July 17, 2025

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  • . the following program is
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  • The following program is sponsored by cbn.
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  • Sponsored by cbn. >> coming up why the locker
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  • >> coming up why the locker room talk that sparked national
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  • Room talk that sparked national outrage.
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  • Outrage. also a her three boys facing
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  • Also a her three boys facing expulsion over a school's
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  • Expulsion over a school's gender policy.
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  • Gender policy. be quiet.
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  • Be quiet. shut up.
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  • Shut up. don't speak comply as the law
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  • Don't speak comply as the law is being used to target
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  • Is being used to target christian beliefs.
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  • Christian beliefs. inside the fight.
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  • Inside the fight. coming to a school near are
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  • Coming to a school near are terrified to speak up because
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  • Terrified to speak up because walk without.
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  • Walk without. >> on today's 700 club.
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  • >> on today's 700 club. well welcome to the 700 club.
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  • Well welcome to the 700 club. >> president trump calls the
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  • >> president trump calls the control over the epstein files
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  • Control over the epstein files a scam and a hoax cooked up by
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  • A scam and a hoax cooked up by the democrats.
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  • The democrats. >> the president is also
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  • >> the president is also shaming who want the files
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  • Shaming who want the files released calling them stupid
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  • Released calling them stupid and foolish.
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  • And foolish. >> george thomas has the
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  • >> george thomas has the details for president trump
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  • Details for president trump isn't holding back blasting
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  • Isn't holding back blasting those who buy what he calls a
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  • Those who buy what he calls a hoax even calling some of his
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  • Hoax even calling some of his own supporters weaklings while
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  • Own supporters weaklings while caring about the epstein
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  • Caring about the epstein controversy.
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  • Controversy. their new scam is what we will
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  • Their new scam is what we will forever call the jeffrey
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  • Forever call the jeffrey epstein hoax.
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  • Epstein hoax. and my past supporters have
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  • And my past supporters have bought into this b.s. hook,
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  • Bought into this b.s. hook, line and sinker.
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  • Line and sinker. the president wrote untruths
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  • The president wrote untruths social.
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  • Social. >> mr. president, mr.
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  • >> mr. president, mr. president, i know you want to.
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  • President, i know you want to. and he didn't stop there.
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  • And he didn't stop there. the president's reaction from
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  • The president's reaction from the oval office wednesday.
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  • The oval office wednesday. it's all been a big hoax.
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  • It's all been a big hoax. it's perpetrated by the
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  • It's perpetrated by the democrats and some republicans
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  • Democrats and some republicans and foolish republicans fall
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  • And foolish republicans fall into the net and so they try
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  • Into the net and so they try and do the democrats work.
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  • And do the democrats work. >> the epstein files are court
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  • >> the epstein files are court records tied to jeffrey
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  • Records tied to jeffrey epstein's sex trafficking case
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  • Epstein's sex trafficking case that might reveal more about
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  • That might reveal more about what he did and who else was
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  • What he did and who else was involved.
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  • Involved. >> the trump administration
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  • >> the trump administration promised full release but few
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  • Promised full release but few details have come out and
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  • Details have come out and democrats accuse the
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  • Democrats accuse the administration of having
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  • Administration of having something to hide.
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  • Something to hide. some lawmakers want ghislaine
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  • Some lawmakers want ghislaine maxwell, the woman of helping
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  • Maxwell, the woman of helping epstein recruit and abuse
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  • Epstein recruit and abuse underage girls to testify and
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  • Underage girls to testify and shed more light on the case.
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  • Shed more light on the case. >> this is the worst the worst
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  • >> this is the worst the worst human trafficking rings in
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  • Human trafficking rings in american history run by this
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  • American history run by this scumbag and i think the more we
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  • Scumbag and i think the more we know about it, the more we get
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  • Know about it, the more we get out the better it is.
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  • Out the better it is. >> more republicans are joining
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  • >> more republicans are joining calls for transparency.
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  • Calls for transparency. you need to have all of the
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  • You need to have all of the credible information released
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  • Credible information released to the american people to make
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  • To the american people to make their decision.
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  • Their decision. >> we trust the american people
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  • >> we trust the american people .
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  • . >> attorney general pam bondi
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  • >> attorney general pam bondi has released only limited files
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  • Has released only limited files .
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  • . trump says she could share more
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  • Trump says she could share more if there's credible information
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  • If there's credible information .
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  • . >> george thomas cbs news.
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  • >> george thomas cbs news. well, cbn political analyst
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  • Well, cbn political analyst david brody joins us now for
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  • David brody joins us now for more on this story.
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  • More on this story. so the president's message that
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  • So the president's message that it's essentially from let's
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  • It's essentially from let's move on to a now a full scale
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  • Move on to a now a full scale attack.
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  • Attack. why such a strong reaction?
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  • Why such a strong reaction? >> well, gordon, he's upset.
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  • >> well, gordon, he's upset. he believes that, you know, the
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  • He believes that, you know, the administration has been
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  • Administration has been undefeated.
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  • Undefeated. >> you will in other words got
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  • >> you will in other words got off to a great six month plus
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  • Off to a great six month plus start.
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  • Start. and now he sees this as not
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  • And now he sees this as not just a sideshow but a sideshow
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  • Just a sideshow but a sideshow that won't away and he believes
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  • That won't away and he believes it's detracting to taking away
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  • It's detracting to taking away from all of the great things
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  • From all of the great things this administration has done.
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  • This administration has done. >> and he's got a point on
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  • >> and he's got a point on that.
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  • That. the problem here has always
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  • The problem here has always been the p.r. strategy strategy
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  • Been the p.r. strategy strategy to kind of combat the maga
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  • To kind of combat the maga faithful.
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  • Faithful. >> see see here's the the white
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  • >> see see here's the the white house has underestimated that
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  • House has underestimated that this is indeed important to
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  • This is indeed important to maga writ large specifically to
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  • Maga writ large specifically to about maybe 5 to 10% of maga.
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  • About maybe 5 to 10% of maga. >> that's their line in the
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  • >> that's their line in the sand overall maga still
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  • Sand overall maga still supports trump obviously but
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  • Supports trump obviously but the reason is not letting this
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  • The reason is not letting this go is because transparency and
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  • Go is because transparency and fighting the deep state has
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  • Fighting the deep state has been central to what maga has
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  • Been central to what maga has been all about.
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  • Been all about. and you have the most
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  • And you have the most transparent administration
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  • Transparent administration according to maga for these
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  • According to maga for these first six plus months and then
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  • First six plus months and then dot dot dot.
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  • Dot dot dot. >> wait a minute what happened
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  • >> wait a minute what happened to transparency?
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  • To transparency? and so it doesn't jive doesn't
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  • And so it doesn't jive doesn't add up.
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  • Add up. that's why they're not dropping
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  • That's why they're not dropping it not to mention and this is
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  • It not to mention and this is really the very important part
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  • Really the very important part the morality aspect of it we're
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  • The morality aspect of it we're talking about sex trafficking
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  • Talking about sex trafficking here minors.
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  • Here minors. this always been a moral
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  • This always been a moral crusade for many in maga making
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  • Crusade for many in maga making sure there's justice.
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  • Sure there's justice. they want to see justice and
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  • They want to see justice and that's something that you know
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  • That's something that you know the white has had a real
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  • The white has had a real problem with as it relates to
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  • Problem with as it relates to trying to figure out the
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  • Trying to figure out the strategy going forward on this.
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  • Strategy going forward on this. >> well, it just doesn't make
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  • >> well, it just doesn't make sense to me to to try to cover
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  • Sense to me to to try to cover up a what is i think quite
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  • Up a what is i think quite clearly a sex trafficking ring
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  • Clearly a sex trafficking ring you've.
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  • You've. got one person involved in it
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  • Got one person involved in it with a 20 year sentence the the
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  • With a 20 year sentence the the whole tale seems to be
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  • Whole tale seems to be incredibly sordid.
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  • Incredibly sordid. i mean isn't putting all of
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  • I mean isn't putting all of this in into the into the light
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  • This in into the into the light the only way to disinfect it
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  • The only way to disinfect it 100%?
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  • 100%? to be clear i think we needed
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  • To be clear i think we needed to take a step here and just
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  • To take a step here and just look at this is to say okay, we
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  • Look at this is to say okay, we may we the american people may
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  • May we the american people may not have all the information
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  • Not have all the information here you're basically going to
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  • Here you're basically going to be if you're in maga, you know
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  • Be if you're in maga, you know you have the right people
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  • You have the right people there.
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  • There. president trump, kash patel,
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  • President trump, kash patel, the fbi, dan bongino at the
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  • The fbi, dan bongino at the fbi, pam bondi to a degree at
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  • Fbi, pam bondi to a degree at the doj.
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  • The doj. so you think you have the right
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  • So you think you have the right people to expose all of this?
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  • People to expose all of this? so then the question well then
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  • So then the question well then if they're saying that there's
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  • If they're saying that there's not much there maybe they're
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  • Not much there maybe they're right this is something that
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  • Right this is something that maga and when i say maga let me
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  • Maga and when i say maga let me be clear i'm talking about that
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  • Be clear i'm talking about that five maybe 10% of maga that's
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  • Five maybe 10% of maga that's this the line the sand this is
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  • This the line the sand this is their issue they don't want to
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  • Their issue they don't want to hear that that maybe right they
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  • Hear that that maybe right they believe there's a list they
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  • Believe there's a list they believe there's lots of names.
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  • Believe there's lots of names. my sources are telling me that
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  • My sources are telling me that that may not actually be the
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  • That may not actually be the case that are definitely some
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  • Case that are definitely some names out there but any sort of
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  • Names out there but any sort of list doesn't really exist and i
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  • List doesn't really exist and i think that's what president
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  • Think that's what president trump is trying to say that the
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  • Trump is trying to say that the hoax part of this seems to be
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  • Hoax part of this seems to be the way he's president trump
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  • The way he's president trump has explained it is that there
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  • Has explained it is that there is no list and that the maga
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  • Is no list and that the maga has bought into this idea that
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  • Has bought into this idea that there is an actual list, there
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  • There is an actual list, there is a list is what is what many
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  • Is a list is what is what many in the administration are
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  • In the administration are saying and so therefore while
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  • Saying and so therefore while there might be some names that
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  • There might be some names that are still need to be redacted,
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  • Are still need to be redacted, if you will, an fbi affidavit
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  • If you will, an fbi affidavit in court, there is not that big
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  • In court, there is not that big big to do list that everybody
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  • Big to do list that everybody was waiting for and i think
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  • Was waiting for and i think that's part of it.
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  • That's part of it. >> but they need to be more
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  • >> but they need to be more clear on it and they haven't.
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  • Clear on it and they haven't. well, isn't pam bondi part of
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  • Well, isn't pam bondi part of the i mean if there's a hoax in
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  • The i mean if there's a hoax in any part of the politics i
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  • Any part of the politics i mean, you know, she said the
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  • Mean, you know, she said the list is on desk.
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  • List is on desk. you can't get any clearer than
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  • You can't get any clearer than that.
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  • That. and so now to come out and say
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  • And so now to come out and say well there isn't a list well
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  • Well there isn't a list well then you know, there's an
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  • Then you know, there's an obvious discrepancy between the
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  • Obvious discrepancy between the two.
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  • Two. so is is she going to survive?
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  • So is is she going to survive? >> is she going to make it
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  • >> is she going to make it through this controversy?
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  • Through this controversy? >> i think for now she will.
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  • >> i think for now she will. my spidey sense on this gordon
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  • My spidey sense on this gordon me we can rack this tape up in
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  • Me we can rack this tape up in about six months or so.
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  • About six months or so. we'll see.
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  • We'll see. i don't think ultimately she
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  • I don't think ultimately she will i think eventually i think
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  • Will i think eventually i think president trump doesn't want to
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  • President trump doesn't want to have the major distraction and
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  • Have the major distraction and be more than a distraction
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  • Be more than a distraction major problem, of letting his
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  • Major problem, of letting his attorney general go right now
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  • Attorney general go right now just six months into his
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  • Just six months into his administration.
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  • Administration. jeff sessions of course was let
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  • Jeff sessions of course was let go the first time around in his
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  • Go the first time around in his administration.
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  • Administration. i don't think he wants to see
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  • I don't think he wants to see that happen.
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  • That happen. do i think she'll survive for
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  • Do i think she'll survive for now?
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  • Now? yes.
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  • Yes. do do i think ultimately
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  • Do do i think ultimately survive?
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  • Survive? no, i don't think so.
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  • No, i don't think so. i think i think there's
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  • I think i think there's frustration for sure because
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  • Frustration for sure because look, pam bondi's big mistake
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  • Look, pam bondi's big mistake here is i mean to use a kind of
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  • Here is i mean to use a kind of a hollywood analogy you're
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  • A hollywood analogy you're going to say george clooney is
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  • Going to say george clooney is going to show up at a premiere
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  • Going to show up at a premiere and instead you get dom deluise
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  • And instead you get dom deluise .
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  • . >> womp womp.
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  • >> womp womp. you know, it's like you know,
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  • You know, it's like you know, wait a minute.
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  • Wait a minute. you can't promise clooney and
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  • You can't promise clooney and then not deliver clooney at the
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  • Then not deliver clooney at the premiere and that's exactly
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  • Premiere and that's exactly bondi did on multiple occasions
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  • Bondi did on multiple occasions not just with the maga
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  • Not just with the maga influencers as it relates to
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  • Influencers as it relates to those binders we saw them
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  • Those binders we saw them holding up saying here come the
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  • Holding up saying here come the epstein files.
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  • Epstein files. but where she actually said
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  • But where she actually said i've got the list right in
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  • I've got the list right in front of me and then she tried
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  • Front of me and then she tried backtrack that.
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  • Backtrack that. >> so yeah, i think she's in a
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  • >> so yeah, i think she's in a bit of trouble for sure.
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  • Bit of trouble for sure. well what's the way forward
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  • Well what's the way forward here?
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  • Here? >> are we going to see some
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  • >> are we going to see some kind of congressional do you
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  • Kind of congressional do you think that's on the horizon?
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  • Think that's on the horizon? do you think the fbi is going
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  • Do you think the fbi is going to act independently of, the
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  • To act independently of, the attorney general, do you think
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  • Attorney general, do you think they administration is going to
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  • They administration is going to reverse course and say let's
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  • Reverse course and say let's let's disclose this the the
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  • Let's disclose this the the horror of it goes on.
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  • Horror of it goes on. i mean one of the young girls
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  • I mean one of the young girls involved in it committed
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  • Involved in it committed suicide in australia.
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  • Suicide in australia. so the the damage to the women
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  • So the the damage to the women and the girls is is ongoing and
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  • And the girls is is ongoing and we're going to continually hear
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  • We're going to continually hear that and so at some point
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  • That and so at some point you've got to you know
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  • You've got to you know disinfected by full disclosure
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  • Disinfected by full disclosure so ones are going to happen and
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  • So ones are going to happen and how is it going to happen?
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  • How is it going to happen? >> well i think it will happen
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  • >> well i think it will happen obviously the timing on this
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  • Obviously the timing on this who exactly knows maybe in the
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  • Who exactly knows maybe in the next week.
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  • Next week. but my sense is is that whether
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  • But my sense is is that whether it would be pam bondi my guess
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  • It would be pam bondi my guess is it will be pam and others
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  • Is it will be pam and others who will have to come out and
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  • Who will have to come out and have some sort of rollout as to
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  • Have some sort of rollout as to some of these unanswered
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  • Some of these unanswered questions.
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  • Questions. >> what she could gordon, is
  • 00:09:08.542 --> 00:09:10.811
  • >> what she could gordon, is call on those judges.
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  • Call on those judges. they're the ones that have the
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  • They're the ones that have the power to in essence release the
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  • Power to in essence release the names of those that are in
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  • Names of those that are in those redacted fbi affidavit
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  • Those redacted fbi affidavit files.
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  • Files. the doj does not have that
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  • The doj does not have that power but the judges do.
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  • Power but the judges do. this is something alan
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  • This is something alan dershowitz has talked about
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  • Dershowitz has talked about before and that is true i have
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  • Before and that is true i have confirmed that in terms of the
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  • Confirmed that in terms of the judges being able to have that
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  • Judges being able to have that power so that that is something
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  • Power so that that is something she could call on and then of
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  • She could call on and then of course some things that she's
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  • Course some things that she's going to have to do with that
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  • Going to have to do with that press conference to soothe
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  • Press conference to soothe maggie, the other part of would
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  • Maggie, the other part of would be a potential special counsel
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  • Be a potential special counsel not necessarily on epstein but
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  • Not necessarily on epstein but more as we're starting to see a
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  • More as we're starting to see a deep state deep state counsel
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  • Deep state deep state counsel or, special counsel to look
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  • Or, special counsel to look into everything including
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  • Into everything including epstein things that have gone
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  • Epstein things that have gone on in the last ten years or so.
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  • On in the last ten years or so. >> well, there needs to be
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  • >> well, there needs to be examination of the plea the
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  • Examination of the plea the yeah, the state court
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  • Yeah, the state court proceeding all of these things
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  • Proceeding all of these things it just frankly from outside it
  • 00:10:00.160 --> 00:10:03.664
  • It just frankly from outside it just it looks like a huge mess
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  • Just it looks like a huge mess .
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  • . and my concern is is the
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  • And my concern is is the administration that losing
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  • Administration that losing credibility and will anything
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  • Credibility and will anything they do right now is going to
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  • They do right now is going to be viewed as as yet another
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  • Be viewed as as yet another cover up it.
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  • Cover up it. just i don't understand why you
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  • Just i don't understand why you would campaign on the issue you
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  • Would campaign on the issue you would say the list is on my
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  • Would say the list is on my desk.
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  • Desk. you would do those things and
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  • You would do those things and here we are at the revelation
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  • Here we are at the revelation moment and you pull all back.
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  • Moment and you pull all back. >> it just really doesn't make
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  • >> it just really doesn't make any sense to me incompetence i
  • 00:10:31.191 --> 00:10:33.894
  • Any sense to me incompetence i think at this point and i think
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  • Think at this point and i think a lot of it lies with pam bondi
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  • A lot of it lies with pam bondi and getting out ahead of the
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  • And getting out ahead of the skis on that.
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  • Skis on that. >> all right.
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  • >> all right. well david, thanks joining us.
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  • Well david, thanks joining us. >> it looks like you're going
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  • >> it looks like you're going to have an exciting year.
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  • To have an exciting year. oh, wait.
  • 00:10:42.903 --> 00:10:45.372
  • Oh, wait. >> all right.
  • 00:10:45.506 --> 00:10:45.839
  • >> all right. well let's turn to the middle
  • 00:10:45.973 --> 00:10:46.607
  • Well let's turn to the middle east.
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  • East. syrian forces begin pulling out
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  • Syrian forces begin pulling out of a contested border zone
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  • Of a contested border zone after airstrikes and the u.s.
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  • After airstrikes and the u.s. pressure.
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  • Pressure. chuck holton reports from
  • 00:10:53.547 --> 00:10:56.116
  • Chuck holton reports from jerusalem.
  • 00:10:56.250 --> 00:10:56.483
  • Jerusalem. >> syria's interim president
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  • >> syria's interim president announced a withdrawal of
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  • Announced a withdrawal of troops from sweida on wednesday
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  • Troops from sweida on wednesday hoping to calm sectarian unrest
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  • Hoping to calm sectarian unrest and foreign backlash.
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  • And foreign backlash. >> i specifically mention our
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  • >> i specifically mention our druze people who are an
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  • Druze people who are an integral part of the fabric of
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  • Integral part of the fabric of this nation and we assure you
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  • This nation and we assure you that protecting your rights and
  • 00:11:14.868 --> 00:11:15.502
  • That protecting your rights and freedom is our priority.
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  • Freedom is our priority. >> yesterday more than a
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  • >> yesterday more than a thousand israeli druze breached
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  • Thousand israeli druze breached the border fence crossing into
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  • The border fence crossing into syria to help fight for their
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  • Syria to help fight for their brethren.
  • 00:11:24.044 --> 00:11:24.278
  • Brethren. at the same time israeli
  • 00:11:24.411 --> 00:11:24.912
  • At the same time israeli airstrikes hit targets in
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  • Airstrikes hit targets in damascus including the ministry
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  • Damascus including the ministry of defense and the presidential
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  • Of defense and the presidential .
  • 00:11:33.487 --> 00:11:33.587
  • . >> a signal to the new regime
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  • >> a signal to the new regime that further violence in some
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  • That further violence in some way too would not be tolerated.
  • 00:11:38.525 --> 00:11:39.159
  • Way too would not be tolerated. >> the trump administration
  • 00:11:39.293 --> 00:11:41.361
  • >> the trump administration echoed that message wednesday.
  • 00:11:41.495 --> 00:11:42.095
  • Echoed that message wednesday. >> we are calling on the syrian
  • 00:11:42.229 --> 00:11:45.265
  • >> we are calling on the syrian government to in fact withdraw
  • 00:11:45.399 --> 00:11:46.033
  • Government to in fact withdraw their in order to enable all
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  • Their in order to enable all sides to de-escalate and find a
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  • Sides to de-escalate and find a path forward.
  • 00:11:52.873 --> 00:11:53.173
  • Path forward. >> meanwhile in jerusalem,
  • 00:11:53.307 --> 00:11:53.841
  • >> meanwhile in jerusalem, prime minister netanyahu's
  • 00:11:53.974 --> 00:11:56.343
  • Prime minister netanyahu's government is again under
  • 00:11:56.476 --> 00:11:56.977
  • Government is again under strain.
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  • Strain. the ultra-orthodox shas party
  • 00:11:57.444 --> 00:11:58.045
  • The ultra-orthodox shas party ordered all its ministers to
  • 00:11:58.178 --> 00:12:00.981
  • Ordered all its ministers to resign from their government
  • 00:12:01.114 --> 00:12:01.682
  • Resign from their government posts though they remain part
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  • Posts though they remain part of the ruling coalition.
  • 00:12:04.084 --> 00:12:04.585
  • Of the ruling coalition. the move weakens netanyahu's
  • 00:12:04.718 --> 00:12:05.285
  • The move weakens netanyahu's control far right allies grow
  • 00:12:05.419 --> 00:12:08.422
  • Control far right allies grow more dominant.
  • 00:12:08.555 --> 00:12:08.856
  • More dominant. and in washington, president
  • 00:12:08.989 --> 00:12:11.792
  • And in washington, president trump hosted the emir of qatar
  • 00:12:11.925 --> 00:12:12.626
  • Trump hosted the emir of qatar at mar a lago earlier in the
  • 00:12:12.759 --> 00:12:13.594
  • At mar a lago earlier in the day.
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  • Day. >> he made this cryptic comment
  • 00:12:16.563 --> 00:12:17.231
  • >> he made this cryptic comment on boy steve which steve you
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  • On boy steve which steve you very much.
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  • Very much. thank you.
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  • Thank you. good job.
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  • Good job. >> and we have some good
  • 00:12:23.770 --> 00:12:24.404
  • >> and we have some good news on gaza and good news on a
  • 00:12:24.538 --> 00:12:27.674
  • News on gaza and good news on a couple of things that we're
  • 00:12:27.808 --> 00:12:28.375
  • Couple of things that we're working on at a very high level
  • 00:12:28.508 --> 00:12:29.176
  • Working on at a very high level whether linked to hostage
  • 00:12:29.309 --> 00:12:31.845
  • Whether linked to hostage negotiations, a temporary cease
  • 00:12:31.979 --> 00:12:32.579
  • Negotiations, a temporary cease fire or something remains
  • 00:12:32.713 --> 00:12:35.115
  • Fire or something remains unclear.
  • 00:12:35.249 --> 00:12:35.449
  • Unclear. but sources say discussions are
  • 00:12:35.582 --> 00:12:36.183
  • But sources say discussions are ongoing.
  • 00:12:36.316 --> 00:12:38.719
  • Ongoing. >> from jerusalem.
  • 00:12:38.852 --> 00:12:39.253
  • >> from jerusalem. i'm chuck holton for cbn news.
  • 00:12:39.386 --> 00:12:42.522
  • I'm chuck holton for cbn news. >> let's continue to pray for
  • 00:12:42.656 --> 00:12:43.390
  • >> let's continue to pray for the peace of gaza.
  • 00:12:43.523 --> 00:12:46.560
  • The peace of gaza. let's pray for the peace of
  • 00:12:46.693 --> 00:12:47.261
  • Let's pray for the peace of jerusalem.
  • 00:12:47.394 --> 00:12:47.628
  • Jerusalem. it looks like the map of the
  • 00:12:47.761 --> 00:12:48.395
  • It looks like the map of the middle east is being redrawn.
  • 00:12:48.528 --> 00:12:50.998
  • Middle east is being redrawn. what's going to happen with
  • 00:12:51.131 --> 00:12:51.698
  • What's going to happen with syria is of anybody's guess.
  • 00:12:51.832 --> 00:12:54.434
  • Syria is of anybody's guess. is that going to be balkanized
  • 00:12:54.568 --> 00:12:55.302
  • Is that going to be balkanized and regions drawn up areas of
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  • And regions drawn up areas of control?
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  • Control? but let's continue to pray for
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  • But let's continue to pray for those hostages to finally be
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  • Those hostages to finally be released.
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  • Released. for hamas to unconditionally
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  • Gaza. there's no future for gaza as
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  • Long as hamas is in control there.
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  • There. >> well, up next the school
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  • >> well, up next the school district that's putting
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  • District that's putting transgender rights over
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  • Transgender rights over religious and punishing the
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  • Religious and punishing the parents who dared to speak out.
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  • Parents who dared to speak out. why some christians are saying
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  • Why some christians are saying the law has been weaponized
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  • The law has been weaponized them.
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  • Them. and what's being done to stop
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  • Transgender school policy is once again drawing national
  • 00:15:04.682 --> 00:15:05.216
  • Once again drawing national attention to northern virginia.
  • 00:15:05.349 --> 00:15:08.385
  • Attention to northern virginia. the case involves a locker room
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  • The case involves a locker room incident caught on cell phone
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  • Incident caught on cell phone video.
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  • Video. it also includes allegations of
  • 00:15:12.556 --> 00:15:15.593
  • It also includes allegations of religious discrimination.
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  • Religious discrimination. senior washington correspondent
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  • Senior washington correspondent emerging reports the loudoun
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  • Emerging reports the loudoun county school system has
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  • County school system has certainly had its share of
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  • Certainly had its share of controversy from mandating
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  • Controversy from mandating gender identity policies to a
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  • Gender identity policies to a high profile bathroom assault
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  • High profile bathroom assault that made national headlines.
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  • That made national headlines. now repercussions over a locker
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  • Now repercussions over a locker room conversation and action by
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  • Room conversation and action by the board at the attention of
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  • The board at the attention of the state attorney general and
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  • The state attorney general and the feds that all this cell
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  • The feds that all this cell phone video captures tense
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  • Phone video captures tense moment inside a stonebridge
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  • Moment inside a stonebridge high school locker room.
  • 00:15:48.359 --> 00:15:48.859
  • High school locker room. also about a third of all
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  • Also about a third of all female roughly three boys
  • 00:15:53.130 --> 00:15:55.232
  • Female roughly three boys appear surprised when a
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  • Appear surprised when a biological female student who
  • 00:15:55.966 --> 00:15:59.136
  • Biological female student who identifies as a male records
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  • Identifies as a male records their private conversation and
  • 00:15:59.970 --> 00:16:03.340
  • Their private conversation and on a cell phone.
  • 00:16:03.474 --> 00:16:03.874
  • On a cell phone. >> the locker room video didn't
  • 00:16:04.008 --> 00:16:04.808
  • >> the locker room video didn't express is just what any ten
  • 00:16:04.942 --> 00:16:08.779
  • Express is just what any ten grade boys would say.
  • 00:16:08.913 --> 00:16:09.380
  • Grade boys would say. but we don't even know who says
  • 00:16:09.513 --> 00:16:11.549
  • But we don't even know who says in the video.
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  • In the video. >> at the center of the debate
  • 00:16:12.149 --> 00:16:14.451
  • >> at the center of the debate policy 8040 adopted by the
  • 00:16:14.585 --> 00:16:16.787
  • Policy 8040 adopted by the school board in 2021.
  • 00:16:16.921 --> 00:16:17.421
  • School board in 2021. it allows students to use
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  • It allows students to use restrooms and locker rooms that
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  • Restrooms and locker rooms that align with their gender
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  • Align with their gender identity.
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  • Identity. school also strictly bans
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  • School also strictly bans recordings in these spaces.
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  • Recordings in these spaces. i think there's boys across the
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  • I think there's boys across the country that feel like this and
  • 00:16:30.701 --> 00:16:33.637
  • Country that feel like this and are terrified to speak up
  • 00:16:33.771 --> 00:16:34.305
  • Are terrified to speak up because look what happened.
  • 00:16:34.438 --> 00:16:35.005
  • Because look what happened. >> while the transgender
  • 00:16:35.139 --> 00:16:37.174
  • >> while the transgender student received in-school
  • 00:16:37.308 --> 00:16:37.841
  • Student received in-school suspension for the recording.
  • 00:16:37.975 --> 00:16:41.045
  • Suspension for the recording. the district also launched a
  • 00:16:41.178 --> 00:16:41.779
  • The district also launched a title nine investigation into
  • 00:16:41.912 --> 00:16:44.882
  • Title nine investigation into three boys.
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  • Three boys. two christians and a muslim who
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  • Two christians and a muslim who say their objections rooted in
  • 00:16:46.183 --> 00:16:49.286
  • Say their objections rooted in religious beliefs.
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  • Religious beliefs. >> we believe that god made me
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  • >> we believe that god made me a and female and there is no in
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  • A and female and there is no in between.
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  • Between. >> title nine prohibits sex
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  • >> title nine prohibits sex based discrimination in
  • 00:16:55.859 --> 00:16:56.360
  • Based discrimination in federally funded.
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  • Federally funded. violation can carry serious
  • 00:16:59.096 --> 00:16:59.697
  • Violation can carry serious consequences students.
  • 00:16:59.830 --> 00:17:03.167
  • Consequences students. >> it could really stigmatize
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  • >> it could really stigmatize them in their future careers
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  • Them in their future careers and their college aspirations.
  • 00:17:07.071 --> 00:17:07.671
  • And their college aspirations. >> excuse me.
  • 00:17:07.805 --> 00:17:10.074
  • >> excuse me. >> the district's actions are
  • 00:17:10.207 --> 00:17:10.874
  • >> the district's actions are sparking public backlash from
  • 00:17:11.008 --> 00:17:14.178
  • Sparking public backlash from sides.
  • 00:17:14.311 --> 00:17:14.578
  • Sides. >> excuse me speakers should
  • 00:17:14.712 --> 00:17:15.312
  • >> excuse me speakers should refrain from targeting an crowd
  • 00:17:15.446 --> 00:17:18.182
  • Refrain from targeting an crowd packed a recent school board
  • 00:17:18.315 --> 00:17:18.882
  • Packed a recent school board meeting to speak out.
  • 00:17:19.016 --> 00:17:19.483
  • Meeting to speak out. >> it is that three boys are
  • 00:17:19.617 --> 00:17:21.852
  • >> it is that three boys are under investigation right now
  • 00:17:21.986 --> 00:17:22.553
  • Under investigation right now for simply expressing unease
  • 00:17:22.686 --> 00:17:25.155
  • For simply expressing unease about undressing in front of a
  • 00:17:25.289 --> 00:17:25.990
  • About undressing in front of a girl.
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  • Girl. trans people are not dangerous
  • 00:17:29.159 --> 00:17:29.760
  • Trans people are not dangerous assuming they are is.
  • 00:17:29.893 --> 00:17:33.230
  • Assuming they are is. >> this isn't the district's
  • 00:17:33.364 --> 00:17:33.964
  • >> this isn't the district's first high profile controversy
  • 00:17:34.098 --> 00:17:34.698
  • First high profile controversy tied to gender policy.
  • 00:17:34.832 --> 00:17:37.001
  • Tied to gender policy. >> new details tonight in two
  • 00:17:37.134 --> 00:17:37.835
  • >> new details tonight in two alleged sexual assaults inside
  • 00:17:37.968 --> 00:17:41.205
  • Alleged sexual assaults inside two different loudoun county
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  • Two different loudoun county schools.
  • 00:17:42.039 --> 00:17:42.239
  • Schools. >> lcp has also faced intense
  • 00:17:42.373 --> 00:17:44.808
  • >> lcp has also faced intense title nine scrutiny in 2021 the
  • 00:17:44.942 --> 00:17:47.845
  • Title nine scrutiny in 2021 the same year as the adoption of
  • 00:17:47.978 --> 00:17:50.414
  • Same year as the adoption of policy 8040.
  • 00:17:50.547 --> 00:17:50.814
  • Policy 8040. in that case a male student
  • 00:17:50.948 --> 00:17:51.515
  • In that case a male student wearing a skirt assaulted a
  • 00:17:51.649 --> 00:17:54.652
  • Wearing a skirt assaulted a girl in a school restroom.
  • 00:17:54.785 --> 00:17:55.319
  • Girl in a school restroom. her parents filed $30 million
  • 00:17:55.452 --> 00:17:58.289
  • Her parents filed $30 million lawsuit against the division
  • 00:17:58.422 --> 00:17:58.989
  • Lawsuit against the division after being transferred to
  • 00:17:59.123 --> 00:18:02.559
  • After being transferred to another allowed in school he
  • 00:18:02.693 --> 00:18:03.294
  • Another allowed in school he attacked another girl.
  • 00:18:03.427 --> 00:18:03.861
  • Attacked another girl. >> this is the exact same
  • 00:18:03.994 --> 00:18:06.697
  • >> this is the exact same school division that covered up
  • 00:18:06.830 --> 00:18:07.464
  • School division that covered up to sexual assaults of young
  • 00:18:07.598 --> 00:18:10.634
  • To sexual assaults of young women in this case.
  • 00:18:10.768 --> 00:18:11.201
  • Women in this case. >> governor glenn youngkin
  • 00:18:11.335 --> 00:18:11.869
  • >> governor glenn youngkin directed attorney general jason
  • 00:18:12.002 --> 00:18:14.238
  • Directed attorney general jason myers to investigate the
  • 00:18:14.371 --> 00:18:14.872
  • Myers to investigate the treatment of the boys and
  • 00:18:15.005 --> 00:18:18.342
  • Treatment of the boys and whether loudoun county schools
  • 00:18:18.475 --> 00:18:19.076
  • Whether loudoun county schools violated civil rights.
  • 00:18:19.209 --> 00:18:21.712
  • Violated civil rights. >> the idea that they would
  • 00:18:21.845 --> 00:18:22.546
  • >> the idea that they would weaponize this against three
  • 00:18:22.680 --> 00:18:24.715
  • Weaponize this against three students for just stating basic
  • 00:18:24.848 --> 00:18:25.449
  • Students for just stating basic biological fact they just said
  • 00:18:25.582 --> 00:18:26.216
  • Biological fact they just said they were uncomfortable in a
  • 00:18:26.350 --> 00:18:29.353
  • They were uncomfortable in a locker room it really shows
  • 00:18:29.486 --> 00:18:30.054
  • Locker room it really shows this potential slippery.
  • 00:18:30.187 --> 00:18:32.556
  • This potential slippery. >> the report found lcp has
  • 00:18:32.690 --> 00:18:33.390
  • >> the report found lcp has launched a retaliatory nine
  • 00:18:33.524 --> 00:18:36.060
  • Launched a retaliatory nine investigation and appears to be
  • 00:18:36.193 --> 00:18:36.827
  • Investigation and appears to be punishing those who hold and
  • 00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:40.464
  • Punishing those who hold and express faith based views.
  • 00:18:40.597 --> 00:18:41.131
  • Express faith based views. >> they were essentially told
  • 00:18:41.265 --> 00:18:43.867
  • >> they were essentially told be quiet, shut up, don't speak,
  • 00:18:44.001 --> 00:18:44.635
  • Be quiet, shut up, don't speak, just comply.
  • 00:18:44.768 --> 00:18:45.035
  • Just comply. >> you've also referred this
  • 00:18:45.169 --> 00:18:48.472
  • >> you've also referred this case to the.
  • 00:18:48.605 --> 00:18:51.642
  • Case to the. >> they have taken this over
  • 00:18:51.775 --> 00:18:52.409
  • >> they have taken this over and now they have their own
  • 00:18:52.543 --> 00:18:53.277
  • And now they have their own investigation.
  • 00:18:53.410 --> 00:18:54.878
  • Investigation. >> the findings by the u.s.
  • 00:18:55.012 --> 00:18:55.746
  • >> the findings by the u.s. department of education and
  • 00:18:55.879 --> 00:18:56.413
  • Department of education and justice could reshape how
  • 00:18:56.547 --> 00:18:59.249
  • Justice could reshape how schools implement gender
  • 00:18:59.383 --> 00:18:59.883
  • Schools implement gender related policy in virginia and
  • 00:19:00.017 --> 00:19:03.754
  • Related policy in virginia and beyond.
  • 00:19:03.887 --> 00:19:04.088
  • Beyond. >> if these boys can be found
  • 00:19:04.221 --> 00:19:07.024
  • >> if these boys can be found guilty of a title nine
  • 00:19:07.157 --> 00:19:07.624
  • Guilty of a title nine violation and sexual harassment
  • 00:19:07.758 --> 00:19:08.392
  • Violation and sexual harassment simply for questioning why
  • 00:19:08.525 --> 00:19:10.928
  • Simply for questioning why there's a girl in their locker
  • 00:19:11.061 --> 00:19:11.695
  • There's a girl in their locker room it means that can happen
  • 00:19:11.829 --> 00:19:14.298
  • Room it means that can happen to any student who does the
  • 00:19:14.431 --> 00:19:15.032
  • To any student who does the same anywhere america.
  • 00:19:15.165 --> 00:19:18.068
  • Same anywhere america. >> and lcp spokesman declined
  • 00:19:18.202 --> 00:19:18.836
  • >> and lcp spokesman declined our request for an.
  • 00:19:18.969 --> 00:19:21.472
  • Our request for an. although the school system's
  • 00:19:21.605 --> 00:19:22.172
  • Although the school system's website states in part that it
  • 00:19:22.306 --> 00:19:25.576
  • Website states in part that it would not investigate or
  • 00:19:25.709 --> 00:19:26.210
  • Would not investigate or discipline students based on
  • 00:19:26.343 --> 00:19:29.380
  • Discipline students based on their personal opinions,
  • 00:19:29.513 --> 00:19:30.013
  • Their personal opinions, thoughts or beliefs provided
  • 00:19:30.147 --> 00:19:30.714
  • Thoughts or beliefs provided those expressions do not
  • 00:19:30.848 --> 00:19:33.584
  • Those expressions do not violate policies prohibiting
  • 00:19:33.717 --> 00:19:34.284
  • Violate policies prohibiting hate speech discriminatory
  • 00:19:34.418 --> 00:19:36.954
  • Hate speech discriminatory language threats or other forms
  • 00:19:37.087 --> 00:19:37.688
  • Language threats or other forms of harmful or disruptive
  • 00:19:37.821 --> 00:19:38.322
  • Of harmful or disruptive conduct.
  • 00:19:38.455 --> 00:19:41.592
  • Conduct. although the division has
  • 00:19:41.725 --> 00:19:42.226
  • Although the division has dropped the sexual harassment
  • 00:19:42.359 --> 00:19:42.960
  • Dropped the sexual harassment charge against, the muslim
  • 00:19:43.093 --> 00:19:45.229
  • Charge against, the muslim student stating his actions
  • 00:19:45.362 --> 00:19:45.896
  • Student stating his actions didn't meet the legal standard
  • 00:19:46.029 --> 00:19:48.298
  • Didn't meet the legal standard it filed new sex based
  • 00:19:48.432 --> 00:19:49.066
  • It filed new sex based discrimination charges against
  • 00:19:49.199 --> 00:19:52.302
  • Discrimination charges against the two christian students.
  • 00:19:52.436 --> 00:19:52.970
  • The two christian students. >> all three boys received a
  • 00:19:53.103 --> 00:19:53.804
  • >> all three boys received a letter with the same alleged
  • 00:19:53.937 --> 00:19:56.874
  • Letter with the same alleged facts.
  • 00:19:57.007 --> 00:19:57.174
  • Facts. >> so it just really doesn't
  • 00:19:57.307 --> 00:19:57.908
  • >> so it just really doesn't add up if.
  • 00:19:58.041 --> 00:20:00.577
  • Add up if. they don't have any solid
  • 00:20:00.711 --> 00:20:01.245
  • They don't have any solid evidence that did this this
  • 00:20:01.378 --> 00:20:01.945
  • Evidence that did this this boys they they did anything
  • 00:20:02.079 --> 00:20:03.881
  • Boys they they did anything wrong.
  • 00:20:04.014 --> 00:20:04.181
  • Wrong. they should just drop the case
  • 00:20:04.314 --> 00:20:07.017
  • They should just drop the case and move on.
  • 00:20:07.151 --> 00:20:07.451
  • And move on. >> the case in loudon isn't an
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  • >> the case in loudon isn't an isolated.
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  • Isolated. similar gender identity and
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  • Similar gender identity and religious battles are unfolding
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  • Religious battles are unfolding nationwide from.
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  • Nationwide from. maryland parents suing over
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  • Maryland parents suing over lgbtq curricula to pronoun
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  • Lgbtq curricula to pronoun disputes in texas and bathroom
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  • Disputes in texas and bathroom policy clashes in california.
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  • Policy clashes in california. hello ladies and gentlemen and
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  • Hello ladies and gentlemen and only ladies and gentlemen it is
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  • Only ladies and gentlemen it is and shall always be loud and
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  • And shall always be loud and could become a pivotal test
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  • Could become a pivotal test case in defining the limits of
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  • Case in defining the limits of how public schools protect
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  • How public schools protect rights without infringing on
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  • Rights without infringing on religious freedom.
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  • Religious freedom. >> what we're trying to do is
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  • >> what we're trying to do is just bring that common sense
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  • Just bring that common sense into the educational system
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  • Into the educational system depending on the outcome of the
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  • Depending on the outcome of the federal investigation into
  • 00:20:46.256 --> 00:20:46.790
  • Federal investigation into potential title nine violation.
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  • Potential title nine violation. further actions could include
  • 00:20:49.593 --> 00:20:50.160
  • Further actions could include disciplinary action against
  • 00:20:50.294 --> 00:20:52.763
  • Disciplinary action against loudoun county school
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  • Loudoun county school officials, federal sanctions or
  • 00:20:53.497 --> 00:20:56.433
  • Officials, federal sanctions or lawsuits challenging the
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  • Lawsuits challenging the district's policies or handling
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  • District's policies or handling of the case in loudoun county,
  • 00:20:57.935 --> 00:21:01.438
  • Of the case in loudoun county, virginia.
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  • Virginia. >> i'm terrible at our cbs
  • 00:21:01.939 --> 00:21:04.575
  • >> i'm terrible at our cbs news.
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  • News. >> none of this case makes any
  • 00:21:05.008 --> 00:21:05.642
  • >> none of this case makes any sense to me.
  • 00:21:05.776 --> 00:21:06.076
  • Sense to me. number one, you shouldn't have
  • 00:21:06.210 --> 00:21:08.779
  • Number one, you shouldn't have a recording device in a locker
  • 00:21:08.912 --> 00:21:09.546
  • A recording device in a locker room natch that shouldn't be so
  • 00:21:09.680 --> 00:21:11.882
  • Room natch that shouldn't be so .
  • 00:21:12.015 --> 00:21:12.115
  • . was there some kind of
  • 00:21:12.249 --> 00:21:12.749
  • Was there some kind of intentional provocation and was
  • 00:21:12.883 --> 00:21:13.484
  • Intentional provocation and was that designed to trigger this
  • 00:21:13.617 --> 00:21:16.520
  • That designed to trigger this investigation?
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  • Investigation? then you just have boys saying
  • 00:21:20.324 --> 00:21:21.058
  • Then you just have boys saying oh yeah, a woman a should not
  • 00:21:21.191 --> 00:21:24.228
  • Oh yeah, a woman a should not be in our locker room.
  • 00:21:24.361 --> 00:21:24.828
  • Be in our locker room. that's kind of a normal
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  • That's kind of a normal reaction.
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  • Reaction. so yes, common sense then you
  • 00:21:28.031 --> 00:21:32.135
  • So yes, common sense then you dismiss the charges against the
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  • Dismiss the charges against the muslim student and you keep the
  • 00:21:36.240 --> 00:21:36.840
  • Muslim student and you keep the charges against the christian
  • 00:21:36.974 --> 00:21:37.541
  • Charges against the christian students.
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  • Students. well, that seems like a
  • 00:21:40.143 --> 00:21:40.677
  • Well, that seems like a discrimination in and of
  • 00:21:40.811 --> 00:21:41.311
  • Discrimination in and of itself.
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  • Itself. the power to investigate is the
  • 00:21:43.680 --> 00:21:44.515
  • The power to investigate is the power to destroy the american
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  • Power to destroy the american revolution.
  • 00:21:48.452 --> 00:21:48.719
  • Revolution. it was the power to tax in our
  • 00:21:48.852 --> 00:21:51.889
  • It was the power to tax in our current surveillance state this
  • 00:21:52.022 --> 00:21:52.689
  • Current surveillance state this you this woke cancel culture
  • 00:21:52.823 --> 00:21:56.059
  • You this woke cancel culture we're in.
  • 00:21:56.193 --> 00:21:59.696
  • We're in. it's the power to investigate
  • 00:21:59.830 --> 00:22:00.464
  • It's the power to investigate and what's going to happen to
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  • And what's going to happen to these two young men as they go
  • 00:22:03.367 --> 00:22:04.067
  • These two young men as they go through life are they forever
  • 00:22:04.201 --> 00:22:07.471
  • Through life are they forever going to be tarnished with
  • 00:22:07.604 --> 00:22:08.171
  • Going to be tarnished with this?
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  • This? it makes no sense.
  • 00:22:10.340 --> 00:22:10.974
  • It makes no sense. i do not understand a school
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  • I do not understand a school system that wants to launch an
  • 00:22:11.875 --> 00:22:14.177
  • System that wants to launch an investigation based on what was
  • 00:22:14.311 --> 00:22:14.945
  • Investigation based on what was on the clip.
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  • On the clip. it doesn't any sense to me.
  • 00:22:15.479 --> 00:22:18.949
  • It doesn't any sense to me. but here's something that does
  • 00:22:19.082 --> 00:22:19.716
  • But here's something that does make sense.
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  • Make sense. all of this really goes back to
  • 00:22:22.252 --> 00:22:22.953
  • All of this really goes back to the supreme court and there was
  • 00:22:23.086 --> 00:22:23.687
  • The supreme court and there was a very interesting they had and
  • 00:22:23.820 --> 00:22:26.523
  • A very interesting they had and it was it didn't apply to
  • 00:22:26.657 --> 00:22:27.357
  • It was it didn't apply to schools.
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  • Schools. it applied to employment and
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  • It applied to employment and discrimination in employment.
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  • Discrimination in employment. there was a funeral home the
  • 00:22:33.664 --> 00:22:34.565
  • There was a funeral home the funeral home a male employee
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  • Funeral home a male employee who was transitioning.
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  • Who was transitioning. he would show up to funerals in
  • 00:22:42.105 --> 00:22:43.040
  • He would show up to funerals in a dress but having a full beard
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  • A dress but having a full beard and that caused families of
  • 00:22:46.343 --> 00:22:50.180
  • And that caused families of doing funerals and mourning
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  • Doing funerals and mourning their long loved ones
  • 00:22:53.984 --> 00:22:54.451
  • Their long loved ones discomfort didn't like that and
  • 00:22:54.585 --> 00:22:57.754
  • Discomfort didn't like that and so the funeral home was losing
  • 00:22:57.888 --> 00:22:58.622
  • So the funeral home was losing business the funeral home.
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  • Business the funeral home. the supreme court said the
  • 00:23:01.425 --> 00:23:02.125
  • The supreme court said the funeral home could not fire
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  • Funeral home could not fire that employee that that would
  • 00:23:05.629 --> 00:23:06.229
  • That employee that that would be now sex discrimination under
  • 00:23:06.363 --> 00:23:09.232
  • Be now sex discrimination under the civil rights laws.
  • 00:23:09.366 --> 00:23:09.833
  • The civil rights laws. so you look at that definition
  • 00:23:12.402 --> 00:23:13.203
  • So you look at that definition and is it any wonder that we're
  • 00:23:13.337 --> 00:23:17.107
  • And is it any wonder that we're seeing this kind of confusion
  • 00:23:17.240 --> 00:23:17.841
  • Seeing this kind of confusion in our school system?
  • 00:23:17.975 --> 00:23:20.410
  • In our school system? the supreme court needs to say
  • 00:23:20.544 --> 00:23:21.278
  • The supreme court needs to say enough of this.
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  • Enough of this. our department of justice is
  • 00:23:24.648 --> 00:23:25.282
  • Our department of justice is probably going to weigh in
  • 00:23:25.415 --> 00:23:25.949
  • Probably going to weigh in enough of this.
  • 00:23:26.083 --> 00:23:28.652
  • Enough of this. i'm very grateful that our
  • 00:23:28.785 --> 00:23:29.353
  • I'm very grateful that our attorney general here in
  • 00:23:29.486 --> 00:23:29.987
  • Attorney general here in virginia is saying have common
  • 00:23:30.120 --> 00:23:32.589
  • Virginia is saying have common sense here but it's just we've
  • 00:23:32.723 --> 00:23:36.460
  • Sense here but it's just we've gone crazy as a culture and it
  • 00:23:36.593 --> 00:23:37.527
  • Gone crazy as a culture and it really make any sense there.
  • 00:23:37.661 --> 00:23:40.497
  • Really make any sense there. >> well, up next, he's a naval
  • 00:23:40.631 --> 00:23:43.667
  • >> well, up next, he's a naval officer and the ceo of two
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  • Officer and the ceo of two companies, charlie watkins
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  • Companies, charlie watkins tells us about one of the
  • 00:23:47.304 --> 00:23:49.406
  • Tells us about one of the hardest things he's ever had to
  • 00:23:49.539 --> 00:23:50.240
  • Hardest things he's ever had to do say i'm sorry to his own
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  • Do say i'm sorry to his own father.
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  • Father. find out why after this.
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  • >> call 885 1717. that's hundred 85 1717.
  • 00:23:59.998 --> 00:24:01.337
  • That's hundred 85 1717. call now.
  • 00:24:01.470 --> 00:24:05.207
  • Call now. >> well charley watkins had to
  • 00:24:05.341 --> 00:24:05.975
  • >> well charley watkins had to steal himself for a difficult
  • 00:24:06.108 --> 00:24:09.178
  • Steal himself for a difficult conversation.
  • 00:24:09.311 --> 00:24:09.612
  • Conversation. >> he was going to talk to a
  • 00:24:09.745 --> 00:24:10.412
  • >> he was going to talk to a true warrior a submarine
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  • True warrior a submarine commander during the cold war
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  • Commander during the cold war who dealt some of the biggest
  • 00:24:13.783 --> 00:24:16.986
  • Who dealt some of the biggest challenges faced our nation.
  • 00:24:17.119 --> 00:24:17.653
  • Challenges faced our nation. to make the conversation even
  • 00:24:17.787 --> 00:24:20.689
  • To make the conversation even harder, this imposing man also
  • 00:24:20.823 --> 00:24:21.457
  • Harder, this imposing man also happened be charlie's father, a
  • 00:24:21.590 --> 00:24:27.797
  • Happened be charlie's father, a naval academy grad.
  • 00:24:27.930 --> 00:24:28.330
  • Naval academy grad. charlie watkins served as a
  • 00:24:28.464 --> 00:24:31.200
  • Charlie watkins served as a nuclear officer on a navy
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  • Nuclear officer on a navy cruiser.
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  • Cruiser. years later he transitioned to
  • 00:24:32.334 --> 00:24:35.538
  • Years later he transitioned to the business world and now is
  • 00:24:35.671 --> 00:24:36.372
  • The business world and now is the ceo of two companies.
  • 00:24:36.505 --> 00:24:39.441
  • The ceo of two companies. charlie's true passion in life
  • 00:24:39.575 --> 00:24:40.209
  • Charlie's true passion in life is to equip men to thrive as
  • 00:24:40.342 --> 00:24:42.745
  • Is to equip men to thrive as godly husbands, fathers and
  • 00:24:42.878 --> 00:24:43.412
  • Godly husbands, fathers and leaders.
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  • Leaders. with his book throne no rocks,
  • 00:24:46.882 --> 00:24:47.550
  • With his book throne no rocks, charlie offers from years of
  • 00:24:47.683 --> 00:24:50.386
  • Charlie offers from years of experience on how to achieve
  • 00:24:50.519 --> 00:24:51.086
  • Experience on how to achieve those very goals.
  • 00:24:51.220 --> 00:24:54.557
  • Those very goals. >> well, charlie watkins is
  • 00:24:54.690 --> 00:24:55.224
  • >> well, charlie watkins is here with us now and we've
  • 00:24:55.357 --> 00:24:58.694
  • Here with us now and we've teased the the meeting what
  • 00:24:58.828 --> 00:24:59.361
  • Teased the the meeting what happened with your father.
  • 00:24:59.495 --> 00:25:02.731
  • Happened with your father. >> well, thank you for having
  • 00:25:02.865 --> 00:25:03.499
  • >> well, thank you for having me.
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  • Me. it was a great day but a
  • 00:25:03.899 --> 00:25:06.769
  • It was a great day but a terrifying day.
  • 00:25:06.902 --> 00:25:07.236
  • Terrifying day. and i rehearsed my speech all
  • 00:25:07.369 --> 00:25:10.472
  • And i rehearsed my speech all the way up route 95 and 64 and
  • 00:25:10.606 --> 00:25:11.507
  • The way up route 95 and 64 and i greeted father and i went in
  • 00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:14.577
  • I greeted father and i went in and i said dad, i'm here to ask
  • 00:25:14.710 --> 00:25:18.080
  • And i said dad, i'm here to ask you to forgive me for my
  • 00:25:18.214 --> 00:25:21.450
  • You to forgive me for my attitude i've had towards you
  • 00:25:21.584 --> 00:25:22.184
  • Attitude i've had towards you and i'm sorry.
  • 00:25:22.318 --> 00:25:25.454
  • And i'm sorry. and he got a little emotional
  • 00:25:25.588 --> 00:25:28.924
  • And he got a little emotional and he said as he composed he
  • 00:25:29.058 --> 00:25:33.596
  • And he said as he composed he said yes, of course.
  • 00:25:33.729 --> 00:25:34.163
  • Said yes, of course. and then looked at me and said
  • 00:25:34.296 --> 00:25:37.533
  • And then looked at me and said something i'll never forget the
  • 00:25:37.666 --> 00:25:38.300
  • Something i'll never forget the rest of my life.
  • 00:25:38.434 --> 00:25:38.801
  • Rest of my life. he said charlie, this is a good
  • 00:25:38.934 --> 00:25:41.503
  • He said charlie, this is a good thing you've done today.
  • 00:25:41.637 --> 00:25:44.640
  • Thing you've done today. and i got up, hug my parents
  • 00:25:44.773 --> 00:25:45.541
  • And i got up, hug my parents and drove back to virginia
  • 00:25:45.674 --> 00:25:48.377
  • And drove back to virginia beach where i was living at the
  • 00:25:48.510 --> 00:25:49.245
  • Beach where i was living at the time with my two young children
  • 00:25:49.378 --> 00:25:50.012
  • Time with my two young children and my beautiful wife.
  • 00:25:50.145 --> 00:25:52.648
  • And my beautiful wife. our lives changed.
  • 00:25:52.781 --> 00:25:53.182
  • Our lives changed. it was a breakthrough.
  • 00:25:53.315 --> 00:25:56.151
  • It was a breakthrough. it was it was holding me back.
  • 00:25:56.285 --> 00:25:57.019
  • It was it was holding me back. it really was a new era that
  • 00:25:57.152 --> 00:26:00.089
  • It really was a new era that forgiveness had ushered in with
  • 00:26:00.222 --> 00:26:00.856
  • Forgiveness had ushered in with my new in christ and i had only
  • 00:26:00.990 --> 00:26:04.927
  • My new in christ and i had only been a christian for a couple
  • 00:26:05.060 --> 00:26:05.628
  • Been a christian for a couple of years.
  • 00:26:05.761 --> 00:26:05.995
  • Of years. >> well, i was by a marine so i
  • 00:26:06.128 --> 00:26:08.330
  • >> well, i was by a marine so i got a little sense of what were
  • 00:26:08.464 --> 00:26:11.934
  • Got a little sense of what were what but what happened to you
  • 00:26:12.067 --> 00:26:12.668
  • What but what happened to you as you're growing up that that
  • 00:26:12.801 --> 00:26:15.838
  • As you're growing up that that put that in you?
  • 00:26:15.971 --> 00:26:16.372
  • Put that in you? >> well, we moved a lot and
  • 00:26:16.505 --> 00:26:19.174
  • >> well, we moved a lot and mostly my dad was just gone.
  • 00:26:19.308 --> 00:26:19.875
  • Mostly my dad was just gone. >> and submarines are hard.
  • 00:26:20.009 --> 00:26:23.479
  • >> and submarines are hard. >> submarines are hard.
  • 00:26:23.612 --> 00:26:24.079
  • >> submarines are hard. very long deployment.
  • 00:26:24.213 --> 00:26:24.647
  • Very long deployment. long deployment.
  • 00:26:24.780 --> 00:26:27.683
  • Long deployment. and it was the height of the
  • 00:26:27.816 --> 00:26:28.617
  • And it was the height of the communication.
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  • Communication. yeah.
  • 00:26:29.184 --> 00:26:29.351
  • Yeah. no communication.
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  • No communication. letter every six months.
  • 00:26:29.985 --> 00:26:30.486
  • Letter every six months. one letter we get a letter.
  • 00:26:30.619 --> 00:26:31.153
  • One letter we get a letter. he it be in japan and then he'd
  • 00:26:31.287 --> 00:26:34.423
  • He it be in japan and then he'd put letters off because there
  • 00:26:34.556 --> 00:26:35.157
  • Put letters off because there was no communication at those
  • 00:26:35.291 --> 00:26:37.993
  • Was no communication at those times.
  • 00:26:38.127 --> 00:26:38.294
  • Times. >> and i just grew lost.
  • 00:26:38.427 --> 00:26:41.196
  • >> and i just grew lost. i was angry.
  • 00:26:41.330 --> 00:26:41.764
  • I was angry. i didn't know how to raise
  • 00:26:41.897 --> 00:26:45.000
  • I didn't know how to raise myself.
  • 00:26:45.134 --> 00:26:45.334
  • Myself. i was one of six kids.
  • 00:26:45.467 --> 00:26:45.968
  • I was one of six kids. my mother was busy as could be.
  • 00:26:46.101 --> 00:26:46.835
  • My mother was busy as could be. and i was waiting for life to
  • 00:26:46.969 --> 00:26:50.239
  • And i was waiting for life to sort of get started and then we
  • 00:26:50.372 --> 00:26:51.006
  • Sort of get started and then we move again and you break in.
  • 00:26:51.140 --> 00:26:53.442
  • Move again and you break in. you find your pathway maybe
  • 00:26:53.575 --> 00:26:54.209
  • You find your pathway maybe through sports or something.
  • 00:26:54.343 --> 00:26:57.246
  • Through sports or something. but i just didn't know how to
  • 00:26:57.379 --> 00:27:00.416
  • But i just didn't know how to grow up.
  • 00:27:00.549 --> 00:27:00.749
  • Grow up. i didn't know how to make my
  • 00:27:00.883 --> 00:27:01.717
  • I didn't know how to make my life work and i, i just turned
  • 00:27:01.850 --> 00:27:04.720
  • Life work and i, i just turned my anger towards him and i got
  • 00:27:04.853 --> 00:27:07.756
  • My anger towards him and i got at him and i didn't express it
  • 00:27:07.890 --> 00:27:08.724
  • At him and i didn't express it because i was too intimidated
  • 00:27:08.857 --> 00:27:09.425
  • Because i was too intimidated by him but i kept it all in
  • 00:27:09.558 --> 00:27:12.227
  • By him but i kept it all in here and i as much as i wanted
  • 00:27:12.361 --> 00:27:16.365
  • Here and i as much as i wanted the firm affirmation and
  • 00:27:16.498 --> 00:27:16.999
  • The firm affirmation and approval of my dad, i really
  • 00:27:17.132 --> 00:27:19.835
  • Approval of my dad, i really was still angry with him.
  • 00:27:19.969 --> 00:27:20.502
  • Was still angry with him. >> but you were still
  • 00:27:20.636 --> 00:27:21.203
  • >> but you were still succeeding.
  • 00:27:21.337 --> 00:27:23.272
  • Succeeding. i mean naval academy is really
  • 00:27:23.405 --> 00:27:24.039
  • I mean naval academy is really hard to get into and you still
  • 00:27:24.173 --> 00:27:27.509
  • Hard to get into and you still made it.
  • 00:27:27.643 --> 00:27:27.843
  • Made it. >> so what was what was driving
  • 00:27:27.977 --> 00:27:30.846
  • >> so what was what was driving that?
  • 00:27:30.980 --> 00:27:31.146
  • That? >> well, these are good
  • 00:27:31.280 --> 00:27:31.780
  • >> well, these are good questions.
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  • Questions. i was i think it was driving
  • 00:27:34.950 --> 00:27:35.818
  • I was i think it was driving that was a kick in my dad's
  • 00:27:35.951 --> 00:27:38.988
  • That was a kick in my dad's approval.
  • 00:27:39.121 --> 00:27:39.355
  • Approval. >> and i was i went to
  • 00:27:39.488 --> 00:27:39.955
  • >> and i was i went to university of texas for a year
  • 00:27:40.089 --> 00:27:42.825
  • University of texas for a year and my father said stay down
  • 00:27:42.958 --> 00:27:43.592
  • And my father said stay down there.
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  • There. do peaceful.
  • 00:27:44.026 --> 00:27:46.829
  • Do peaceful. there's a lot of naval academy
  • 00:27:46.962 --> 00:27:47.629
  • There's a lot of naval academy people in my family.
  • 00:27:47.763 --> 00:27:48.197
  • People in my family. he said go into engineering, go
  • 00:27:48.330 --> 00:27:50.165
  • He said go into engineering, go into business.
  • 00:27:50.299 --> 00:27:50.599
  • Into business. go into law.
  • 00:27:50.733 --> 00:27:51.033
  • Go into law. i was down there for about a
  • 00:27:52.801 --> 00:27:53.836
  • I was down there for about a semester and i realized i want
  • 00:27:53.969 --> 00:27:54.570
  • Semester and i realized i want to go to the naval academy and
  • 00:27:54.703 --> 00:27:57.172
  • To go to the naval academy and i called him and he said you
  • 00:27:57.306 --> 00:27:57.973
  • I called him and he said you don't go the naval academy
  • 00:27:58.107 --> 00:27:58.640
  • Don't go the naval academy charlie.
  • 00:27:58.774 --> 00:27:58.974
  • Charlie. you're not going to to like it.
  • 00:27:59.108 --> 00:28:01.010
  • You're not going to to like it. i said, oh, i'm going to love
  • 00:28:01.143 --> 00:28:01.877
  • I said, oh, i'm going to love it there.
  • 00:28:02.011 --> 00:28:02.244
  • It there. but i was really seeking his
  • 00:28:02.378 --> 00:28:04.046
  • But i was really seeking his approval and i thought maybe if
  • 00:28:04.179 --> 00:28:04.813
  • Approval and i thought maybe if i could do what he did you
  • 00:28:04.947 --> 00:28:08.183
  • I could do what he did you know, this is the way a young
  • 00:28:08.317 --> 00:28:08.951
  • Know, this is the way a young mind thinks it's immature and
  • 00:28:09.084 --> 00:28:09.685
  • Mind thinks it's immature and needy then i'll be happy.
  • 00:28:09.818 --> 00:28:12.454
  • Needy then i'll be happy. i'll be affirmed.
  • 00:28:12.588 --> 00:28:16.725
  • I'll be affirmed. i went to the academy.
  • 00:28:16.859 --> 00:28:17.426
  • I went to the academy. i did.
  • 00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:17.760
  • I did. i did fine there.
  • 00:28:17.893 --> 00:28:18.293
  • I did fine there. i mean, i was i was too
  • 00:28:18.427 --> 00:28:19.928
  • I mean, i was i was too frightened not to do well.
  • 00:28:20.062 --> 00:28:20.596
  • Frightened not to do well. it wouldn't be place i could
  • 00:28:20.729 --> 00:28:23.832
  • It wouldn't be place i could ever leave because leaving
  • 00:28:23.966 --> 00:28:24.466
  • Ever leave because leaving would be quitting and so i did.
  • 00:28:24.600 --> 00:28:27.669
  • Would be quitting and so i did. i didn't find the naval academy
  • 00:28:27.803 --> 00:28:28.504
  • I didn't find the naval academy did well went into nuclear
  • 00:28:28.637 --> 00:28:31.807
  • Did well went into nuclear power afterwards which is an
  • 00:28:31.940 --> 00:28:32.541
  • Power afterwards which is an elite group that's an elite.
  • 00:28:32.674 --> 00:28:33.275
  • Elite group that's an elite. >> yeah.
  • 00:28:33.409 --> 00:28:33.609
  • >> yeah. and you did more than well.
  • 00:28:33.742 --> 00:28:35.277
  • And you did more than well. >> yeah.
  • 00:28:35.411 --> 00:28:35.611
  • >> yeah. and so all that was and and
  • 00:28:35.744 --> 00:28:38.180
  • And so all that was and and this breakthrough that occurred
  • 00:28:38.313 --> 00:28:38.947
  • This breakthrough that occurred right after i left the navy was
  • 00:28:39.081 --> 00:28:42.584
  • Right after i left the navy was a real launching point for me
  • 00:28:42.718 --> 00:28:43.318
  • A real launching point for me to to begin to put lot of
  • 00:28:43.452 --> 00:28:47.022
  • To to begin to put lot of pieces in place.
  • 00:28:47.156 --> 00:28:47.523
  • Pieces in place. so yes it didn't bring me to
  • 00:28:47.656 --> 00:28:48.323
  • So yes it didn't bring me to non success but my motivation
  • 00:28:48.457 --> 00:28:50.359
  • Non success but my motivation was striving for approval
  • 00:28:50.492 --> 00:28:51.026
  • Was striving for approval there's no question about okay
  • 00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:54.296
  • There's no question about okay what what caused you to leave
  • 00:28:54.430 --> 00:28:55.130
  • What what caused you to leave that?
  • 00:28:55.264 --> 00:28:57.766
  • That? because you do have to leave
  • 00:28:57.900 --> 00:28:58.534
  • Because you do have to leave that.
  • 00:28:58.667 --> 00:28:58.834
  • That. yeah and.
  • 00:28:58.967 --> 00:29:01.070
  • Yeah and. what got you to that point
  • 00:29:01.203 --> 00:29:01.837
  • What got you to that point where that sort of why am i
  • 00:29:01.970 --> 00:29:05.307
  • Where that sort of why am i looking for man's approval.
  • 00:29:05.441 --> 00:29:09.078
  • Looking for man's approval. >> what what broke that in you?
  • 00:29:09.211 --> 00:29:10.045
  • >> what what broke that in you? well i started to go to church
  • 00:29:10.179 --> 00:29:13.248
  • Well i started to go to church and i had come to christ
  • 00:29:13.382 --> 00:29:13.982
  • And i had come to christ through the ship's doctor on
  • 00:29:14.116 --> 00:29:17.052
  • Through the ship's doctor on the the cruiser i was on and it
  • 00:29:17.186 --> 00:29:17.920
  • The the cruiser i was on and it was a remarkable man and i was
  • 00:29:18.053 --> 00:29:20.489
  • Was a remarkable man and i was hungry for new things from the
  • 00:29:20.622 --> 00:29:21.223
  • Hungry for new things from the lord and we went with i
  • 00:29:21.356 --> 00:29:23.992
  • Lord and we went with i stumbled into a beautiful
  • 00:29:24.126 --> 00:29:24.626
  • Stumbled into a beautiful charismatic church in this area
  • 00:29:24.760 --> 00:29:27.696
  • Charismatic church in this area and we i was raised the roman
  • 00:29:27.830 --> 00:29:28.564
  • And we i was raised the roman catholic wife was raised
  • 00:29:28.697 --> 00:29:29.198
  • Catholic wife was raised episcopalian said let's try
  • 00:29:29.331 --> 00:29:32.534
  • Episcopalian said let's try something different and we
  • 00:29:32.668 --> 00:29:33.202
  • Something different and we literally the lord just led us
  • 00:29:33.335 --> 00:29:33.969
  • Literally the lord just led us there.
  • 00:29:34.103 --> 00:29:34.269
  • There. i don't we didn't research
  • 00:29:34.403 --> 00:29:35.237
  • I don't we didn't research there was no google at the time
  • 00:29:35.370 --> 00:29:36.038
  • There was no google at the time or check getty and we stumbled
  • 00:29:36.171 --> 00:29:39.942
  • Or check getty and we stumbled in there and there were all
  • 00:29:40.075 --> 00:29:40.642
  • In there and there were all these wonderful in the sunday
  • 00:29:40.776 --> 00:29:44.012
  • These wonderful in the sunday school and you would know many
  • 00:29:44.146 --> 00:29:44.746
  • School and you would know many of the names because there was
  • 00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:47.316
  • Of the names because there was dave garrison was there and all
  • 00:29:47.449 --> 00:29:48.050
  • Dave garrison was there and all these wonderful guys were there
  • 00:29:48.183 --> 00:29:48.817
  • These wonderful guys were there and men and women i started to
  • 00:29:48.951 --> 00:29:51.286
  • And men and women i started to put these things together and
  • 00:29:51.420 --> 00:29:52.020
  • Put these things together and they started talking to you you
  • 00:29:52.154 --> 00:29:54.490
  • They started talking to you you about identity and spiritual
  • 00:29:54.623 --> 00:29:55.190
  • About identity and spiritual authority and being under
  • 00:29:55.324 --> 00:29:58.160
  • Authority and being under authority and and these things
  • 00:29:58.293 --> 00:29:58.894
  • Authority and and these things just to be soaked in by my
  • 00:29:59.027 --> 00:30:02.798
  • Just to be soaked in by my heart and i was taught truth
  • 00:30:02.931 --> 00:30:05.968
  • Heart and i was taught truth and i was i was living under a
  • 00:30:06.101 --> 00:30:10.072
  • And i was i was living under a different narrative a narrative
  • 00:30:10.205 --> 00:30:10.806
  • Different narrative a narrative about unforgiveness and anger
  • 00:30:10.939 --> 00:30:13.342
  • About unforgiveness and anger and it was somebody else's
  • 00:30:13.475 --> 00:30:16.812
  • And it was somebody else's fault was my dad's fault and i
  • 00:30:16.945 --> 00:30:17.779
  • Fault was my dad's fault and i was mad at him and and so that
  • 00:30:17.913 --> 00:30:21.116
  • Was mad at him and and so that breakthrough which occurred
  • 00:30:21.250 --> 00:30:24.953
  • Breakthrough which occurred when those two people laid
  • 00:30:25.087 --> 00:30:25.621
  • When those two people laid hands on me and never seen
  • 00:30:25.754 --> 00:30:28.490
  • Hands on me and never seen before since and that woman
  • 00:30:28.624 --> 00:30:29.158
  • Before since and that woman said you need to go to your
  • 00:30:29.291 --> 00:30:29.992
  • Said you need to go to your father and you did ask him to
  • 00:30:30.125 --> 00:30:33.061
  • Father and you did ask him to forgive you.
  • 00:30:33.195 --> 00:30:33.495
  • Forgive you. i he got my attention because.
  • 00:30:33.629 --> 00:30:36.165
  • I he got my attention because. >> i knew she didn't love that
  • 00:30:36.298 --> 00:30:37.065
  • >> i knew she didn't love that part of the story out.
  • 00:30:37.199 --> 00:30:37.666
  • Part of the story out. so you're in a church and you
  • 00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:40.269
  • So you're in a church and you go forward for prayer and they
  • 00:30:40.402 --> 00:30:41.003
  • Go forward for prayer and they lay hands on you at an altar
  • 00:30:41.136 --> 00:30:43.906
  • Lay hands on you at an altar and she says prophetically over
  • 00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:47.876
  • And she says prophetically over you you need to go forgive your
  • 00:30:48.010 --> 00:30:48.810
  • You you need to go forgive your father out of her mouth.
  • 00:30:48.944 --> 00:30:51.613
  • Father out of her mouth. >> the first words after she
  • 00:30:51.747 --> 00:30:52.548
  • >> the first words after she said what's your name?
  • 00:30:52.681 --> 00:30:55.584
  • Said what's your name? and i said my name is charlie
  • 00:30:55.717 --> 00:30:56.552
  • And i said my name is charlie the man had been speaking in
  • 00:30:56.685 --> 00:30:58.921
  • The man had been speaking in tongues.
  • 00:30:59.054 --> 00:30:59.254
  • Tongues. i didn't know what it was at
  • 00:30:59.388 --> 00:31:00.022
  • I didn't know what it was at that time i wasn't
  • 00:31:00.155 --> 00:31:02.357
  • That time i wasn't uncomfortable.
  • 00:31:02.491 --> 00:31:02.791
  • Uncomfortable. i didn't really know why i was
  • 00:31:02.925 --> 00:31:03.559
  • I didn't really know why i was uncomfortable.
  • 00:31:03.692 --> 00:31:03.992
  • Uncomfortable. i didn't understand what.
  • 00:31:04.126 --> 00:31:06.094
  • I didn't understand what. he said he got quiet.
  • 00:31:06.228 --> 00:31:06.762
  • He said he got quiet. she's over on this shoulder.
  • 00:31:06.895 --> 00:31:09.731
  • She's over on this shoulder. she looks at me and she says
  • 00:31:09.865 --> 00:31:10.566
  • She looks at me and she says what's your name?
  • 00:31:10.699 --> 00:31:11.066
  • What's your name? i said charlie.
  • 00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:11.567
  • I said charlie. she said charlie, you need to
  • 00:31:11.700 --> 00:31:14.136
  • She said charlie, you need to go to your father.
  • 00:31:14.269 --> 00:31:14.670
  • Go to your father. you need to ask him to forgive
  • 00:31:14.803 --> 00:31:17.372
  • You need to ask him to forgive and if you do god is promising
  • 00:31:17.506 --> 00:31:21.710
  • And if you do god is promising to restore her to you years wow
  • 00:31:21.843 --> 00:31:25.214
  • To restore her to you years wow the locus of eden.
  • 00:31:25.347 --> 00:31:28.584
  • The locus of eden. and then she began to tell me
  • 00:31:28.717 --> 00:31:29.451
  • And then she began to tell me things about my life that no
  • 00:31:29.585 --> 00:31:31.186
  • Things about my life that no one could have known except
  • 00:31:31.320 --> 00:31:31.887
  • One could have known except someone who had the inside
  • 00:31:32.020 --> 00:31:32.554
  • Someone who had the inside scoop.
  • 00:31:32.688 --> 00:31:34.990
  • Scoop. and then she finished with
  • 00:31:35.123 --> 00:31:35.791
  • And then she finished with these instructions and she said
  • 00:31:35.924 --> 00:31:36.558
  • These instructions and she said when go to your father throw no
  • 00:31:36.692 --> 00:31:42.998
  • When go to your father throw no rocks.
  • 00:31:43.131 --> 00:31:43.298
  • Rocks. and i knew exactly what she
  • 00:31:43.432 --> 00:31:44.066
  • And i knew exactly what she meant.
  • 00:31:44.199 --> 00:31:44.366
  • Meant. you remember that that was a
  • 00:31:44.499 --> 00:31:46.835
  • You remember that that was a that was more common then.
  • 00:31:46.969 --> 00:31:47.502
  • That was more common then. yeah it meant own your own
  • 00:31:47.636 --> 00:31:48.170
  • Yeah it meant own your own stuff.
  • 00:31:48.303 --> 00:31:48.470
  • Stuff. don't try to extract the
  • 00:31:48.604 --> 00:31:50.739
  • Don't try to extract the apology from him this is not
  • 00:31:50.872 --> 00:31:51.473
  • Apology from him this is not about not about that this is
  • 00:31:51.607 --> 00:31:54.643
  • About not about that this is about you asking him to forgive
  • 00:31:54.776 --> 00:31:55.410
  • About you asking him to forgive you for your attitude and and
  • 00:31:55.544 --> 00:31:57.846
  • You for your attitude and and was a holy mission.
  • 00:31:57.980 --> 00:31:58.447
  • Was a holy mission. it it took on a meaning because
  • 00:31:58.580 --> 00:32:02.317
  • It it took on a meaning because of the way the lord had
  • 00:32:02.451 --> 00:32:02.951
  • Of the way the lord had delivered it in this dramatic
  • 00:32:03.085 --> 00:32:03.719
  • Delivered it in this dramatic fashion was very new to me and
  • 00:32:03.852 --> 00:32:09.358
  • Fashion was very new to me and so he miraculously my father
  • 00:32:09.491 --> 00:32:10.225
  • So he miraculously my father had an opening his schedule for
  • 00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:13.395
  • Had an opening his schedule for an hour and a half on the
  • 00:32:13.528 --> 00:32:14.229
  • An hour and a half on the upcoming saturday afternoon.
  • 00:32:14.363 --> 00:32:17.266
  • Upcoming saturday afternoon. you just have to realize his
  • 00:32:17.399 --> 00:32:18.133
  • You just have to realize his schedule was six or eight
  • 00:32:18.267 --> 00:32:21.303
  • Schedule was six or eight months in advance all the way
  • 00:32:21.436 --> 00:32:22.004
  • Months in advance all the way down to the minutes he was all
  • 00:32:22.137 --> 00:32:24.740
  • Down to the minutes he was all over the world.
  • 00:32:24.873 --> 00:32:25.207
  • Over the world. he was never available.
  • 00:32:25.340 --> 00:32:29.144
  • He was never available. he said really he's talking to
  • 00:32:29.278 --> 00:32:29.911
  • He said really he's talking to my mother in the background
  • 00:32:30.045 --> 00:32:32.948
  • My mother in the background sheila that was my mom's name.
  • 00:32:33.081 --> 00:32:33.682
  • Sheila that was my mom's name. they canceled charlie i'm
  • 00:32:33.815 --> 00:32:36.952
  • They canceled charlie i'm available saturday afternoon at
  • 00:32:37.085 --> 00:32:39.821
  • Available saturday afternoon at 130 if you can be here.
  • 00:32:39.955 --> 00:32:40.455
  • 130 if you can be here. i can be there, dad.
  • 00:32:40.589 --> 00:32:41.056
  • I can be there, dad. all right, bye.
  • 00:32:41.189 --> 00:32:41.556
  • All right, bye. and that's how i drove up that
  • 00:32:42.924 --> 00:32:43.759
  • And that's how i drove up that day.
  • 00:32:43.892 --> 00:32:44.026
  • Day. but the trick was and a lot of
  • 00:32:44.159 --> 00:32:47.462
  • But the trick was and a lot of people ask me this question say
  • 00:32:47.596 --> 00:32:50.332
  • People ask me this question say how did you do that?
  • 00:32:50.465 --> 00:32:50.899
  • How did you do that? and i always have to remember
  • 00:32:51.033 --> 00:32:51.833
  • And i always have to remember to tell them one thing it was
  • 00:32:51.967 --> 00:32:53.568
  • To tell them one thing it was the prophetic word that got my
  • 00:32:53.702 --> 00:32:56.838
  • The prophetic word that got my attention but i had already
  • 00:32:56.972 --> 00:32:57.572
  • Attention but i had already been taught to forgive because
  • 00:32:57.706 --> 00:33:00.976
  • Been taught to forgive because if i'd gone in there having not
  • 00:33:01.109 --> 00:33:04.212
  • If i'd gone in there having not yet forgiven that could have
  • 00:33:04.346 --> 00:33:07.749
  • Yet forgiven that could have turned into a fight and.
  • 00:33:07.883 --> 00:33:11.019
  • Turned into a fight and. i had already forgiven him so i
  • 00:33:11.153 --> 00:33:12.087
  • I had already forgiven him so i only to get him to forgive me.
  • 00:33:12.220 --> 00:33:15.290
  • Only to get him to forgive me. yeah.
  • 00:33:15.424 --> 00:33:15.590
  • Yeah. for your yeah i imagine a
  • 00:33:15.724 --> 00:33:19.361
  • For your yeah i imagine a bolder just fell off of your
  • 00:33:19.494 --> 00:33:23.131
  • Bolder just fell off of your shoulders and walked into
  • 00:33:23.265 --> 00:33:26.802
  • Shoulders and walked into something really incredible.
  • 00:33:26.935 --> 00:33:30.238
  • Something really incredible. what was the transformation
  • 00:33:30.372 --> 00:33:30.939
  • What was the transformation like?
  • 00:33:31.073 --> 00:33:31.239
  • Like? you know i can see it in your
  • 00:33:31.373 --> 00:33:33.408
  • You know i can see it in your what was the transformation
  • 00:33:33.542 --> 00:33:34.076
  • What was the transformation like for everyone around you.
  • 00:33:34.209 --> 00:33:37.679
  • Like for everyone around you. >> i can only describe as in
  • 00:33:37.846 --> 00:33:41.249
  • >> i can only describe as in even in retrospect miraculous
  • 00:33:41.383 --> 00:33:45.020
  • Even in retrospect miraculous the bible came alive to me.
  • 00:33:45.153 --> 00:33:45.787
  • The bible came alive to me. i memorized scripture verses.
  • 00:33:45.921 --> 00:33:49.057
  • I memorized scripture verses. i began to see things that
  • 00:33:49.191 --> 00:33:49.925
  • I began to see things that others didn't in my work life
  • 00:33:50.058 --> 00:33:53.495
  • Others didn't in my work life and i got to be promoted.
  • 00:33:53.628 --> 00:33:54.196
  • And i got to be promoted. i my marriage changed because i
  • 00:33:54.329 --> 00:33:57.299
  • I my marriage changed because i finally established that point
  • 00:33:57.432 --> 00:34:00.769
  • Finally established that point of the affirmed son.
  • 00:34:00.902 --> 00:34:04.539
  • Of the affirmed son. now we weren't fishing buddies
  • 00:34:04.673 --> 00:34:05.374
  • Now we weren't fishing buddies but he's still the chief of
  • 00:34:05.507 --> 00:34:08.143
  • But he's still the chief of naval operations but there was
  • 00:34:08.276 --> 00:34:08.877
  • Naval operations but there was a whole new level respect and i
  • 00:34:09.010 --> 00:34:11.880
  • A whole new level respect and i had gotten enough and with
  • 00:34:12.013 --> 00:34:15.317
  • Had gotten enough and with jesus my marriage change, my
  • 00:34:15.450 --> 00:34:19.187
  • Jesus my marriage change, my relationship with my kids
  • 00:34:19.321 --> 00:34:19.855
  • Relationship with my kids changed my whole view of
  • 00:34:19.988 --> 00:34:20.522
  • Changed my whole view of authority, changed and i got
  • 00:34:20.655 --> 00:34:23.558
  • Authority, changed and i got this piece i didn't have before
  • 00:34:23.692 --> 00:34:27.028
  • This piece i didn't have before i was striving so much anymore.
  • 00:34:27.162 --> 00:34:27.829
  • I was striving so much anymore. i didn't have so much to prove
  • 00:34:27.963 --> 00:34:30.565
  • I didn't have so much to prove and god had just done and i
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  • And god had just done and i didn't have all the theological
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  • Didn't have all the theological basis for it i didn't have all
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  • Basis for it i didn't have all the rules figured out all i is
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  • The rules figured out all i is she said go don't throw any
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  • She said go don't throw any rocks.
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  • Rocks. i went we prayed and god did it
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  • I went we prayed and god did it and it was the launching point
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  • And it was the launching point really for the rest of my and
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  • Really for the rest of my and stuff.
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  • Stuff. i didn't even know of that he
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  • I didn't even know of that he was doing then he was putting
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  • Was doing then he was putting in place them as i say in the
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  • In place them as i say in the book a multi-generational
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  • Book a multi-generational change in a line in the sand
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  • Change in a line in the sand with the blood of jesus that
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  • With the blood of jesus that changed my family.
  • 00:35:04.566 --> 00:35:04.966
  • Changed my family. you know eliminate the spirit
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  • You know eliminate the spirit of criticism.
  • 00:35:09.070 --> 00:35:09.371
  • Of criticism. it was a critical environment i
  • 00:35:09.504 --> 00:35:10.105
  • It was a critical environment i grew up in a very high
  • 00:35:10.238 --> 00:35:12.340
  • Grew up in a very high performance kind of family
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  • Performance kind of family where expect patience even
  • 00:35:13.175 --> 00:35:16.445
  • Where expect patience even unsaid were very high and i'm
  • 00:35:16.578 --> 00:35:17.179
  • Unsaid were very high and i'm sure you can relate to this and
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  • Sure you can relate to this and i didn't feel i measured up.
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  • I didn't feel i measured up. >> hmm.
  • 00:35:24.386 --> 00:35:24.586
  • >> hmm. you know people you say well
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  • You know people you say well you went to the naval academy a
  • 00:35:27.889 --> 00:35:28.523
  • You went to the naval academy a hard place to get into.
  • 00:35:28.657 --> 00:35:29.124
  • Hard place to get into. he he went to nuclear power
  • 00:35:29.257 --> 00:35:29.825
  • He he went to nuclear power school.
  • 00:35:29.958 --> 00:35:30.959
  • School. i didn't feel that way about
  • 00:35:31.092 --> 00:35:31.993
  • I didn't feel that way about myself.
  • 00:35:32.127 --> 00:35:34.863
  • Myself. i still there wasn't enough.
  • 00:35:34.996 --> 00:35:35.564
  • I still there wasn't enough. it was enough.
  • 00:35:35.697 --> 00:35:35.997
  • It was enough. i still felt like a b student.
  • 00:35:36.131 --> 00:35:38.433
  • I still felt like a b student. >> yeah.
  • 00:35:38.567 --> 00:35:38.767
  • >> yeah. yeah, well, we're supposed to
  • 00:35:38.900 --> 00:35:39.501
  • Yeah, well, we're supposed to talk about your throw no rocks
  • 00:35:39.634 --> 00:35:42.170
  • Talk about your throw no rocks so you've taken this whole
  • 00:35:42.304 --> 00:35:45.307
  • So you've taken this whole experience and now it's
  • 00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:45.941
  • Experience and now it's transformed about how you
  • 00:35:46.074 --> 00:35:49.811
  • Transformed about how you conduct business, how you live
  • 00:35:49.945 --> 00:35:50.545
  • Conduct business, how you live your life, you how it's
  • 00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:53.415
  • Your life, you how it's revitalized your marriage and
  • 00:35:53.548 --> 00:35:56.985
  • Revitalized your marriage and you know, just the total
  • 00:35:57.118 --> 00:35:57.719
  • You know, just the total transformation.
  • 00:35:57.853 --> 00:35:58.186
  • Transformation. >> we're out of but the book is
  • 00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:01.022
  • >> we're out of but the book is called throw no rocks a man's
  • 00:36:01.156 --> 00:36:01.723
  • Called throw no rocks a man's guide to success through
  • 00:36:01.857 --> 00:36:02.357
  • Guide to success through partnership with god.
  • 00:36:02.491 --> 00:36:05.260
  • Partnership with god. >> and if you're struggling
  • 00:36:05.393 --> 00:36:06.027
  • >> and if you're struggling with with unforgiveness and
  • 00:36:06.161 --> 00:36:09.164
  • With with unforgiveness and particularly with with a family
  • 00:36:09.297 --> 00:36:09.931
  • Particularly with with a family member i know that sometimes
  • 00:36:10.065 --> 00:36:13.535
  • Member i know that sometimes that can be very hard.
  • 00:36:13.668 --> 00:36:14.135
  • That can be very hard. i like to encourage people if
  • 00:36:14.269 --> 00:36:17.105
  • I like to encourage people if you didn't know a father, if
  • 00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:17.839
  • You didn't know a father, if you didn't have parents in your
  • 00:36:17.973 --> 00:36:21.409
  • You didn't have parents in your life you could always ask your
  • 00:36:21.543 --> 00:36:24.613
  • Life you could always ask your father to come in and say could
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  • Father to come in and say could you re parent good.
  • 00:36:25.580 --> 00:36:28.283
  • You re parent good. could you show me the way?
  • 00:36:28.416 --> 00:36:29.050
  • Could you show me the way? and if you're having trouble
  • 00:36:29.184 --> 00:36:32.120
  • And if you're having trouble forgiving we've got plenty of
  • 00:36:32.254 --> 00:36:32.854
  • Forgiving we've got plenty of resources for you the
  • 00:36:32.988 --> 00:36:33.421
  • Resources for you the scriptures that i'll walk you
  • 00:36:33.555 --> 00:36:35.957
  • Scriptures that i'll walk you through forgiveness is a
  • 00:36:36.091 --> 00:36:36.591
  • Through forgiveness is a process it's not a one and done
  • 00:36:36.725 --> 00:36:40.161
  • Process it's not a one and done sometimes you've got memories
  • 00:36:40.295 --> 00:36:40.896
  • Sometimes you've got memories that keep coming back when they
  • 00:36:41.029 --> 00:36:44.165
  • That keep coming back when they do you've got to forgive again
  • 00:36:44.299 --> 00:36:45.000
  • Do you've got to forgive again and until you get free from it
  • 00:36:45.133 --> 00:36:48.203
  • And until you get free from it but you can see from charley's
  • 00:36:48.336 --> 00:36:49.037
  • But you can see from charley's face that transformation is
  • 00:36:49.170 --> 00:36:51.406
  • Face that transformation is absolutely worth it and the
  • 00:36:51.540 --> 00:36:54.943
  • Absolutely worth it and the advice he gives in this book is
  • 00:36:55.076 --> 00:36:55.877
  • Advice he gives in this book is absolutely it throw no rocks.
  • 00:36:56.011 --> 00:36:59.080
  • Absolutely it throw no rocks. it's available nationwide.
  • 00:36:59.214 --> 00:36:59.714
  • It's available nationwide. charlie thank you for that
  • 00:36:59.848 --> 00:37:02.450
  • Charlie thank you for that story.
  • 00:37:02.584 --> 00:37:02.751
  • Story. that's really that's really
  • 00:37:02.884 --> 00:37:03.451
  • That's really that's really incredible.
  • 00:37:03.585 --> 00:37:03.852
  • Incredible. thank you very much thank you
  • 00:37:03.985 --> 00:37:06.288
  • Thank you very much thank you for having me.
  • 00:37:06.421 --> 00:37:06.755
  • For having me. >> all right, terry, over to
  • 00:37:06.888 --> 00:37:07.489
  • >> all right, terry, over to you.
  • 00:37:07.622 --> 00:37:07.756
  • You. well, still a mother's
  • 00:37:07.889 --> 00:37:09.758
  • Well, still a mother's nightmare, a bitter custody
  • 00:37:09.891 --> 00:37:13.461
  • Nightmare, a bitter custody battle took her daughter away.
  • 00:37:13.595 --> 00:37:14.195
  • Battle took her daughter away. see how a dream revealed truth
  • 00:37:14.329 --> 00:37:17.699
  • See how a dream revealed truth about her ex and changed her
  • 00:37:17.832 --> 00:37:18.400
  • About her ex and changed her heart along the way.
  • 00:37:18.533 --> 00:37:21.996
  • >> amazing. to learn more call today or go
  • 00:37:21.996 --> 00:37:22.901
  • To learn more call today or go to gentle cure icon.
  • 00:37:23.035 --> 00:37:29.508
  • To gentle cure icon. >> welcome back to the 700 club
  • 00:37:29.641 --> 00:37:32.177
  • >> welcome back to the 700 club for this cbn newsbreak.
  • 00:37:32.310 --> 00:37:32.811
  • For this cbn newsbreak. the senate passed a bill
  • 00:37:32.944 --> 00:37:33.478
  • The senate passed a bill approving president request to
  • 00:37:33.612 --> 00:37:36.214
  • Approving president request to claw back $9 billion in
  • 00:37:36.348 --> 00:37:36.848
  • Claw back $9 billion in government spending that
  • 00:37:36.982 --> 00:37:40.118
  • Government spending that defunds the corporation for
  • 00:37:40.252 --> 00:37:40.786
  • Defunds the corporation for public broadcasting which
  • 00:37:40.919 --> 00:37:41.420
  • Public broadcasting which includes pbs and npr.
  • 00:37:41.553 --> 00:37:44.322
  • Includes pbs and npr. it also cut some global aid
  • 00:37:44.456 --> 00:37:48.226
  • It also cut some global aid programs.
  • 00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:48.627
  • Programs. the bill passed 51 to 48 with
  • 00:37:48.760 --> 00:37:51.296
  • The bill passed 51 to 48 with republican senators lisa
  • 00:37:51.430 --> 00:37:51.930
  • Republican senators lisa murkowski of alaska maine's
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  • Murkowski of alaska maine's susan collins voting against it
  • 00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:55.434
  • Susan collins voting against it and now goes back to the house
  • 00:37:55.567 --> 00:37:58.503
  • And now goes back to the house final approval which could
  • 00:37:58.637 --> 00:37:59.171
  • Final approval which could whether it continues to assault
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  • Whether it continues to assault u.s..
  • 00:38:02.040 --> 00:38:02.207
  • U.s.. multiple tornadoes touching
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  • Multiple tornadoes touching down in the midwest.
  • 00:38:03.008 --> 00:38:05.677
  • Down in the midwest. in new orleans people are
  • 00:38:05.811 --> 00:38:06.344
  • In new orleans people are filling sandbags as a tropical
  • 00:38:06.478 --> 00:38:07.112
  • Filling sandbags as a tropical storm hovers off the gulf
  • 00:38:07.245 --> 00:38:10.048
  • Storm hovers off the gulf coast.
  • 00:38:10.182 --> 00:38:10.348
  • Coast. it could drop up to ten inches
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  • It could drop up to ten inches of rain.
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  • Of rain. the northeast bracing for more
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  • The northeast bracing for more flash as storms bring heavy
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  • Flash as storms bring heavy rain.
  • 00:38:17.089 --> 00:38:17.255
  • Rain. >> in new jersey, man died and
  • 00:38:17.389 --> 00:38:20.459
  • >> in new jersey, man died and more than a dozen were injured
  • 00:38:20.592 --> 00:38:21.193
  • More than a dozen were injured when lightning struck an
  • 00:38:21.326 --> 00:38:23.762
  • When lightning struck an archery range.
  • 00:38:23.895 --> 00:38:24.229
  • Archery range. it's the second death by
  • 00:38:24.362 --> 00:38:26.732
  • It's the second death by lightning in the state this
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  • Lightning in the state this week.
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  • Week. you can always get the latest
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  • You can always get the latest from cbn news by going to our
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  • From cbn news by going to our website at cbsnews.com.
  • 00:38:31.436 --> 00:38:31.937
  • Website at cbsnews.com. gordon and terry will be back
  • 00:38:32.070 --> 00:38:35.140
  • Gordon and terry will be back with more of the 700 club right
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  • With more of the 700 club right after this this.
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  • Lessons for a future we must build together.
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  • Build together. >> register now at history
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  • >> register now at history explorer dot.
  • 00:38:39.581 --> 00:38:39.882
  • Explorer dot. tomorrow how a child hits his
  • 00:38:40.015 --> 00:38:43.819
  • Tomorrow how a child hits his head and it's the part of the
  • 00:38:43.952 --> 00:38:44.787
  • Head and it's the part of the brain that controls your
  • 00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:47.089
  • Brain that controls your speech.
  • 00:38:47.222 --> 00:38:47.422
  • Speech. >> he struggled so to talk to
  • 00:38:47.556 --> 00:38:51.126
  • >> he struggled so to talk to get a sentence out of the blue
  • 00:38:51.260 --> 00:38:52.060
  • Get a sentence out of the blue like a mike.
  • 00:38:52.194 --> 00:38:54.496
  • Like a mike. doctors fix him.
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  • Doctors fix him. he didn't give us any hope.
  • 00:38:59.101 --> 00:38:59.735
  • He didn't give us any hope. it's going to take time i said
  • 00:38:59.868 --> 00:39:03.038
  • It's going to take time i said getting worse his supernatural
  • 00:39:03.172 --> 00:39:03.772
  • Getting worse his supernatural cure.
  • 00:39:03.906 --> 00:39:04.072
  • Cure. i do.
  • 00:39:04.206 --> 00:39:07.042
  • I do. god healed me.
  • 00:39:07.176 --> 00:39:07.509
  • God healed me. i knew that god touched me and
  • 00:39:07.643 --> 00:39:08.343
  • I knew that god touched me and i never stuttered.
  • 00:39:08.477 --> 00:39:10.179
  • I never stuttered. >> tomorrow in india a boy
  • 00:39:10.312 --> 00:39:14.249
  • >> tomorrow in india a boy named shiva suffered from a
  • 00:39:14.383 --> 00:39:14.950
  • Named shiva suffered from a congenital condition as he grew
  • 00:39:15.083 --> 00:39:18.353
  • Congenital condition as he grew his pain was compounded by
  • 00:39:18.487 --> 00:39:19.054
  • His pain was compounded by shame and humiliation.
  • 00:39:19.188 --> 00:39:21.657
  • Shame and humiliation. >> ever since he was born,
  • 00:39:21.790 --> 00:39:25.828
  • >> ever since he was born, shiva then faced various
  • 00:39:25.961 --> 00:39:26.461
  • Shiva then faced various problems because of his club
  • 00:39:26.595 --> 00:39:27.162
  • Problems because of his club feet.
  • 00:39:27.296 --> 00:39:29.031
  • Feet. >> as he got older the pain
  • 00:39:29.164 --> 00:39:30.098
  • >> as he got older the pain increased even was a struggle
  • 00:39:30.232 --> 00:39:33.502
  • Increased even was a struggle for me.
  • 00:39:33.635 --> 00:39:33.836
  • For me. >> every step felt like a
  • 00:39:33.969 --> 00:39:36.839
  • >> every step felt like a challenge.
  • 00:39:36.972 --> 00:39:37.206
  • Challenge. when i tried to play or run,
  • 00:39:37.339 --> 00:39:40.542
  • When i tried to play or run, feet would hurt so much he
  • 00:39:40.676 --> 00:39:41.410
  • Feet would hurt so much he would often while walking.
  • 00:39:41.543 --> 00:39:44.379
  • Would often while walking. >> it broke my heart to see him
  • 00:39:44.513 --> 00:39:45.414
  • >> it broke my heart to see him like this.
  • 00:39:45.547 --> 00:39:45.781
  • Like this. kids teased me.
  • 00:39:45.914 --> 00:39:48.884
  • Kids teased me. >> they called me names.
  • 00:39:49.017 --> 00:39:49.551
  • >> they called me names. it made so angry and sad.
  • 00:39:49.685 --> 00:39:52.321
  • It made so angry and sad. i kept begging my dad.
  • 00:39:52.454 --> 00:39:56.291
  • I kept begging my dad. please do something.
  • 00:39:56.425 --> 00:39:56.859
  • Please do something. please make feet normal.
  • 00:39:56.992 --> 00:39:59.795
  • Please make feet normal. >> i had no money to pay for
  • 00:39:59.928 --> 00:40:03.699
  • >> i had no money to pay for surgery.
  • 00:40:03.832 --> 00:40:04.032
  • Surgery. i tried everything thinking,
  • 00:40:04.166 --> 00:40:04.733
  • I tried everything thinking, starting asking but there was
  • 00:40:04.867 --> 00:40:07.903
  • Starting asking but there was no solution.
  • 00:40:08.036 --> 00:40:08.303
  • No solution. >> then shiva, his father heard
  • 00:40:08.437 --> 00:40:09.071
  • >> then shiva, his father heard about an operation blessing
  • 00:40:09.204 --> 00:40:11.874
  • About an operation blessing medical camp that had arrived
  • 00:40:12.007 --> 00:40:12.608
  • Medical camp that had arrived near their village.
  • 00:40:12.741 --> 00:40:13.141
  • Near their village. >> day changed everything.
  • 00:40:13.275 --> 00:40:16.078
  • >> day changed everything. they listened to my son's and
  • 00:40:16.211 --> 00:40:19.147
  • They listened to my son's and connected us to a partner
  • 00:40:19.281 --> 00:40:19.815
  • Connected us to a partner hospital.
  • 00:40:19.948 --> 00:40:20.182
  • Hospital. they assured us the surgery
  • 00:40:20.315 --> 00:40:23.485
  • They assured us the surgery would be free of charge.
  • 00:40:23.619 --> 00:40:24.152
  • Would be free of charge. i could not believe it helped.
  • 00:40:24.286 --> 00:40:26.822
  • I could not believe it helped. >> and finally arrived at my
  • 00:40:26.955 --> 00:40:27.689
  • >> and finally arrived at my feet straight.
  • 00:40:27.823 --> 00:40:31.360
  • Feet straight. now i can run, play cricket and
  • 00:40:31.493 --> 00:40:32.427
  • Now i can run, play cricket and laugh my friends.
  • 00:40:32.561 --> 00:40:34.930
  • Laugh my friends. >> no one makes fun of me
  • 00:40:35.063 --> 00:40:35.731
  • >> no one makes fun of me anymore.
  • 00:40:35.864 --> 00:40:36.064
  • Anymore. i feel so happy.
  • 00:40:36.198 --> 00:40:38.934
  • I feel so happy. >> i can't express how grateful
  • 00:40:39.067 --> 00:40:39.868
  • >> i can't express how grateful i seeing him walk and run like
  • 00:40:40.002 --> 00:40:43.438
  • I seeing him walk and run like other children.
  • 00:40:43.572 --> 00:40:43.906
  • Other children. it's like a dream come.
  • 00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:46.642
  • It's like a dream come. >> true.
  • 00:40:46.775 --> 00:40:46.975
  • >> true. i can do everything by myself
  • 00:40:47.109 --> 00:40:47.809
  • I can do everything by myself now.
  • 00:40:47.943 --> 00:40:48.076
  • Now. i feel free like a bird soaring
  • 00:40:49.878 --> 00:40:50.846
  • I feel free like a bird soaring in the sky without pain or fear
  • 00:40:50.979 --> 00:40:54.082
  • In the sky without pain or fear of falling.
  • 00:40:54.216 --> 00:40:54.483
  • Of falling. thank so much to everyone who
  • 00:40:54.616 --> 00:40:58.020
  • Thank so much to everyone who made this possible.
  • 00:40:58.153 --> 00:41:01.056
  • Made this possible. that's you if you're a 700 club
  • 00:41:01.189 --> 00:41:05.527
  • That's you if you're a 700 club partner.
  • 00:41:05.661 --> 00:41:05.861
  • Partner. we want to say thank you to
  • 00:41:05.994 --> 00:41:06.561
  • We want to say thank you to you.
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  • You. i love these stories because
  • 00:41:06.962 --> 00:41:09.431
  • I love these stories because it's one thing to say well, i
  • 00:41:09.564 --> 00:41:10.132
  • It's one thing to say well, i know this organization is good
  • 00:41:10.265 --> 00:41:13.335
  • Know this organization is good and they do good things and so
  • 00:41:13.468 --> 00:41:14.136
  • And they do good things and so i'm going to support it.
  • 00:41:14.269 --> 00:41:14.770
  • I'm going to support it. this is just one individual
  • 00:41:14.903 --> 00:41:17.139
  • This is just one individual life but one of thousands you
  • 00:41:17.272 --> 00:41:21.143
  • Life but one of thousands you have touched if you're a 700
  • 00:41:21.276 --> 00:41:21.843
  • Have touched if you're a 700 club member.
  • 00:41:21.977 --> 00:41:22.244
  • Club member. hope comes.
  • 00:41:22.377 --> 00:41:24.680
  • Hope comes. there was no hope for this
  • 00:41:24.813 --> 00:41:25.447
  • There was no hope for this little boy.
  • 00:41:25.580 --> 00:41:25.847
  • Little boy. his dad could not make it
  • 00:41:25.981 --> 00:41:28.917
  • His dad could not make it happen and then god sends this
  • 00:41:29.051 --> 00:41:29.751
  • Happen and then god sends this medical to his area.
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  • All that and more. there was just one catch she
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  • There was just one catch she had to become a stripper.
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  • Had to become a stripper. >> it was just like deep
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  • >> it was just like deep humiliation.
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  • Humiliation. and this thought of people
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  • And this thought of people seeing that shame.
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  • Seeing that shame. like it just utter
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  • Like it just utter embarrassment.
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  • Embarrassment. in 2010, 20 year old angela
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  • In 2010, 20 year old angela thorne had desperately been
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  • Thorne had desperately been searching for love and feeling
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  • Searching for love and feeling the worth that she had once
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  • The worth that she had once felt when she was a child.
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  • Felt when she was a child. i knew nothing about love, you
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  • I knew nothing about love, you know, and sense and and the
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  • Know, and sense and and the kind of love that i feel like
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  • Kind of love that i feel like we were designed to experience.
  • 00:44:30.061 --> 00:44:30.695
  • We were designed to experience. >> although she grew up in
  • 00:44:30.828 --> 00:44:31.529
  • >> although she grew up in church once had a deep
  • 00:44:31.662 --> 00:44:34.499
  • Church once had a deep relationship with god and her
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  • Relationship with god and her family parents got divorced at
  • 00:44:35.366 --> 00:44:38.102
  • Family parents got divorced at just ten years old.
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  • Just ten years old. she struggled to make peace
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  • She struggled to make peace with what happened and began to
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  • With what happened and began to search for ways to numb the
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  • Search for ways to numb the pain.
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  • Pain. i didn't know how to heal from
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  • I didn't know how to heal from that or how to release.
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  • That or how to release. none of that.
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  • None of that. and so what ended up happening
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  • And so what ended up happening around the age of ten as i
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  • Around the age of ten as i started seeking out like the
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  • Started seeking out like the bad crowd if you will like i
  • 00:44:54.752 --> 00:44:58.055
  • Bad crowd if you will like i had this sense of urging like
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  • Had this sense of urging like this urgency to be rebellious.
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  • This urgency to be rebellious. it gave me rush that numbed
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  • It gave me rush that numbed that pain.
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  • That pain. >> she fell into the party
  • 00:45:09.367 --> 00:45:10.134
  • >> she fell into the party scene at just 11 years old.
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  • Scene at just 11 years old. drugs, alcohol and quickly
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  • Drugs, alcohol and quickly became her new normal even
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  • Became her new normal even though it wasn't a good thing.
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  • Though it wasn't a good thing. i felt in control even though i
  • 00:45:20.444 --> 00:45:21.245
  • I felt in control even though i was completely under control.
  • 00:45:21.379 --> 00:45:23.981
  • Was completely under control. >> she lived this lifestyle all
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  • >> she lived this lifestyle all the way through her years.
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  • The way through her years. not long after graduating high
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  • Not long after graduating high school, angela left home and
  • 00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:31.956
  • School, angela left home and moved into a drug house with a
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  • Moved into a drug house with a man she was dating at the time
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  • Man she was dating at the time she started working as a
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  • She started working as a bartender but soon realized
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  • Bartender but soon realized wanted more for her life.
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  • Wanted more for her life. >> one night while at a strip
  • 00:45:40.264 --> 00:45:43.401
  • >> one night while at a strip with her boyfriend, a stripper
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  • With her boyfriend, a stripper approached her about working at
  • 00:45:44.268 --> 00:45:44.869
  • Approached her about working at the.
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  • The. she came and picked me up in
  • 00:45:47.371 --> 00:45:48.105
  • She came and picked me up in her corvette her lifestyle so
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  • Her corvette her lifestyle so lavish she had this big house
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  • Lavish she had this big house to herself.
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  • To herself. she's just really making her
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  • She's just really making her lifestyle look glamorous,
  • 00:45:55.913 --> 00:45:58.950
  • Lifestyle look glamorous, essentially telling me i could
  • 00:45:59.083 --> 00:45:59.684
  • Essentially telling me i could have all of this too.
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  • Have all of this too. angela began working at the
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  • Angela began working at the strip club but realized she was
  • 00:46:04.088 --> 00:46:06.791
  • Strip club but realized she was disillusioned with the reality
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  • Disillusioned with the reality of life as a stripper.
  • 00:46:07.658 --> 00:46:11.095
  • Of life as a stripper. >> it was just like deep
  • 00:46:11.229 --> 00:46:12.063
  • >> it was just like deep humiliation and this thought of
  • 00:46:12.196 --> 00:46:14.899
  • Humiliation and this thought of people seeing that shape like
  • 00:46:15.032 --> 00:46:21.405
  • People seeing that shape like just utter embarrassment.
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  • Just utter embarrassment. after three years as a
  • 00:46:25.409 --> 00:46:25.943
  • After three years as a stripper, angela then found
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  • Stripper, angela then found herself pregnant and alone at
  • 00:46:26.777 --> 00:46:29.513
  • Herself pregnant and alone at the age of 22.
  • 00:46:29.647 --> 00:46:29.981
  • The age of 22. she wanted things to be
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  • She wanted things to be different for her and her
  • 00:46:33.551 --> 00:46:34.051
  • Different for her and her daughter so she left the
  • 00:46:34.185 --> 00:46:36.821
  • Daughter so she left the industry and went back to
  • 00:46:36.954 --> 00:46:37.488
  • Industry and went back to bartending where she eventually
  • 00:46:37.622 --> 00:46:38.222
  • Bartending where she eventually met another bartender who she
  • 00:46:38.356 --> 00:46:41.459
  • Met another bartender who she connected with.
  • 00:46:41.592 --> 00:46:41.926
  • Connected with. would say it wasn't love at
  • 00:46:44.362 --> 00:46:45.162
  • Would say it wasn't love at first sight but it was like
  • 00:46:45.296 --> 00:46:48.532
  • First sight but it was like this guy's different and there
  • 00:46:48.666 --> 00:46:49.233
  • This guy's different and there was a moment where he took my
  • 00:46:49.367 --> 00:46:52.270
  • Was a moment where he took my glasses off and like looked me
  • 00:46:52.403 --> 00:46:53.037
  • Glasses off and like looked me in my eyes and told how
  • 00:46:53.170 --> 00:46:56.207
  • In my eyes and told how beautiful i was and i had never
  • 00:46:56.340 --> 00:46:57.041
  • Beautiful i was and i had never experienced that.
  • 00:46:57.174 --> 00:46:59.677
  • Experienced that. it was the first interaction i
  • 00:46:59.810 --> 00:47:00.478
  • It was the first interaction i had with a man that was
  • 00:47:00.611 --> 00:47:03.414
  • Had with a man that was respectable and honorable and
  • 00:47:03.547 --> 00:47:04.148
  • Respectable and honorable and kind.
  • 00:47:04.282 --> 00:47:06.984
  • Kind. >> it literally took that for
  • 00:47:07.118 --> 00:47:07.852
  • >> it literally took that for me to shift how i thought about
  • 00:47:07.985 --> 00:47:11.522
  • Me to shift how i thought about myself.
  • 00:47:11.656 --> 00:47:11.856
  • Myself. >> derrick and angela dated for
  • 00:47:11.989 --> 00:47:14.592
  • >> derrick and angela dated for three years before they got
  • 00:47:14.725 --> 00:47:15.426
  • Three years before they got married in 2017 then at 27
  • 00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:17.995
  • Married in 2017 then at 27 years old with her husband two
  • 00:47:18.129 --> 00:47:21.666
  • Years old with her husband two kids.
  • 00:47:21.799 --> 00:47:21.966
  • Kids. angela was starting to get the
  • 00:47:22.099 --> 00:47:22.700
  • Angela was starting to get the life she had always.
  • 00:47:22.833 --> 00:47:25.569
  • Life she had always. that is until the biological
  • 00:47:25.703 --> 00:47:26.337
  • That is until the biological father of her daughter returned
  • 00:47:26.470 --> 00:47:29.240
  • Father of her daughter returned and demanded full custody.
  • 00:47:29.373 --> 00:47:32.543
  • And demanded full custody. she lost the custody battle and
  • 00:47:32.710 --> 00:47:33.411
  • She lost the custody battle and became fueled with and
  • 00:47:33.544 --> 00:47:36.647
  • Became fueled with and disappointment.
  • 00:47:36.781 --> 00:47:37.114
  • Disappointment. she went to bed that night, had
  • 00:47:37.248 --> 00:47:40.251
  • She went to bed that night, had a dream she never expected to
  • 00:47:40.384 --> 00:47:40.985
  • A dream she never expected to have.
  • 00:47:41.118 --> 00:47:41.285
  • Have. i woke that morning with this
  • 00:47:41.419 --> 00:47:44.388
  • I woke that morning with this deep conviction to make amends
  • 00:47:44.522 --> 00:47:48.192
  • Deep conviction to make amends with her biological father and
  • 00:47:48.326 --> 00:47:51.729
  • With her biological father and in like just like we have to
  • 00:47:51.862 --> 00:47:52.496
  • In like just like we have to make this work.
  • 00:47:52.630 --> 00:47:52.963
  • Make this work. i like i almost was seeing him
  • 00:47:53.097 --> 00:47:56.200
  • I like i almost was seeing him as christ does her her father
  • 00:47:56.334 --> 00:47:59.470
  • As christ does her her father and had like a tenderness
  • 00:47:59.603 --> 00:48:03.541
  • And had like a tenderness towards him.
  • 00:48:03.674 --> 00:48:03.974
  • Towards him. >> it was weird and i sang it
  • 00:48:04.108 --> 00:48:06.844
  • >> it was weird and i sang it that way because i was like not
  • 00:48:06.977 --> 00:48:07.611
  • That way because i was like not that i had a hatred i had deep
  • 00:48:07.745 --> 00:48:10.881
  • That i had a hatred i had deep hatred and just the night
  • 00:48:11.015 --> 00:48:11.549
  • Hatred and just the night before and and also in the
  • 00:48:11.682 --> 00:48:15.019
  • Before and and also in the midst of all that i was like we
  • 00:48:15.152 --> 00:48:18.389
  • Midst of all that i was like we to go back to church.
  • 00:48:18.522 --> 00:48:19.056
  • To go back to church. >> angela and her family
  • 00:48:19.190 --> 00:48:19.890
  • >> angela and her family immediately started attending
  • 00:48:20.024 --> 00:48:22.326
  • Immediately started attending church and gave their lives to
  • 00:48:22.460 --> 00:48:23.060
  • Church and gave their lives to the lord for heart was just
  • 00:48:23.194 --> 00:48:26.430
  • The lord for heart was just shifting and i surely enough we
  • 00:48:26.564 --> 00:48:30.000
  • Shifting and i surely enough we we started making amends with
  • 00:48:30.134 --> 00:48:30.735
  • We started making amends with her biological and that's when
  • 00:48:30.868 --> 00:48:33.838
  • Her biological and that's when we started going to the church
  • 00:48:33.971 --> 00:48:34.572
  • We started going to the church that we married and i started
  • 00:48:34.705 --> 00:48:37.575
  • That we married and i started leading worship which i hadn't
  • 00:48:37.708 --> 00:48:38.309
  • Leading worship which i hadn't done prior.
  • 00:48:38.442 --> 00:48:41.045
  • Done prior. it was like finding a new space
  • 00:48:41.178 --> 00:48:42.012
  • It was like finding a new space to release and just be in the
  • 00:48:42.146 --> 00:48:45.683
  • To release and just be in the presence of god and.
  • 00:48:45.816 --> 00:48:49.253
  • Presence of god and. >> that's where the healing
  • 00:48:49.387 --> 00:48:49.920
  • >> that's where the healing journey started for our whole
  • 00:48:50.054 --> 00:48:50.621
  • Journey started for our whole family.
  • 00:48:50.755 --> 00:48:50.955
  • Family. we all together that was the
  • 00:48:51.088 --> 00:48:53.524
  • We all together that was the first step i would say i just,
  • 00:48:53.657 --> 00:48:57.194
  • First step i would say i just, i fell in love and i fully
  • 00:48:57.328 --> 00:48:57.962
  • I fell in love and i fully surrendered my life.
  • 00:48:58.095 --> 00:49:00.798
  • Surrendered my life. >> today angela and derrick are
  • 00:49:00.931 --> 00:49:01.565
  • >> today angela and derrick are continuing to make god their
  • 00:49:01.699 --> 00:49:04.435
  • Continuing to make god their priority.
  • 00:49:04.568 --> 00:49:04.802
  • Priority. they received joint custody of
  • 00:49:04.935 --> 00:49:07.505
  • They received joint custody of her first daughter and she was
  • 00:49:07.638 --> 00:49:08.239
  • Her first daughter and she was able to forgive her parents.
  • 00:49:08.372 --> 00:49:11.208
  • Able to forgive her parents. through her ministry, angela
  • 00:49:11.342 --> 00:49:11.909
  • Through her ministry, angela encourages other women to trust
  • 00:49:12.042 --> 00:49:12.643
  • Encourages other women to trust that will bring redemption and
  • 00:49:12.777 --> 00:49:15.012
  • That will bring redemption and healing to their circumstances
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  • Healing to their circumstances .
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  • . god is with you and he wants
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  • God is with you and he wants nothing desires nothing else
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  • Nothing desires nothing else but for you to just give it to
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  • But for you to just give it to him so he can do what he does
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  • Him so he can do what he does and that's trance form us,
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  • And that's trance form us, that's cleanse us and make us
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  • That's cleanse us and make us new.
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  • New. >> the bible says god knew us
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  • >> the bible says god knew us before.
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  • Before. we were ever formed in our
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  • We were ever formed in our mother's wombs.
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  • Mother's wombs. we came within into this world
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  • We came within into this world and we came with a god desiring
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  • And we came with a god desiring us to with god desiring us to
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  • Us to with god desiring us to become his to be identified as
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  • Become his to be identified as his children of the living god.
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  • His children of the living god. and then there's the enemy god
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  • And then there's the enemy god whose greatest joy comes from
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  • Whose greatest joy comes from besmirching that image from
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  • Besmirching that image from saying that's not who you are
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  • Saying that's not who you are in order to way back in the
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  • In order to way back in the garden nothing has changed
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  • Garden nothing has changed much.
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  • Much. did god really say oh no, you
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  • Did god really say oh no, you could be like him.
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  • Could be like him. you be more than you are.
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  • You be more than you are. >> he didn't mean that.
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  • >> he didn't mean that. you know there are things that
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  • You know there are things that happened to us in our lives
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  • Happened to us in our lives when we're and we can't control
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  • When we're and we can't control those things in this scenario,
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  • Those things in this scenario, angela's parents get divorced.
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  • Angela's parents get divorced. it shakes her world.
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  • It shakes her world. it rocks her understanding
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  • It rocks her understanding she's not she's not mature and
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  • She's not she's not mature and her faith in the lord and then
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  • Her faith in the lord and then the temptations start coming
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  • The temptations start coming and what the enemy is doing in
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  • And what the enemy is doing in your life and mine is trying
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  • Your life and mine is trying rob us of the identity of who
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  • Rob us of the identity of who we are as god's god's children
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  • We are as god's god's children and god's people and happens
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  • And god's people and happens with all kinds of things and
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  • With all kinds of things and ultimately brings us to a point
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  • Ultimately brings us to a point of shame we become disgusted
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  • Of shame we become disgusted with ourselves.
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  • With ourselves. >> in my own life i often think
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  • >> in my own life i often think i know who i am without jesus
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  • I know who i am without jesus and i'm not going back there
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  • And i'm not going back there now.
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  • Now. i don't know where you are
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  • I don't know where you are today in your life but know
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  • Today in your life but know things have happened to you
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  • Things have happened to you because that's the way it is
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  • Because that's the way it is here we're on a journey we're
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  • Here we're on a journey we're on a journey from where we came
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  • On a journey from where we came from to where we created go and
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  • From to where we created go and along the way our destination
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  • Along the way our destination is ours to make our choice.
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  • Is ours to make our choice. god doesn't want anybody to be
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  • God doesn't want anybody to be kept apart from he doesn't do
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  • Kept apart from he doesn't do that.
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  • That. we do that by the choices that
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  • We do that by the choices that we.
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  • We. but here's the great news it's
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  • But here's the great news it's why they call him the redeemer.
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  • Why they call him the redeemer. it doesn't matter what's been
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  • It doesn't matter what's been done to you where you've been,
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  • Done to you where you've been, how you feel all of the
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  • How you feel all of the identity crisis you it's never
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  • Identity crisis you it's never ever ever too late to come back
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  • Ever ever too late to come back to the father heart of god the
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  • To the father heart of god the creator of the universe waits
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  • Creator of the universe waits for you.
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  • For you. what are you going to do with
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  • What are you going to do with that today, dear friend?
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  • That today, dear friend? i mean this isn't about our
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  • I mean this isn't about our today whether we're happy.
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  • Today whether we're happy. this is about eternity for you.
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  • This is about eternity for you. what are you to do with that
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  • What are you to do with that invitation?
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  • Invitation? you can wallow in your shame,
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  • You can wallow in your shame, can wallow in your loss this
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  • Can wallow in your loss this you can blame other people and
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  • You can blame other people and wallow in unforgiveness or
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  • Wallow in unforgiveness or today you you can start the
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  • Today you you can start the journey.
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  • Journey. you can say god yes god i
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  • You can say god yes god i choose show me who i am and you
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  • Choose show me who i am and you show me what you created be me
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  • Show me what you created be me to be and friend.
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  • To be and friend. if you have unforgiveness you
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  • If you have unforgiveness you need to take care of that just
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  • Need to take care of that just like our guest talked about
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  • Like our guest talked about today just like angela talked
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  • Today just like angela talked about when we forgive the
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  • About when we forgive the windows of heaven open over us
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  • Windows of heaven open over us and we find out not just two
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  • And we find out not just two weeks but we don't miss that if
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  • Weeks but we don't miss that if you need prayer call our toll
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  • You need prayer call our toll free number is 1-800-700-7000.
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  • Free number is 1-800-700-7000. here's a word from for you.
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  • Here's a word from for you. psalm 46 god is our refuge and
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  • Psalm 46 god is our refuge and strength an ever present help
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  • Strength an ever present help in trouble.
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  • In trouble. >> god bless you throughout the
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