February 13, 2026

February 13, 2026 | 52:26

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  • . >> the following program by
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  • >> the following program by cbn.
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  • Cbn. >> coming up this husband
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  • >> coming up this husband strayed.
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  • Strayed. >> somebody looked at at me
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  • >> somebody looked at at me with desire and his wife had
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  • With desire and his wife had the proof.
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  • The proof. >> i was ready to pack up and
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  • >> i was ready to pack up and go.
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  • Go. why?
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  • Why? she held on to the evidence.
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  • She held on to the evidence. >> i feel burdened.
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  • >> i feel burdened. i feel alone.
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  • I feel alone. i feel isolated.
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  • I feel isolated. and what happened when she
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  • And what happened when she dropped the bomb?
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  • Dropped the bomb? my thought process was is it
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  • My thought process was is it over?
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  • Over? can it be fixed?
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  • Can it be fixed? coming up on the 700 club.
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  • Coming up on the 700 club. >> oh, welcome to hundred club.
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  • >> oh, welcome to hundred club. the world is focused on a
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  • The world is focused on a possible us strike.
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  • Possible us strike. at the same time, israel is
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  • At the same time, israel is preparing for a for a potential
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  • Preparing for a for a potential attack of its own against hamas
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  • Attack of its own against hamas in gaza.
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  • In gaza. >> israel believes hamas cannot
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  • >> israel believes hamas cannot be disarmed without military
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  • Be disarmed without military action.
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  • Action. cbn's paul petty brings us the
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  • Cbn's paul petty brings us the story from jerusalem.
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  • Story from jerusalem. >> escorted by the israeli
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  • >> escorted by the israeli defense forces cbn news visited
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  • Defense forces cbn news visited an outpost in central gaza just
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  • An outpost in central gaza just 200 yards from the yellow line
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  • 200 yards from the yellow line dividing gaza between and
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  • Dividing gaza between and palestinian control.
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  • Palestinian control. it's a place where our say
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  • It's a place where our say hamas skirmishes and attacks
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  • Hamas skirmishes and attacks occur despite the cease fire.
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  • Occur despite the cease fire. >> in this area specifically
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  • >> in this area specifically across the line, hamas keeps
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  • Across the line, hamas keeps passing the yellow a daily
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  • Passing the yellow a daily basis testing our troops, even
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  • Basis testing our troops, even carrying out attacks just this
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  • Carrying out attacks just this this week severely injuring
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  • This week severely injuring one of our troops.
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  • One of our troops. >> the objective is for these
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  • >> the objective is for these israeli soldiers are defending
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  • Israeli soldiers are defending the yellow line and finding
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  • The yellow line and finding then dismantling hamas's vast
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  • Then dismantling hamas's vast tunnel network where more half
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  • Tunnel network where more half have yet to be discovered.
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  • Have yet to be discovered. >> this is maybe largest terror
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  • >> this is maybe largest terror tunnel infrastructure in
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  • Tunnel infrastructure in history and this is something
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  • History and this is something is something that's going to
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  • Is something that's going to take time to find all of it and
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  • Take time to find all of it and to deal with all of it.
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  • To deal with all of it. and we're not even even talking
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  • And we're not even even talking about the tunnels that are
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  • About the tunnels that are across the m1 and we are not
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  • Across the m1 and we are not dealing with them right now.
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  • Dealing with them right now. here in gaza, implementing the
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  • Here in gaza, implementing the disarmament of hamas has
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  • Disarmament of hamas has remained unclear with israeli
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  • Remained unclear with israeli officials increasingly
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  • Officials increasingly believing they are stripping
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  • Believing they are stripping the terror group of its weapons
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  • The terror group of its weapons will be impossible without the
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  • Will be impossible without the idf taking military action.
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  • Idf taking military action. one thing is clear they do not
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  • One thing is clear they do not want to disarm even they are
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  • Want to disarm even they are committed to it and someone
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  • Committed to it and someone needs to make them.
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  • Needs to make them. >> jerusalem prime netanyahu
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  • >> jerusalem prime netanyahu returned from his seventh
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  • Returned from his seventh meeting with president trump
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  • Meeting with president trump saying he's skeptical a good
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  • Saying he's skeptical a good deal could be worked out with
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  • Deal could be worked out with with iran.
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  • With iran. >> emma can you sug if indeed
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  • >> emma can you sug if indeed an agreement is then it must
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  • An agreement is then it must include the elements that are
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  • Include the elements that are very important from from
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  • Very important from from israel's perspective and in my
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  • Israel's perspective and in my view not only it is not only
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  • View not only it is not only the nuclear issue, it is also
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  • The nuclear issue, it is also the ballistic and also the
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  • The ballistic and also the iranian proxies.
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  • Iranian proxies. >> while the groundwork with
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  • >> while the groundwork with iran continue, the israeli navy
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  • Iran continue, the israeli navy is conducting drills its
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  • Is conducting drills its warships.
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  • Warships. while president trump confirmed
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  • While president trump confirmed through a post on that a second
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  • Through a post on that a second aircraft carrier is being
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  • Aircraft carrier is being deployed east we have to make a
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  • Deployed east we have to make a deal otherwise it's going to be
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  • Deal otherwise it's going to be very traumatic, very traumatic.
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  • Very traumatic, very traumatic. i don't want that to happen but
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  • I don't want that to happen but we have to have to make a deal.
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  • We have to have to make a deal. they should have made a deal
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  • They should have made a deal the first time and they got
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  • The first time and they got midnight hammer and said the
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  • Midnight hammer and said the trump administration has denied
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  • Trump administration has denied stirring protest in iran but
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  • Stirring protest in iran but did admit it smuggled thousands
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  • Did admit it smuggled thousands of starlink terminals into the
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  • Of starlink terminals into the country to counter the internet
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  • Country to counter the internet blackout imposed by the regime.
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  • Blackout imposed by the regime. paul petite cbn news jerusalem.
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  • Paul petite cbn news jerusalem. >> well this is definitely
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  • >> well this is definitely decision time for the middle
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  • Decision time for the middle east.
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  • East. what's going to happen to the
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  • What's going to happen to the government in iran.
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  • Government in iran. is there going to be further
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  • Is there going to be further negotiations?
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  • Negotiations? is going to be a u.s. strike in
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  • Is going to be a u.s. strike in my view that they on and the
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  • My view that they on and the people of iran have have cried
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  • People of iran have have cried out for freedom.
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  • Out for freedom. they've attempted five
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  • They've attempted five different revolutions just in
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  • Different revolutions just in the past decade.
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  • The past decade. you look at that and go it's
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  • You look at that and go it's time for them to be free in
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  • Time for them to be free in gaza.
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  • Gaza. >> gaza needs to have no
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  • >> gaza needs to have no military at all and to say it's
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  • Military at all and to say it's okay for hamas to to have
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  • Okay for hamas to to have weapons and for them to rearm,
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  • Weapons and for them to rearm, we know exactly what they're
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  • We know exactly what they're going going to do.
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  • Going going to do. they're going to attack israel
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  • They're going to attack israel again.
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  • Again. they changed their thoughts at
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  • They changed their thoughts at all about israel and and they
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  • All about israel and and they want to wipe israel off the
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  • Want to wipe israel off the map.
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  • Map. they shouldn't ever have any
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  • They shouldn't ever have any weapons to actually accomplish
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  • Weapons to actually accomplish that.
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  • That. >> well, another the department
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  • >> well, another the department of homeland security is headed
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  • Of homeland security is headed for a shutdown.
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  • For a shutdown. from graham has that story.
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  • From graham has that story. more from the cbn newsroom.
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  • More from the cbn newsroom. >> gordon the partial shutdown
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  • >> gordon the partial shutdown appears members of congress
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  • Appears members of congress left washington for a ten day
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  • Left washington for a ten day recess a deal.
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  • Recess a deal. cbn's white house correspondent
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  • Cbn's white house correspondent kelly wright has a closer look
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  • Kelly wright has a closer look .
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  • . >> the political stalemate
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  • >> the political stalemate democrats bills on thursday
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  • Democrats bills on thursday they're insisting on strict
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  • They're insisting on strict reform protocols following two
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  • Reform protocols following two fatal shootings by federal
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  • Fatal shootings by federal agents in minneapolis last
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  • Agents in minneapolis last month.
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  • Month. >> the americans are tired of
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  • >> the americans are tired of masked agents conducting
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  • Masked agents conducting warrantless operations in their
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  • Warrantless operations in their community as secret police.
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  • Community as secret police. they're tired of chaos, secrecy
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  • They're tired of chaos, secrecy and zero accountability.
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  • And zero accountability. that is not what law and order
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  • That is not what law and order looks like.
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  • Looks like. >> democrats want ice agents to
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  • >> democrats want ice agents to have better to stop wearing
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  • Have better to stop wearing mask use body cameras of
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  • Mask use body cameras of judicial warrants.
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  • Judicial warrants. republicans and president trump
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  • Republicans and president trump have rejected the democrats
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  • Have rejected the democrats demands believing conditions
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  • Demands believing conditions would hinder law enforcement.
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  • Would hinder law enforcement. on thursday, border czar tom
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  • On thursday, border czar tom homan announced the ice
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  • Homan announced the ice operation in minneapolis is
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  • Operation in minneapolis is over after more than 4000
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  • Over after more than 4000 arrests.
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  • Arrests. >> we've had great success with
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  • >> we've had great success with this operation and we're
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  • This operation and we're leaving minnesota safer.
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  • Leaving minnesota safer. the surge is leaving minnesota
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  • The surge is leaving minnesota safer.
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  • Safer. minneapolis safer because of
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  • Minneapolis safer because of the cooperative we got with the
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  • The cooperative we got with the counties in the state and local
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  • Counties in the state and local law law enforcer responding to
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  • Law law enforcer responding to our needs.
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  • Our needs. i'll say it again it's less of
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  • I'll say it again it's less of a sanctuary state for
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  • A sanctuary state for criminals.
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  • Criminals. >> homeland security secretary
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  • >> homeland security secretary noem is concerned about the
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  • Noem is concerned about the impact the shutdown have.
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  • Impact the shutdown have. >> she thinks it sends the
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  • >> she thinks it sends the wrong message.
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  • Wrong message. when you think it every other
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  • When you think it every other portion of the federal
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  • Portion of the federal government has been funded
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  • Government has been funded except homeland security that's
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  • Except homeland security that's telling the rest of the world
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  • Telling the rest of the world the democrat party doesn't
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  • The democrat party doesn't doesn't think that protecting
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  • Doesn't think that protecting america is safe.
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  • America is safe. >> if the partial shutdown
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  • >> if the partial shutdown happens, tsa workers.
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  • Happens, tsa workers. fema the coast guard
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  • Fema the coast guard cybersecurity operations.
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  • Cybersecurity operations. but core ice and customs border
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  • But core ice and customs border patrol will continue operations
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  • Patrol will continue operations under separate.
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  • Under separate. members of congress leaving
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  • Members of congress leaving town are on strike to to
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  • Town are on strike to to washington sooner if a deal can
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  • Washington sooner if a deal can be reached.
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  • Be reached. >> wright cbn news.
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  • >> wright cbn news. turning turning now to an issue
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  • Turning turning now to an issue that's become a hot topic in
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  • That's become a hot topic in recent years we could see a
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  • Recent years we could see a major turning point in the
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  • Major turning point in the controversy over transgender
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  • Controversy over transgender surgeries for minors.
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  • Surgeries for minors. a second major medical group
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  • A second major medical group has changed its position on
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  • Has changed its position on children going through these
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  • Children going through these surgeries and now advises
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  • Surgeries and now advises against it.
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  • Against it. >> cbn's medical reporter lori
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  • >> cbn's medical reporter lori johnson has this story.
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  • Johnson has this story. >> in the us it's estimated
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  • >> in the us it's estimated that each year a thousand girls
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  • That each year a thousand girls seeking to become boys have
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  • Seeking to become boys have their surgically removed.
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  • Their surgically removed. the number of procedures could
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  • The number of procedures could see a drop.
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  • See a drop. now that the group representing
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  • Now that the group representing over 90% of all plastic
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  • Over 90% of all plastic surgeons recommends against
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  • Surgeons recommends against such surgeries, the asps
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  • Such surgeries, the asps recommends should delay gender
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  • Recommends should delay gender related chest genital facial
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  • Related chest genital facial surgery until the patient is 19
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  • Surgery until the patient is 19 years old, adding a substantial
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  • Years old, adding a substantial proportion of children
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  • Proportion of children experience resolution or
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  • Experience resolution or significant reduction of
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  • Significant reduction of distress by the time they reach
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  • Distress by the time they reach adulthood.
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  • Adulthood. medical or surgical
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  • Medical or surgical intervention the trump trump
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  • Intervention the trump trump administration applauded the
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  • Administration applauded the move, saying future doctors
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  • Move, saying future doctors will will look back on sex
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  • Will will look back on sex rejecting procedures for
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  • Rejecting procedures for minors.
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  • Minors. the way we look back on
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  • The way we look back on lobotomies surgeon and
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  • Lobotomies surgeon and transgender whistleblower dr.
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  • Transgender whistleblower dr. anton heim agrees.
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  • Anton heim agrees. >> the form of justice that can
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  • >> the form of justice that can be done is for the people
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  • Be done is for the people responsible for this to go to
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  • Responsible for this to go to prison to have such
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  • Prison to have such consequences that they spend
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  • Consequences that they spend the rest of their life in a
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  • The rest of their life in a cage because what they did to
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  • Cage because what they did to these children in these
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  • These children in these vulnerable adults can never be
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  • Vulnerable adults can never be forgiven.
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  • Forgiven. they can seek forgiveness from
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  • They can seek forgiveness from higher power.
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  • Higher power. but it's our responsibility as
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  • But it's our responsibility as a civilized society to put
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  • A civilized society to put these people in the cage for
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  • These people in the cage for their crimes.
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  • Their crimes. >> dr. heim could be a
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  • >> dr. heim could be a watershed moment.
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  • Watershed moment. >> so it's like it's like the
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  • >> so it's like it's like the house of cards.
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  • House of cards. you know, once you start
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  • You know, once you start pulling out the aces in kings
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  • Pulling out the aces in kings from the base everything starts
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  • From the base everything starts falling.
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  • Falling. the day after the plastic
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  • The day after the plastic surgeons issued their their
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  • Surgeons issued their their statement the american medical
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  • Statement the american medical association stated surgical ill
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  • Association stated surgical ill interventions on minors should
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  • Interventions on minors should be generally deferred to
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  • Be generally deferred to adulthood and granted it was
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  • Adulthood and granted it was very tepid.
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  • Very tepid. >> but the fact that they even
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  • >> but the fact that they even entertained any any type of
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  • Entertained any any type of skepticism is a monumental
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  • Skepticism is a monumental victory.
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  • Victory. >> nevertheless, dr. heim
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  • >> nevertheless, dr. heim believes the american academy
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  • Believes the american academy of pediatrics and other groups
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  • Of pediatrics and other groups will continue to support sex
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  • Will continue to support sex change interventions on minors
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  • Change interventions on minors hormones and surgery because
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  • Hormones and surgery because their guilt is so deep that for
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  • Their guilt is so deep that for to acknowledge that they did
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  • To acknowledge that they did something wrong is to admit
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  • Something wrong is to admit open themselves up for not only
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  • Open themselves up for not only like this deep sense of moral
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  • Like this deep sense of moral failure but also a massive
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  • Failure but also a massive amount legal liability that
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  • Amount legal liability that could be part of the motivation
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  • Could be part of the motivation as before the plastic surgeon
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  • As before the plastic surgeon group issued its statement a
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  • Group issued its statement a jury handed down new york's
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  • Jury handed down new york's malpractice verdict against a
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  • Malpractice verdict against a plastic surgeon and.
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  • Plastic surgeon and. a jury awarded foxx's variant
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  • A jury awarded foxx's variant of yorktown heights $2 million
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  • Of yorktown heights $2 million in damages a double mastectomy
  • 00:09:57.555 --> 00:10:00.658
  • In damages a double mastectomy she received at 16 then later
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  • She received at 16 then later regretted.
  • 00:10:03.661 --> 00:10:03.894
  • Regretted. >> many of these individual are
  • 00:10:04.028 --> 00:10:08.466
  • >> many of these individual are now irreversibly sterile.
  • 00:10:08.599 --> 00:10:09.133
  • Now irreversibly sterile. they cannot go back.
  • 00:10:09.266 --> 00:10:09.700
  • They cannot go back. they'll never children and much
  • 00:10:09.834 --> 00:10:12.069
  • They'll never children and much of their future was from them.
  • 00:10:12.203 --> 00:10:16.040
  • Of their future was from them. >> psychologist joseph nicholas
  • 00:10:16.173 --> 00:10:16.807
  • >> psychologist joseph nicholas says to colleagues talk
  • 00:10:16.941 --> 00:10:19.844
  • Says to colleagues talk children and their parents into
  • 00:10:19.977 --> 00:10:20.578
  • Children and their parents into trans.
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  • Trans. >> the only thing that's going
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  • >> the only thing that's going to really really change this
  • 00:10:24.915 --> 00:10:25.516
  • To really really change this around profession is going to
  • 00:10:25.649 --> 00:10:28.185
  • Around profession is going to be a class where many young
  • 00:10:28.319 --> 00:10:32.056
  • Be a class where many young people come forward and say i i
  • 00:10:32.189 --> 00:10:35.426
  • People come forward and say i i was pushed into surgery.
  • 00:10:35.559 --> 00:10:36.093
  • Was pushed into surgery. i was not told there were any
  • 00:10:36.227 --> 00:10:36.827
  • I was not told there were any other options.
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  • Other options. i was given this this label as
  • 00:10:38.996 --> 00:10:39.730
  • I was given this this label as trans when i was when i was
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  • Trans when i was when i was very young and this was not
  • 00:10:42.733 --> 00:10:43.267
  • Very young and this was not fair.
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  • Fair. >> so while some health care
  • 00:10:43.701 --> 00:10:46.537
  • >> so while some health care providers still advocate
  • 00:10:46.670 --> 00:10:47.171
  • Providers still advocate transgender for minors, the
  • 00:10:47.304 --> 00:10:50.107
  • Transgender for minors, the direction could be changing.
  • 00:10:50.241 --> 00:10:53.878
  • Direction could be changing. >> lori johnson, cbn news.
  • 00:10:54.011 --> 00:10:54.712
  • >> lori johnson, cbn news. those lawsuits may very well be
  • 00:10:57.081 --> 00:10:57.915
  • Those lawsuits may very well be coming.
  • 00:10:58.048 --> 00:10:58.249
  • Coming. >> gordon.
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  • >> gordon. well the u.k. led the charge on
  • 00:10:58.749 --> 00:11:01.752
  • Well the u.k. led the charge on this.
  • 00:11:01.886 --> 00:11:02.052
  • This. >> there were they were the
  • 00:11:02.186 --> 00:11:04.188
  • >> there were they were the first medical association that
  • 00:11:04.321 --> 00:11:04.922
  • First medical association that says well the outcomes you
  • 00:11:05.055 --> 00:11:05.589
  • Says well the outcomes you antis have paid from performing
  • 00:11:05.723 --> 00:11:08.726
  • Antis have paid from performing these procedures on minors and
  • 00:11:08.859 --> 00:11:12.196
  • These procedures on minors and the justification was we need
  • 00:11:12.329 --> 00:11:12.930
  • The justification was we need to change their mental outlook.
  • 00:11:13.063 --> 00:11:15.900
  • To change their mental outlook. >> and in that if we have the
  • 00:11:16.033 --> 00:11:17.101
  • >> and in that if we have the physical change then all these
  • 00:11:17.234 --> 00:11:20.671
  • Physical change then all these mental health issues are going
  • 00:11:20.805 --> 00:11:21.405
  • Mental health issues are going to go away.
  • 00:11:21.539 --> 00:11:23.841
  • To go away. well, it was shown by medical
  • 00:11:23.974 --> 00:11:24.809
  • Well, it was shown by medical evidence didn't really work.
  • 00:11:24.942 --> 00:11:28.145
  • Evidence didn't really work. >> and so now we're into well
  • 00:11:28.279 --> 00:11:31.148
  • >> and so now we're into well have you done you've made us a
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  • Have you done you've made us a permanent change.
  • 00:11:32.316 --> 00:11:35.953
  • Permanent change. you're talking about permanent
  • 00:11:36.086 --> 00:11:36.654
  • You're talking about permanent permanent physical.
  • 00:11:36.787 --> 00:11:39.857
  • Permanent physical. you're talking about sterility.
  • 00:11:39.990 --> 00:11:40.591
  • You're talking about sterility. you're talking about them
  • 00:11:40.724 --> 00:11:43.360
  • You're talking about them children and that future as a
  • 00:11:43.494 --> 00:11:44.195
  • Children and that future as a parent, a grandparent.
  • 00:11:44.328 --> 00:11:48.199
  • Parent, a grandparent. >> but don't think think for a
  • 00:11:48.332 --> 00:11:51.535
  • >> but don't think think for a minute this thing has gone away
  • 00:11:51.669 --> 00:11:52.303
  • Minute this thing has gone away that there isn't this really
  • 00:11:52.436 --> 00:11:55.372
  • That there isn't this really strong pressure and i don't
  • 00:11:55.506 --> 00:11:56.040
  • Strong pressure and i don't understand other than a
  • 00:11:56.173 --> 00:11:58.943
  • Understand other than a spiritual answer why there's
  • 00:11:59.076 --> 00:11:59.643
  • Spiritual answer why there's such a strong pressure but it's
  • 00:11:59.777 --> 00:12:03.080
  • Such a strong pressure but it's just ringing in my ear is
  • 00:12:03.214 --> 00:12:05.316
  • Just ringing in my ear is one of the leaders of this
  • 00:12:05.449 --> 00:12:05.983
  • One of the leaders of this gender transition in in the
  • 00:12:06.116 --> 00:12:09.019
  • Gender transition in in the university of vanderbilt says
  • 00:12:09.153 --> 00:12:09.753
  • University of vanderbilt says if you don't buy into this
  • 00:12:09.887 --> 00:12:10.421
  • If you don't buy into this ideology, if you raise
  • 00:12:10.554 --> 00:12:13.657
  • Ideology, if you raise objections to it, you can't be
  • 00:12:13.791 --> 00:12:14.391
  • Objections to it, you can't be employed here.
  • 00:12:14.525 --> 00:12:14.825
  • Employed here. >> so it's it hasn't gone away.
  • 00:12:14.959 --> 00:12:17.461
  • >> so it's it hasn't gone away. >> the whistleblowers in
  • 00:12:17.595 --> 00:12:20.831
  • >> the whistleblowers in hospitals disclosing what was
  • 00:12:20.965 --> 00:12:25.102
  • Hospitals disclosing what was really going on while they lost
  • 00:12:25.236 --> 00:12:25.870
  • Really going on while they lost their jobs they lost hospital
  • 00:12:26.003 --> 00:12:29.206
  • Their jobs they lost hospital privileges because of it.
  • 00:12:29.340 --> 00:12:29.840
  • Privileges because of it. >> here's curious thing that
  • 00:12:29.974 --> 00:12:33.010
  • >> here's curious thing that it's the trial lawyers who are
  • 00:12:33.143 --> 00:12:36.780
  • It's the trial lawyers who are the difference that they're
  • 00:12:36.914 --> 00:12:37.481
  • The difference that they're going to follow file these
  • 00:12:37.615 --> 00:12:40.551
  • Going to follow file these cases.
  • 00:12:40.684 --> 00:12:40.851
  • Cases. they're going to win large
  • 00:12:40.985 --> 00:12:44.255
  • They're going to win large monetary awards.
  • 00:12:44.388 --> 00:12:44.722
  • Monetary awards. i'm not sure it's going to be a
  • 00:12:44.855 --> 00:12:45.656
  • I'm not sure it's going to be a class action needed.
  • 00:12:45.789 --> 00:12:48.692
  • Class action needed. but you know, i remember in law
  • 00:12:48.826 --> 00:12:49.560
  • But you know, i remember in law school reading all a famous
  • 00:12:49.693 --> 00:12:51.996
  • School reading all a famous automaker who didn't put a $5
  • 00:12:52.129 --> 00:12:55.366
  • Automaker who didn't put a $5 rubber insulator in tanks
  • 00:12:55.499 --> 00:12:58.802
  • Rubber insulator in tanks making those cars subject to
  • 00:12:58.936 --> 00:13:02.973
  • Making those cars subject to rear end collisions that would
  • 00:13:03.107 --> 00:13:03.707
  • Rear end collisions that would end up in explosions that would
  • 00:13:03.841 --> 00:13:06.610
  • End up in explosions that would kill and severely man and burn
  • 00:13:06.744 --> 00:13:07.444
  • Kill and severely man and burn people all over a $5 rubber
  • 00:13:07.578 --> 00:13:12.449
  • People all over a $5 rubber lining.
  • 00:13:12.583 --> 00:13:12.783
  • Lining. they discovered in the records
  • 00:13:12.917 --> 00:13:15.920
  • They discovered in the records of the of the company that it
  • 00:13:16.053 --> 00:13:16.854
  • Of the of the company that it was some actual real saying
  • 00:13:16.987 --> 00:13:20.658
  • Was some actual real saying well we'll make more money if
  • 00:13:20.791 --> 00:13:21.392
  • Well we'll make more money if we don't have this in the gas
  • 00:13:21.525 --> 00:13:22.226
  • We don't have this in the gas tank.
  • 00:13:22.359 --> 00:13:24.261
  • Tank. >> and that led to huge
  • 00:13:24.395 --> 00:13:25.229
  • >> and that led to huge lawsuits huge recoveries for
  • 00:13:25.362 --> 00:13:28.132
  • Lawsuits huge recoveries for for the families involved.
  • 00:13:28.265 --> 00:13:31.835
  • For the families involved. are we going to see that?
  • 00:13:31.969 --> 00:13:32.603
  • Are we going to see that? but ultimately i think i think
  • 00:13:32.736 --> 00:13:36.073
  • But ultimately i think i think it's going to come down to
  • 00:13:36.206 --> 00:13:36.774
  • It's going to come down to health insurance.
  • 00:13:36.907 --> 00:13:37.274
  • Health insurance. if health insurance say say we
  • 00:13:37.408 --> 00:13:39.410
  • If health insurance say say we will not provide malpractice
  • 00:13:39.543 --> 00:13:40.077
  • Will not provide malpractice coverage for this surgery.
  • 00:13:40.210 --> 00:13:43.647
  • Coverage for this surgery. well, it will stop overnight.
  • 00:13:43.781 --> 00:13:47.384
  • Well, it will stop overnight. >> terry.
  • 00:13:47.518 --> 00:13:47.818
  • >> terry. well, up next a match made made
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  • Well, up next a match made made in heaven.
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  • In heaven. for nearly 50 years this couple
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  • For nearly 50 years this couple has been bringing students
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  • Has been bringing students closer to god.
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  • Closer to god. see a love story that was born
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  • See a love story that was born and has blossomed at one of
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  • And has blossomed at one of america's top christian
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  • America's top christian universities.
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  • Universities. plus if you want a marriage
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  • Plus if you want a marriage that endures to the end you
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  • Photographer. he's the accident.
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  • This side of my head was actually up against the rear
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  • Actually up against the rear tire and supernatural
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  • Tire and supernatural protection.
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  • Protection. only way that could have
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  • Only way that could have happened is if god turned that
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  • Happened is if god turned that car monday.
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  • Car monday. >> 700 club.
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  • >> 700 club. stay with cbn news all day
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  • Stay with cbn news all day across our platforms.
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  • Across our platforms. >> well on the day before
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  • >> well on the day before valentine's day and this all
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  • Valentine's day and this all guys learned that we're calling
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  • Guys learned that we're calling this valentine's day we we have
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  • This valentine's day we we have a 50 year old love story for
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  • A 50 year old love story for you.
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  • You. this couple met on of oral
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  • This couple met on of oral roberts university together.
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  • Roberts university together. they dedicated their lives to
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  • They dedicated their lives to help students reach the world
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  • Help students reach the world for god.
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  • For god. the visit of oral roberts
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  • The visit of oral roberts university is to raise up
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  • University is to raise up students to hear god's voice to
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  • Students to hear god's voice to go where his light is dim,
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  • Go where his light is dim, where his voice is small and
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  • Where his voice is small and his healing power is not known
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  • His healing power is not known even to the uttermost bounds of
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  • Even to the uttermost bounds of the earth.
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  • The earth. >> that focus has led the
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  • >> that focus has led the school as one of the country's
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  • School as one of the country's best colleges.
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  • Best colleges. >> the wall street journal
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  • >> the wall street journal journal lists are you in the
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  • Journal lists are you in the top ten for student experience
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  • Top ten for student experience includes spiritual integrity,
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  • Includes spiritual integrity, intellectual pursuit vision.
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  • Intellectual pursuit vision. something good happens here and
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  • Something good happens here and and it happened for clarence
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  • And it happened for clarence and kim boyd, a loving couple
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  • And kim boyd, a loving couple that have been married nine
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  • That have been married nine years who met here as students
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  • Years who met here as students on campus.
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  • On campus. >> what was it like when you
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  • >> what was it like when you first met ken?
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  • First met ken? i was glued.
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  • I was glued. i was stuck.
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  • I was stuck. i never you know, i'm looking
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  • I never you know, i'm looking at sisters and and all of that
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  • At sisters and and all of that but i just i'm just staring at
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  • But i just i'm just staring at her and.
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  • Her and. i'm like wow, there's somebody
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  • I'm like wow, there's somebody i need.
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  • I need. >> and kim, what was it like
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  • >> and kim, what was it like for you?
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  • For you? i was i you know, i think we
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  • I was i you know, i think we right away just developed this
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  • Right away just developed this community.
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  • Community. and there was there was just
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  • And there was there was just there was a group of us that
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  • There was a group of us that just grew to love each other
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  • Just grew to love each other and care for each other out of
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  • And care for each other out of that became a friendship that
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  • That became a friendship that was beyond what we planned
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  • Was beyond what we planned obviously but what the lord had
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  • Obviously but what the lord had planned beyond marriage this
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  • Planned beyond marriage this duo began teaching and
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  • Duo began teaching and inspiring students and faculty
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  • Inspiring students and faculty as servant leaders.
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  • As servant leaders. >> clarence began taking on
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  • >> clarence began taking on leadership roles.
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  • Leadership roles. eventually oral roberts
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  • Eventually oral roberts personally selected him to of
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  • Personally selected him to of the men's athletic dorm.
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  • The men's athletic dorm. it moved on on to dean of
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  • It moved on on to dean of students and now a senior
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  • Students and now a senior faculty member in the college
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  • Faculty member in the college of theology.
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  • Of theology. looking back, he recalls how
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  • Looking back, he recalls how how the founder would say
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  • How the founder would say expect a miracle.
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  • Expect a miracle. even as a freshman and clarence
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  • Even as a freshman and clarence saw that happen right in front
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  • Saw that happen right in front of him.
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  • Of him. what what happened to me at
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  • What what happened to me at auburn university was i was in
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  • Auburn university was i was in a chapel and kathryn kuhlman
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  • A chapel and kathryn kuhlman was a speaker and was doing
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  • Was a speaker and was doing what she does normally about
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  • What she does normally about ministry and she said there's a
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  • Ministry and she said there's a man who has cataracts cataracts
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  • Man who has cataracts cataracts is going to be in.
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  • Is going to be in. that man was sitting three
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  • That man was sitting three seats over one roll back from
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  • Seats over one roll back from me.
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  • Me. i saw the cataracts fall out
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  • I saw the cataracts fall out and i saw it.
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  • And i saw it. i know i saw it.
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  • I know i saw it. i could not in reality it
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  • I could not in reality it because i was not accustomed to
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  • Because i was not accustomed to that.
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  • That. but the fact that i saw changedd
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  • But the fact that i saw changedd my life.
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  • My life. >> we are all for 30 years.
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  • >> we are all for 30 years. kim as the dean of the college
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  • Kim as the dean of the college of education.
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  • Of education. >> kim remembers her humble
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  • >> kim remembers her humble pennsylvania beginnings and
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  • Pennsylvania beginnings and leaving with her best friend to
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  • Leaving with her best friend to attend to are you not knowing
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  • Attend to are you not knowing what?
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  • What? >> although she had her
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  • >> although she had her mother's prayers to support her
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  • Mother's prayers to support her mom who had a third grade
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  • Mom who had a third grade education of her children
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  • Education of her children before me had gone to college.
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  • Before me had gone to college. heard about or average
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  • Heard about or average university.
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  • University. she liked the rules.
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  • She liked the rules. he liked that it had a curfew.
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  • He liked that it had a curfew. she liked that it had a dress
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  • She liked that it had a dress code.
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  • Code. she liked that it was a
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  • She liked that it was a christian.
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  • Christian. >> during her first year as a
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  • >> during her first year as a student, kim remembers taking
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  • Student, kim remembers taking taking a class that would draw
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  • Taking a class that would draw her into a deeper relationship
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  • Her into a deeper relationship with christ a class taught by
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  • With christ a class taught by oral roberts.
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  • Oral roberts. >> can to this day remember
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  • >> can to this day remember where in the maybe sinner.
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  • Where in the maybe sinner. >> when oral roberts holy
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  • >> when oral roberts holy spirit in the now and he
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  • Spirit in the now and he started teaching teaching about
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  • Started teaching teaching about the need to know the holy
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  • The need to know the holy spirit and and that evidence
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  • Spirit and and that evidence was speaking in tongues.
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  • Was speaking in tongues. >> so that was my encounter
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  • >> so that was my encounter with learning about the holy
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  • With learning about the holy spirit learning who god was in
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  • Spirit learning who god was in terms of the spirit and how he
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  • Terms of the spirit and how he could be there with us all the
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  • Could be there with us all the time.
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  • Time. >> throughout their marriage
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  • >> throughout their marriage say god has been the center of
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  • Say god has been the center of their joy while showing of
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  • Their joy while showing of their family.
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  • Their family. they expressed gratitude for
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  • They expressed gratitude for having four children all of
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  • Having four children all of whom graduated from 0ru.
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  • Whom graduated from 0ru. they're grandparents to nine
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  • They're grandparents to nine grandchildren as educators.
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  • Grandchildren as educators. they're dedicated to the
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  • They're dedicated to the school's mission to develop
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  • School's mission to develop develop holy spirit empowered
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  • Develop holy spirit empowered leaders through a whole person
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  • Leaders through a whole person education, mind and body.
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  • Education, mind and body. they're preparing students to
  • 00:20:03.321 --> 00:20:06.658
  • They're preparing students to who hear god's voice and shine
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  • Who hear god's voice and shine his light is dim.
  • 00:20:07.625 --> 00:20:10.829
  • His light is dim. >> that's why you're here.
  • 00:20:10.962 --> 00:20:11.529
  • >> that's why you're here. you must must first become a
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  • You must must first become a whole person if you're going to
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  • Whole person if you're going to affect the world in a holistic
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  • Affect the world in a holistic way way.
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  • Way way. >> you can't be the problem and
  • 00:20:18.436 --> 00:20:19.170
  • >> you can't be the problem and then try to fix the problem you
  • 00:20:19.304 --> 00:20:22.574
  • Then try to fix the problem you are.
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  • Are. >> the last time i checked god
  • 00:20:22.974 --> 00:20:23.641
  • >> the last time i checked god was still on the throne.
  • 00:20:23.775 --> 00:20:26.311
  • Was still on the throne. the last time i checked he is a
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  • The last time i checked he is a mighty warrior on our behalf.
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  • Mighty warrior on our behalf. the last time i checked is is
  • 00:20:31.015 --> 00:20:34.719
  • The last time i checked is is real.
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  • Real. the last time i checked is here
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  • The last time i checked is here today.
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  • Today. >> what do you love about dr.
  • 00:20:38.690 --> 00:20:39.457
  • >> what do you love about dr. boyd?
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  • Boyd? i love how she's so sweet.
  • 00:20:39.891 --> 00:20:41.993
  • I love how she's so sweet. she's so caring.
  • 00:20:42.127 --> 00:20:42.494
  • She's so caring. she's passionate about students
  • 00:20:42.627 --> 00:20:45.897
  • She's passionate about students here.
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  • Here. >> are you and what we can do
  • 00:20:46.431 --> 00:20:47.132
  • >> are you and what we can do to make the world a better
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  • To make the world a better place there are wonderful.
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  • Place there are wonderful. >> they've contributed so much
  • 00:20:50.001 --> 00:20:50.668
  • >> they've contributed so much to this university and to and
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  • To this university and to and to our students.
  • 00:20:54.105 --> 00:20:54.439
  • To our students. i'm very proud of them to be
  • 00:20:54.572 --> 00:20:55.206
  • I'm very proud of them to be able to say that i know them
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  • Able to say that i know them they love the lord and it's a
  • 00:20:57.342 --> 00:20:58.243
  • They love the lord and it's a thrill be able to be involved
  • 00:20:58.376 --> 00:21:01.379
  • Thrill be able to be involved with them and to serve and in
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  • With them and to serve and in eau has a reason to sing and
  • 00:21:07.352 --> 00:21:11.456
  • Eau has a reason to sing and thank the lord for that special
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  • Thank the lord for that special day.
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  • Day. he met kim.
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  • He met kim. since then they have a
  • 00:21:15.527 --> 00:21:17.896
  • Since then they have a remarkable couple.
  • 00:21:18.029 --> 00:21:18.396
  • Remarkable couple. >> you could call them truly
  • 00:21:18.530 --> 00:21:21.599
  • >> you could call them truly made in heaven.
  • 00:21:21.733 --> 00:21:22.066
  • Made in heaven. >> in tulsa, kelly wright news.
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  • >> in tulsa, kelly wright news. >> well incredible story day.
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  • >> well incredible story day. yes and.
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  • Yes and. today's turbulent world you
  • 00:21:33.478 --> 00:21:34.012
  • Today's turbulent world you still have anchors and the
  • 00:21:34.145 --> 00:21:37.248
  • Still have anchors and the anchor of love the anchor of
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  • Anchor of love the anchor of the marriage covenant wonderful
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  • The marriage covenant wonderful christian institutions.
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  • Christian institutions. are you fantastic?
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  • Are you fantastic? their graduates have gone
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  • Their graduates have gone around the world of their
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  • Around the world of their graduates is head of cbn,
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  • Graduates is head of cbn, indonesia and you see the
  • 00:21:49.961 --> 00:21:52.730
  • Indonesia and you see the impact you see the fruit that
  • 00:21:52.864 --> 00:21:53.565
  • Impact you see the fruit that remains.
  • 00:21:53.698 --> 00:21:56.201
  • Remains. may god bless that wonderful
  • 00:21:56.334 --> 00:21:57.001
  • May god bless that wonderful university and all they've done
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  • University and all they've done through the decades.
  • 00:22:00.638 --> 00:22:01.072
  • Through the decades. their faithfulness to produce
  • 00:22:01.206 --> 00:22:04.142
  • Their faithfulness to produce christian leaders and instill
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  • Christian leaders and instill in young yes indeed there's a
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  • In young yes indeed there's a holy spirit in the here and
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  • Holy spirit in the here and now.
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  • Now. >> well speaking of good good
  • 00:22:12.083 --> 00:22:15.386
  • >> well speaking of good good marriages coming up next
  • 00:22:15.520 --> 00:22:16.054
  • Marriages coming up next perfect lessons on marriage.
  • 00:22:16.187 --> 00:22:16.754
  • Perfect lessons on marriage. >> taken from imperfect couples
  • 00:22:16.888 --> 00:22:19.724
  • >> taken from imperfect couples dana shea shares the tried and
  • 00:22:19.858 --> 00:22:20.458
  • Dana shea shares the tried and true ways you can avoid the
  • 00:22:20.592 --> 00:22:23.728
  • True ways you can avoid the most common mistakes in your
  • 00:22:23.862 --> 00:22:24.462
  • Most common mistakes in your relationship.
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  • Relationship. >> she joins us live when we
  • 00:22:27.031 --> 00:22:27.966
  • >> she joins us live when we come back.
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  • >> amazing. >> to learn more call today or
  • 00:22:30.002 --> 00:22:30.327
  • >> to learn more call today or go to gentle cure scar.
  • 00:22:30.461 --> 00:22:35.532
  • Go to gentle cure scar. >> well, we're all familiar
  • 00:22:35.666 --> 00:22:36.233
  • >> well, we're all familiar with the honeymoon phase.
  • 00:22:36.367 --> 00:22:38.936
  • With the honeymoon phase. when that spark dies out,
  • 00:22:39.069 --> 00:22:39.603
  • When that spark dies out, problems can begin a marriage
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  • Problems can begin a marriage doesn't fall apart in
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  • Doesn't fall apart in one single moment kind of
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  • One single moment kind of unravels.
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  • Unravels. >> and what author dana shea
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  • >> and what author dana shea calls the long middle.
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  • Calls the long middle. >> what if struggles in your
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  • >> what if struggles in your marriage could actually make it
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  • Marriage could actually make it stronger?
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  • Stronger? denis shea knows they can as a
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  • Denis shea knows they can as a keynote speaker, relationship
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  • Keynote speaker, relationship expert and host us podcast dana
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  • Expert and host us podcast dana blends humor grace and real
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  • Blends humor grace and real world advice to help people
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  • World advice to help people live and love better.
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  • Live and love better. in her new book tried and true,
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  • In her new book tried and true, she draws from imperfect
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  • She draws from imperfect biblical couples offering
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  • Biblical couples offering guidance for navigate in
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  • Guidance for navigate in conflict disappointment or
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  • Conflict disappointment or unmet expectations showing that
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  • Unmet expectations showing that even the hardest seasons can
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  • Even the hardest seasons can deepen your connection and
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  • Deepen your connection and strengthen your covenant.
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  • Strengthen your covenant. >> is with us now.
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  • >> is with us now. we welcome you to the 700 club.
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  • We welcome you to the 700 club. great to have to have you here
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  • Great to have to have you here today.
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  • Today. >> thank you so much for having
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  • >> thank you so much for having me.
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  • Me. terry is such a pleasure tried
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  • Terry is such a pleasure tried and true boy you've got 12
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  • And true boy you've got 12 couples out of the word that
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  • Couples out of the word that you take at and study here.
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  • You take at and study here. but one of the things you talk
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  • But one of the things you talk about is the long in marriage.
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  • About is the long in marriage. >> what do you mean by that?
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  • >> what do you mean by that? the long middle is where most
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  • The long middle is where most couples you know it's where
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  • Couples you know it's where things are not horrible but
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  • Things are not horrible but they're not great.
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  • They're not great. >> the mundane, the everyday
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  • >> the mundane, the everyday just you know, stressors
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  • Just you know, stressors stressors of marriage.
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  • Stressors of marriage. and i think that's where a lot
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  • And i think that's where a lot of couples get stuck is in that
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  • Of couples get stuck is in that middle again because it's not
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  • Middle again because it's not like we're not necessarily
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  • Like we're not necessarily headed to divorce court but
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  • Headed to divorce court but we're not thriving in our
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  • We're not thriving in our marriage either.
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  • Marriage either. >> we're not enjoying it like
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  • >> we're not enjoying it like we expected to.
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  • We expected to. >> exactly.
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  • >> exactly. talk a little bit about the
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  • Talk a little bit about the significance call this
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  • Significance call this reconnection because or
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  • Reconnection because or disconnection because how does
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  • Disconnection because how does that happen like it that
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  • That happen like it that introduction was so true that
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  • Introduction was so true that it doesn't happen like
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  • It doesn't happen like overnight.
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  • Overnight. >> it happens a little bit at a
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  • >> it happens a little bit at a time.
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  • Time. >> terri i liken it to if you
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  • >> terri i liken it to if you imagine like a canoe on a lake,
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  • Imagine like a canoe on a lake, right?
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  • Right? if the canoe was just sitting
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  • If the canoe was just sitting on a and it's not tethered to
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  • On a and it's not tethered to anything it's not tied to
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  • Anything it's not tied to anything it doesn't take a
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  • Anything it doesn't take a hurricane or gale force winds.
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  • Hurricane or gale force winds. it's just a gentle breeze.
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  • It's just a gentle breeze. that canoe is going to drift
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  • That canoe is going to drift off.
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  • Off. right.
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  • Right. and that's what happens in is
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  • And that's what happens in is that our default is actually
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  • That our default is actually disconnection not connection.
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  • Disconnection not connection. so if couples are not tethered
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  • So if couples are not tethered to something or if they're not
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  • To something or if they're not then they are going to
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  • Then they are going to experience disconnection over
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  • Experience disconnection over time.
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  • Time. if you don't recognize it and
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  • If you don't recognize it and address it then you you wake up
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  • Address it then you you wake up and you're like who is this
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  • And you're like who is this person that i married?
  • 00:24:59.243 --> 00:24:59.710
  • Person that i married? i fell so far apart from them?
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  • I fell so far apart from them? >> well intention is the word
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  • >> well intention is the word that comes to mind as you
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  • That comes to mind as you describe all of that.
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  • Describe all of that. >> so how are you in your
  • 00:25:06.250 --> 00:25:07.017
  • >> so how are you in your marriage?
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  • Marriage? live?
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  • Live? >> hmm.
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  • >> hmm. i think you know, a lot of it
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  • I think you know, a lot of it is the.
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  • Is the. the everyday choices that we
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  • The everyday choices that we make little things that can by
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  • Make little things that can by like saying please saying thank
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  • Like saying please saying thank you.
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  • You. my husband and i've been 27
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  • My husband and i've been 27 years he opens the car door for
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  • Years he opens the car door for me.
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  • Me. i was going to say open the car
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  • I was going to say open the car door in the car and then i say
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  • Door in the car and then i say thank you.
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  • Thank you. >> right.
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  • >> right. not taking that for granted.
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  • Not taking that for granted. we kiss each other, you know,
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  • We kiss each other, you know, even if it might be like a
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  • Even if it might be like a quick peck real quick, real
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  • Quick peck real quick, real real right.
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  • Real right. >> it's like our obligated to
  • 00:25:36.146 --> 00:25:36.747
  • >> it's like our obligated to our kids but like, you know
  • 00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:37.447
  • Our kids but like, you know when he's he's coming in when
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  • When he's he's coming in when i'm going out like just those
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  • I'm going out like just those little things that that we kind
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  • Little things that that we kind of miss sometimes those are
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  • Of miss sometimes those are ways to stay connected and then
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  • Ways to stay connected and then obviously our spiritual
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  • Obviously our spiritual connection which is really the
  • 00:25:47.257 --> 00:25:47.858
  • Connection which is really the reason that i wrote this book
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  • Reason that i wrote this book because i think if we have a
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  • Because i think if we have a foundation of spiritual
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  • Foundation of spiritual connection that's going to take
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  • Connection that's going to take care many of the things that
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  • Care many of the things that try to disconnect us.
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  • Try to disconnect us. >> do you think sometimes the
  • 00:25:56.233 --> 00:25:56.834
  • >> do you think sometimes the christian are almost more
  • 00:25:56.967 --> 00:25:59.603
  • Christian are almost more susceptible to having marriage
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  • Susceptible to having marriage issues because they just assume
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  • Issues because they just assume they both love the lord,
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  • They both love the lord, they're both committed each
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  • They're both committed each other that they're almost not
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  • Other that they're almost not ready to deal with the.
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  • Ready to deal with the. >> absolutely.
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  • >> absolutely. and we have to understand that
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  • And we have to understand that we have an enemy the enemy
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  • We have an enemy the enemy hates marriage because marriage
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  • Hates marriage because marriage human relationship where he
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  • Human relationship where he reveals his covenant.
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  • Reveals his covenant. and.
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  • And. and so because we are in a
  • 00:26:23.060 --> 00:26:23.727
  • And so because we are in a christian marriage, we are a
  • 00:26:23.861 --> 00:26:24.428
  • Christian marriage, we are a target for the the enemy and i
  • 00:26:24.561 --> 00:26:26.864
  • Target for the the enemy and i think a lot of christians have
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  • Think a lot of christians have no idea they have no idea that
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  • No idea they have no idea that an enemy who is after them.
  • 00:26:30.067 --> 00:26:30.667
  • An enemy who is after them. and so what happens is then we
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  • And so what happens is then we look at each at our spouse as
  • 00:26:31.702 --> 00:26:34.204
  • Look at each at our spouse as our enemy instead of the real
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  • Our enemy instead of the real enemy.
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  • Enemy. .
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  • . and so that makes us greatly
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  • And so that makes us greatly susceptible.
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  • Susceptible. and then i think sometimes you
  • 00:26:38.775 --> 00:26:40.811
  • And then i think sometimes you we can abuse grace and we can
  • 00:26:40.944 --> 00:26:41.678
  • We can abuse grace and we can say well, i'm a christian.
  • 00:26:41.812 --> 00:26:42.346
  • Say well, i'm a christian. you i know what i'm supposed to
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  • You i know what i'm supposed to do but i've got grace and then
  • 00:26:45.349 --> 00:26:47.651
  • Do but i've got grace and then we we start to lose some of
  • 00:26:47.784 --> 00:26:48.619
  • We we start to lose some of that intentionality in our
  • 00:26:48.752 --> 00:26:49.286
  • That intentionality in our marriages.
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  • Marriages. >> you just mentioned covenant.
  • 00:26:52.623 --> 00:26:53.257
  • >> you just mentioned covenant. and i wonder sometimes if we
  • 00:26:53.390 --> 00:26:56.627
  • And i wonder sometimes if we don't need to teach more in our
  • 00:26:56.760 --> 00:26:57.561
  • Don't need to teach more in our churches about what covenant is
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  • Churches about what covenant is and how significant how how and
  • 00:27:00.497 --> 00:27:04.001
  • And how significant how how and ongoing it is from god's
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  • Ongoing it is from god's perspective.
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  • Perspective. you say love is a choice so if
  • 00:27:07.638 --> 00:27:11.475
  • You say love is a choice so if we're in covenant with someone
  • 00:27:11.608 --> 00:27:12.242
  • We're in covenant with someone we know what the choice is
  • 00:27:12.376 --> 00:27:12.943
  • We know what the choice is supposed to be.
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  • Supposed to be. >> right?
  • 00:27:15.345 --> 00:27:15.679
  • >> right? that's right.
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  • That's right. you know and i often say in the
  • 00:27:16.246 --> 00:27:17.147
  • You know and i often say in the church church tends to idealize
  • 00:27:17.281 --> 00:27:19.850
  • Church church tends to idealize marriage and the world tends to
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  • Marriage and the world tends to marriage.
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  • Marriage. and what we need to do as as
  • 00:27:23.287 --> 00:27:24.154
  • And what we need to do as as believers is realize i'm not
  • 00:27:24.288 --> 00:27:27.824
  • Believers is realize i'm not married to my husband because
  • 00:27:27.958 --> 00:27:28.558
  • Married to my husband because he's the greatest thing in the
  • 00:27:28.692 --> 00:27:29.293
  • He's the greatest thing in the world.
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  • World. i mean he's great.
  • 00:27:31.161 --> 00:27:31.695
  • I mean he's great. you know he's great don't get
  • 00:27:31.828 --> 00:27:32.429
  • You know he's great don't get me wrong.
  • 00:27:32.562 --> 00:27:32.796
  • Me wrong. but truthfully can always find
  • 00:27:32.930 --> 00:27:35.165
  • But truthfully can always find somebody better.
  • 00:27:35.299 --> 00:27:35.632
  • Somebody better. there's always options.
  • 00:27:35.766 --> 00:27:36.266
  • There's always options. right.
  • 00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:36.566
  • Right. and also not married to him
  • 00:27:36.700 --> 00:27:39.303
  • And also not married to him because of all the things that
  • 00:27:39.436 --> 00:27:40.070
  • Because of all the things that he can do for me.
  • 00:27:40.203 --> 00:27:40.570
  • He can do for me. and truth be told, oftentimes
  • 00:27:40.704 --> 00:27:43.373
  • And truth be told, oftentimes what we call love is really
  • 00:27:43.507 --> 00:27:44.141
  • What we call love is really just selfish love.
  • 00:27:44.274 --> 00:27:47.577
  • Just selfish love. >> it's really what can this
  • 00:27:47.711 --> 00:27:48.345
  • >> it's really what can this person do for me as they're
  • 00:27:48.478 --> 00:27:50.681
  • Person do for me as they're floating my boat as long as
  • 00:27:50.814 --> 00:27:51.415
  • Floating my boat as long as they're checking off the boxes
  • 00:27:51.548 --> 00:27:52.149
  • They're checking off the boxes and performing then all is
  • 00:27:52.282 --> 00:27:55.352
  • And performing then all is well.
  • 00:27:55.485 --> 00:27:55.652
  • Well. but the moment that they stop
  • 00:27:55.786 --> 00:27:56.420
  • But the moment that they stop then i'm out.
  • 00:27:56.553 --> 00:27:58.889
  • Then i'm out. >> you know i hear women a lot
  • 00:27:59.022 --> 00:28:00.023
  • >> you know i hear women a lot of christian but women in
  • 00:28:00.157 --> 00:28:03.293
  • Of christian but women in general talk about the laundry
  • 00:28:03.427 --> 00:28:04.027
  • General talk about the laundry list they make.
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  • List they make. i call i call it a laundry list
  • 00:28:04.628 --> 00:28:06.964
  • I call i call it a laundry list of all the attributes they want
  • 00:28:07.097 --> 00:28:10.334
  • Of all the attributes they want in their husband and we focus
  • 00:28:10.467 --> 00:28:11.168
  • In their husband and we focus more on finding the right
  • 00:28:11.301 --> 00:28:14.738
  • More on finding the right person than being the right
  • 00:28:14.871 --> 00:28:15.405
  • Person than being the right person like like that's
  • 00:28:15.539 --> 00:28:17.941
  • Person like like that's significant to say god prepare
  • 00:28:18.075 --> 00:28:18.675
  • Significant to say god prepare me.
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  • Me. >> absolutely.
  • 00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:22.446
  • >> absolutely. i've got a couple of single
  • 00:28:22.579 --> 00:28:23.213
  • I've got a couple of single girlfriends and you know they
  • 00:28:23.347 --> 00:28:25.749
  • Girlfriends and you know they want to be married in their
  • 00:28:25.882 --> 00:28:26.450
  • Want to be married in their forties fifties.
  • 00:28:26.583 --> 00:28:26.950
  • Forties fifties. they want to be married and so
  • 00:28:27.084 --> 00:28:29.453
  • They want to be married and so often i will say what what are
  • 00:28:29.586 --> 00:28:30.220
  • Often i will say what what are you looking for in a man and
  • 00:28:30.354 --> 00:28:30.988
  • You looking for in a man and the list long i might drop that
  • 00:28:31.121 --> 00:28:33.357
  • The list long i might drop that list does not exist that man is
  • 00:28:33.490 --> 00:28:36.727
  • List does not exist that man is not going to be found.
  • 00:28:36.860 --> 00:28:37.361
  • Not going to be found. you are going to need a chat
  • 00:28:37.494 --> 00:28:38.228
  • You are going to need a chat but somebody to create that man
  • 00:28:38.362 --> 00:28:40.998
  • But somebody to create that man that you are trying to create.
  • 00:28:41.131 --> 00:28:41.732
  • That you are trying to create. but i think that that is human
  • 00:28:41.865 --> 00:28:44.301
  • But i think that that is human nature that we want what we're
  • 00:28:44.434 --> 00:28:45.068
  • Nature that we want what we're not even capable of providing.
  • 00:28:45.202 --> 00:28:48.739
  • Not even capable of providing. yes, it's about what do you
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  • Yes, it's about what do you bring the person to be when
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  • Bring the person to be when we're not so work on yourself,
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  • We're not so work on yourself, you know, become the person
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  • You know, become the person that would attract such a
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  • That would attract such a person instead of just looking
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  • Person instead of just looking at you know this person has to
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  • At you know this person has to fulfill all of my needs and
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  • Fulfill all of my needs and desires.
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  • Desires. mentioned this a little bit
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  • Mentioned this a little bit earlier about the kiss that
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  • Earlier about the kiss that comes when it's just the heels
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  • Comes when it's just the heels of a disagreement.
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  • Of a disagreement. but every marriage has has
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  • But every marriage has has disagreements.
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  • Disagreements. there are always points of
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  • There are always points of contention that rise now and
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  • Contention that rise now and again.
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  • Again. how do you handle those in a
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  • How do you handle those in a way that doesn't damage the
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  • Way that doesn't damage the relationship?
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  • Relationship? >> i look at conflict as an
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  • >> i look at conflict as an adventure i really do like i am
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  • Adventure i really do like i am not afraid of conflict.
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  • Not afraid of conflict. i'm really not i don't love it
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  • I'm really not i don't love it you know i don't looking for it
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  • You know i don't looking for it but i think if we're so afraid
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  • But i think if we're so afraid of of conflict and you know if
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  • Of of conflict and you know if you grew up in a home where you
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  • You grew up in a home where you didn't see your practice
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  • Didn't see your practice conflict well whether they
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  • Conflict well whether they never fought in in front of you
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  • Never fought in in front of you because a lot of well-intended
  • 00:29:37.888 --> 00:29:38.488
  • Because a lot of well-intended parents feel like we can never
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  • Parents feel like we can never disagree argue in front of our
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  • Disagree argue in front of our children.
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  • Children. >> but really you handicap your
  • 00:29:42.092 --> 00:29:42.726
  • >> but really you handicap your children because you teach them
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  • Children because you teach them how to resolve conflict well
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  • How to resolve conflict well and then you grow up you know,
  • 00:29:45.695 --> 00:29:46.329
  • And then you grow up you know, there's know there's other
  • 00:29:46.463 --> 00:29:48.698
  • There's know there's other people who grow up like i did
  • 00:29:48.832 --> 00:29:49.433
  • People who grow up like i did and lots of dysfunction and
  • 00:29:49.566 --> 00:29:50.133
  • And lots of dysfunction and that's obviously not a good
  • 00:29:50.267 --> 00:29:52.302
  • That's obviously not a good template either.
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  • Template either. so i think if we can approach
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  • So i think if we can approach conflict knowing that this does
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  • Conflict knowing that this does not have to break us, we can
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  • Not have to break us, we can learn a lot from conflict and
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  • Learn a lot from conflict and conflict teaches you about what
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  • Conflict teaches you about what is really important to the
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  • Is really important to the other person.
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  • Other person. what is really important to me.
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  • What is really important to me. >> so i'm really introspective
  • 00:30:05.082 --> 00:30:05.749
  • >> so i'm really introspective and when i'm really feeling
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  • And when i'm really feeling irritated at my husband which
  • 00:30:08.485 --> 00:30:09.086
  • Irritated at my husband which is often you probably say the
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  • Is often you probably say the thing about me, you know i'm
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  • Thing about me, you know i'm okay dana what is really going
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  • Okay dana what is really going on because it's usually not
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  • On because it's usually not about the person, it's usually
  • 00:30:17.327 --> 00:30:20.330
  • About the person, it's usually not about what they're doing.
  • 00:30:20.464 --> 00:30:21.064
  • Not about what they're doing. it's something deeper.
  • 00:30:21.198 --> 00:30:21.631
  • It's something deeper. so if we so if we can really
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  • So if we so if we can really pay attention to that and learn
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  • Pay attention to that and learn how to ask ourselves better
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  • How to ask ourselves better questions then we won't be so
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  • Questions then we won't be so afraid of conflict when it
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  • Afraid of conflict when it shows up.
  • 00:30:29.539 --> 00:30:29.773
  • Shows up. >> you have pulled 12 couples
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  • >> you have pulled 12 couples out of the word and delved into
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  • Out of the word and delved into their relationships with each
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  • Their relationships with each other.
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  • Other. the good, the bad and the ugly
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  • The good, the bad and the ugly .
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  • . but you have wisdom about this
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  • But you have wisdom about this because you've come through
  • 00:30:40.283 --> 00:30:42.853
  • Because you've come through yourself.
  • 00:30:42.986 --> 00:30:43.220
  • Yourself. talk about your own marriage
  • 00:30:43.353 --> 00:30:43.920
  • Talk about your own marriage and how you guys handled some.
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  • And how you guys handled some. >> yeah.
  • 00:30:47.257 --> 00:30:47.524
  • >> yeah. so my husband and i got married
  • 00:30:47.657 --> 00:30:48.425
  • So my husband and i got married super young.
  • 00:30:48.558 --> 00:30:48.859
  • Super young. we were 18 and 21.
  • 00:30:49.659 --> 00:30:50.460
  • We were 18 and 21. i do not recommend that by the
  • 00:30:50.594 --> 00:30:51.528
  • I do not recommend that by the way because you don't know
  • 00:30:51.661 --> 00:30:53.964
  • Way because you don't know anything about anything.
  • 00:30:54.097 --> 00:30:54.564
  • Anything about anything. what do you you know what 18
  • 00:30:54.698 --> 00:30:57.067
  • What do you you know what 18 years old there we are and you
  • 00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:57.834
  • Years old there we are and you know we've been together very
  • 00:30:57.968 --> 00:30:59.970
  • Know we've been together very long time but we got married
  • 00:31:00.103 --> 00:31:00.670
  • Long time but we got married with a lot of the the a lot of
  • 00:31:00.804 --> 00:31:03.907
  • With a lot of the the a lot of odds just facing us.
  • 00:31:04.040 --> 00:31:04.474
  • Odds just facing us. we had a six week old son so
  • 00:31:04.608 --> 00:31:05.208
  • We had a six week old son so there was a teenage pregnancy
  • 00:31:05.342 --> 00:31:07.544
  • There was a teenage pregnancy in there.
  • 00:31:07.677 --> 00:31:07.911
  • In there. we just had a lot of things
  • 00:31:08.044 --> 00:31:08.745
  • We just had a lot of things going against us and very early
  • 00:31:08.879 --> 00:31:11.281
  • Going against us and very early on in my marriage i had an
  • 00:31:11.414 --> 00:31:12.149
  • On in my marriage i had an affair and then i found out my
  • 00:31:12.282 --> 00:31:13.016
  • Affair and then i found out my husband also had an affair and
  • 00:31:13.150 --> 00:31:15.352
  • Husband also had an affair and it was just a lack of
  • 00:31:15.485 --> 00:31:16.019
  • It was just a lack of boundaries, a lack of wisdom
  • 00:31:16.153 --> 00:31:18.688
  • Boundaries, a lack of wisdom make excuses but that's just
  • 00:31:18.822 --> 00:31:19.389
  • Make excuses but that's just the nature of it.
  • 00:31:19.523 --> 00:31:19.923
  • The nature of it. my my husband kind of continued
  • 00:31:20.056 --> 00:31:22.893
  • My my husband kind of continued in cycles of infidelity and he
  • 00:31:23.026 --> 00:31:23.693
  • In cycles of infidelity and he was my husband.
  • 00:31:23.827 --> 00:31:26.329
  • Was my husband. >> he's never been like you
  • 00:31:26.463 --> 00:31:27.030
  • >> he's never been like you know, well this is just who i
  • 00:31:27.164 --> 00:31:27.797
  • Know, well this is just who i am.
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  • Am. deal.
  • 00:31:28.198 --> 00:31:29.900
  • Deal. i mean he was always repentant
  • 00:31:30.033 --> 00:31:30.834
  • I mean he was always repentant remorse, remorseful i'll say it
  • 00:31:30.967 --> 00:31:31.601
  • Remorse, remorseful i'll say it that it that way remorseful not
  • 00:31:31.735 --> 00:31:34.004
  • That it that way remorseful not necessarily repentant and we
  • 00:31:34.137 --> 00:31:34.704
  • Necessarily repentant and we just dealt with cycles of
  • 00:31:34.838 --> 00:31:37.641
  • Just dealt with cycles of infidelity through many, many
  • 00:31:37.774 --> 00:31:38.341
  • Infidelity through many, many years of marriage and
  • 00:31:38.475 --> 00:31:40.944
  • Years of marriage and throughout that my heart became
  • 00:31:41.077 --> 00:31:41.711
  • Throughout that my heart became very cold, very bitter lots of
  • 00:31:41.845 --> 00:31:45.048
  • Very cold, very bitter lots of unforgiveness, lots of shame.
  • 00:31:45.182 --> 00:31:45.782
  • Unforgiveness, lots of shame. >> it's a very shameful to go
  • 00:31:45.916 --> 00:31:48.685
  • >> it's a very shameful to go through infidelity and lots of
  • 00:31:48.818 --> 00:31:49.452
  • Through infidelity and lots of people never talk about it
  • 00:31:49.586 --> 00:31:50.120
  • People never talk about it because and so i remember early
  • 00:31:50.253 --> 00:31:53.123
  • Because and so i remember early on we would look to other
  • 00:31:53.256 --> 00:31:56.393
  • On we would look to other couples to help us.
  • 00:31:56.526 --> 00:31:56.960
  • Couples to help us. you know, we knew we were in
  • 00:31:57.093 --> 00:31:57.794
  • You know, we knew we were in trouble.
  • 00:31:57.928 --> 00:32:00.030
  • Trouble. we would look to other couples
  • 00:32:00.163 --> 00:32:00.764
  • We would look to other couples to help and unfortunately even
  • 00:32:00.897 --> 00:32:01.498
  • To help and unfortunately even in the church we we didn't get
  • 00:32:01.631 --> 00:32:03.900
  • In the church we we didn't get much help.
  • 00:32:04.034 --> 00:32:04.267
  • Much help. >> so how did you resurrect the
  • 00:32:04.401 --> 00:32:05.035
  • >> so how did you resurrect the flame?
  • 00:32:05.168 --> 00:32:05.335
  • Flame? well, it literally the lord
  • 00:32:07.170 --> 00:32:08.071
  • Well, it literally the lord like i wish that i had like a
  • 00:32:08.205 --> 00:32:08.905
  • Like i wish that i had like a better a better answer but
  • 00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:11.541
  • Better a better answer but literally the lord had to work
  • 00:32:11.675 --> 00:32:12.309
  • Literally the lord had to work on both our hearts similar
  • 00:32:12.442 --> 00:32:15.679
  • On both our hearts similar similar tenuously.
  • 00:32:15.812 --> 00:32:16.213
  • Similar tenuously. the lord had to break that icy
  • 00:32:16.346 --> 00:32:16.980
  • The lord had to break that icy cold heart in me and.
  • 00:32:17.113 --> 00:32:19.015
  • Cold heart in me and. he had to make my husband
  • 00:32:19.149 --> 00:32:19.816
  • He had to make my husband repentance.
  • 00:32:19.950 --> 00:32:20.217
  • Repentance. and so through therapy we went
  • 00:32:20.350 --> 00:32:23.286
  • And so through therapy we went through therapy, you know,
  • 00:32:23.420 --> 00:32:23.954
  • Through therapy, you know, committing to our relationship
  • 00:32:24.087 --> 00:32:26.856
  • Committing to our relationship the lord which is again why i
  • 00:32:26.990 --> 00:32:27.724
  • The lord which is again why i keep talking about spiritual
  • 00:32:27.857 --> 00:32:28.391
  • Keep talking about spiritual connection because is the key
  • 00:32:28.525 --> 00:32:31.228
  • Connection because is the key that's the roots of the healing
  • 00:32:31.361 --> 00:32:31.962
  • That's the roots of the healing and it's.
  • 00:32:32.095 --> 00:32:35.432
  • And it's. >> it's a long journey and i
  • 00:32:35.565 --> 00:32:36.266
  • >> it's a long journey and i tell people, listen, you didn't
  • 00:32:36.399 --> 00:32:37.000
  • Tell people, listen, you didn't break your marriage overnight.
  • 00:32:37.133 --> 00:32:37.767
  • Break your marriage overnight. i'm not going to be to be fixed
  • 00:32:37.901 --> 00:32:38.835
  • I'm not going to be to be fixed overnight but that's the
  • 00:32:38.969 --> 00:32:39.469
  • Overnight but that's the covenant i love.
  • 00:32:39.603 --> 00:32:39.936
  • Covenant i love. >> that's right.
  • 00:32:40.070 --> 00:32:42.339
  • >> that's right. >> love your new book just our
  • 00:32:42.472 --> 00:32:43.206
  • >> love your new book just our new tried and and true marriage
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  • New tried and and true marriage marriage advice from 12
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  • Marriage advice from 12 imperfect biblical couples.
  • 00:32:47.110 --> 00:32:47.677
  • Imperfect biblical couples. well.
  • 00:32:47.811 --> 00:32:50.280
  • Well. well, that should free us all.
  • 00:32:50.413 --> 00:32:51.081
  • Well, that should free us all. there's not going to be any
  • 00:32:51.214 --> 00:32:51.781
  • There's not going to be any great comparison or judgment in
  • 00:32:51.915 --> 00:32:53.216
  • Great comparison or judgment in in this but there is going to
  • 00:32:53.350 --> 00:32:54.084
  • In this but there is going to be great wisdom.
  • 00:32:54.217 --> 00:32:54.551
  • Be great wisdom. the book is available wherever
  • 00:32:54.684 --> 00:32:57.354
  • The book is available wherever are sold and we're just excited
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  • Are sold and we're just excited with the message you bring us.
  • 00:32:58.288 --> 00:32:58.855
  • With the message you bring us. >> thank you.
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  • >> thank you. thank you so much.
  • 00:32:59.422 --> 00:33:01.324
  • Thank you so much. >> yeah.
  • 00:33:01.458 --> 00:33:01.658
  • >> yeah. so get your book, gordon.
  • 00:33:01.791 --> 00:33:02.359
  • So get your book, gordon. well well, still ahead a pastor
  • 00:33:02.492 --> 00:33:04.894
  • Well well, still ahead a pastor has an affair with a woman and
  • 00:33:05.028 --> 00:33:05.729
  • Has an affair with a woman and his congregation and his wife
  • 00:33:05.862 --> 00:33:08.798
  • His congregation and his wife is clueless until a dream
  • 00:33:08.932 --> 00:33:09.532
  • Is clueless until a dream reveals.
  • 00:33:09.666 --> 00:33:12.769
  • Reveals. watch what happens next.
  • 00:33:12.902 --> 00:33:13.436
  • Watch what happens next. .
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  • . >> that's later on today's show
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  • Help you on your journey preparing this season so that
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  • Preparing this season so that your soul can flourish at
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  • Your soul can flourish at easter.
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  • Easter. >> welcome back to the 700 club
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  • >> welcome back to the 700 club for the cbn news break.
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  • For the cbn news break. the environmental protection
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  • The environmental protection agency has repealed the
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  • Agency has repealed the endangerment finding from the
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  • Endangerment finding from the obama administration.
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  • Obama administration. that measure said greenhouse
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  • That measure said greenhouse gases were a threat to public
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  • Gases were a threat to public health and welfare.
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  • Health and welfare. the finding served as the basis
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  • The finding served as the basis for climate regulations
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  • For climate regulations including on fossil fuels and
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  • Including on fossil fuels and power plants.
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  • Power plants. president donald trump said the
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  • President donald trump said the finding quote had no basis in
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  • Finding quote had no basis in fact whatsoever and it led to
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  • Fact whatsoever and it led to crippling restrictions
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  • Crippling restrictions including some that increase
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  • Including some that increase car.
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  • Car. he added the move will lower
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  • He added the move will lower the average cost of a new by
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  • The average cost of a new by nearly $3,000.
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  • Nearly $3,000. the administration's action is
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  • The administration's action is expected to face some legal
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  • Expected to face some legal challenges.
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  • Challenges. >> nearly two thousand young
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  • >> nearly two thousand young people gave their lives to
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  • People gave their lives to christ or made renewed
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  • Christ or made renewed commitments of faith.
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  • Commitments of faith. at a recent large evangelistic
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  • At a recent large evangelistic event in london, the rally was
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  • Event in london, the rally was led 819 church, a congregation
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  • Led 819 church, a congregation based in the united states and
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  • Based in the united states and atlanta in fact bringing its
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  • Atlanta in fact bringing its public evangelism focus to the
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  • Public evangelism focus to the the uk.
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  • The uk. the gathering drew a
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  • The gathering drew a predominantly young adult
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  • Predominantly young adult audience and produced one of
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  • Audience and produced one of the most significant public
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  • The most significant public faith responses in london in
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  • Faith responses in london in recent years with prayer teams
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  • Recent years with prayer teams and changed lives.
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  • And changed lives. you can find the full the full
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  • You can find the full the full story on this amazing event and
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  • Well today, they no longer have to make that journey thanks to
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  • Village. >> rosa a single parent raising
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  • The buckets are heavy as the sun beats down on us.
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  • Sun beats down on us. he's brown and muddy.
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  • He's brown and muddy. sometimes there is no no water
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  • Sometimes there is no no water at all.
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  • At all. >> rosa boils and treats the
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  • >> rosa boils and treats the water she.
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  • Water she. she does everything she can to
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  • She does everything she can to make it safe but the kids keep
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  • Make it safe but the kids keep getting anyway.
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  • Getting anyway. >> the water here is not clean
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  • >> the water here is not clean .
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  • . it smells bad.
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  • It smells bad. when my children get sick it
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  • When my children get sick it rips my heart out.
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  • Rips my heart out. they get stomachaches and
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  • Diarrhea. i cannot afford medicine so i
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  • I cannot afford medicine so i look for for healing plants and
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  • Look for for healing plants and i pray.
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  • I pray. >> i pray to god a lot then
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  • >> i pray to god a lot then thanks to you.
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  • Thanks to you. >> operation blessing came to
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  • >> operation blessing came to rosa's and installed a water
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  • Rosa's and installed a water collection and purification.
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  • Collection and purification. we also built her a shower and
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  • We also built her a shower and a bathroom.
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  • A bathroom. now that we have a water tank i
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  • Now that we have a water tank i don't have to haul buckets
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  • Anymore. there is plenty for our needs.
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  • There is plenty for our needs. i can now get the housework
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  • Knowing they're safe. now i can drink a lot of water.
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  • Now i can drink a lot of water. it like a little miracle.
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  • It like a little miracle. >> thank you so much to who
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  • >> thank you so much to who gave us this clean water.
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  • Gave us this clean water. i can't thank.
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  • I can't thank. >> well, they're in mexico.
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  • >> well, they're in mexico. they're calling out little and
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  • You and it's like oh this will never be the same again.
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  • Never be the same again. noel and shelley rizzio had
  • 00:42:17.783 --> 00:42:18.384
  • Noel and shelley rizzio had been dating eight years when
  • 00:42:18.517 --> 00:42:21.253
  • Been dating eight years when they gave their lives to christ
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  • They gave their lives to christ 2013 shortly after they tied
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  • 2013 shortly after they tied the knot their new faith the
  • 00:42:24.557 --> 00:42:27.893
  • The knot their new faith the couple poured their hearts into
  • 00:42:28.027 --> 00:42:28.661
  • Couple poured their hearts into church ministry.
  • 00:42:28.794 --> 00:42:31.797
  • Church ministry. >> it would lay a foundation
  • 00:42:31.931 --> 00:42:32.732
  • >> it would lay a foundation for their love.
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  • For their love. church heaven.
  • 00:42:33.332 --> 00:42:35.835
  • Church heaven. >> it really felt like an
  • 00:42:35.968 --> 00:42:36.869
  • >> it really felt like an escape from the street life
  • 00:42:37.003 --> 00:42:40.072
  • Escape from the street life that i had grew up living.
  • 00:42:40.206 --> 00:42:40.740
  • That i had grew up living. >> i someone that love god more
  • 00:42:40.873 --> 00:42:43.576
  • >> i someone that love god more than than he would love me.
  • 00:42:43.709 --> 00:42:46.545
  • Than than he would love me. >> and i saw all of those
  • 00:42:46.679 --> 00:42:47.413
  • >> and i saw all of those photos.
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  • Photos. two years later they had their
  • 00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:49.782
  • Two years later they had their first child.
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  • First child. the celebration however was
  • 00:42:50.349 --> 00:42:52.852
  • The celebration however was short lived as shelley battled
  • 00:42:52.985 --> 00:42:53.586
  • Short lived as shelley battled postpartum depression in the
  • 00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:56.555
  • Postpartum depression in the months that followed.
  • 00:42:56.689 --> 00:42:57.123
  • Months that followed. their marriage began to
  • 00:42:57.256 --> 00:42:57.757
  • Their marriage began to fracture like my whole world
  • 00:42:57.890 --> 00:43:01.293
  • Fracture like my whole world flipped upside down.
  • 00:43:01.427 --> 00:43:01.861
  • Flipped upside down. >> i didn't even know who i was
  • 00:43:01.994 --> 00:43:02.795
  • >> i didn't even know who i was and was.
  • 00:43:02.928 --> 00:43:04.230
  • And was. and it's like a shower.
  • 00:43:04.363 --> 00:43:04.864
  • And it's like a shower. she was colicky so she would
  • 00:43:04.997 --> 00:43:05.798
  • She was colicky so she would cry a lot.
  • 00:43:05.931 --> 00:43:08.034
  • Cry a lot. i was sleepless and i had no
  • 00:43:08.167 --> 00:43:09.101
  • I was sleepless and i had no idea i couldn't even attend to
  • 00:43:09.235 --> 00:43:13.072
  • Idea i couldn't even attend to my husband or even think about
  • 00:43:13.205 --> 00:43:13.806
  • My husband or even think about going back to work was a
  • 00:43:13.939 --> 00:43:16.375
  • Going back to work was a complete nightmare and i felt
  • 00:43:16.509 --> 00:43:17.076
  • Complete nightmare and i felt very isolated and depressed,
  • 00:43:17.209 --> 00:43:19.879
  • Very isolated and depressed, felt powerless.
  • 00:43:20.012 --> 00:43:20.346
  • Felt powerless. i really wanted to help her as
  • 00:43:20.479 --> 00:43:23.482
  • I really wanted to help her as her as best as i could as a
  • 00:43:23.616 --> 00:43:24.383
  • Her as best as i could as a husband.
  • 00:43:24.517 --> 00:43:24.717
  • Husband. i thought that the deeper i
  • 00:43:24.850 --> 00:43:25.418
  • I thought that the deeper i dived into ministry the closer
  • 00:43:25.551 --> 00:43:28.187
  • Dived into ministry the closer i got to the solution.
  • 00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:28.788
  • I got to the solution. i neglected my marital duty.
  • 00:43:28.921 --> 00:43:31.657
  • I neglected my marital duty. i neglected my duty at home and
  • 00:43:31.791 --> 00:43:35.361
  • I neglected my duty at home and what i should the energy and
  • 00:43:35.494 --> 00:43:36.195
  • What i should the energy and the resources that i should
  • 00:43:36.328 --> 00:43:39.665
  • The resources that i should have used at home.
  • 00:43:39.799 --> 00:43:40.199
  • Have used at home. i was invested in the ministry
  • 00:43:40.332 --> 00:43:42.768
  • I was invested in the ministry at the church during this
  • 00:43:42.902 --> 00:43:43.436
  • At the church during this vulnerable time.
  • 00:43:43.569 --> 00:43:43.903
  • Vulnerable time. >> a woman expressed her
  • 00:43:44.036 --> 00:43:46.972
  • >> a woman expressed her attraction to noel offering he
  • 00:43:47.106 --> 00:43:50.342
  • Attraction to noel offering he craved.
  • 00:43:50.476 --> 00:43:50.676
  • Craved. >> i started to feel like i i
  • 00:43:50.810 --> 00:43:54.346
  • >> i started to feel like i i was wanted like somebody looked
  • 00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:55.147
  • Was wanted like somebody looked at me with desire.
  • 00:43:55.281 --> 00:43:58.017
  • At me with desire. >> this woman made me feel as
  • 00:43:58.150 --> 00:43:58.984
  • >> this woman made me feel as if i a champion.
  • 00:43:59.118 --> 00:44:02.054
  • If i a champion. >> it was then an off and on
  • 00:44:02.188 --> 00:44:03.222
  • >> it was then an off and on affair.
  • 00:44:03.355 --> 00:44:05.858
  • Affair. eventually shelley's intuition
  • 00:44:05.991 --> 00:44:06.559
  • Eventually shelley's intuition sparked by a dream led her to
  • 00:44:06.692 --> 00:44:10.496
  • Sparked by a dream led her to discover texts between noel and
  • 00:44:10.629 --> 00:44:14.033
  • Discover texts between noel and the other woman.
  • 00:44:14.166 --> 00:44:14.533
  • The other woman. >> here i am.
  • 00:44:14.667 --> 00:44:14.967
  • >> here i am. i feel burdened.
  • 00:44:15.101 --> 00:44:15.468
  • I feel burdened. i feel alone.
  • 00:44:15.601 --> 00:44:18.070
  • I feel alone. i feel isolated.
  • 00:44:18.204 --> 00:44:18.637
  • I feel isolated. part of me felt like it's time
  • 00:44:18.771 --> 00:44:19.472
  • Part of me felt like it's time to let go up.
  • 00:44:19.605 --> 00:44:22.108
  • To let go up. and then there was a part of me
  • 00:44:22.241 --> 00:44:23.109
  • And then there was a part of me that felt like no, you your
  • 00:44:23.242 --> 00:44:25.444
  • That felt like no, you your marriage.
  • 00:44:25.578 --> 00:44:25.811
  • Marriage. god is going to restore you
  • 00:44:25.945 --> 00:44:26.512
  • God is going to restore you guys.
  • 00:44:26.645 --> 00:44:26.812
  • Guys. initially her discovery a
  • 00:44:26.946 --> 00:44:29.782
  • Initially her discovery a secret to see where the
  • 00:44:29.915 --> 00:44:30.416
  • Secret to see where the relationship would would go.
  • 00:44:30.549 --> 00:44:33.486
  • Relationship would would go. then her depression subsided
  • 00:44:33.619 --> 00:44:34.186
  • Then her depression subsided and was was replaced by a cold
  • 00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:37.823
  • And was was replaced by a cold indifference toward noel.
  • 00:44:37.957 --> 00:44:38.457
  • Indifference toward noel. finally of of humans.
  • 00:44:38.591 --> 00:44:41.594
  • Finally of of humans. >> after finding the text she
  • 00:44:41.727 --> 00:44:42.361
  • >> after finding the text she confronted him.
  • 00:44:42.495 --> 00:44:42.828
  • Confronted him. my thought was is it over?
  • 00:44:42.962 --> 00:44:45.231
  • My thought was is it over? can it be fixed?
  • 00:44:45.364 --> 00:44:45.831
  • Can it be fixed? it's to say this but i never
  • 00:44:45.965 --> 00:44:49.068
  • It's to say this but i never stopped loving my wife even
  • 00:44:49.201 --> 00:44:49.802
  • Stopped loving my wife even though i was doing all the
  • 00:44:49.935 --> 00:44:52.671
  • Though i was doing all the things i was doing.
  • 00:44:52.805 --> 00:44:53.205
  • Things i was doing. i'm already confused.
  • 00:44:53.339 --> 00:44:53.772
  • I'm already confused. i'm already broken lost.
  • 00:44:53.906 --> 00:44:57.109
  • I'm already broken lost. and i decided just to step
  • 00:44:57.243 --> 00:44:57.877
  • And i decided just to step forward and say whatever is
  • 00:44:58.010 --> 00:45:00.846
  • Forward and say whatever is going to happen is going to
  • 00:45:00.980 --> 00:45:01.580
  • Going to happen is going to happen.
  • 00:45:01.714 --> 00:45:01.914
  • Happen. and if i end up leaving, i end
  • 00:45:02.047 --> 00:45:02.681
  • And if i end up leaving, i end up leaving.
  • 00:45:02.815 --> 00:45:03.082
  • Up leaving. what's my next step and god
  • 00:45:03.215 --> 00:45:05.551
  • What's my next step and god told me to be still.
  • 00:45:05.684 --> 00:45:06.152
  • Told me to be still. he doesn't need you to nag him.
  • 00:45:06.285 --> 00:45:08.787
  • He doesn't need you to nag him. >> he just needs a friend.
  • 00:45:08.921 --> 00:45:09.555
  • >> he just needs a friend. the couple began opening their
  • 00:45:09.688 --> 00:45:11.790
  • The couple began opening their thoughts and feelings.
  • 00:45:11.924 --> 00:45:12.358
  • Thoughts and feelings. meanwhile the off and on affair
  • 00:45:12.491 --> 00:45:15.895
  • Meanwhile the off and on affair continued eventually with
  • 00:45:16.028 --> 00:45:18.964
  • Continued eventually with guilt.
  • 00:45:19.098 --> 00:45:19.265
  • Guilt. noel left church and went, went
  • 00:45:19.398 --> 00:45:22.535
  • Noel left church and went, went back to his old ways drinking
  • 00:45:22.668 --> 00:45:23.302
  • Back to his old ways drinking and doing drugs helped me numb
  • 00:45:23.435 --> 00:45:26.872
  • And doing drugs helped me numb the pain.
  • 00:45:27.006 --> 00:45:29.909
  • The pain. the pain brought so much
  • 00:45:30.042 --> 00:45:30.743
  • The pain brought so much desperation that i could not
  • 00:45:30.876 --> 00:45:34.313
  • Desperation that i could not process my thoughts.
  • 00:45:34.446 --> 00:45:34.880
  • Process my thoughts. i was afraid i would lose my
  • 00:45:35.014 --> 00:45:37.716
  • I was afraid i would lose my family every day of that affair
  • 00:45:37.850 --> 00:45:40.886
  • Family every day of that affair so many times i was ready.
  • 00:45:41.020 --> 00:45:41.587
  • So many times i was ready. >> i was ready to pack up and
  • 00:45:41.720 --> 00:45:42.555
  • >> i was ready to pack up and go.
  • 00:45:42.688 --> 00:45:42.821
  • Go. i said no more.
  • 00:45:44.323 --> 00:45:44.990
  • I said no more. >> god you can figure it out
  • 00:45:45.124 --> 00:45:45.858
  • >> god you can figure it out later if it's your petition but
  • 00:45:45.991 --> 00:45:48.727
  • Later if it's your petition but i'm getting out of this house
  • 00:45:48.861 --> 00:45:49.461
  • I'm getting out of this house and that's not i want it for
  • 00:45:49.595 --> 00:45:52.231
  • And that's not i want it for me.
  • 00:45:52.364 --> 00:45:52.498
  • Me. >> the sporadic affair had
  • 00:45:52.631 --> 00:45:54.700
  • >> the sporadic affair had lasted two years before noel
  • 00:45:54.833 --> 00:45:55.401
  • Lasted two years before noel found the resolve to cut with
  • 00:45:55.534 --> 00:45:59.038
  • Found the resolve to cut with the woman.
  • 00:45:59.171 --> 00:45:59.438
  • The woman. >> repenting for his sins he he
  • 00:45:59.572 --> 00:46:02.341
  • >> repenting for his sins he he recommitted his life and love
  • 00:46:02.474 --> 00:46:03.075
  • Recommitted his life and love to shelley his family and god.
  • 00:46:03.209 --> 00:46:06.145
  • To shelley his family and god. when god forgave me i felt like
  • 00:46:06.278 --> 00:46:07.012
  • When god forgave me i felt like i got my integrity.
  • 00:46:07.146 --> 00:46:09.949
  • I got my integrity. i felt like i wasn't a broken
  • 00:46:10.082 --> 00:46:11.016
  • I felt like i wasn't a broken man damaged goods and god
  • 00:46:11.150 --> 00:46:14.386
  • Man damaged goods and god restored me and forgave me.
  • 00:46:14.520 --> 00:46:15.054
  • Restored me and forgave me. >> i felt like i could i could
  • 00:46:15.187 --> 00:46:17.590
  • >> i felt like i could i could finally become whole again.
  • 00:46:17.723 --> 00:46:18.290
  • Finally become whole again. >> again shelley turned to god
  • 00:46:18.424 --> 00:46:21.126
  • >> again shelley turned to god this time asking him to help
  • 00:46:21.260 --> 00:46:21.860
  • This time asking him to help her forgive trust and love her
  • 00:46:21.994 --> 00:46:25.531
  • Her forgive trust and love her husband once again.
  • 00:46:25.664 --> 00:46:26.098
  • Husband once again. >> and michael didn't
  • 00:46:26.232 --> 00:46:28.534
  • >> and michael didn't bitterness and hate and
  • 00:46:28.667 --> 00:46:29.168
  • Bitterness and hate and resentment for all that he did
  • 00:46:29.301 --> 00:46:30.002
  • Resentment for all that he did and and god said absolutely.
  • 00:46:30.135 --> 00:46:32.938
  • And and god said absolutely. >> so i started to take all
  • 00:46:33.072 --> 00:46:33.739
  • >> so i started to take all these different leaps and
  • 00:46:33.872 --> 00:46:36.175
  • These different leaps and really like move forward to be
  • 00:46:36.308 --> 00:46:36.942
  • Really like move forward to be more gentle like having
  • 00:46:37.076 --> 00:46:39.979
  • More gentle like having physical touch and being
  • 00:46:40.112 --> 00:46:40.579
  • Physical touch and being present with one another.
  • 00:46:40.713 --> 00:46:41.247
  • Present with one another. >> we started going on dates.
  • 00:46:41.380 --> 00:46:43.515
  • >> we started going on dates. we continue our nighttime
  • 00:46:43.649 --> 00:46:44.216
  • We continue our nighttime conversations and that's where
  • 00:46:44.350 --> 00:46:47.319
  • Conversations and that's where to get soft again.
  • 00:46:47.453 --> 00:46:47.853
  • To get soft again. >> the couple rebuild their
  • 00:46:47.987 --> 00:46:48.587
  • >> the couple rebuild their marriage over over the next two
  • 00:46:48.721 --> 00:46:51.357
  • Marriage over over the next two years finding strength through
  • 00:46:51.490 --> 00:46:52.091
  • Years finding strength through their faith in jesus christ.
  • 00:46:52.224 --> 00:46:55.561
  • Their faith in jesus christ. >> when i saw him restore my
  • 00:46:55.694 --> 00:46:56.428
  • >> when i saw him restore my marriage i said there is
  • 00:46:56.562 --> 00:46:57.162
  • Marriage i said there is literally nothing impossible
  • 00:46:57.296 --> 00:46:59.798
  • Literally nothing impossible for god and part of being a
  • 00:46:59.932 --> 00:47:00.666
  • For god and part of being a christian is is to forgive and
  • 00:47:00.799 --> 00:47:03.435
  • Christian is is to forgive and when you encounter that moment
  • 00:47:03.569 --> 00:47:04.169
  • When you encounter that moment jesus is expecting us just like
  • 00:47:04.303 --> 00:47:07.840
  • Jesus is expecting us just like he did with us.
  • 00:47:07.973 --> 00:47:08.307
  • He did with us. so be loving to be merciful to
  • 00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:11.377
  • So be loving to be merciful to provide for that person.
  • 00:47:11.510 --> 00:47:12.011
  • Provide for that person. it's in your ability to do so.
  • 00:47:12.144 --> 00:47:12.778
  • It's in your ability to do so. so to do that for my husband.
  • 00:47:12.911 --> 00:47:16.115
  • So to do that for my husband. >> i feel like me and my wife
  • 00:47:16.248 --> 00:47:18.751
  • >> i feel like me and my wife fight against anything.
  • 00:47:18.884 --> 00:47:19.351
  • Fight against anything. we were in love.
  • 00:47:19.485 --> 00:47:22.855
  • We were in love. >> we didn't know what our love
  • 00:47:22.988 --> 00:47:23.822
  • >> we didn't know what our love could handle.
  • 00:47:23.956 --> 00:47:24.256
  • Could handle. noel and shelley story is a
  • 00:47:24.390 --> 00:47:26.692
  • Noel and shelley story is a testament to god's power to
  • 00:47:26.825 --> 00:47:27.393
  • Testament to god's power to heal by surrendering struggles.
  • 00:47:27.526 --> 00:47:30.095
  • Heal by surrendering struggles. >> they saw ashes turn to
  • 00:47:30.229 --> 00:47:30.863
  • >> they saw ashes turn to beauty.
  • 00:47:30.996 --> 00:47:31.196
  • Beauty. we run away from the pain but
  • 00:47:33.832 --> 00:47:34.767
  • We run away from the pain but god says lean into it so you.
  • 00:47:34.900 --> 00:47:37.636
  • God says lean into it so you. you can see what i'm going to
  • 00:47:37.770 --> 00:47:38.470
  • You can see what i'm going to do.
  • 00:47:38.604 --> 00:47:38.737
  • Do. and that's where you see his
  • 00:47:38.871 --> 00:47:39.438
  • And that's where you see his miracles happen.
  • 00:47:39.571 --> 00:47:39.905
  • Miracles happen. that good that he can extend
  • 00:47:40.039 --> 00:47:41.307
  • That good that he can extend his goodness into into the bad
  • 00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:44.943
  • His goodness into into the bad and brokenness and still use it
  • 00:47:45.077 --> 00:47:45.711
  • And brokenness and still use it for good.
  • 00:47:45.844 --> 00:47:46.078
  • For good. he did it from my marriage he
  • 00:47:46.211 --> 00:47:46.945
  • He did it from my marriage he can do it for anyone.
  • 00:47:47.079 --> 00:47:51.016
  • Can do it for anyone. >> want to share two scriptures
  • 00:47:51.150 --> 00:47:51.850
  • >> want to share two scriptures with you?
  • 00:47:51.984 --> 00:47:52.217
  • With you? what the enemy meant for evil.
  • 00:47:52.351 --> 00:47:54.753
  • What the enemy meant for evil. god meant for good.
  • 00:47:54.887 --> 00:47:55.321
  • God meant for good. he will take it if you'll give
  • 00:47:55.454 --> 00:47:58.791
  • He will take it if you'll give it to him.
  • 00:47:58.924 --> 00:47:59.191
  • It to him. >> and then you know the other
  • 00:47:59.325 --> 00:48:01.694
  • >> and then you know the other is that all things can work
  • 00:48:01.827 --> 00:48:02.461
  • Is that all things can work together for good good to those
  • 00:48:02.594 --> 00:48:05.698
  • Together for good good to those who love god and are called
  • 00:48:05.831 --> 00:48:06.398
  • Who love god and are called according to his purposes the
  • 00:48:06.532 --> 00:48:09.134
  • According to his purposes the key is in giving it to him.
  • 00:48:09.268 --> 00:48:09.902
  • Key is in giving it to him. the key is in standing.
  • 00:48:10.035 --> 00:48:12.438
  • The key is in standing. you've made a commitment to
  • 00:48:12.571 --> 00:48:13.138
  • You've made a commitment to covenant.
  • 00:48:13.272 --> 00:48:13.505
  • Covenant. you've taken vows and life
  • 00:48:13.639 --> 00:48:16.575
  • You've taken vows and life happens.
  • 00:48:16.709 --> 00:48:16.909
  • Happens. you know have a baby in a
  • 00:48:17.042 --> 00:48:20.379
  • You know have a baby in a relationship and the whole
  • 00:48:20.512 --> 00:48:21.013
  • Relationship and the whole world turns upside.
  • 00:48:21.146 --> 00:48:24.049
  • World turns upside. eventually it's in a pretty
  • 00:48:24.183 --> 00:48:24.750
  • Eventually it's in a pretty wonderful way but initially you
  • 00:48:24.883 --> 00:48:28.487
  • Wonderful way but initially you know the woman is so drawn and
  • 00:48:28.620 --> 00:48:29.321
  • Know the woman is so drawn and attached to the baby the
  • 00:48:29.455 --> 00:48:29.988
  • Attached to the baby the husband feels she's dealing
  • 00:48:30.122 --> 00:48:32.057
  • Husband feels she's dealing with hormones flying up and
  • 00:48:32.191 --> 00:48:32.758
  • With hormones flying up and down and every way and not
  • 00:48:32.891 --> 00:48:36.261
  • Down and every way and not knowing emotionally where she's
  • 00:48:36.395 --> 00:48:36.995
  • Knowing emotionally where she's coming from.
  • 00:48:37.129 --> 00:48:37.396
  • Coming from. you just hang on first to god
  • 00:48:39.164 --> 00:48:42.501
  • You just hang on first to god and then to each other.
  • 00:48:42.634 --> 00:48:43.168
  • And then to each other. when we were talking to dana
  • 00:48:43.302 --> 00:48:46.205
  • When we were talking to dana earlier about her book, one of
  • 00:48:46.338 --> 00:48:46.939
  • Earlier about her book, one of the things i thought was
  • 00:48:47.072 --> 00:48:47.573
  • The things i thought was sometimes we'd talking to each
  • 00:48:47.706 --> 00:48:50.042
  • Sometimes we'd talking to each other we're just dealing
  • 00:48:50.175 --> 00:48:53.212
  • Other we're just dealing situations and circumstances
  • 00:48:53.345 --> 00:48:53.879
  • Situations and circumstances and we stopped talking to god
  • 00:48:54.012 --> 00:48:57.316
  • And we stopped talking to god in the process to, you know,
  • 00:48:57.449 --> 00:48:57.983
  • In the process to, you know, keeping the of communication
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  • Keeping the of communication open first and then with each
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  • Open first and then with each other is key and keeping your
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  • Other is key and keeping your marriage together.
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  • Marriage together. but one of the things i love
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  • But one of the things i love about their story about dana's
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  • About their story about dana's story that she shared earlier
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  • Story that she shared earlier is that when it seems like all
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  • Is that when it seems like all hope is lost when it's gone so
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  • Hope is lost when it's gone so far away from away from each
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  • Far away from away from each other you feel like this this
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  • Other you feel like this this cannot resurrected but that's
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  • Cannot resurrected but that's not what god says.
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  • Not what god says. >> give it to him.
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  • >> give it to him. trust in the lord with all all
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  • Trust in the lord with all all your heart.
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  • Your heart. don't lean on your own
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  • Don't lean on your own understanding in all your
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  • Understanding in all your acknowledge him and he will
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  • Acknowledge him and he will direct your path.
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  • Direct your path. god has a plan and a purpose
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  • God has a plan and a purpose when you made that commitment
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  • When you made that commitment to each other you really that
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  • To each other you really that vow that you take that covenant
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  • Vow that you take that covenant is not with the government.
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  • Is not with the government. it's not with the city or the
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  • It's not with the city or the states you live in.
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  • States you live in. it's not with the pastor or
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  • It's not with the pastor or priest who stands before it's
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  • Priest who stands before it's before god that you say those
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  • Before god that you say those things to each other.
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  • Things to each other. so at your deepest point when
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  • So at your deepest point when you're so far down in the well
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  • You're so far down in the well you feel like you can't look up
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  • You feel like you can't look up and see light anymore.
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  • And see light anymore. there is light.
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  • There is light. the light is in him.
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  • The light is in him. first you go to him he changes
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  • First you go to him he changes things he changes our hearts,
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  • Things he changes our hearts, he changes our circumstances,
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  • He changes our circumstances, he changes the other person and
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  • He changes the other person and there's sometimes there's a
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  • There's sometimes there's a long middle there you know it
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  • Long middle there you know it doesn't just happen overnight
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  • Doesn't just happen overnight as dana said.
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  • As dana said. you didn't lose you're not
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  • You didn't lose you're not going to get it back overnight.
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  • Going to get it back overnight. you have to be intentional
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  • You have to be intentional about doing what you know is a
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  • About doing what you know is a commitment what you know have
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  • Commitment what you know have you do and there is a freedom
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  • You do and there is a freedom in that as noelle suggested
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  • In that as noelle suggested when when i came back it was
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  • When when i came back it was lifted off of me.
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  • Lifted off of me. i i felt like i had integrity
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  • I i felt like i had integrity because with jesus you get a
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  • Because with jesus you get a new beginning, you get a start
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  • New beginning, you get a start .
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  • . you get to start over
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  • You get to start over recognizing the mistakes you
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  • Recognizing the mistakes you made so you get to go back and
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  • Made so you get to go back and redo.
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  • Redo. >> you get to start fresh and
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  • >> you get to start fresh and you get to do it the right way.
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  • You get to do it the right way. if your your marriage is
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  • If your your marriage is falling apart.
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  • Falling apart. let jesus put it back together
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  • Let jesus put it back together .
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  • . >> god's idea was marriage and
  • 00:51:05.043 --> 00:51:05.644
  • >> god's idea was marriage and family and so he knows how to
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  • Family and so he knows how to resolve the issues that have
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  • Resolve the issues that have challenged you know, take it to
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  • Challenged you know, take it to him in prayer, take it to him
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  • Him in prayer, take it to him in prayer prayer.
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  • In prayer prayer. he's waiting.
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  • He's waiting. prayer is such a you know, we
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  • Prayer is such a you know, we think of it sometimes as i need
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  • Think of it sometimes as i need to take time to pray prayers, a
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  • To take time to pray prayers, a conversation with god just talk
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  • Conversation with god just talk to him about it.
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  • To him about it. he's always available always
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  • He's always available always listening and he always wants
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  • Listening and he always wants the for us.
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  • The for us. you know the bible says that
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  • You know the bible says that god hates divorce.
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  • God hates divorce. know that i believe but.
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  • Know that i believe but. but a while ago it was gordon
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  • But a while ago it was gordon who taught me that the
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  • Who taught me that the scripture says says why does he
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  • Scripture says says why does he hate divorce?
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  • Hate divorce? because he wants righteous
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  • Because he wants righteous children.
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  • Children. you know you may think your
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  • You know you may think your divorce or the potential of
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  • Divorce or the potential of thinking about doesn't affect
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  • Thinking about doesn't affect your kids.
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  • Your kids. oh it will.
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  • Oh it will. it will.
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  • It will. so do the right thing with god
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  • So do the right thing with god and he will do the right thing
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  • And he will do the right thing in your.
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  • Difference. here's a word from first john
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  • Here's a word from first john god is love and he abides in
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