The 700 Club

May 7, 2026

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The following program.
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The following program. is.
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Is. sponsored by cbn.
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Sponsored by cbn. today you're going.
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Today you're going.
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>> to.
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>> to. die you're going to die you're
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Die you're going to die you're going to die.
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Going to die. .
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>> so that's.
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>> so that's. why i always.
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Why i always. drink to mask that.
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Drink to mask that. an army vet with ptsd.
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An army vet with ptsd. that's when the darkness.
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That's when the darkness.
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>> came in drinking himself to
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>> came in drinking himself to death i was.
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Death i was.
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>> hung over.
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>> hung over.
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>> while working and then.
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>> while working and then. drank when i came home.
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Drank when i came home. gets a vision beyond the grave
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Gets a vision beyond the grave .
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. it was a nightmare.
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It was a nightmare. it wasn't heaven.
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It wasn't heaven. it was.
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It was. and what.
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And what.
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>> brought him back to the side
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>> brought him back to the side of life?
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Of life? lord, i'm still going to praise
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Lord, i'm still going to praise you.
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You. i'm still going to serve you i
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I'm still going to serve you i love you.
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Love you. on today's 700 club.
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On today's 700 club. well, welcome to the 700 club.
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Well, welcome to the 700 club. president trump said he's
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President trump said he's cautiously.
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Cautiously. optimistic the iranians will
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Optimistic the iranians will resume.
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Resume. negotiations.
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Negotiations. aimed at ending the war.
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Aimed at ending the war. he also said.
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He also said. if they don't agree.
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If they don't agree. the bombing starts.
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The bombing starts. israeli prime minister benjamin
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Israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu said his government
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Netanyahu said his government is in lockstep with the united
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Is in lockstep with the united states efforts in the region.
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States efforts in the region. cbn middle east correspondent
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Cbn middle east correspondent paul petite reports.
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Paul petite reports. we could learn as soon as today
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We could learn as soon as today whether iran.
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Whether iran.
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>> will.
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>> will. agree to come back to the.
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Agree to come back to the. negotiating table.
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Negotiating table. they want to make a deal.
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They want to make a deal. we've had.
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We've had. very good talks.
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Very good talks. over the last 24 hours that it
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Over the last 24 hours that it is very possible that we'll
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Is very possible that we'll make a deal.
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Make a deal. president trump told fox
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President trump told fox news that.
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News that.
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>> he's.
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>> he's. cautiously optimistic that u.s.
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Cautiously optimistic that u.s. and.
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And. iran could agree.
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Iran could agree. on a.
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On a.
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>> one page memorandum.
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>> one page memorandum. that calls.
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That calls. for 30 days of talks.
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For 30 days of talks. that includes.
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That includes.
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>> iran.
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>> iran. surrendering its enriched.
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Surrendering its enriched. uranium, the u.s. sanctions and
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Uranium, the u.s. sanctions and reopening the strait of hormuz
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Reopening the strait of hormuz .
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. he also issued a one week
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He also issued a one week ultimatum.
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Ultimatum. posting on air that if they
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Posting on air that if they don't agree, the bombing
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Don't agree, the bombing starts.
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Starts. we've had some good talks
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We've had some good talks before.
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Before.
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>> as.
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>> as. you know.
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You know. and all of a sudden the next
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And all of a sudden the next day they're.
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Day they're. like they forgot what happened
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Like they forgot what happened .
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. nbc.
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Nbc.
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>> news.
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>> news. reports that.
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Reports that.
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>> trump's sudden cancellation
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>> trump's sudden cancellation of the operation.
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Of the operation. escorting vessels through the.
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Escorting vessels through the.
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>> strait of hormuz came as a
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>> strait of hormuz came as a result of saudi arabia
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Result of saudi arabia suspending u.s. military access
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Suspending u.s. military access in their country.
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In their country. according to the report.
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According to the report. trump angered.
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Trump angered.
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>> and surprised some gulf
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>> and surprised some gulf allies when he announced to
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Allies when he announced to project.
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Project. freedom.
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Freedom.
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>> on.
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>> on. social media without advance
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Social media without advance notification.
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Notification. i don't think i mean because.
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I don't think i mean because.
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>> we maintain.
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>> we maintain. continuous contact with our.
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Continuous contact with our. friends in the united states.
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Friends in the united states. i speak.
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I speak.
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>> with president.
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>> with president. trump almost on a.
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Trump almost on a. daily basis.
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Daily basis. while the new israeli poll
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While the new israeli poll shows.
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Shows.
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>> most.
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>> most. citizens believe ending the war
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Citizens believe ending the war with.
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With. iran now.
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Iran now. contradicts their security
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Contradicts their security interests.
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Interests. israeli prime minister
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Israeli prime minister netanyahu says his country is
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Netanyahu says his country is in lockstep with u.s. efforts
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In lockstep with u.s. efforts in the region.
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In the region. netanyahu.
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Netanyahu. convened with a.
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Convened with a.
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>> security cabinet late
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>> security cabinet late wednesday announcing the first
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Wednesday announcing the first strike in beirut.
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Strike in beirut. in more than a month.
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In more than a month. the israeli defense forces
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The israeli defense forces reported the strike eliminated
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Reported the strike eliminated the commander of hezbollah's.
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The commander of hezbollah's. rod one.
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Rod one. force who it.
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Force who it. says was behind the ongoing
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Says was behind the ongoing attacks in.
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Attacks in. northern israel on.
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Northern israel on. clashing in government.
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Clashing in government. this is my instruction to.
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This is my instruction to.
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>> the idf and our security
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>> the idf and our security forces.
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Forces. israel is stronger.
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Israel is stronger. than ever.
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Than ever. iran and.
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Iran and.
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>> its proxies.
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>> its proxies.
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>> are.
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>> are. weaker than ever economically.
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Weaker than ever economically. the news of potential peace
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The news of potential peace talks resulted in sinking oil
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Talks resulted in sinking oil prices and a surging stock
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Prices and a surging stock market.
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Market. iran is.
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Iran is.
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>> also cutting its oil
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>> also cutting its oil production due to.
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Production due to.
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>> storage shortages.
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>> storage shortages. caused by the us blockade.
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Caused by the us blockade. and in iran.
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And in iran. more death sentences carried
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More death sentences carried out by the regime.
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Out by the regime. the jerusalem post.
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The jerusalem post.
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>> reports.
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>> reports. three prisoners executed over
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Three prisoners executed over the weekend after being forced
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The weekend after being forced to confess to crimes they
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To confess to crimes they didn't commit, including
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Didn't commit, including espionage for the zionist
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Espionage for the zionist regime and letters to a human
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Regime and letters to a human rights group.
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Rights group. the three telling stories of
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The three telling stories of physical and psychological
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Physical and psychological torture and one reporting
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Torture and one reporting threats against his wife if he
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Threats against his wife if he didn't confess.
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Didn't confess. none of their families were
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None of their families were notified of the executions,
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Notified of the executions, denying them a last visit as
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Denying them a last visit as mandated in.
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Mandated in. iranian law.
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Iranian law. paul petite cbn news.
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Paul petite cbn news. jerusalem.
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Jerusalem. while this government this.
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While this government this. regime continues.
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Regime continues. to torture and kill.
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To torture and kill. their own civilians.
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Their own civilians.
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>> all because.
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>> all because.
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>> they want to speak up and to
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>> they want to speak up and to say.
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Say. we don't.
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We don't. want this.
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Want this.
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>> theocracy anymore.
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>> theocracy anymore. we want a secular government.
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We want a secular government. we want the freedoms that other
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We want the freedoms that other nations.
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Nations. other people enjoy.
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Other people enjoy. it has been this way now for 47
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It has been this way now for 47 years.
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Years. just in the last ten years
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Just in the last ten years there have been five different
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There have been five different revolutions.
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Revolutions. i hope.
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I hope. i pray.
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I pray. that the iranian people.
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That the iranian people.
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>> can finally be free.
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>> can finally be free. in other news the round more on
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In other news the round more on the agenda.
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The agenda. secretary of state marco rubio
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Secretary of state marco rubio is meeting with pope leo today.
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Is meeting with pope leo today. gary.
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Gary.
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>> lane has.
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>> lane has. that story and more from our
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That story and more from our cbn news bureau in washington.
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Cbn news bureau in washington. gary gordon, the secretary of.
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Gary gordon, the secretary of. state.
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State.
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>> a practicing.
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>> a practicing. catholic seeking to mend fences
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Catholic seeking to mend fences with the vatican after a war of
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With the vatican after a war of words.
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Words. between the president and pope
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Between the president and pope leo.
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Leo. secretary rubio met.
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Secretary rubio met.
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>> with.
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>> with. the pontiff.
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The pontiff.
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>> in his private library.
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>> in his private library. leo, the first american pope.
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Leo, the first american pope. is critical of the war with
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Is critical of the war with iran making repeated calls for
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Iran making repeated calls for peace.
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Peace. the president accusing.
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The president accusing.
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>> the pope of not.
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>> the pope of not. understanding the dangers of a.
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Understanding the dangers of a. nuclear iran and putting
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Nuclear iran and putting catholics at risk.
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Catholics at risk. the pope says.
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The pope says.
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>> the church has always
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>> the church has always opposed.
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Opposed. nuclear weapons and he's.
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Nuclear weapons and he's.
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>> preaching.
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>> preaching. a biblical.
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A biblical. message of peace.
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Message of peace. the two also discussed
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The two also discussed humanitarian.
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Humanitarian. aid for cuba.
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Aid for cuba. and religious.
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And religious. freedom issues.
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Freedom issues. ted turner, the billionaire who
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Ted turner, the billionaire who changed american culture with
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Changed american culture with his.
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His. creation.
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Creation.
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>> of the.
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>> of the. 24 hour news channel, died
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24 hour news channel, died wednesday.
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Wednesday. he was 87.
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He was 87. turner founded cnn, the cable
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Turner founded cnn, the cable news network, in 1980.
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News network, in 1980. he expanded.
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He expanded.
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>> his.
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>> his. media empire with.
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Media empire with. three more networks tnt, turner
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Three more networks tnt, turner classic movies and the cartoon
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Classic movies and the cartoon network.
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Network. he also owned the atlanta
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He also owned the atlanta braves.
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Braves. which captured.
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Which captured.
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>> the.
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>> the. world.
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World. series in 1995.
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Series in 1995. he married three times,
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He married three times, including ten years with
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Including ten years with actress jane fonda.
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Actress jane fonda. in 2018.
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In 2018. turner announced he.
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Turner announced he.
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>> was.
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>> was. diagnosed with.
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Diagnosed with.
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>> lewy body dementia, a
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>> lewy body dementia, a progressive.
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Progressive. brain disorder.
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Brain disorder. he spent his final.
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He spent his final. years at his ranch in montana.
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Years at his ranch in montana. gordon, both turner and your
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Gordon, both turner and your dad were pioneers in cable tv
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Dad were pioneers in cable tv and i guess they met.
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And i guess they met.
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>> at.
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>> at. mccallie school.
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Mccallie school.
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>> at a.
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>> at a. reunion there.
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Reunion there. years ago in chattanooga,
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Years ago in chattanooga, tennessee.
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Tennessee. they did made it a reunion.
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They did made it a reunion. they.
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They.
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>> both went to mccallie.
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>> both went to mccallie.
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>> as.
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>> as. i did as well.
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I did as well. what a pioneer.
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What a pioneer. in.
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In.
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>> cable.
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>> cable. television to have.
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Television to have. the vision for.
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The vision for. for first day a.
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For first day a. super channel.
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Super channel. all based on tbs, a uhf channel
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All based on tbs, a uhf channel in.
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In. atlanta, georgia.
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Atlanta, georgia. but.
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But.
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>> he turned.
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>> he turned.
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>> that.
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>> that. into a.
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Into a. powerhouse and then from there
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Powerhouse and then from there to to launch.
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To to launch. cnn uh, the the world.
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Cnn uh, the the world. of cable.
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Of cable. television completely.
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Television completely. changed because of him and our
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Changed because of him and our our.
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Our. thoughts our prayers are.
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Thoughts our prayers are.
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>> with his family now.
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>> with his family now. well coming up religious
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Well coming up religious freedom under attack.
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Freedom under attack. human rights.
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Human rights. groups warn that the government
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Groups warn that the government could seize control of
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Could seize control of christian.
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Christian. schools.
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Schools.
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>> churches and orphanages.
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>> churches and orphanages. it's on the table.
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It's on the table.
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>> this one law passes.
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>> this one law passes. we'll tell you where this is
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We'll tell you where this is happening next in the news.
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Happening next in the news. and then.
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And then. later on.
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Later on. the.
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The. lazarus movement.
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Lazarus movement. a man with failing lungs and
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A man with failing lungs and kidneys wakes up from a coma
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Kidneys wakes up from a coma completely healed.
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Completely healed. what brought him back from.
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What brought him back from.
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>> the dead?
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>> the dead? that's ahead.
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That's ahead.
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>> when. i first.
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I first.
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>> walked.
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>> walked. onto the.
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Onto the.
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>> regent campus i.
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>> regent campus i.
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>> felt.
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>> felt. like the lord gave me.
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Like the lord gave me. a hug.
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A hug.
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>> a.
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>> a. bridge to the nations.
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Bridge to the nations. she just bring something to
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She just bring something to the.
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The.
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>> table.
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>> table. everywhere.
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Everywhere. that we need her.
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That we need her. a student.
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A student.
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>> who traveled.
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>> who traveled. halfway around the globe.
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Halfway around the globe. i.
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I.
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>> felt.
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>> felt. incredible shalom of the lord.
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Incredible shalom of the lord. and back.
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And back. i said what.
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I said what. i feel like being a.
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I feel like being a. christian leader.
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Christian leader. changing the world.
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Changing the world. pray without.
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Pray without. ceasing and.
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Ceasing and.
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>> make.
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>> make. an impact in this world.
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An impact in this world. friday on the 700 club.
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Friday on the 700 club. stay connected with.
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Stay connected with. cbn news.
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Cbn news. all day across.
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All day across. our platforms.
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Our platforms. well india's bjp government is.
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Well india's bjp government is. facing a growing backlash from.
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Facing a growing backlash from.
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>> the.
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>> the. christian community.
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Christian community. the.
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The. concern is over a proposed
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Concern is over a proposed change to a law that regulates
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Change to a law that regulates foreign.
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Foreign. funding for nonprofit
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Funding for nonprofit organizations.
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Organizations. george thomas explains why it's
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George thomas explains why it's led to.
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Led to. complaints of persecution.
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Complaints of persecution. on march 25th.
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On march 25th. lawmakers in new delhi
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Lawmakers in new delhi introduced.
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Introduced. amendments to.
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Amendments to.
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>> the.
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>> the. foreign contribution regulation
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Foreign contribution regulation act, or fcra changes that would
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Act, or fcra changes that would give the government.
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Give the government. sweeping new powers over
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Sweeping new powers over thousands of ngos including.
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Thousands of ngos including. churches and other christian
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Churches and other christian organizations.
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Organizations. stephen schneck is with the
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Stephen schneck is with the united.
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United.
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>> states commission on
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>> states commission on international.
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International. religious freedom.
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Religious freedom. this means things like.
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This means things like. orphanages.
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Orphanages. clinics, schools.
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Clinics, schools. churches uh can no longer be
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Churches uh can no longer be funded.
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Funded. under the proposal if an
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Under the proposal if an organization's license is
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Organization's license is suspended, canceled or not
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Suspended, canceled or not renewed.
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Renewed. authorities could take control
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Authorities could take control of its assets, manage.
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Of its assets, manage.
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>> them.
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>> them. or even sell them.
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Or even sell them. it seems completely unfair and
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It seems completely unfair and arbitrary.
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Arbitrary. and moreover.
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And moreover.
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>> this is clearly an effort.
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>> this is clearly an effort. to repress.
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To repress. minority religious groups in
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Minority religious groups in india at a time when we.
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India at a time when we. see rising hindu nationalism
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See rising hindu nationalism working uh in ways that uh,
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Working uh in ways that uh, persecute religious minorities
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Persecute religious minorities in the country.
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In the country. human rights groups including.
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Human rights groups including.
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>> amnesty international.
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>> amnesty international. say this builds on a law
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Say this builds on a law they've long criticized.
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They've long criticized.
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>> since.
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>> since. it came into force in 2010.
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It came into force in 2010. amnesty states the fcra has
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Amnesty states the fcra has been cynically amended and
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Been cynically amended and misused to harass, intimidate
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Misused to harass, intimidate and censor human rights
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And censor human rights defenders.
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Defenders. and ngos.
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And ngos. carrying out vital human rights
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Carrying out vital human rights work across india.
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Work across india. it is.
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It is.
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>> tabled now but every
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>> tabled now but every indication is that this.
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Indication is that this.
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>> is.
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>> is. likely to be.
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Likely to be. taken up again in the next
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Taken up again in the next session.
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Session. christian organizations are
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Christian organizations are warning they.
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Warning they. could be disproportionately
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Could be disproportionately targeted.
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Targeted. the death.
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The death.
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>> of jesus is there.
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>> of jesus is there. archbishop joseph d'souza is
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Archbishop joseph d'souza is with.
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With.
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>> the good.
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>> the good. shepherd church of india.
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Shepherd church of india. this is uh, a.
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This is uh, a. straightforward uh.
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Straightforward uh. look and uh.
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Look and uh. uh, test.
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Uh, test. of uh.
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Of uh.
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>> the christian.
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>> the christian. institutions and.
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Institutions and.
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>> their properties.
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>> their properties. uh, through.
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Uh, through. uh a.
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Uh a. legal amendment of.
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Legal amendment of.
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>> a bill as of march 2026.
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>> a bill as of march 2026. nearly 22,000 organizations had
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Nearly 22,000 organizations had lost their fcr licenses.
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Lost their fcr licenses. amnesty says many of those
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Amnesty says many of those groups were involved in
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Groups were involved in religious freedom, minority
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Religious freedom, minority rights and freedom of
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Rights and freedom of expression.
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Expression. these are.
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These are. organizations that deal with
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Organizations that deal with the poorest.
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The poorest.
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>> of the.
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>> of the. poor, the most vulnerable
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Poor, the most vulnerable populations uh, within.
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Populations uh, within. india today.
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India today. the.
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The.
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>> indian government has
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>> indian government has defended fcra rules in the past
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Defended fcra rules in the past saying they are necessary for
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Saying they are necessary for transparency and national
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Transparency and national security.
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Security. george thomas cbn news.
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George thomas cbn news. well our dear friend.
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Well our dear friend. archbishop joseph d'souza joins
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Archbishop joseph d'souza joins us now from hyderabad india.
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Us now from hyderabad india. uh welcome to the show.
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Uh welcome to the show. you've said this law could
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You've said this law could amount to a.
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Amount to a. loss.
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Loss.
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>> of.
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>> of. christian institution.
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Christian institution. can you walk us through what it
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Can you walk us through what it actually looks like on the
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Actually looks like on the ground?
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Ground? yeah.
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Yeah.
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>> thank you guardian for
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>> thank you guardian for having.
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Having.
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>> me.
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>> me.
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>> again.
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>> again. on the.
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On the. 700 club.
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700 club. this.
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This.
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>> uh.
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>> uh. particular amendment.
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Particular amendment. uh which.
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Uh which. uh.
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Uh.
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>> has been deferred.
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>> has been deferred. uh, they.
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Uh, they.
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>> were.
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>> were.
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>> going.
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>> going. to pass it.
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To pass it.
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>> but there was such a
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>> but there was such a backlash.
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Backlash. from the.
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From the.
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>> indian community.
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>> indian community. and um, that they.
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And um, that they.
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>> held it.
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>> held it. but and it's.
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But and it's. similar to what uh, was done.
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Similar to what uh, was done. uh, in germany.
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Uh, in germany. uh.
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Uh.
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>> most.
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>> most.
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>> of us who.
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>> of us who. know the.
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Know the.
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>> history.
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>> history. of how the.
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Of how the. gestapo uh, went after.
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Gestapo uh, went after. the jews they created.
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The jews they created. the office.
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The office.
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>> of.
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>> of.
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>> jewish affairs.
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>> jewish affairs. what.
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What.
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>> is being done now?
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>> is being done now? and i'm not.
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And i'm not. exaggerating it.
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Exaggerating it.
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>> uh, the c.r.a..
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>> uh, the c.r.a.. which was supposed to.
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Which was supposed to.
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>> be the foreign.
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>> be the foreign. contribution regulation act.
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Contribution regulation act. is being turned into the
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Is being turned into the foreign.
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Foreign. contribution.
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Contribution.
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>> control act.
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>> control act. but i am saying that this is
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But i am saying that this is india's version of the.
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India's version of the. office of christian.
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Office of christian. affairs because for 50 years.
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Affairs because for 50 years. the indian christians.
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The indian christians. in.
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In. partnership with global
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Partnership with global christians have been building
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Christians have been building um.
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Um. institutions churches.
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Institutions churches. hospitals, orphanages, you name
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Hospitals, orphanages, you name it.
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It. and uh serving india's poor and
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And uh serving india's poor and uh and uh doing it
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Uh and uh doing it unconditionally and without and
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Unconditionally and without and expecting anything in return.
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Expecting anything in return. what's very important uh,
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What's very important uh, gordon uh.
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Gordon uh. for the cbn audience to know is
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For the cbn audience to know is this.
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This.
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>> is.
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>> is.
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>> not.
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>> not. just an indian problem.
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Just an indian problem. it is a.
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It is a. problem for the west the.
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Problem for the west the. global the.
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Global the. the christian.
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The christian. west or the christian world
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West or the christian world because the moneys that have
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Because the moneys that have come to india in the.
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Come to india in the. last 50 years.
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Last 50 years. have come from christians, not
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Have come from christians, not from the government or the
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From the government or the christians in america, england
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Christians in america, england everywhere and in one one sweep
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Everywhere and in one one sweep .
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. of this law.
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Of this law. suddenly if.
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Suddenly if.
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>> you're working in india and.
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>> you're working in india and. they did not renew your license
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They did not renew your license the they are creating a
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The they are creating a designated what they call a
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Designated what they call a designated authority and i'm
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Designated authority and i'm calling it the.
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Calling it the. office of.
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Office of. christian events because the
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Christian events because the vast majority of uh uh groups
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Vast majority of uh uh groups that did not get their licenses
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That did not get their licenses renewed are christian.
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Renewed are christian. and so this is an attempt.
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And so this is an attempt. uh, to use a weaponized the law
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Uh, to use a weaponized the law and then give themselves the
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And then give themselves the power to take over the
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Power to take over the institutions and the churches.
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Institutions and the churches. now they are saying they're.
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Now they are saying they're. doing it for transparency.
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Doing it for transparency. we as.
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We as.
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>> christians i.
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>> christians i. say we are the most transparent
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Say we are the most transparent group in terms of how we run
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Group in terms of how we run our institutions.
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Our institutions. we file our returns everything
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We file our returns everything it's known to the public etc..
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It's known to the public etc.. the the the group that is not
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The the the group that is not transparent is that.
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Transparent is that. the authority itself when it
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The authority itself when it cancels it does not renew.
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Cancels it does not renew. they never give us a clear cut.
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They never give us a clear cut. we cannot fight it.
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We cannot fight it. we cannot defend it.
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We cannot defend it. all that they will say is uh,
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All that they will say is uh, negative uh, intelligence
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Negative uh, intelligence inputs.
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Inputs. that's what they did with
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That's what they did with mother teresa's group uh, five
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Mother teresa's group uh, five years ago.
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Years ago. uh, because of some negative
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Uh, because of some negative intelligence group, they took
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Intelligence group, they took away her license and all of our
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Away her license and all of our institutions were suddenly
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Institutions were suddenly without their crt and it would
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Without their crt and it would have killed it.
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Have killed it. there was such a global outcry
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There was such a global outcry about this that they descended
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About this that they descended and then we found out later on
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And then we found out later on it was just two groups
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It was just two groups somewhere in north india which
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Somewhere in north india which had a problem.
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Had a problem. so all you need is one little
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So all you need is one little school we run we run school 100
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School we run we run school 100 of them.
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Of them. uh, one school has a problem
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Uh, one school has a problem then they don't renew it and
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Then they don't renew it and everything is gone and now they
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Everything is gone and now they are creating this thing that is
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Are creating this thing that is the the catholic church has
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The the catholic church has said this is unconstitutional.
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Said this is unconstitutional. this is.
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This is. against uh uh, every sense of.
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Against uh uh, every sense of. decency and.
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Decency and. uh there's no recourse of how
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Uh there's no recourse of how to deal with it.
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To deal with it. and then we have challenge it
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And then we have challenge it in the past.
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In the past. we never get an answer back.
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We never get an answer back. we ourselves have been victims
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We ourselves have been victims of it and we have written to
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Of it and we have written to legal channels for review and
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Legal channels for review and all.
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All. we never get a reply and then
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We never get a reply and then adequate answer.
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Adequate answer. so this this is gone uh very
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So this this is gone uh very serious and so at stake is not
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Serious and so at stake is not just what the indian christians
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Just what the indian christians and their uh contribution has
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And their uh contribution has built, but at stake is what the
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Built, but at stake is what the global community has given in
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Global community has given in good faith believing that there
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Good faith believing that there is freedom of religion in
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Is freedom of religion in india, that international laws
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India, that international laws will be kept in mind and nobody
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Will be kept in mind and nobody is going to come and take um
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Is going to come and take um somebody from the us who has
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Somebody from the us who has been donating for uh the
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Been donating for uh the sponsorship of a child.
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Sponsorship of a child. that whole institution is.
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That whole institution is.
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>> going.
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>> going. to be taken away.
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To be taken away. this money doesn't belong to
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This money doesn't belong to any government.
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Any government. it belongs to the christian
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It belongs to the christian public here and around the
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Public here and around the world.
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World. um, in addition to mother
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Um, in addition to mother teresa, uh, two major
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Teresa, uh, two major organizations.
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Organizations.
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>> i mean.
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>> i mean. world vision.
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World vision. compassionate.
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Compassionate.
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>> uh, international both were,
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>> uh, international both were, uh.
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Uh. barred from further work.
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Barred from further work. in india.
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In india. as i.
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As i. understand it, if.
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Understand it, if. you lose your fcra.
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You lose your fcra. ,uh.
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,uh.
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>> status that the same.
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>> status that the same. agency can then come.
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Agency can then come. in and even if you just get uh,
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In and even if you just get uh, ?10 from.
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?10 from.
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>> a foreign government so
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>> a foreign government so that's you know, $0.10.
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That's you know, $0.10. if you just get that.
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If you just get that. amount and contribution from a
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Amount and contribution from a foreign organization or
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Foreign organization or foreign.
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Foreign. christian.
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Christian.
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>>.
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>>. if.
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If. you receive that money.
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You receive that money. and you.
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And you.
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>> then lose your fcra that
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>> then lose your fcra that this agency.
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This agency. can come.
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Can come.
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>> in and take the.
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>> in and take the. entire uh assets.
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Entire uh assets. of the charity.
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Of the charity.
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>> that received the donation
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>> that received the donation and sell it.
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And sell it. is that correct?
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Is that correct? absolutely correct.
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Absolutely correct. and most institutions uh, in
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And most institutions uh, in india, uh a combination of
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India, uh a combination of local funds and foreign funds
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Local funds and foreign funds and all that.
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And all that. do you need, uh, here for them
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Do you need, uh, here for them to use this lawyers or you
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To use this lawyers or you whether or not they just an
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Whether or not they just an entity you received $100 or
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Entity you received $100 or $5000.
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$5000. you have built such a massive
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You have built such a massive thing.
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Thing. now your website is gone.
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Now your website is gone. your whole institution, uh, can
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Your whole institution, uh, can be taken over, will be taken
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Be taken over, will be taken over by us and that's it.
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Over by us and that's it. and so, uh i mean, how do you
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And so, uh i mean, how do you explain the sense in this so
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Explain the sense in this so happens.
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Happens. um, 50 years i'm using the
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Um, 50 years i'm using the words of uh, the the timeline
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Words of uh, the the timeline of 50 years because it's about
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Of 50 years because it's about 50 years since the facility was
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50 years since the facility was created.
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Created. nobody ever imagined that this
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Nobody ever imagined that this is how it would be weaponized
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Is how it would be weaponized against the christians.
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Against the christians. i mean, there are other
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I mean, there are other minorities affected and i'm
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Minorities affected and i'm speaking here for the
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Speaking here for the christians and in 50 years, you
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Christians and in 50 years, you know, we we have through our
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Know, we we have through our partners worldwide and india
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Partners worldwide and india created such a massive network
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Created such a massive network of philanthropic, social and
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Of philanthropic, social and spiritual work and in one shot
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Spiritual work and in one shot they want to it.
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They want to it. and if this law uh goes ahead
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And if this law uh goes ahead it will, uh, all of the
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It will, uh, all of the christian groups in india.
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Christian groups in india. and now this has resulted in
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And now this has resulted in india.
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India. the news is that all of us
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The news is that all of us regardless of our dinner
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Regardless of our dinner combination, uh, are coming
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Combination, uh, are coming together to figure out how this
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Together to figure out how this is going to be.
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Is going to be. but, um, this is going to be,
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But, um, this is going to be, uh, worked out.
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Uh, worked out. how do we defend this, uh, this
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How do we defend this, uh, this stuff?
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Stuff? but i think americans and
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But i think americans and britishers and others need to
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Britishers and others need to know that it is just not the
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Know that it is just not the indian money.
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Indian money. it's their money.
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It's their money. it's a donor money.
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It's a donor money. there are international
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There are international implications for this.
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Implications for this. you can't do this as a
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You can't do this as a democracy.
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Democracy. allow for all of this stuff to
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Allow for all of this stuff to come in and then to a law that
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Come in and then to a law that is targeting christians.
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Is targeting christians. you take take all of their
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You take take all of their assets away and a government
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Assets away and a government authority a majority and
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Authority a majority and majority government authority
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Majority government authority takes away lot on situations
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Takes away lot on situations that tries to run our
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That tries to run our organizations uh, set up
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Organizations uh, set up properties.
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Properties. so this this is what i have
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So this this is what i have called a legalized loot of what
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Called a legalized loot of what uh, the church has built the
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Uh, the church has built the global church and the indian
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Global church and the indian church has built in india over
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Church has built in india over uh 50 years.
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Uh 50 years. the the the sad thing is you
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The the the sad thing is you just talked about compassion
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Just talked about compassion and world vision and i just
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And world vision and i just give the example of compassion
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Give the example of compassion with one stroke they remove
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With one stroke they remove their fci ray etc. and the
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Their fci ray etc. and the diamond vendettas uh it it was
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Diamond vendettas uh it it was removed for whatever reasons.
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Removed for whatever reasons. there were 140,000 children
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There were 140,000 children that they were sponsoring in
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That they were sponsoring in india caring for feeding and
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India caring for feeding and providing it and uh the whole
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Providing it and uh the whole allegation was oh they are
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Allegation was oh they are doing conversions.
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Doing conversions. come on.
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Come on. oh compassion was in india for
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Oh compassion was in india for 50 years.
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50 years. there are the converts.
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There are the converts. there are the false and
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There are the false and fraudulent conversions that are
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Fraudulent conversions that are going on.
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Going on. it's a great uh um you know,
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It's a great uh um you know, hammer to to beat the christian
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Hammer to to beat the christian community in their legitimate
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Community in their legitimate christian witness.
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Christian witness. now what happened to those
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Now what happened to those hundred and 40,000 children?
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Hundred and 40,000 children? did the government provide an
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Did the government provide an alternate care?
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Alternate care? nothing.
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Nothing. they went back to their whole
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They went back to their whole lives.
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Lives. no.
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No. no education, no nothing.
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No education, no nothing. now look at that.
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Now look at that. if this bill gets passed,
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If this bill gets passed, amendment gets passed.
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Amendment gets passed. my my guesstimate and it is on
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My my guesstimate and it is on the conservative side seven
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The conservative side seven between 75 to 100 million
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Between 75 to 100 million indians who are being helped
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Indians who are being helped and catered to in one way or
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And catered to in one way or another by the whole christian
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Another by the whole christian community of india will be
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Community of india will be affected.
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Affected. and that is the tragedy of
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And that is the tragedy of this.
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This. uh, what are you hoping the.
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Uh, what are you hoping the. international community uh.
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International community uh. governments the.
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Governments the.
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>> us.
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>> us.
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>> government.
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>> government.
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>> in.
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>> in. particular uh will do in
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Particular uh will do in response.
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Response.
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>> to.
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>> to. this the bill has been tabled.
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This the bill has been tabled. it will come.
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It will come. back uh.
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Back uh. again in july.
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Again in july. so what.
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So what.
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>> are you hoping for?
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>> are you hoping for? you know, one thing that's
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You know, one thing that's that's been going to my mind
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That's been going to my mind and i'm thinking about this uh,
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And i'm thinking about this uh, quite a lot and i've just
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Quite a lot and i've just written, uh, something in the
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Written, uh, something in the christian post there that there
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Christian post there that there must be a dialog now about in
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Must be a dialog now about in democracies about reciprocal
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Democracies about reciprocal religious freedom.
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Religious freedom. uh, for example, uh, you know,
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Uh, for example, uh, you know, american pastors, teachers,
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American pastors, teachers, visitors, normal church members
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Visitors, normal church members etc. when they want to visit
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Etc. when they want to visit india.
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India. they don't get visas just
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They don't get visas just because they're christian.
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Because they're christian. this is not right.
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This is not right. at the same time, using the
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At the same time, using the freedoms that america has and
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Freedoms that america has and the west has hundreds and
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The west has hundreds and hundreds of hindu artisans
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Hundreds of hindu artisans missionaries are all over the
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Missionaries are all over the place.
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Place. and so they want the freedoms
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And so they want the freedoms that the christian countries
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That the christian countries give, but they want to give
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Give, but they want to give freedoms to the christian in
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Freedoms to the christian in their own nation.
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Their own nation. and so somewhere a conversation
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And so somewhere a conversation has to start.
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Has to start. uh, and a high priority
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Uh, and a high priority conversation in terms of
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Conversation in terms of religious freedom.
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Religious freedom. and i have to say this yet i i
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And i have to say this yet i i must i've been a long time
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Must i've been a long time proponent and a supporter of a
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Proponent and a supporter of a close india u.s. alliance and i
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Close india u.s. alliance and i believe india and the us are
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Believe india and the us are closer than ever before and i
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Closer than ever before and i give the credit definitely give
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Give the credit definitely give the credit to the modi
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The credit to the modi government for for bringing
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Government for for bringing india and america closer
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India and america closer together.
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Together. but even as india and america
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But even as india and america come closer together.
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Come closer together. isn't it important also that we
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Isn't it important also that we come together and agree on how
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Come together and agree on how religious freedom is meant in
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Religious freedom is meant in in both sides of the pot?
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In both sides of the pot? well i couldn't agree more and
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Well i couldn't agree more and i look forward to a much
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I look forward to a much closer.
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Closer. relationship between the united
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Relationship between the united states and the.
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States and the. government of india.
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Government of india. but they need to recognize.
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But they need to recognize.
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>> this.
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>> this. would.
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Would.
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>> absolutely.
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>> absolutely. damage it.
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Damage it. it's obvious that it's
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It's obvious that it's religiously.
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Religiously. motivated and religiously
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Motivated and religiously targeted.
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Targeted. um, and to.
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Um, and to.
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>> have the concept.
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>> have the concept.
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>> that you could.
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>> that you could.
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>> come.
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>> come. in and seize all.
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In and seize all.
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>> the assets of.
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>> the assets of.
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>> a christian community, a
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>> a christian community, a christian organization just.
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Christian organization just. because they receive a small
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Because they receive a small amount of foreign contributions
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Amount of foreign contributions .
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. it makes no.
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It makes no. sense to me.
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Sense to me. but but let's stand for it.
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But but let's stand for it. uh, i'll be encouraging the
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Uh, i'll be encouraging the audience to please get in touch
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Audience to please get in touch with your senators, um, your
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With your senators, um, your members of congress.
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Members of congress. anyone who is.
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Anyone who is.
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>> on any of.
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>> on any of. the foreign.
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The foreign. relations committees,
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Relations committees, intelligence committees and
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Intelligence committees and then.
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Then. also let's get in.
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Also let's get in. touch with the state department
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Touch with the state department .
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. let's get organized here to say
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Let's get organized here to say we need our voice heard.
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We need our voice heard. this cannot pass.
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This cannot pass. uh and this cannot.
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Uh and this cannot. be if if.
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Be if if. india wants normal.
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India wants normal. relationships with.
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Relationships with.
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>> the united states a trading
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>> the united states a trading partner, uh, on a global stage.
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Partner, uh, on a global stage. uh, this.
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Uh, this. reciprocal.
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Reciprocal.
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>> uh, concept of reciprocal
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>> uh, concept of reciprocal religious freedom it's high
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Religious freedom it's high time.
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Time. for it.
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For it. well, i'm just a god.
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Well, i'm just a god. i just need a i just need a
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I just need a i just need a minute.
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Minute. so, uh, before you went wendy's
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So, uh, before you went wendy's up.
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Up. uh, i have to say here that
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Uh, i have to say here that this is not about all hindus.
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This is not about all hindus. majority hindus in india are
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Majority hindus in india are our friends that work with us
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Our friends that work with us and they love us and they like
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And they love us and they like us.
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Us. and indian christians are not
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And indian christians are not less patriotic than anything
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Less patriotic than anything else.
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Else. so even an interview like this
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So even an interview like this will be you know, but some will
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Will be you know, but some will take it as an international
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Take it as an international activity is not an anti
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Activity is not an anti national an activity it's an
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National an activity it's an activity for the sake of india.
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Activity for the sake of india. amen.
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Amen.
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>> i agree.
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>> i agree. well archbishop d'souza thanks.
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Well archbishop d'souza thanks.
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>> for joining with us.
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>> for joining with us. uh and let me just add
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Uh and let me just add something the un.
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Something the un. charter says.
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Charter says. there's freedom of.
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There's freedom of. conscience there's freedom of
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Conscience there's freedom of religion.
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Religion. uh.
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Uh.
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>>.
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>>. that.
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That. was the whole.
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Was the whole. platform for this.
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Platform for this. international community.
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International community. uh.
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Uh. and this.
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And this. kind of.
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Kind of. activity.
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Activity.
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>> is.
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>> is. absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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>> against that.
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>> against that. uh, i want.
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Uh, i want. self-determination for india.
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Self-determination for india. uh, i.
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Uh, i.
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>> don't.
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>> don't. want to interfere with their.
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Want to interfere with their. local.
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Local.
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>> uh, rules and.
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>> uh, rules and. regulations, but this
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Regulations, but this transcends their borders and
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Transcends their borders and it.
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It. absolutely affects.
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Absolutely affects.
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>> the people of india.
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>> the people of india. you heard it 75.
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You heard it 75.
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>> to 100.
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>> to 100. million people.
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Million people. will be impacted.
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Will be impacted. by this.
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By this. and.
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And.
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>> where.
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>> where. would they go for.
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Would they go for. aid?
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Aid?
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>> for comfort?
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>> for comfort? uh, this.
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Uh, this.
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>> is the impact.
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>> is the impact. the international christian
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The international christian community has had on.
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Community has had on. india and and we.
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India and and we.
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>> need.
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>> need.
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>> to.
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>> to. maintain that.
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Maintain that. and say.
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And say. you know, no, this.
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You know, no, this.
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>> this bill is unjust.
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>> this bill is unjust. it's a confiscation.
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It's a confiscation. uh, i don't see.
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Uh, i don't see. how it ever.
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How it ever. leads to a better india.
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Leads to a better india. teri well coming up, a vision
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Teri well coming up, a vision of and the fiery death that
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Of and the fiery death that was going to take him there.
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Was going to take him there. one alcoholics.
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One alcoholics. terrifying wake.
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Terrifying wake.
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>> up.
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>> up. call that's ahead on today's
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Call that's ahead on today's program and then.
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Program and then. later.
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Later. on from the congo.
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On from the congo. to kentucky.
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To kentucky. to the nba's utah jazz.
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To the nba's utah jazz. ask her.
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Ask her. to she takes us to the promised
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To she takes us to the promised land.
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Land. on today's.
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On today's.
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Amazing. to learn more.
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To learn more. call today.
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Call today.
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>> or.
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>> or. go to.
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Go to. gentle cure.com.
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Gentle cure.com. carlos was in fight mode 24
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Carlos was in fight mode 24 over seven.
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Over seven. even long.
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Even long. after his discharge from the
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After his discharge from the army.
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Army. he turned to the bottle to cope
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He turned to the bottle to cope with his constant fear of death
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With his constant fear of death even as that bottle was putting
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Even as that bottle was putting him in an early grave.
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Him in an early grave. i was plagued by.
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I was plagued by. anxiety panic attacks.
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Anxiety panic attacks. the enemy was in my ear.
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The enemy was in my ear. always telling me that you're
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Always telling me that you're going to die, you're going to
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Going to die, you're going to die, you're going to die.
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Die, you're going to die. so that's why i always drink to
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So that's why i always drink to mask that.
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Mask that. carlos figueroa, an acclaimed
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Carlos figueroa, an acclaimed bodybuilder, began sharing the
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Bodybuilder, began sharing the gospel through feats of
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Gospel through feats of strength shortly after becoming
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Strength shortly after becoming a christian in 2006.
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A christian in 2006. he loved ministry work but at
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He loved ministry work but at the same time he was struggling
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The same time he was struggling to provide for his family so he
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To provide for his family so he decided to enlist in the army.
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Decided to enlist in the army. i've.
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I've.
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>> always.
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>> always. wanted to be in the military
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Wanted to be in the military ever since i was 18 and so 2009
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Ever since i was 18 and so 2009 i saw a chinook helicopter in
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I saw a chinook helicopter in oceanside or by the beach and i
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Oceanside or by the beach and i said, you know, i think it's
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Said, you know, i think it's time for me to take care of my
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Time for me to take care of my family and.
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Family and. serve my country.
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Serve my country. he committed himself fully to
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He committed himself fully to the army working hard to climb
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The army working hard to climb the ranks.
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The ranks. then in 2011 he was deployed to
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Then in 2011 he was deployed to afghanistan a place where his
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Afghanistan a place where his mind and faith.
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Mind and faith. would be tested.
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Would be tested. we were.
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We were.
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>> in.
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>> in. fight mode 24/7.
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Fight mode 24/7. it's hard.
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It's hard. it's hard on the brain.
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It's hard on the brain. i mean, you're away from your
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I mean, you're away from your family.
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Family. there's indirect fire.
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There's indirect fire. there's stuff like that
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There's stuff like that happening.
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Happening. um, there's also a constant,
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Um, there's also a constant, um, requirement of getting your
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Um, requirement of getting your job done no matter what.
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Job done no matter what. yeah.
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Yeah.
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>> at some point god was
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>> at some point god was replaced by the military and he
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Replaced by the military and he i put him on the back burner.
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I put him on the back burner. i didn't know how to handle it.
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I didn't know how to handle it. after his year of deployment,
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After his year of deployment, carlos returned to the u.s. and
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Carlos returned to the u.s. and was stationed at a new base
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Was stationed at a new base with a new unit away from the
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With a new unit away from the brothers in arms he'd fought
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Brothers in arms he'd fought alongside in afghanistan and
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Alongside in afghanistan and struggling from ptsd.
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Struggling from ptsd. he turned to alcohol to cope.
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He turned to alcohol to cope. it was just so depressing being
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It was just so depressing being there.
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There. i just started drinking by
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I just started drinking by myself and remembering the
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Myself and remembering the times when my buddies and my
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Times when my buddies and my friends and.
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Friends and. led.
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Led.
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>> into a.
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>> into a. dui in 2013.
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Dui in 2013. that's when the darkness came
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That's when the darkness came in.
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In. he was discharged from the
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He was discharged from the army.
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Army. shamed by the experience,
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Shamed by the experience, carlos began drinking more
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Carlos began drinking more heavily.
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Heavily. through it all his wife
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Through it all his wife continued to pray for him to
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Continued to pray for him to quit even as the family was
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Quit even as the family was struggling with his behavior.
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Struggling with his behavior. the army was everything for me.
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The army was everything for me. i didn't want to be helped.
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I didn't want to be helped. i don't want to be touched.
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I don't want to be touched. i just wanted to be left alone.
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I just wanted to be left alone. it led me to just.
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It led me to just. drown all that in alcohol.
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Drown all that in alcohol. i would get to the point to
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I would get to the point to where i would drink so much
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Where i would drink so much that i would forget to go pick
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That i would forget to go pick up my daughter.
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Up my daughter. i was hung over while working
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I was hung over while working and then drank when i came home
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And then drank when i came home .
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. and so i became a functional
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And so i became a functional alcoholic.
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Alcoholic. the fear was.
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The fear was. just of always dying.
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Just of always dying. it was a constant, uh, merry go
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It was a constant, uh, merry go round for me.
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Round for me. you know, drinking.
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You know, drinking. fear of dying.
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Fear of dying. drinking again?
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Drinking again? i definitely.
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I definitely. didn't feel like i was good
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Didn't feel like i was good enough for jesus.
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Enough for jesus. by 2021, 38 year old carlos had
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By 2021, 38 year old carlos had gained 140 pounds and his liver
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Gained 140 pounds and his liver was nearly destroyed.
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Was nearly destroyed. doctors told him if he kept
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Doctors told him if he kept drinking he wouldn't make it
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Drinking he wouldn't make it past 40 knowing he needed a
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Past 40 knowing he needed a change but failing to on his
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Change but failing to on his own he finally cried out to
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Own he finally cried out to god.
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God. i said lord, i'll do whatever
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I said lord, i'll do whatever it takes if you have to put me
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It takes if you have to put me in the hospital, if you have to
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In the hospital, if you have to put it to my mouth so i can
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Put it to my mouth so i can stop drinking lose weight.
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Stop drinking lose weight. that's the exact prayer i
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That's the exact prayer i prayed.
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Prayed. care for what you pray for.
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Care for what you pray for. carlos caught covid 19 and was
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Carlos caught covid 19 and was admitted to the hospital after
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Admitted to the hospital after being told he'd have to be
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Being told he'd have to be intubated.
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Intubated. he and his wife prayed for his
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He and his wife prayed for his life to be spared while in a
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Life to be spared while in a medically induced coma.
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Medically induced coma. carlos says god showed him
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Carlos says god showed him something.
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Something. the lord.
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The lord. took me into.
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Took me into. it wasn't heaven.
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It wasn't heaven. it was.
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It was. he showed me i'd end up dying
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He showed me i'd end up dying in a fiery.
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In a fiery. truck crash from alcoholism.
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Truck crash from alcoholism. if i continue to drink.
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If i continue to drink. the whole family would be
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The whole family would be broken.
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Broken. it was.
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It was. it was a nightmare.
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It was a nightmare. and then i woke up.
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And then i woke up. you know, i realize i've been.
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You know, i realize i've been. and you made it.
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And you made it. for three.
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For three.
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>> weeks and i almost died,
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>> weeks and i almost died, said lord.
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Said lord. no matter what happens, i'm
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No matter what happens, i'm still going to praise you and
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Still going to praise you and i'm still going to serve you i
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I'm still going to serve you i love you.
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Love you. i started feeling this warm
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I started feeling this warm feeling in my body when i
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Feeling in my body when i started feeling healing.
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Started feeling healing. i started feeling just.
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I started feeling just. like it's.
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Like it's.
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>> time to go.
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>> time to go. despite having just come out of
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Despite having just come out of a coma, carlos was up and
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A coma, carlos was up and walking within a day.
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Walking within a day. he was told his rehab would
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He was told his rehab would take months.
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Take months. he was released.
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He was released. within a week.
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Within a week. i was completely healed.
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I was completely healed. from the lungs to the kidneys
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From the lungs to the kidneys to the liver.
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To the liver. him healing me.
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Him healing me. him bringing me back from the
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Him bringing me back from the dead was like a lazarus moment.
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Dead was like a lazarus moment. i felt unworthy.
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I felt unworthy.
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>> of it.
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>> of it. i made a promise to myself that
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I made a promise to myself that i would never touch alcohol
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I would never touch alcohol ever again.
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Ever again. the lord.
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The lord. knew this type of event needed
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Knew this type of event needed to happen for me to.
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To happen for me to. just stop cold turkey.
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Just stop cold turkey. i didn't do a 12 step.
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I didn't do a 12 step. i did it one step.
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I did it one step. you know the lord heal me
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You know the lord heal me completely.
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Completely. i need to work my tail off to
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I need to work my tail off to become the man that he wants me
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Become the man that he wants me to be.
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To be. that the enemy had stalled for
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That the enemy had stalled for eight years.
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Eight years. carlo started reading the bible
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Carlo started reading the bible and praying daily.
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And praying daily. growing in his relationship
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Growing in his relationship with god, he reconciled with
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With god, he reconciled with his family and became more
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His family and became more present in their lives through
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Present in their lives through proper diet and exercise he
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Proper diet and exercise he regained his strength and
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Regained his strength and opened a nutrition store.
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Opened a nutrition store. there he shares his testimony
00:30:39.511 --> 00:30:41.212
There he shares his testimony with everyone who will listen
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With everyone who will listen about how god completely healed
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About how god completely healed and transformed his life.
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And transformed his life. the gratefulness i have for the
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The gratefulness i have for the lord in my life right now is
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Lord in my life right now is unexplainable.
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Unexplainable. all glory to him.
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All glory to him. for me surviving this for
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For me surviving this for giving me the second chance.
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Giving me the second chance. power of.
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Power of.
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>> prayer.
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>> prayer. is 100% and my belief system um
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Is 100% and my belief system um .
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. i've seen it.
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I've seen it. you're looking at it in front
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You're looking at it in front of you.
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Of you. death doesn't bother me now.
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Death doesn't bother me now. do i saw ptsd?
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Do i saw ptsd? yes, but do i mask with
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Yes, but do i mask with alcohol?
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Alcohol? no.
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No. jesus helps me with it.
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Jesus helps me with it. he guides me in my path and
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He guides me in my path and everything that i need to do.
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Everything that i need to do. and it makes it.
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And it makes it.
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>> easier.
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>> easier. because we just.
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Because we just. rely on him.
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Rely on him. we just give it all to him.
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We just give it all to him. we completely.
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We completely.
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>> rely on him now and that's
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>> rely on him now and that's the way we live our lives.
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The way we live our lives. obedience and reliance on him.
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Obedience and reliance on him. i know you've probably seen
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I know you've probably seen some of those performances that
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Some of those performances that christian men who have extreme
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Christian men who have extreme strength do and then they talk
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Strength do and then they talk about their commitment to
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About their commitment to jesus.
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Jesus. you know, our strength comes
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You know, our strength comes from the lord.
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From the lord. i know there are things that
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I know there are things that can be done physically but
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Can be done physically but sometimes, you know, we get in
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Sometimes, you know, we get in a mode where we think i got
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A mode where we think i got this.
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This. you know, i i can handle this,
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You know, i i can handle this, i can manage it.
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I can manage it. i think.
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I think. certainly women experience it
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Certainly women experience it but men more than women there's
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But men more than women there's kind of this quiet expectation
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Kind of this quiet expectation that somehow you need to just
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That somehow you need to just kind of.
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Kind of. pull yourself together.
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Pull yourself together.
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>> and get it together.
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>> and get it together. and yet things happen in life.
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And yet things happen in life. in carlos's scenario, of course
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In carlos's scenario, of course it was the extreme scenario of.
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It was the extreme scenario of.
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>> being.
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>> being. in afghanistan and military
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In afghanistan and military situations where bullets were
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Situations where bullets were flying 24 over seven and you
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Flying 24 over seven and you didn't know whether you were
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Didn't know whether you were going to make it through the
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Going to make it through the day.
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Day. i know other.
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I know other. people who.
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People who. have ptsd from.
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Have ptsd from. very different reasons.
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Very different reasons. things get inside of our heads,
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Things get inside of our heads, inside of our hearts that cause
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Inside of our hearts that cause us to feel vulnerable all the
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Us to feel vulnerable all the time.
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Time. like we can't ever get on top
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Like we can't ever get on top of the mountain.
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Of the mountain. we can never we can never
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We can never we can never exhale.
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Exhale. we can never relax.
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We can never relax. we can't ever.
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We can't ever. be still and.
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Be still and. know that god is god because
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Know that god is god because everything inside of us is just
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Everything inside of us is just roiling around all the time.
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Roiling around all the time. jesus said that in quiet and
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Jesus said that in quiet and confidence we would find our
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Confidence we would find our strength and that quiet and
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Strength and that quiet and confidence is not in ourselves.
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Confidence is not in ourselves. it's a time to reflect and
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It's a time to reflect and understand who he is in us.
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Understand who he is in us. for us he goes out before us.
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For us he goes out before us. he fights the battle for us.
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He fights the battle for us. he says you know lots of times
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He says you know lots of times we're in that place where.
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We're in that place where.
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>> we've.
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>> we've. been all big and bad and we
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Been all big and bad and we feel like we've got it together
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Feel like we've got it together and then we do something like
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And then we do something like relying on alcohol, relying on
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Relying on alcohol, relying on drugs, relying on physical
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Drugs, relying on physical relationships with people to
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Relationships with people to bring us comfort and all the
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Bring us comfort and all the while we get emptier and
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While we get emptier and emptier and emptier.
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Emptier and emptier. we are not created to live that
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We are not created to live that way.
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Way.
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>> we.
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>> we.
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>> are created to have union
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>> are created to have union with the one who created us.
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With the one who created us. of course he's the one who
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Of course he's the one who knows us.
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Knows us. he's the one who says before we
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He's the one who says before we were ever formed.
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Were ever formed.
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>> in our.
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>> in our. mother's.
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Mother's. he had a plan.
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He had a plan. for us and the plan was for
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For us and the plan was for good not to harm us but for
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Good not to harm us but for hope and the future.
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Hope and the future. god's got that plan for you
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God's got that plan for you today.
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Today. it doesn't matter where you've
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It doesn't matter where you've gone, how bad you've been, what
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Gone, how bad you've been, what you've done because his
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You've done because his forgiveness is available.
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Forgiveness is available. when we ask.
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When we ask. for it.
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For it.
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>> but you know what it does
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>> but you know what it does mean.
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Mean. it means we come to him and we
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It means we come to him and we say god, i've tried to do this
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Say god, i've tried to do this without you.
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Without you. i've done it on my own.
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I've done it on my own. i've tried to be the one the
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I've tried to be the one the center, the core and i'm i'm
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Center, the core and i'm i'm devastated.
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Devastated. i'm lost.
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I'm lost. i've i've come up empty and i
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I've i've come up empty and i want.
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Want. you i need you.
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You i need you. i'm asking you to forgive my
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I'm asking you to forgive my sins.
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Sins. i've made myself god in my life
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I've made myself god in my life and i'm not god.
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And i'm not god. you are.
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You are. so will you forgive my sins,
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So will you forgive my sins, lord?
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Lord? will you.
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Will you. give.
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Give.
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>> me a fresh start, a new
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>> me a fresh start, a new beginning with you at the
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Beginning with you at the center of it all?
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Center of it all? holy spirit come into my heart
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Holy spirit come into my heart in my life.
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In my life. teach me how to live for you.
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Teach me how to live for you. teach me how to let go and
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Teach me how to let go and recognize you in every moment
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Recognize you in every moment of.
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Of. every day.
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Every day. .
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.
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>> in jesus name i pray.
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>> in jesus name i pray. listen if.
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Listen if.
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>> you've just prayed.
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>> you've just prayed. that prayer.
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That prayer. your life is about to change.
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Your life is about to change. what do you do now?
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What do you do now? well we've got a packet for you
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Well we've got a packet for you called a new day.
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Called a new day. it's.
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It's.
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With wonderful information on how to move forward as a
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How to move forward as a follower of jesus and it's
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Slash prayer to it now. gordon still ahead he was
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Gordon still ahead he was college basketball's.
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College basketball's. national player of the year.
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National player of the year. and yet he didn't even touch.
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And yet he didn't even touch.
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>> a.
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>> a. basketball until.
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Basketball until. he was.
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He was.
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>> 14 years old.
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>> 14 years old. the.
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The. unlikely journey of a.
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Unlikely journey of a. basketball star.
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Basketball star. coming up later.
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Coming up later.
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>> 40 days.
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>> 40 days.
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>> of.
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>> of. praying for america.
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Praying for america. seeking the.
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Seeking the. peace of the nation.
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Peace of the nation. learn to pray for the spiritual
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Learn to pray for the spiritual renewal of our land.
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Renewal of our land. sometimes when.
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Sometimes when.
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>> it.
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>> it.
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>> comes to praying and
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>> comes to praying and reading.
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Reading.
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>> the word of god, we need.
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>> the word of god, we need. someone or.
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Someone or. something to come alongside us.
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Something to come alongside us.
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>> and help guide us on a
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>> and help guide us on a daily.
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Daily. journey on.
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Journey on.
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>> what to pray.
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>> what to pray. how to pray, who to pray for.
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How to pray, who to pray for. and this booklet 40 days of
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And this booklet 40 days of praying.
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Praying.
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>> for.
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>> for. america serves.
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America serves.
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806 five zero 1947. 800 650 1947.
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800 650 1947. that's 806.
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That's 806.
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>> five zero 1947.
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>> five zero 1947. welcome back to the.
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Welcome back to the. 700 club for this cbn
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700 club for this cbn news break.
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News break. a new report shows lower income
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A new report shows lower income americans are cutting back on
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Americans are cutting back on their driving.
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Their driving. due to high gas prices.
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Due to high gas prices. the national average stands at
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The national average stands at $4.56.
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$4.56. some.
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Some.
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>> states are providing.
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>> states are providing. relief.
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Relief.
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>> at the pump.
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>> at the pump. indiana's governor suspending
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Indiana's governor suspending two gas related taxes saving
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Two gas related taxes saving drivers nearly $0.60 per gallon
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Drivers nearly $0.60 per gallon .
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. kentucky's governor is pushing
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Kentucky's governor is pushing a similar.
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A similar. move and.
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Move and.
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>> calling on congress.
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>> calling on congress. to pause the federal gas tax.
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To pause the federal gas tax. attendance at.
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Attendance at.
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>> u.s. churches is making a
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>> u.s. churches is making a comeback.
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Comeback. a new report from the hartford
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A new report from the hartford institute for.
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Institute for. religion.
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Religion.
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>> research surveyed more than
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>> research surveyed more than 7000 congregations.
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7000 congregations. it found catholic and orthodox
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It found catholic and orthodox churches had the highest median
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Churches had the highest median attendance, followed by
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Attendance, followed by evangelical congregations and
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Evangelical congregations and mainline protestants.
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Mainline protestants. overall, 43% reported
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Overall, 43% reported attendance grew by 5%.
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Attendance grew by 5%. while 46%.
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While 46%. said it.
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Said it.
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>> declined.
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>> declined. by 5% with the rest.
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By 5% with the rest. remaining stable, making it the
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Remaining stable, making it the first time in.
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First time in. decades that the majority of
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Decades that the majority of churches are not in decline.
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Churches are not in decline. you can also get the latest
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Gordon and terry we'll be right.
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Right. back with.
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Back with.
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>> more of the 700.
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>> you connected with your loved ones at all times.
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Book a free test. call.
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Call. 1-800-633-0088 friday.
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1-800-633-0088 friday. when i first.
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When i first. walked onto the.
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Walked onto the. regent campus, i.
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Regent campus, i.
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>> felt.
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>> felt. like the lord gave.
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Like the lord gave.
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>> me a hug a.
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>> me a hug a. bridge to the nations.
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Bridge to the nations. she just bring something to the
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She just bring something to the table.
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Table. everywhere that we need her.
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Everywhere that we need her.
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>> a.
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>> a. student who.
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Student who.
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>> traveled halfway around the
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>> traveled halfway around the globe.
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Globe. i.
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I.
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>> felt incredible shalom of
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>> felt incredible shalom of the lord and.
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The lord and. back i said what i'm from
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Back i said what i'm from albania a.
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Albania a. christian leader.
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Christian leader. changing the.
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Changing the.
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>> world pray without.
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>> world pray without.
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>> ceasing.
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>> ceasing. and make an impact in this
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And make an impact in this world.
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World. friday on the 700 club.
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Friday on the 700 club. where i was born with.
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Where i was born with.
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>> a lump on his neck.
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>> a lump on his neck. it was so.
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It was so. big that a scared his mother.
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Big that a scared his mother. who thought he.
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Who thought he. was going to die.
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Was going to die. five month old juan jose was
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Five month old juan jose was born at home with a fluid
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Born at home with a fluid filled sac on the back of his
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Filled sac on the back of his skull.
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Skull. it's a congenital condition
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It's a congenital condition called an encephalitis cell
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Called an encephalitis cell that allows cerebral spinal
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That allows cerebral spinal fluid to leak from the brain
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Fluid to leak from the brain into the.
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Into the. museum is when i saw him.
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Museum is when i saw him. i was scared.
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I was scared. because my.
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Because my. other children.
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Other children.
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>> were not born like this.
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>> were not born like this. i thought he was going to die.
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I thought he was going to die. a doctor confirmed his fears.
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A doctor confirmed his fears. he said the baby needed
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He said the baby needed emergency surgery in guatemala
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Emergency surgery in guatemala city.
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City. the family could not even
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The family could not even afford transportation let alone
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Afford transportation let alone pay for the operation.
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Pay for the operation. i.
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I. prayed and.
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Prayed and.
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>> asked god.
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>> asked god. to help me find a solution.
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To help me find a solution. as the months passed.
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As the months passed.
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>> the lump grew larger and
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>> the lump grew larger and caring for the baby became more
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Caring for the baby became more difficult.
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Difficult. he could not.
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He could not. be moved suddenly there was a
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Be moved suddenly there was a special way to change him.
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Special way to change him. only my daughter and.
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Only my daughter and.
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>> i.
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>> i.
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>> carried.
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>> carried. him.
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Him. because the lump would swell.
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Because the lump would swell.
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>> and.
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>> and. turn purple.
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Turn purple. i'm afraid.
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I'm afraid. that when he is.
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That when he is. older he will ask.
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Older he will ask.
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>> us.
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>> us. why am i like this and.
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Why am i like this and.
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>> i.
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>> i. wonder if he.
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Wonder if he.
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>> was.
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>> was.
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>> going to die.
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>> going to die. i don't have the.
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I don't have the.
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>> funds.
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>> funds.
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>> to treat him.
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>> to treat him. it's so hard to.
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It's so hard to. watch him suffer with.
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Watch him suffer with. this and not be able to help
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This and not be able to help him.
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Him. then thanks to.
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Then thanks to. you operation blessing paid for
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You operation blessing paid for juan jose to receive surgery to
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Juan jose to receive surgery to repair the opening in his skull
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Repair the opening in his skull and to remove the lump.
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And to remove the lump. the surgery was a success and
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The surgery was a success and now juan rosa is a healthy.
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Now juan rosa is a healthy. happy baby boy.
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Happy baby boy. now he.
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Now he. can move freely and.
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Can move freely and.
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>> does not cry from the.
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>> does not cry from the. pain anymore.
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Pain anymore. i'm so happy thanks to god and
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I'm so happy thanks to god and to.
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To. all the.
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All the.
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>> people who support.
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>> people who support. operation blessing for helping.
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Operation blessing for helping.
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>> my son.
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>> my son.
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>> thank you.
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>> thank you. that thank you goes to you if
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That thank you goes to you if you're a member of the 700 club
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You're a member of the 700 club .
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. if you're.
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If you're. not a member i invite you to.
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Not a member i invite you to.
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>> join with us.
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>> join with us. you're joining with tens.
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You're joining with tens. of thousands.
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Of thousands.
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>> of people that say.
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>> of people that say.
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>> yes.
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>> yes. let's make a difference in.
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Let's make a difference in. the world today.
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The world today. let's stand.
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Let's stand.
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>> up for.
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>> up for. those who.
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Those who.
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>> don't.
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>> don't.
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>> have the ability to stand.
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>> have the ability to stand.
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>> up for themselves and.
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>> up for themselves and. let's give them a hand up.
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Let's give them a hand up.
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>> not.
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>> not. just a hand out but a hand up a
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Just a hand out but a hand up a hope and a future.
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Hope and a future. what a life changing.
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What a life changing. event for that little boy to.
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Event for that little boy to. have that surgery paid for.
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Have that surgery paid for. his life now secure.
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His life now secure. being able to grow up.
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Being able to grow up. without pain, without.
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Without pain, without. that.
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That.
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>> uh.
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>> uh. horrible thing.
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Horrible thing. on his neck you made.
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On his neck you made. that possible.
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That possible. and.
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And.
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>> that's because of your.
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>> that's because of your. faithful giving.
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Faithful giving. that you said yes, i want to.
00:40:44.543 --> 00:40:46.044
That you said yes, i want to. do this continually.
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Do this continually. i want.
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I want. $20 a.
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$20 a.
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>> month, $40 a month, $84 a
00:40:49.214 --> 00:40:51.650
>> month, $40 a month, $84 a month whatever.
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Month whatever.
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>> the level is, it's because
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>> the level is, it's because you were.
00:40:54.119 --> 00:40:54.386
You were. faithful in.
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Faithful in.
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>> it that we were able to have
00:40:55.754 --> 00:40:56.788
>> it that we were able to have the medical teams, we were able
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The medical teams, we were able to have.
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To have.
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>> the infrastructure.
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>> the infrastructure. we're able to identify the need
00:40:59.992 --> 00:41:02.094
We're able to identify the need .
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. and then most importantly.
00:41:02.461 --> 00:41:03.929
And then most importantly. tangible relief significant
00:41:04.463 --> 00:41:06.965
Tangible relief significant life change for that little
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Life change for that little boy.
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Boy. you're a part of it when you
00:41:09.134 --> 00:41:10.836
You're a part of it when you join.
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Join. so if.
00:41:11.270 --> 00:41:11.637
So if. you're not a.
00:41:11.770 --> 00:41:12.070
You're not a.
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>> member join.
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>> member join.
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>> with us.
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>> with us. all.
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All.
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>> you have to.
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>> you have to. do is call us 1-800-700-7000
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Do is call us 1-800-700-7000 say i want to be a part of it.
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Say i want to be a part of it.
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>> i.
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>> i.
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>> want to.
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>> want to. be a member of the 700 club.
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Be a member of the 700 club. when you.
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When you.
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>> call make sure you ask for a
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Pledge. express that's electronic
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Express that's electronic monthly.
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Monthly. giving back.
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Giving back.
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>> doing all the work and we
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>> doing all the work and we can send.
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Can send.
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Screen. or you can text cbn.
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Automatically sign up for pledge express.
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>> do.
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>> do. it now.
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It now. 1-800-700-7000 terry over to
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1-800-700-7000 terry over to you.
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You. well up next a man whose hoop
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Well up next a man whose hoop dreams are secondary to his
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Dreams are secondary to his real goal.
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Real goal. the nba's oscar.
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The nba's oscar. tshiebwe tells us what.
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Tshiebwe tells us what.
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>> he's.
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>> he's. really.
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Really.
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>> playing.
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>> playing. for after this.
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For after this. we get it.
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We get it. your life.
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Your life. is crazy right now.
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Is crazy right now. you've got a lot going.
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You've got a lot going. on so who.
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On so who. has time to.
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Has time to. change the world?
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Change the world? well guess what.
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Well guess what. you do.
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You do. when you.
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When you. become a.
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Become a.
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>> cbn partner.
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>> cbn partner.
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>> you make.
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>> you make.
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>> an.
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>> an. impact on lives all around the
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Impact on lives all around the world for.
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World for. just.
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Just. $20 a month you help provide.
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$20 a month you help provide. safe water, good.
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Safe water, good.
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>> food for hungry tummies.
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>> food for hungry tummies. life changing surgeries and a
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Life changing surgeries and a helping hand.
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Helping hand.
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>> to someone in need.
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>> to someone in need. you're helping to preach the
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You're helping to preach the gospel all across the globe.
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Gospel all across the globe. you're sharing the.
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You're sharing the. love of.
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Love of.
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>> jesus and building the
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>> jesus and building the kingdom of god.
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Kingdom of god. right from.
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Right from.
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>> your living room or your car
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>> your living room or your car or from work or wherever you
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Or from work or wherever you are.
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Are. it's a big.
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It's a big. impact for just $20 a month.
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Impact for just $20 a month.
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>> that's.
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>> that's.
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>> about the.
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>> about the. price of.
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Price of.
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>> four.
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>> four. lattes or three.
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Lattes or three.
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>> if.
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>> if. you're.
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You're.
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>> really fancy.
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>> really fancy. it's.
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It's.
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>> easy to sign.
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>> up just go to cbn.com or
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Call us at 1-800-700-7000. become a cbn partner today and
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Become a cbn partner today and start changing the world.
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Start changing the world. oscar tshiebwe grew up in war
00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:23.708
Oscar tshiebwe grew up in war torn congo surrounded by
00:43:23.841 --> 00:43:25.777
Torn congo surrounded by poverty.
00:43:25.910 --> 00:43:26.110
Poverty. hardship and death.
00:43:26.511 --> 00:43:27.979
Hardship and death. against all odds he made it to
00:43:28.112 --> 00:43:30.214
Against all odds he made it to the united states and then to
00:43:30.348 --> 00:43:31.849
The united states and then to the nba.
00:43:31.983 --> 00:43:33.284
The nba. next comes his real goal to go
00:43:33.418 --> 00:43:36.120
Next comes his real goal to go from the nba back to the congo.
00:43:36.254 --> 00:43:38.356
From the nba back to the congo. six foot nine inch basketball
00:43:42.160 --> 00:43:43.628
Six foot nine inch basketball phenom oscar she plays for the
00:43:43.761 --> 00:43:45.863
Phenom oscar she plays for the utah jazz.
00:43:45.997 --> 00:43:46.464
Utah jazz. he couldn't wait to be a part
00:43:46.998 --> 00:43:48.399
He couldn't wait to be a part of.
00:43:48.533 --> 00:43:48.666
Of. the nba.
00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:49.033
The nba. but not for the usual reasons.
00:43:49.367 --> 00:43:51.269
But not for the usual reasons. born and raised in the congo,
00:43:52.003 --> 00:43:53.504
Born and raised in the congo, oskar knows what it is to live
00:43:53.638 --> 00:43:55.339
Oskar knows what it is to live with poverty, lack and loss.
00:43:55.473 --> 00:43:57.575
With poverty, lack and loss. his drive to become an nba
00:43:57.708 --> 00:43:59.811
His drive to become an nba player stemmed from his desire
00:43:59.944 --> 00:44:01.612
Player stemmed from his desire to go back there and help
00:44:01.746 --> 00:44:03.648
To go back there and help people like his late father
00:44:03.781 --> 00:44:05.483
People like his late father always did.
00:44:05.616 --> 00:44:06.317
Always did. when his.
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When his.
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>> nba dream.
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>> nba dream. came true.
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Came true. oscar made good on his promise
00:44:09.387 --> 00:44:11.289
Oscar made good on his promise to help his loved ones.
00:44:11.422 --> 00:44:12.924
To help his loved ones. he also wants to become a
00:44:13.658 --> 00:44:15.560
He also wants to become a preacher one day to tell others
00:44:15.693 --> 00:44:17.595
Preacher one day to tell others what's most important in life.
00:44:17.728 --> 00:44:18.996
What's most important in life. faith in christ.
00:44:19.964 --> 00:44:21.032
Faith in christ. ask her to.
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Ask her to. she is with us now and we
00:44:24.001 --> 00:44:25.403
She is with us now and we welcome you to the program.
00:44:25.536 --> 00:44:26.337
Welcome you to the program. it's great to have you here.
00:44:26.471 --> 00:44:27.872
It's great to have you here. thank you very.
00:44:28.005 --> 00:44:28.573
Thank you very. much for having me.
00:44:28.739 --> 00:44:29.407
Much for having me.
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>> i'm.
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>> i'm.
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>> very excited.
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>> very excited. what a.
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What a.
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>> story.
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>> story.
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>> you have.
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>> you have. you grew.
00:44:32.310 --> 00:44:32.877
You grew. up in really.
00:44:33.044 --> 00:44:33.911
Up in really. abject poverty.
00:44:34.445 --> 00:44:35.546
Abject poverty.
00:44:34.445 --> 00:44:35.746
>> but you had a father.
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>> but you had a father. who.
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Who.
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>> right.
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>> right. in the midst of all of that
00:44:38.616 --> 00:44:40.985
In the midst of all of that difficulty and challenge taught
00:44:41.119 --> 00:44:42.787
Difficulty and challenge taught you the importance of
00:44:42.920 --> 00:44:45.256
You the importance of generosity and service.
00:44:45.389 --> 00:44:46.257
Generosity and service.
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>> to.
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>> to. other people.
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Other people. how did that impact your.
00:44:47.358 --> 00:44:48.159
How did that impact your. life.
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Life. has changed my life for good
00:44:49.293 --> 00:44:51.596
Has changed my life for good because of my dad he hadn't.
00:44:51.729 --> 00:44:53.030
Because of my dad he hadn't. have much.
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Have much. yeah.
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Yeah.
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>> but he wanted.
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>> but he wanted. to help the world.
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To help the world. to see how high.
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To see how high.
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>> they.
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>> they.
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>> work.
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>> work. and he.
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And he.
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>> wanted to change the world.
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>> wanted to change the world. that inspired me very much so
00:45:02.140 --> 00:45:04.442
That inspired me very much so since he's not.
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Since he's not.
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>> there anymore then i just
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>> there anymore then i just take that inspiration.
00:45:07.445 --> 00:45:09.113
Take that inspiration. to work harder and try to give
00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:10.748
To work harder and try to give back and continue to help
00:45:10.882 --> 00:45:11.782
Back and continue to help people.
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People. especially to the lord.
00:45:12.316 --> 00:45:13.818
Especially to the lord. i know as i read your book that
00:45:14.552 --> 00:45:16.454
I know as i read your book that you were often at odds with
00:45:16.587 --> 00:45:18.089
You were often at odds with your dad about that saying you
00:45:18.222 --> 00:45:19.290
Your dad about that saying you know about this god that you
00:45:19.423 --> 00:45:21.325
Know about this god that you worship why are.
00:45:21.459 --> 00:45:21.826
Worship why are.
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>> we still living like this
00:45:22.160 --> 00:45:23.261
>> we still living like this and.
00:45:23.394 --> 00:45:23.528
And. you're helping everybody else?
00:45:23.661 --> 00:45:25.296
You're helping everybody else? but then you lost your dad when
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But then you lost your dad when you were only 12 years old.
00:45:27.064 --> 00:45:28.332
You were only 12 years old. i mean, oscar, that's when most
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I mean, oscar, that's when most boys really need.
00:45:30.101 --> 00:45:30.501
Boys really need.
00:45:30.101 --> 00:45:30.701
>> their dads.
00:45:30.835 --> 00:45:31.402
>> their dads. and you were angry with god.
00:45:31.536 --> 00:45:33.037
And you were angry with god. i was very hungry to god.
00:45:33.171 --> 00:45:34.872
I was very hungry to god. i see if we.
00:45:35.006 --> 00:45:36.674
I see if we. if god is all.
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If god is all. knowing.
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Knowing. all powerful and.
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All powerful and.
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>> he love.
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>> he love. my dad.
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My dad. i saw.
00:45:41.345 --> 00:45:41.712
I saw. my dad served.
00:45:41.879 --> 00:45:43.147
My dad served. with this heart.
00:45:43.281 --> 00:45:43.948
With this heart. for him to me.
00:45:44.482 --> 00:45:45.583
For him to me. so when the church is like
00:45:45.716 --> 00:45:48.619
So when the church is like missing heaven so he was really
00:45:48.753 --> 00:45:51.055
Missing heaven so he was really complaining about that but.
00:45:51.189 --> 00:45:52.890
Complaining about that but. served.
00:45:53.024 --> 00:45:53.724
Served.
00:45:53.024 --> 00:45:53.925
>> the.
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>> the. lord with.
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Lord with.
00:45:54.392 --> 00:45:54.825
>> his heart.
00:45:54.959 --> 00:45:55.259
>> his heart. yeah he had nothing.
00:45:55.393 --> 00:45:56.127
Yeah he had nothing. but.
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But.
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>> he.
00:45:57.695 --> 00:45:57.895
>> he. gave all he had to god and
00:45:58.029 --> 00:45:59.530
Gave all he had to god and helping people.
00:45:59.664 --> 00:45:59.997
Helping people. but when i.
00:46:00.131 --> 00:46:00.565
But when i.
00:46:00.131 --> 00:46:00.765
>> saw.
00:46:00.898 --> 00:46:01.098
>> saw. my dad pass.
00:46:01.232 --> 00:46:01.499
My dad pass. i see.
00:46:02.266 --> 00:46:02.633
I see.
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>> so as a young.
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>> so as a young.
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>> i.
00:46:03.834 --> 00:46:04.001
>> i. didn't know it then this thing.
00:46:04.135 --> 00:46:05.069
Didn't know it then this thing. i see how can somebody love god
00:46:05.203 --> 00:46:07.705
I see how can somebody love god like.
00:46:07.838 --> 00:46:08.005
Like. this and god take them?
00:46:08.139 --> 00:46:09.340
This and god take them? so i kind of lost my faith for
00:46:10.074 --> 00:46:11.776
So i kind of lost my faith for a long period of time until
00:46:11.909 --> 00:46:14.212
A long period of time until very nice to see the work.
00:46:14.345 --> 00:46:15.146
Very nice to see the work. i started seeing the work of
00:46:15.279 --> 00:46:16.781
I started seeing the work of god in my life.
00:46:16.914 --> 00:46:17.481
God in my life. then i said no, i need to
00:46:18.216 --> 00:46:19.717
Then i said no, i need to surrender.
00:46:19.850 --> 00:46:20.084
Surrender. yeah.
00:46:20.218 --> 00:46:20.384
Yeah.
00:46:20.218 --> 00:46:20.585
>> your dad shared some words
00:46:20.718 --> 00:46:22.587
>> your dad shared some words with you that really truly
00:46:22.720 --> 00:46:24.589
With you that really truly impacted.
00:46:24.722 --> 00:46:25.223
Impacted.
00:46:24.722 --> 00:46:25.423
>> you.
00:46:25.556 --> 00:46:25.756
>> you. before he died.
00:46:25.890 --> 00:46:26.557
Before he died. what what were those words?
00:46:26.691 --> 00:46:27.959
What what were those words? my dad it share with me.
00:46:29.126 --> 00:46:31.028
My dad it share with me. um.
00:46:31.162 --> 00:46:31.429
Um. you are the one who's going to
00:46:31.562 --> 00:46:32.830
You are the one who's going to take care of family and you're
00:46:32.964 --> 00:46:34.065
Take care of family and you're going to be, uh, the lead of
00:46:34.198 --> 00:46:35.900
Going to be, uh, the lead of this family because you're the
00:46:36.033 --> 00:46:37.935
This family because you're the one who listened to me a lot
00:46:38.069 --> 00:46:39.136
One who listened to me a lot more than all your brothers.
00:46:39.270 --> 00:46:40.371
More than all your brothers. and you stay young but your
00:46:40.504 --> 00:46:41.806
And you stay young but your brother the be with life
00:46:41.939 --> 00:46:43.207
Brother the be with life because they have a gun and
00:46:43.341 --> 00:46:45.643
Because they have a gun and marry and all these things as
00:46:45.776 --> 00:46:47.278
Marry and all these things as you listen to me, um, you're
00:46:47.411 --> 00:46:49.914
You listen to me, um, you're the one i'm going to take you
00:46:50.047 --> 00:46:50.848
The one i'm going to take you to mom.
00:46:50.982 --> 00:46:51.182
To mom. you're going to take you to a
00:46:51.315 --> 00:46:51.949
You're going to take you to a family.
00:46:52.083 --> 00:46:52.283
Family. not just that you're going to
00:46:52.416 --> 00:46:53.084
Not just that you're going to take care of many people.
00:46:53.217 --> 00:46:54.018
Take care of many people. so continue it.
00:46:54.151 --> 00:46:55.453
So continue it. uh, build your relationship
00:46:55.987 --> 00:46:57.455
Uh, build your relationship into god in the world court and
00:46:57.588 --> 00:46:59.090
Into god in the world court and everything will change.
00:46:59.223 --> 00:46:59.924
Everything will change. for you.
00:47:00.458 --> 00:47:00.925
For you. he gave you everything?
00:47:01.058 --> 00:47:01.959
He gave you everything? yeah.
00:47:02.093 --> 00:47:02.360
Yeah.
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>> you know, at some points
00:47:02.693 --> 00:47:04.562
>> you know, at some points along the way because in your
00:47:04.695 --> 00:47:05.796
Along the way because in your book you go into this your book
00:47:05.930 --> 00:47:07.231
Book you go into this your book by the way called courage in
00:47:07.365 --> 00:47:08.432
By the way called courage in the dark.
00:47:08.566 --> 00:47:08.866
The dark. the story.
00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:09.867
The story.
00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:10.067
>> of your life.
00:47:10.201 --> 00:47:10.601
>> of your life. um, you talk about.
00:47:10.935 --> 00:47:12.236
Um, you talk about. how you kind of.
00:47:12.570 --> 00:47:13.471
How you kind of. went in and out of things for.
00:47:13.604 --> 00:47:15.306
Went in and out of things for.
00:47:13.604 --> 00:47:15.506
>> a.
00:47:15.640 --> 00:47:15.806
>> a. while.
00:47:15.940 --> 00:47:16.107
While.
00:47:15.940 --> 00:47:16.307
>> as you.
00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:16.707
>> as you. were.
00:47:16.841 --> 00:47:17.008
Were. growing up and understandably
00:47:17.141 --> 00:47:17.908
Growing up and understandably so.
00:47:18.042 --> 00:47:18.175
So. but when.
00:47:18.309 --> 00:47:18.542
But when. did you.
00:47:18.676 --> 00:47:19.076
Did you. hit that place in your.
00:47:19.210 --> 00:47:20.678
Hit that place in your. life where you.
00:47:20.845 --> 00:47:21.512
Life where you. suddenly had the determination
00:47:21.646 --> 00:47:22.947
Suddenly had the determination to rise up out of where you.
00:47:23.080 --> 00:47:25.349
To rise up out of where you.
00:47:23.080 --> 00:47:25.549
>> were.
00:47:25.683 --> 00:47:25.883
>> were. to make a.
00:47:26.017 --> 00:47:26.317
To make a. difference.
00:47:26.450 --> 00:47:26.851
Difference.
00:47:26.450 --> 00:47:27.051
>> to make it different?
00:47:27.184 --> 00:47:28.085
>> to make it different? um, i went for a long time when
00:47:28.419 --> 00:47:30.721
Um, i went for a long time when i lost my dad and i decided to
00:47:30.855 --> 00:47:34.191
I lost my dad and i decided to shift away from faith.
00:47:34.325 --> 00:47:35.393
Shift away from faith. just to.
00:47:35.526 --> 00:47:36.394
Just to. find out why is our life so
00:47:37.161 --> 00:47:39.864
Find out why is our life so this why are.
00:47:39.997 --> 00:47:40.798
This why are.
00:47:39.997 --> 00:47:40.998
>> we stuck?
00:47:41.132 --> 00:47:41.465
>> we stuck?
00:47:41.132 --> 00:47:41.666
>> we suffering?
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>> we suffering? why are we going through all
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Why are we going through all these things?
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These things? but i'm seeing people with
00:47:43.934 --> 00:47:45.636
But i'm seeing people with money, with car, with
00:47:45.770 --> 00:47:47.071
Money, with car, with everything when i ask for
00:47:47.204 --> 00:47:48.472
Everything when i ask for advice how did you do to become
00:47:48.606 --> 00:47:51.542
Advice how did you do to become that?
00:47:51.676 --> 00:47:51.942
That? how did you do to have all
00:47:52.076 --> 00:47:53.878
How did you do to have all these things?
00:47:54.011 --> 00:47:54.312
These things? many tell me education, hard
00:47:54.445 --> 00:47:56.213
Many tell me education, hard work, being good kids and
00:47:56.347 --> 00:47:58.249
Work, being good kids and everybody going to want to help
00:47:58.382 --> 00:47:59.383
Everybody going to want to help you.
00:47:59.517 --> 00:47:59.650
You. so i focus on those things so
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So i focus on those things so trying to get education, being
00:48:02.753 --> 00:48:03.854
Trying to get education, being a good kid and hard worker.
00:48:03.988 --> 00:48:05.456
A good kid and hard worker. but at some point when i came
00:48:06.023 --> 00:48:07.692
But at some point when i came to america i just focused on
00:48:07.825 --> 00:48:09.126
To america i just focused on that stay away from god and
00:48:09.260 --> 00:48:10.561
That stay away from god and everything.
00:48:10.695 --> 00:48:10.961
Everything. there was no peace.
00:48:11.095 --> 00:48:12.363
There was no peace. there was nothing.
00:48:12.530 --> 00:48:13.397
There was nothing. my life would just complicated
00:48:13.531 --> 00:48:16.667
My life would just complicated the among the hardest.
00:48:16.801 --> 00:48:18.669
The among the hardest. i work down more than just
00:48:18.803 --> 00:48:21.105
I work down more than just one more things.
00:48:21.238 --> 00:48:21.572
One more things. there was no peace in my heart.
00:48:21.706 --> 00:48:23.541
There was no peace in my heart. the only thing was coming to my
00:48:23.674 --> 00:48:26.177
The only thing was coming to my mind is like i think that is
00:48:26.310 --> 00:48:28.012
Mind is like i think that is better than leaving.
00:48:28.145 --> 00:48:29.847
Better than leaving. if that's uh if i can feel this
00:48:29.980 --> 00:48:32.083
If that's uh if i can feel this heavy in my heart all the time
00:48:32.216 --> 00:48:34.518
Heavy in my heart all the time i'm chasing my me i'm chasing
00:48:34.652 --> 00:48:36.754
I'm chasing my me i'm chasing all these things in the world i
00:48:36.887 --> 00:48:38.189
All these things in the world i don't even have it but my heart
00:48:38.322 --> 00:48:39.590
Don't even have it but my heart is so much in trouble i'd
00:48:39.724 --> 00:48:41.225
Is so much in trouble i'd prefer to die by one day.
00:48:41.359 --> 00:48:43.260
Prefer to die by one day. one of my teacher for a month
00:48:43.594 --> 00:48:45.896
One of my teacher for a month in mission school he saw that
00:48:46.030 --> 00:48:47.932
In mission school he saw that he was a man of god.
00:48:48.065 --> 00:48:49.166
He was a man of god. they say man, i have some gift
00:48:49.300 --> 00:48:50.568
They say man, i have some gift for you if you want to take it.
00:48:50.701 --> 00:48:52.803
For you if you want to take it. i said what is it?
00:48:52.937 --> 00:48:54.038
I said what is it? and he handed me the bible
00:48:54.372 --> 00:48:56.073
And he handed me the bible hoping it this bible will help
00:48:56.207 --> 00:48:57.675
Hoping it this bible will help you one day i hope in the bible
00:48:57.808 --> 00:49:01.145
You one day i hope in the bible when i was crying in my room
00:49:01.278 --> 00:49:02.780
When i was crying in my room because i did not have anything
00:49:02.913 --> 00:49:04.382
Because i did not have anything no money, no phone, no anything
00:49:04.515 --> 00:49:06.817
No money, no phone, no anything i was in the dorm, no english.
00:49:06.951 --> 00:49:09.487
I was in the dorm, no english. so i opened the bible and i
00:49:09.620 --> 00:49:12.123
So i opened the bible and i read jesus was speaking to me.
00:49:12.256 --> 00:49:14.358
Read jesus was speaking to me. he said why are you worried
00:49:15.092 --> 00:49:16.594
He said why are you worried about these things?
00:49:16.727 --> 00:49:17.595
About these things? why you worry us in the book of
00:49:17.928 --> 00:49:20.030
Why you worry us in the book of matthew seek first the kingdom
00:49:20.164 --> 00:49:22.466
Matthew seek first the kingdom of god and his righteousness
00:49:22.600 --> 00:49:24.335
Of god and his righteousness and everything should be hiding
00:49:24.468 --> 00:49:25.503
And everything should be hiding to you.
00:49:25.636 --> 00:49:25.936
To you. and from that moment i say why
00:49:26.470 --> 00:49:28.372
And from that moment i say why the bible is always saying
00:49:28.506 --> 00:49:29.573
The bible is always saying things like this.
00:49:29.707 --> 00:49:30.408
Things like this. but i feel like from receiving
00:49:30.541 --> 00:49:32.843
But i feel like from receiving the world my heart was if you
00:49:32.977 --> 00:49:35.279
The world my heart was if you feel like different, like joy.
00:49:35.413 --> 00:49:37.281
Feel like different, like joy.
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>> in.
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>> in. peace just you hear the word i
00:49:37.915 --> 00:49:40.184
Peace just you hear the word i close the bible i feel like
00:49:40.317 --> 00:49:41.385
Close the bible i feel like there was fight inside of me
00:49:41.519 --> 00:49:43.020
There was fight inside of me not to believe in in another
00:49:43.154 --> 00:49:45.256
Not to believe in in another heart to say believe in follow
00:49:45.389 --> 00:49:46.690
Heart to say believe in follow this is the right thing.
00:49:46.824 --> 00:49:47.892
This is the right thing. but from that moment i go back
00:49:48.626 --> 00:49:51.562
But from that moment i go back in again and open the bible and
00:49:51.695 --> 00:49:53.998
In again and open the bible and jesus was speaking to me.
00:49:54.131 --> 00:49:54.999
Jesus was speaking to me. everything you see is possible
00:49:55.533 --> 00:49:57.234
Everything you see is possible if you can just believe and
00:49:57.368 --> 00:49:59.470
If you can just believe and follow god, god will help you
00:49:59.603 --> 00:50:01.305
Follow god, god will help you and the book of luke.
00:50:01.439 --> 00:50:02.306
And the book of luke. from that moment i decided to
00:50:03.073 --> 00:50:05.776
From that moment i decided to surrender my life to god.
00:50:05.910 --> 00:50:07.011
Surrender my life to god. it was then uh it was uh i
00:50:07.144 --> 00:50:08.813
It was then uh it was uh i think myself at the end of my
00:50:08.946 --> 00:50:10.848
Think myself at the end of my sophomore year in high school
00:50:10.981 --> 00:50:13.083
Sophomore year in high school and i start pushing god slow
00:50:13.217 --> 00:50:14.518
And i start pushing god slow slow slow.
00:50:14.652 --> 00:50:15.319
Slow slow. i write all my vision down.
00:50:16.053 --> 00:50:17.955
I write all my vision down. jesus is anything is possible.
00:50:18.088 --> 00:50:19.790
Jesus is anything is possible. the bible says seek first the
00:50:19.924 --> 00:50:21.592
The bible says seek first the kingdom of god and his
00:50:21.725 --> 00:50:23.027
Kingdom of god and his righteousness and everything
00:50:23.160 --> 00:50:24.261
Righteousness and everything shall be added.
00:50:24.395 --> 00:50:25.463
Shall be added. you should not go after me you
00:50:25.596 --> 00:50:27.097
You should not go after me you just need to walk on it but it
00:50:27.231 --> 00:50:28.833
Just need to walk on it but it shall be handed to you.
00:50:28.966 --> 00:50:30.034
Shall be handed to you. i don't gotta say uh i'm going
00:50:30.601 --> 00:50:32.903
I don't gotta say uh i'm going to give you a narrative.
00:50:33.037 --> 00:50:33.804
To give you a narrative. i'm going to write everything i
00:50:36.173 --> 00:50:38.275
I'm going to write everything i want to accomplish everything i
00:50:38.409 --> 00:50:40.110
Want to accomplish everything i want you to give to me.
00:50:40.244 --> 00:50:40.945
Want you to give to me. but i'm going to focus so much
00:50:41.078 --> 00:50:42.780
But i'm going to focus so much in your kingdom.
00:50:42.913 --> 00:50:44.014
In your kingdom. i'm going to seek your kingdom
00:50:44.148 --> 00:50:46.050
I'm going to seek your kingdom and your righteousness and i'm
00:50:46.183 --> 00:50:48.285
And your righteousness and i'm going to see if you to give me
00:50:48.419 --> 00:50:49.520
Going to see if you to give me what i want and write on my
00:50:49.653 --> 00:50:51.355
What i want and write on my vision down and i put it on
00:50:51.489 --> 00:50:53.791
Vision down and i put it on someone i can see every day in
00:50:53.924 --> 00:50:55.593
Someone i can see every day in i come a mom can you teach me
00:50:55.726 --> 00:50:58.262
I come a mom can you teach me how to seek god's kingdom?
00:50:58.395 --> 00:50:59.864
How to seek god's kingdom? my mom see what is going on i
00:50:59.997 --> 00:51:01.899
My mom see what is going on i said just teach me how to seek
00:51:02.032 --> 00:51:03.534
Said just teach me how to seek god's kingdom.
00:51:03.667 --> 00:51:04.001
God's kingdom. i don't know how to see god's
00:51:04.134 --> 00:51:06.070
I don't know how to see god's kingdom.
00:51:06.203 --> 00:51:06.403
Kingdom. oh you remember you that why
00:51:06.537 --> 00:51:07.905
Oh you remember you that why are you that i say i don't want
00:51:08.038 --> 00:51:09.173
Are you that i say i don't want to hear what my dad did because
00:51:09.306 --> 00:51:10.274
To hear what my dad did because my daddy did.
00:51:10.407 --> 00:51:10.908
My daddy did. did you see his life but my mom
00:51:11.041 --> 00:51:14.345
Did you see his life but my mom go down to seek the kingdom of
00:51:14.478 --> 00:51:16.180
Go down to seek the kingdom of god is to love god with all
00:51:16.313 --> 00:51:17.815
God is to love god with all your heart and mind.
00:51:17.948 --> 00:51:18.415
Your heart and mind. and so to seek the kingdom of
00:51:18.549 --> 00:51:19.783
And so to seek the kingdom of god to love your neighbor as
00:51:19.917 --> 00:51:20.985
God to love your neighbor as yourself.
00:51:21.118 --> 00:51:21.352
Yourself. so she has been a lot of things
00:51:21.485 --> 00:51:23.721
So she has been a lot of things and uh, i wrote it down.
00:51:23.854 --> 00:51:25.456
And uh, i wrote it down. i start living by then and from
00:51:25.589 --> 00:51:27.491
I start living by then and from that moment until today
00:51:27.625 --> 00:51:28.926
That moment until today everything i wrote in paper has
00:51:29.059 --> 00:51:30.761
Everything i wrote in paper has come to pass.
00:51:30.895 --> 00:51:31.762
Come to pass. guys have handed me everything
00:51:32.096 --> 00:51:33.397
Guys have handed me everything .
00:51:33.531 --> 00:51:33.631
. that you have a page in.
00:51:34.131 --> 00:51:35.633
That you have a page in. your book.
00:51:35.766 --> 00:51:36.033
Your book.
00:51:35.766 --> 00:51:36.233
>> where you list.
00:51:36.367 --> 00:51:37.067
>> where you list. all the.
00:51:37.201 --> 00:51:37.902
All the. awards that were a.
00:51:38.435 --> 00:51:39.503
Awards that were a. result of your obedience.
00:51:39.637 --> 00:51:41.372
Result of your obedience.
00:51:39.637 --> 00:51:41.572
>> and you're seeking god.
00:51:41.705 --> 00:51:42.406
>> and you're seeking god.
00:51:41.705 --> 00:51:42.606
>> i don't.
00:51:42.740 --> 00:51:43.007
>> i don't. have it.
00:51:43.140 --> 00:51:43.340
Have it.
00:51:43.140 --> 00:51:43.541
>> marked in this copy.
00:51:43.674 --> 00:51:44.308
>> marked in this copy.
00:51:43.674 --> 00:51:44.508
>> this out.
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>> this out.
00:51:44.642 --> 00:51:45.142
>> here but it's remarkable.
00:51:45.276 --> 00:51:46.010
>> here but it's remarkable. so you did.
00:51:46.143 --> 00:51:46.810
So you did.
00:51:46.143 --> 00:51:47.011
>> what god told you to do.
00:51:47.144 --> 00:51:48.746
>> what god told you to do. yeah.
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Yeah. not easy.
00:51:49.213 --> 00:51:49.880
Not easy.
00:51:49.213 --> 00:51:50.080
>> i mean, we're.
00:51:50.214 --> 00:51:50.614
>> i mean, we're. summarizing this for the little
00:51:51.181 --> 00:51:52.249
Summarizing this for the little bit of time that we have, but
00:51:52.383 --> 00:51:53.684
Bit of time that we have, but let me say you.
00:51:53.817 --> 00:51:54.285
Let me say you.
00:51:53.817 --> 00:51:54.485
>> can.
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>> can.
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>> read more about.
00:51:55.152 --> 00:51:55.686
>> read more about. oscar's journey in his memoir
00:51:56.020 --> 00:51:57.922
Oscar's journey in his memoir is called courage in the dark.
00:51:58.055 --> 00:51:59.523
Is called courage in the dark. you need to be encouraged in
00:52:00.090 --> 00:52:01.358
You need to be encouraged in your life if you just want to
00:52:01.492 --> 00:52:02.693
Your life if you just want to see that obedience is not just
00:52:02.826 --> 00:52:04.128
See that obedience is not just the very best way to show that
00:52:04.261 --> 00:52:05.729
The very best way to show that you love god, but the very best
00:52:05.863 --> 00:52:07.565
You love god, but the very best way to have a.
00:52:07.698 --> 00:52:08.198
Way to have a. successful life.
00:52:08.332 --> 00:52:08.799
Successful life. this is the book.
00:52:08.933 --> 00:52:09.533
This is the book.
00:52:08.933 --> 00:52:09.733
>> for you.
00:52:09.867 --> 00:52:10.134
>> for you.
00:52:09.867 --> 00:52:10.334
>> it's available wherever
00:52:10.467 --> 00:52:11.101
>> it's available wherever books are sold.
00:52:11.235 --> 00:52:11.735
Books are sold. we want to leave you with
00:52:11.869 --> 00:52:13.137
We want to leave you with these.
00:52:13.270 --> 00:52:13.437
These. words from.
00:52:13.571 --> 00:52:13.837
Words from.
00:52:13.571 --> 00:52:14.038
>> psalm 118.
00:52:14.171 --> 00:52:14.505
>> psalm 118. i shall not.
00:52:14.638 --> 00:52:15.506
I shall not. die but live and declare.
00:52:15.673 --> 00:52:17.942
Die but live and declare. the.
00:52:18.075 --> 00:52:18.275
The.
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>> works.
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>> works. of the lord.
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Of the lord. god bless you.
00:52:20.044 --> 00:52:21.145
God bless you. thanks for being with us.
00:52:21.278 --> 00:52:22.079
Thanks for being with us.
00:52:21.278 --> 00:52:22.279
>> today and oscar, thank you.
00:52:22.413 --> 00:52:23.047
>> today and oscar, thank you. for being here.
00:52:23.180 --> 00:52:23.514
For being here.
00:52:23.180 --> 00:52:23.714
>> it's great.
00:52:23.847 --> 00:52:24.181
>> it's great.
00:52:23.847 --> 00:52:24.381
>> to.
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>> to. have you here.
00:52:24.815 --> 00:52:25.115
Have you here.
00:52:24.815 --> 00:52:25.316
>> thank you for having me.
00:52:25.449 --> 00:52:26.150
>> thank you for having me.
00:52:25.449 --> 00:52:26.350
>> when i first.
00:52:26.483 --> 00:52:31.422
>> when i first. walked onto the.
00:52:32.156 --> 00:52:33.457
Walked onto the. regent campus i.
00:52:33.591 --> 00:52:34.458
Regent campus i. felt like the lord.
00:52:34.625 --> 00:52:35.292
Felt like the lord. gave me a hug a.
00:52:35.426 --> 00:52:36.226
Gave me a hug a. bridge to the nations.
00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:37.461
Bridge to the nations. she just bring something to the
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She just bring something to the table.
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Table. everywhere.
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Everywhere. that we need her a.
00:52:40.431 --> 00:52:41.732
That we need her a. student.
00:52:41.865 --> 00:52:42.366
Student.
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>> who traveled.
00:52:42.700 --> 00:52:43.033
>> who traveled. halfway around the.
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Halfway around the. globe i.
00:52:44.134 --> 00:52:44.802
Globe i. felt incredible shalom of the
00:52:44.935 --> 00:52:46.637
Felt incredible shalom of the lord and.
00:52:46.770 --> 00:52:47.471
Lord and. back i.
00:52:47.605 --> 00:52:48.072
Back i. said what.
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Said what.
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>> i'm.
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>> i'm. from albania a.
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From albania a. christian leader.
00:52:50.474 --> 00:52:51.342
Christian leader. changing the world.
00:52:52.076 --> 00:52:52.776
Changing the world. pray without ceasing.
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