Allen Jackson - Israel, God's People, and The Nations (Part 1)

October 27, 2025 | 28:35

Pastor Allen Jackson's mission is to help people become fully devoted followers of Jesus Christ.

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  • Allen jackson: you know, we're witnessing something of a crisis
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  • In our nation, something i never thought i would see: expressions
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  • Of antisemitism, hatred for the jewish people, coming from
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  • America, coming from the christian community, the
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  • Conservative side of the ideological spectrum, to a
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  • Degree and scope i've never seen before.
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  • Well, it was important enough that i stopped and put together
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  • A book.
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  • The title of it is "supporting israel: how far is too far?"
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  • It's an important concept that isn't political.
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  • It's grounded in a biblical worldview.
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  • I think we need to understand our responsibilities to the
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  • Jewish people, to the modern-day state of israel, not from an
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  • Ideological perspective, not from the perspective of nation
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  • States, but as people of god.
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  • It's important.
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  • It's an important season, a lot of voices.
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  • You know, i know there's some fatigue with the conflict in the
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  • Middle east, but we can't afford to be fatigued with our
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  • Assignments to honor god and the responsibilities that come
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  • With that.
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  • I believe the book will be a help to you.
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  • I believe it'll help you navigate the conversation with
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  • Your family and your friends.
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  • Enjoy the read.
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • Allen: amen, i thank you for being here today.
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  • You know, there's a bit of a somber note, i suppose, to this
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  • Day commemorating october 7th, and it was a horrific day.
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  • More jewish people killed on that single day than any day
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  • Since the holocaust, a repetition of history.
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  • The jewish people had no imagination that could happen in
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  • The land of israel.
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  • But i also think it's a triumphant day and i don't wanna
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  • Miss that.
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  • You know, i visited israel.
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  • My parents took my brother and i when we were boys, which it's
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  • Been a day or two.
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  • And israel was very much a developing country.
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  • It was a very different place.
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  • Today, they're one of the world leaders in tech startups, one of
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  • The most technically sophisticated places in
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  • The world.
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  • Their desalination plants: i mean, they have an abundance
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  • Of water.
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  • It's a flourishing nation, an island of productivity in the
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  • Midst of really a boiling pot of many other things.
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  • And if we miss what god is doing in the land of israel, i--
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  • There's no way to understand the modern nation of israel other
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  • Than a miracle of biblical proportions: the god who keeps
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  • His promises to a people.
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  • Not without a cost, not without a price.
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  • They're some of the most diligent, faithful, vigilant
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  • People i've ever known.
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  • When i visit israel, i always come home with a greater
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  • Determination to be faithful in my own assignments in the earth.
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  • But when you hear the news about israel or you hear the
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  • Renunciations of israel, you understand that god is moving in
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  • The midst of that nation.
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  • It truly is a celebration.
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  • There's nothing quite like it anywhere in the world.
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  • In the million of a sea of tens and hundreds of millions of
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  • People sworn to their destruction, tiny
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  • Israel flourishes.
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  • It's the most remarkable thing i've seen.
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  • My israeli friends will go to the coffee shop and the sirens
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  • Will go off and they'll run from the coffee shop to the shelters.
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  • And the sirens will stop and they'll go back and finish their
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  • Cup of coffee.
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  • We close our world if we get a quarter of an inch of snow.
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  • I'm just saying.
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  • So we're honored today to celebrate what god is doing in
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  • The land of israel.
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  • October 7th was a step too far.
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  • You know, it's not the point of my message and don't take it off
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  • My time, but since october 7th, as horrific as the day was and
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  • The hostages that are still not released, since that day, iran's
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  • Authority over the middle east has been totally diminished.
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  • Hezbollah in the north, a threat that had loomed over the
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  • Israelis for two decades, has lost almost all threat.
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  • Hamas is hanging on but by a thread.
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  • God has moved in the most remarkable way.
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  • And one of our challenge is to be sure we keep our attentions
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  • Focused on the good things that god is doing and not allow evil
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  • To form a place in the center of our thoughts and certainly not
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  • In the center of our hearts.
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  • We can't afford to choose hatred.
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  • It will poison your soul.
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  • We have a different assignment.
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  • It doesn't mean we're tolerant of evil.
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  • It doesn't mean we embrace wickedness.
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  • It doesn't mean there's no boundaries.
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  • When god said "thou shalt not," he didn't offer it as
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  • A suggestion.
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  • But in the midst of the sovereignty of god, we can
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  • Reject hate.
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  • And it's an important season for us.
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  • If you were with us in the previous session, i want to
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  • Complete what we began.
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  • The title is "israel, god's people, and the nations."
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  • It's a topic over which there's a great deal of debate
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  • These days.
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  • Since october 7th, antisemitism has been expressed in this
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  • Nation in ways i never imagined possible.
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  • It was one of the unanticipated consequences of that day.
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  • From places that we thought were elite; i no longer refer to them
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  • In that way.
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  • I think they're temporary.
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  • I think their influence will diminish with each passing day.
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  • But then i've seen that same antisemitism expressed from
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  • Voices on the conservative side of the spectrum and frequently
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  • From people within the church or christian community.
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  • It surprised me.
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  • I know better.
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  • Throughout history for more than 1700 years, the christian
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  • Community have been the primary sponsors of antisemitism.
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  • We don't know our history well enough to be aware of that, but
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  • It is the truth.
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  • We're gonna talk about israel and god's people and
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  • The nations.
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  • Israel, the covenant people of god, god's people, all those
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  • Peoples in covenant with the god of abraham, isaac, and jacob.
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  • And the nations: everybody else.
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  • The bible's pretty clear in the way it looks at the world and
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  • The people that are in it.
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  • If you'll allow me just a bit of history, briefly, david was king
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  • In jerusalem 1000 years, plus or minus, before the birth
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  • Of christ.
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  • A jewish king on the throne in the city of jerusalem more than
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  • 1500 years before the birth of muhammad, long before there was
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  • A discussion about islam.
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  • So the jewish presence in the land of israel.
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  • Jerusalem is the capital city of the jewish people, really isn't
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  • A question for historical debate.
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  • And there's a great deal of confusion around that.
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  • It's impossible to understand our bible, either the old
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  • Testament, the hebrew bible, or our new testament, without
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  • Understanding the role of the jewish people, the covenant that
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  • God made with the descendants of abraham, isaac, and jacob, and
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  • It was very specific, if you know the text: he made the
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  • Covenant with abraham, with his son isaac, and his son jacob.
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  • Without that understanding, without that context, the bible
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  • Makes no sense.
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  • In fact, the bible tells us without that context we have no
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  • Savior and we have no redemption.
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  • So it's troubling to me to find ourselves in a place where there
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  • Are prominent voices that seek to convince us that the modern
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  • Nation of israel and biblical israel are not connected.
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  • And you hear that more frequently than i would like.
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  • That we have little or no responsibility to the modern
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  • Nation of israel.
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  • Often, these people that make statements that are that naive
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  • Or biblically ill-informed will make statements like we have no
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  • Responsibility to the culture in which we live.
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  • I don't accept either of them.
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  • I wanna start there with just a few simple verses of scripture
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  • That perhaps will help you begin to imagine the role that the
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  • Jewish people have in our faith.
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  • In john chapter 4 and verse 22, jesus is speaking.
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  • That would be authoritative, for those of you taking notes
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  • At home.
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  • He said, "you samaritans worship what you do not know; but we
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  • Worship what we do know, for salvation is from the jews."
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  • Really, there's nothing to be said after that.
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  • Apart from the jewish people, we would have no redemptive story.
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  • We are in their debt.
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  • They have paid an enormous price through centuries of history.
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  • They have been hunted and hated and persecuted.
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  • They have been accused.
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  • And as much as we would like to separate ourselves from that
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  • Narrative, it informs our story and we see it emerging in the
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  • 21st century again.
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  • In romans chapter 1 and verse 16, the apostle paul wrote, "i'm
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  • Not ashamed of the gospel, because it's the power of god
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  • For the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the jew,
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  • Then for the gentile."
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  • Human beings having a fallen nature, the carnal nature, an
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  • Adamic nature, the basest part of ourselves, and we share this
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  • In common, does not honor god.
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  • So it should be no surprise to us that very early in the
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  • Emerging story of jesus people, the church, that there was
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  • Conflict between the jewish community where our faith
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  • Started--the church that we meet in the opening chapters of
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  • The book of acts was a jewish church.
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  • They didn't think of themselves as a church.
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  • They thought of themselves as a jewish community who believed
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  • That jesus of nazareth was messiah.
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  • Labels would come later.
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  • But it didn't take long.
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  • By the time the message had spread to rome and the jewish
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  • Community was driven out of rome in another expression of the
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  • Hatred of the jews, the non-jews stepped into those places
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  • Of authority.
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  • And one of the first recorded conflicts between gentile
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  • Believers and jewish believers emerged.
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  • So paul writes in his letter to rome some corrections.
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  • He said, i believe in the gospel of salvation: to the jew first.
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  • He's speaking to the non-jewish community.
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  • We'll look at that in a bit more detail in a moment.
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  • Then in revelation chapter 5, last book of our new testament,
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  • A scene from the throne room of god, familiar to many of you.
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  • John has this amazing vision of the culmination of the age, and
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  • He sees the book that holds the narrative, the scroll that holds
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  • The narrative, but he's given the message that there's no one
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  • Worthy to open the scroll, and he begins to weep.
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  • I look forward to the time when we care enough about god's
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  • Unfolding purposes that when they're not clear to us, we are
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  • Moved to emotion.
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  • Most of us just go on vacation.
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  • We have to have a new cadence, church.
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  • Our cities are on fire.
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  • Our schools are more about propaganda than they
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  • Are education.
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  • We've set aside the rule of law, and the church is still
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  • Dithering on whether or not we should engage the culture in
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  • Which we live and lead with our faith.
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  • We have to make a change.
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  • We do.
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  • As much as i want to look through the windows of the
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  • Church and point accusing fingers at whoever it is we
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  • Don't like on the other end of the ideological spectrum, the
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  • Reality is it's been the diminished expression of faith
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  • From the people of god that has given place to evil in
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  • The world.
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  • We're introduced to that story early in our bibles and it
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  • Carries right through.
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  • John's weeping because there's no one found to open the scroll.
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  • I haven't forgotten where i was.
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  • It's revelation 5.
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  • And an elder says there's one who can open the scroll.
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  • And that's the verse you have in your notes.
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  • "the elders said, 'don't weep!
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  • The lion of the tribe of judah, the root of david, has
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  • Triumphed, and he's able to open the scroll and its
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  • Seven seals.'"
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  • It's jesus.
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  • And when we see him in the book of revelation at the culmination
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  • Of the end of the age, i think it's beyond significant to
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  • Understand how he's identified to us.
  • 00:11:35.543 --> 00:11:37.846
  • He's the lion of the tribe of judah.
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  • Judah, one of the 12 tribes, the contraction of which is where we
  • 00:11:40.181 --> 00:11:42.784
  • Get the word "jew" today.
  • 00:11:42.784 --> 00:11:45.186
  • Jesus is identified to us with a complete affiliation, alignment,
  • 00:11:45.186 --> 00:11:50.158
  • With the jewish people.
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  • No separation from them.
  • 00:11:52.193 --> 00:11:54.129
  • He's not identified as the head of the church, although he's
  • 00:11:54.129 --> 00:11:56.264
  • Identified that way in the new testament.
  • 00:11:56.264 --> 00:11:59.033
  • That's not how we see him at the end of the age.
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  • In the throne room of god at the culmination of the ages, he's
  • 00:12:01.536 --> 00:12:04.806
  • Identified as the lion of the tribe of judah.
  • 00:12:04.806 --> 00:12:08.209
  • At the conclusion of this age has not in any way diminished
  • 00:12:08.209 --> 00:12:12.347
  • Jesus's association with the jewish people.
  • 00:12:12.347 --> 00:12:15.650
  • And neither should we.
  • 00:12:15.650 --> 00:12:21.055
  • Allen: now how should we respond to the nation of israel and the
  • 00:12:25.293 --> 00:12:28.096
  • Jewish people?
  • 00:12:28.096 --> 00:12:29.464
  • It's a complex question in today's world.
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  • Well, i've written a book, "supporting israel: how far is
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  • Too far?"
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  • To help us establish a biblical perspective on what has become a
  • 00:12:35.770 --> 00:12:39.641
  • Complex question in contemporary culture.
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  • We don't wanna follow the guidance and the counsel of some
  • 00:12:42.644 --> 00:12:45.513
  • Of the elite universities in this nation.
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  • We wanna form a perspective that's built from god's word.
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  • Allen: i'll give you just a bit of linguistics.
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  • Forgive me.
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  • If you hate word studies, just hold your breath for a minute,
  • 00:14:00.188 --> 00:14:01.789
  • It'll pass.
  • 00:14:01.789 --> 00:14:03.191
  • But there's no other nation like israel.
  • 00:14:03.191 --> 00:14:05.593
  • There just isn't, in the history of all the nations.
  • 00:14:05.593 --> 00:14:08.363
  • And particularly for those of us who are people of the book, the
  • 00:14:08.363 --> 00:14:11.366
  • Word "israel" or "israelite" is used 79 times in the new
  • 00:14:11.366 --> 00:14:14.102
  • Testament, but never is the word "israel" used as a name for the
  • 00:14:14.102 --> 00:14:16.938
  • Church, not once in 79 expressions.
  • 00:14:16.938 --> 00:14:21.242
  • In all but two of those occasions it's used in exactly
  • 00:14:21.242 --> 00:14:23.778
  • The same way as it is in the old testament.
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  • In fact, nine passages are direct quotations from the old
  • 00:14:26.514 --> 00:14:29.784
  • Testament or the hebrew bible, and in every one of them, the
  • 00:14:29.784 --> 00:14:32.620
  • Usage in the new testament is the same as the usage in
  • 00:14:32.620 --> 00:14:35.089
  • The old.
  • 00:14:35.089 --> 00:14:37.091
  • There are two passages, romans 9:6 and galatians 6:16, where
  • 00:14:37.091 --> 00:14:41.062
  • Israel is used in a restricted sense.
  • 00:14:41.062 --> 00:14:44.132
  • Paul applies it only to those israelites who by faith have
  • 00:14:44.132 --> 00:14:47.502
  • Received jesus as their messiah.
  • 00:14:47.502 --> 00:14:50.071
  • But in the new testament israel is never extended beyond the
  • 00:14:50.071 --> 00:14:53.107
  • Natural meaning of the word "israel."
  • 00:14:53.107 --> 00:14:55.510
  • It is never extended to include believers from
  • 00:14:55.510 --> 00:14:58.212
  • Other backgrounds.
  • 00:14:58.212 --> 00:15:00.081
  • And it's a total error from a biblical perspective to make use
  • 00:15:00.081 --> 00:15:03.751
  • Of the word "israel" in that way.
  • 00:15:03.751 --> 00:15:07.188
  • A bit further, the word "jew" occurs 75 times in the old
  • 00:15:07.188 --> 00:15:11.326
  • Testament, 180 times in the new.
  • 00:15:11.326 --> 00:15:14.228
  • On the other hand, just for reference sake, the word
  • 00:15:14.228 --> 00:15:16.230
  • "christian" occurs three times in the new testament.
  • 00:15:16.230 --> 00:15:21.602
  • The numbers do seem to suggest the significance the lord has
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  • Placed on the people in the nation of israel.
  • 00:15:24.272 --> 00:15:27.642
  • How have we moved so far from that biblical perspective?
  • 00:15:27.642 --> 00:15:31.679
  • To frame it in a personal way, i'm a gentile.
  • 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:35.116
  • And i will freely declare that my whole spiritual inheritance
  • 00:15:35.116 --> 00:15:38.219
  • And every spiritual blessing that i have ever enjoyed, i owe
  • 00:15:38.219 --> 00:15:41.689
  • To one people: the jewish people.
  • 00:15:41.689 --> 00:15:45.460
  • Without them, there are no patriarchs, no prophets, no
  • 00:15:45.460 --> 00:15:48.396
  • Apostles, no bible, and no savior.
  • 00:15:48.396 --> 00:15:51.799
  • Jesus said, and i believe, "salvation is of the jews."
  • 00:15:51.799 --> 00:15:56.137
  • We had better remember that truth and conduct
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  • Ourselves accordingly.
  • 00:15:59.107 --> 00:16:01.376
  • It's not complicated.
  • 00:16:01.376 --> 00:16:03.378
  • And those who seek to make it complicated aren't paying
  • 00:16:03.378 --> 00:16:06.447
  • Attention to the scripture.
  • 00:16:06.447 --> 00:16:07.782
  • Israel is unique.
  • 00:16:07.782 --> 00:16:09.250
  • In 1 chronicle 17, in verse 21 it says: "who is like your
  • 00:16:09.250 --> 00:16:12.387
  • People israel--the one nation on earth whose god went out to
  • 00:16:12.387 --> 00:16:15.623
  • Redeem a people for himself, and to make a name for yourself, and
  • 00:16:15.623 --> 00:16:19.394
  • To perform great and awesome wonders by driving out nations
  • 00:16:19.394 --> 00:16:22.296
  • From before your people, whom you redeemed from egypt?"
  • 00:16:22.296 --> 00:16:27.135
  • If we pray for the nation of israel like we pray for all the
  • 00:16:27.135 --> 00:16:29.837
  • Other nations, i don't believe we would be praying in line
  • 00:16:29.837 --> 00:16:33.107
  • With scripture.
  • 00:16:33.107 --> 00:16:35.243
  • It's a unique people with a unique destiny, expressing of
  • 00:16:35.243 --> 00:16:39.614
  • The uniqueness of the god who made a covenant with them, from
  • 00:16:39.614 --> 00:16:43.584
  • Which all of us have benefited.
  • 00:16:43.584 --> 00:16:47.622
  • This notion of a chosen people that some are so willing to set
  • 00:16:47.622 --> 00:16:50.458
  • Aside, to imagine that the jewish people have been rejected
  • 00:16:50.458 --> 00:16:54.095
  • Or replaced.
  • 00:16:54.095 --> 00:16:55.630
  • Deuteronomy 7 and verse 6 says: "you're a people holy to the
  • 00:16:55.630 --> 00:16:58.733
  • Lord god.
  • 00:16:58.733 --> 00:17:00.068
  • The lord your god has chosen you out of all the peoples on the
  • 00:17:00.068 --> 00:17:01.936
  • Face of the earth to be his people, his
  • 00:17:01.936 --> 00:17:03.838
  • Treasured possession."
  • 00:17:03.838 --> 00:17:07.508
  • I mentioned already that the battle in rome had broken out
  • 00:17:07.508 --> 00:17:10.244
  • When the jews were expelled and the gentiles stepped into places
  • 00:17:10.244 --> 00:17:13.014
  • Of authority in the church.
  • 00:17:13.014 --> 00:17:15.016
  • Paul addresses it in romans 11.
  • 00:17:15.016 --> 00:17:16.584
  • He said, "i ask then: did god reject his people?"
  • 00:17:16.584 --> 00:17:20.288
  • This isn't some theoretical question i'm putting to you.
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  • It's a question that was in place already early in the
  • 00:17:22.523 --> 00:17:25.660
  • Unfolding story of the people of god, and paul asked it, as a
  • 00:17:25.660 --> 00:17:28.629
  • Pharisee, no simple question to him.
  • 00:17:28.629 --> 00:17:31.466
  • Did god reject his people?
  • 00:17:31.466 --> 00:17:34.068
  • And the answer in the greek language is far more impactful
  • 00:17:34.068 --> 00:17:37.205
  • Than it is in english.
  • 00:17:37.205 --> 00:17:38.739
  • It's the strongest declarative tense that could be used.
  • 00:17:38.739 --> 00:17:41.209
  • He says, "by no means!"
  • 00:17:41.209 --> 00:17:42.543
  • God forbid, absolutely not.
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  • "i'm an israelite myself, a descendant of abraham, from the
  • 00:17:45.680 --> 00:17:48.316
  • Tribe of benjamin.
  • 00:17:48.316 --> 00:17:49.784
  • God did not reject his people."
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  • There's nothing we add to that.
  • 00:17:53.087 --> 00:17:56.424
  • Now, i would add a bit of caution.
  • 00:17:56.424 --> 00:17:58.993
  • As i've mentioned, i've been in and out of the land of israel
  • 00:17:58.993 --> 00:18:01.028
  • Since i was a boy.
  • 00:18:01.028 --> 00:18:02.363
  • I had the privilege of studying at the university there.
  • 00:18:02.363 --> 00:18:04.098
  • I've been with christians in a variety of perspectives.
  • 00:18:04.098 --> 00:18:07.568
  • On a typical weekend in this place, we have people from more
  • 00:18:07.568 --> 00:18:09.937
  • Than 50 christian traditions, peacefully.
  • 00:18:09.937 --> 00:18:18.579
  • So i haven't seen everything but i've seen enough to have an
  • 00:18:18.579 --> 00:18:21.315
  • Informed opinion.
  • 00:18:21.315 --> 00:18:23.584
  • And there are some times when the topic of israel comes up or
  • 00:18:23.584 --> 00:18:25.920
  • The jewish people come up that christians and people of the
  • 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:28.523
  • Christian faith get a bit, shall we say, enthusiastic.
  • 00:18:28.523 --> 00:18:35.997
  • And i'm an advocate.
  • 00:18:35.997 --> 00:18:40.234
  • But i think there is a note of caution.
  • 00:18:40.234 --> 00:18:42.870
  • Just because it's stamped "made in israel" doesn't mean
  • 00:18:42.870 --> 00:18:44.939
  • It's godly.
  • 00:18:44.939 --> 00:18:48.409
  • I don't say that in any way to denigrate my israeli friends or
  • 00:18:48.409 --> 00:18:51.512
  • My jewish friends, but not everything in israel should be
  • 00:18:51.512 --> 00:18:53.881
  • Supported or celebrated.
  • 00:18:53.881 --> 00:18:56.250
  • In the same way i would submit to you that everything that
  • 00:18:56.250 --> 00:18:58.786
  • Emerges from places called churches should not be
  • 00:18:58.786 --> 00:19:00.955
  • Celebrated or supported.
  • 00:19:00.955 --> 00:19:03.691
  • Israel is a secular society, with secular leaders that
  • 00:19:03.691 --> 00:19:07.428
  • They elect.
  • 00:19:07.428 --> 00:19:09.931
  • And they make choices that are good and they make choices that
  • 00:19:09.931 --> 00:19:12.567
  • Are bad.
  • 00:19:12.567 --> 00:19:14.335
  • And it doesn't take great discernment always, sometimes it
  • 00:19:14.335 --> 00:19:16.637
  • Does, but it doesn't take great discernment always to know that
  • 00:19:16.637 --> 00:19:18.739
  • They're making choices that are ungodly against the counsel of
  • 00:19:18.739 --> 00:19:21.409
  • The hebrew bible.
  • 00:19:21.409 --> 00:19:23.411
  • When you pray for the peace of jerusalem, it's not a political
  • 00:19:23.411 --> 00:19:26.414
  • Peace you're primarily praying for, but that the people of the
  • 00:19:26.414 --> 00:19:29.584
  • Land would have peace with their god.
  • 00:19:29.584 --> 00:19:33.688
  • The same way we pray for our own nation.
  • 00:19:33.688 --> 00:19:35.323
  • We have politicians and political parties and ideas and
  • 00:19:35.323 --> 00:19:38.192
  • Ideologies and policies that are put forth that we don't
  • 00:19:38.192 --> 00:19:41.462
  • Agree with.
  • 00:19:41.462 --> 00:19:43.831
  • It's not simple and neat.
  • 00:19:43.831 --> 00:19:46.234
  • But christians often confuse it, and i would submit there's three
  • 00:19:46.234 --> 00:19:49.003
  • Things required of us: an awareness.
  • 00:19:49.003 --> 00:19:50.705
  • We actually need some information.
  • 00:19:50.705 --> 00:19:53.040
  • It takes a bit of work and effort.
  • 00:19:53.040 --> 00:19:54.642
  • You'll need to add to that a knowledge of scripture because
  • 00:19:54.642 --> 00:19:56.777
  • Apart from the framework of scripture, you won't have a
  • 00:19:56.777 --> 00:19:59.180
  • Gridwork for understanding what you see.
  • 00:19:59.180 --> 00:20:00.915
  • And thirdly, you need discernment.
  • 00:20:00.915 --> 00:20:02.283
  • That takes a dependence upon the holy spirit.
  • 00:20:02.283 --> 00:20:06.020
  • Because at the end of the day, the spirit of god is present in
  • 00:20:06.020 --> 00:20:08.322
  • The earth to lead and guide.
  • 00:20:08.322 --> 00:20:11.325
  • Without that, you'll be easily manipulated.
  • 00:20:11.325 --> 00:20:13.527
  • You'll be frequently deceived.
  • 00:20:13.527 --> 00:20:15.930
  • I don't have a simple way through that.
  • 00:20:15.930 --> 00:20:18.699
  • If you haven't been in a church that gave you any biblical
  • 00:20:18.699 --> 00:20:21.702
  • Perspective, if you're not familiar with the prophetic
  • 00:20:21.702 --> 00:20:23.904
  • Passages, if all of that is a mystery to you, some effort will
  • 00:20:23.904 --> 00:20:26.741
  • Be required.
  • 00:20:26.741 --> 00:20:28.776
  • We don't live in a simple world.
  • 00:20:28.776 --> 00:20:32.313
  • If you'll allow me just some personal observations for a
  • 00:20:32.313 --> 00:20:34.749
  • Moment: i have a tremendous respect for the
  • 00:20:34.749 --> 00:20:37.151
  • Jewish traditions.
  • 00:20:37.151 --> 00:20:38.853
  • But i don't imagine that following them will make me more
  • 00:20:38.853 --> 00:20:41.122
  • Spiritual or holy.
  • 00:20:41.122 --> 00:20:43.858
  • I understand them as my friends and as my fellow journeyers, we
  • 00:20:43.858 --> 00:20:47.662
  • Share a worldview together and we're connected by the pages
  • 00:20:47.662 --> 00:20:50.765
  • Of scripture.
  • 00:20:50.765 --> 00:20:52.733
  • But again, sometimes, i shake my head a bit at my christian
  • 00:20:52.733 --> 00:20:55.836
  • Friends referring to jesus as yeshua.
  • 00:20:55.836 --> 00:20:57.638
  • It's okay with me, but it doesn't seem appropriate unless
  • 00:20:57.638 --> 00:21:00.308
  • Hebrew is your native tongue.
  • 00:21:00.308 --> 00:21:03.577
  • Unless you're gonna refer to jesus in all the other languages
  • 00:21:03.577 --> 00:21:05.680
  • That you have some baseline familiarity with.
  • 00:21:05.680 --> 00:21:10.484
  • Keeping jewish holidays, i believe we need to
  • 00:21:10.484 --> 00:21:12.620
  • Understand them.
  • 00:21:12.620 --> 00:21:13.954
  • I think it's respectful.
  • 00:21:13.954 --> 00:21:15.323
  • I have celebrated those holidays with friends in israel
  • 00:21:15.323 --> 00:21:17.558
  • And beyond.
  • 00:21:17.558 --> 00:21:18.926
  • I'm not opposed to that.
  • 00:21:18.926 --> 00:21:20.628
  • Recognize them as a part of our biblical tradition, and the
  • 00:21:20.628 --> 00:21:23.030
  • Story of the jewish people is appropriate; imagining them as
  • 00:21:23.030 --> 00:21:25.633
  • Essential to our christian faith can be confusing.
  • 00:21:25.633 --> 00:21:30.237
  • The kosher diet i think would be wonderful for your
  • 00:21:30.237 --> 00:21:33.674
  • Physical health.
  • 00:21:33.674 --> 00:21:36.577
  • But i don't know that it would serve your spiritual formation.
  • 00:21:36.577 --> 00:21:42.016
  • Not opposed to it.
  • 00:21:42.016 --> 00:21:44.885
  • There's a lot of confusion in the christian church.
  • 00:21:44.885 --> 00:21:47.922
  • Co-opting jewish traditions or jewish holidays and imagining
  • 00:21:47.922 --> 00:21:53.094
  • Following them without giving attention to the other
  • 00:21:53.094 --> 00:21:55.930
  • Instructions god has given us doesn't bring
  • 00:21:55.930 --> 00:22:00.468
  • Heightened spirituality.
  • 00:22:00.468 --> 00:22:04.705
  • So how do we pray for israel?
  • 00:22:04.705 --> 00:22:06.674
  • I spent my whole life hearing christians say we should pray
  • 00:22:06.674 --> 00:22:08.609
  • For israel, pray for the peace of jerusalem.
  • 00:22:08.609 --> 00:22:11.178
  • It's almost like a toy you pull the string and that's the phrase
  • 00:22:11.178 --> 00:22:14.548
  • That comes out of us.
  • 00:22:14.548 --> 00:22:16.484
  • I thought a good bit about it and i knew my time would be
  • 00:22:16.484 --> 00:22:18.452
  • Limited because i have a hard time being quiet.
  • 00:22:18.452 --> 00:22:22.223
  • So i brought you my reduced version of the best prayer
  • 00:22:22.223 --> 00:22:24.425
  • For israel.
  • 00:22:24.425 --> 00:22:25.893
  • It's romans chapter 10 in verse 1.
  • 00:22:25.893 --> 00:22:28.195
  • Paul said, "my heart's desire
  • 00:22:28.195 --> 00:22:30.631
  • And prayer to god for the israelites is that they may
  • 00:22:30.631 --> 00:22:32.833
  • Be saved."
  • 00:22:32.833 --> 00:22:34.735
  • I don't know a better prayer.
  • 00:22:34.735 --> 00:22:39.373
  • Don't add to it.
  • 00:22:37.805 --> 00:22:40.775
  • Don't embellish it.
  • 00:22:40.775 --> 00:22:42.710
  • It seems to me the presentation is very clear.
  • 00:22:42.710 --> 00:22:44.779
  • It's coming from a pharisee, someone whose entire life had
  • 00:22:44.779 --> 00:22:48.849
  • Been spent in rabbinic studies.
  • 00:22:48.849 --> 00:22:50.184
  • He knew the word of god better than all of us do collectively,
  • 00:22:50.184 --> 00:22:52.853
  • I'm quite confident.
  • 00:22:52.853 --> 00:22:55.055
  • And he said his heart's desire for the israelites is that they
  • 00:22:55.055 --> 00:22:57.992
  • Might be saved.
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  • If a person is not saved, the person is lost.
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  • In a biblical perspective, there's no third option, there's
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  • Nothing between the two.
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  • The most important step in the life of any person, jew or
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  • Gentile, is to be saved, to know they're saved.
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  • Now we interpret that based upon the perspective from where
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  • We stand.
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  • If we grew up southern baptist we think well that surely would
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  • Require just as i am.
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  • If we grew up in the roman catholic tradition, it would
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  • Surely require a priest.
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  • If we grew up in the pentecostal tradition, it would require some
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  • Running probably.
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  • Oh, i've been there, it's okay.
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  • But we tend to interpret that in light of the perspective from
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  • Which we stand.
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  • The fundamental of that, as i understand it, is to recognize
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  • Jesus of nazareth as the messiah.
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  • The labels that follow that have far more to do with your
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  • Traditions and your perspectives than they do the reality
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  • Of scripture.
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  • Listen to jesus's words in john chapter 8 in verse 24.
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  • This was jesus speaking to a jewish community in jerusalem.
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  • He said, "i told you that you would die in your sins; if you
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  • Don't believe that i am the one i claim to be, you will indeed
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  • Die in your sins."
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  • It's a jew speaking to jews.
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  • This predates anything that you could use or confuse with
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  • The church.
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  • It's jesus speaking to the jewish people, asking them to
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  • Consider who he is.
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  • That's my prayer for my friends in israel, that they would have
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  • A revelation of jesus, that it wouldn't be muddied by the poor
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  • Behavior of people who say they're his followers.
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  • That our bad history would not influence the decisions they
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  • Have to make for themselves and their families.
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  • It's an uncomfortable history.
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  • I've sat in classrooms filled with jewish students and we'd
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  • Walk through the history and they would turn and look at me
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  • And say, "why do you hate us so much?"
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  • There's no simple answer.
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  • In john 10 and verse 9, jesus said, "i'm the gate; whoever
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  • Enters through me will be saved."
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  • If you wanna pray with a bit more specificity for your
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  • Friends in the land of israel and the nation, pray they'll
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  • Have a revelation of jesus.
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  • Not to change faiths.
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  • Stop with your labels.
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  • Ask them to have a revelation of jesus.
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  • I believe we have a debt to israel and the jewish people.
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  • It's not just my opinion, it's derived from scripture.
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  • In romans chapter 9 and verse 3, again the apostle paul.
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  • He said, "i could wish that i myself were cursed and cut off
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  • From christ for the sake of my brothers, those of my own race,
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  • The people of israel.
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  • Theirs is the adoption as sons; theirs is the divine glory, the
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  • Covenants, the receiving of the law, the temple worship, and
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  • The promises.
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  • Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human
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  • Ancestry of christ, who is god over all, forever praised!"
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  • Without the jewish people, folks, we have no story.
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  • We would have no covenants, we would have no prophets, we would
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  • Have no scripture.
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  • We would have no messiah.
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  • The new testament in the book of revelation describes a heavenly
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  • Jerusalem, a new jerusalem coming down out of heaven, and
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  • At the center of that, that new jerusalem, is seated on the
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  • Throne at the center of the city, an observant jewish rabbi.
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  • The gates entering the city all have the names of hebrew men
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  • Inscribed above them.
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  • It will be a very awkward place for antisemites.
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  • Allen: you know, i used to believe that antisemitism was a
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  • European problem or an issue in the islamic nations of the
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  • World, but now we see it flourishing in our nation, on
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  • Elite college campuses, even amongst the political class and
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  • Now on the conservative ideological spectrum.
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  • It's troubling.
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  • So i wrote a book, "supporting israel: how far is too far?"
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  • You know, i know we've all got a little battle fatigue with the
  • 00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:48.088
  • Constant conflicts in the middle east and beyond, but what we
  • 00:26:48.088 --> 00:26:51.425
  • Desperately need is a biblical perspective on how to navigate
  • 00:26:51.425 --> 00:26:55.095
  • What's unfolding in our world, and i believe the word of god
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  • Gives that to us with clarity.
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  • So we put this book together to help you find yourself in a
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  • Place that will bring the blessings of god to your life.
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  • I wanna pray that we'll have his wisdom.
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  • Father, you said when we lack wisdom, we could ask and that
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  • You would give it to us without criticism.
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  • We want to stand with you in what you're accomplishing in the
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  • Earth so that your purposes can come forth.
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  • Holy spirit, give us the discernment we need, in jesus's
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  • Name, amen.
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  • ♪♪♪
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