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December 3, 2025

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. >> the following program is
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>> the following program is sponsored by today.
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Sponsored by today. discover the truth behind their
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Discover the truth behind their traditions lee strobel
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Traditions lee strobel separates the fact from the
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Separates the fact from the fiction and delivers the case
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Fiction and delivers the case christmas plus the walk through
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Christmas plus the walk through thousand fences i would say in
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Thousand fences i would say in the face of trouble ben from a
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The face of trouble ben from a thousand ditch walk through
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Thousand ditch walk through fire with singer ben fuller.
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Fire with singer ben fuller. >> was it hard for you.
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>> was it hard for you. >> i wanted to run away.
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>> i wanted to run away. i was i think a bunch of us do.
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I was i think a bunch of us do. to pull a jonah on today's 700
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To pull a jonah on today's 700 clock.
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Clock. >> still trying to figure that
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>> still trying to figure that one out myself.
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One out myself. >> hi, everyone.
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>> hi, everyone. welcome to the 700 club.
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Welcome to the 700 club. israel's fire with hezbollah is
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Israel's fire with hezbollah is in danger of falling apart.
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In danger of falling apart. israeli are warning lebanon to
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Israeli are warning lebanon to step up its efforts to disarm
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Step up its efforts to disarm the terror group to prevent
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The terror group to prevent more fighting.
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More fighting. >> meanwhile, israel is shaking
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>> meanwhile, israel is shaking up its global messaging.
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Up its global messaging. the new strategy is taken from
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The new strategy is taken from advice given by the late
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Advice given by the late charlie kirk to benjamin
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Charlie kirk to benjamin netanyahu.
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Netanyahu. cbn's paul petite update from
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Cbn's paul petite update from jerusalem.
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Jerusalem. >> prime minister benjamin
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>> prime minister benjamin netanyahu met with president
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Netanyahu met with president donald trump's envoy for
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Donald trump's envoy for lebanon affairs as border
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Lebanon affairs as border tensions continue to escalate
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Tensions continue to escalate in northern israel.
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In northern israel. israeli officials say last
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Israeli officials say last year's cease fire hezbollah is
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Year's cease fire hezbollah is unraveling and without
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Unraveling and without significant changes.
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Significant changes. another round of fighting in
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Another round of fighting in the north is almost inevitable.
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The north is almost inevitable. one israeli official says
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One israeli official says they've warned lebanon's
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They've warned lebanon's government that it's failing
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Government that it's failing hezbollah as required, adding
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Hezbollah as required, adding that the terror group has
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That the terror group has boosted its ranks and restocked
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Boosted its ranks and restocked rockets smuggled through syria.
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Rockets smuggled through syria. while visiting wounded troops
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While visiting wounded troops at a hospital near tel
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At a hospital near tel netanyahu repeated his goal to
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Netanyahu repeated his goal to expand buffer zone along the
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Expand buffer zone along the israel syria border.
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Israel syria border. the prime minister says he's
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The prime minister says he's open to a syria deal but will
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Open to a syria deal but will not allow any repeat of october
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Not allow any repeat of october seven.
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Seven. >> i don't want to.
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>> i don't want to. >> we are determined to protect
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>> we are determined to protect our communities on our borders
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Our communities on our borders including the northern border
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Including the northern border and to prevent the
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And to prevent the establishment of terrorists
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Establishment of terrorists hostile actions against us to
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Hostile actions against us to protect our druze allies and to
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Protect our druze allies and to ensure the state of israel is
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Ensure the state of israel is safe from a ground attack and
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Safe from a ground attack and other attacks from the areas
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Other attacks from the areas adjacent to the border.
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Adjacent to the border. last week's targeted
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Last week's targeted counterterror raid in southern
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Counterterror raid in southern syria left six idf soldiers
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Syria left six idf soldiers wounded.
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Wounded. meanwhile, small remains of a
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Meanwhile, small remains of a body delivered the gaza strip
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Body delivered the gaza strip is not that of any remaining
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Is not that of any remaining hostages.
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Hostages. the bodies of two hostages yet
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The bodies of two hostages yet to be delivered as part of the
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To be delivered as part of the fire deal with hamas include an
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Fire deal with hamas include an israeli and thai captive in the
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Israeli and thai captive in the public relations war.
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Public relations war. israel is its international
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Israel is its international communications sparked by a
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Communications sparked by a warning in this letter from
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Warning in this letter from charlie kirk to benjamin
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Charlie kirk to benjamin netanyahu.
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Netanyahu. seven days before kirk's
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Seven days before kirk's assassination, kirk urged
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Assassination, kirk urged netanyahu to confront what he
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Netanyahu to confront what he called a losing information war
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Called a losing information war young americans.
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Young americans. u.s. ambassador to israel mike
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U.s. ambassador to israel mike huckabee those concerns in an
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Huckabee those concerns in an interview with cbs news in
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Interview with cbs news in september.
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September. >> i'll be the first to say i
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>> i'll be the first to say i think israel's got to do a
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Think israel's got to do a better job of their messaging.
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Better job of their messaging. if you were the p.r. consultant
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If you were the p.r. consultant for them, what would you tell
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For them, what would you tell them?
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Them? i'd tell them to get a bunch of
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I'd tell them to get a bunch of social media influencers
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Social media influencers because the real problem is
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Because the real problem is with generation z.
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With generation z. >> in his letter kirk targeting
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>> in his letter kirk targeting christian evangelicals to help
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Christian evangelicals to help spread accurate information in
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Spread accurate information in support of israel.
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Support of israel. >> i think that christian
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>> i think that christian evangelicals they play a
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Evangelicals they play a pivotal role in that and if we
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Pivotal role in that and if we have christian watching this so
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Have christian watching this so i have to say thank you from us
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I have to say thank you from us israelis we really cherish that
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Israelis we really cherish that i think that we you were called
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I think that we you were called for such as as this to use your
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For such as as this to use your voice and to not be silent.
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Voice and to not be silent. >> the israeli government now
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>> the israeli government now is taking a more centralized
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Is taking a more centralized messaging strategy modeled by
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Messaging strategy modeled by the white house and press
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The white house and press secretary caroline leavitt.
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Secretary caroline leavitt. josh bedrosian, the prime
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Josh bedrosian, the prime minister a spokesperson for
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Minister a spokesperson for foreign media stepped into her
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Foreign media stepped into her role just days after kirk's
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Role just days after kirk's letter.
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Letter. she issues daily briefings as
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She issues daily briefings as israel tries to regain control
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Israel tries to regain control of its global narrative.
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Of its global narrative. paul betty, cbn news thanks so
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Paul betty, cbn news thanks so much, paul.
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Much, paul. >> turning to political
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>> turning to political news here at home, president
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News here at home, president trump and the republican party
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Trump and the republican party were closely watching a special
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Were closely watching a special house election in tennessee
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House election in tennessee last night.
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Last night. republican matt van epps won by
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Republican matt van epps won by a healthy nine points but it's
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A healthy nine points but it's a far cry from trump's 22 point
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A far cry from trump's 22 point margin in that district in
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Margin in that district in 2024.
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2024. the narrowing gap is raising
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The narrowing gap is raising concerns the 2026 midterm
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Concerns the 2026 midterm elections.
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Elections. all this as the president is
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All this as the president is facing low poll numbers and a
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Facing low poll numbers and a growing crisis over an attack
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Growing crisis over an attack on an alleged drug smuggling
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On an alleged drug smuggling boat and chief political
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Boat and chief political analyst david brody joins us
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Analyst david brody joins us now for more.
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Now for more. let's start with the tennessee
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Let's start with the tennessee election.
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Election. how are republicans the outcome
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How are republicans the outcome of this race in view of the
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Of this race in view of the 2026 midterms?
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2026 midterms? >> not good, andrew.
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>> not good, andrew. they're nervous.
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They're nervous. you know, here's a riddle for
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You know, here's a riddle for you.
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You. what is a victory?
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What is a victory? not a victory?
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Not a victory? well the answer was last night
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Well the answer was last night in tennessee.
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In tennessee. >> nine points isn't going to
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>> nine points isn't going to cut it.
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Cut it. andrew, when you're winning as
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Andrew, when you're winning as you mentioned, a district that
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You mentioned, a district that president trump won by plus 20
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President trump won by plus 20 the former congressman mark
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The former congressman mark green won that district 24.
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Green won that district 24. and if you look inside the
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And if you look inside the numbers not to geek out once
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Numbers not to geek out once again but in the rural counties
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Again but in the rural counties of that district democrats were
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Of that district democrats were performing ten or the democrat
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Performing ten or the democrat candidate i should say was
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Candidate i should say was performing ten points better
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Performing ten points better than democrats normally do and
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Than democrats normally do and that's in the rural areas.
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That's in the rural areas. >> and let's also remember on
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>> and let's also remember on the cake for the democrats, if
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The cake for the democrats, if you will.
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You will. >> even though they lost, they
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>> even though they lost, they ran a very liberal candidate,
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Ran a very liberal candidate, they were calling her the aoc
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They were calling her the aoc of tennessee.
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Of tennessee. she was still doing better than
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She was still doing better than previous democrats in the rural
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Previous democrats in the rural counties.
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Counties. so you put it all together.
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So you put it all together. and that's not necessarily even
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And that's not necessarily even though it was a victory for the
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Though it was a victory for the republicans.
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Republicans. you wonder what would happen if
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You wonder what would happen if the democrats ran a centrist, a
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The democrats ran a centrist, a center left candidate that
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Center left candidate that could have actually won in
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Could have actually won in tennessee last night.
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Tennessee last night. >> all right, david, to the
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>> all right, david, to the latest poll shows the
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Latest poll shows the president's approval ratings
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President's approval ratings are 36%, disapproval 60%.
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Are 36%, disapproval 60%. why do you think we're seeing
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Why do you think we're seeing these numbers and what can the
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These numbers and what can the president do about it?
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President do about it? >> well, a couple of things.
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>> well, a couple of things. first of all, you know, a lot
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First of all, you know, a lot of times when these polls come
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Of times when these polls come out you'll hear me say time and
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Out you'll hear me say time and time again it's a poll.
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Time again it's a poll. >> it's a snapshot in time.
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>> it's a snapshot in time. i'm not on the methodology of
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I'm not on the methodology of the polls.
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The polls. >> but but andrew, in this case
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>> but but andrew, in this case we are seeing a trend and that
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We are seeing a trend and that trend continues to be his
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Trend continues to be his numbers, the president's poll
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Numbers, the president's poll numbers continuing to go down
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Numbers continuing to go down and it's pretty much across all
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And it's pretty much across all polls i mean look, even
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Polls i mean look, even rasmussen which is more of a
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Rasmussen which is more of a conservative polling group has
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Conservative polling group has it at about 45% but that's down
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It at about 45% but that's down from 51%.
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From 51%. >> so the point is the trend is
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>> so the point is the trend is down and what are they going to
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Down and what are they going to do about it?
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Do about it? >> well, clearly the buzz word
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>> well, clearly the buzz word is, you know, andrea has been
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Is, you know, andrea has been affordability.
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Affordability. >> democrats are capitalizing
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>> democrats are capitalizing on that.
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On that. they did it in the special
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They did it in the special election in tennessee night and
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Election in tennessee night and the other day.
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The other day. >> it's interesting because
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>> it's interesting because president trump on tuesday call
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President trump on tuesday call at his at the cabinet meeting
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At his at the cabinet meeting said what the democrats are
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Said what the democrats are saying about affordability is
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Saying about affordability is quote a con job.
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Quote a con job. .
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. >> now of course for many
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>> now of course for many americans who see affordability
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Americans who see affordability is a real issue that may not go
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Is a real issue that may not go over well.
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Over well. but what he's referring to just
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But what he's referring to just to be clear a con job is that
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To be clear a con job is that the purchasing power in other
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The purchasing power in other words wages and in a paycheck
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Words wages and in a paycheck under the biden administration
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Under the biden administration was percent or less regarding
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Was percent or less regarding real wages in the paychecks
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Real wages in the paychecks under the biden administration
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Under the biden administration that according to the
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That according to the foundation now under the under
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Foundation now under the under the president it's up 1% now 1%
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The president it's up 1% now 1% from 4% down.
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From 4% down. so in words four minus one is
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So in words four minus one is 3%.
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3%. so it's still down.
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So it's still down. >> there's still an
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>> there's still an affordability problem.
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Affordability problem. it's getting a little better.
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It's getting a little better. but what the president is
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But what the president is saying is that he inherited a
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Saying is that he inherited a lot of this from president
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Lot of this from president biden and so they believe that
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Biden and so they believe that eventually they'll come out of
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Eventually they'll come out of it.
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It. and quite frankly in answer the
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And quite frankly in answer the only way this is going to help
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Only way this is going to help or actually be positive the
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Or actually be positive the republicans is they've got to
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Republicans is they've got to be good in the economy.
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Be good in the economy. >> those numbers have got to
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>> those numbers have got to turn around quarter one and
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Turn around quarter one and quarter two because of that big
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Quarter two because of that big beautiful bill that we kept
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Beautiful bill that we kept hearing about.
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Hearing about. well, they hope that the
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Well, they hope that the fruition of all of the labor
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Fruition of all of the labor through that bill will come in
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Through that bill will come in january quarter one and then of
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January quarter one and then of course quarter two of 2026.
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Course quarter two of 2026. >> all right.
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>> all right. the story this week the
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The story this week the controversy over the u.s.
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Controversy over the u.s. military attack on an alleged
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Military attack on an alleged drug smuggling boat.
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Drug smuggling boat. a second strike killed two
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A second strike killed two survivors raising questions if
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Survivors raising questions if it it was legal.
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It it was legal. how do you think the
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How do you think the administration's response has
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Administration's response has been and?
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Been and? >> is it hurting them?
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>> is it hurting them? it could hurt them going
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It could hurt them going forward.
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Forward. we don't know at this
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We don't know at this inconclusive.
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Inconclusive. and the reason i say that is
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And the reason i say that is because you have republicans
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Because you have republicans now on capitol hill, for
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Now on capitol hill, for example, roger wicker, the head
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Example, roger wicker, the head ,the head of the senate armed
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,the head of the senate armed services committee is going to
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Services committee is going to hold a hearing to essence a
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Hold a hearing to essence a fact finding mission of what
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Fact finding mission of what really happened and that's why
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Really happened and that's why i say inconclusive because we
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I say inconclusive because we have that washington post
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Have that washington post story.
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Story. we had a new york times
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We had a new york times suggesting that pete hegseth
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Suggesting that pete hegseth had ordered the kill strikes on
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Had ordered the kill strikes on the second strike.
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The second strike. but once again that has now
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But once again that has now been refuted by the white
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Been refuted by the white house.
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House. so until we get more facts, we
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So until we get more facts, we actually get video and audio of
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Actually get video and audio of what actually went down we're
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What actually went down we're not going to know and then
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Not going to know and then we'll have a better of how this
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We'll have a better of how this will actually impact the
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Will actually impact the administration.
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Administration. >> all right.
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>> all right. know it's not the first time
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Know it's not the first time defense secretary pete hegseth
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Defense secretary pete hegseth has faced controversy.
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Has faced controversy. there's also talk that fbi
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There's also talk that fbi director kash patel is in hot
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Director kash patel is in hot water over some actions.
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Water over some actions. >> do you think we'll see a
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>> do you think we'll see a shake up in this cabinet?
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Shake up in this cabinet? >> i don't think it'll be with
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>> i don't think it'll be with hegseth for sure.
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Hegseth for sure. maga still has his back and
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Maga still has his back and it's important to really track
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It's important to really track not liberals so much but where
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Not liberals so much but where the maga base is the maga base
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The maga base is the maga base is frustrated then you can see
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Is frustrated then you can see something but i don't see head
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Something but i don't see head chef kash patel a little bit
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Chef kash patel a little bit with maga they're a bit
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With maga they're a bit frustrated on some of what he's
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Frustrated on some of what he's done especially as it relates
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Done especially as it relates to epstein but it's pam bondi
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To epstein but it's pam bondi that i could be the first
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That i could be the first one to go here.
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One to go here. i wouldn't be surprised if it's
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I wouldn't be surprised if it's this month maybe in early
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This month maybe in early january or february but i think
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January or february but i think her she could be the first to
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Her she could be the first to get nixed if you will and i
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Get nixed if you will and i think that's where you'll see
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Think that's where you'll see the shake up.
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The shake up. >> all right, david, always
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>> all right, david, always appreciate your insights thanks
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Appreciate your insights thanks for joining us today.
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For joining us today. >> you bet.
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>> you bet. thanks, andrew.
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Thanks, andrew. all right, ashley, while ahead,
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All right, ashley, while ahead, award winning investigative
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Award winning investigative journalist and best author lee
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Journalist and best author lee strobel joins us live.
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Strobel joins us live. he'll present the evidence,
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He'll present the evidence, archeology and eyewitness
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Archeology and eyewitness accounts as he makes the case
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Accounts as he makes the case for christmas.
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For christmas. that's coming up.
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That's coming up. also ahead, they're trading
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Also ahead, they're trading beer pong for bible studies.
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Beer pong for bible studies. campus revival has come to
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Campus revival has come to fraternities and sororities.
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Fraternities and sororities. and we'll take you to
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And we'll take you to one school to witness the
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One school to witness the spiritual hunger inside greek
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Spiritual hunger inside greek life.
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Just went completely blank. doctors one way forward.
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They told me that it's better to abort my baby.
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To abort my baby. >> one family's of faith.
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The whole time. >> tomorrow on the 700 clive,
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Day across our platforms fraternity houses that are well
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Fraternity houses that are well known for their parties.
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Known for their parties. now a powerful move of god on
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Now a powerful move of god on us college campuses is
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Us college campuses is transforming greek clubs into
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Transforming greek clubs into places of bible and worship.
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Places of bible and worship. charlene aaron brings us the
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Charlene aaron brings us the story from clemson university.
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Story from clemson university. >> the ministry of greek
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>> the ministry of greek intervarsity here on clemson's
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Intervarsity here on clemson's campus is seeing radical
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Campus is seeing radical success as the spirit of god
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Success as the spirit of god moves among students,
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Moves among students, fraternity and sorority members
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Fraternity and sorority members are leading bible studies for
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Are leading bible studies for their brothers and sisters
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Their brothers and sisters aimed at fostering community
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Aimed at fostering community and spiritual transformation.
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And spiritual transformation. my eyes being open to my faith
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My eyes being open to my faith has drawn me to to the point
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Has drawn me to to the point where i've found purpose in
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Where i've found purpose in jesus christ.
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Jesus christ. >> the sights and sounds campus
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>> the sights and sounds campus life are familiar from students
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Life are familiar from students rushing to and from to what's
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Rushing to and from to what's becoming a new scene on many
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Becoming a new scene on many campuses.
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Campuses. then jesus tone because you see
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Then jesus tone because you see me you're bleak blessed are who
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Me you're bleak blessed are who have not seen the arab league
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Have not seen the arab league frat houses known for alcohol
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Frat houses known for alcohol filled parties are seeing a
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Filled parties are seeing a surge in interest from
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Surge in interest from fraternity and sorority members
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Fraternity and sorority members wanting to explore their faith.
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Wanting to explore their faith. >> we're here every week
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>> we're here every week learning scripture and having
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Learning scripture and having real conversations about what
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Real conversations about what christ is doing in our lives.
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Christ is doing in our lives. >> we have everything from
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>> we have everything from helping a girl get her first
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Helping a girl get her first bible to talking to girls about
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Bible to talking to girls about leading in the future being,
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Leading in the future being, able to walk through scripture
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Able to walk through scripture and also open discussion for
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And also open discussion for similar struggles and issues
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Similar struggles and issues and sins and things that we're
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And sins and things that we're all dealing with.
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All dealing with. >> it's been unbelievable.
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>> it's been unbelievable. but it's big and our image are
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But it's big and our image are like this.
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Like this. >> greek intervarsity ministry
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>> greek intervarsity ministry which aims to see these
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Which aims to see these students transformed the gospel
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Students transformed the gospel has seen a 43% increase in
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Has seen a 43% increase in participation over the last
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Participation over the last school year really in the past
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School year really in the past year or two we're seeing the
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Year or two we're seeing the spiritual hunger increase.
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Spiritual hunger increase. students who are showing up i
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Students who are showing up i mean we're seeing pictures and
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Mean we're seeing pictures and stories of fraternity houses
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Stories of fraternity houses that are just being packed and
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That are just being packed and overflowing with students are
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Overflowing with students are coming to bible studies.
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Coming to bible studies. >> with nearly 8000 students
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>> with nearly 8000 students making up clemson's
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Making up clemson's fraternities and sororities,
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Fraternities and sororities, dusty harrison, associate
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Dusty harrison, associate director of discipleship for
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Director of discipleship for greek intervarsity, says it's
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Greek intervarsity, says it's important to reach them on
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Important to reach them on their turf.
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Their turf. >> the word became flesh and
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>> the word became flesh and blood and moved into the dwelt
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Blood and moved into the dwelt among us.
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Among us. that's what we're encouraging
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That's what we're encouraging students do with our ministry
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Students do with our ministry is to go right where their
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Is to go right where their brothers and sisters and to
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Brothers and sisters and to live and lead incarnation alley
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Live and lead incarnation alley greek and christian as chaplain
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Greek and christian as chaplain alpha tau omega fraternity.
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Alpha tau omega fraternity. trey dowling sees the biblical
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Trey dowling sees the biblical to reaching his frat brothers
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To reaching his frat brothers with the gospel.
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With the gospel. >> jesus would would have been
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>> jesus would would have been in a fraternity.
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In a fraternity. >> and so before before he'd go
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>> and so before before he'd go crazy about that he hung out
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Crazy about that he hung out with just the worst of the
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With just the worst of the worst.
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Worst. he hung out with tax collectors
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He hung out with tax collectors pharisees and said you see and
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Pharisees and said you see and got dinner with them and the
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Got dinner with them and the biggest sinners of all time.
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Biggest sinners of all time. >> the image of god is talked
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>> the image of god is talked about a lot especially in
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About a lot especially in genesis one so greek into
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Genesis one so greek into varsity helps students lead
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Varsity helps students lead bible studies in their
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Bible studies in their fraternity and and sorority
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Fraternity and and sorority chapters.
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Chapters. >> our vision and our
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>> our vision and our philosophy is to into to mentor
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Philosophy is to into to mentor and to disciple student leaders
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And to disciple student leaders in different fraternities and
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In different fraternities and sororities on campus so that
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Sororities on campus so that they can be encouraged and to
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They can be encouraged and to lead ministry in their chapter
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Lead ministry in their chapter in a way that they uniquely can
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In a way that they uniquely can because of the relationships
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Because of the relationships and the proximity being that
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And the proximity being that guy who you know can go
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Guy who you know can go downtown with them and not
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Downtown with them and not drink and get a water at the
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Drink and get a water at the bar and, just stand with them
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Bar and, just stand with them and have more fun than they
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And have more fun than they are.
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Are. everyone's like dude, why
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Everyone's like dude, why aren't you drinking?
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Aren't you drinking? you know, why aren't you doing
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You know, why aren't you doing all this stuff?
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All this stuff? so so that's been really cool
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So so that's been really cool for me.
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For me. >> like why do you do this?
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>> like why do you do this? and that leads those
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And that leads those conversations.
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Conversations. >> eric mendenhall, chaplain
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>> eric mendenhall, chaplain for kappa sigma leads, the
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For kappa sigma leads, the weekly bible study something he
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Weekly bible study something he never imagined after up
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Never imagined after up struggling to fully engage
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Struggling to fully engage scripture.
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Scripture. >> wasn't that interesting to
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>> wasn't that interesting to me.
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Me. but ever since like i started
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But ever since like i started going to greek ivy for freshman
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Going to greek ivy for freshman year last year.
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Year last year. like the word is so interesting
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Like the word is so interesting to me and like i love to learn
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To me and like i love to learn about it and it's something
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About it and it's something that i look forward to.
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That i look forward to. >> all of this comes as revival
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>> all of this comes as revival sweeps college campuses in
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Sweeps college campuses in indiana purdue's greek
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Indiana purdue's greek intervarsity has become the
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Intervarsity has become the largest student group on while
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Largest student group on while indiana university recently saw
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Indiana university recently saw 98 greeks make decisions for
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98 greeks make decisions for jesus.
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Jesus. brian national director of
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Brian national director of greek intervarsity yeah so last
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Greek intervarsity yeah so last there were 215 fraternities and
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There were 215 fraternities and sororities the country that
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Sororities the country that were creating this sort of
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Were creating this sort of intentional space.
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Intentional space. and that was about 40 campuses
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And that was about 40 campuses that were uniquely on this
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That were uniquely on this growing spiritual desire aligns
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Growing spiritual desire aligns with recent research which
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With recent research which found gen z a fueling a bible
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Found gen z a fueling a bible reading come back weekly
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Reading come back weekly reading among u.s. adults has
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Reading among u.s. adults has climbed to 42% in 2025 and
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Climbed to 42% in 2025 and nearly half of young americans
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Nearly half of young americans engage scripture weekly.
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Engage scripture weekly. >> my faith was not what it
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>> my faith was not what it should have been when i was
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Should have been when i was younger.
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Younger. so coming here being with all
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So coming here being with all these guys helped me really
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These guys helped me really grow as a person and faith and
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Grow as a person and faith and just as a man in general.
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Just as a man in general. >> for luke totten, spiritual
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>> for luke totten, spiritual support his frat brothers
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Support his frat brothers helped him through spiritual
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Helped him through spiritual loss.
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Loss. >> my grandpa was really sick
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>> my grandpa was really sick and attending that bible study
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And attending that bible study gave me people who are going
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Gave me people who are going through very similar things
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Through very similar things like grandpa unfortunately
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Like grandpa unfortunately passed away like towards the
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Passed away like towards the end of that eight weeks while
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End of that eight weeks while we were rushing the fraternity
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We were rushing the fraternity but it gave me an outlet to go
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But it gave me an outlet to go and talk to people in a more
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And talk to people in a more serious setting than just
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Serious setting than just sitting around outside or doing
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Sitting around outside or doing whatever.
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Whatever. >> greek intervarsity sees
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>> greek intervarsity sees great potential for for growth
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Great potential for for growth reaching students for christ
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Reaching students for christ via its chapters on than 500
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Via its chapters on than 500 u.s. campuses.
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U.s. campuses. organizers hope the current
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Organizers hope the current momentum can help shape college
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Momentum can help shape college life in america for years to
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Life in america for years to come.
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Come. >> reading the bible but also
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>> reading the bible but also like talking the bible and a
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Like talking the bible and a fraternity with a bunch of guys
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Fraternity with a bunch of guys like everyone admitting that
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Like everyone admitting that they're broken but like we're
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They're broken but like we're in need of saving.
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In need of saving. one of the coolest things i've
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One of the coolest things i've been able to experience in
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Been able to experience in college.
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College. >> charlene aaron cbn
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>> charlene aaron cbn news clemson south.
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News clemson south. >> charlene thanks for making
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>> charlene thanks for making the trip.
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The trip. what what a phenomenal
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What what a phenomenal inspiring story just yesterday
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Inspiring story just yesterday on the 700 club.
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On the 700 club. terry and i were talking about
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Terry and i were talking about a news report how among young
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A news report how among young men there is a hunger for the
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Men there is a hunger for the word of god and the numbers
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Word of god and the numbers prove that.
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Prove that. >> absolutely i love what
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>> absolutely i love what one of those individuals said
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One of those individuals said he was like i believe that
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He was like i believe that jesus would have a fraternity.
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Jesus would have a fraternity. and here's why.
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And here's why. you know, i just i think it's
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You know, i just i think it's encouraging to see especially
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Encouraging to see especially gen z and even generation, you
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Gen z and even generation, you know, after them really coming
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Know, after them really coming the lord in a really beautiful,
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The lord in a really beautiful, intimate, authentic way.
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Intimate, authentic way. i think i've heard it so many
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I think i've heard it so many times it's like the younger
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Times it's like the younger generations want they can smell
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Generations want they can smell fluff like like one's business.
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Fluff like like one's business. >> so it's very important for
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>> so it's very important for them to find an authentic faith
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Them to find an authentic faith and they're finding it in jesus
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And they're finding it in jesus christ the one true god.
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Christ the one true god. and so it's always just
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And so it's always just encouraging get these reports
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Encouraging get these reports and stories.
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And stories. >> yeah, we've been saying
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>> yeah, we've been saying revival is occurring and more
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Revival is occurring and more proof of that.
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Proof of that. i was in a fraternity and it
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I was in a fraternity and it wasn't like this you know but i
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Wasn't like this you know but i did see a lot of broken guys
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Did see a lot of broken guys but we didn't talk about it.
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But we didn't talk about it. >> mhm.
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>> mhm. right this generation's talking
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Right this generation's talking about it on camera saying we're
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About it on camera saying we're broke and we need each other.
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Broke and we need each other. >> absolutely the move of god
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>> absolutely the move of god is really incredible.
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Is really incredible. it's courageous for these men
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It's courageous for these men and women to come and talk
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And women to come and talk about it.
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About it. it's not easy to walk the
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It's not easy to walk the christian walk in unless you're
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Christian walk in unless you're really devoted.
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Really devoted. we're not saying they're saints
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We're not saying they're saints but they are sincerely seeking
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But they are sincerely seeking it's awesome.
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It's awesome. we have some more on this.
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You and god bless. andrew over to you legend
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Andrew over to you legend mythology or wishful thinking
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Mythology or wishful thinking christmas is a great story but
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Christmas is a great story but it would never pass the
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It would never pass the scrutiny of a law educated
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Scrutiny of a law educated journalist at the chicago
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Journalist at the chicago tribune right.
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Tribune right. that's what lee strobel thought
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That's what lee strobel thought for years until he met the
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For years until he met the delgado and in for christmas
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Delgado and in for christmas award winning journalist and
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Award winning journalist and former atheist lee strobel ask
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Former atheist lee strobel ask one powerful question who was
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One powerful question who was in the manger that first
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In the manger that first christmas morning?
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Christmas morning? some say he he was a teacher, a
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Some say he he was a teacher, a prophet, a great moral leader.
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Prophet, a great moral leader. >> others believe he was the
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>> others believe he was the son of god using his background
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Son of god using his background as a legal journalist.
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As a legal journalist. >> strobel investigates the
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>> strobel investigates the evidence archeology, eyewitness
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Evidence archeology, eyewitness accounts and history to uncover
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Accounts and history to uncover the truth.
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The truth. he invites readers to look
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He invites readers to look beyond the holiday traditions
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Beyond the holiday traditions and discover the story that
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And discover the story that changed everything all right.
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Changed everything all right. >> here's the book the case for
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>> here's the book the case for christmas a small book huge
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Christmas a small book huge message and we love when lee
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Message and we love when lee strobel joins us on the 700
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Strobel joins us on the 700 club.
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Club. >> thanks for being with us
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>> thanks for being with us today.
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Today. >> well, thank you and your
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>> well, thank you and your great honor to be with you
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Great honor to be with you again.
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Again. what attitude towards christmas
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What attitude towards christmas when you were an atheist
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When you were an atheist working as a journalist?
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Working as a journalist? >> well, you know, love the
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>> well, you know, love the christmas season.
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Christmas season. what's not to like?
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What's not to like? people give gifts.
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People give gifts. people are generally happy and
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People are generally happy and a lot of parties and so forth.
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A lot of parties and so forth. so even as an atheist i enjoyed
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So even as an atheist i enjoyed christmas season until some
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Christmas season until some christian would try to tell me
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Christian would try to tell me that it's actually based on the
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That it's actually based on the birth of jesus and then i would
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Birth of jesus and then i would scoff at that and walk way.
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Scoff at that and walk way. >> so i think there's a lot to
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>> so i think there's a lot to like about the season but the
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Like about the season but the question is is it really based
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Question is is it really based on historic reality that the
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On historic reality that the baby in the manger was indeed
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Baby in the manger was indeed the unique son of god early on
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The unique son of god early on in your book you i mean pretty
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In your book you i mean pretty quickly hit that oh god oh
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Quickly hit that oh god oh family was this family so
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Family was this family so special and life changing you?
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Special and life changing you? >> well, i was a young reporter
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>> well, i was a young reporter atheist.
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Atheist. i wrote an article that was
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I wrote an article that was published on thanksgiving about
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Published on thanksgiving about family that had virtually no
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Family that had virtually no possessions.
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Possessions. i mean they had no food, no no
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I mean they had no food, no no heat in their hovel that they
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Heat in their hovel that they then they were just absolutely
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Then they were just absolutely devoid of no culture in the
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Devoid of no culture in the core chicago winter and yet
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Core chicago winter and yet they had struck me was a no
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They had struck me was a no sense of victim imposition or
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Sense of victim imposition or self-pity.
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Self-pity. they they had a strong faith in
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They they had a strong faith in and it encouraged them and it
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And it encouraged them and it it strengthened them and i was
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It strengthened them and i was perplexed by this as an
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Perplexed by this as an atheist.
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Atheist. so on christmas eve i i went to
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So on christmas eve i i went to visit them again and the
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Visit them again and the tribune readers had had shower
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Tribune readers had had shower them with a treasure trove of
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Them with a treasure trove of gifts.
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Gifts. i mean their place was full of
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I mean their place was full of appliances and food and cash
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Appliances and food and cash and presents and beds and all
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And presents and beds and all kinds of stuff coats and and i
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Kinds of stuff coats and and i said think of all this.
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Said think of all this. >> and because what shocked me
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>> and because what shocked me was interrupted them packing up
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Was interrupted them packing up much of their newfound wealth
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Much of their newfound wealth to give it away.
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To give it away. >> and and this elderly woman
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>> and and this elderly woman said well our neighbors are
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Said well our neighbors are still in need we cannot have
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Still in need we cannot have plenty while they have nothing.
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Plenty while they have nothing. this is what jesus us to do.
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This is what jesus us to do. which really shocked me.
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Which really shocked me. i said well you appreciate all
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I said well you appreciate all this stuff the tribune readers
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This stuff the tribune readers provided and she said oh this
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Provided and she said oh this is wonderful.
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Is wonderful. this is a gift from god.
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This is a gift from god. but lee, that's not his
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But lee, that's not his greatest gift.
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Greatest gift. his greatest gift is jesus.
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His greatest gift is jesus. we celebrate that tomorrow and
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We celebrate that tomorrow and .
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. it just struck me the the stark
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It just struck me the the stark contrast between these people
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Contrast between these people who originally had nothing yet
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Who originally had nothing yet had faith and had joy.
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Had faith and had joy. well, i had everything i
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Well, i had everything i materially but as an atheist my
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Materially but as an atheist my soul was as barren as the hovel
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Soul was as barren as the hovel in which they had lived so it
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In which they had lived so it had a big impact me and i think
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Had a big impact me and i think they were a link in a long
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They were a link in a long chain of circumstances and
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Chain of circumstances and events that ultimately led me
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Events that ultimately led me to faith seven years later.
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To faith seven years later. >> yeah.
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>> yeah. and so you out to answer a
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And so you out to answer a crucial question who was really
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Crucial question who was really the manger that first
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The manger that first christmas?
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Christmas? >> so what were some of your.
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>> so what were some of your. >> yes.
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>> yes. well you know we've got two
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Well you know we've got two excellent historical accounts
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Excellent historical accounts of the birth of jesus in the
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Of the birth of jesus in the gospel of luke and the gospel
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Gospel of luke and the gospel of matthew.
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Of matthew. >> luke was sort of a first
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>> luke was sort of a first century investigative reporter
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Century investigative reporter .
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. he said i carefully
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He said i carefully investigated everything so i
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Investigated everything so i could write in orderly account
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Could write in orderly account about the certainty of what
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About the certainty of what took place.
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Took place. >> and so he writes from mary's
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>> and so he writes from mary's perspective i i believe he
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Perspective i i believe he interviewed mary.
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Interviewed mary. he if not he probably interview
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He if not he probably interview susanna and johanna who he
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Susanna and johanna who he quotes in his gospel so his
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Quotes in his gospel so his gospels written for mary's
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Gospels written for mary's perspective.
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Perspective. then matthew who is a disciple
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Then matthew who is a disciple writes from joseph's perspect
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Writes from joseph's perspect that matthew had become a
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That matthew had become a leader of the church in
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Leader of the church in jerusalem or one of the other
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Jerusalem or one of the other leaders was james, the brother
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Leaders was james, the brother of jesus.
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Of jesus. so he probably told matthew
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So he probably told matthew about the perspective from the
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About the perspective from the male side of the family.
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Male side of the family. and so here we have two very
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And so here we have two very early consistent although
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Early consistent although accounts of the birth of jesus
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Accounts of the birth of jesus and people say well why does
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And people say well why does mark use gospel recorded?
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Mark use gospel recorded? well mark's gospel starts a
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Well mark's gospel starts a little later in the life of
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Little later in the life of jesus and interestingly in mark
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Jesus and interestingly in mark six chapter three he refers to
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Six chapter three he refers to jesus as mary.
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Jesus as mary. you would never do that in
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You would never do that in first century jewish culture be
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First century jewish culture be the father's son who would have
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The father's son who would have been joseph's son even if
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Been joseph's son even if joseph deceased at the time.
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Joseph deceased at the time. why did he call joel jesus son?
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Why did he call joel jesus son? >> because it was kind of his
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>> because it was kind of his wink to say you know what?
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Wink to say you know what? know joseph was not his
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Know joseph was not his biological father.
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Biological father. and then john why didn't john
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And then john why didn't john mention?
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Mention? well, john doesn't repeat
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Well, john doesn't repeat everything in the other gospels
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Everything in the other gospels he wrote the last gospel and he
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He wrote the last gospel and he has this grand opening the
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Has this grand opening the incarnation and big beginning
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Incarnation and big beginning was the word of what was word
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Was the word of what was word was and the word was god and
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Was and the word was god and the word came into our our
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The word came into our our neighborhood so to speak and
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Neighborhood so to speak and moved in.
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Moved in. >> in in other words the
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>> in in other words the incarnation actually occurred.
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Incarnation actually occurred. so he writes theological
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So he writes theological perspective.
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Perspective. but what's interesting is he a
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But what's interesting is he a disciple by the name of
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Disciple by the name of ignatius and his follower a
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Ignatius and his follower a letter in which he says jesus
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Letter in which he says jesus quote was really and truly born
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Quote was really and truly born of a virgin.
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Of a virgin. so he affirms the virgin birth
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So he affirms the virgin birth of jesus.
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Of jesus. where did that?
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Where did that? i think from john who was his
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I think from john who was his his mentor.
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His mentor. >> what about the messianic
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>> what about the messianic prophecies and fitting them all
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Prophecies and fitting them all into the to the christmas
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Into the to the christmas story?
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Story? i know know we don't have a
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I know know we don't have a whole lot of time.
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Whole lot of time. >> can you comment on that?
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>> can you comment on that? yeah, a number of promises
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Yeah, a number of promises about jesus you know in micah
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About jesus you know in micah chapter five verse two it talks
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Chapter five verse two it talks about the messiah would be born
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About the messiah would be born in bethlehem which he was.
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In bethlehem which he was. and in isaiah we a prediction
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And in isaiah we a prediction that a virgin would give birth.
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That a virgin would give birth. now skeptics well wait a
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Now skeptics well wait a minute.
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Minute. that's not the right word in
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That's not the right word in hebrew for virgin.
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Hebrew for virgin. >> no, there was no single word
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>> no, there was no single word in ancient hebrew for virgin.
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In ancient hebrew for virgin. the word used alma means a
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The word used alma means a young maiden and a young maiden
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Young maiden and a young maiden was considered to be a virgin
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Was considered to be a virgin in those days the word that a
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In those days the word that a lot of skeptics say they should
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Lot of skeptics say they should have used does not always refer
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Have used does not always refer to a virgin.
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To a virgin. so yes, we have a prophecy the
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So yes, we have a prophecy the virgin birth of jesus that has
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Virgin birth of jesus that has double fulfillment for king
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Double fulfillment for king ahaz who lived 700 years before
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Ahaz who lived 700 years before jesus but also looking forward
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Jesus but also looking forward birth of the messiah.
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Birth of the messiah. >> lea your search brought you
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>> lea your search brought you to the conclusion that that
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To the conclusion that that christmas is based on
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Christmas is based on historical reality.
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Historical reality. how did it transform your life?
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How did it transform your life? >> oh well you know best
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>> oh well you know best stories are what are the ones
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Stories are what are the ones that are true and you know you
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That are true and you know you can have a wonderful story
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Can have a wonderful story that's inspiring that's
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That's inspiring that's fictional and somebody made it
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Fictional and somebody made it up and you go oh that's fun,
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Up and you go oh that's fun, that's interesting.
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That's interesting. >> but when you know it's it
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>> but when you know it's it changes everything.
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Changes everything. it gives you a sense of all in
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It gives you a sense of all in at the incarnation of the son
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At the incarnation of the son of god who came on to redeem
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Of god who came on to redeem humankind it's mind blowing and
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Humankind it's mind blowing and inspiring.
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Inspiring. >> so the case for christmas.
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>> so the case for christmas. small book huge.
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Small book huge. you've written a lot of books
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You've written a lot of books with this one specifically what
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With this one specifically what impact you wanted to make on
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Impact you wanted to make on your readers?
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Your readers? well, we made it very
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Well, we made it very inexpensive and the hope was
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Inexpensive and the hope was that christians read it and it
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That christians read it and it would deepen their faith but
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Would deepen their faith but that they'd give it away or
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That they'd give it away or bike extra.
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Bike extra. i it cost me to buy my own
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I it cost me to buy my own book.
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Book. i bought 300 copies just to
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I bought 300 copies just to give away to people that i
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Give away to people that i encounter between now and
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Encounter between now and christmas flight attendants and
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Christmas flight attendants and clerks at stores and and
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Clerks at stores and and waiters and waitresses i'm just
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Waiters and waitresses i'm just giving them out right and left
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Giving them out right and left because the gospel is in it.
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Because the gospel is in it. and my hope is that people will
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And my hope is that people will will seize this opportunity of
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Will seize this opportunity of the christmas season are more
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The christmas season are more spiritually sensitive and share
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Spiritually sensitive and share this kind with them that
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This kind with them that christmas is true and.
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Christmas is true and. >> it fits in a stocking too.
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>> it fits in a stocking too. so there's another another
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So there's another another gift.
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Gift. it's a spiritual stocking
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It's a spiritual stocking stuffer and frankly it's always
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Stuffer and frankly it's always thanks so much for being with
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Thanks so much for being with us.
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Us. >> we appreciate it.
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>> we appreciate it. >> thank you, andrea.
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>> thank you, andrea. great to be with you.
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Great to be with you. lisa book is called the case
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Lisa book is called the case for christmas and i urge you to
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For christmas and i urge you to get a copy.
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Get a copy. they're everywhere.
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They're everywhere. >> ashley, great interview.
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>> ashley, great interview. all right, everyone.
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All right, everyone. well, still ahead 16 and
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Well, still ahead 16 and suicidal.
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Suicidal. ben fuller says god knocked the
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Ben fuller says god knocked the gun from his hand before he
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Gun from his hand before he could even pull the trigger.
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Could even pull the trigger. the singer songwriter also
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The singer songwriter also recalls his past as a secret
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Recalls his past as a secret drug addict.
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Drug addict. plus he'll reveal the moment
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Plus he'll reveal the moment when he had never been higher
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When he had never been higher in his life.
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In his life. that story's later on today's
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That story's later on today's hundred club oracles god, the
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Hundred club oracles god, the story of the new testament
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Story of the new testament shows you how the words of
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Shows you how the words of jesus were passed down from his
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Jesus were passed down from his earliest disciples into your
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Earliest disciples into your hands.
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Hands. this gripping film captures all
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This gripping film captures all the drama the danger and the
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The drama the danger and the divine power behind the book
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Divine power behind the book that changed the.
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That changed the. >> this film is a great nice
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>> this film is a great nice easy introduction new
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Easy introduction new testament.
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Testament. everybody loves these biblical
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Everybody loves these biblical stories so we're just going to
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Stories so we're just going to go back and say what is the
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Go back and say what is the origin story of these stories?
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Origin story of these stories? how did we get them?
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How did we get them? how did matthew and mark and
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How did matthew and mark and luke write things down?
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Luke write things down? we have this unbelievable
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We have this unbelievable interest in the bible now.
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Interest in the bible now. bible sales last year year were
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Bible sales last year year were up 22% this year, up 36%.
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Up 22% this year, up 36%. who knew that this was going to
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Who knew that this was going to be what the wall street journal
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Be what the wall street journal calls the golden age of bible
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Calls the golden age of bible publishing right now.
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Publishing right now. >> so what an amazing time to
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>> so what an amazing time to release this movie.
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Release this movie. >> god knew what he was doing.
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>> god knew what he was doing. get of god.
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Get of god. the story of the new testament
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The story of the new testament for a gift any dollar amount.
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800 650 1947 800 650 1947 that's 865 zero 1947.
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That's 865 zero 1947. >> welcome back to the seven
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>> welcome back to the seven hit club for this cbn
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Hit club for this cbn news break.
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News break. parts of the northeast are
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Parts of the northeast are digging out after the first
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Digging out after the first major winter storm of the year.
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Major winter storm of the year. tuesday's nor'easter dropped
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Tuesday's nor'easter dropped than a foot of snow in some
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Than a foot of snow in some areas.
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Areas. it made for hazardous driving
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It made for hazardous driving conditions on interstate 84
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Conditions on interstate 84 near hartford, connecticut a
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Near hartford, connecticut a semi truck lost control and
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Semi truck lost control and flipped over the guardrail in
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Flipped over the guardrail in west virginia rescue workers
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West virginia rescue workers hauled a trucker to safety with
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Hauled a trucker to safety with his rig hanging 100 feet off
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His rig hanging 100 feet off the ground on an icy bridge.
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The ground on an icy bridge. the storm delayed thousands of
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The storm delayed thousands of airline flights.
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Airline flights. >> well, holiday season is in
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>> well, holiday season is in full swing and americans are
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Full swing and americans are spending despite frustrations
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Spending despite frustrations over the economy.
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Over the economy. adobe analytics report shoppers
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Adobe analytics report shoppers spent more than $23.6 billion
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Spent more than $23.6 billion online from black friday
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Online from black friday through cyber monday beating
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Through cyber monday beating expectations.
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Expectations. cyber monday shopping alone
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Cyber monday shopping alone topped $14 billion making it
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Topped $14 billion making it the biggest online shopping day
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The biggest online shopping day of the year.
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Of the year. wealthy shoppers drove most of
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Wealthy shoppers drove most of the cyber monday while lower
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The cyber monday while lower income consumers search deals
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Income consumers search deals for search for deals rather at
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For search for deals rather at target and walmart.
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Target and walmart. >> one remind can always get
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>> one remind can always get the latest from cbn news by
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The latest from cbn news by going to our website.
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Going to our website. >> it's cbn news.com.
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>> it's cbn news.com. andrew and ashley are back with
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Andrew and ashley are back with more of today's 700 club is
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More of today's 700 club is coming up right this important
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Review. >> just 800 2512911 802 512911
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>> just 800 2512911 802 512911 tomorrow a baby with a 2%
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Tomorrow a baby with a 2% chance of survival.
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Chance of survival. >> i heard that my mind just
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>> i heard that my mind just went completely blank.
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Went completely blank. dr. suggested one way forward.
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Dr. suggested one way forward. >> they told me that it's
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>> they told me that it's better to abort my baby.
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Better to abort my baby. >> one family's test of faith
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>> one family's test of faith god's here sprayers.
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God's here sprayers. >> that's for sure.
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>> that's for sure. and a divine delivery.
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And a divine delivery. that's what we've been waiting
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That's what we've been waiting for the whole time.
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For the whole time. >> tomorrow on the 700 fly.
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>> tomorrow on the 700 fly. >> a young woman from india
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>> a young woman from india lives painful isolation with
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Lives painful isolation with most of her face covered.
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Most of her face covered. her is so dire she's often
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Her is so dire she's often thought of killing herself.
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Thought of killing herself. >> durga lives in a small
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>> durga lives in a small village in india.
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Village in india. she's a deformed lower jaw
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She's a deformed lower jaw which her both physical and
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Which her both physical and emotional pain.
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Emotional pain. >> i have tried everything to
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>> i have tried everything to fix it at home but nothing
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Fix it at home but nothing worked.
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Worked. now my lower jaw swelled up and
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Now my lower jaw swelled up and it's really hard eat or even
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It's really hard eat or even drink water.
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Drink water. >> durga said she now lives in
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>> durga said she now lives in self-imposed isolation hiding
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Self-imposed isolation hiding the cruelty of the community.
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The cruelty of the community. >> what people say about face
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>> what people say about face is really hurtful.
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Is really hurtful. their words broke my heart.
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Their words broke my heart. it even made me question i
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It even made me question i could go on living.
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Could go on living. >> finally she courage to
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>> finally she courage to remove her face covering.
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Remove her face covering. during our interview with her
00:36:06.423 --> 00:36:11.295
During our interview with her have been times when i thought
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Have been times when i thought about killing durga told us.
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About killing durga told us. >> her family is poor and
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>> her family is poor and cannot afford surgery to repair
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Cannot afford surgery to repair her face and jaw so sits and
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Her face and jaw so sits and waits and hopes whenever i see
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Waits and hopes whenever i see people who look normal i wish i
00:36:26.911 --> 00:36:30.948
People who look normal i wish i could be like them to.
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Could be like them to. >> pretty woman like anyone
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>> pretty woman like anyone else.
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Else. >> it's hard to deal with the
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>> it's hard to deal with the depression especially when
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Depression especially when people bring up marriage.
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People bring up marriage. i can't even think about that.
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I can't even think about that. all i want is to have surgery.
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All i want is to have surgery. >> it my parents do not have
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>> it my parents do not have money for me.
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Money for me. durga heard about operation
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Durga heard about operation blessing.
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Blessing. thanks to your support we were
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Thanks to your support we were able to provide multiple free
00:36:57.508 --> 00:36:58.108
Able to provide multiple free surgeries, remove a benign
00:36:58.242 --> 00:37:01.078
Surgeries, remove a benign tumor and repair her face and
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Tumor and repair her face and jaw and this was the result.
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Jaw and this was the result. thanks to you i have now
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Thanks to you i have now started a whole new chapter in
00:37:09.720 --> 00:37:10.321
Started a whole new chapter in my life.
00:37:10.454 --> 00:37:10.654
My life. i'm thrilled.
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I'm thrilled. i keep looking at myself in the
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I keep looking at myself in the mirror because i can't believe
00:37:13.991 --> 00:37:17.061
Mirror because i can't believe how beautiful my face looks
00:37:17.194 --> 00:37:17.761
How beautiful my face looks now.
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Now. people who saw me after the
00:37:20.331 --> 00:37:21.165
People who saw me after the surgery don't even recognize me
00:37:21.298 --> 00:37:24.435
Surgery don't even recognize me .
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. i've been dressing up and going
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I've been dressing up and going to the market feeling confident
00:37:25.569 --> 00:37:28.472
To the market feeling confident and happy.
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And happy. >> durga says she now has a
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>> durga says she now has a happy life one that she never
00:37:29.873 --> 00:37:32.910
Happy life one that she never thought possible before.
00:37:33.043 --> 00:37:33.544
Thought possible before. >> i am really happy that i can
00:37:33.677 --> 00:37:36.714
>> i am really happy that i can eat and drink without any
00:37:36.847 --> 00:37:37.481
Eat and drink without any problems.
00:37:37.615 --> 00:37:40.084
Problems. >> now i want to express my
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>> now i want to express my sincere gratitude to all the
00:37:41.218 --> 00:37:43.821
Sincere gratitude to all the people who supported my
00:37:43.954 --> 00:37:44.455
People who supported my operation.
00:37:44.588 --> 00:37:47.091
Operation. thanks to you i have a brand
00:37:47.224 --> 00:37:48.125
Thanks to you i have a brand new life.
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New life. >> i don't know about you but
00:37:50.728 --> 00:37:51.629
>> i don't know about you but while durga story i mean you
00:37:51.762 --> 00:37:55.032
While durga story i mean you can just feel the pain that she
00:37:55.165 --> 00:37:58.302
Can just feel the pain that she was experiencing and then you
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Was experiencing and then you now get to experience the joy,
00:37:59.169 --> 00:38:02.606
Now get to experience the joy, the happiness and the hope that
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The happiness and the hope that she has now all because people
00:38:03.507 --> 00:38:06.543
She has now all because people like our cbn 700 club partners
00:38:06.677 --> 00:38:07.277
Like our cbn 700 club partners said yes i want to be a
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Said yes i want to be a blessing to others, to people
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Blessing to others, to people like durga who are in seemingly
00:38:11.849 --> 00:38:14.518
Like durga who are in seemingly hopeless situations and i to be
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Hopeless situations and i to be that blessing i want to be used
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That blessing i want to be used by jesus to help people in real
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By jesus to help people in real tangible ways.
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Tangible ways. knowing giving them the
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Knowing giving them the knowledge that there is a god
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Knowledge that there is a god who sees them and who loves
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Who sees them and who loves them, who has a hope and future
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Them, who has a hope and future for them and we see that so
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For them and we see that so beautifully in durga is and if
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Beautifully in durga is and if you're watching this and you're
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You're watching this and you're not a cbn 700 club partner i
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Not a cbn 700 club partner i would just encourage you to
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Would just encourage you to become one today.
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Become one today. a of every gift given to cbn
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A of every gift given to cbn goes into the work of operation
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Goes into the work of operation blessing and operation blessing
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Blessing and operation blessing international which helps
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International which helps provide life changing surgeries
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Provide life changing surgeries like you just saw in durga
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Like you just saw in durga story.
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Story. but operation blessing does so
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But operation blessing does so many other things they help
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Many other things they help provide clean water communities
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Provide clean water communities and nations around the world
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And nations around the world that do not have access to
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That do not have access to simple clean drinking water.
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Simple clean drinking water. they help provide food programs
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They help provide food programs disaster relief not just
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Disaster relief not just internationally but also right
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Internationally but also right in the us and they also help
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In the us and they also help orphans and widows.
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Orphans and widows. they they want to keep families
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They they want to keep families together as much as possible.
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Together as much as possible. so if you want to be a part of
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So if you want to be a part of everything cbn is doing around
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Everything cbn is doing around the world and you want to also
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The world and you want to also spread the message of jesus
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Spread the message of jesus around the world and really
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Around the world and really powerful ways become 700 club
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Powerful ways become 700 club partner it's really simple
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Partner it's really simple y'all.
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Y'all. all you have to do is give us a
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All you have to do is give us a call 1-800-700-7000.
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Call 1-800-700-7000. or you go to cbn.com or you can
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Or you go to cbn.com or you can do my personal favorite as i
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Do my personal favorite as i always like to say text again
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Always like to say text again just pull out your smartphone
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Just pull out your smartphone and text cbn to the number
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And text cbn to the number 71777.
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When you do that you're going to get a text message with a
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To get a text message with a link.
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Link. click link and it's going to
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Click link and it's going to send you over to our giving
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Send you over to our giving page where from there you can
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Page where from there you can choose whatever you would like
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Choose whatever you would like to become a cbn's 700 club
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To become a cbn's 700 club partner and whatever you choose
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Partner and whatever you choose to become a partner we're
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To become a partner we're actually going to send you
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Actually going to send you something in return.
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Something in return. this is our way of saying thank
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This is our way of saying thank you.
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You. thank you for partnering with
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Thank you for partnering with us.
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Us. thank you for choosing be a
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Thank you for choosing be a blessing to others around the
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Blessing to others around the world.
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World. this is our latest devotional
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This is our latest devotional teaching seven steps to
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Teaching seven steps to spiritual renewal.
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Spiritual renewal. it's a five day devotional.
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It's a five day devotional. it's going to take you through
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It's going to take you through these step seven steps that we
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These step seven steps that we believe just going to refresh
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Believe just going to refresh your faith and then you also
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Your faith and then you also get instant streaming to
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Get instant streaming to teachings from all the hosts of
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The 700 clubs going through those seven steps.
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Those seven steps. so if you want all of this and
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So if you want all of this and you want the assurance that you
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You want the assurance that you are helping people in real
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Are helping people in real tangible ways and you're
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Tangible ways and you're helping us spread the message
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Helping us spread the message of the gospel to the ends of
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Of the gospel to the ends of the earth, become a cbn club
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707,000 go to cbn.com, text cbn 271777 or scan that qr on your
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271777 or scan that qr on your screen and we just say thank
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Screen and we just say thank you and god bless you guys.
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You and god bless you guys. >> andrew all right, ashley.
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>> andrew all right, ashley. up next who i am if i got jesus
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Up next who i am if i got jesus ,if it were up to me these are
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,if it were up to me these are just a few of ben fuller's hit
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Just a few of ben fuller's hit songs.
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Songs. stay tuned for his one on
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Stay tuned for his one on one interview with ashley that
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One interview with ashley that is coming.
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Is coming. stay with us.
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Stay with us. >> i think everyone wants to be
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>> i think everyone wants to be renewed in some way, shape and
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Renewed in some way, shape and what better way for our
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What better way for our spiritual life to be be renewed
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Spiritual life to be be renewed for god to breathe new life on
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For god to breathe new life on your relationship him i know he
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Your relationship him i know he desires that for you and i
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Desires that for you and i really believe steps to
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Really believe steps to spiritual renewal will help you
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Spiritual renewal will help you be spiritually renewed in your
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Be spiritually renewed in your walk with jesus call or go
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Walk with jesus call or go online to get seven steps to
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Fire is the title of ben folders latest album.
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Folders latest album. it's also a description of his
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It's also a description of his life's journey so far and
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Life's journey so far and recently i had the privilege of
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Recently i had the privilege of sitting down with ben in
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Sitting down with ben in nashville to talk about his
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Nashville to talk about his rocky past and how it brought
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Rocky past and how it brought him to the feet of jesus.
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Him to the feet of jesus. ben fuller it is so mean i did
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Ben fuller it is so mean i did first and last name right
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First and last name right there.
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There. >> it is so good to chat with
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>> it is so good to chat with with you today.
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With you today. >> i'm so excited to have you.
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>> i'm so excited to have you. good to see you.
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Good to see you. >> when did you fall in love
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>> when did you fall in love with music and how did you
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With music and how did you learn how to play guitar and
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Learn how to play guitar and sing and all and all that?
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Sing and all and all that? you broke through thousand
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You broke through thousand fences i would sing in the face
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Fences i would sing in the face of trouble memories rescued
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Of trouble memories rescued from a thousand ditches and
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From a thousand ditches and when there was when there was a
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When there was when there was a worry when there was a doubt i
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Worry when there was a doubt i would sing wasn't until later
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Would sing wasn't until later in life 2017 18 when people
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In life 2017 18 when people really started my friends
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Really started my friends started me to sing you know to
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Started me to sing you know to make it to make a go at it
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Make it to make a go at it going out there.
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Going out there. >> so let's just go all the way
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>> so let's just go all the way back i mean how did you grow
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Back i mean how did you grow up?
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Up? >> church wasn't a that we did.
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>> church wasn't a that we did. jesus was a swear word you know
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Jesus was a swear word you know being raised a dairy farmer son
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Being raised a dairy farmer son there's just a lot of pressure
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There's just a lot of pressure to to work.
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To to work. >> my father and i had
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>> my father and i had relationship.
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Relationship. he just didn't show love well
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He just didn't show love well and he didn't know because his
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And he didn't know because his dad didn't show love.
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Dad didn't show love. well, it was this generational
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Well, it was this generational thing that down 16 years old
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Thing that down 16 years old came really close to suicide.
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Came really close to suicide. >> i just i realized like does
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>> i just i realized like does anybody love me?
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Anybody love me? >> am i loved by anybody?
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>> am i loved by anybody? i've got it all together on the
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I've got it all together on the outside but on the inside why
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Outside but on the inside why am i hurting?
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Am i hurting? why am i mess why am i trying
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Why am i mess why am i trying so hard?
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So hard? no one sees the real pain
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No one sees the real pain inside of me i believe god
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Inside of me i believe god knocked the gun from my hands
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Knocked the gun from my hands and i just didn't know it and i
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And i just didn't know it and i went on soon after to form a 14
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Went on soon after to form a 14 and a half year drug and
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And a half year drug and alcohol addiction.
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Alcohol addiction. i finally could not feel
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I finally could not feel anything numbed my life and i
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Anything numbed my life and i was able to to hide in plain
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Was able to to hide in plain sight.
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Sight. you've also shared before about
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You've also shared before about your best friend like your best
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Your best friend like your best friend to it as well i lost
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Friend to it as well i lost ryan and december 16th 2017 to
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Ryan and december 16th 2017 to heroin you know ron and i just
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Heroin you know ron and i just really like doing drugs
00:44:11.447 --> 00:44:11.914
Really like doing drugs together and we spent a lot of
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Together and we spent a lot of time together i really found
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Time together i really found someone who who who understood
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Someone who who who understood what i've been through.
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What i've been through. >> when did sobriety really
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>> when did sobriety really happen for you?
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Happen for you? it's almost like like getting
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It's almost like like getting pulled over.
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Pulled over. that was me with ryan.
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That was me with ryan. no more drugs, no more alcohol
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No more drugs, no more alcohol .
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. i don't want to die.
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I don't want to die. i don't don't want to die.
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I don't don't want to die. >> so i put the stuff down.
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>> so i put the stuff down. that was my attempt at trying
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That was my attempt at trying and it failed me.
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And it failed me. and believe it or not,
00:44:44.881 --> 00:44:45.415
And believe it or not, addiction follows you 1250
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Addiction follows you 1250 miles all the way from vermont
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Miles all the way from vermont down to nashville to what was
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Down to nashville to what was the turning point for you?
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The turning point for you? >> take us back to that moment
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>> take us back to that moment when you finally were like like
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When you finally were like like you said earlier, jesus, help
00:44:55.491 --> 00:44:56.125
You said earlier, jesus, help me and fully surrendered your
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Me and fully surrendered your life.
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Life. >> the davenport family they
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>> the davenport family they asked me if i if i go to church
00:45:02.965 --> 00:45:03.833
Asked me if i if i go to church with them the next i just shown
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With them the next i just shown respect.
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Respect. i was like yeah, i'll go to
00:45:07.537 --> 00:45:08.137
I was like yeah, i'll go to church with you guys.
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Church with you guys. sure not whatever and i, i
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Sure not whatever and i, i remember it just so vividly
00:45:11.674 --> 00:45:14.610
Remember it just so vividly that i heard the the music it
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That i heard the the music it just drew me in.
00:45:15.578 --> 00:45:18.614
Just drew me in. >> there were bridges crossed
00:45:18.748 --> 00:45:19.315
>> there were bridges crossed and after but living my life as
00:45:19.449 --> 00:45:23.052
And after but living my life as a secret drug addict is one an
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A secret drug addict is one an alcoholic and searching for
00:45:25.955 --> 00:45:29.859
Alcoholic and searching for that thing that i realized
00:45:29.992 --> 00:45:33.396
That thing that i realized standing in the back of that
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Standing in the back of that church that i had never been
00:45:34.263 --> 00:45:37.266
Church that i had never been higher in my entire life if i
00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:38.134
Higher in my entire life if i got jesus i'm gonna this is
00:45:38.267 --> 00:45:41.571
Got jesus i'm gonna this is exactly this is exactly what i
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Exactly this is exactly what i was looking for.
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Was looking for. his name was jesus and i heard
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His name was jesus and i heard the gospel for the first time
00:45:49.312 --> 00:45:51.414
The gospel for the first time and so i just surrendered
00:45:51.547 --> 00:45:52.081
And so i just surrendered everything and just gave it up
00:45:52.215 --> 00:45:52.849
Everything and just gave it up to him right there standing in
00:45:52.982 --> 00:45:54.684
To him right there standing in in the back of that church and
00:45:54.817 --> 00:45:55.551
In the back of that church and just said take it all, i'm just
00:45:55.685 --> 00:45:56.352
Just said take it all, i'm just done running and and deep
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Done running and and deep inside but joy that i couldn't
00:45:58.988 --> 00:46:01.624
Inside but joy that i couldn't what happened after those
00:46:01.757 --> 00:46:02.258
What happened after those months like was it hard for
00:46:02.391 --> 00:46:05.828
Months like was it hard for you?
00:46:05.962 --> 00:46:06.095
You? i wanted to run away.
00:46:06.229 --> 00:46:06.696
I wanted to run away. i want to make a bunch of us do
00:46:06.829 --> 00:46:09.198
I want to make a bunch of us do i wanted to pull a jonah.
00:46:09.332 --> 00:46:09.966
I wanted to pull a jonah. >> it was like every time i
00:46:10.099 --> 00:46:10.833
>> it was like every time i tried to run away it always
00:46:10.967 --> 00:46:12.869
Tried to run away it always just like i'm bringing you
00:46:13.002 --> 00:46:13.536
Just like i'm bringing you back.
00:46:13.669 --> 00:46:13.836
Back. >> i'm bringing you here.
00:46:13.970 --> 00:46:16.305
>> i'm bringing you here. and so he put me on a whole
00:46:16.439 --> 00:46:17.273
And so he put me on a whole nother path and it took a while
00:46:17.406 --> 00:46:20.576
Nother path and it took a while for for him to send me new
00:46:20.710 --> 00:46:21.410
For for him to send me new friends and families people who
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Friends and families people who loved me and not because they
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Loved me and not because they all loved me loved me but to
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All loved me loved me but to push me to the cross when.
00:46:31.754 --> 00:46:34.590
Push me to the cross when. did the transition happen in
00:46:34.724 --> 00:46:35.391
Did the transition happen in your music?
00:46:35.525 --> 00:46:35.791
Your music? so the transition the transfer
00:46:35.925 --> 00:46:38.728
So the transition the transfer station happened in your life
00:46:38.861 --> 00:46:39.495
Station happened in your life but when did that happen over
00:46:39.629 --> 00:46:40.296
But when did that happen over to no way it was immediate.
00:46:40.429 --> 00:46:43.065
To no way it was immediate. >> wow.
00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:43.399
>> wow. yeah, i was you just started
00:46:43.533 --> 00:46:44.100
Yeah, i was you just started writing that part was yeah,
00:46:44.233 --> 00:46:46.269
Writing that part was yeah, that part was overnight because
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That part was overnight because i got home from church sunday
00:46:47.136 --> 00:46:47.770
I got home from church sunday night.
00:46:47.904 --> 00:46:48.070
Night. i up monday morning and i had
00:46:48.204 --> 00:46:50.173
I up monday morning and i had written like the way had
00:46:50.306 --> 00:46:52.909
Written like the way had written redemption and jesus of
00:46:53.042 --> 00:46:56.979
Written redemption and jesus of jesus his ways his his glory
00:46:57.113 --> 00:47:01.050
Jesus his ways his his glory i've written down a bunch of
00:47:01.184 --> 00:47:01.751
I've written down a bunch of stuff on my phone.
00:47:01.884 --> 00:47:02.318
Stuff on my phone. >> it was like was a crazy
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>> it was like was a crazy thing.
00:47:05.588 --> 00:47:05.755
Thing. >> i was home and i was snuffed
00:47:05.888 --> 00:47:09.392
>> i was home and i was snuffed out nowhere.
00:47:09.525 --> 00:47:09.825
Out nowhere. what is the writing process for
00:47:09.959 --> 00:47:12.762
What is the writing process for you?
00:47:12.895 --> 00:47:13.029
You? my writing process is kind of
00:47:13.162 --> 00:47:13.763
My writing process is kind of just pray lord what do you want
00:47:13.896 --> 00:47:16.699
Just pray lord what do you want to say?
00:47:16.832 --> 00:47:17.033
To say? >> what would you like to do?
00:47:17.166 --> 00:47:17.767
>> what would you like to do? what would you like to tell
00:47:17.900 --> 00:47:20.303
What would you like to tell them through me?
00:47:20.436 --> 00:47:20.770
Them through me? how can i partner with you?
00:47:20.903 --> 00:47:21.470
How can i partner with you? how can i help tell people
00:47:21.604 --> 00:47:23.773
How can i help tell people about what you do heavy for my
00:47:23.906 --> 00:47:34.016
About what you do heavy for my the new album talk about the
00:47:34.150 --> 00:47:34.784
The new album talk about the new album you got a song up
00:47:34.917 --> 00:47:37.853
New album you got a song up there with carrie underwood.
00:47:37.987 --> 00:47:38.588
There with carrie underwood. >> how did that even happen?
00:47:38.721 --> 00:47:39.288
>> how did that even happen? yeah, yeah.
00:47:39.422 --> 00:47:41.591
Yeah, yeah. >> know i really don't on this
00:47:41.724 --> 00:47:42.558
>> know i really don't on this day i don't know.
00:47:42.692 --> 00:47:43.059
Day i don't know. so trying to figure that
00:47:43.192 --> 00:47:46.095
So trying to figure that one out myself the lord a lot
00:47:46.229 --> 00:47:46.929
One out myself the lord a lot through fire yeah.
00:47:47.063 --> 00:47:49.265
Through fire yeah. his name is jesus walk through
00:47:49.398 --> 00:47:50.032
His name is jesus walk through fire and just great.
00:47:50.166 --> 00:47:52.969
Fire and just great. >> there's so many things i
00:47:53.102 --> 00:47:53.736
>> there's so many things i could say about it.
00:47:53.869 --> 00:47:56.105
Could say about it. i just am honored to have had
00:47:56.239 --> 00:47:57.039
I just am honored to have had the best in nashville the most
00:47:57.173 --> 00:48:00.610
The best in nashville the most incredible musicians that you
00:48:00.743 --> 00:48:03.879
Incredible musicians that you hear on every country hit have
00:48:04.013 --> 00:48:07.149
Hear on every country hit have played on that record.
00:48:07.283 --> 00:48:07.750
Played on that record. sam who we took a chance on to
00:48:07.883 --> 00:48:11.988
Sam who we took a chance on to produce this thing just knocked
00:48:12.121 --> 00:48:15.391
Produce this thing just knocked it out the park to wind up in a
00:48:15.524 --> 00:48:16.525
It out the park to wind up in a studio singing about his love
00:48:16.659 --> 00:48:22.632
Studio singing about his love knowing that she loves jesus.
00:48:22.765 --> 00:48:23.366
Knowing that she loves jesus. >> yeah, i like it easy but
00:48:23.499 --> 00:48:26.769
>> yeah, i like it easy but that's not how it's been.
00:48:26.902 --> 00:48:27.403
That's not how it's been. >> and through years of an
00:48:27.536 --> 00:48:30.773
>> and through years of an incredible career for her that
00:48:30.906 --> 00:48:31.507
Incredible career for her that she still puts all of her trust
00:48:31.641 --> 00:48:34.810
She still puts all of her trust in him and it i look to her as
00:48:34.944 --> 00:48:38.481
In him and it i look to her as inspiration for my 20 year
00:48:38.614 --> 00:48:41.751
Inspiration for my 20 year career that i might not give up
00:48:41.884 --> 00:48:42.718
Career that i might not give up because jesus didn't we both
00:48:42.852 --> 00:48:46.789
Because jesus didn't we both know if it was up to me with
00:48:46.922 --> 00:48:50.259
Know if it was up to me with everything that you're doing
00:48:50.393 --> 00:48:50.960
Everything that you're doing what your hope and prayer for
00:48:51.093 --> 00:48:54.163
What your hope and prayer for all the music, all the what
00:48:54.297 --> 00:48:57.967
All the music, all the what them not shows but for real
00:48:58.100 --> 00:48:58.701
Them not shows but for real reals what do you want people
00:48:58.834 --> 00:49:01.470
Reals what do you want people to just walk away with?
00:49:01.604 --> 00:49:02.104
To just walk away with? >> how's it going out there
00:49:02.238 --> 00:49:05.074
>> how's it going out there acting.
00:49:05.207 --> 00:49:05.408
Acting. i really feel like god keeps
00:49:05.541 --> 00:49:09.078
I really feel like god keeps bringing me back to that moment
00:49:09.211 --> 00:49:09.879
Bringing me back to that moment that i walked into church and i
00:49:10.012 --> 00:49:12.815
That i walked into church and i was too afraid to go to the
00:49:12.948 --> 00:49:13.549
Was too afraid to go to the front and so i just stood in
00:49:13.683 --> 00:49:14.283
Front and so i just stood in the back and so think that this
00:49:14.417 --> 00:49:16.886
The back and so think that this is this music maybe is for all
00:49:17.019 --> 00:49:20.189
Is this music maybe is for all the people that are standing in
00:49:20.323 --> 00:49:20.990
The people that are standing in the back that that are nervous
00:49:21.123 --> 00:49:23.993
The back that that are nervous maybe to go to the front and
00:49:24.126 --> 00:49:24.927
Maybe to go to the front and they're standing there needing
00:49:25.061 --> 00:49:28.331
They're standing there needing help and and and nobody sees
00:49:28.464 --> 00:49:32.401
Help and and and nobody sees them in the back but god does
00:49:32.535 --> 00:49:35.471
Them in the back but god does because jesus loves you like
00:49:35.604 --> 00:49:36.305
Because jesus loves you like she i absolutely loved getting
00:49:36.439 --> 00:49:47.683
She i absolutely loved getting to just sit and chat with ben
00:49:47.817 --> 00:49:48.417
To just sit and chat with ben and just hear and hear his past
00:49:48.551 --> 00:49:50.920
And just hear and hear his past and hear about his
00:49:51.053 --> 00:49:51.554
And hear about his transformation i love what he
00:49:51.687 --> 00:49:55.124
Transformation i love what he said at the end when i asked
00:49:55.257 --> 00:49:55.825
Said at the end when i asked him, you know, what do you want
00:49:55.958 --> 00:49:58.361
Him, you know, what do you want to take away from all the
00:49:58.494 --> 00:49:59.195
To take away from all the things that you do?
00:49:59.328 --> 00:49:59.729
Things that you do? and he said he goes back moment
00:49:59.862 --> 00:50:02.231
And he said he goes back moment where he was standing at the
00:50:02.365 --> 00:50:02.965
Where he was standing at the back of the church and he felt
00:50:03.099 --> 00:50:06.268
Back of the church and he felt the presence of god call him
00:50:06.402 --> 00:50:09.839
The presence of god call him into a relationship with the
00:50:09.972 --> 00:50:12.775
Into a relationship with the one true god and i.
00:50:12.908 --> 00:50:16.145
One true god and i. i just feel like there's a lot
00:50:16.278 --> 00:50:17.012
I just feel like there's a lot of people watching right now
00:50:17.146 --> 00:50:17.713
Of people watching right now and that might be you.
00:50:17.847 --> 00:50:18.347
And that might be you. you might consider yourself
00:50:18.481 --> 00:50:20.316
You might consider yourself maybe a black sheep of your
00:50:20.449 --> 00:50:21.016
Maybe a black sheep of your family.
00:50:21.150 --> 00:50:21.350
Family. maybe you're somebody and maybe
00:50:21.484 --> 00:50:23.686
Maybe you're somebody and maybe you go to church sometimes and
00:50:23.819 --> 00:50:24.453
You go to church sometimes and when you do you don't really
00:50:24.587 --> 00:50:25.187
When you do you don't really talk to people and you sit at
00:50:25.321 --> 00:50:28.190
Talk to people and you sit at the back of the church or you
00:50:28.324 --> 00:50:28.958
The back of the church or you just try to try to almost be
00:50:29.091 --> 00:50:31.494
Just try to try to almost be invisible.
00:50:31.627 --> 00:50:31.861
Invisible. but let me tell you something
00:50:31.994 --> 00:50:32.595
But let me tell you something you're invisible to god.
00:50:32.728 --> 00:50:35.331
You're invisible to god. he sees you.
00:50:35.464 --> 00:50:35.765
He sees you. he's you even before you were
00:50:35.898 --> 00:50:39.034
He's you even before you were knit together in your mother's
00:50:39.168 --> 00:50:41.804
Knit together in your mother's and even before then he had a
00:50:41.937 --> 00:50:42.938
And even before then he had a plan and a purpose for you
00:50:43.072 --> 00:50:46.642
Plan and a purpose for you because he loves you so much
00:50:46.776 --> 00:50:50.112
Because he loves you so much that he sent his one and only
00:50:50.246 --> 00:50:50.880
That he sent his one and only son to die on a cross for you
00:50:51.013 --> 00:50:53.716
Son to die on a cross for you so that you would be forgiven
00:50:53.849 --> 00:50:54.450
So that you would be forgiven of your sins and that you would
00:50:54.583 --> 00:50:57.553
Of your sins and that you would be made right in a relationship
00:50:57.686 --> 00:50:58.320
Be made right in a relationship with him that you could come to
00:50:58.454 --> 00:51:01.690
With him that you could come to jesus just like ben did and
00:51:01.824 --> 00:51:02.391
Jesus just like ben did and just say jesus i want you and i
00:51:02.525 --> 00:51:06.128
Just say jesus i want you and i need you.
00:51:06.262 --> 00:51:08.964
Need you. it's a simple gospel but it's
00:51:09.098 --> 00:51:09.999
It's a simple gospel but it's profound and powerful and
00:51:10.132 --> 00:51:13.502
Profound and powerful and transformational and all to do
00:51:13.636 --> 00:51:17.139
Transformational and all to do is cry out to god, cry out him
00:51:17.273 --> 00:51:20.943
Is cry out to god, cry out him today he's been waiting for you
00:51:21.076 --> 00:51:21.710
Today he's been waiting for you to do that he's been waiting
00:51:21.844 --> 00:51:24.947
To do that he's been waiting for the moment where jesus, i
00:51:25.080 --> 00:51:29.251
For the moment where jesus, i need you in my life.
00:51:29.385 --> 00:51:32.521
Need you in my life. >> and i also feel like the
00:51:32.655 --> 00:51:33.422
>> and i also feel like the holy spirit wants you to know
00:51:33.556 --> 00:51:34.156
Holy spirit wants you to know that the things that you're
00:51:34.290 --> 00:51:36.859
That the things that you're trying to numb with drugs and
00:51:36.992 --> 00:51:37.593
Trying to numb with drugs and alcohol and pornography and and
00:51:37.726 --> 00:51:40.029
Alcohol and pornography and and sex and all these different
00:51:40.162 --> 00:51:40.729
Sex and all these different things that the world offers
00:51:40.863 --> 00:51:43.933
Things that the world offers and makes you believe that it's
00:51:44.066 --> 00:51:44.700
And makes you believe that it's going to give you peace and joy
00:51:44.834 --> 00:51:45.468
Going to give you peace and joy and maybe it does momentarily
00:51:45.601 --> 00:51:47.770
And maybe it does momentarily but those things that you are
00:51:47.903 --> 00:51:48.504
But those things that you are using to numb your pain jesus
00:51:48.637 --> 00:51:51.774
Using to numb your pain jesus wants to heal and he can heal
00:51:51.907 --> 00:51:55.544
Wants to heal and he can heal those things but it happens
00:51:55.678 --> 00:51:58.814
Those things but it happens when you fully surrender to him
00:51:58.948 --> 00:52:02.685
When you fully surrender to him when you just lay it down the
00:52:02.818 --> 00:52:06.055
When you just lay it down the foot of the cross and you say
00:52:06.188 --> 00:52:07.089
Foot of the cross and you say have your way.
00:52:07.223 --> 00:52:10.159
Have your way. king jesus.
00:52:10.292 --> 00:52:10.559
King jesus. so we've a couple of minutes
00:52:10.693 --> 00:52:14.063
So we've a couple of minutes left in this program and i
00:52:14.196 --> 00:52:14.730
Left in this program and i would just love to pray for you
00:52:14.864 --> 00:52:16.966
Would just love to pray for you to pray for you to know that
00:52:17.099 --> 00:52:17.933
To pray for you to know that jesus sees to pray and invite
00:52:18.067 --> 00:52:21.937
Jesus sees to pray and invite you to give your life to jesus
00:52:22.071 --> 00:52:25.007
You to give your life to jesus because once you do the very
00:52:25.140 --> 00:52:25.741
Because once you do the very best is yet to come for just
00:52:25.875 --> 00:52:28.711
Best is yet to come for just pray with me right now.
00:52:28.844 --> 00:52:29.345
Pray with me right now. don't hesitate.
00:52:29.478 --> 00:52:29.812
Don't hesitate. just do it right now.
00:52:29.945 --> 00:52:30.412
Just do it right now. heavenly father, i cry out to
00:52:30.546 --> 00:52:32.681
Heavenly father, i cry out to you.
00:52:32.815 --> 00:52:36.151
You. i have felt invisible my whole
00:52:36.285 --> 00:52:37.019
I have felt invisible my whole life but in this moment that
00:52:37.152 --> 00:52:39.989
Life but in this moment that you've seen me every second of
00:52:40.122 --> 00:52:42.725
You've seen me every second of every day of my whole life and
00:52:42.858 --> 00:52:43.592
Every day of my whole life and today jesus i choose to make
00:52:43.726 --> 00:52:46.862
Today jesus i choose to make you my lord and my savior today
00:52:46.996 --> 00:52:50.633
You my lord and my savior today king jesus i choose to turn
00:52:50.766 --> 00:52:51.333
King jesus i choose to turn from my wicked ways and to turn
00:52:51.467 --> 00:52:54.770
From my wicked ways and to turn to look to you my savior god.
00:52:54.904 --> 00:52:58.140
To look to you my savior god. thank you.
00:52:58.274 --> 00:52:58.541
Thank you. i'm asking for the forgiveness
00:52:58.674 --> 00:53:02.044
I'm asking for the forgiveness my sins and i thank you that in
00:53:02.177 --> 00:53:03.012
My sins and i thank you that in spite of the life, death and
00:53:03.145 --> 00:53:03.879
Spite of the life, death and resurrection that i am forgiven
00:53:04.013 --> 00:53:08.951
Resurrection that i am forgiven make me new today would you i
00:53:09.084 --> 00:53:09.818
Make me new today would you i invite you into the places of
00:53:09.952 --> 00:53:13.055
Invite you into the places of my life of my in my heart and
00:53:13.188 --> 00:53:13.956
My life of my in my heart and in my mind that i've numbing
00:53:14.089 --> 00:53:16.592
In my mind that i've numbing for so long jesus, i'm asking
00:53:16.725 --> 00:53:20.296
For so long jesus, i'm asking you to heal those places thank
00:53:20.429 --> 00:53:21.230
You to heal those places thank you lord in jesus name amen and
00:53:21.363 --> 00:53:24.600
You lord in jesus name amen and amen and lord i just my
00:53:24.733 --> 00:53:28.270
Amen and lord i just my brothers and sisters who might
00:53:28.404 --> 00:53:28.971
Brothers and sisters who might have just given their life to
00:53:29.104 --> 00:53:29.705
Have just given their life to you lord would send people into
00:53:29.838 --> 00:53:32.441
You lord would send people into their lives brothers in christ
00:53:32.575 --> 00:53:36.278
Their lives brothers in christ that are going to help them on
00:53:36.412 --> 00:53:37.046
That are going to help them on this new faith journey in jesus
00:53:37.179 --> 00:53:40.115
This new faith journey in jesus name amen and amen.
00:53:40.249 --> 00:53:40.649
Name amen and amen. well, friends, we've got some
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Well, friends, we've got some amazing free resources for you
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Amazing free resources for you that are going to help you on
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That are going to help you on this faith journey.
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This faith journey. it is a journey so get these
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It is a journey so get these resources.
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Resources. give us a call.
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Give us a call. let somebody know that you just
00:53:49.558 --> 00:53:50.225
Let somebody know that you just gave your your life to jesus
00:53:50.359 --> 00:53:52.027
Gave your your life to jesus and we would love to give you
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And we would love to give you those resources.
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Those resources. god bless you guys.
00:53:53.429 --> 00:53:53.996
God bless you guys. the best is yet to come
00:53:54.129 --> 00:54:01.437
The best is yet to come tomorrow a baby with a 2%
00:54:01.570 --> 00:54:05.541
Tomorrow a baby with a 2% chance of survival when i heard
00:54:05.674 --> 00:54:09.612
Chance of survival when i heard that my mind just went
00:54:09.745 --> 00:54:10.245
That my mind just went completely blank.
00:54:10.379 --> 00:54:10.746
Completely blank. >> dr. suggested one way
00:54:10.879 --> 00:54:13.215
>> dr. suggested one way forward.
00:54:13.349 --> 00:54:13.549
Forward. >> they told me that it's
00:54:13.682 --> 00:54:16.685
>> they told me that it's better to abort my baby.
00:54:16.819 --> 00:54:17.319
Better to abort my baby. >> family's test of faith god's
00:54:17.453 --> 00:54:20.189
>> family's test of faith god's here sprayers, that's for sure
00:54:20.322 --> 00:54:24.059
Here sprayers, that's for sure and a divine delivery.
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And a divine delivery. that's what been waiting for
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December 3, 2025

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