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Allen Jackson Ministries | Allen Jackson - Israel, God's People, and The Nations (Part 1) | October 27, 2025
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- Allen jackson: you know, we're witnessing something of a crisis
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- In our nation, something i never thought i would see: expressions
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- Of antisemitism, hatred for the jewish people, coming from
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- America, coming from the christian community, the
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- Conservative side of the ideological spectrum, to a
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- Degree and scope i've never seen before.
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- Well, it was important enough that i stopped and put together
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- A book.
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- The title of it is "supporting israel: how far is too far?"
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- It's an important concept that isn't political.
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- It's grounded in a biblical worldview.
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- I think we need to understand our responsibilities to the
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- Jewish people, to the modern-day state of israel, not from an
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- Ideological perspective, not from the perspective of nation
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- States, but as people of god.
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- It's important.
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- It's an important season, a lot of voices.
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- You know, i know there's some fatigue with the conflict in the
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- Middle east, but we can't afford to be fatigued with our
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- Assignments to honor god and the responsibilities that come
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- With that.
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- I believe the book will be a help to you.
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- I believe it'll help you navigate the conversation with
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- Your family and your friends.
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- Enjoy the read.
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- Allen: amen, i thank you for being here today.
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- You know, there's a bit of a somber note, i suppose, to this
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- Day commemorating october 7th, and it was a horrific day.
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- More jewish people killed on that single day than any day
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- Since the holocaust, a repetition of history.
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- The jewish people had no imagination that could happen in
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- The land of israel.
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- But i also think it's a triumphant day and i don't wanna
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- Miss that.
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- You know, i visited israel.
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- My parents took my brother and i when we were boys, which it's
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- Been a day or two.
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- And israel was very much a developing country.
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- It was a very different place.
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- Today, they're one of the world leaders in tech startups, one of
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- The most technically sophisticated places in
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- The world.
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- Their desalination plants: i mean, they have an abundance
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- Of water.
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- It's a flourishing nation, an island of productivity in the
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- Midst of really a boiling pot of many other things.
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- And if we miss what god is doing in the land of israel, i--
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- There's no way to understand the modern nation of israel other
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- Than a miracle of biblical proportions: the god who keeps
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- His promises to a people.
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- Not without a cost, not without a price.
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- They're some of the most diligent, faithful, vigilant
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- People i've ever known.
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- When i visit israel, i always come home with a greater
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- Determination to be faithful in my own assignments in the earth.
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- But when you hear the news about israel or you hear the
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- Renunciations of israel, you understand that god is moving in
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- The midst of that nation.
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- It truly is a celebration.
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- There's nothing quite like it anywhere in the world.
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- In the million of a sea of tens and hundreds of millions of
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- People sworn to their destruction, tiny
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- Israel flourishes.
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- It's the most remarkable thing i've seen.
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- My israeli friends will go to the coffee shop and the sirens
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- Will go off and they'll run from the coffee shop to the shelters.
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- And the sirens will stop and they'll go back and finish their
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- Cup of coffee.
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- We close our world if we get a quarter of an inch of snow.
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- I'm just saying.
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- So we're honored today to celebrate what god is doing in
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- The land of israel.
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- October 7th was a step too far.
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- You know, it's not the point of my message and don't take it off
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- My time, but since october 7th, as horrific as the day was and
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- The hostages that are still not released, since that day, iran's
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- Authority over the middle east has been totally diminished.
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- Hezbollah in the north, a threat that had loomed over the
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- Israelis for two decades, has lost almost all threat.
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- Hamas is hanging on but by a thread.
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- God has moved in the most remarkable way.
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- And one of our challenge is to be sure we keep our attentions
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- Focused on the good things that god is doing and not allow evil
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- To form a place in the center of our thoughts and certainly not
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- In the center of our hearts.
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- We can't afford to choose hatred.
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- It will poison your soul.
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- We have a different assignment.
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- It doesn't mean we're tolerant of evil.
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- It doesn't mean we embrace wickedness.
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- It doesn't mean there's no boundaries.
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- When god said "thou shalt not," he didn't offer it as
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- A suggestion.
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- But in the midst of the sovereignty of god, we can
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- Reject hate.
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- And it's an important season for us.
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- If you were with us in the previous session, i want to
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- Complete what we began.
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- The title is "israel, god's people, and the nations."
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- It's a topic over which there's a great deal of debate
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- These days.
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- Since october 7th, antisemitism has been expressed in this
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- Nation in ways i never imagined possible.
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- It was one of the unanticipated consequences of that day.
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- From places that we thought were elite; i no longer refer to them
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- In that way.
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- I think they're temporary.
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- I think their influence will diminish with each passing day.
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- But then i've seen that same antisemitism expressed from
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- Voices on the conservative side of the spectrum and frequently
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- From people within the church or christian community.
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- It surprised me.
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- I know better.
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- Throughout history for more than 1700 years, the christian
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- Community have been the primary sponsors of antisemitism.
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- We don't know our history well enough to be aware of that, but
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- It is the truth.
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- We're gonna talk about israel and god's people and
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- The nations.
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- Israel, the covenant people of god, god's people, all those
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- Peoples in covenant with the god of abraham, isaac, and jacob.
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- And the nations: everybody else.
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- The bible's pretty clear in the way it looks at the world and
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- The people that are in it.
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- If you'll allow me just a bit of history, briefly, david was king
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- In jerusalem 1000 years, plus or minus, before the birth
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- Of christ.
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- A jewish king on the throne in the city of jerusalem more than
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- 1500 years before the birth of muhammad, long before there was
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- A discussion about islam.
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- So the jewish presence in the land of israel.
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- Jerusalem is the capital city of the jewish people, really isn't
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- A question for historical debate.
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- And there's a great deal of confusion around that.
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- It's impossible to understand our bible, either the old
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- Testament, the hebrew bible, or our new testament, without
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- Understanding the role of the jewish people, the covenant that
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- God made with the descendants of abraham, isaac, and jacob, and
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- It was very specific, if you know the text: he made the
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- Covenant with abraham, with his son isaac, and his son jacob.
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- Without that understanding, without that context, the bible
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- Makes no sense.
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- In fact, the bible tells us without that context we have no
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- Savior and we have no redemption.
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- So it's troubling to me to find ourselves in a place where there
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- Are prominent voices that seek to convince us that the modern
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- Nation of israel and biblical israel are not connected.
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- And you hear that more frequently than i would like.
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- That we have little or no responsibility to the modern
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- Nation of israel.
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- Often, these people that make statements that are that naive
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- Or biblically ill-informed will make statements like we have no
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- Responsibility to the culture in which we live.
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- I don't accept either of them.
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- I wanna start there with just a few simple verses of scripture
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- That perhaps will help you begin to imagine the role that the
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- Jewish people have in our faith.
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- In john chapter 4 and verse 22, jesus is speaking.
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- That would be authoritative, for those of you taking notes
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- At home.
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- He said, "you samaritans worship what you do not know; but we
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- Worship what we do know, for salvation is from the jews."
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- Really, there's nothing to be said after that.
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- Apart from the jewish people, we would have no redemptive story.
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- We are in their debt.
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- They have paid an enormous price through centuries of history.
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- They have been hunted and hated and persecuted.
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- They have been accused.
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- And as much as we would like to separate ourselves from that
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- Narrative, it informs our story and we see it emerging in the
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- 21st century again.
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- In romans chapter 1 and verse 16, the apostle paul wrote, "i'm
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- Not ashamed of the gospel, because it's the power of god
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- For the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the jew,
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- Then for the gentile."
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- Human beings having a fallen nature, the carnal nature, an
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- Adamic nature, the basest part of ourselves, and we share this
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- In common, does not honor god.
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- So it should be no surprise to us that very early in the
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- Emerging story of jesus people, the church, that there was
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- Conflict between the jewish community where our faith
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- Started--the church that we meet in the opening chapters of
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- The book of acts was a jewish church.
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- They didn't think of themselves as a church.
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- They thought of themselves as a jewish community who believed
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- That jesus of nazareth was messiah.
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- Labels would come later.
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- But it didn't take long.
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- By the time the message had spread to rome and the jewish
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- Community was driven out of rome in another expression of the
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- Hatred of the jews, the non-jews stepped into those places
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- Of authority.
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- And one of the first recorded conflicts between gentile
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- Believers and jewish believers emerged.
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- So paul writes in his letter to rome some corrections.
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- He said, i believe in the gospel of salvation: to the jew first.
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- He's speaking to the non-jewish community.
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- We'll look at that in a bit more detail in a moment.
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- Then in revelation chapter 5, last book of our new testament,
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- A scene from the throne room of god, familiar to many of you.
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- John has this amazing vision of the culmination of the age, and
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- He sees the book that holds the narrative, the scroll that holds
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- The narrative, but he's given the message that there's no one
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- Worthy to open the scroll, and he begins to weep.
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- I look forward to the time when we care enough about god's
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- Unfolding purposes that when they're not clear to us, we are
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- Moved to emotion.
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- Most of us just go on vacation.
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- We have to have a new cadence, church.
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- Our cities are on fire.
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- Our schools are more about propaganda than they
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- Are education.
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- We've set aside the rule of law, and the church is still
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- Dithering on whether or not we should engage the culture in
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- Which we live and lead with our faith.
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- We have to make a change.
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- We do.
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- As much as i want to look through the windows of the
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- Church and point accusing fingers at whoever it is we
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- Don't like on the other end of the ideological spectrum, the
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- Reality is it's been the diminished expression of faith
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- From the people of god that has given place to evil in
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- The world.
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- We're introduced to that story early in our bibles and it
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- Carries right through.
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- John's weeping because there's no one found to open the scroll.
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- I haven't forgotten where i was.
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- It's revelation 5.
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- And an elder says there's one who can open the scroll.
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- And that's the verse you have in your notes.
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- "the elders said, 'don't weep!
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- The lion of the tribe of judah, the root of david, has
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- Triumphed, and he's able to open the scroll and its
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- Seven seals.'"
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- It's jesus.
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- And when we see him in the book of revelation at the culmination
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- Of the end of the age, i think it's beyond significant to
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- Understand how he's identified to us.
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- He's the lion of the tribe of judah.
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- Judah, one of the 12 tribes, the contraction of which is where we
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- Get the word "jew" today.
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- Jesus is identified to us with a complete affiliation, alignment,
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- With the jewish people.
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- No separation from them.
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- He's not identified as the head of the church, although he's
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- Identified that way in the new testament.
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- That's not how we see him at the end of the age.
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- In the throne room of god at the culmination of the ages, he's
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- Identified as the lion of the tribe of judah.
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- At the conclusion of this age has not in any way diminished
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- Jesus's association with the jewish people.
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- And neither should we.
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- Allen: now how should we respond to the nation of israel and the
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- Jewish people?
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- It's a complex question in today's world.
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- Well, i've written a book, "supporting israel: how far is
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- Too far?"
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- To help us establish a biblical perspective on what has become a
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- Complex question in contemporary culture.
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- Of the elite universities in this nation.
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- Allen: i'll give you just a bit of linguistics.
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- Forgive me.
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- If you hate word studies, just hold your breath for a minute,
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- It'll pass.
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- But there's no other nation like israel.
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- There just isn't, in the history of all the nations.
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- And particularly for those of us who are people of the book, the
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- Word "israel" or "israelite" is used 79 times in the new
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- Testament, but never is the word "israel" used as a name for the
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- Church, not once in 79 expressions.
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- In all but two of those occasions it's used in exactly
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- The same way as it is in the old testament.
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- In fact, nine passages are direct quotations from the old
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- Testament or the hebrew bible, and in every one of them, the
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- Usage in the new testament is the same as the usage in
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- The old.
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- There are two passages, romans 9:6 and galatians 6:16, where
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- Israel is used in a restricted sense.
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- Paul applies it only to those israelites who by faith have
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- Received jesus as their messiah.
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- But in the new testament israel is never extended beyond the
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- Natural meaning of the word "israel."
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- It is never extended to include believers from
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- Other backgrounds.
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- And it's a total error from a biblical perspective to make use
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- Of the word "israel" in that way.
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- A bit further, the word "jew" occurs 75 times in the old
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- Testament, 180 times in the new.
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- On the other hand, just for reference sake, the word
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- "christian" occurs three times in the new testament.
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- The numbers do seem to suggest the significance the lord has
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- Placed on the people in the nation of israel.
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- How have we moved so far from that biblical perspective?
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- To frame it in a personal way, i'm a gentile.
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- And i will freely declare that my whole spiritual inheritance
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- And every spiritual blessing that i have ever enjoyed, i owe
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- To one people: the jewish people.
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- Without them, there are no patriarchs, no prophets, no
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- Apostles, no bible, and no savior.
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- Jesus said, and i believe, "salvation is of the jews."
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- We had better remember that truth and conduct
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- Ourselves accordingly.
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- It's not complicated.
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- And those who seek to make it complicated aren't paying
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- Attention to the scripture.
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- Israel is unique.
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- In 1 chronicle 17, in verse 21 it says: "who is like your
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- People israel--the one nation on earth whose god went out to
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- Redeem a people for himself, and to make a name for yourself, and
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- To perform great and awesome wonders by driving out nations
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- From before your people, whom you redeemed from egypt?"
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- If we pray for the nation of israel like we pray for all the
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- Other nations, i don't believe we would be praying in line
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- With scripture.
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- It's a unique people with a unique destiny, expressing of
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- The uniqueness of the god who made a covenant with them, from
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- Which all of us have benefited.
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- This notion of a chosen people that some are so willing to set
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- Aside, to imagine that the jewish people have been rejected
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- Or replaced.
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- Deuteronomy 7 and verse 6 says: "you're a people holy to the
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- Lord god.
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- The lord your god has chosen you out of all the peoples on the
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- Face of the earth to be his people, his
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- Treasured possession."
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- I mentioned already that the battle in rome had broken out
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- When the jews were expelled and the gentiles stepped into places
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- Of authority in the church.
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- Paul addresses it in romans 11.
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- He said, "i ask then: did god reject his people?"
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- This isn't some theoretical question i'm putting to you.
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- It's a question that was in place already early in the
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- Unfolding story of the people of god, and paul asked it, as a
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- Pharisee, no simple question to him.
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- Did god reject his people?
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- And the answer in the greek language is far more impactful
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- Than it is in english.
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- It's the strongest declarative tense that could be used.
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- He says, "by no means!"
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- God forbid, absolutely not.
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- "i'm an israelite myself, a descendant of abraham, from the
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- Tribe of benjamin.
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- God did not reject his people."
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- There's nothing we add to that.
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- Now, i would add a bit of caution.
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- As i've mentioned, i've been in and out of the land of israel
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- Since i was a boy.
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- I had the privilege of studying at the university there.
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- I've been with christians in a variety of perspectives.
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- On a typical weekend in this place, we have people from more
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- Than 50 christian traditions, peacefully.
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- So i haven't seen everything but i've seen enough to have an
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- Informed opinion.
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- And there are some times when the topic of israel comes up or
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- The jewish people come up that christians and people of the
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- Christian faith get a bit, shall we say, enthusiastic.
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- And i'm an advocate.
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- But i think there is a note of caution.
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- Just because it's stamped "made in israel" doesn't mean
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- It's godly.
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- I don't say that in any way to denigrate my israeli friends or
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- My jewish friends, but not everything in israel should be
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- Supported or celebrated.
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- In the same way i would submit to you that everything that
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- Emerges from places called churches should not be
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- Celebrated or supported.
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- Israel is a secular society, with secular leaders that
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- They elect.
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- And they make choices that are good and they make choices that
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- Are bad.
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- And it doesn't take great discernment always, sometimes it
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- Does, but it doesn't take great discernment always to know that
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- They're making choices that are ungodly against the counsel of
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- The hebrew bible.
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- When you pray for the peace of jerusalem, it's not a political
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- Peace you're primarily praying for, but that the people of the
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- Land would have peace with their god.
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- The same way we pray for our own nation.
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- We have politicians and political parties and ideas and
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- Ideologies and policies that are put forth that we don't
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- Agree with.
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- It's not simple and neat.
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- But christians often confuse it, and i would submit there's three
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- Things required of us: an awareness.
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- We actually need some information.
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- It takes a bit of work and effort.
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- You'll need to add to that a knowledge of scripture because
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- Apart from the framework of scripture, you won't have a
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- Gridwork for understanding what you see.
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- And thirdly, you need discernment.
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- That takes a dependence upon the holy spirit.
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- Because at the end of the day, the spirit of god is present in
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- The earth to lead and guide.
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- Without that, you'll be easily manipulated.
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- You'll be frequently deceived.
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- I don't have a simple way through that.
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- If you haven't been in a church that gave you any biblical
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- Perspective, if you're not familiar with the prophetic
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- Passages, if all of that is a mystery to you, some effort will
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- Be required.
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- We don't live in a simple world.
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- If you'll allow me just some personal observations for a
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- Moment: i have a tremendous respect for the
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- Jewish traditions.
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- But i don't imagine that following them will make me more
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- Spiritual or holy.
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- I understand them as my friends and as my fellow journeyers, we
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- Share a worldview together and we're connected by the pages
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- Of scripture.
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- But again, sometimes, i shake my head a bit at my christian
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- Friends referring to jesus as yeshua.
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- It's okay with me, but it doesn't seem appropriate unless
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- Hebrew is your native tongue.
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- Unless you're gonna refer to jesus in all the other languages
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- That you have some baseline familiarity with.
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- Keeping jewish holidays, i believe we need to
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- Understand them.
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- I think it's respectful.
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- I have celebrated those holidays with friends in israel
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- And beyond.
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- I'm not opposed to that.
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- Recognize them as a part of our biblical tradition, and the
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- Story of the jewish people is appropriate; imagining them as
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- Essential to our christian faith can be confusing.
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- The kosher diet i think would be wonderful for your
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- Physical health.
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- But i don't know that it would serve your spiritual formation.
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- Not opposed to it.
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- There's a lot of confusion in the christian church.
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- Co-opting jewish traditions or jewish holidays and imagining
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- Following them without giving attention to the other
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- Instructions god has given us doesn't bring
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- Heightened spirituality.
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- So how do we pray for israel?
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- I spent my whole life hearing christians say we should pray
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- For israel, pray for the peace of jerusalem.
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- It's almost like a toy you pull the string and that's the phrase
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- That comes out of us.
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- I thought a good bit about it and i knew my time would be
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- Limited because i have a hard time being quiet.
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- So i brought you my reduced version of the best prayer
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- For israel.
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- It's romans chapter 10 in verse 1.
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- Paul said, "my heart's desire
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- And prayer to god for the israelites is that they may
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- Be saved."
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- I don't know a better prayer.
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- Don't add to it.
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- Don't embellish it.
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- It seems to me the presentation is very clear.
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- It's coming from a pharisee, someone whose entire life had
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- Been spent in rabbinic studies.
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- He knew the word of god better than all of us do collectively,
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- I'm quite confident.
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- And he said his heart's desire for the israelites is that they
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- Might be saved.
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- If a person is not saved, the person is lost.
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- In a biblical perspective, there's no third option, there's
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- Nothing between the two.
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- The most important step in the life of any person, jew or
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- Gentile, is to be saved, to know they're saved.
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- Now we interpret that based upon the perspective from where
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- We stand.
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- If we grew up southern baptist we think well that surely would
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- Require just as i am.
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- If we grew up in the roman catholic tradition, it would
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- Surely require a priest.
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- If we grew up in the pentecostal tradition, it would require some
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- Running probably.
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- Oh, i've been there, it's okay.
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- But we tend to interpret that in light of the perspective from
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- Which we stand.
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- The fundamental of that, as i understand it, is to recognize
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- Jesus of nazareth as the messiah.
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- The labels that follow that have far more to do with your
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- Traditions and your perspectives than they do the reality
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- Of scripture.
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- Listen to jesus's words in john chapter 8 in verse 24.
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- This was jesus speaking to a jewish community in jerusalem.
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- He said, "i told you that you would die in your sins; if you
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- Don't believe that i am the one i claim to be, you will indeed
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- Die in your sins."
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- It's a jew speaking to jews.
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- This predates anything that you could use or confuse with
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- The church.
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- It's jesus speaking to the jewish people, asking them to
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- Consider who he is.
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- That's my prayer for my friends in israel, that they would have
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- A revelation of jesus, that it wouldn't be muddied by the poor
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- Behavior of people who say they're his followers.
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- That our bad history would not influence the decisions they
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- Have to make for themselves and their families.
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- It's an uncomfortable history.
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- I've sat in classrooms filled with jewish students and we'd
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- Walk through the history and they would turn and look at me
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- And say, "why do you hate us so much?"
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- There's no simple answer.
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- In john 10 and verse 9, jesus said, "i'm the gate; whoever
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- Enters through me will be saved."
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- If you wanna pray with a bit more specificity for your
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- Friends in the land of israel and the nation, pray they'll
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- Have a revelation of jesus.
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- Not to change faiths.
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- Stop with your labels.
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- Ask them to have a revelation of jesus.
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- I believe we have a debt to israel and the jewish people.
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- It's not just my opinion, it's derived from scripture.
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- In romans chapter 9 and verse 3, again the apostle paul.
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- He said, "i could wish that i myself were cursed and cut off
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- From christ for the sake of my brothers, those of my own race,
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- The people of israel.
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- Theirs is the adoption as sons; theirs is the divine glory, the
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- Covenants, the receiving of the law, the temple worship, and
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- The promises.
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- Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human
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- Ancestry of christ, who is god over all, forever praised!"
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- Without the jewish people, folks, we have no story.
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- We would have no covenants, we would have no prophets, we would
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- Have no scripture.
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- We would have no messiah.
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- The new testament in the book of revelation describes a heavenly
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- Jerusalem, a new jerusalem coming down out of heaven, and
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- At the center of that, that new jerusalem, is seated on the
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- Throne at the center of the city, an observant jewish rabbi.
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- The gates entering the city all have the names of hebrew men
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- Inscribed above them.
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- It will be a very awkward place for antisemites.
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- Allen: you know, i used to believe that antisemitism was a
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- European problem or an issue in the islamic nations of the
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- World, but now we see it flourishing in our nation, on
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- Elite college campuses, even amongst the political class and
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- Now on the conservative ideological spectrum.
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- It's troubling.
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- So i wrote a book, "supporting israel: how far is too far?"
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- You know, i know we've all got a little battle fatigue with the
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- Constant conflicts in the middle east and beyond, but what we
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- Desperately need is a biblical perspective on how to navigate
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- What's unfolding in our world, and i believe the word of god
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- Gives that to us with clarity.
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- So we put this book together to help you find yourself in a
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- Place that will bring the blessings of god to your life.
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- I wanna pray that we'll have his wisdom.
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- Father, you said when we lack wisdom, we could ask and that
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- You would give it to us without criticism.
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- We want to stand with you in what you're accomplishing in the
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- Earth so that your purposes can come forth.
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- Holy spirit, give us the discernment we need, in jesus's
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- Name, amen.
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- ♪♪♪
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