Allen Jackson - Israel, God's People, and The Nations

October 25, 2025 | 28:35

Pastor Allen Jackson's mission is to help people become fully devoted followers of Jesus Christ.

Closed captions

Show Timecode
Allen Jackson Ministries | Allen Jackson - Israel, God's People, and The Nations | October 25, 2025
  • ...
  • 00:00:00.633 --> 00:00:01.316
  • Allen jackson: you know, we're witnessing something of a
  • 00:00:06.655 --> 00:00:08.190
  • Crisis in our nation, something i never thought i would see:
  • 00:00:08.190 --> 00:00:11.560
  • Expressions of antisemitism, hatred for the jewish people
  • 00:00:11.560 --> 00:00:15.130
  • Coming from america, coming from the christian community,
  • 00:00:15.130 --> 00:00:18.700
  • The conservative side of the ideological spectrum to a degree
  • 00:00:18.700 --> 00:00:22.104
  • And scope i've never seen before.
  • 00:00:22.104 --> 00:00:24.406
  • Well, it's important enough that i stopped and put
  • 00:00:24.406 --> 00:00:26.208
  • Together a book.
  • 00:00:26.208 --> 00:00:27.543
  • The title of it is "supporting israel: how far is too far?"
  • 00:00:27.543 --> 00:00:31.613
  • It's an important concept.
  • 00:00:31.613 --> 00:00:33.015
  • It isn't political.
  • 00:00:33.015 --> 00:00:34.349
  • It's grounded in a biblical worldview.
  • 00:00:34.349 --> 00:00:36.452
  • I think we need to understand our responsibilities to the
  • 00:00:36.452 --> 00:00:39.054
  • Jewish people, to the modern state of israel,
  • 00:00:39.054 --> 00:00:41.890
  • Not from an ideological perspective,
  • 00:00:41.890 --> 00:00:43.659
  • Not from the perspective of nation states,
  • 00:00:43.659 --> 00:00:45.861
  • But as people of god.
  • 00:00:45.861 --> 00:00:47.830
  • It's important, it's an important season.
  • 00:00:47.830 --> 00:00:49.298
  • A lot of voices--you know, i know there's some fatigue with
  • 00:00:49.298 --> 00:00:52.034
  • The conflict in the middle east, but we can't afford to be
  • 00:00:52.034 --> 00:00:54.570
  • Fatigued with our assignments to honor god and the
  • 00:00:54.570 --> 00:00:57.172
  • Responsibilities that come with that.
  • 00:00:57.172 --> 00:00:59.274
  • I believe the book will be a help to you.
  • 00:00:59.274 --> 00:01:01.143
  • I believe it'll help you navigate the conversation with
  • 00:01:01.143 --> 00:01:03.412
  • Your family and your friends.
  • 00:01:03.412 --> 00:01:05.247
  • Enjoy the read.
  • 00:01:05.247 --> 00:01:07.082
  • ♪♪♪
  • 00:01:07.082 --> 00:01:25.767
  • Allen: as i've already mentioned, this is not a normal
  • 00:01:29.338 --> 00:01:31.340
  • Weekend for us.
  • 00:01:31.340 --> 00:01:32.674
  • It's not just business as usual.
  • 00:01:32.674 --> 00:01:34.009
  • We have some special guests, special things happening.
  • 00:01:34.009 --> 00:01:35.944
  • You may have seen the israeli flags around campus.
  • 00:01:35.944 --> 00:01:38.113
  • There's a flag commemorating each of the victims of that
  • 00:01:38.113 --> 00:01:41.450
  • Horrible massacre on october the 7th.
  • 00:01:41.450 --> 00:01:46.255
  • But i have the privilege of introducing to you a new friend.
  • 00:01:46.255 --> 00:01:49.124
  • I've heard him speak some time ago, several months ago, at
  • 00:01:49.124 --> 00:01:52.661
  • Another event in another city and there was such a clarity
  • 00:01:52.661 --> 00:01:55.964
  • With which he spoke when the opportunity for him to visit us
  • 00:01:55.964 --> 00:01:58.367
  • Here emerged, we were delighted to welcome him.
  • 00:01:58.367 --> 00:02:03.872
  • He's colonel keith isaacson.
  • 00:02:03.872 --> 00:02:05.641
  • He flew in from israel to be a part of this event, and he's
  • 00:02:05.641 --> 00:02:08.277
  • Going home monday.
  • 00:02:08.277 --> 00:02:11.013
  • If you're, hmm, if you're tracking that journey on your
  • 00:02:11.013 --> 00:02:17.586
  • Body clock, it just means, "ugh."
  • 00:02:17.586 --> 00:02:21.089
  • There's no easy way to do that.
  • 00:02:21.089 --> 00:02:23.325
  • This is his first visit to our congregation.
  • 00:02:23.325 --> 00:02:25.494
  • Will you help me welcome the colonel, please?
  • 00:02:25.494 --> 00:02:27.729
  • [congregation applauding]
  • 00:02:29.264 --> 00:02:46.281
  • Allen: well, this is colonel keith isaacson.
  • 00:02:48.083 --> 00:02:50.352
  • And i don't know your formal title, forgive me.
  • 00:02:50.352 --> 00:02:52.521
  • You're the director of security for eshkol, which is this
  • 00:02:52.521 --> 00:02:56.158
  • Region-- the region primarily, we would call it a county,
  • 00:02:56.158 --> 00:03:00.862
  • Bordering the gaza area.
  • 00:03:00.862 --> 00:03:03.165
  • This is your first visit here.
  • 00:03:03.165 --> 00:03:04.499
  • Anything you wanna say to our congregation?
  • 00:03:04.499 --> 00:03:05.867
  • You've never been exposed to hillbillies quite like
  • 00:03:05.867 --> 00:03:07.436
  • This before.
  • 00:03:07.436 --> 00:03:08.804
  • Keith isaacson: you know, after flying for, well, it took me 24
  • 00:03:11.807 --> 00:03:15.277
  • Hours to get here.
  • 00:03:15.277 --> 00:03:17.579
  • I'll be here for about 48 hours, and, like you said, pastor, on
  • 00:03:17.579 --> 00:03:22.251
  • Monday morning, i'm leaving.
  • 00:03:22.251 --> 00:03:25.187
  • And the reason i'm doing this is mainly two reasons.
  • 00:03:25.187 --> 00:03:29.558
  • One, the fellowship asked me, and when they asked me, i do it.
  • 00:03:29.558 --> 00:03:34.329
  • And the second thing is just to say thank you to all your-- to
  • 00:03:34.329 --> 00:03:39.835
  • All the people that are here and that are listening to us, that
  • 00:03:39.835 --> 00:03:43.839
  • Have been helping us for years.
  • 00:03:43.839 --> 00:03:45.741
  • And when i sat with pastor allen, i understood he's been to
  • 00:03:45.741 --> 00:03:51.046
  • Israel and he's been helping israel for decades.
  • 00:03:51.046 --> 00:03:54.549
  • So just to thank you and that we in israel, we need this help.
  • 00:03:54.549 --> 00:04:03.058
  • We need this backing, we need the prayers.
  • 00:04:03.058 --> 00:04:07.362
  • And you can see what's happening in the world.
  • 00:04:07.362 --> 00:04:11.500
  • Many countries, all of a sudden, are voting against israel.
  • 00:04:11.500 --> 00:04:15.504
  • Semitism is-- antisemitism rising.
  • 00:04:15.504 --> 00:04:21.943
  • But i think we as jews living in israel, we know we have the
  • 00:04:21.943 --> 00:04:27.549
  • Backing of people like you.
  • 00:04:27.549 --> 00:04:30.218
  • Thank you very much.
  • 00:04:30.218 --> 00:04:31.620
  • Allen: well, i'd like to start, too many americans get their
  • 00:04:35.757 --> 00:04:38.927
  • News from unreliable sources, places of great integrity
  • 00:04:38.927 --> 00:04:43.398
  • Like tiktok.
  • 00:04:43.398 --> 00:04:46.668
  • Although i'm not sure that has less integrity than some of the
  • 00:04:46.668 --> 00:04:49.004
  • More celebrated formats these days, so, my apologies
  • 00:04:49.004 --> 00:04:51.940
  • To tiktok.
  • 00:04:51.940 --> 00:04:54.176
  • But october 7 was personal to you.
  • 00:04:54.176 --> 00:04:57.846
  • It was your assignment and you were in the midst of that.
  • 00:04:57.846 --> 00:05:00.082
  • Can you give us just briefly what happened and the impact
  • 00:05:00.082 --> 00:05:04.219
  • Of that?
  • 00:05:04.219 --> 00:05:05.587
  • I mean, i have the numbers, 216 killed that were under you, but
  • 00:05:05.587 --> 00:05:07.422
  • I mean, can you give us a bit of an overview?
  • 00:05:07.422 --> 00:05:10.659
  • Keith: so, my region is one of four regions that are around the
  • 00:05:10.659 --> 00:05:16.198
  • Gaza border.
  • 00:05:16.198 --> 00:05:18.500
  • It's the biggest one, 32 communities out of 66.
  • 00:05:18.500 --> 00:05:22.838
  • So i'm in charge of 32 communities.
  • 00:05:22.838 --> 00:05:26.007
  • The communities are small, between 500 and 1,200 people
  • 00:05:26.007 --> 00:05:30.345
  • Living in a community.
  • 00:05:30.345 --> 00:05:32.314
  • But it's very different to, you know, when i flew-- when i came
  • 00:05:32.314 --> 00:05:35.684
  • Into nashville, i said, "wow, everything's open, trees, lakes.
  • 00:05:35.684 --> 00:05:40.622
  • With us, everything's closed.
  • 00:05:40.622 --> 00:05:41.990
  • Every community that i talk-- that i'm talking about is-- has
  • 00:05:41.990 --> 00:05:45.627
  • Got a fence, electric fence, a road, security guards, cameras,
  • 00:05:45.627 --> 00:05:53.068
  • And everything.
  • 00:05:53.068 --> 00:05:54.970
  • And we knew what was happening on the other side.
  • 00:05:54.970 --> 00:06:01.209
  • We knew that they're not our friends.
  • 00:06:01.209 --> 00:06:03.879
  • But we didn't realize that for 12 years since plus or minus
  • 00:06:03.879 --> 00:06:08.817
  • 2012, they've been organizing this attack.
  • 00:06:08.817 --> 00:06:12.554
  • And they surprised us.
  • 00:06:12.554 --> 00:06:14.122
  • They surprised us in four different ways.
  • 00:06:14.122 --> 00:06:16.892
  • One: the amount.
  • 00:06:16.892 --> 00:06:19.694
  • We're talking between 5,500 to 6,500 terrorists that penetrated
  • 00:06:19.694 --> 00:06:26.568
  • The border.
  • 00:06:26.568 --> 00:06:28.270
  • Two: a group that hit all our radar systems, cameras, radars
  • 00:06:28.270 --> 00:06:36.778
  • And everything.
  • 00:06:36.778 --> 00:06:38.113
  • They did it in a very professional way.
  • 00:06:38.113 --> 00:06:41.149
  • Three: at the same time attacking 28 communities, 16 of
  • 00:06:41.149 --> 00:06:47.322
  • My communities, and the rest in the other region, altogether 28
  • 00:06:47.322 --> 00:06:53.295
  • Communities simultaneously.
  • 00:06:53.295 --> 00:06:55.697
  • And the fourth thing, or the third thing, attacking all
  • 00:06:55.697 --> 00:06:59.668
  • The bases.
  • 00:06:59.668 --> 00:07:01.002
  • We have many bases, small bases like companies, platoons,
  • 00:07:01.002 --> 00:07:05.440
  • Battalions, brigades, divisions.
  • 00:07:05.440 --> 00:07:09.244
  • They attacked all these units simultaneously.
  • 00:07:09.244 --> 00:07:14.916
  • And the fourth thing that they did was very clever, is they did
  • 00:07:14.916 --> 00:07:18.854
  • Ambushes in every entrance to the 65 kilometer area, so anyone
  • 00:07:18.854 --> 00:07:26.661
  • That tried to come and help us was attacked.
  • 00:07:26.661 --> 00:07:31.399
  • So these four things simultaneously, by 6,500
  • 00:07:31.399 --> 00:07:37.038
  • Terrorists, for the first 12 hours is a lot of chaos.
  • 00:07:37.038 --> 00:07:45.480
  • No one knew what was happening, and it was a surprise.
  • 00:07:45.480 --> 00:07:51.720
  • And hopefully, it won't happen again, but we said that after
  • 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:58.527
  • The yom kippur war.
  • 00:07:58.527 --> 00:08:00.529
  • And we said that after second world war.
  • 00:08:00.529 --> 00:08:05.934
  • So don't say never.
  • 00:08:05.934 --> 00:08:08.036
  • Just make sure that you are ready.
  • 00:08:08.036 --> 00:08:11.273
  • Allen: october 7 was the greatest loss of jewish life in
  • 00:08:11.273 --> 00:08:14.042
  • A single day since the holocaust.
  • 00:08:14.042 --> 00:08:17.379
  • Keith: exactly.
  • 00:08:17.379 --> 00:08:18.747
  • Allen: and it was personal.
  • 00:08:18.747 --> 00:08:20.081
  • You-- i heard you tell your story in another setting and
  • 00:08:20.081 --> 00:08:22.150
  • Your daughter was in another one of the communities and she was
  • 00:08:22.150 --> 00:08:25.854
  • Calling you for help.
  • 00:08:25.854 --> 00:08:27.956
  • Keith: well, at the same time, on friday, the 6th of october,
  • 00:08:27.956 --> 00:08:32.527
  • We had dinner together.
  • 00:08:32.527 --> 00:08:33.995
  • It's, i think, very similar to you guys.
  • 00:08:33.995 --> 00:08:37.599
  • We get all-- we get together.
  • 00:08:37.599 --> 00:08:41.736
  • So i have two sets of twins.
  • 00:08:41.736 --> 00:08:44.906
  • They all came for the dinner on friday.
  • 00:08:44.906 --> 00:08:51.212
  • One daughter went back to her small village, which is about 10
  • 00:08:51.212 --> 00:08:54.849
  • Minutes away.
  • 00:08:54.849 --> 00:08:56.484
  • My other daughter lives in tel aviv, so she went back to
  • 00:08:56.484 --> 00:08:59.821
  • Tel aviv.
  • 00:08:59.821 --> 00:09:01.523
  • The third daughter lives about five minutes away also in
  • 00:09:01.523 --> 00:09:06.027
  • Another community, and my son lives also in another community,
  • 00:09:06.027 --> 00:09:10.599
  • Also five minutes away.
  • 00:09:10.599 --> 00:09:12.300
  • So after dinner, they all went to their houses, and my colonel
  • 00:09:12.300 --> 00:09:22.143
  • Who has been a colonel for a year and a half brought for the
  • 00:09:22.143 --> 00:09:24.879
  • First time his young son to the base, six years old, and he
  • 00:09:24.879 --> 00:09:28.850
  • Asked me for a atv.
  • 00:09:28.850 --> 00:09:30.885
  • I said, "no problem, i'll wake up early on saturday and give
  • 00:09:30.885 --> 00:09:33.355
  • You the atv."
  • 00:09:33.355 --> 00:09:35.190
  • Anyway, to cut things short, i wake up very early.
  • 00:09:35.190 --> 00:09:42.631
  • At 6:29, the attack starts.
  • 00:09:42.631 --> 00:09:46.835
  • My kids are all in different communities.
  • 00:09:46.835 --> 00:09:51.673
  • I leave the house very quickly.
  • 00:09:51.673 --> 00:09:55.010
  • My colonel who was killed at 7 o'clock in the morning already,
  • 00:09:55.010 --> 00:10:01.549
  • But at 6:29 sent me a message and said, "get everyone
  • 00:10:01.549 --> 00:10:08.390
  • Into shelter."
  • 00:10:08.390 --> 00:10:09.958
  • Everyone means the 17,000 people living in my community.
  • 00:10:09.958 --> 00:10:14.562
  • So within 3 minutes, i sent a message to 17,000 people: "get
  • 00:10:14.562 --> 00:10:18.033
  • Into shelter."
  • 00:10:18.033 --> 00:10:20.268
  • I went home, 'cause i was outside already, got dressed
  • 00:10:20.268 --> 00:10:25.206
  • Into a uniform because i belong to the unit and i'm
  • 00:10:25.206 --> 00:10:28.843
  • Automatically recruited into the israeli army.
  • 00:10:28.843 --> 00:10:33.748
  • As i'm getting dressed, at 6:40, he sends another message: "we
  • 00:10:33.748 --> 00:10:38.553
  • Have been attacked in multiple places."
  • 00:10:38.553 --> 00:10:42.123
  • So i said to, "where?
  • 00:10:42.123 --> 00:10:43.458
  • Just tell me where," because we knew we were gonna be attacked
  • 00:10:43.458 --> 00:10:46.127
  • One day.
  • 00:10:46.127 --> 00:10:47.495
  • "just tell me where, which community."
  • 00:10:47.495 --> 00:10:49.230
  • He said, "no, everywhere."
  • 00:10:49.230 --> 00:10:51.866
  • So at 6:43 in the morning, i sent a message to all
  • 00:10:51.866 --> 00:10:54.769
  • My officers.
  • 00:10:54.769 --> 00:10:56.137
  • I have 33 officers.
  • 00:10:56.137 --> 00:10:57.472
  • I said, "get all your first responders out.
  • 00:10:57.472 --> 00:11:01.443
  • We're at war."
  • 00:11:01.443 --> 00:11:03.511
  • Fifteen minutes later, he was already killed, and i was on my
  • 00:11:03.511 --> 00:11:07.782
  • Way to the base.
  • 00:11:07.782 --> 00:11:11.453
  • Allen: how many of your officers survived the day?
  • 00:11:11.453 --> 00:11:14.489
  • Keith: first of all, i didn't tell you about my family.
  • 00:11:14.489 --> 00:11:17.592
  • Allen: i wasn't gonna let you forget.
  • 00:11:17.592 --> 00:11:18.927
  • We were going back there.
  • 00:11:18.927 --> 00:11:20.261
  • Keith: okay, so we'll go back to my family.
  • 00:11:20.261 --> 00:11:22.297
  • I lost 32 of my officers that day.
  • 00:11:22.297 --> 00:11:27.669
  • And everyone has a story behind them.
  • 00:11:27.669 --> 00:11:31.072
  • Everyone is a hero because losing those 32 officers, we
  • 00:11:31.072 --> 00:11:37.779
  • Saved thousands.
  • 00:11:37.779 --> 00:11:39.214
  • They saved, not me.
  • 00:11:39.214 --> 00:11:40.548
  • They saved thousands of their own people, their
  • 00:11:40.548 --> 00:11:43.251
  • Own communities.
  • 00:11:43.251 --> 00:11:45.720
  • And actually this week, that's why i'm flying also back on
  • 00:11:45.720 --> 00:11:51.893
  • Monday, we have to get to-- i have to get to 32 cemeteries and
  • 00:11:51.893 --> 00:11:57.232
  • Graves to pay my respects.
  • 00:11:57.232 --> 00:12:02.504
  • Allen: you know, how should we respond to the nation of
  • 00:12:06.674 --> 00:12:08.510
  • Israel and the jewish people?
  • 00:12:08.510 --> 00:12:10.712
  • It's a complex question in today's world.
  • 00:12:10.712 --> 00:12:12.914
  • Well, i've written a book, "supporting israel:
  • 00:12:12.914 --> 00:12:14.949
  • How far is too far?"
  • 00:12:14.949 --> 00:12:16.885
  • To help us establish a biblical perspective on what has become a
  • 00:12:16.885 --> 00:12:20.622
  • Complex question in contemporary culture.
  • 00:12:20.622 --> 00:12:24.058
  • We don't want to follow the guidance and the counsel of some
  • 00:12:24.058 --> 00:12:26.961
  • Of the elite universities in this nation.
  • 00:12:26.961 --> 00:12:29.497
  • We want to form a perspective that's built from god's word.
  • 00:12:29.497 --> 00:12:32.233
  • If we'll do that, it'll bring his blessings to our lives.
  • 00:12:32.233 --> 00:12:35.270
  • Enjoy the book.
  • 00:12:35.270 --> 00:12:36.604
  • Female announcer: from the pages of scripture to the front
  • 00:12:36.604 --> 00:12:38.673
  • Lines of today's news, israel stands at the center
  • 00:12:38.673 --> 00:12:41.676
  • Of god's purposes.
  • 00:12:41.676 --> 00:12:43.011
  • Pastor allen's new booklet, "supporting israel:
  • 00:12:43.011 --> 00:12:46.181
  • How far is too far?"
  • 00:12:46.181 --> 00:12:47.615
  • Offers a quick way to gain a biblical perspective on israel,
  • 00:12:47.615 --> 00:12:51.085
  • Why israel matters to god, and why it should matter to us.
  • 00:12:51.085 --> 00:12:55.523
  • Request your copy with your gift of any amount today at
  • 00:12:55.523 --> 00:12:58.426
  • Allenjackson.com or by calling...
  • 00:12:58.426 --> 00:13:04.465
  • Announcer: getting the latest messages from pastor allen has
  • 00:13:06.534 --> 00:13:09.337
  • Never been easier with the allen jackson ministries app.
  • 00:13:09.337 --> 00:13:12.373
  • You can watch and share your favorite television broadcasts
  • 00:13:12.373 --> 00:13:15.143
  • Whenever you'd like.
  • 00:13:15.143 --> 00:13:16.678
  • Plus take part in any of the livestream services
  • 00:13:16.678 --> 00:13:19.714
  • From world outreach church.
  • 00:13:19.714 --> 00:13:21.816
  • If you're on the go, listen to the latest podcast and radio
  • 00:13:21.816 --> 00:13:24.953
  • Programs as you go about your day.
  • 00:13:24.953 --> 00:13:27.322
  • We wanna make sure you have tools to help you grow in
  • 00:13:27.322 --> 00:13:29.791
  • Your faith.
  • 00:13:29.791 --> 00:13:31.459
  • Find useful resources like devotionals, daily prayers, and
  • 00:13:31.459 --> 00:13:34.095
  • Small-group studies designed to help you in your spiritual life.
  • 00:13:34.095 --> 00:13:37.999
  • Plus you can join us in our daily bible reading plan.
  • 00:13:37.999 --> 00:13:40.869
  • Read it on the app, or let the app read it to you.
  • 00:13:40.869 --> 00:13:44.606
  • You can even partner with us in the ministry to help make our
  • 00:13:44.606 --> 00:13:47.175
  • Messages available for free in as many places as possible.
  • 00:13:47.175 --> 00:13:51.813
  • Wherever you get your apps, just search allen jackson ministries
  • 00:13:51.813 --> 00:13:55.149
  • And look for this icon.
  • 00:13:55.149 --> 00:13:57.018
  • Download the app and be encouraged by the word today.
  • 00:13:57.018 --> 00:14:02.891
  • Allen: there's two more points i want to be sure we make and it's
  • 00:14:07.128 --> 00:14:09.597
  • A congregation and i know you wanna be respectful of where you
  • 00:14:09.597 --> 00:14:12.901
  • Are, but the truth is important on this.
  • 00:14:12.901 --> 00:14:16.104
  • I went to dc to the embassy to see some of the security video
  • 00:14:16.104 --> 00:14:20.008
  • And such.
  • 00:14:20.008 --> 00:14:22.911
  • And the attack began with trained terrorists.
  • 00:14:22.911 --> 00:14:27.015
  • But it wasn't limited to that.
  • 00:14:27.015 --> 00:14:29.183
  • The citizens of gaza on their bicycles and their
  • 00:14:29.183 --> 00:14:31.920
  • Pickup trucks.
  • 00:14:31.920 --> 00:14:33.922
  • I mean, it lasted for several hours and they came in waves.
  • 00:14:33.922 --> 00:14:37.659
  • And when they arrived with the treatment, it wasn't like you
  • 00:14:37.659 --> 00:14:40.495
  • Would expect from combatants.
  • 00:14:40.495 --> 00:14:43.197
  • I don't have language to describe it.
  • 00:14:43.197 --> 00:14:45.033
  • It wasn't-- it was-- there was nothing about it humane.
  • 00:14:45.033 --> 00:14:49.671
  • Keith: you know, one thing i learned, we have a new mayor,
  • 00:14:49.671 --> 00:14:53.041
  • It's a lady.
  • 00:14:53.041 --> 00:14:55.510
  • And i heard her said, you know, we say they're not-- they're not
  • 00:14:55.510 --> 00:14:58.713
  • Human beings, they're animals, they're monsters.
  • 00:14:58.713 --> 00:15:01.049
  • And she said, "no, they're human beings that have learned to
  • 00:15:01.049 --> 00:15:06.955
  • Hate, kill, destroy.
  • 00:15:06.955 --> 00:15:13.027
  • Now you're right, a few waves.
  • 00:15:13.027 --> 00:15:17.265
  • For instance, kibbutz nir oz.
  • 00:15:17.265 --> 00:15:20.134
  • That's a kibbutz that was hit the most in my area,
  • 00:15:20.134 --> 00:15:24.572
  • Most severe.
  • 00:15:24.572 --> 00:15:26.240
  • Seventy-six hostages from that community.
  • 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:28.810
  • There's only 400 people living there.
  • 00:15:28.810 --> 00:15:31.012
  • Thirty-nine were killed that day.
  • 00:15:31.012 --> 00:15:33.614
  • First wave was 120, what we call the nukhba, the elite of
  • 00:15:33.614 --> 00:15:38.052
  • The hamas.
  • 00:15:38.052 --> 00:15:40.655
  • But they were not the worst.
  • 00:15:40.655 --> 00:15:43.324
  • The second and third wave, what we say, civilians, they did the
  • 00:15:43.324 --> 00:15:50.965
  • Worst atrocities.
  • 00:15:50.965 --> 00:15:52.300
  • The civilians that did not have the weapons, they never trained
  • 00:15:52.300 --> 00:15:57.839
  • To kill.
  • 00:15:57.839 --> 00:15:59.307
  • They came whatever they had, slaughtered, raped, amputated,
  • 00:15:59.307 --> 00:16:05.546
  • And whatever you can think of, it's the civilians that did the
  • 00:16:05.546 --> 00:16:10.318
  • Worst atrocities to our communities.
  • 00:16:10.318 --> 00:16:13.454
  • And what i'm trying to say, if there's 2.2 million, i don't
  • 00:16:13.454 --> 00:16:18.092
  • Know how many there are exactly, but more or less, palestinians
  • 00:16:18.092 --> 00:16:22.096
  • Living in gaza, everyone is hamas, everyone, 'cause everyone
  • 00:16:22.096 --> 00:16:29.971
  • Is taught, unfortunately, since he goes from-- from the moment
  • 00:16:29.971 --> 00:16:37.111
  • He goes to kindergarten, three years old, he's taught to hate
  • 00:16:37.111 --> 00:16:41.816
  • His neighbour, to kill, to slaughter.
  • 00:16:41.816 --> 00:16:48.322
  • And it's not written in any bible, not in the qur'an, not in
  • 00:16:48.322 --> 00:16:51.559
  • The bible, nothing.
  • 00:16:51.559 --> 00:16:53.594
  • But this is how they are learned.
  • 00:16:53.594 --> 00:16:58.032
  • And even if we want peace one day, it will take decades and
  • 00:16:58.032 --> 00:17:02.270
  • Decades to get to what we want, which i don't
  • 00:17:02.270 --> 00:17:06.007
  • Believe, unfortunately.
  • 00:17:06.007 --> 00:17:07.542
  • But yes, i have not seen those videos.
  • 00:17:07.542 --> 00:17:11.112
  • I personally can't.
  • 00:17:11.112 --> 00:17:13.147
  • It's not for me, the videos.
  • 00:17:13.147 --> 00:17:17.485
  • Unfortunately, i don't know why israel should show the world
  • 00:17:17.485 --> 00:17:23.858
  • Those videos, but unfortunately, i know the world will say it's
  • 00:17:23.858 --> 00:17:28.529
  • Not authentic.
  • 00:17:28.529 --> 00:17:31.933
  • But they were so proud of themselves, the terrorists, they
  • 00:17:31.933 --> 00:17:35.403
  • All had these cameras on their head,
  • 00:17:35.403 --> 00:17:38.005
  • I don't know what you call them.
  • 00:17:38.005 --> 00:17:39.340
  • Allen: gopro.
  • 00:17:39.340 --> 00:17:40.675
  • Keith: gopro, that they filmed almost everything what they did.
  • 00:17:40.675 --> 00:17:44.979
  • And we have everything, because that day we killed 1,600
  • 00:17:44.979 --> 00:17:49.417
  • Terrorists, we captured more or less 400,
  • 00:17:49.417 --> 00:17:52.153
  • Out of the 2,000, out of the 6,000, 2,000.
  • 00:17:52.153 --> 00:17:55.223
  • So we have all the footage that i haven't seen, but we
  • 00:17:55.223 --> 00:17:59.093
  • Have everything.
  • 00:17:59.093 --> 00:18:01.162
  • Allen: well, some of you remember right after october 7
  • 00:18:01.162 --> 00:18:03.498
  • There was a number of people saying it was all a fabrication.
  • 00:18:03.498 --> 00:18:07.768
  • It's the reason i went to look, but the the other point i've
  • 00:18:07.768 --> 00:18:10.438
  • Heard you make was that one of their objectives was to create
  • 00:18:10.438 --> 00:18:14.575
  • Enough terror that the israelis wouldn't come back to
  • 00:18:14.575 --> 00:18:17.211
  • Those communities.
  • 00:18:17.211 --> 00:18:20.982
  • Keith: before i answer that, i'm here, sitting here and talking
  • 00:18:20.982 --> 00:18:26.554
  • To you guys for two reasons.
  • 00:18:26.554 --> 00:18:29.891
  • One: god, and you can't argue with that.
  • 00:18:29.891 --> 00:18:34.529
  • And the second is actually the international fellowship of
  • 00:18:34.529 --> 00:18:39.000
  • Christians and jews.
  • 00:18:39.000 --> 00:18:40.401
  • 2021, they came to me and said, "what do you need?
  • 00:18:43.871 --> 00:18:47.909
  • What is the-- what do you really need?
  • 00:18:47.909 --> 00:18:50.745
  • What's-- something special."
  • 00:18:50.745 --> 00:18:53.714
  • And i said, "i need a armored car because i can't do my job
  • 00:18:53.714 --> 00:18:58.019
  • When there's missiles and i'm going from community
  • 00:18:58.019 --> 00:19:00.922
  • To community.
  • 00:19:00.922 --> 00:19:02.290
  • I need a armored car."
  • 00:19:02.290 --> 00:19:04.892
  • It took about a-- first of all, that moment, she said, "you'll
  • 00:19:04.892 --> 00:19:08.563
  • Have it."
  • 00:19:08.563 --> 00:19:09.897
  • It took about a year and at the beginning of '23, i got my
  • 00:19:09.897 --> 00:19:15.403
  • Armored car.
  • 00:19:15.403 --> 00:19:16.771
  • That day, i was attacked twice, and--
  • 00:19:16.771 --> 00:19:24.178
  • Allen: on october 7 you were attacked twice.
  • 00:19:24.178 --> 00:19:26.013
  • Keith: yes, on october 7 i was attacked twice.
  • 00:19:26.013 --> 00:19:29.884
  • I still have the bullet holes in the car where it's not armored
  • 00:19:29.884 --> 00:19:36.090
  • Because not everything is armored.
  • 00:19:36.090 --> 00:19:38.426
  • And that car now is standing next to my house, and i have two
  • 00:19:38.426 --> 00:19:44.098
  • Cars when there's a reason i have to go with the armored car,
  • 00:19:44.098 --> 00:19:49.570
  • I go for the armored car and if i have to go with the regular,
  • 00:19:49.570 --> 00:19:51.973
  • I'll go.
  • 00:19:51.973 --> 00:19:53.341
  • So, it's a good place to thank the international fellowship of
  • 00:19:53.341 --> 00:20:02.717
  • Christians and jews.
  • 00:20:02.717 --> 00:20:04.452
  • There's also a few other communities around america that
  • 00:20:04.452 --> 00:20:08.556
  • Have been helping me also, like you.
  • 00:20:08.556 --> 00:20:13.594
  • They have been helping for many years.
  • 00:20:13.594 --> 00:20:15.263
  • They've been before october the 7th, during october the 7th, and
  • 00:20:15.263 --> 00:20:21.235
  • The hard times now, we haven't finished.
  • 00:20:21.235 --> 00:20:23.871
  • We're still at war.
  • 00:20:23.871 --> 00:20:25.673
  • We still have to rebuild.
  • 00:20:25.673 --> 00:20:28.142
  • And what was the question?
  • 00:20:28.142 --> 00:20:31.412
  • Allen: well, i've heard you say that one of the goals of hamas
  • 00:20:31.412 --> 00:20:34.181
  • Was to drive the israelis out, particularly so the young
  • 00:20:34.181 --> 00:20:37.251
  • Families would never come back.
  • 00:20:37.251 --> 00:20:40.388
  • Keith: one of the hostages was a very good friend of mine, and
  • 00:20:40.388 --> 00:20:43.824
  • She phoned me up at 8 o'clock, asking for help, and then 10
  • 00:20:43.824 --> 00:20:47.928
  • O'clock asking again for help.
  • 00:20:47.928 --> 00:20:50.431
  • At 12, she herself, her husband, her two-- her twins
  • 00:20:50.431 --> 00:20:56.103
  • Were kidnapped.
  • 00:20:56.103 --> 00:20:58.339
  • She came back after a month and-- month and 50, 50-something
  • 00:20:58.339 --> 00:21:03.277
  • Days, with her two kids.
  • 00:21:03.277 --> 00:21:05.479
  • Her husband is still in gaza.
  • 00:21:05.479 --> 00:21:10.351
  • We know he's one of the 20, plus/minus, that is alive.
  • 00:21:10.351 --> 00:21:16.190
  • And when she came back, i didn't call her.
  • 00:21:16.190 --> 00:21:20.995
  • I was-- it wasn't for me, but she phoned me and she said she
  • 00:21:20.995 --> 00:21:24.432
  • Wants to talk to me.
  • 00:21:24.432 --> 00:21:26.600
  • And she said, they kept asking her all the time, "are you
  • 00:21:26.600 --> 00:21:32.506
  • Going back?"
  • 00:21:32.506 --> 00:21:33.841
  • She's from nir oz, from that community that was suffered.
  • 00:21:33.841 --> 00:21:36.577
  • "are you gonna go back?"
  • 00:21:36.577 --> 00:21:38.212
  • Of course, she's not stupid.
  • 00:21:38.212 --> 00:21:39.613
  • She says, "no, i'm not going back."
  • 00:21:39.613 --> 00:21:43.818
  • But they asked many, many times.
  • 00:21:43.818 --> 00:21:46.220
  • The hamas, there were a few groups, groups to kill, groups
  • 00:21:46.220 --> 00:21:52.526
  • To the main thing is to kidnap and capture.
  • 00:21:52.526 --> 00:21:58.199
  • That was their main goal.
  • 00:21:58.199 --> 00:22:00.968
  • And the third group was to destroy.
  • 00:22:00.968 --> 00:22:04.839
  • And the idea to destroy doesn't also matter if they killed,
  • 00:22:04.839 --> 00:22:08.576
  • There were about 40 or maybe a bit more thai workers that work
  • 00:22:08.576 --> 00:22:14.648
  • In our area that were killed.
  • 00:22:14.648 --> 00:22:16.083
  • It didn't really matter to them.
  • 00:22:16.083 --> 00:22:18.085
  • It-- the idea was to destroy and kill and make sure that we won't
  • 00:22:18.085 --> 00:22:24.358
  • Want to come and live in that area again.
  • 00:22:24.358 --> 00:22:28.662
  • But they don't know who they're dealing with.
  • 00:22:28.662 --> 00:22:33.100
  • Not only that we're not coming back, we are rebuilding, we're
  • 00:22:33.100 --> 00:22:38.005
  • Gonna expand, and we are gonna be better and better and better.
  • 00:22:38.005 --> 00:22:45.179
  • Allen: amen, we would like to pray for you.
  • 00:22:45.179 --> 00:22:49.016
  • May we do that?
  • 00:22:49.016 --> 00:22:50.351
  • Why don't we stand?
  • 00:22:50.351 --> 00:22:55.489
  • We do have a commitment that when someone visits here, you
  • 00:22:59.693 --> 00:23:02.096
  • Become a part of our community.
  • 00:23:02.096 --> 00:23:03.831
  • And we will pray for you beyond today, all right?
  • 00:23:03.831 --> 00:23:08.002
  • Keith: be my honor.
  • 00:23:08.002 --> 00:23:09.937
  • Allen: there are still hostages in those tunnels, which is
  • 00:23:09.937 --> 00:23:15.676
  • Unimaginable to me.
  • 00:23:15.676 --> 00:23:17.011
  • Our president has set a deadline for tomorrow.
  • 00:23:17.011 --> 00:23:18.879
  • I have no idea what that means.
  • 00:23:18.879 --> 00:23:21.348
  • But it's an appropriate prayer, but i thought to pray for the
  • 00:23:21.348 --> 00:23:24.118
  • Rebuilding of those communities.
  • 00:23:24.118 --> 00:23:26.754
  • They're israelis that have been evacuated, tens of thousands of
  • 00:23:26.754 --> 00:23:30.191
  • Them were evacuated, many of them for months and months
  • 00:23:30.191 --> 00:23:32.460
  • And months.
  • 00:23:32.460 --> 00:23:34.128
  • You know, we know how-- if our electricity goes off for two
  • 00:23:34.128 --> 00:23:37.031
  • Hours, we're incensed, right?
  • 00:23:37.031 --> 00:23:43.204
  • The food in our freezer will spoil.
  • 00:23:43.204 --> 00:23:46.640
  • And they have been evacuated-- when i was there last, we would
  • 00:23:46.640 --> 00:23:51.846
  • Be in a restaurant and someone would come out with tears
  • 00:23:51.846 --> 00:23:54.048
  • Running down their faces and say, "why are you here?"
  • 00:23:54.048 --> 00:23:57.318
  • And their staff had all been moved from their homes and
  • 00:23:57.318 --> 00:24:01.121
  • They've been doing makeshift things for schools, it's--
  • 00:24:01.121 --> 00:24:04.425
  • While the world hates them and we have demonstrations on our
  • 00:24:04.425 --> 00:24:08.295
  • Previously elite universities, you watch those
  • 00:24:08.295 --> 00:24:10.531
  • Universities fail.
  • 00:24:10.531 --> 00:24:12.700
  • You can't do what they've done without god taking a hand in
  • 00:24:12.700 --> 00:24:15.302
  • That game.
  • 00:24:15.302 --> 00:24:17.471
  • And we're gonna pray.
  • 00:24:21.008 --> 00:24:22.343
  • We serve a god who restores and redeems and renews.
  • 00:24:22.343 --> 00:24:25.546
  • And he is literally making the desert bloom.
  • 00:24:25.546 --> 00:24:28.883
  • I look forward to flying into the southern part of israel that
  • 00:24:28.883 --> 00:24:31.151
  • Looks like middle tennessee.
  • 00:24:31.151 --> 00:24:33.721
  • Father, i thank you.
  • 00:24:33.721 --> 00:24:35.856
  • I thank you for a voice of truth.
  • 00:24:35.856 --> 00:24:40.060
  • Lord, we live in a season where there is conflict in the earth.
  • 00:24:40.060 --> 00:24:44.365
  • Not conflict between nations or conflicts between peoples, but
  • 00:24:44.365 --> 00:24:48.202
  • Conflict between good and evil.
  • 00:24:48.202 --> 00:24:51.005
  • And there is much deception and many voices, and we pray
  • 00:24:51.005 --> 00:24:53.841
  • For wisdom.
  • 00:24:53.841 --> 00:24:55.376
  • Help us to recognize the truth
  • 00:24:55.376 --> 00:24:57.678
  • And have the courage to stand on its behalf.
  • 00:24:57.678 --> 00:25:01.782
  • I thank you for the colonel and his life and his family, for
  • 00:25:01.782 --> 00:25:04.652
  • Your protection over him.
  • 00:25:04.652 --> 00:25:06.520
  • And i pray for those communities that he has served.
  • 00:25:06.520 --> 00:25:09.990
  • Father, that you would oversee their rebuilding.
  • 00:25:09.990 --> 00:25:13.627
  • That the outcome would exceed any imagination they hold.
  • 00:25:13.627 --> 00:25:16.530
  • That it would extend beyond the wisdom of planners and
  • 00:25:16.530 --> 00:25:19.733
  • Architects and designers.
  • 00:25:19.733 --> 00:25:22.303
  • I thank you that it will reflect your wisdom, that it would be
  • 00:25:22.303 --> 00:25:26.073
  • Used to bring glory to you.
  • 00:25:26.073 --> 00:25:28.442
  • May the enemies-- may the enemies of your people be
  • 00:25:28.442 --> 00:25:30.711
  • Confounded at what you bring forth from that day
  • 00:25:30.711 --> 00:25:34.481
  • Of destruction.
  • 00:25:34.481 --> 00:25:36.283
  • I thank you that the one who watches over israel neither
  • 00:25:36.283 --> 00:25:38.652
  • Slumbers nor sleeps.
  • 00:25:38.652 --> 00:25:40.621
  • And that we have the privilege of standing together at this
  • 00:25:40.621 --> 00:25:42.890
  • Most unique season in human history.
  • 00:25:42.890 --> 00:25:45.659
  • May we do so in a way that you are pleased, in jesus's
  • 00:25:45.659 --> 00:25:49.029
  • Name, amen.
  • 00:25:49.029 --> 00:25:51.532
  • Thank you, sir.
  • 00:25:51.532 --> 00:25:54.001
  • You come back and see us again?
  • 00:25:54.001 --> 00:25:56.203
  • Keith: yes.
  • 00:25:56.203 --> 00:25:57.538
  • Allen: okay, oh, you give him better hand than that.
  • 00:25:57.538 --> 00:26:05.746
  • [congregation applauding]
  • 00:26:05.746 --> 00:26:10.684
  • Allen: you know, we don't read our bibles just for exercise or
  • 00:26:14.888 --> 00:26:17.725
  • Just to be dutiful christians.
  • 00:26:17.725 --> 00:26:19.793
  • We read our bibles to understand how to navigate a complex world,
  • 00:26:19.793 --> 00:26:22.863
  • How to understand what's unfolding around us.
  • 00:26:22.863 --> 00:26:26.133
  • We're living in a season where there's a lot of emotion
  • 00:26:26.133 --> 00:26:28.569
  • Expressed about the jewish people and the nation of israel.
  • 00:26:28.569 --> 00:26:31.305
  • From some very well-established elite places
  • 00:26:31.305 --> 00:26:34.475
  • There are voices saying they don't deserve our support.
  • 00:26:34.475 --> 00:26:37.311
  • Well, i wrote a book, "supporting israel:
  • 00:26:37.311 --> 00:26:38.979
  • How far is too far?"
  • 00:26:38.979 --> 00:26:40.681
  • So that we can have a biblical perspective on our response to
  • 00:26:40.681 --> 00:26:43.684
  • Current events.
  • 00:26:43.684 --> 00:26:45.019
  • At the end of the day, i want to align myself with the purposes
  • 00:26:45.019 --> 00:26:47.287
  • Of god, not the thought leaders at elite ivy league schools or
  • 00:26:47.287 --> 00:26:51.759
  • The talking heads in the media.
  • 00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:53.594
  • I intend to stand with the purposes of god.
  • 00:26:53.594 --> 00:26:56.196
  • This book will help you unpack the current events and
  • 00:26:56.196 --> 00:26:59.533
  • Understand the perspective from the viewpoint of scripture on
  • 00:26:59.533 --> 00:27:02.936
  • How you and i can respond in a way that i believe will bring
  • 00:27:02.936 --> 00:27:05.606
  • The blessings of god to our lives and help us accomplish his
  • 00:27:05.606 --> 00:27:08.876
  • Purposes in our generation.
  • 00:27:08.876 --> 00:27:11.245
  • It's worth the read.
  • 00:27:11.245 --> 00:27:12.646
  • ♪♪♪
  • 00:27:13.447 --> 00:27:27.394