Erick Stakelbeck sits down with New York Times bestselling author Eric Metaxas and take a deep dive into his 7 Men book which presents seven exquisitely crafted short portraits of widely known—but not well understood—Christian men; each of whom uniquely showcases a commitment to live by certain virtues in the truth of the gospel.
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7 Men - And the Secret of Their Greatness | 7 Men - And the Secret of Their Greatness | June 9, 2021
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- - TONIGHT ON PRAISE, FROM NEW YORK, NUMBER ONE
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- NEW YORK TIMES BEST-SELLING AUTHOR, RADIO
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- AND TV HOST, ERIC METAXAS.
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- - AND NOW ERICK STAKELBECK.
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- - ERICK METAXAS: WELCOME TO A TBN PRAISE SPECIAL FROM
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- NEW YORK CITY.
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- I'M ERICK STAKELBECK, AND WE ARE JOINED TODAY BY
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- THE ONE AND ONLY ERIC METAXAS TO TALK ABOUT HIS
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- BEST-SELLING BOOK, 7 MEN AND THE SECRET OF
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- HIS THEIR GREATNESS.
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- IT IS THE TBN BOOK OFFER FOR THIS MONTH.
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- ERIC, GREAT TO HAVE YOU WITH US.
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- - GREAT TO BE HERE, MY FRIEND.
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- - THIS BOOK I CAN'T THINK, ERIC, OF A MORE
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- TIMELY BOOK FOR THE TIMES WE ARE LIVING IN
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- RIGHT NOW.
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- - YEAH.
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- - SUCH A LACK OF LEADERSHIP.
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- - YES.
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- - IT WOULD SEEM AND ROLE MODELS.
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- WHY DID YOU WRITE THIS BOOK?
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- - WE REALLY NEED ROLE MODELS LIKE THESE MEN.
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- THESE ARE GODLY HEROES ALL IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
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- WHAT IS A BIBLICAL IDEA OF A MANLY MAN?
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- WHAT'S GOD'S IDEA OF A MAN?
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- WE NEED MODELS.
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- WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT ALL DAY LONG AND THAT'S NOT
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- BAD, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO SEE THOSE LIVES TO SEE
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- THE BIOGRAPHIES AND TO HEAR THE STORIES.
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- GOD'S IDEA OF GREATNESS IS THE OPPOSITE OF THE
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- WORLD'S IDEA OF GREATNESS, OKAY.
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- SELF SACRIFICE, TO BE A SERVANT TO ALL, TO WASH
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- THE FEET OF THE DISCIPLES, TO LAY DOWN MY
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- LIFE FOR OTHERS, THAT'S THE AGAPE LOVE OF GOD,
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- AND WHEN THAT IS SEEN IN THE LIFE OF A MAN, YOU
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- SAY THAT IS A LEADER.
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- SOMEBODY WHO SAYS THAT'S ALL ABOUT ME, THAT IS
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- A MISLEADER.
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- A LEADER LAYS DOWN HIS LIFE.
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- SO EVERY SINGLE STORY OF GREATNESS IN THIS BOOK IS
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- ABOUT SOMEBODY SACRIFICING SOMETHING
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- SIGNIFICANT FOR THE SAKE OF OTHERS AND THAT'S WHY
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- THESE MEN ARE IN THIS BOOK.
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- - THAT'S THE COMMON THREAD, ERIC.
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- THEY'RE FROM ALL DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS.
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- GEORGE WASHINGTON, WILLIAM WILBERFORCE,
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- JACKIE ROBINSON, BUT THE COMMON THREAD NOT ONLY
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- GOD OF COURSE, BUT SELF SACRIFICE.
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- - YEAH.
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- - AT GREAT RISK NOT ONLY TO THEIR CAREER, THEIR
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- LIVELIHOOD BUT TO THEIR LIVES.
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- - EVERY CASE YOU SEE SOMETHING DIFFERENT, AND
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- YET THE THREAD IS THE SAME.
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- WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO LIVE FOR OTHERS?
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- WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT?
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- WHY DOES IT MAKE SOMEBODY GREAT?
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- WHEN YOU ACTUALLY SEE A LIFE TOLD IN A STORY,
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- YOU GET IT.
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- IT'S KIND OF LIKE KNOWING SOMEBODY.
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- WHEN YOU KNOW SOMEBODY YOU SEE THEM LIVE
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- THEIR LIVES.
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- YOU KNOW JESUS, HE DIDN'T JUST COME DOWN, HAND OUT
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- SOME BROCHURES AND SPLIT BACK TO THE FATHER.
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- YOU KNOW WHAT SAYING?
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- HE LIVED AMONG US.
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- WHY?
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- BECAUSE HE WANTED SPECIALLY THE DISCIPLES
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- TO SEE HIS LIFE.
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- WHEN YOU SEE A LIFE, YOU PICK THINGS UP THAT YOU
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- CAN'T IF SOMEBODY JUST GIVES YOU PRINCIPLES.
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- YOU SEE A HUMAN BEING INTERACTING
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- WITH SURROUNDINGS.
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- THAT'S WHAT YOU GET WHEN YOU READ THE STORY
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- OF A LIFE.
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- THAT'S WHAT I DO IN MY BIOGRAPHIES AND THAT'S
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- WHAT I DO IN THIS BOOK.
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- - LET'S START WITH PERHAPS THE GREATEST
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- AMERICAN WHOEVER LIVED.
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- - YEAH.
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- - GEORGE WASHINGTON.
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- - YEAH.
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- - NOW, WHEN I THINK OF SACRIFICE, HE'S SOMEONE
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- WHO TODAY WOULD BE SEEN MAYBE AS AN ELITE.
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- HIS UPBRINGING FINANCIALLY, A WEALTHY
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- FAMILY, HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LITERALLY
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- BE KING AND HE TURNED IT ALL DOWN FOR A GREATER
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- REASON, FOR A GREATER CAUSE.
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- TELL US A BIT ABOUT WHAT MADE GEORGE WASHINGTON
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- SO GREAT.
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- - I GUESS WE'RE TALKING 1783.
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- SO THE WAR HAS BEEN GOING ON.
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- PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES.
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- PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR FARMS, THEIR FAMILIES,
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- THEIR REPUTATIONS.
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- I MEAN, WHAT THEY SACRIFICED IS STAGGERING,
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- AND CONGRESS COULD NOT PAY THE OFFICERS, OKAY.
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- IT'S A LONG STORY.
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- YOU GET IT IN THE BOOK, BUT THEY COULDN'T PAY
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- THE OFFICERS.
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- AND THIS WENT ON FOR SO LONG, THESE OFFICERS HAD
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- GIVEN UP EVERYTHING, BUT THEY WERE GETTING ANGRY
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- AND THEY WERE THINKING, YOU KNOW WHAT?
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- WE GAVE OUR LIVES FOR THIS NEW COUNTRY, AND THE
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- CONGRESS CAN'T EVEN PAY US.
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- HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
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- WE'RE GOING TO MILITARY COUP.
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- WE'RE GOING TO STICK IT TO CONGRESS AND WHAT
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- WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO SAY WE'RE
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- NOT GOING TO PROTECT YOU ANYMORE.
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- WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING.
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- WE'RE IN IT FOR US.
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- WE'RE GOING TO MAKE GEORGE WASHINGTON WHO
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- DESERVES IT THE KING AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME
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- KIND OF A LIMITED MONARCHY OR WHATEVER IT IS.
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- WASHINGTON WAS OFFENDED.
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- HE SAID WE HAVE FOUGHT IN THE CAUSE OF LIBERTY, AND
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- I WILL NOT AT THIS POINT ALLOW MYSELF OR ANY ONE
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- OF US TO SULLY OUR REPUTATIONS BY STOOPING
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- TO THIS.
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- AND WHEN GEORGE THE THIRD, THE KING OF
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- ENGLAND, FOUND OUT THAT GEORGE WASHINGTON HAD
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- GIVEN UP UNLIMITED POWER, GEORGE THE THIRD
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- WAS ASTONISHED.
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- HE SAID IF THAT IS TRUE, THIS IS ONE OF THE
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- GREATEST MEN WHO HAS EVER LIVED.
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- HIS ENEMY IN ENGLAND SAID THAT.
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- WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND PEOPLE HAVE LAID DOWN
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- THEIR LIVES, THEIR FORTUNES, THEIR SACRED
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- HONOR TO USE HIS WORDS, THEY ALL DID THIS BECAUSE
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- THEY BELIEVED IN WHAT WAS RIGHT AND TRUE.
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- WE NEED TO KNOW THOSE STORIES SO THAT WE ARE
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- INSPIRED, WHEN THE CHIPS ARE DOWN WE SAY I WILL DO
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- THE RIGHT THING.
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- I'M NOT GOING TO DO WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE WOULD DO.
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- I'M GOING TO DO WHAT VERY FEW PEOPLE WOULD DO.
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- I'M GOING TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
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- - YEAH, FOLKS, THESE ARE 7 MEN WHO TRULY WALKED
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- THE WALK, WALKED THE WALK OF FAITH, AND IT IS OUR
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- OFFER THIS MONTH.
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- YOU CAN HAVE THE STORIES OF 7 OF THE GREATEST MEN
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- WHO EVER LIVED BY ONE OF THE GREATEST AUTHORS OF
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- BIOGRAPHIES TODAY, THE ONE AND ONLY ERIC METAXAS
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- RIGHT HERE ON TBN.
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- - FRIENDS, WHEN YOUR FAITHFUL PARTNERSHIP, TBN
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- NOW REACHES OVER 175 NATIONS ACROSS THE EARTH
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- INTRODUCING PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD TO OUR
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- SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST.
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- AND THROUGH HIM TO OUR LOVING HEAVENLY FATHER.
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- I HAVE AN UNFORGETTABLE CHILDHOOD MEMORY OF MY
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- LATE FATHER SITTING NEXT TO ME AS I GAVE MY HEART
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- TO JESUS AND WAS FOREVER CHANGED.
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- OUR HEAVENLY FATHER VERY MUCH WANTS A PERSONAL
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- RELATIONSHIP WITH EACH OF US.
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- THAT'S WHY FOR YOUR GIFT OF SUPPORT IN ANY AMOUNT,
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- WE ARE EXCITED TO OFFER YOU MICHAEL W.
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- SMITH'S HEARTWARMING BOOK THE WAY OF THE FATHER,
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- HELPING READERS TAP INTO THE UNCONDITIONAL LOVE OF
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- THEIR HEAVENLY FATHER.
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- - HE HAD THIS PRESENCE ABOUT HIM.
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- MAYBE THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING I'VE LEARNED FROM
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- MY DAD IS WHEN I'M WITH MY KIDS, I'M
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- JUST PRESENT.
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- - AND FOR YOUR GIFT OF SUPPORT OF $35 OR MORE,
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- WE'LL ENCLOSE MICHAEL W.
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- SMITH'S CD STILL VOLUME ONE.
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- ENCOURAGING WORDS OVER CALM INTROSPECTIVE MUSIC.
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- WE'LL ALSO SEND YOU ERIC METAXAS' ENGAGING BOOK 7
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- MEN AND THE SECRETS OF THEIR GREATNESS,
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- PROFILING 7 INCREDIBLE CHRISTIAN MEN WHO TRULY
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- LIVED THEIR FAITH.
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- - SO EVERY SINGLE STORY OF GREATNESS IN THIS BOOK
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- IS ABOUT SOMEBODY SACRIFICING SOMETHING
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- SIGNIFICANT FOR THE SAKE OF OTHERS.
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- - FRIENDS, THANK YOU FOR BEING THE HERO IN THE TBN
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- STORY ENABLING US TO HELP MILLIONS AROUND THE WORLD
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- DISCOVER A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THEIR
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- HEAVENLY FATHER.
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- PLEASE CALL NOW AND MAKE YOUR MOST GENEROUS GIFT.
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- TBN OPERATORS ARE STANDING BY.
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- GOD BLESS YOU.
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- - FOLKS, IF YOU'RE JUST TUNING IN, THIS IS OUR
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- OFFER FOR THE MONTH HERE AT TBN.
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- ERIC METAXAS' BLOCKBUSTER, 7 MEN AND THE
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- SECRET OF THEIR GREATNESS.
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- GREAT SEGUE, THE SECOND MAN IN HERE ERIC AGAIN IN
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- CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER, WILLIAM WILBERFORCE.
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- - YES.
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- HE WAS A VERY POPULAR POLITICIAN,
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- VERY SUCCESSFUL.
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- - A FAMOUS GUY.
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- - POWERFUL POLITICIAN.
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- AT AGE 26, BUT HE GAVE HIS WHOLE LIFE OVER TO
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- ENDING THE SLAVE TRADE AND THEN TO
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- ENDING SLAVERY.
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- BUT HE ALSO GAVE HIS LIFE OVER TO HELPING PEOPLE IN
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- ALL THESE OTHER AREAS.
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- IF YOU DON'T HAVE A BIBLICAL WORLD VIEW IN A
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- CULTURE, THE WHOLE CULTURE IS GOING TO LOOK
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- AT HUMAN BEINGS AS DISPOSABLE.
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- WHAT HAPPENS IF THANK YOU GET A BIBLICAL VIEW OF
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- HUMAN BEINGS?
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- SUDDENLY YOU'RE GOING TO END THE SLAVE TRADE.
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- YOU'RE GOING TO END TREATING CHILDREN LIKE
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- ANIMALS AND HAVING THEM WORK 16 HOURS A DAY.
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- YOU'RE GOING TO DO WHAT YOU CAN TO HELP INDIGENT
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- PEOPLE AND WOMEN STRUGGLING AND ALL THESE
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- SOCIAL ILLS THAT THEY WERE DOING NOTHING,
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- SUDDENLY THERE WAS LIKE AN AWAKENING IN GREAT
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- BRITAIN, AND THEY SAID IF WE'RE CHRISTIANS, WE
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- NEED TO ABOLISH THE SLAVE TRADE AND WE NEED TO HELP
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- OUR FELLOW MAN.
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- WE TAKE THAT FOR GRANTED TODAY LARGELY BECAUSE OF
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- WILLIAM WILBERFORCE, HE WAS SO SUCCESSFUL IN
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- BRINGING THESE IDEAS, THESE CHRISTIAN IDEAS
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- INTO MAINSTREAM CULTURE THAT IT'S KIND OF MADE
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- ITS WAY THROUGHOUT THE WEST.
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- AND WE KIND OF ALL BELIEVE THESE THINGS NOW.
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- WE SHOULD CARE ABOUT THE POOR.
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- YEAH SHALL WHERE DID YOU GET THAT? FROM THE
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- BIBLE THANKS TO WILBERFORCE BRINGING IT INTO
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- THE MAINSTREAM OF THE CULTURE.
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- - OKAY.
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- WE'RE TAKING IT FROM WILLIAM WILBERFORCE
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- TO ERIC LITTLE.
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- - THE REASON I PUT IN THE STORY OF ERIC LITTLE
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- IS WHEN I WAS YOUNGER, THE MOVIE CHARIOTS OF
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- FIRE CAME OUT, AND IT WAS ONE OF THE GREATEST FILMS
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- EVER MADE, AND IT WAS ABOUT THE STORY OF
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- ERIC LITTLE.
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- NOBODY EVER HEARD OF HIM.
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- BUT HE WAS A MAN WHO BECAUSE OF HIS FAITH, HE
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- WAS A ROCK SOLID BELIEVER, HE DID ONE OF
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- THE MOST BRAVE HISTORIC THINGS EVER DONE IN OUR
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- TIME, AND THE BRIEF STORY WHICH IS TOLD IN THE
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- MOVIE CHARIOTS OF FIRE, BUT I TELL THE OTHER SIDE
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- OF THE STORY IN THIS BOOK, BUT THE BRIEF STORY
- 00:09:03.265 --> 00:09:07.903
- IS THAT HE WAS RAISED BY A FAMILY OF REALLY STRICT
- 00:09:07.903 --> 00:09:10.806
- SCOTTISH MISSIONARIES.
- 00:09:10.806 --> 00:09:12.508
- AND FOR THEM, THIS IS NOT SO TRUE TODAY, BUT FOR
- 00:09:12.508 --> 00:09:14.644
- THEM THE SABBATH WAS SACRED.
- 00:09:14.644 --> 00:09:17.913
- SO THIS GUY WAS SUCH AN AMAZING RUNNER THAT HE
- 00:09:17.913 --> 00:09:22.585
- WENT TO THE OLYMPICS, I BELIEVE IT WAS 1924
- 00:09:22.585 --> 00:09:25.121
- IN PARIS.
- 00:09:25.121 --> 00:09:26.055
- - PARIS.
- 00:09:26.055 --> 00:09:27.657
- - AND THE HEAT FOR HIS RACE WAS ON A SUNDAY.
- 00:09:27.657 --> 00:09:32.161
- AND HE SAID STRAIGHT UP, GAME OVER.
- 00:09:32.161 --> 00:09:36.832
- I CAN'T RUN ON A SUNDAY.
- 00:09:36.832 --> 00:09:38.134
- I CANNOT DO THAT.
- 00:09:38.134 --> 00:09:40.002
- GOD HONORED THAT MAN IN WHAT ULTIMATELY HAPPENED
- 00:09:40.002 --> 00:09:44.373
- IN THE WAY THAT'S TRULY AMAZING AND MAKES SUCH A
- 00:09:44.373 --> 00:09:48.277
- GREAT MOVIE.
- 00:09:48.277 --> 00:09:49.512
- WHAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW IS THE SECOND PART
- 00:09:49.512 --> 00:09:52.148
- OF HIS LIFE.
- 00:09:52.148 --> 00:09:53.249
- AFTER THE WINS THE OLYMPIC GOLD, AFTER HE'S
- 00:09:53.249 --> 00:09:55.785
- GOING ALL AROUND THE WORLD TALKING ABOUT JESUS
- 00:09:55.785 --> 00:09:58.888
- BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE FLOCKING TO HEAR THIS
- 00:09:58.888 --> 00:10:00.923
- HERO, THIS, YOU KNOW, RUNNING CHAMPION.
- 00:10:00.923 --> 00:10:04.226
- HE MADE THE COUNTRY PROUD, WHATEVER.
- 00:10:04.226 --> 00:10:05.695
- THEY GO TO HEAR HIM TALK ABOUT JESUS.
- 00:10:05.695 --> 00:10:07.163
- WELL, AFTER THIS HE DECIDES HE'S GOING TO GO
- 00:10:07.163 --> 00:10:08.531
- ONTO THE MISSION FIELD, AND HE GOES TO CHINA, AND
- 00:10:08.531 --> 00:10:12.001
- I WON'T TELL THE REST OF THE STORY BUT THAT'S THE
- 00:10:12.001 --> 00:10:14.937
- STORY THAT IF YOU'VE SEEN CHARIOTS OF FIRE YOU WANT
- 00:10:14.937 --> 00:10:17.139
- TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM AFTER, THAT IS
- 00:10:17.139 --> 00:10:19.208
- ANOTHER TRULY AMAZING STORY.
- 00:10:19.208 --> 00:10:23.145
- - IT IS.
- 00:10:23.145 --> 00:10:24.113
- - SO HE IS ONE OF THE HEROES OF THE 20TH
- 00:10:24.113 --> 00:10:25.247
- CENTURY, A SPORTS FIGURE, AN AMAZING SPORTS FIGURE.
- 00:10:25.247 --> 00:10:28.184
- PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW HIS STORY.
- 00:10:28.184 --> 00:10:30.086
- I MEAN, JUST ONE OF THE MOST AMAZING CHRISTIAN
- 00:10:30.086 --> 00:10:32.788
- ATHLETES IN THE WORLD.
- 00:10:32.788 --> 00:10:34.390
- - 7 MEN, THIS MONTH'S BOOK OFFER HERE AT TBN.
- 00:10:34.390 --> 00:10:36.992
- ERIC, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO SAY ABOUT OUR
- 00:10:36.992 --> 00:10:40.996
- NEXT GREAT MAN OR WHERE TO BEGIN.
- 00:10:40.996 --> 00:10:42.965
- DIETRICH BONHOEFFER.
- 00:10:42.965 --> 00:10:45.568
- - HE WAS I THINK INESCAPABLY ONE OF THE
- 00:10:45.568 --> 00:10:48.704
- GREATEST FIGURES IN HISTORY.
- 00:10:48.704 --> 00:10:51.340
- THE WORLD WAS MESSED UP IN 1930. LET'S NOT
- 00:10:51.340 --> 00:10:53.042
- KID OURSELVES AND BONHOEFFER CAME TO NEW YORK
- 00:10:53.042 --> 00:10:55.311
- AND PART OF WHAT HE SAW HERE BECAUSE THE BLACKS
- 00:10:55.311 --> 00:10:59.415
- IN HARLEM WERE, HE SAW A FAITH, A CHRISTIAN FAITH
- 00:10:59.415 --> 00:11:02.918
- AMONG THE BLACK CHURCHES IN HARLEM THAT HE DID NOT
- 00:11:02.918 --> 00:11:06.922
- SEE IN THE WHITE CHURCHES BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT
- 00:11:06.922 --> 00:11:10.626
- STRANGERS TO SUFFERING.
- 00:11:10.626 --> 00:11:12.161
- THEY'RE NOT PLAYING CHURCH.
- 00:11:12.161 --> 00:11:13.829
- IF THEY'RE IN CHURCH, THEY WANT TO KNOW IS
- 00:11:13.829 --> 00:11:15.498
- THIS REAL?
- 00:11:15.498 --> 00:11:16.799
- AND THEIR FAITH WAS SO REAL THAT HE WAS
- 00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:19.101
- KIND OF SHOCKED.
- 00:11:19.101 --> 00:11:20.202
- SO HE STARTED GOING TO A BLACK CHURCH UP
- 00:11:20.202 --> 00:11:22.371
- THE ROAD.
- 00:11:22.371 --> 00:11:23.773
- THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THIS WAS A GUY WHO
- 00:11:23.773 --> 00:11:25.841
- BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM IN THE BLACK
- 00:11:25.841 --> 00:11:29.245
- CHURCH IN NEW YORK WHERE WE ARE, WHEN HE GOES BACK
- 00:11:29.245 --> 00:11:31.247
- TO GERMANY, HE SEES A STRANGE PARALLEL.
- 00:11:31.247 --> 00:11:36.719
- HE SEES THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING THE OTHER WAY AS
- 00:11:36.719 --> 00:11:39.722
- THE JEWS ARE BEING PERSECUTED SO HE SEES THE
- 00:11:39.722 --> 00:11:42.091
- BLACKS PERSECUTED IN AMERICA.
- 00:11:42.091 --> 00:11:44.093
- HE TRAVELED TO THE SOUTH.
- 00:11:44.093 --> 00:11:45.561
- I MEAN, IT WASN'T THE CASE IN NEW YORK LIKE IT
- 00:11:45.561 --> 00:11:46.962
- WAS IN THE SOUTH, BUT HE SAID THIS IS INTERESTING.
- 00:11:46.962 --> 00:11:50.232
- NOW I'M IN GERMANY AND SEEING SOMETHING WEIRDLY
- 00:11:50.232 --> 00:11:52.067
- SIMILAR IN MY OWN COUNTRY.
- 00:11:52.067 --> 00:11:54.136
- AND SO HE SLOWLY BUT SURELY COMES TO THE PLACE
- 00:11:54.136 --> 00:11:57.606
- WHERE HE SAYS BECAUSE OF MY FAITH, I MUST SPEAK UP
- 00:11:57.606 --> 00:12:01.343
- FOR THE JEWS.
- 00:12:01.343 --> 00:12:03.746
- AND SO HE WAS A VOICE AGAINST THE NAZIS AT A
- 00:12:03.746 --> 00:12:07.316
- TIME WHEN MOST PEOPLE IN THE CHURCH CHOSE TO KEEP
- 00:12:07.316 --> 00:12:10.319
- THEIR MOUTH SHUT AND BONHOEFFER WAS TRYING TO
- 00:12:10.319 --> 00:12:12.688
- WAKE THEM UP.
- 00:12:12.688 --> 00:12:13.823
- HE WAS TRYING TO SAY TO THE CHURCH YOU CHURCH, IF
- 00:12:13.823 --> 00:12:15.457
- YOU DO NOT STAND AGAINST THIS EVIL THEN YOU'RE
- 00:12:15.457 --> 00:12:19.028
- COMPLICITY IN IT, OKAY.
- 00:12:19.028 --> 00:12:20.796
- SO IN THE END HIS FAITH LEADS HIM TO A VERY
- 00:12:20.796 --> 00:12:23.599
- CONTROVERSIAL PLACE.
- 00:12:23.599 --> 00:12:24.667
- HE GETS INVOLVED IN THE PLOT TO KILL HITLER.
- 00:12:24.667 --> 00:12:27.403
- AND A LOT OF PEOPLE CHRISTIANS SAY HOW IS IT
- 00:12:27.403 --> 00:12:29.872
- POSSIBLE FOR A MAN OF GOD TO YOU KNOW -AND THAT'S
- 00:12:29.872 --> 00:12:32.708
- PART OF WHY I WANTED TO TELL THE STORY OF
- 00:12:32.708 --> 00:12:34.176
- BONHOEFFER, SO THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND HE WAS LOOKING
- 00:12:34.176 --> 00:12:38.747
- TO AN AUDIENCE OF ONE.
- 00:12:38.747 --> 00:12:39.882
- HE WAS SAYING I HAVE TO ANSWER TO GOD.
- 00:12:39.882 --> 00:12:42.251
- PEOPLE MAY MISUNDERSTAND ME, BUT I'M GOING TO TRY
- 00:12:42.251 --> 00:12:44.053
- TO DO WHAT I BELIEVE GOD WANTS ME TO DO.
- 00:12:44.053 --> 00:12:46.021
- WHEN YOU ENCOUNTER A LIFE LIKE THAT, YOU CAN'T
- 00:12:46.021 --> 00:12:48.691
- HELP BUT WANT TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE LIKE THEM.
- 00:12:48.691 --> 00:12:51.427
- - 7 MEN AND THE SECRET OF THEIR GREATNESS.
- 00:12:51.427 --> 00:12:54.763
- NOW THIS IS OUR OFFER FOR THE MONTH HERE AT TBN.
- 00:12:54.763 --> 00:12:57.766
- YOU CAN LEARN ABOUT THE 7 ICONS, THESE LEGENDS,
- 00:12:57.766 --> 00:13:01.003
- THESE GREAT GODLY MEN WHO HAVE HAD A PROFOUND
- 00:13:01.003 --> 00:13:03.873
- IMPACT, NOT ONLY ON BOTH OF OUR LIVES, I WOULD SAY
- 00:13:03.873 --> 00:13:06.575
- ERIC, BUT ON THIS NATION, ON BRITAIN, ON THE WORLD.
- 00:13:06.575 --> 00:13:08.577
- - YEAH.
- 00:13:08.577 --> 00:13:10.246
- - OKAY ERIC, WE ARE LEAVING DIETRICH BONHOEFFER.
- 00:13:10.246 --> 00:13:13.182
- WE ARE MOVING BACK INTO THE WORLD OF SPORTS,
- 00:13:13.182 --> 00:13:15.317
- WHICH I LOVE. THIS MAY HAVE BEEN MY FAVORITE
- 00:13:15.317 --> 00:13:19.955
- OF THE 7 GREAT MEN. JACKIE ROBINSON.
- 00:13:19.955 --> 00:13:24.059
- I KNEW THE SURFACE STORY, OBVIOUSLY, HE BROKE THE
- 00:13:24.059 --> 00:13:26.061
- COLOR BARRIER IN MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL BUT HIS
- 00:13:26.061 --> 00:13:28.831
- FAITH HONESTLY, ERIC, I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT IT.
- 00:13:28.831 --> 00:13:32.001
- THIS WAS A MIGHTY MAN OF GOD.
- 00:13:32.001 --> 00:13:34.470
- - YEAH, NOBODY KNOWS THIS.
- 00:13:34.470 --> 00:13:35.971
- THIS IS WHAT KILLS ME!
- 00:13:35.971 --> 00:13:37.239
- THIS IS WHY I WRITE HALF OF WHAT I WRITE AND
- 00:13:37.239 --> 00:13:38.707
- IT'S WHY I WROTE THIS BOOK AND 7 WOMEN.
- 00:13:38.707 --> 00:13:40.409
- I SAID PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THAT THE CIVIL
- 00:13:40.409 --> 00:13:44.146
- RIGHTS ICON, JACKIE ROBINSON, OKAY, THE BLACK
- 00:13:44.146 --> 00:13:48.684
- MAN WHO BROKE THE COLOR BARRIER, TREMENDOUS
- 00:13:48.684 --> 00:13:51.987
- SACRIFICE, HOW DID HE DO IT? JESUS.
- 00:13:51.987 --> 00:13:56.091
- NOBODY KNOWS. NOBODY KNOWS.
- 00:13:56.091 --> 00:13:58.027
- - I HAD NO IDEA.
- 00:13:58.027 --> 00:13:59.128
- - AND I'VE GOT TELL YOU, WHEN I DISCOVERED THAT, I
- 00:13:59.128 --> 00:14:01.196
- THOUGHT HOW DO I NOT KNOW THIS, THAT THIS GUY WAS A
- 00:14:01.196 --> 00:14:04.066
- SAWED OFF CHRISTIAN.
- 00:14:04.066 --> 00:14:06.502
- HE WAS NOT JUST SOMEBODY WHO FELT LIKE WELL,
- 00:14:06.502 --> 00:14:09.672
- THIS IS THE RIGHT THING, WHATEVER.
- 00:14:09.672 --> 00:14:10.973
- HE WAS A CHRISTIAN.
- 00:14:10.973 --> 00:14:12.274
- JACKIE ROBINSON, BECAUSE OF HIS FAITH, WAS ABLE TO
- 00:14:12.274 --> 00:14:16.178
- WITHSTAND THE RACIST TAUNTING AND WHATEVER.
- 00:14:16.178 --> 00:14:19.848
- BUT THE MOST AMAZING PART OF THE STORY, THIS IS THE
- 00:14:19.848 --> 00:14:22.051
- CRAZY PART OF THE STORY, IS THAT WHEN BRANCH RICKEY,
- 00:14:22.051 --> 00:14:28.290
- OKAY, WHO WAS THE GENERAL MANAGER OF THE
- 00:14:28.290 --> 00:14:30.192
- DODGERS IN BROOKLYN, ACROSS THE RIVER, HE WAS
- 00:14:30.192 --> 00:14:33.495
- A SERIOUS CHRISTIAN.
- 00:14:33.495 --> 00:14:35.164
- PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW THIS.
- 00:14:35.164 --> 00:14:36.198
- - I HAD NO IDEA ABOUT THAT EITHER.
- 00:14:36.198 --> 00:14:37.666
- - BRANCH RICKEY WAS A SERIOUS CHRISTIAN, AND HE
- 00:14:37.666 --> 00:14:39.768
- KNEW THAT MORALLY IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO TO
- 00:14:39.768 --> 00:14:43.105
- ABOLISH THIS SEGREGATION IN THE GREAT AMERICAN
- 00:14:43.105 --> 00:14:46.742
- SPORT, BUT HE ALSO KNEW THAT I NEED TO PICK
- 00:14:46.742 --> 00:14:51.146
- SOMEONE WHO'S NOT JUST A 320 HITTER
- 00:14:51.146 --> 00:14:54.183
- WHO CAN STEAL BASES.
- 00:14:54.183 --> 00:14:55.951
- I NEED TO PICK SOMEBODY WHO IS GOING TO
- 00:14:55.951 --> 00:14:59.922
- UNDERSTAND THAT IF I DO NOT TURN THE OTHER CHEEK
- 00:14:59.922 --> 00:15:03.759
- WHEN THEY COME AT ME, IT'S OVER.
- 00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:06.295
- THE PRESS WILL ATTACK ME, WHATEVER.
- 00:15:06.295 --> 00:15:08.030
- I NEED TO BE MORE NOBLE THAN MY ENEMIES.
- 00:15:08.030 --> 00:15:12.301
- OKAY, SO HE LOOKS INTO THE LIFE OF JACKIE ROBINSON.
- 00:15:12.301 --> 00:15:16.171
- HE KNOWS HE'S A GREAT BALL PLAYER, OKAY, BUT
- 00:15:16.171 --> 00:15:18.707
- THEN HE FINDS OUT THAT HE'S SERIOUS ABOUT HIS
- 00:15:18.707 --> 00:15:21.043
- FAITH. SO HE INVITES HIM TO BROOKLYN AND HAS A
- 00:15:21.043 --> 00:15:24.780
- CONVERSATION WITH HIM, AND HE OPENS UP A BOOK.
- 00:15:24.780 --> 00:15:26.548
- THIS IS ALL OBVIOUSLY IN THE CHAPTER, BUT HE OPENS
- 00:15:26.548 --> 00:15:28.617
- A BOOK CALLED "THE LIFE OF JESUS" BY GEOVANNI
- 00:15:28.617 --> 00:15:31.587
- PAPINI, AND HE TURNS RIGHT TO THE PAGE WHERE
- 00:15:31.587 --> 00:15:34.423
- IT'S ABOUT TURNING THE OTHER CHEEK.
- 00:15:34.423 --> 00:15:36.859
- HE PUTS IT TO JACKIE ROBINSON, THIS IS ONE OF
- 00:15:36.859 --> 00:15:39.194
- THE GREATEST MOMENTS IN 20TH CENTURY HISTORY, IN
- 00:15:39.194 --> 00:15:41.897
- CIVIL RIGHTS HISTORY FOR SURE, AND HE SAYS TO HIM
- 00:15:41.897 --> 00:15:44.800
- WILL YOU DO-- I KNOW YOU'RE A CHRISTIAN, WILL
- 00:15:44.800 --> 00:15:47.836
- YOU DO WHAT JESUS SAYS?
- 00:15:47.836 --> 00:15:49.471
- WILL YOU TURN THE OTHER CHEEK?
- 00:15:49.471 --> 00:15:50.806
- THEY'RE GONNA COME AT YOU WITH SPIKES, THEY'RE
- 00:15:50.806 --> 00:15:52.341
- GONNA CALL YOU THE N-WORD, THEY'RE GONNA DO
- 00:15:52.341 --> 00:15:53.742
- EVERY LOW THING YOU CAN IMAGINE.
- 00:15:53.742 --> 00:15:56.545
- WILL YOU BE ABLE TO DO WHAT JESUS SAYS BECAUSE
- 00:15:56.545 --> 00:16:00.282
- IF YOU DON'T, THIS THINGS GONNA BLOW UP AND IT WILL
- 00:16:00.282 --> 00:16:03.185
- BE 20 YEARS BEFORE WE GET A SECOND CRACK AT IT.
- 00:16:03.185 --> 00:16:05.888
- WILL YOU DO IT?
- 00:16:05.888 --> 00:16:06.755
- - THE PRESSURE.
- 00:16:06.755 --> 00:16:07.923
- - OKAY? SO HE SAID HE WOULD. HE AGREED.
- 00:16:07.923 --> 00:16:11.160
- AND HE AND HIS WIFE, RACHEL, THEY WOULD PRAY
- 00:16:11.160 --> 00:16:14.897
- BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE REALLY BEING ATTACKED
- 00:16:14.897 --> 00:16:17.132
- LIKE THAT, IF YOU DON'T HAVE GOD TO GO TO,
- 00:16:17.132 --> 00:16:19.501
- WHERE DO YOU GO?
- 00:16:19.501 --> 00:16:20.936
- YOU'RE GONNA LASH OUT.
- 00:16:20.936 --> 00:16:21.970
- A NORMAL PERSON LASHES OUT.
- 00:16:21.970 --> 00:16:23.872
- THAT'S WHAT A NORMAL PERSON IF YOU'RE CALLING
- 00:16:23.872 --> 00:16:25.507
- ME NAMES AND WHATEVER.
- 00:16:25.507 --> 00:16:26.875
- HE FOUND THE INNER STRENGTH FOR TWO PLUS
- 00:16:26.875 --> 00:16:30.012
- YEARS TO KEEP IT IN AND TO SAY I'M GIVING THIS
- 00:16:30.012 --> 00:16:33.482
- TO GOD, I'M NOT GONNA LASH OUT.
- 00:16:33.482 --> 00:16:35.084
- BY THE WAY, WHY AM I TAKING THIS GUFF?
- 00:16:35.084 --> 00:16:37.920
- FOR ALL THOSE WHO ARE COMING AFTER ME.
- 00:16:37.920 --> 00:16:42.024
- SO EVERY BLACK AMERICAN OWES SOMETHING FOR
- 00:16:42.024 --> 00:16:45.761
- THE SACRIFICE OF JACKIE ROBINSON.
- 00:16:45.761 --> 00:16:47.830
- JACKIE ROBINSON COULD HAVE DONE WHAT HE FELT
- 00:16:47.830 --> 00:16:50.365
- LIKE DOING. HE DIDN'T DO IT.
- 00:16:50.365 --> 00:16:52.167
- HE SAID I'M GONNA HONOR MY COMMITMENT TO BRANCH
- 00:16:52.167 --> 00:16:55.370
- RICKEY, MY COMMITMENT TO THE SPORT, MY COMMITMENT
- 00:16:55.370 --> 00:16:58.340
- TO ALL THOSE WHO ARE GONNA FOLLOW IN MY FOOTSTEPS.
- 00:16:58.340 --> 00:17:00.776
- I AM NOT GONNA LASH OUT.
- 00:17:00.776 --> 00:17:02.344
- I'M GONNA GIVE TO THE GREATER GOOD.
- 00:17:02.344 --> 00:17:03.912
- I'M GONNA SACRIFICE MYSELF.
- 00:17:03.912 --> 00:17:06.115
- AND IT'S ONE OF THESE STORIES THAT IT'S HARD
- 00:17:06.115 --> 00:17:08.550
- FOR US TO IMAGINE IN A DAY LIKE TODAY WHEN WE'RE
- 00:17:08.550 --> 00:17:10.686
- ALL SAID, YOU NEED TO BE IN PEOPLE'S FACES AND
- 00:17:10.686 --> 00:17:13.522
- WHATEVER. HE WAS SUCH A NOBLE CHARACTER, BUT
- 00:17:13.522 --> 00:17:17.159
- PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IT STRAIGHT UP CAME
- 00:17:17.159 --> 00:17:18.794
- FROM HIS FAITH IN JESUS.
- 00:17:18.794 --> 00:17:20.129
- HE WAS PICKED BECAUSE OF HIS FAITH IN JESUS.
- 00:17:20.129 --> 00:17:21.864
- KIND OF AMAZING THAT WE DON'T KNOW THIS,
- 00:17:21.864 --> 00:17:25.400
- THAT HIS INNER STRENGTH,
- 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:26.768
- HIS SECRET STRENGTH CAME FROM GOD.
- 00:17:26.768 --> 00:17:29.738
- NOW WHY DON'T WE HEAR ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE
- 00:17:29.738 --> 00:17:31.540
- THAT'S THE CORE OF THE STRENGTH OF THE
- 00:17:31.540 --> 00:17:33.208
- CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT.
- 00:17:33.208 --> 00:17:34.877
- HE CAME OUT OF THE CHURCHES.
- 00:17:34.877 --> 00:17:36.378
- SO JACKIE ROBINSON, WHEN I REALLY DISCOVERED THAT,
- 00:17:36.378 --> 00:17:39.281
- I WAS JUST ASTONISHED AND I SAID PEOPLE NEED TO
- 00:17:39.281 --> 00:17:42.050
- KNOW THAT THIS GREAT MAN WAS GREAT BECAUSE OF WHAT
- 00:17:42.050 --> 00:17:45.721
- HE DID. AND YOU TALK ABOUT SACRIFICE,
- 00:17:45.721 --> 00:17:47.156
- IT WAS A SACRIFICE FOR ALL THOSE WHO
- 00:17:47.156 --> 00:17:49.324
- WEREN'T EVEN BORN YET.
- 00:17:49.324 --> 00:17:51.426
- - I'M SO GLAD YOU WROTE ABOUT HIM IN THIS BOOK
- 00:17:51.426 --> 00:17:53.061
- ERIC. IT IS SUCH AN EYE OPENER FOR ME.
- 00:17:53.061 --> 00:17:55.097
- 7 MEN AND THE SECRET OF THEIR GREATNESS.
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- 00:18:12.347 --> 00:18:13.649
- THAT'S WHY FOR YOUR GIFT OF SUPPORT IN ANY AMOUNT,
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- 00:18:21.256 --> 00:18:22.891
- MAYBE THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING I'VE LEARNED
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- FROM MY DAD IS WHEN I'M WITH MY KIDS,
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- I'M JUST PRESENT.
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- THESE ARE GODLY HEROES.
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- - FRIENDS, THANK YOU FOR BEING THE HERO IN THE TBN
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- STORY ENABLING US TO HELP MILLIONS AROUND THE WORLD
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- DISCOVER A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH
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- THEIR HEAVENLY FATHER.
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- PLEASE CALL NOW AND MAKE YOUR MOST GENEROUS GIFT.
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- - WE COME NEXT TO OUR SIXTH OF OUR SEVEN
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- GREAT MEN, POPE JOHN PAUL THE SECOND.
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- I'LL LET YOU TAKE IT FROM THERE.
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- - WELL, I MEAN LISTEN, I'M NOT A CATHOLIC, BUT
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- GREATNESS IS GREATNESS, AND JESUS IS JESUS.
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- THERE'S NO CATHOLIC JESUS, THERE'S NO
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- PROTESTANT JESUS, THERE'S NO PENTECOSTAL JESUS.
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- THERE'S JESUS.
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- AND THIS IS A MAN WHEN YOU KNOW HIS STORY, IT'S
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- KIND OF AMAZING TO THINK THAT HE SUFFERED HORRIBLY
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- UNDER NAZISM AND THEN UNDER COMMUNISM.
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- OKAY, THIS MAN EXPERIENCED IT, AND HE
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- SAW BY THE WAY THAT ATHEIST MARXISM IN POLAND
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- WHERE HE GREW UP IS THE ENEMY OF THE CHRISTIAN
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- FAITH. IN OTHER WORDS, THEY DON'T SAY
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- "LIVE AND LET LIVE, WE'RE COOL," NO.
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- THEY KNOW THAT GOD REPRESENTS A THREAT TO
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- THEIR POLITICAL POWER, SO THEY WANT TO
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- CRUSH THE CHURCHES.
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- - AGGRESSIVELY.
- 00:19:55.450 --> 00:19:56.518
- - AND THEY'RE DOING IT IN CHINA TODAY, THEY'RE
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- DOING IT TO THE UIGHUR MUSLIMS, TO CHRISTIANS,
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- ANYBODY WHO BELIEVES IN GOD OR ANYTHING THAT'S
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- NOT PART OF THE STATE, THEY NEED TO CRUSH IT.
- 00:20:04.426 --> 00:20:08.664
- SO HE EXPERIENCED THIS.
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- SO WHEN HIS TIME CAME AND HE BECAME POPE, HE KNEW
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- I HAVE THE WORLD'S STAGE.
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- I AM ON THE STAGE OF THE WORLD.
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- I'M GONNA USE MY POSITION TO PUSH AGAINST THIS
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- WICKEDNESS THAT MY PEOPLE, THE POLISH PEOPLE
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- AND MANY OTHERS ARE SUFFERING HORRIBLY.
- 00:20:26.782 --> 00:20:29.217
- AND THIS GUY WORKED HIS WAY UP IN THE CHURCH, AND
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- WHEN HE BECAME POPE, I TELL THE STORY, I WAS A
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- KID WHEN HE BECAME POPE AND I WAS AMAZED
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- BECAUSE HE WAS YOUNG.
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- IT WAS JUST KIND OF A CRAZY THING TO HAVE
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- SUDDENLY THIS YOUNG, VIBRANT POPE THAT'S LIKE
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- GETTING OUT THERE AND WHATEVER.
- 00:20:45.701 --> 00:20:47.169
- SO HE WAS REALLY AN EXCITING FIGURE FOR
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- ANYBODY OF FAITH.
- 00:20:49.571 --> 00:20:51.273
- BUT WHEN HE GOT REALLY OLD AND HE GOT
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- PARKINSON'S, HE WAS HEROIC IN THAT.
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- HE SAYS I'M NOT GONNA JUST SLIP AWAY, I'M GONNA
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- BE OUT THERE AND I'M GONNA SHOW THE WORLD THAT
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- EVEN WHEN YOU ARE DEBILITATED, YOU'RE STILL
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- A HUMAN BEING, SO YOU CAN BE A BABY IN THE WOMB,
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- YOU CAN BE A PERSON IN A COMA, YOU ARE
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- SACRED IN GOD'S EYES.
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- AND JUST BECAUSE I'M NOT VIBRANT ANYMORE, I'M
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- STILL A MAN, I'M STILL A HUMAN BEING, GOD IS WITH
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- ME EVEN THOUGH I LOOK ILL, AND HE DID LOOK ILL.
- 00:21:19.101 --> 00:21:22.070
- SO THERE WAS SOMETHING REALLY AMAZING, HE WAS
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- WILLING TO LIVE HIS LIFE OUT THERE EVEN AS HE WAS
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- CLEARLY VERY SICK.
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- WHEN YOU SEE A MAN LIVE HIS LIFE FOR GOD IN THAT
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- WAY AND FINISH STRONG TO GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH
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- THE DECADES, I MEAN IT'S KIND OF AN AMAZING THING.
- 00:21:36.952 --> 00:21:39.855
- I JUST THOUGHT I'VE GOT TO PUT HIM IN THERE.
- 00:21:39.855 --> 00:21:42.124
- - YOU MENTIONED HIS VIBRANCY.
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- I THINK HIS VIBRANCY, HE PROJECTED STRENGTH,
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- ENERGY, AN AMAZING FIGURE AND WHO KNOWS, PERHAPS AN
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- EVIL EMPIRE MAY STILL BE ALIVE AND KICKING TODAY
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- WITHOUT THIS POPE AT THAT TIME IN HISTORY.
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- - LOOK, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY DOUBT THAT
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- BETWEEN HIM AND THATCHER AND REAGAN, THE THREE OF
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- THEM HEROICALLY STOOD UP, AND BECAUSE OF THAT, THE
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- SOVIET UNION COLLAPSED AND ALL OF THOSE
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- COUNTRIES, OKAY, UKRAINE, LITHUANIA, ALL THOSE
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- COUNTRIES WERE, YOU KNOW, ALLOWED TO BE FREE AGAIN
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- OR AT LEAST TO FIND OUT THE GOVERNMENT
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- THAT THEY WANTED.
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- THEY WERE NO LONGER UNDER THE SOVIET OPPRESSION.
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- - INCLUDING HIS NATIVE POLAND.
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- 7 MEN AND THE SECRET OF THEIR GREATNESS,
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- OUR TBN OFFER FOR THIS MONTH.
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- OUR LAST MAN IS SOMEONE I BELIEVE YOU KNEW PERSONALLY.
- 00:22:30.038 --> 00:22:32.674
- - OH, YEAH. - PRETTY WELL.
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- - YEAH. - CHUCK COLSON.
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- TELL US ABOUT HIM.
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- - THE REAL STORY IS THAT HE WAS A VERY AMBITIOUS
- 00:22:37.679 --> 00:22:41.450
- GUY, WENT TO BROWN UNIVERSITY, WAS IN THE
- 00:22:41.450 --> 00:22:43.452
- MARINES, AND ENDS UP WORKING IN POLITICS,
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- AND ENDS UP BEING A LAWYER WHO IS
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- SPECIAL COUNSEL TO RICHARD NIXON.
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- - AS A YOUNG GUY.
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- - VERY YOUNG. HE WAS IN HIS 30S.
- 00:22:52.727 --> 00:22:54.396
- AND HE GETS INVOLVED IN KIND OF THE DIRTY BEHIND
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- THE SCENES REELECTING THE PRESIDENT THING,
- 00:22:57.666 --> 00:22:59.801
- SO HE GETS SUCKED INTO WATERGATE, AND AROUND
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- THIS TIME HIS MARRIAGE WAS STRUGGLING, AND
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- BEFORE HE GETS INDICTED OR SENT TO PRISON,
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- HE HAS A JESUS MOMENT.
- 00:23:09.211 --> 00:23:12.380
- THE HEAD OF RAYTHEON, THIS BIG INDUSTRIAL GUY
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- HAD BECOME A CHRISTIAN, AND HE PULLS CHUCK IN
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- TO HIS OFFICE AND SHARES WITH HIM C.S. LEWIS AND
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- PRIDE AND HE STARTS TALKING TO HIM.
- 00:23:20.789 --> 00:23:22.457
- AND CHUCK KNEW, UH-OH, HE'S TALKING TO ME.
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- THIS IS LIKE I'M A PRIDEFUL, SUCCESSFUL HOT SHOT.
- 00:23:25.327 --> 00:23:30.065
- SO CHUCK TURNS HIS LIFE OVER TO JESUS BEFORE PRISON.
- 00:23:30.065 --> 00:23:33.568
- SO HERE'S WHAT'S SO COOL. BECAUSE OF HIS NEW FAITH,
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- HE WOULD NOT TAKE A PLEA BARGAIN.
- 00:23:37.839 --> 00:23:40.475
- HE SAYS I'M NOT GONNA LIE TO SAVE MY SKIN.
- 00:23:40.475 --> 00:23:42.911
- IF I HAVE TO GO TO JAIL, I'M GOING TO JAIL.
- 00:23:42.911 --> 00:23:44.346
- JESUS GOES WITH ME TO THE JAIL.
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- I'M JUST GONNA TELL THE TRUTH.
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- SO HE TELLS THE TRUTH, THE JUDGE THROWS THE BOOK
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- AT HIM, HE GOES TO JAIL.
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- ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY
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- GOES TO JAIL, AND WHILE HE WAS IN JAIL, MORE AND
- 00:23:53.188 --> 00:23:58.760
- MORE HE FELT COMPASSION FOR THESE PRISONERS
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- BECAUSE HE KNOWS I'M GETTING OUT,
- 00:24:01.963 --> 00:24:03.698
- THEY'RE STILL HERE.
- 00:24:03.698 --> 00:24:05.233
- SO WHEN HE LEFT JAIL, HE SPENT THE LAST THREE AND
- 00:24:05.233 --> 00:24:10.405
- A HALF DECADES OF HIS LIFE MINISTERING TO
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- PRISONERS, PREACHING TO PRISONERS, AND WE'RE
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- COMMANDED IN THE BIBLE TO REACH OUT TO
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- PRISONERS, TO VISIT THEM.
- 00:24:20.348 --> 00:24:22.217
- SO CHUCK COLSON MAKES THIS HIS WHOLE LIFE.
- 00:24:22.217 --> 00:24:25.453
- HE GAVE HIS LIFE OVER TO GOD'S PURPOSES, AND GOD
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- TOUCHED LITERALLY MILLIONS OF PEOPLE HAVE
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- HAD THEIR LIVES TOUCHED BECAUSE HE WAS WILLING TO
- 00:24:31.192 --> 00:24:33.662
- SACRIFICE HIS LIFE TO DO WHAT GOD CALLED
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- HIM TO DO, YOU KNOW.
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- YOU CANNOT GO WRONG DOING WHAT GOD WANTS YOU TO DO.
- 00:24:36.865 --> 00:24:40.168
- - WHEN YOU LOOK OUT ON THE LANDSCAPE TODAY, IS
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- THERE ANYONE YOU SEE NOW WHO YOU SAY WOW, HE OR
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- SHE MAY BE A CANDIDATE FOR A FUTURE BIOGRAPHY,
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- THAT THERE'S GREATNESS IN THAT PERSON, THERE'S
- 00:24:51.279 --> 00:24:53.315
- BLOSSOMING GREATNESS, THERE'S REAL POTENTIAL THERE.
- 00:24:53.315 --> 00:24:56.651
- - I MEAN THIS FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART.
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- THERE'S NOT A PERSON ALIVE WHO COULD NOT BE
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- ONE OF THESE PEOPLE.
- 00:25:01.423 --> 00:25:02.991
- EVERY ONE OF THESE PEOPLE WAS JUST A PERSON.
- 00:25:02.991 --> 00:25:04.993
- THEY DID THE RIGHT THING.
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- THERE'S NOT A HUMAN BEING WHO CANNOT DO THE
- 00:25:06.328 --> 00:25:09.631
- RIGHT THING WHEN THE CHIPS ARE DOWN.
- 00:25:09.631 --> 00:25:11.466
- NOW YOU NEED GOD, I WOULD SAY YOU NEED GOD, EVEN IF
- 00:25:11.466 --> 00:25:13.602
- YOU DON'T KNOW IT'S GOD, IT'S GONNA BE GOD.
- 00:25:13.602 --> 00:25:15.904
- BUT IF YOU SAY TO GOD, GOD I WANT YOU TO USE ME,
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- SHOW ME, SHOW ME.
- 00:25:18.707 --> 00:25:21.109
- NOBODY WANTS YOU TO BE A GREAT PERSON MORE THAN
- 00:25:21.109 --> 00:25:24.145
- GOD WHO CREATED US AND LOVES US, SO AS I SAY
- 00:25:24.145 --> 00:25:27.182
- THESE ARE JUST SOME MODELS THAT KIND OF GIVE
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- US SOME IDEAS ABOUT HOW IT CAN BE DONE.
- 00:25:29.584 --> 00:25:32.554
- - ERIC METAXAS.
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- THIS BOOK, 7 MEN AND THE SECRET OF THEIR GREATNESS.
- 00:25:33.722 --> 00:25:36.858
- ERIC, GOD BLESS YOU MY FRIEND AND KEEP IT UP.
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- WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN SOON.
- 00:25:39.060 --> 00:25:40.161
- - I HOPE SO. - YES.
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- AND FOR TBN PRAISE, THANKS FOR JOINING US.
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- I'M ERICK STAKELBECK. GOD BLESS YOU.
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