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November 19, 2025

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. >> following program is
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>> following program is sponsored by cbn today.
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Sponsored by cbn today. >> courageous hope the the
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>> courageous hope the the missionary who planted churches
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Missionary who planted churches in some of the most dangerous
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In some of the most dangerous parts of the world and reached
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Parts of the world and reached 2 billion children with the.
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2 billion children with the. >> plus new york times best
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>> plus new york times best selling author president of
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Selling author president of proverbs 31 ministries lisa
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Proverbs 31 ministries lisa turk opens up about the
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Turk opens up about the heartbreaking end to her 20
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Heartbreaking end to her 20 year marriage surviving an
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Year marriage surviving an unwanted divorce and the hope
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Unwanted divorce and the hope she found in its aftermath.
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She found in its aftermath. >> today on the 700 club
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>> today on the 700 club welcome to the 700 club.
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Welcome to the 700 club. >> the crown prince of saudi
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>> the crown prince of saudi arabia says he wants to join
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Arabia says he wants to join the abraham accords normal eyes
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The abraham accords normal eyes relations with israel but
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Relations with israel but there's a catch.
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There's a catch. the promise of a palestinian
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The promise of a palestinian state.
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State. >> well, in a white house
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>> well, in a white house meeting with president, the two
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Meeting with president, the two leaders agreed to a new
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Leaders agreed to a new security deal and in billions
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Security deal and in billions and economic investments.
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And economic investments. paul petite reports jerusalem
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Paul petite reports jerusalem and the first visit by saudi
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And the first visit by saudi crown prince mohammed bin
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Crown prince mohammed bin salman to, the white house in
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Salman to, the white house in seven years.
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Seven years. president trump is moving to
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President trump is moving to deepen security and civil
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Deepen security and civil nuclear cooperation with the
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Nuclear cooperation with the world's largest exporter.
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World's largest exporter. a relationship the president
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A relationship the president has made central second term.
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Has made central second term. the crown prince told trump he
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The crown prince told trump he wants saudi to join the abraham
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Wants saudi to join the abraham accords and normalize relations
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Accords and normalize relations with israel but only if there's
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With israel but only if there's a clear path toward a
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A clear path toward a palestinian something israeli
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Palestinian something israeli prime minister benjamin
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Prime minister benjamin netanyahu insists cannot
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Netanyahu insists cannot happen.
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Happen. >> i don't want to use the word
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>> i don't want to use the word commitment but.
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Commitment but. we've had a very good talk on
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We've had a very good talk on the abraham accords.
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The abraham accords. we talked about one state to
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We talked about one state to state but i think you have a
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State but i think you have a very good feeling towards the
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Very good feeling towards the abraham accords yes,
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Abraham accords yes, definitely, mr. president, we
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Definitely, mr. president, we want peaceful the israelis.
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Want peaceful the israelis. we want peace for the
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We want peace for the palestinians them to coexist
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Palestinians them to coexist peacefully in the region and we
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Peacefully in the region and we will do our best to reach a
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Will do our best to reach a deal.
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Deal. >> the two also signed an
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>> the two also signed an agreement making saudi a major
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Agreement making saudi a major non-nato ally with the u.s..
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Non-nato ally with the u.s.. the security arrangement long
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The security arrangement long in place with israel.
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In place with israel. it includes selling f-35
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It includes selling f-35 stealth fighters and hundred
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Stealth fighters and hundred u.s. made tanks to the kingdom
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U.s. made tanks to the kingdom and yes, has has agreed to
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And yes, has has agreed to invest $600 billion in the
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Invest $600 billion in the united states with the goal of
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United states with the goal of pushing that investment to 1
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Pushing that investment to 1 trillion.
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Trillion. responding to a question about
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Responding to a question about the 2018 murder of journalist
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The 2018 murder of journalist jamal khashoggi, trump defended
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Jamal khashoggi, trump defended the crown prince saying he did
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The crown prince saying he did not know about the operation
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Not know about the operation directly contradicting u.s.
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Directly contradicting u.s. intelligence findings about the
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Intelligence findings about the jurors.
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Jurors. >> it's really painful to hear
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>> it's really painful to hear ,you know, anyone that's been
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,you know, anyone that's been losing his life for, you know,
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Losing his life for, you know, no real purpose or no nothing
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No real purpose or no nothing illegal way out.
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Illegal way out. >> it's been painful for us in
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>> it's been painful for us in saudi arabia.
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Saudi arabia. we did all that steps of
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We did all that steps of investigation, etc. in saudi
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Investigation, etc. in saudi arabia and we've improved our
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Arabia and we've improved our system to be sure that nothing
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System to be sure that nothing happened like and it's painful
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Happened like and it's painful and it's a huge mistake and we
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And it's a huge mistake and we are doing our best that this
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Are doing our best that this doesn't happen again.
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Doesn't happen again. >> and today in a separate
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>> and today in a separate diplomatic track u.s. special
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Diplomatic track u.s. special envoy steve wyckoff is set to
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Envoy steve wyckoff is set to meet in turkey with a senior
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Meet in turkey with a senior hamas delegation to shore up
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Hamas delegation to shore up the ongoing cease in gaza.
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The ongoing cease in gaza. hamas is defiant about
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Hamas is defiant about disarming but the u.s. is
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Disarming but the u.s. is expected to push that demand as
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Expected to push that demand as it works to keep alive and the
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It works to keep alive and the gaza strip.
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Gaza strip. paul bettina, cbn, jerusalem.
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Paul bettina, cbn, jerusalem. >> well, we pray for peace we
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>> well, we pray for peace we pray for peace throughout the
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Pray for peace throughout the middle east and especially in.
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Middle east and especially in. the problem is and it's a deep
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The problem is and it's a deep problem ideology on the
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Problem ideology on the palestinian side hasn't changed
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Palestinian side hasn't changed since 1948 and actually
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Since 1948 and actually predates that.
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Predates that. you look back in the history
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You look back in the history the hebron massacre of 1929
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The hebron massacre of 1929 practically mirrors happened on
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Practically mirrors happened on october 7th.
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October 7th. that hatred is deep.
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That hatred is deep. it runs generationally.
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It runs generationally. so to say okay if we if we just
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So to say okay if we if we just create a new palestinian state
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Create a new palestinian state suddenly there will be a desire
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Suddenly there will be a desire for peace and prosperity will
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For peace and prosperity will want to build futures for
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Want to build futures for themselves their children,
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Themselves their children, their grandchildren.
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Their grandchildren. but the reality on the ground
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But the reality on the ground is the ideology is deep that
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Is the ideology is deep that people are willing to sacrifice
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People are willing to sacrifice their.
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Their. the hamas was willing to
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The hamas was willing to sacrifice the entire population
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Sacrifice the entire population of gaza in pursuit of their
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Of gaza in pursuit of their goal of wiping israel off the
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Goal of wiping israel off the map without a recognition that
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Map without a recognition that that ideology has to change and
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That ideology has to change and change funded mentally and
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Change funded mentally and changed generationally.
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Changed generationally. i don't you can put a state
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I don't you can put a state behind that it just it really
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Behind that it just it really doesn't make any sense.
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Doesn't make any sense. so we'll we hope and we pray
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So we'll we hope and we pray for peace.
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For peace. >> another texas governor greg
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>> another texas governor greg abbott designated a muslim
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Abbott designated a muslim avoca a sikh group right here
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Avoca a sikh group right here in the united states as a
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In the united states as a foreign terrorist organization.
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Foreign terrorist organization. from graham has that story and
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From graham has that story and more from the newsroom from
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More from the newsroom from gordan governor greg abbott
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Gordan governor greg abbott issued a declaration on the
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Issued a declaration on the council islam of american
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Council islam of american islamic relations accusing it
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Islamic relations accusing it of supporting global terrorism
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Of supporting global terrorism and having had ties to hamas
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And having had ties to hamas care says.
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Care says. the governor's declaration has
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The governor's declaration has no basis.
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No basis. the declaration means care
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The declaration means care purchase property in the state
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Purchase property in the state and it gives the state attorney
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And it gives the state attorney authority to take action.
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Authority to take action. in 2008 the us government
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In 2008 the us government listed care as an unindicted
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Listed care as an unindicted coconspirator in the conviction
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Coconspirator in the conviction of the holy land foundation for
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Of the holy land foundation for providing hamas of dollars.
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Providing hamas of dollars. >> congress passed legislation
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>> congress passed legislation requiring the justice
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Requiring the justice department to release the files
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Department to release the files of its investigation.
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Of its investigation. jeffrey epstein.
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Jeffrey epstein. it comes after months of
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It comes after months of opposing the release.
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Opposing the release. president donald trump said he
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President donald trump said he will sign the bill.
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Will sign the bill. brody carter has story.
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Brody carter has story. >> as many of us who are
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>> as many of us who are looking our program know that
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Looking our program know that the senate has passed a bill
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The senate has passed a bill and a unanimous lawmakers moved
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And a unanimous lawmakers moved quickly tuesday voting to
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Quickly tuesday voting to require the justice to release
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Require the justice to release the jeffrey epstein files a
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The jeffrey epstein files a watershed moment for survivors
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Watershed moment for survivors after years of calls for
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After years of calls for transparency.
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Transparency. >> i everybody sees us today as
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>> i everybody sees us today as grown adults but we are
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Grown adults but we are fighting for the children that
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Fighting for the children that were abandoned and left behind.
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Were abandoned and left behind. >> in the reckoning the yays
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>> in the reckoning the yays are 427 the nays one.
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Are 427 the nays one. >> a nearly unanimous vote
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>> a nearly unanimous vote except for one lone no vote
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Except for one lone no vote from republican clay higgins of
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From republican clay higgins of louisiana who opposed it on
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Louisiana who opposed it on privacy grounds for victims and
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Privacy grounds for victims and subjects of investigation who
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Subjects of investigation who are not criminally implicated.
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Are not criminally implicated. >> well, mr. president, donald
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>> well, mr. president, donald trump tried to cover up for
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Trump tried to cover up for jeffrey epstein long enough.
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Jeffrey epstein long enough. >> the senate quickly approved
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>> the senate quickly approved the bill and it will head to
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The bill and it will head to the president who has said
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The president who has said he'll sign it.
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He'll sign it. a change of direction he made
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A change of direction he made earlier this week after long
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Earlier this week after long calling for the files a
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Calling for the files a democratic hoax.
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Democratic hoax. >> i'm all for we've already
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>> i'm all for we've already given 50,000 pages.
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Given 50,000 pages. >> you do know that on cbn's
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>> you do know that on cbn's faith nation chief political
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Faith nation chief political analyst david brody said the
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Analyst david brody said the president to get this behind
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President to get this behind him.
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Him. politics you know the deal
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Politics you know the deal right when the train to leave
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Right when the train to leave the station you get on board
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The station you get on board that train and now let's be
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That train and now let's be honest i mean the president
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Honest i mean the president might not want to hear this and
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Might not want to hear this and the white house may not want to
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The white house may not want to hear this but that's exactly
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Hear this but that's exactly happened.
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Happened. >> the push for transparency is
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>> the push for transparency is already having consequences.
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Already having consequences. summers the former harvard
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Summers the former harvard president and treasury
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President and treasury secretary in the clinton
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Secretary in the clinton administration announced he's
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Administration announced he's stepping back from the public
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Stepping back from the public saying in a statement he's
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Saying in a statement he's deeply ashamed for staying in
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Deeply ashamed for staying in contact.
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Contact. epstein pled guilty to
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Epstein pled guilty to soliciting a minor for
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Soliciting a minor for prostitution 2008.
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Prostitution 2008. >> the doj has 30 days to
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>> the doj has 30 days to release all unclassified
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Release all unclassified material though attorney
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Material though attorney general pam can still withhold
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General pam can still withhold sensitive information related
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Sensitive information related to investigations.
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To investigations. brody carter, cbn news.
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Brody carter, cbn news. >> america is standing up for
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>> america is standing up for persecuted christians nigeria.
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Persecuted christians nigeria. it came at the united nations
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It came at the united nations tuesday.
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Tuesday. u.n. ambassador mike wallace
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U.n. ambassador mike wallace joined rapper and singer nicki
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Joined rapper and singer nicki minaj and a group of faith
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Minaj and a group of faith leaders to speak out for
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Leaders to speak out for religious freedom.
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Religious freedom. minaj spoke of the church's and
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Minaj spoke of the church's and christians driven from their
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Christians driven from their homes and killed while said an
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Homes and killed while said an entire faith is being erased
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Entire faith is being erased one bullet at a time,
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One bullet at a time, one torched bible at a time
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One torched bible at a time open doors.
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Open doors. a group that supports
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A group that supports persecuted christians says
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Persecuted christians says believers in nigeria are
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Believers in nigeria are targeted by militants.
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Targeted by militants. nigeria's president says the
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Nigeria's president says the government is working to
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Government is working to protect all religious
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Protect all religious minorities.
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Minorities. >> closer to home, thousands of
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>> closer to home, thousands of u.s. marines are now some 15
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U.s. marines are now some 15 miles off the shores of
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Miles off the shores of venezuela in one of the largest
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Venezuela in one of the largest military buildups in the
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Military buildups in the region.
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Region. cbn's wendy griffith has this
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Cbn's wendy griffith has this report.
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Report. >> as the u.s. military holds
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>> as the u.s. military holds in the region, president trump
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In the region, president trump is weighing his options saying
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Is weighing his options saying he's open to talks with
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He's open to talks with president nicolas maduro.
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President nicolas maduro. but action remains a
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But action remains a possibility.
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Possibility. >> admiral, i think we just
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>> admiral, i think we just have to take care of venezuela.
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Have to take care of venezuela. they dumped hundreds of people
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They dumped hundreds of people into our country from prisons.
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Into our country from prisons. >> the largest aircraft
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>> the largest aircraft carrier, the uss gerald ford is
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Carrier, the uss gerald ford is now in the caribbean as part of
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Now in the caribbean as part of what's being called the the
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What's being called the the largest military presence there
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Largest military presence there in decades.
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In decades. it comes as the u.s. conducts
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It comes as the u.s. conducts airstrikes on alleged drug
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Airstrikes on alleged drug boats.
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Boats. the administration says it has
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The administration says it has so far destroyed over 20
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So far destroyed over 20 vessels and killed more than 80
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Vessels and killed more than 80 people.
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People. the president says maduro is
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The president says maduro is responsible the intervention.
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Responsible the intervention. >> he's done tremendous damage
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>> he's done tremendous damage to primarily because of drugs.
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To primarily because of drugs. >> brad bowman senior director
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>> brad bowman senior director of the foundation for defense
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Of the foundation for defense of democracies told cnn's faith
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Of democracies told cnn's faith nation why he believes
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Nation why he believes president trump is flexing
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President trump is flexing america's military might.
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America's military might. >> the president at a minimum
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>> the president at a minimum is trying cast a shadow of
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Is trying cast a shadow of power, if you will, over the
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Power, if you will, over the negotiating table to get
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Negotiating table to get concessions from the maduro
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Concessions from the maduro regime.
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Regime. and he may be preparing for
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And he may be preparing for additional military action but
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Additional military action but it.
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It. it remains to be seen whether
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It remains to be seen whether they will conduct strikes
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They will conduct strikes inside which would be both
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Inside which would be both legally and politically a much
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Legally and politically a much more serious step than what
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More serious step than what we've already seen already with
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We've already seen already with the interdiction drug boats.
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The interdiction drug boats. >> venezuela's government
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>> venezuela's government alleges the real reason behind
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Alleges the real reason behind the u.s. military force is
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The u.s. military force is regime change.
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Regime change. i think i'd like to do is get
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I think i'd like to do is get maduro out, convince maduro
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Maduro out, convince maduro you're you're done.
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You're you're done. you were illegitimate.
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You were illegitimate. you stole the election.
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You stole the election. you don't belong there.
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You don't belong there. you're engaging in narcotics.
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You're engaging in narcotics. >> you've caused a
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>> you've caused a rollercoaster.
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Rollercoaster. you should leave.
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You should leave. meanwhile, ordered a massive
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Meanwhile, ordered a massive military call up of his own
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Military call up of his own some 200,000 troops while
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Some 200,000 troops while publicly calling for peace and
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Publicly calling for peace and proposing a face to face
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Proposing a face to face meeting with president.
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Meeting with president. wendy griffith, cbn news.
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Wendy griffith, cbn news. >> story we'll continue to
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>> story we'll continue to follow gordon.
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Follow gordon. i'll absolutely continue to
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I'll absolutely continue to follow it.
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Follow it. it's the largest military
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It's the largest military buildup by the us in this
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Buildup by the us in this hemisphere for literally four
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Hemisphere for literally four decades and to to see this is
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Decades and to to see this is this the monroe doctrine writ
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This the monroe doctrine writ large it is a echoes of teddy
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Large it is a echoes of teddy roosevelt speak softly but a
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Roosevelt speak softly but a big stick.
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Big stick. i think regime change.
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I think regime change. maduro absolutely stole the
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Maduro absolutely stole the election.
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Election. so are we that.
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So are we that. venezuela has been a problem
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Venezuela has been a problem for decades and the socialists
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For decades and the socialists there certainly hasn't worked
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There certainly hasn't worked and the mass exodus of people
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And the mass exodus of people and the extraordinary poverty
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And the extraordinary poverty there is frankly shocking given
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There is frankly shocking given the amount of natural resources
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The amount of natural resources they have.
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They have. so if they want to export that
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So if they want to export that problem to our shores i'm on
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Problem to our shores i'm on with for for now.
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With for for now. do we go to war?
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Do we go to war? i'm not so sure i would i would
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I'm not so sure i would i would be in favor of that.
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Be in favor of that. i just can't be in favor of
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I just can't be in favor of that kind of action.
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That kind of action. but what given what maduro has
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But what given what maduro has done and what he is doing to
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Done and what he is doing to enforce his own rule in i would
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Enforce his own rule in i would absolutely support all that
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Absolutely support all that needs to.
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Needs to. >> ashley well, still ahead,
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>> ashley well, still ahead, surviving unwanted divorce.
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Surviving unwanted divorce. best selling author lisa
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Best selling author lisa tucker's tour.
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Tucker's tour. hearst talks about the painful
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Hearst talks about the painful death of her almost 30 year
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Death of her almost 30 year marriage there.
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Marriage there. proverbs 31 president reveals
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Proverbs 31 president reveals what the bible really says
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What the bible really says about marriage divorce.
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About marriage divorce. that's later on today's 700
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That's later on today's 700 club.
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Club. and up up next, the man behind
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And up up next, the man behind what's been called the largest
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What's been called the largest ministry never heard of
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Ministry never heard of one hope has 2 billion children
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One hope has 2 billion children and teens with the gospel all
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And teens with the gospel all because founder bob hoskins
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Because founder bob hoskins said yes to god.
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Said yes to god. son rob talks about his
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Son rob talks about his father's ongoing legacy when we
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Father's ongoing legacy when we come.
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Come. >> israel has endured decades
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>> israel has endured decades of sorrow, terror and war and
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Of sorrow, terror and war and still she stands but today she
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Still she stands but today she remains surrounded by enemies
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Remains surrounded by enemies determined to wipe off the map.
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Determined to wipe off the map. right now your support brings
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Right now your support brings help to in need and shares
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Help to in need and shares israel's true story with world
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Israel's true story with world that needs to hear it.
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That needs to hear it. >> this is your moment to
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>> this is your moment to comfort god's people and remind
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Comfort god's people and remind them they are not alone.
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Times. book a free test call 800
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Book a free test call 800 6330088.
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6330088. >> tomorrow they gave me that
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>> tomorrow they gave me that security gave me that power.
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Security gave me that power. >> a teen turns to witchcraft
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>> a teen turns to witchcraft because nobody wants to mess
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Because nobody wants to mess with the witch and finds
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With the witch and finds herself in a battle for her
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Herself in a battle for her soul.
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Soul. >> he told me everything about
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>> he told me everything about myself and like how did he know
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Myself and like how did he know that?
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That? >> the fight between good and
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>> the fight between good and evil.
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Evil. >> we come against witchcraft.
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>> we come against witchcraft. we come and get to we come
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We come and get to we come against this.
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Against this. >> and i'm just like shaken on
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>> and i'm just like shaken on the next 700 cloth stay
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The next 700 cloth stay connected with cbn news all
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Connected with cbn news all across our platforms.
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Across our platforms. >> well every child.
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>> well every child. god's word.
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God's word. that's the mission of.
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That's the mission of. an extraordinary man of faith
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An extraordinary man of faith who received his calling from
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Who received his calling from as a child.
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As a child. bob hoskins launched the
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Bob hoskins launched the ministry one hope.
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Ministry one hope. nearly 40 years ago his goal
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Nearly 40 years ago his goal present every child with god's
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Present every child with god's word.
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Word. to date, one hopes materials
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To date, one hopes materials have reached 2 billion children
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Have reached 2 billion children and teens.
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And teens. bob started preaching as.
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Bob started preaching as. married in his twenties and
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Married in his twenties and became a missionary on several
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Became a missionary on several .
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. in 1987 he co-founded one hope
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In 1987 he co-founded one hope with his son rob.
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With his son rob. through his father's legacy
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Through his father's legacy book courageous hope rob shares
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Book courageous hope rob shares the life of this missionary
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The life of this missionary hero to inspire a new
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Hero to inspire a new generation rob rob hoskins
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Generation rob rob hoskins joins us now.
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Joins us now. zoom, you're in oklahoma city,
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Zoom, you're in oklahoma city, rob, so thank you so much being
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Rob, so thank you so much being with us on the seven hundred
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With us on the seven hundred club.
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Club. >> oh, what a joy gordon to be
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>> oh, what a joy gordon to be here with you today.
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Here with you today. it's so exciting to be able to
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It's so exciting to be able to continue to share story with
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Continue to share story with with so many people and thank
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With so many people and thank you for allowing me to be here
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You for allowing me to be here today.
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Today. >> well, as the son of a famous
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>> well, as the son of a famous father and you're the son
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Father and you're the son father, we've absolutely got a
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Father, we've absolutely got a bond.
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Bond. >> let's talk about that book
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>> let's talk about that book title your father has given us.
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Title your father has given us. i a wonderful book on the story
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I a wonderful book on the story of his life but title is so
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Of his life but title is so striking courageous hope.
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Striking courageous hope. what you want readers to take
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What you want readers to take away from the title.
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Away from the title. >> i think it really does
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>> i think it really does really exemplify dad's life,
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Really exemplify dad's life, his journey and how he was so
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His journey and how he was so faithful to say yes to the lord
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Faithful to say yes to the lord from the time he was a little
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From the time he was a little boy when very incredibly
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Boy when very incredibly supernaturally he had an
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Supernaturally he had an encounter with jesus and the
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Encounter with jesus and the lord told told him to start
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Lord told told him to start preaching and he told his
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Preaching and he told his parents that and they said
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Parents that and they said great.
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Great. we always that we would have a
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We always that we would have a son who would become a pastor
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Son who would become a pastor or an evangelist and he said no
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Or an evangelist and he said no right now i need to preach.
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Right now i need to preach. and it was amazing my was
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And it was amazing my was really wise i think and said
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Really wise i think and said well why don't you preach the
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Well why don't you preach the sermon to the pastor and if he
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Sermon to the pastor and if he says she can preach it then you
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Says she can preach it then you will and preached it to the
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Will and preached it to the pastor and that sunday he
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Pastor and that sunday he preached his first sermon at
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Preached his first sermon at the age of seven years old and
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The age of seven years old and it started an evangelistic
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It started an evangelistic ministry that has gone until
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Ministry that has gone until today.
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Today. he's 89 years old so he's been
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He's 89 years old so he's been faithful preaching the word of
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Faithful preaching the word of god for all decades.
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God for all decades. >> gordon well, it really got
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>> gordon well, it really got extreme for you you know, he
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Extreme for you you know, he started preaching as many as
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Started preaching as many as 300 times a year.
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300 times a year. >> what were those years like
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>> what were those years like for him?
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For him? >> well, i mean it was it was
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>> well, i mean it was it was in the fifties there were a few
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In the fifties there were a few what we would call child
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What we would call child evangelists that were traveling
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Evangelists that were traveling across and he was literally
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Across and he was literally traveling, you know, with
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Traveling, you know, with busses and tents preaching the
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Busses and tents preaching the thousands of people that were
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Thousands of people that were just shocked that a young child
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Just shocked that a young child could to communicate the word
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Could to communicate the word of god and so many people came
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Of god and so many people came to jesus days when he was just
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To jesus days when he was just a little boy.
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A little boy. and then at the age of 17 this
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And then at the age of 17 this is the courageous hope story
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Is the courageous hope story the lord spoke to him and
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The lord spoke to him and called him to a country he had
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Called him to a country he had never heard of called british
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Never heard of called british guyana.
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Guyana. and so he got on a plane at 17
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And so he got on a plane at 17 with a one way ticket to that
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With a one way ticket to that country with only $5.62 in his
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Country with only $5.62 in his pocket because he said yes to
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Pocket because he said yes to the lord again and it was
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The lord again and it was amazing god brought revival to
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Amazing god brought revival to that nation and.
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That nation and. he helped plant the assemblies
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He helped plant the assemblies of god there and it's one of
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Of god there and it's one of the strongest indigenous of god
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The strongest indigenous of god churches in the world in
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Churches in the world in british guyana because a 17
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British guyana because a 17 year old boy said yes to the
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Year old boy said yes to the lord and went with money but
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Lord and went with money but just courageous hope.
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Just courageous hope. >> well of the lessons my
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>> well of the lessons my father taught me if god tells
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Father taught me if god tells you to do something then by all
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You to do something then by all means do it and do it as soon
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Means do it and do it as soon as possible.
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As possible. don't delay in your response.
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Don't delay in your response. of the things that comes to us
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Of the things that comes to us so loud and clear from your
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So loud and clear from your father's book is he said yes to
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Father's book is he said yes to god several times.
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God several times. >> of the things i didn't know
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>> of the things i didn't know until i read the book that your
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Until i read the book that your parents were missionaries and
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Parents were missionaries and then very dangerous.
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Then very dangerous. were you aware of that when you
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Were you aware of that when you were growing?
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Were growing? >> i was very aware of it
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>> i was very aware of it because we were mainly in the
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Because we were mainly in the middle east and he was reaching
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Middle east and he was reaching the arab muslim world, planting
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The arab muslim world, planting churches in places where
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Churches in places where churches had never really been
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Churches had never really been planted before.
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Planted before. and so i spent actually the
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And so i spent actually the first 12 years of my life
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First 12 years of my life there.
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There. we were evacuated three times,
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We were evacuated three times, airlifted out of the country
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Airlifted out of the country several times.
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Several times. and yeah, we were well aware he
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And yeah, we were well aware he was actually in iraq and 12 of
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Was actually in iraq and 12 of his colleagues were hung there
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His colleagues were hung there while he was waiting in prison
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While he was waiting in prison and god miraculously released
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And god miraculously released him.
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Him. so this has been sort of a
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So this has been sort of a consistent story of dad's.
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Consistent story of dad's. when you say yes to god, it's
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When you say yes to god, it's not always easy.
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Not always easy. it's oftentimes times dangerous
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It's oftentimes times dangerous especially when he calls you to
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Especially when he calls you to the nations where mom and
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The nations where mom and dad and i remember those days i
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Dad and i remember those days i remember growing up up in bomb
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Remember growing up up in bomb shelters and being evacuated,
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Shelters and being evacuated, airlifted out as i said.
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Airlifted out as i said. so yeah, our family was on this
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So yeah, our family was on this journey with dad and gordon.
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Journey with dad and gordon. you know, i wouldn't trade it
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You know, i wouldn't trade it for anything.
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For anything. the memories i have the stories
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The memories i have the stories that our family tells or our
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That our family tells or our stories that have felt faith
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Stories that have felt faith for generations in our family
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For generations in our family that really allow us to to try
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That really allow us to to try and do audacious things for god
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And do audacious things for god .
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. and it came just through my
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And it came just through my dad living that life of of just
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Dad living that life of of just incredible faith and willing to
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Incredible faith and willing to stand up for danger.
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Stand up for danger. and so i'm just so proud of
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And so i'm just so proud of dad.
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Dad. he's 89, as you know, gordon
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He's 89, as you know, gordon he's in hospice right now.
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He's in hospice right now. i think he's probably watching
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I think he's probably watching us from there or else he'd be
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Us from there or else he'd be on the show today.
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On the show today. and so i just i'm just so glad
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And so i just i'm just so glad that everybody gets to finally
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That everybody gets to finally hear his story.
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Hear his story. he he never wanted to write a
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He he never wanted to write a story.
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Story. we talked him into it last year
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We talked him into it last year and so and then he was
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And so and then he was diagnosed with cancer.
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Diagnosed with cancer. so i'm so glad that he's told
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So i'm so glad that he's told his story in his own voice and
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His story in his own voice and i want the world to hear it.
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I want the world to hear it. i think we need it.
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I think we need it. >> well, i think it's really
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>> well, i think it's really true that it's not just story
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True that it's not just story but it's god's story and what
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But it's god's story and what god do when one person just
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God do when one person just says yes, okay, i'll do that.
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Says yes, okay, i'll do that. >> you're your father's life is
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>> you're your father's life is marked with some pretty radical
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Marked with some pretty radical turns so you know you have a
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Turns so you know you have a childhood of traveling ministry
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Childhood of traveling ministry tent ministry.
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Tent ministry. then you have a period of time
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Then you have a period of time where you're this pioneer in
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Where you're this pioneer in difficult and incredibly places
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Difficult and incredibly places on the on the earth and then
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On the on the earth and then everything yet again and that
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Everything yet again and that came through a revelation.
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Came through a revelation. so did the ministry of one hope
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So did the ministry of one hope begin?
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Begin? >> well, the the revelation
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>> well, the the revelation really came when we were in the
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Really came when we were in the middle east because he was a
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Middle east because he was a crusade evangelist and he
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Crusade evangelist and he really couldn't go on whole
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Really couldn't go on whole crusades.
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Crusades. and so we began to do we would
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And so we began to do we would call literature evangelism and
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Call literature evangelism and so we were sending gospels some
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So we were sending gospels some of the hardest to reach places
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Of the hardest to reach places in the world.
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In the world. and what we found is that
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And what we found is that people could find christ
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People could find christ without being in a crusade
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Without being in a crusade service or even without a
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Service or even without a church they could just read the
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Church they could just read the word of god and their lives
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Word of god and their lives were transformed and change.
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Were transformed and change. what our family realized in
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What our family realized in those days in the middle east
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Those days in the middle east was the power was not in the
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Was the power was not in the sower but the power was in the
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Sower but the power was in the seed and word of god.
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Seed and word of god. and so our our family just
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And so our our family just became committed providing
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Became committed providing god's word.
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God's word. and so we came back to the
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And so we came back to the states and they had really
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States and they had really built life publishers which
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Built life publishers which became the largest foreign
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Became the largest foreign language publisher and in the
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Language publisher and in the christian world.
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Christian world. but it was 1987 where god spoke
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But it was 1987 where god spoke to him again and my dad had had
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To him again and my dad had had a vision and he saw something
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A vision and he saw something he'd never seen before.
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He'd never seen before. he saw lost humanity that
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He saw lost humanity that particular day god showed him
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Particular day god showed him the children and youth of the
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The children and youth of the the world.
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The world. gordon and he saw the
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Gordon and he saw the incredible spiritual warfare,
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Incredible spiritual warfare, the weapons of warfare that
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The weapons of warfare that would be turned against this
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Would be turned against this generation.
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Generation. and boy have we seen that over
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And boy have we seen that over these last 30 years since he
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These last 30 years since he had that.
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Had that. >> and as my dad saw this you
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>> and as my dad saw this you saw child soldiers.
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Saw child soldiers. you you saw child prostitution.
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You you saw child prostitution. he saw kids in poverty.
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He saw kids in poverty. but most he saw kids without
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But most he saw kids without the good news and he said,
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The good news and he said, lord, what am i seeing and what
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Lord, what am i seeing and what do you want me to do?
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Do you want me to do? and the lord said the thing
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And the lord said the thing that will overcome these lies
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That will overcome these lies is truth.
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Is truth. my word is truth take my word
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My word is truth take my word and give it to every child in
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And give it to every child in the world.
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The world. and that was just a revelation
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And that was just a revelation to dad and to our family and
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To dad and to our family and our team.
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Our team. and so from that very day
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And so from that very day gordon we began to say how do
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Gordon we began to say how do we get god's word to every
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We get god's word to every child and young person in the
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Child and young person in the world and that's what we've
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World and that's what we've been doing now for 37 years.
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Been doing now for 37 years. >> there was one truth from
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>> there was one truth from your father's life that you
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Your father's life that you would want to share the world.
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Would want to share the world. >> what would that be?
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>> what would that be? i think it is that just pure
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I think it is that just pure obedience, you know gordon i
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Obedience, you know gordon i grew up in a missionary family
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Grew up in a missionary family .
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. the heroes in our home were
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The heroes in our home were william know was william carey
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William know was william carey and hudson taylor and ryan
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And hudson taylor and ryan judson these missionary heroes
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Judson these missionary heroes that would hear god's voice and
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That would hear god's voice and say yes whenever god asks them
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Say yes whenever god asks them to go no matter how far no
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To go no matter how far no matter how difficult and to
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Matter how difficult and to hear their courageous hope just
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Hear their courageous hope just really shaped my life and i.
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Really shaped my life and i. >> i just i just hope new
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>> i just i just hope new generation that would capture
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Generation that would capture the ability to hear the voice
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The ability to hear the voice of god and say yes to the holy
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Of god and say yes to the holy spirit because if we really
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Spirit because if we really believe that gordon i really
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Believe that gordon i really think the great commission will
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Think the great commission will be accomplished.
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Be accomplished. and so i'm really so excited
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And so i'm really so excited about dad's being made
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About dad's being made available.
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Available. i don't think we've had a lot
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I don't think we've had a lot of biographies of of missions
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Of biographies of of missions and it's why i love cbn so much
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And it's why i love cbn so much .
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. i love your family so much that
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I love your family so much that you are taking the message of
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You are taking the message of jesus and broadcasting it to
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Jesus and broadcasting it to the world.
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The world. our partnership with you and
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Our partnership with you and the superbook provide literally
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The superbook provide literally millions of children with the
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Millions of children with the good news for the first time in
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Good news for the first time in their lives.
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Their lives. so it's so amazing my dad such
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So it's so amazing my dad such a humble guy and and yet in the
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A humble guy and and yet in the midst of his humility there's
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Midst of his humility there's this boldness that has just
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This boldness that has just captured my heart.
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Captured my heart. i want the whole world to be
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I want the whole world to be able to i don't i don't believe
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Able to i don't i don't believe the great commission needs to
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The great commission needs to be a dream of a future
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Be a dream of a future generation.
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Generation. gordon i think it the reality
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Gordon i think it the reality of ours but god needs faithful
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Of ours but god needs faithful obedient people that will say
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Obedient people that will say yes to him no matter what he's
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Yes to him no matter what he's asking of them.
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Asking of them. >> well you've mentioned some
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>> well you've mentioned some of my heroes hudson taylor,
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Of my heroes hudson taylor, william carey, the great
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William carey, the great missionaries they were out of
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Missionaries they were out of england and the great century
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England and the great century of missions.
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Of missions. it just seems you know have we
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It just seems you know have we lost that in the united states
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Lost that in the united states too?
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Too? we still view ourselves as a
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We still view ourselves as a light to the nations.
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Light to the nations. those missionary biography were
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Those missionary biography were so popular in the 1950s, 1960s,
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So popular in the 1950s, 1960s, 1970s and my hope for your
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1970s and my hope for your father's book is it will ignite
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Father's book is it will ignite a flame for a whole new
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A flame for a whole new generation this generation z
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Generation this generation z that is so on fire lord you see
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That is so on fire lord you see it in college campuses that
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It in college campuses that they would the call but it's
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They would the call but it's not just for your own private
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Not just for your own private time with the lord you know
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Time with the lord you know let's take the message.
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Let's take the message. let's make sure we can finish
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Let's make sure we can finish the great commission in our
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The great commission in our generation that was the call of
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Generation that was the call of the student volunteer movement
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The student volunteer movement 100 years ago.
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100 years ago. can we can we have it be the
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Can we can we have it be the call today?
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Call today? it it would be such a
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It it would be such a difference maker and it i just
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Difference maker and it i just applaud you for encouraging
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Applaud you for encouraging your father to release this
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Your father to release this book and it's certainly it's
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Book and it's certainly it's going to join the ranks the
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Going to join the ranks the great missionary biographies
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Great missionary biographies what's your for one hope in the
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What's your for one hope in the coming five years?
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Coming five years? >> well, we were reminded we
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>> well, we were reminded we were celebrating our
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Were celebrating our 2,000,000,000th child reached
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2,000,000,000th child reached with the gospel and just
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With the gospel and just celebrating the fact that you
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Celebrating the fact that you know, really what seemed like a
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Know, really what seemed like a short time that 2 billion could
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Short time that 2 billion could be reached and god's vision was
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Be reached and god's vision was coming through and i was
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Coming through and i was preparing the celebration and i
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Preparing the celebration and i was in a time of prayer and all
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Was in a time of prayer and all of a sudden gordon just the
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Of a sudden gordon just the holy spirit touched me and
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Holy spirit touched me and said, you know, i ask you to
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Said, you know, i ask you to reach every child young person
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Reach every child young person in the world.
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In the world. you know there are 3 billion
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You know there are 3 billion people on the planet right now
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People on the planet right now gordon who have never even
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Gordon who have never even heard the name of jesus and
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Heard the name of jesus and conviction just begin to grip
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Conviction just begin to grip my heart again just like it had
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My heart again just like it had that dads for so many years and
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That dads for so many years and and the lord really spoke and
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And the lord really spoke and said i want you to do in the
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Said i want you to do in the next ten years what it's taken
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Next ten years what it's taken 35 years to accomplish.
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35 years to accomplish. and so that's our goal we
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And so that's our goal we believe by 2033 around the
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Believe by 2033 around the anniversary of jesus his death
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Anniversary of jesus his death and his call for his great
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And his call for his great commission and the day of
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Commission and the day of pentecost and the birth of the
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Pentecost and the birth of the church now thousand years later
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Church now thousand years later can you have the faith can you
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Can you have the faith can you have the courageous hope to
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Have the courageous hope to believe that you can reach 2
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Believe that you can reach 2 billion more children around
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Billion more children around the world with the gospel and
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The world with the gospel and it's audacious but it's going
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It's audacious but it's going to take courageous hope and
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To take courageous hope and it's going going to take all of
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It's going going to take all of us and so that's our goal.
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Us and so that's our goal. gordon between now and 2033 is
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Gordon between now and 2033 is to literally see 2 billion more
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To literally see 2 billion more children reached news of jesus
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Children reached news of jesus christ and see their lives
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Christ and see their lives transformed through the power
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Transformed through the power word.
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Word. >> oh rob all i can say as a
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>> oh rob all i can say as a man and a man i join with you
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Man and a man i join with you and let's let's do this and
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And let's let's do this and let's say yes to god.
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Let's say yes to god. let's yes to the great
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Let's yes to the great commission.
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Commission. >> rob, thank you so much.
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>> rob, thank you so much. thanks your father and your
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Thanks your father and your story.
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Story. it's a great encourage.
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It's a great encourage. well, gordon, i can't go away
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Well, gordon, i can't go away without saying one of the
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Without saying one of the favorite parts of the cover of
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Favorite parts of the cover of the book is that the foreword
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The book is that the foreword is written by gordon robertson
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Is written by gordon robertson .
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. thank you so much for being a
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Thank you so much for being a great friend to the ministry
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Great friend to the ministry and we love you so much and we
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And we love you so much and we love our partnership.
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Love our partnership. we couldn't literally not do it
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We couldn't literally not do it without cbn and you're your
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Without cbn and you're your family to be able to reach the
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Family to be able to reach the whole world with the good
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Whole world with the good news of jesus.
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News of jesus. >> of the great honors is when
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>> of the great honors is when your father contacted me and
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Your father contacted me and said could write an
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Said could write an endorsement.
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Endorsement. and so i said absolutely i'd do
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And so i said absolutely i'd do and then when i wrote it he
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And then when i wrote it he called back and i use it as a
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Called back and i use it as a foreword.
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Foreword. >> so i said okay, that was
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>> so i said okay, that was that.
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That. >> it was a great honor and
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>> it was a great honor and yeah, thank you.
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Yeah, thank you. we get to read the endorsement
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We get to read the endorsement then in the middle of reading
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Then in the middle of reading it to him he said you know
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It to him he said you know right i think this to the book
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Right i think this to the book so thanks for allowing us to do
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So thanks for allowing us to do that gordon.
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That gordon. right.
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Right. >> well rob, thanks for joining
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>> well rob, thanks for joining with us.
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With us. the book is coming.
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The book is coming. >> okay.
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>> okay. the book is called courageous
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The book is called courageous hope and it's available
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Hope and it's available wherever books are sold.
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Wherever books are sold. we mentioned william carey and
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We mentioned william carey and i've got to just add a little
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I've got to just add a little bit more on him.
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Bit more on him. 1795 was the year he went from
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1795 was the year he went from england.
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England. he was just a shoemaker.
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He was just a shoemaker. he went from england all to
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He went from england all to calcutta, india and he started
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Calcutta, india and he started a great missionary outreach off
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A great missionary outreach off of translating the bible into
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Of translating the bible into the languages of india and then
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The languages of india and then he created a printing the serum
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He created a printing the serum for press that launched an
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For press that launched an incredible outpouring of
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Incredible outpouring of missions from great britain
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Missions from great britain that goes on to this day same
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That goes on to this day same 7195 it was also the french
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7195 it was also the french revolution.
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Revolution. so you have countries divided
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So you have countries divided just by the english channel
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Just by the english channel spent the next 100 years and
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Spent the next 100 years and revolutions and dictators guy
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Revolutions and dictators guy named napoleon his family all
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Named napoleon his family all of that and they never achieved
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Of that and they never achieved the greatness the great did the
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The greatness the great did the same thing for america if our
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Same thing for america if our missionary heart the sense that
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Missionary heart the sense that we're a city on a hill we've
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We're a city on a hill we've lost something incredibly
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Lost something incredibly precious.
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Precious. >> but keep the flame burning
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>> but keep the flame burning let's keep sending the gospel
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Let's keep sending the gospel around the world.
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Around the world. that's our purpose.
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That's our purpose. that's our calling.
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That's our calling. and let's finish the great
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And let's finish the great commission.
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Commission. >> ashley great interview.
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>> ashley great interview. all right, everyone.
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All right, everyone. well, coming up, hope for those
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Well, coming up, hope for those suffering from the trauma of
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Suffering from the trauma of divorce.
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Divorce. lisa first shares her personal
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Marriage doesn't make you a in god's eyes.
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But the christian world and her millions fans and followers
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Millions fans and followers were shocked when her marriage
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Were shocked when her marriage of almost 29 years ended.
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Of almost 29 years ended. through the trials she and made
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Through the trials she and made it to the other side and now
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It to the other side and now she's others how they can too.
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She's others how they can too. >> new york times best selling
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>> new york times best selling author and president of
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Author and president of proverbs 31 ministries lisa
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Proverbs 31 ministries lisa tuckers never away from
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Tuckers never away from difficult or controversial
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Difficult or controversial topics in her writing.
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Topics in her writing. latest book surviving an
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Latest book surviving an unwanted divorce is a a
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Unwanted divorce is a a especially poignant.
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Especially poignant. she shares the raw
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She shares the raw heartbreaking details of the
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Heartbreaking details of the death of her 20 year marriage.
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Death of her 20 year marriage. yet true to form, lisa doesn't
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Yet true to form, lisa doesn't leave her readers lamenting the
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Leave her readers lamenting the pain and suffering of life.
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Pain and suffering of life. rather she provides a wise and
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Rather she provides a wise and compassionate roadmap through
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Compassionate roadmap through the devastation to recovery.
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The devastation to recovery. >> well, joining me right now
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>> well, joining me right now is the amazing lisa tucker.
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Is the amazing lisa tucker. lisa, thank you so much for
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Lisa, thank you so much for being with me today.
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Being with me today. oh, it's such an honor.
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Oh, it's such an honor. thank you.
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Thank you. have been following you for so
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Have been following you for so many years and i just love all
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Many years and i just love all the things that you're doing.
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The things that you're doing. it's really an honor and a
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It's really an honor and a blessing.
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Blessing. yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah, absolutely. well, let's just get right into
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Well, let's just get right into it.
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It. i mean after 29 almost 29, 30
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I mean after 29 almost 29, 30 years of marriage, the marriage
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Years of marriage, the marriage ended what what happened and
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Ended what what happened and what was that like for you?
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What was that like for you? >> the last ten years of my
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>> the last ten years of my previous marriage, you know, it
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Previous marriage, you know, it was it was a very busy season
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Was it was a very busy season first so i wasn't picking up on
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First so i wasn't picking up on all the red flags and things
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All the red flags and things that were deeply concerning.
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That were deeply concerning. we had five kids and they were
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We had five kids and they were all in big seasons of
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All in big seasons of transition.
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Transition. in our youngest was about to
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In our youngest was about to graduate high school
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Graduate high school transitioning into her next
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Transitioning into her next steps and then you know had
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Steps and then you know had several that were dating and
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Several that were dating and about to get engaged and then
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About to get engaged and then soon getting married and so
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Soon getting married and so there was a lot of transition
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There was a lot of transition of busyness.
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Of busyness. and so i could kind of
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And so i could kind of attribute some of the off
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Attribute some of the off things to to so many changes.
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Things to to so many changes. >> but the night before oldest
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>> but the night before oldest daughter's rehearsal dinner
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Daughter's rehearsal dinner that i was hosting at home it
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That i was hosting at home it was her big wedding weekend and
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Was her big wedding weekend and .
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. i found a burner phone and i
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I found a burner phone and i knew beyond of a doubt at that
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Knew beyond of a doubt at that point that it wasn't the season
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Point that it wasn't the season of transition that that was
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Of transition that that was concerning.
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Concerning. it was something much, much
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It was something much, much greater.
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Greater. so you know, as the story
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So you know, as the story unfolds finally i was told that
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Unfolds finally i was told that he had found someone else and
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He had found someone else and that he did not plan to stay
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That he did not plan to stay married to me.
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Married to me. then he was willing to go to
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Then he was willing to go to counseling and so for several
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Counseling and so for several years you know, we went through
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Years you know, we went through many intensive sessions of
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Many intensive sessions of counseling.
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Counseling. but in the end we even renewed
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But in the end we even renewed our vows one time.
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Our vows one time. i remember seeing that on
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I remember seeing that on social media.
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Social media. yeah.
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Yeah. and we have good months after
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And we have good months after that.
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That. but in the in the last year i
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But in the in the last year i decided just to take my hands
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Decided just to take my hands off and just let make whatever
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Off and just let make whatever choices he was going to make
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Choices he was going to make without my influence and in the
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Without my influence and in the end he did make his choice and
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End he did make his choice and i got the clarity i needed.
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I got the clarity i needed. >> it was not the clarity i
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>> it was not the clarity i wanted but i realized that i
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Wanted but i realized that i was going to experience the
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Was going to experience the death of my and so i always say
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Death of my and so i always say i didn't walk away but i did
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I didn't walk away but i did accept painful reality and and
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Accept painful reality and and faced a divorce which is
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Faced a divorce which is something i never wanted
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Something i never wanted attached to me and my family
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Attached to me and my family any of that.
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Any of that. yeah.
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Yeah. well, the new book is called
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Well, the new book is called survive unwanted divorce a
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Survive unwanted divorce a biblical practical guide to
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Biblical practical guide to letting go while holding
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Letting go while holding yourself together.
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Yourself together. you've said that you you had a
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You've said that you you had a book like this.
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Book like this. yes.
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Yes. when you were going through and
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When you were going through and all of the things you know what
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All of the things you know what were some of the questions that
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Were some of the questions that yourself were wrestling with
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Yourself were wrestling with that this book really goes
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That this book really goes after?
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After? well, one of the most important
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Well, one of the most important is what does the bible actually
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Is what does the bible actually say and does not say about
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Say and does not say about divorce know the one verse that
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Divorce know the one verse that many christians know is malachi
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Many christians know is malachi 216 god hates divorce.
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216 god hates divorce. and so had direct access to the
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And so had direct access to the theologian for me dr. joel
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Theologian for me dr. joel minimally and so i just said
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Minimally and so i just said can we please sit down and do
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Can we please sit down and do the biblical theology of
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The biblical theology of divorce which is not something
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Divorce which is not something i could find and i didn't want
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I could find and i didn't want bring my ideas to scriptures.
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Bring my ideas to scriptures. i wanted scripture to inform me
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I wanted scripture to inform me because i was devastated about
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Because i was devastated about this and that particular verse
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This and that particular verse when god hates divorce came
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When god hates divorce came about it was in the king james
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About it was in the king james version.
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Version. and so that wasn't the first
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And so that wasn't the first version of the bible in order
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Version of the bible in order to really the true meaning of
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To really the true meaning of that verse we had to go all the
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That verse we had to go all the way back to the septuagint
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Way back to the septuagint which is where the hebrew bible
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Which is where the hebrew bible was translated into greek and
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Was translated into greek and what that verse actually says
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What that verse actually says is when a man hates and
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Is when a man hates and divorces his wife he does
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Divorces his wife he does against someone he should
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Against someone he should protect that says the lord.
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Protect that says the lord. if you open up an esv and i be
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If you open up an esv and i be a csb you will see that you
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A csb you will see that you know proper and correct
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Know proper and correct definition or not definition of
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Definition or not definition of a translation of that verse.
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A translation of that verse. yeah there's just a big
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Yeah there's just a big difference between that and god
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Difference between that and god hates divorce.
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Hates divorce. >> now do i think hates what
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>> now do i think hates what divorce does the people?
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Divorce does the people? absolutely yeah.
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Absolutely yeah. but we don't want to be
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But we don't want to be weaponizing scripture
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Weaponizing scripture especially you know for someone
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Especially you know for someone like what i was going through
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Like what i was going through to have god hates divorce
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To have god hates divorce placed upon my my already hurt
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Placed upon my my already hurt and broken heart.
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And broken heart. it was just it a lot.
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It was just it a lot. so one of the things i'm most
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So one of the things i'm most proud about is writing this
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Proud about is writing this book and dr. joel minimally and
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Book and dr. joel minimally and i giving people a very correct
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I giving people a very correct understanding of scripture
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Understanding of scripture that's powerful.
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That's powerful. it really is.
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It really is. well, obviously, you know,
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Well, obviously, you know, there's a lot of of misguided
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There's a lot of of misguided messages for christian women
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Messages for christian women about being a godly wife that
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About being a godly wife that proverbs 31 woman.
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Proverbs 31 woman. what are some of those things
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What are some of those things and why do do you think that
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And why do do you think that they maybe contribute to people
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They maybe contribute to people staying in really toxic
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Staying in really toxic destructive marriages and
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Destructive marriages and relationships?
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Relationships? yeah.
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Yeah. my good friend leslie verna
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My good friend leslie verna taught me there's a big
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Taught me there's a big difference between a difficult
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Difference between a difficult marriage and a destructive
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Marriage and a destructive marriage.
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Marriage. so i happens sometimes is a
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So i happens sometimes is a difficult marriage is something
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Difficult marriage is something we absolutely fight for, you
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We absolutely fight for, you know, and maybe even it could
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Know, and maybe even it could be that it's a disappointing
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Be that it's a disappointing marriage.
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Marriage. it's not what you thought it
00:37:34.228 --> 00:37:34.795
It's not what you thought it was going to be but.
00:37:34.929 --> 00:37:36.697
Was going to be but. it is that is so good reason to
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It is that is so good reason to go to to counseling go to the
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Go to to counseling go to the conferences, read the books,
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Conferences, read the books, all of that but can't take the
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All of that but can't take the same advice we would give to
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Same advice we would give to somebody who's in a
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Somebody who's in a disappointing difficult
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Disappointing difficult relationship and put that same
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Relationship and put that same advice on someone who's who's
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Advice on someone who's who's then a destructive relationship
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Then a destructive relationship where one person has not just
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Where one person has not just that they made a mistake.
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That they made a mistake. there's grace for a mistake but
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There's grace for a mistake but when a mistake is really not
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When a mistake is really not isolated it becomes a pattern
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Isolated it becomes a pattern of destructive behaviors and
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Of destructive behaviors and that person is no longer
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That person is no longer seeking their spouses highest
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Seeking their spouses highest good.
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Good. i think we've got to make sure
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I think we've got to make sure to realize we're not just with.
00:38:10.564 --> 00:38:13.067
To realize we're not just with. read the books.
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Read the books. go to conferences.
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Go to conferences. we need trained professional to
00:38:14.201 --> 00:38:17.338
We need trained professional to step in and help and i'm
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Step in and help and i'm passionate about sharing my
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Passionate about sharing my story and i don't share of the
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Story and i don't share of the details of my story.
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Details of my story. but what i do want is give
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But what i do want is give women an understanding do we
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Women an understanding do we want to be encouraging wives
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Want to be encouraging wives but we don't want to excuse bad
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But we don't want to excuse bad behavior and we don't want to
00:38:32.620 --> 00:38:36.657
Behavior and we don't want to just keep dealing with it
00:38:36.790 --> 00:38:37.324
Just keep dealing with it because it quite destructive
00:38:37.458 --> 00:38:40.761
Because it quite destructive and we need to be honest about
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And we need to be honest about that.
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That. right.
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Right. well, a quote from your book it
00:38:42.296 --> 00:38:43.631
Well, a quote from your book it says respecting him should not
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Says respecting him should not mean covering things up for
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Mean covering things up for him.
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Him. >> that's right.
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>> that's right. and sometimes we get confused
00:38:48.335 --> 00:38:48.936
And sometimes we get confused again as christian wives, you
00:38:49.069 --> 00:38:51.772
Again as christian wives, you know, it's like well, aren't we
00:38:51.906 --> 00:38:52.573
Know, it's like well, aren't we supposed to lay down our life
00:38:52.706 --> 00:38:53.307
Supposed to lay down our life and jesus modeled that and it's
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And jesus modeled that and it's yes, jesus laid down his life,
00:38:56.277 --> 00:38:59.146
Yes, jesus laid down his life, accomplish a high and holy
00:38:59.280 --> 00:38:59.813
Accomplish a high and holy purpose but he did not lay down
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Purpose but he did not lay down his life to enable bad behavior
00:39:00.714 --> 00:39:03.551
His life to enable bad behavior to continue.
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To continue. yeah.
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Yeah. amen to that sister.
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Amen to that sister. well, good news.
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Well, good news. you are remarried and you found
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You are remarried and you found man of god.
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Man of god. can we just talk about that for
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Can we just talk about that for a little bit?
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A little bit? you got remarried in 2024.
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You got remarried in 2024. that's right.
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That's right. and using it amazing.
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And using it amazing. and you know, i love being a
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And you know, i love being a marriage now where i feel
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Marriage now where i feel treasured and cherished.
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Treasured and cherished. that has been a beautiful part
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That has been a beautiful part of my redemption story.
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Of my redemption story. but i always tell people my new
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But i always tell people my new husband his name i always say
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Husband his name i always say chaz is not the redemption
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Chaz is not the redemption story.
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Story. the redemption story is that i
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The redemption story is that i made it out on the other side
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Made it out on the other side of a horrific season a long
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Of a horrific season a long hurtful season and i still have
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Hurtful season and i still have my hands raised and i still
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My hands raised and i still proclaim the goodness and i'm
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Proclaim the goodness and i'm still passionate about what the
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Still passionate about what the enemy took for evil.
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Enemy took for evil. god can use for good.
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God can use for good. that's the redemption story
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That's the redemption story that yes, a part of that
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That yes, a part of that redemption story is that god
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Redemption story is that god has brought me an amazing,
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Has brought me an amazing, wonderful man who loves me and
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Wonderful man who loves me and who treasures and who is so
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Who treasures and who is so patitient with my journey of
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Patitient with my journey of continued healing.
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Continued healing. absolutely.
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Absolutely. i love that he is part of the
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I love that he is part of the redemption story.
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Redemption story. well, okay, last question.
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Well, okay, last question. you know, what do you want for
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You know, what do you want for people who might be watching
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People who might be watching this women men who are
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This women men who are experiencing unwanted divorce.
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Experiencing unwanted divorce. this was not something that
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This was not something that they wanted, not something that
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They wanted, not something that they saw in their future.
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They saw in their future. you know, what word of
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You know, what word of encouragement would you give to
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Encouragement would you give to them but also family and
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Them but also family and friends who know somebody who's
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Friends who know somebody who's going through an unwanted maybe
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Going through an unwanted maybe some encouragement for those
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Some encouragement for those people as well?
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People as well? >> yeah, i would say family and
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>> yeah, i would say family and friends who want to support
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Friends who want to support someone that they love very
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Someone that they love very much going through an unwanted
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Much going through an unwanted divorce get this book surviving
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Divorce get this book surviving and and then want a divorce and
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And and then want a divorce and read it alongside them because
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Read it alongside them because i think it'll be great to make
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I think it'll be great to make sure we're not weaponizing
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Sure we're not weaponizing versus against who already has
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Versus against who already has a broken heart.
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A broken heart. so that's not advice for
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So that's not advice for someone who's walking through
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Someone who's walking through an unwanted divorce.
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An unwanted divorce. just remember today's not the
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Just remember today's not the whole story.
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Whole story. you know it's going to seem
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You know it's going to seem like this is a devastating life
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Like this is a devastating life altering event and it is it is
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Altering event and it is it is devastating and it's life
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Devastating and it's life altering but it doesn't have to
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Altering but it doesn't have to be ruining and just because
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Be ruining and just because we've been hurt does not mean
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We've been hurt does not mean we want to live hurt.
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We want to live hurt. so do the precious and holy
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So do the precious and holy work of healing and don't wait
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Work of healing and don't wait for the person to say that
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For the person to say that they're sorry because they may
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They're sorry because they may never own what they did and
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Never own what they did and they.
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They. they may never say they're
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They may never say they're sorry.
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Sorry. so detach your ability to heal
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So detach your ability to heal from choices they may never
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From choices they may never make and walk forward and put a
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Make and walk forward and put a stake in the ground say i
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Stake in the ground say i deserve to stop suffering
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Deserve to stop suffering because of what another person
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Because of what another person has done to me do the good holy
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Has done to me do the good holy work of forgiveness and healing
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Work of forgiveness and healing and just because your life
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And just because your life looks different doesn't mean
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Looks different doesn't mean it's bad.
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It's bad. it's different.
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It's different. amen.
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Amen. oh my goodness.
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Oh my goodness. lisa, thank you so much for
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Lisa, thank you so much for being with us today and thank
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Being with us today and thank you for this book.
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You for this book. i know it's really, really
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I know it's really, really going to impact a lot of lives
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Going to impact a lot of lives so thank you so much.
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So thank you so much. all right, everyone will lisa's
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All right, everyone will lisa's latest book is titled surviving
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Latest book is titled surviving an unwanted divorce.
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That's 184446596 five. >> welcome back to the seven
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>> welcome back to the seven under club for this cbn
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Under club for this cbn news break a florida christian
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News break a florida christian lost a legal fight over pregame
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Lost a legal fight over pregame prayer cambridge school asked
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Prayer cambridge school asked the supreme court to overturn
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The supreme court to overturn its ruling from twin.
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Its ruling from twin. it found student led and
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It found student led and initiated prayer at football
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Initiated prayer at football games unconstitutional.
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Games unconstitutional. >> the school sought to
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>> the school sought to broadcast a pre ranked pregame
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Broadcast a pre ranked pregame prayer over the stadium's
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Prayer over the stadium's loudspeaker.
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Loudspeaker. the declined to hear their
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The declined to hear their appeal leaving in place the 20
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Appeal leaving in place the 20 the 25 year old decision the
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The 25 year old decision the campus ministry unite us
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Campus ministry unite us continues to bring gospel to
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Continues to bring gospel to gen z on college campuses.
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Gen z on college campuses. more than 6000 people turned
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More than 6000 people turned out for worship, prayer and
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Out for worship, prayer and preaching at clemson university
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Preaching at clemson university last night the ministry reports
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Last night the ministry reports hundreds of lives changed at
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Hundreds of lives changed at the event and 78 baptisms.
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The event and 78 baptisms. cbn news has produced a
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Cbn news has produced a documentary on how the lord is
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Documentary on how the lord is working in the lives of these
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Working in the lives of these students.
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Students. it's called revival generation.
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It's called revival generation. you can find out how to watch
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You can find out how to watch it at our website at the
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It at our website at the website the revival generation
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Abc.com. >> want to remind you you can
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>> want to remind you you can always get the latest from cbn
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Always get the latest from cbn news by going to our website at
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Cbsnews.com. gordon ashley are back with
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Gordon ashley are back with much of today's 700 club.
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Much of today's 700 club. >> it's all coming up right
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>> kunal was constantly bullied at school by class who called
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At school by class who called him blind boy congenital
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Him blind boy congenital cataracts in both made him
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Cataracts in both made him dependent on others for almost
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Dependent on others for almost everything but not more.
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Everything but not more. >> all thanks to you.
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>> all thanks to you. kunal goes to school in central
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Kunal goes to school in central india.
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India. he could barely see what was
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He could barely see what was being taught because he was
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Being taught because he was born cataracts in both eyes.
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Born cataracts in both eyes. >> kunal would tilt his head or
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>> kunal would tilt his head or bring the book very close to
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Bring the book very close to his eyes just to to read.
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His eyes just to to read. >> it was heartbreaking to
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>> it was heartbreaking to watch.
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Watch. >> also faced constant bullying
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>> also faced constant bullying due to his poor vision.
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Due to his poor vision. >> how long was kunal would
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>> how long was kunal would come home in tears seeing his
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Come home in tears seeing his call him blind.
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Call him blind. but it was true that he was in
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But it was true that he was in dependent on someone else for
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Dependent on someone else for every ten she took him to a
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Every ten she took him to a hospital to see about getting
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Hospital to see about getting cataract surgeries but as a
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Cataract surgeries but as a single mother on a limited
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Single mother on a limited income she lost hope.
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Income she lost hope. they told me his surgeries
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They told me his surgeries would cost $400 but i only
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Would cost $400 but i only owned $35 a month as a maid.
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Owned $35 a month as a maid. i couldn't even dream affording
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I couldn't even dream affording it.
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It. >> then she heard about an
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>> then she heard about an operation blessing camp that
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Operation blessing camp that came to her area.
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Came to her area. we connected her with our
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We connected her with our partner hospital where who now
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Partner hospital where who now underwent his cataract
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Underwent his cataract surgeries.
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Surgeries. three of george to me.
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Three of george to me. >> what i up the transformation
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>> what i up the transformation is amazing.
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Is amazing. kunal can now read the
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Kunal can now read the blackboard from a distance.
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Blackboard from a distance. the entire school staff is
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The entire school staff is thrilled to see his progress.
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Thrilled to see his progress. >> i am overjoyed.
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>> i am overjoyed. see my son living a normal
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See my son living a normal life.
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Life. he is doing good in school,
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He is doing good in school, walking by himself, playing
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Walking by himself, playing with his friends and exploring
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With his friends and exploring the world around him.
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The world around him. >> thank you from the bottom of
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>> thank you from the bottom of my heart you have given my son
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My heart you have given my son a bright future that is thanks
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A bright future that is thanks to our amazing cbn 700 club
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To our amazing cbn 700 club partners.
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Partners. we just say thank you for being
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We just say thank you for being generous and thank you for
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Generous and thank you for wanting to be a blessing to
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Wanting to be a blessing to others.
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Others. you know if you're watching
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You know if you're watching this and gosh is just moving in
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This and gosh is just moving in your heart i would just say
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Your heart i would just say follow that.
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Follow that. if you're not a cbn 700 club
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If you're not a cbn 700 club partner i would say become
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One today because when you do you are going to change the
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You are going to change the lives of so many people around
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Lives of so many people around the world you're going to help
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The world you're going to help people in real ways like you
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People in real ways like you just saw in kunal story but
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Just saw in kunal story but more than that you're helping
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More than that you're helping spread the message of hope and
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Spread the message of hope and love.
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Love. the message of the gospel the
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The message of the gospel the message of jesus christ to the
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Message of jesus christ to the ends of the earth.
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Ends of the earth. so if you want to be of
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International which helps provide changing surgeries like
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You just saw. not only that but helps provide
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Not only that but helps provide disaster relief internationally
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Disaster relief internationally but also domestically helps
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Provide clean water programs. food programs helps orphans and
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Widows and families around the world and again helps spread
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World and again helps spread the message of gospel around
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The message of gospel around the world.
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The world. so if you want to be a part of
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Favorite as i always to say i think it's the simplest.
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Think it's the simplest. >> pull out your smartphone and
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To get a text message with a link click that link going to
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Link click that link going to send you over to our giving
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Send you over to our giving page where from me you can
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Page where from me you can choose whatever level you would
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Choose whatever level you would like to become a cbn's 700 club
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Like to become a cbn's 700 club partner at whatever level you
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Partner at whatever level you you become a partner we're
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You become a partner we're going to send you something in
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Going to send you something in return.
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Return. this is our way of saying thank
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This is our way of saying thank you.
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You. it's our latest devotional
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It's our latest devotional teaching.
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Teaching. it's called seven steps to
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It's called seven steps to spiritual renewal.
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Spiritual renewal. it is a 35 day devotional
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It is a 35 day devotional teaching.
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Teaching. it takes you through scripture
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It takes you through scripture and prompting us it's all based
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And prompting us it's all based on the scripture we find in
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On the scripture we find in second chronicles seven four
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Second chronicles seven four and 14 if my people who are
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And 14 if my people who are called by my name will humble
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Called by my name will humble themselves and pray seek my
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Themselves and pray seek my face turn from their ways, then
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Face turn from their ways, then i will hear from heaven and
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I will hear from heaven and forgive their sin and heal
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Forgive their sin and heal their land.
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Their land. so if you want this teaching
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So if you want this teaching and addition to teachings from
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And addition to teachings from all of the 700 club hosts
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All of the 700 club hosts talking about this seven steps
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Talking about this seven steps become a cbn partner today.
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Give us a call 800 707,000. >> well up next we're going to
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>> well up next we're going to bring it on with your email.
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Bring it on with your email. patricia writes i'm so and
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Patricia writes i'm so and tired of different teachings
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Tired of different teachings regarding the rapture or before
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Regarding the rapture or before tribulations.
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Tribulations. point five years after the
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Point five years after the beginning of tribulation at the
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Beginning of tribulation at the last trumpet which is it?
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Last trumpet which is it? >> wow.
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>> wow. ashley key is going to tackle
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Ashley key is going to tackle patricia's question and then
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Patricia's question and then argue with me.
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Argue with me. it's going to be riveting right
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It's going to be riveting right after this.
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After this. we are not promised tomorrow.
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We are not promised tomorrow. tomorrow not promised for us.
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Tomorrow not promised for us. so i think it's always
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So i think it's always necessary.
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Necessary. it's always going to benefit us
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It's always going to benefit us in such profound ways to grow
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In such profound ways to grow our relationship with the lord
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Our relationship with the lord and a devotional like this
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And a devotional like this seven steps to spiritual
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Seven steps to spiritual renewal will help you grow
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Renewal will help you grow deeper your relationship with
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Deeper your relationship with jesus.
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Jesus. >> call now or go to cbs
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>> call now or go to cbs cbn.com to get seven steps to
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Cbn.com to get seven steps to spiritual renewal.
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Spiritual renewal. >> it's the season for
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>> it's the season for gathering gratitude.
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Gathering gratitude. but for countless others the
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But for countless others the holidays can still be a time of
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Holidays can still be a time of hunger and despair.
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Hunger and despair. >> you can give hope even with
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>> you can give hope even with the simple comfort a warm meal
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The simple comfort a warm meal and the knowledge that someone
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And the knowledge that someone cares.
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Cares. at cbn we believe in giving
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At cbn we believe in giving thanks by giving hope.
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Thanks by giving hope. >> through generosity this year
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>> through generosity this year we invite you to join a
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We invite you to join a cherished robertson family
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Cherished robertson family tradition estimating the cost
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Tradition estimating the cost of your own holiday meal and
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Of your own holiday meal and giving an equal to help cbn
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Giving an equal to help cbn bless those in urgent need your
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Bless those in urgent need your gift will provide groceries
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Gift will provide groceries essentials and share the good
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Essentials and share the good news.
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News. >> transforming lives and
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>> transforming lives and bringing light to spiritual
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Bringing light to spiritual darkness.
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Darkness. so please give what you'd spend
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So please give what you'd spend on your own holiday meal.
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On your own holiday meal. >> call or visit cbn dcoms give
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>> call or visit cbn dcoms give to today and see what your gift
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>> call or visit cbn dcoms give to today and see what your gift
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To today and see what your gift can do.
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Can do. >> hey everyone welcome back to
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>> hey everyone welcome back to the show and will be answering
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The show and will be answering this riveting question from
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This riveting question from patricia and i know i'm not
00:49:35.827 --> 00:49:40.165
Patricia and i know i'm not well-versed in eschatology so.
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Well-versed in eschatology so. i want to let you know private
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I want to let you know private conversations.
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Conversations. all right.
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All right. well, the question is i'm so
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Well, the question is i'm so sick and tired of different
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Sick and tired of different teachings regarding the rapture
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Teachings regarding the rapture before tribulation three and a
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Before tribulation three and a half years after the beginning
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Half years after the beginning and others at the last trumpet
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And others at the last trumpet which is it my father taught
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Which is it my father taught that it was after the
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That it was after the tribulation and he did an
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Tribulation and he did an examination of the scriptures
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Examination of the scriptures and came to the conclusion that
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And came to the conclusion that we should never assume that
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We should never assume that somehow we're going to get a
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Somehow we're going to get a free pass from it.
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Free pass from it. the tribulation that the early
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The tribulation that the early church went through we're
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Church went through we're seeing a resumption of that in
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Seeing a resumption of that in today's world.
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Today's world. so tell the christians of
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So tell the christians of nigeria well don't worry you're
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Nigeria well don't worry you're going to be saved from this.
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Going to be saved from this. well, they're right through it
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Well, they're right through it right now to tell the
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Right now to tell the christians in who have suffered
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Christians in who have suffered for a period with persecution
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For a period with persecution for thousands of years you just
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For thousands of years you just kind of go wait a minute now
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Kind of go wait a minute now all of that said, i don't think
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All of that said, i don't think it's worthwhile to get into
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It's worthwhile to get into doctrinal disputes about this
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Doctrinal disputes about this and i point newton here's the
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And i point newton here's the guy who invented calculus and
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Guy who invented calculus and he it so that he could describe
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He it so that he could describe the motion of the planets he
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The motion of the planets he discovered all of these amazing
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Discovered all of these amazing mathematicians literally
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Mathematicians literally invented modern physics.
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Invented modern physics. >> he spent 20 years of his
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>> he spent 20 years of his life trying to figure out
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Life trying to figure out revelation.
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Revelation. >> i would rather spend time
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>> i would rather spend time getting people saved.
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Getting people saved. you know i've read the end of
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You know i've read the end of the book.
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The book. >> you know there's going to be
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>> you know there's going to be this great celebration in
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This great celebration in heaven.
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Heaven. let's try to make that as big
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Let's try to make that as big as possible.
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As possible. and so my time instead of
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And so my time instead of trying to figure out what's
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Trying to figure out what's coming, you know, what are the
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Coming, you know, what are the signs all of those things he
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Signs all of those things he told me don't do that.
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Told me don't do that. he said nobody knows.
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He said nobody knows. only the father knows.
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Only the father knows. i don't even know.
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I don't even know. .
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. so if jesus doesn't even know
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So if jesus doesn't even know i'm going to spend my doing
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I'm going to spend my doing what he has commanded me to do
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What he has commanded me to do which is the gospel.
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Which is the gospel. >> amen to that.
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>> amen to that. i think it takes it takes our
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I think it takes it takes our eyes off of what really matters
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Eyes off of what really matters which is being in the present
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Which is being in the present with the so yeah yeah.
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With the so yeah yeah. >> all right well how many i
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>> all right well how many i don't know how long.
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Don't know how long. okay so this is a man of shows
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Okay so this is a man of shows she said i grew the 700 club
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She said i grew the 700 club with my parents.
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With my parents. >> i remember that pat
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>> i remember that pat robertson would often say that
00:51:49.661 --> 00:51:50.261
Robertson would often say that children ask the most difficult
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Children ask the most difficult questions.
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Questions. i never quite understand what
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I never quite understand what he meant until i became mother
00:51:53.398 --> 00:51:55.733
He meant until i became mother nine years ago.
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Nine years ago. google is not helpful here.
00:51:56.334 --> 00:51:56.868
Google is not helpful here. this is from everett.
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This is from everett. >> he's asking do angels sit?
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>> he's asking do angels sit? okay.
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Okay. >> scripture helps.
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>> scripture helps. here's john 2011 with her 12
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Here's john 2011 with her 12 mary stood outside the tomb
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Mary stood outside the tomb weeping, looked and she saw two
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Weeping, looked and she saw two angels in white sitting.
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Angels in white sitting. so scripture says angel said
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So scripture says angel said you can take that back to your
00:52:17.555 --> 00:52:18.389
You can take that back to your wonderful child and say here's
00:52:18.523 --> 00:52:21.960
Wonderful child and say here's the answer.
00:52:22.093 --> 00:52:22.360
The answer. here's a word from isaiah.
00:52:22.493 --> 00:52:23.027
Here's a word from isaiah. you will keep him in peace.
00:52:23.161 --> 00:52:25.863
You will keep him in peace. >> his mind has stayed on you
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>> his mind has stayed on you tomorrow.
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Tomorrow. >> they gave me that security.
00:52:33.638 --> 00:52:34.272
>> they gave me that security. you gave me that power.
00:52:34.405 --> 00:52:34.939
You gave me that power. i turns to witchcraft because
00:52:35.073 --> 00:52:37.375
I turns to witchcraft because nobody wants to mess with the
00:52:37.508 --> 00:52:38.109
Nobody wants to mess with the witch finds herself in a battle
00:52:38.242 --> 00:52:40.612
Witch finds herself in a battle for her soul.
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For her soul. >> he told me everything about
00:52:44.382 --> 00:52:45.083
>> he told me everything about myself and i was like how did
00:52:45.216 --> 00:52:47.986
Myself and i was like how did he know that the fight between
00:52:48.119 --> 00:52:48.820
He know that the fight between good and we come against
00:52:48.953 --> 00:52:52.390
Good and we come against witchcraft will come again to
00:52:52.523 --> 00:52:53.124
Witchcraft will come again to coals we come against this.
00:52:53.257 --> 00:52:55.193
Coals we come against this. >> and i'm just like shaken.
00:52:55.326 --> 00:52:56.060
>> and i'm just like shaken. on the next 700 clock i said
00:52:56.194 --> 00:52:56.998

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