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Allen Jackson Ministries | Allen Jackson - The Middle East Today (Part 2) | October 10, 2025
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- Allen jackson: you know, we're witnessing something of a crisis
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- In our nation, something i never thought i would see: expressions
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- Of antisemitism, hatred for the jewish people, coming from
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- America, coming from the christian community,
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- The conservative side of the ideological spectrum,
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- To a degree and scope i've never seen before.
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- Well, it was important enough that i stopped and put together
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- A book.
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- The title of it is "supporting israel: how far is too far?"
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- It's an important concept that isn't political.
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- It's grounded in a biblical worldview.
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- I think we need to understand our responsibilities to the
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- Jewish people, to the modern state of israel, not from
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- An ideological perspective, not from the perspective of nation
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- States, but as people of god.
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- It's important.
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- It's an important season, a lot of voices.
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- And i know there's some fatigue with the conflict in the middle
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- East, but we can't afford to be fatigued with our assignments to
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- Honor god and the responsibilities that come
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- With that.
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- I believe the book will be a help to you.
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- I believe it'll help you navigate the conversation with
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- Your family and your friends.
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- Enjoy the read.
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- Ronny simon: from the river to the sea, i always kind of
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- Embarrassed when i watch all these youtube segments and you
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- See american youngsters, the best of this country, bright
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- Boys and girls that go to the best universities in the world,
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- Carrying those banners and somebody approaches them and ask
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- A very simple question: "what is the river?
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- What is the sea?"
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- In most cases they don't have a clue.
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- What they mean by that is the river jordan on one side, the
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- Mediterranean sea on the other side, and these are the borders
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- Of the land that was known under the british as palestine.
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- Today, part of it is the state of israel.
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- The land of israel was bigger because the land of israel,
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- Where the tribes of israel used to live once upon a time, part
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- Of it is in jordanian territory today, so even the right term
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- Is important.
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- So to speak about the river to the sea, when you do that you do
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- Two main things.
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- Number one, you're calling to free a people that you believe
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- The land is theirs.
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- In the very same sentence, you're called to kill all the
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- People that live there today, which are the jewish people.
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- In one sentence you're calling for genocide.
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- In the same sentence, basically, you speak about freeing the land
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- That was never really palestinian.
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- It sounds like an oxymoron.
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- Indeed it is.
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- But to say "from the river to the sea" is a call for genocide.
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- To be honest with you, if you can get in a conversation with
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- Somebody who is willing to have a conversation and you tell them
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- What the sign means, they're willing to rethink it sometimes.
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- In most cases, who would even care?
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- We go to the protest because our buddies are going.
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- There was a pile of signs, "grab one, and go scream and go yell."
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- If you happen to grab the one, "from the river to the sea," at
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- Least get to know what is it that you're talking about.
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- So this is quite a catchy phrase, yes, of course, you'll
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- Understand, and that's what it means from the river jordan to
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- The mediterranean sea.
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- I can put up a lot of nice slogans that will also be
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- Very attractive.
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- Would you like to hear some?
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- "from the river to the med, palestine is already dead."
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- How about that, huh?
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- Oh please, don't quote me, but you do understand how easy it is
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- To deceive people, to try to convince people to rally for
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- A cause they know nothing about.
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- Let me tell you the real tragedy.
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- American youngsters, european youngsters, believe that they
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- Fight for human rights.
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- Because that was the wrap.
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- It was sold to them by a very sophisticated machine of
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- Propaganda of money from qatar invested in your universities to
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- Brainwash these youngsters.
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- They'll be very easily convinced to fight for human rights, so
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- We're fighting for human rights and calling for the
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- Extermination of the jewish people.
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- How that works together?
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- If you talk to people, they don't have an answer to that
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- Because they don't really know what is it that they are
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- Supporting when they chant "from the river to the sea," or
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- "globalize the intifada."
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- Globalize the intifada, that's world chaos, that's anarchy.
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- And it doesn't include just israel.
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- It speaks about the whole western world.
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- Allen: israel is a democracy.
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- They elect their leaders.
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- Different--they have different founding documents, similar to
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- How we elect our leaders though.
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- All the other nations in the middle east are authoritarian,
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- They have dictators.
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- They don't choose their leaders, but maybe the demographics of
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- Israel, how many jews live in israel, how many arabs live
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- In israel?
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- Can you give us just a real quick overview of
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- The demographics?
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- Ronny: yes, sir.
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- Next week is the jewish new year's and every year the state
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- Is publishing the demographics in the country.
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- How many people live in israel.
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- We just went across the 10 million line which i think that
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- We need to be congratulated to be able to cross the 10
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- Million line.
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- Thank you.
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- I cannot take any credit for it, although my family, i was born
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- In romania, so i will be counted also as some of those that came
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- Over to the country.
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- Our dream is to bring all the jews over to israel.
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- We did not accomplish that so far.
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- Forty-nine percent of the world jewry live in israel.
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- The biggest jewish city in the world is brooklyn, and not
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- Jerusalem, so we're working on it and we'll bring as many
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- People back home as possible.
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- Ten million people, about seventy-six to seventy-seven
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- Percent, will be indeed jewish.
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- The others will be arabs.
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- An arab is not an ethnicity, it's not a religion, and not
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- A nationality.
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- Being an arab is a civilization, it's a language, it's a culture.
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- If you live in israel, you are of an israeli citizenship, but
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- You're part of the arab world or the arab civilization.
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- And the arabs in israel are equal citizens to the jews.
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- And you need to understand that because people speak about
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- An apartheid state, the easiest argument that's brought against
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- Israel to refute is the apartheid thing.
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- Arabs in israel can vote, they can be elected.
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- We had an arab supreme court judge who sent a jewish
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- President to jail.
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- We have arabs everywhere in our communities because they are
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- Equal citizens just like i am, with one reservation: serving in
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- The army is not mandatory for the arabs.
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- They can volunteer and they can be muslims, and most of them
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- Are, they could be christians.
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- It's not your religion.
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- Israeli arabs are the only free arabs that live in the
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- Middle east.
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- The rights are protected.
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- The property is protected, and the state treats them equally
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- Like anybody else.
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- They are equal in the eyes of the law like all the jews are.
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- So to speak about an apartheid state, that's not israel.
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- You want to look for apartheid, you go to lebanon and see how
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- They treat the refugees they've invited in 1948.
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- You go to egypt and you see how they treat the refugees they've
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- Invited in 1948.
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- You go to syria, you go to iraq.
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- That's apartheid.
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- Palestinians that left the country in 1948, invited by the
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- Arab governments, are living worse than dogs.
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- They live in communities.
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- They cannot leave them.
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- They don't have citizenship.
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- They cannot travel.
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- Education is limited.
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- That's apartheid.
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- That's how the arab countries are treating palestinians, not
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- In israel.
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- Israel is a state, a democracy when everybody is free
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- And equal. [congregation applauding]
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- Allen: there was a significant jewish population in other
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- Nations of the middle east, in iraq, iran, throughout the
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- Middle east.
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- What happened to that jewish population?
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- Ronny: well, another term that everybody uses against us is
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- Ethnic cleansing.
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- Well, let me give you some historical examples.
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- Close to 900,000 jews used to live in arab countries in the
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- Middle east.
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- You're looking for the indigenous people of iraq today?
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- It's not the arabs, it's the jews.
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- Jews lived in babylon, part of iraq, from the days of ezekiel,
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- From the days of the destruction of the first temple.
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- They were there long before muhammad was born and long
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- Before islam was formed and created.
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- Looking for the indigenous people of iraq?
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- Well, these are jews.
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- Same in syria.
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- Jews lived in alexandria in egypt long before islam.
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- So we speak about 900,000 jews who lived in the arab countries
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- In the middle east.
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- Before the state was proclaimed in 1948, the jewish leaders
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- Hesitated to proclaim the state of israel, because we were
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- Concerned about what may happen to our jewish brothers and
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- Sisters in the arab countries because we heard those messages
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- Coming from egypt and from syria and from iraq: if the jews will
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- Dare to declare their states, we'll lead the jews of our
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- Countries into the ocean.
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- Those of you that come to the morning seminar, i showed you
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- Some quotes of arab leaders how they're going to treat the jews
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- In their countries if the jewish state will dare to proclaim
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- Its independence.
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- But we did.
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- And think about the rumors arriving to the capitals in the
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- Arab country that the jewish army is defeating the mighty
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- Arab armies.
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- You don't understand that the local jews will be in danger.
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- From morocco, all the way to iraq, in every arab country,
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- Jews used to live.
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- And most of them--most of them were either massacred like in
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- Libya and tunisia or simply were given a chance to find the first
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- Truck, the first train, the first, i don't know, boat to
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- Swim across, to leave the country.
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- That's ethnic cleansing.
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- It did not happen in israel.
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- We did not expel the locals.
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- You know what, in some cases, we did for a reason.
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- Because you know, ethnic cleansing, that's the definition
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- Of it, all right?
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- So today we don't have jews that live in those countries and
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- These people left behind assets with a value of more than
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- $100 billion.
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- And israel is preparing as we speak a lawsuit because when we
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- Are going to negotiate maybe in the future some peace in the
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- Region, we demand compensation.
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- People left behind a lot of property because the world wants
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- Us to compensate the refugees who left the country, so we also
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- Want compensation.
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- By the way, the arab property that was left behind in israel
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- About 3.9 billion.
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- Any idea how much money unrwa and the united nations gave the
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- Palestinians so far?
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- Close to 14 billion, that's 4 times compensating them
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- For property.
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- We want to be compensated just once, not 4 times.
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- So it's an issue on the table that we brought to the table
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- Recently, because everybody speaks about the poor refugees
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- Deserve compensation.
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- Okay, our refugees also deserve compensation.
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- That sounds fair enough to me. [congregation applauding]
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- Allen: i can give you one fun history fact.
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- David, king david of the bible, was king in jerusalem more than
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- 1500 years before muhammad was born.
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- So more than 1500 years before islam was a thought, there was
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- A jewish king in a jewish capital city in the heart of the
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- Land of israel.
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- Allen: now, how should we respond to the nation of israel
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- And the jewish people?
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- It's a complex question in today's world.
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- Well, i've written a book, "supporting israel: how far is
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- Too far?" to help us establish
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- A biblical perspective on what has become
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- A complex question in contemporary culture.
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- We don't wanna follow the guidance and the counsel of some
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- Of the elite universities in this nation.
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- We wanna form a perspective that's built from god's word.
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- If we'll do that, it'll bring his blessings to our lives.
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- Enjoy the book.
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- Female announcer: from the pages of scripture to the frontlines
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- Of today's news, israel stands at the center of god's purposes.
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- Pastor allen's new booklet, "supporting israel: how far is
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- Too far?"
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- Offers a quick way to gain a biblical perspective on israel,
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- Why israel matters to god, and why it should matter to us.
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- Request your copy with your gift of any amount today at
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- Allenjackson.com or by calling...
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- Allen: i wanna go to modern history.
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- You mentioned romania.
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- Your family immigrated from romania.
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- How old were you when they immigrated and can you tell us
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- The story about the rabbi that wasn't sure you should
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- Get married?
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- You know, he's a shady character.
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- Ronny: again?
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- Allen: again.
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- Ronny: i was born in romania in 1957.
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- My parents were asking for a visa to leave romania to go to
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- Israel since 1951, and they waited for about 12 years.
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- It wasn't easy for a jewish family to leave
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- A communist country.
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- And especially when you were in the age to go to the army, which
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- Was my dad's age when he first started asking for a visa to go
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- To israel.
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- But in 1962, they got the permits and we just got rid of
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- All our possessions and started the journey to israel.
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- In 1950, when the state was just made, they made a law called the
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- Law of return.
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- By the law of return, every jewish person who comes to
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- Israel automatically when you land at the airport or you come
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- By sea, you get your id, you are considered a citizen of the
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- State of israel.
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- No bureaucracy and no procedure.
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- I just said if you're jewish, the question is how do you
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- Define "jewish"?
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- Who is jewish for the sake of citizenship?
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- Well, over the centuries, the story was that--the jewish
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- Mindset, that the religion of the mother will be the religion
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- Of the children as well.
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- So if your mother was jewish, you are considered jewish enough
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- To be a citizen of the state of israel.
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- It's not the end of it, more complicated.
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- I will save you the details.
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- Coming from romania after losing all the documents that anybody
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- Had in the second world war, you need to understand that jewish
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- Communities were not just killed and destroyed, the whole
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- Possessions, archives, paperwork, documents, everything
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- Was gone.
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- So even to try to prove who you are became a problem.
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- I'm engaged to be married in 1982 and everything is ready for
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- The happy occasion.
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- Procedure is, since there was no separation of state and religion
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- In israel that you go to the local rabbinical offices with
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- Your mother and two friends, and they need to testify that you're
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- Not a married man and your mother should somehow prove that
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- She's jewish, okay?
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- We go inside the office and the rabbi is on the other side, and
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- The first question is, "how come you name your son ronny?
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- Ronny is not a jewish name."
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- That made me upset already.
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- But, in a way, he's right, because in most cases, ronny
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- Will be short for aaron or for ron.
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- Very seldom that would be your full official name.
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- And my mother tells a story: "we're in romania waiting for
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- Our visas.
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- Meanwhile, we had a son.
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- And knowing that we go to israel, we did not want to name
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- Him after a local name because it may not be well received
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- In israel.
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- So we sent a letter to some friends and asked them what
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- Would be a nice name for a jewish boy?"
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- And they got a list, and on the list was ronny.
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- Now, ronny is more international than ammi, ilan, avi, you
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- Name it.
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- So they called me ronny.
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- And my mother tells everybody the story and he says, "well,
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- That's a nice story, ma'am.
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- Can you prove to me that you're jewish?"
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- At that point, i was really upset and my mom was really
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- Offended because her father name was stefan, not a very jewish
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- Name, but be quick to admit, all right?
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- And her mother was elizabeth because in europe, every jew had
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- Two names.
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- The jewish name that nobody was using.
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- My mother was a rachel, but she was an agnes, so aggie was
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- Her name.
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- And then he's asking about her grandfather, another
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- Non-jewish name.
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- Rabbi says, "well, there's any way you can prove that
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- You're jewish?"
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- My mom says, "listen, all my life i heard that i was a dirty
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- Jew, and now here in israel, that's your question?
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- How do you think i got here unless i was jewish?"
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- Rabbi says, i'm sorry, ma'am, i cannot give your son permission
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- To be married.
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- I'm going home, calling my fiancee.
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- I said, "honey, we have a problem."
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- And then my dad comes home and i tell him the problem, and he
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- Goes to the closets and takes out an old-looking jacket that
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- We wondered, why don't you get rid of the jacket?
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- And he takes a pair of scissors and cuts the lining.
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- Inside the lining an envelope.
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- In the envelope, all the documents that i needed,
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- All right, to prove to the whole world that i were jewish,
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- Including the marriage certificate of my parents.
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- When they passed, i cleaned the house.
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- I found it.
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- You understand how emotional for me was to find the document,
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- So it's in a safe place now.
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- And it said, perfectly clear, the jewish rabbinical officers
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- In arad in romania registered to be married, the names of our
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- Parents, my birth certificate, all right, as a jewish boy.
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- Following day we go back to the rabbi.
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- We have a document, right?
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- He looks at it, takes out the magnifying glass, i kid you not,
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- And looks at the signature.
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- It's ink, but it wasn't fully stamped.
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- You know, part of--part of it was missing.
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- Sometimes you stamp it, but not fully stamped.
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- Then he calls a colleague, natanya, and he's speaking
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- Yiddish, and that rabbi says, "i think i know the family."
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- To make a very long story short, it wasn't short already.
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- That's how i got my permission, all right, the rabbi's
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- Permission to get married. [congregation applauding]
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- And it's a true story.
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- Allen: we try to tell true stories.
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- You know, most of the news you hear is bad.
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- There's some really amazing news in israel.
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- One of my--to me, one of the most remarkable is the water.
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- The most valuable resource in the middle east is water,
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- Not oil.
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- The wars in the middle east have historically and today been
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- Fought more over water than they have been oil.
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- And most of my life when i went to israel there was great
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- Tension because if they don't have enough rain, they didn't
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- Have enough water.
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- They were really held hostage.
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- There's one--there's one lake, one freshwater lake, in all
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- Of israel.
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- It's the sea of galilee.
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- And that was their national water reservoir.
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- But just a few years ago they implemented the technology
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- To desalinate water.
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- And they've built multiple desalination plants along
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- The mediterranean.
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- And now they have more water than they need.
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- Isn't that true?
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- What has the desalinization done for israel?
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- Can you talk--that's really remarkable.
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- Ronny: yeah, well, you go to the scriptures and you know
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- Your bibles.
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- Usually the ultimate blessing for obedience to god is
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- Rainy season.
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- I mean, not just rain but rain in season and the season
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- Is short.
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- That was a way to know is the nation behaving or maybe we made
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- Something to make god upset.
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- We need to correct our ways.
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- Rain in season was always the prayer that people are praying
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- For in the country.
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- It's not a new technology that we are using.
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- It's called reverse osmosis that the world uses for the last 30
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- Years or so, but it was invented in israel.
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- The problem was that it costs so much to desalinate, 1 cubic
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- Meter was close to $1 which was really not cost effective, but
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- Countries that had to have it, they bought the technology.
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- I think that one of the largest ones was built in el paso here
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- In texas by israelis about 30-40 years ago.
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- And now they made it much more cost effective, and today you
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- Can desalinate 1 cubic in less than 12 or 11 cents, which
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- Changed basically everything.
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- So we'd build six.
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- One is being built as we speak and we can desalinate six
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- Hundred million cubic meters a year, which is more than we need
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- For people.
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- And we can double that if necessary.
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- So in the middle east, water is a strategic asset, all right?
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- And we have enough to even offer jordan, who is an ally of israel
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- Since 1994, to take water from the sea of galilee.
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- The jordanians have our permission to take from the lake
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- 150 million cubic meters.
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- If jordan doesn't do that, jordan dies.
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- Very simple.
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- So we would like them to respect us just a little more because
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- Jordan is not that pleasant when it comes to international
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- Relations, et cetera, but jordan has to have it.
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- They don't have any other water sources.
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- It has to be the sea of galilee.
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- So we do have plenty of water.
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- Yet still, they're educated and it's in tv: we need to save
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- Water, be careful with water.
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- We can desalinate so much that if you want to fill up the sea
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- Of galilee, that we can carry water from the mediterranean
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- Sea, desalinate it and fill up the lake.
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- It's absolutely insane to even think about it, 5, 6 years ago.
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- Now it's doable, all right?
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- So water is no longer an issue in the state of israel, and we
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- Use that as a political asset and jordan is a friend,
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- So to speak.
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- One reason is they need water.
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- By the way, israel is country number one in the world in
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- Recycling water.
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- We recycle 90% of our wastewater.
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- Nobody in the world does that.
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- And you should see and come and see the green fields.
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- Israel was a desert.
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- Israel is a beautiful green country today.
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- One reason is recycling water and people come to learn how to
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- Do that from all around the world.
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- Number 2 is spain, by the way, 20%.
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- We speak about 90% of wastewater being recycled and goes
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- For irrigation. [congregation applauding]
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- Allen: you have the best fruits and vegetables in the world.
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- Ronny: i think so.
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- Allen: yeah, i do too.
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- So there's good things happening in israel.
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- When you're praying for them, it's not all war.
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- They have families and children and grandchildren and there are
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- Opportunities for the jews and the arabs.
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- It's as difficult as it is in our country to overcome hate;
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- It's very difficult to overcome it there.
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- It starts in our hearts, amen?
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- So how many of you would be willing to pray for the
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- Peace of jerusalem?
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- Look at that, you got friends in tennessee.
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- I think we ought to pray.
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- Why don't we stand.
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- I wonder if you'd pray for our country.
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- [speaking foreign language]
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- Can you do that?
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- In hebrew, it'll be safe.
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- Do you know about the pastor that went to this--the church
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- Took up an offering, and they sent him on a tour of israel?
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- And when he came home they asked him to say a prayer in hebrew.
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- Which is crazy, it's not an easy language.
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- Well, the only thing he'd learned while he was there was
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- Achat, shtayim, shalosh.
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- That's uno, dos, tres.
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- So he didn't want to admit that he hadn't learned anything,
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- So he said, "please bow your heads."
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- And he counted to ten and said amen in hebrew.
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- And there apparently was somebody--
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- Ronny: i can do that.
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- Allen: there was somebody visiting the congregation that
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- Knew hebrew and they said, "pastor, i'm impressed with your
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- Counting skills."
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- But you can--you could ask a blessing.
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- I know you know a blessing in hebrew.
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- The aaronic blessing would work for us too, wouldn't it?
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- We could slide under that.
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- Ronny: sure, that's a blessing that we all say, numbers chapter
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- 6, verses 24-26: yevarechecha adonai.
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- Ve'yishmerecha.
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- Ya'er adonai panayv eylecha vi'chuneka.
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- Yissa adonai panayv eylecha [speaking in hebrew]
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- Shalom.
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- "the lord bless you and keep you.
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- The lord shine his face upon you, be gracious to you.
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- The lord lift up his countenance towards you and
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- Gives you peace."
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- Allen: amen.
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- [congregation applauding]
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- Now we'll pray.
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- Father, i thank you for our friends, for their willingness
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- To come to help us understand.
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- And we pause tonight to pray for the peace of jerusalem.
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- Not just an absence of conflict with their neighbors.
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- But father, peace with you.
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- Lord, give them leadership who fears your name and will make
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- Choices that will bring your blessings to the people of
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- That land.
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- Send your angels to stand guard over them.
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- Protect them from their enemies, protect their young people.
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- That they may grow and prosper in that land to give glory
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- And honor to you.
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- In jesus's name, amen.
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- Thank you, sir.
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- Allen: you know, we don't read our bibles just for exercise or
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- Just to be dutiful christians.
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- We read our bibles to understand how to navigate a complex world,
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- How to understand what's unfolding around us.
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- We're living in a season where there's a lot of emotion
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- Expressed about the jewish people and the nation of israel.
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- From some very well-established elite places, there are voices
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- Saying they don't deserve our support.
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- Well, i wrote a book, "supporting israel: how far is
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- Too far?"
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- So that we can have a biblical perspective on our response to
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- Current events.
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- At the end of the day, i want to align myself with the purposes
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- Of god, not the thought leaders at elite ivy league schools or
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- The talking heads in the media.
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- I intend to stand with the purposes of god.
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- This book will help you unpack the current events and
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- Understand the perspective from the viewpoint of scripture on
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- How you and i can respond in a way that i believe will bring
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- The blessings of god to our lives and help us accomplish his
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- Purposes in our generation.
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- It's worth the read.
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