Allen Jackson - The Middle East Today (Part 2)

October 10, 2025 | 28:35

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Allen Jackson Ministries | Allen Jackson - The Middle East Today (Part 2) | October 10, 2025
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  • Allen jackson: you know, we're witnessing something of a crisis
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  • In our nation, something i never thought i would see: expressions
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  • Of antisemitism, hatred for the jewish people, coming from
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  • America, coming from the christian community,
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  • The conservative side of the ideological spectrum,
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  • To a degree and scope i've never seen before.
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  • Well, it was important enough that i stopped and put together
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  • A book.
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  • The title of it is "supporting israel: how far is too far?"
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  • It's an important concept that isn't political.
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  • It's grounded in a biblical worldview.
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  • I think we need to understand our responsibilities to the
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  • Jewish people, to the modern state of israel, not from
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  • An ideological perspective, not from the perspective of nation
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  • States, but as people of god.
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  • It's important.
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  • It's an important season, a lot of voices.
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  • And i know there's some fatigue with the conflict in the middle
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  • East, but we can't afford to be fatigued with our assignments to
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  • Honor god and the responsibilities that come
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  • With that.
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  • I believe the book will be a help to you.
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  • I believe it'll help you navigate the conversation with
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  • Your family and your friends.
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  • Enjoy the read.
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  • Ronny simon: from the river to the sea, i always kind of
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  • Embarrassed when i watch all these youtube segments and you
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  • See american youngsters, the best of this country, bright
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  • Boys and girls that go to the best universities in the world,
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  • Carrying those banners and somebody approaches them and ask
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  • A very simple question: "what is the river?
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  • What is the sea?"
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  • In most cases they don't have a clue.
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  • What they mean by that is the river jordan on one side, the
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  • Mediterranean sea on the other side, and these are the borders
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  • Of the land that was known under the british as palestine.
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  • Today, part of it is the state of israel.
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  • The land of israel was bigger because the land of israel,
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  • Where the tribes of israel used to live once upon a time, part
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  • Of it is in jordanian territory today, so even the right term
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  • Is important.
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  • So to speak about the river to the sea, when you do that you do
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  • Two main things.
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  • Number one, you're calling to free a people that you believe
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  • The land is theirs.
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  • In the very same sentence, you're called to kill all the
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  • People that live there today, which are the jewish people.
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  • In one sentence you're calling for genocide.
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  • In the same sentence, basically, you speak about freeing the land
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  • That was never really palestinian.
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  • It sounds like an oxymoron.
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  • Indeed it is.
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  • But to say "from the river to the sea" is a call for genocide.
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  • To be honest with you, if you can get in a conversation with
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  • Somebody who is willing to have a conversation and you tell them
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  • What the sign means, they're willing to rethink it sometimes.
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  • In most cases, who would even care?
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  • We go to the protest because our buddies are going.
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  • There was a pile of signs, "grab one, and go scream and go yell."
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  • If you happen to grab the one, "from the river to the sea," at
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  • Least get to know what is it that you're talking about.
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  • So this is quite a catchy phrase, yes, of course, you'll
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  • Understand, and that's what it means from the river jordan to
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  • The mediterranean sea.
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  • I can put up a lot of nice slogans that will also be
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  • Very attractive.
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  • Would you like to hear some?
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  • "from the river to the med, palestine is already dead."
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  • How about that, huh?
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  • Oh please, don't quote me, but you do understand how easy it is
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  • To deceive people, to try to convince people to rally for
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  • A cause they know nothing about.
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  • Let me tell you the real tragedy.
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  • American youngsters, european youngsters, believe that they
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  • Fight for human rights.
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  • Because that was the wrap.
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  • It was sold to them by a very sophisticated machine of
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  • Propaganda of money from qatar invested in your universities to
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  • Brainwash these youngsters.
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  • They'll be very easily convinced to fight for human rights, so
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  • We're fighting for human rights and calling for the
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  • Extermination of the jewish people.
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  • How that works together?
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  • If you talk to people, they don't have an answer to that
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  • Because they don't really know what is it that they are
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  • Supporting when they chant "from the river to the sea," or
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  • "globalize the intifada."
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  • Globalize the intifada, that's world chaos, that's anarchy.
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  • And it doesn't include just israel.
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  • It speaks about the whole western world.
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  • Allen: israel is a democracy.
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  • They elect their leaders.
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  • Different--they have different founding documents, similar to
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  • How we elect our leaders though.
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  • All the other nations in the middle east are authoritarian,
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  • They have dictators.
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  • They don't choose their leaders, but maybe the demographics of
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  • Israel, how many jews live in israel, how many arabs live
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  • In israel?
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  • Can you give us just a real quick overview of
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  • The demographics?
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  • Ronny: yes, sir.
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  • Next week is the jewish new year's and every year the state
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  • Is publishing the demographics in the country.
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  • How many people live in israel.
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  • We just went across the 10 million line which i think that
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  • We need to be congratulated to be able to cross the 10
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  • Million line.
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  • Thank you.
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  • I cannot take any credit for it, although my family, i was born
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  • In romania, so i will be counted also as some of those that came
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  • Over to the country.
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  • Our dream is to bring all the jews over to israel.
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  • We did not accomplish that so far.
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  • Forty-nine percent of the world jewry live in israel.
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  • The biggest jewish city in the world is brooklyn, and not
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  • Jerusalem, so we're working on it and we'll bring as many
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  • People back home as possible.
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  • Ten million people, about seventy-six to seventy-seven
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  • Percent, will be indeed jewish.
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  • The others will be arabs.
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  • An arab is not an ethnicity, it's not a religion, and not
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  • A nationality.
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  • Being an arab is a civilization, it's a language, it's a culture.
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  • If you live in israel, you are of an israeli citizenship, but
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  • You're part of the arab world or the arab civilization.
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  • And the arabs in israel are equal citizens to the jews.
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  • And you need to understand that because people speak about
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  • An apartheid state, the easiest argument that's brought against
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  • Israel to refute is the apartheid thing.
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  • Arabs in israel can vote, they can be elected.
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  • We had an arab supreme court judge who sent a jewish
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  • President to jail.
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  • We have arabs everywhere in our communities because they are
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  • Equal citizens just like i am, with one reservation: serving in
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  • The army is not mandatory for the arabs.
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  • They can volunteer and they can be muslims, and most of them
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  • Are, they could be christians.
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  • It's not your religion.
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  • Israeli arabs are the only free arabs that live in the
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  • Middle east.
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  • The rights are protected.
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  • The property is protected, and the state treats them equally
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  • Like anybody else.
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  • They are equal in the eyes of the law like all the jews are.
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  • So to speak about an apartheid state, that's not israel.
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  • You want to look for apartheid, you go to lebanon and see how
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  • They treat the refugees they've invited in 1948.
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  • You go to egypt and you see how they treat the refugees they've
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  • Invited in 1948.
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  • You go to syria, you go to iraq.
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  • That's apartheid.
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  • Palestinians that left the country in 1948, invited by the
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  • Arab governments, are living worse than dogs.
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  • They live in communities.
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  • They cannot leave them.
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  • They don't have citizenship.
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  • They cannot travel.
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  • Education is limited.
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  • That's apartheid.
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  • That's how the arab countries are treating palestinians, not
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  • In israel.
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  • Israel is a state, a democracy when everybody is free
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  • And equal. [congregation applauding]
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  • Allen: there was a significant jewish population in other
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  • Nations of the middle east, in iraq, iran, throughout the
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  • Middle east.
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  • What happened to that jewish population?
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  • Ronny: well, another term that everybody uses against us is
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  • Ethnic cleansing.
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  • Well, let me give you some historical examples.
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  • Close to 900,000 jews used to live in arab countries in the
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  • Middle east.
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  • You're looking for the indigenous people of iraq today?
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  • It's not the arabs, it's the jews.
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  • Jews lived in babylon, part of iraq, from the days of ezekiel,
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  • From the days of the destruction of the first temple.
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  • They were there long before muhammad was born and long
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  • Before islam was formed and created.
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  • Looking for the indigenous people of iraq?
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  • Well, these are jews.
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  • Same in syria.
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  • Jews lived in alexandria in egypt long before islam.
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  • So we speak about 900,000 jews who lived in the arab countries
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  • In the middle east.
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  • Before the state was proclaimed in 1948, the jewish leaders
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  • Hesitated to proclaim the state of israel, because we were
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  • Concerned about what may happen to our jewish brothers and
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  • Sisters in the arab countries because we heard those messages
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  • Coming from egypt and from syria and from iraq: if the jews will
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  • Dare to declare their states, we'll lead the jews of our
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  • Countries into the ocean.
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  • Those of you that come to the morning seminar, i showed you
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  • Some quotes of arab leaders how they're going to treat the jews
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  • In their countries if the jewish state will dare to proclaim
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  • Its independence.
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  • But we did.
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  • And think about the rumors arriving to the capitals in the
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  • Arab country that the jewish army is defeating the mighty
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  • Arab armies.
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  • You don't understand that the local jews will be in danger.
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  • From morocco, all the way to iraq, in every arab country,
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  • Jews used to live.
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  • And most of them--most of them were either massacred like in
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  • Libya and tunisia or simply were given a chance to find the first
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  • Truck, the first train, the first, i don't know, boat to
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  • Swim across, to leave the country.
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  • That's ethnic cleansing.
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  • It did not happen in israel.
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  • We did not expel the locals.
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  • You know what, in some cases, we did for a reason.
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  • Because you know, ethnic cleansing, that's the definition
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  • Of it, all right?
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  • So today we don't have jews that live in those countries and
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  • These people left behind assets with a value of more than
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  • $100 billion.
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  • And israel is preparing as we speak a lawsuit because when we
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  • Are going to negotiate maybe in the future some peace in the
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  • Region, we demand compensation.
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  • People left behind a lot of property because the world wants
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  • Us to compensate the refugees who left the country, so we also
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  • Want compensation.
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  • By the way, the arab property that was left behind in israel
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  • About 3.9 billion.
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  • Any idea how much money unrwa and the united nations gave the
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  • Palestinians so far?
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  • Close to 14 billion, that's 4 times compensating them
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  • For property.
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  • We want to be compensated just once, not 4 times.
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  • So it's an issue on the table that we brought to the table
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  • Recently, because everybody speaks about the poor refugees
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  • Deserve compensation.
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  • Okay, our refugees also deserve compensation.
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  • That sounds fair enough to me. [congregation applauding]
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  • Allen: i can give you one fun history fact.
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  • David, king david of the bible, was king in jerusalem more than
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  • 1500 years before muhammad was born.
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  • So more than 1500 years before islam was a thought, there was
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  • A jewish king in a jewish capital city in the heart of the
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  • Land of israel.
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  • Allen: now, how should we respond to the nation of israel
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  • And the jewish people?
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  • It's a complex question in today's world.
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  • Well, i've written a book, "supporting israel: how far is
  • 00:12:22.158 --> 00:12:24.927
  • Too far?" to help us establish
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  • A biblical perspective on what has become
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  • A complex question in contemporary culture.
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  • We don't wanna follow the guidance and the counsel of some
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  • Of the elite universities in this nation.
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  • We wanna form a perspective that's built from god's word.
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  • If we'll do that, it'll bring his blessings to our lives.
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  • Enjoy the book.
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  • Female announcer: from the pages of scripture to the frontlines
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  • Of today's news, israel stands at the center of god's purposes.
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  • Too far?"
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  • Offers a quick way to gain a biblical perspective on israel,
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  • Why israel matters to god, and why it should matter to us.
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  • Allen: i wanna go to modern history.
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  • You mentioned romania.
  • 00:13:17.479 --> 00:13:19.448
  • Your family immigrated from romania.
  • 00:13:19.448 --> 00:13:22.852
  • How old were you when they immigrated and can you tell us
  • 00:13:22.852 --> 00:13:25.855
  • The story about the rabbi that wasn't sure you should
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  • Get married?
  • 00:13:28.224 --> 00:13:30.426
  • You know, he's a shady character.
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  • Ronny: again?
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  • Allen: again.
  • 00:13:34.296 --> 00:13:35.631
  • Ronny: i was born in romania in 1957.
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  • My parents were asking for a visa to leave romania to go to
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  • Israel since 1951, and they waited for about 12 years.
  • 00:13:41.737 --> 00:13:46.508
  • It wasn't easy for a jewish family to leave
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  • A communist country.
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  • And especially when you were in the age to go to the army, which
  • 00:13:50.379 --> 00:13:53.916
  • Was my dad's age when he first started asking for a visa to go
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  • To israel.
  • 00:13:57.686 --> 00:13:59.388
  • But in 1962, they got the permits and we just got rid of
  • 00:13:59.388 --> 00:14:03.125
  • All our possessions and started the journey to israel.
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  • In 1950, when the state was just made, they made a law called the
  • 00:14:06.729 --> 00:14:10.699
  • Law of return.
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  • By the law of return, every jewish person who comes to
  • 00:14:12.067 --> 00:14:14.904
  • Israel automatically when you land at the airport or you come
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  • By sea, you get your id, you are considered a citizen of the
  • 00:14:18.574 --> 00:14:22.544
  • State of israel.
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  • No bureaucracy and no procedure.
  • 00:14:23.979 --> 00:14:27.016
  • I just said if you're jewish, the question is how do you
  • 00:14:27.016 --> 00:14:29.752
  • Define "jewish"?
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  • Who is jewish for the sake of citizenship?
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  • Well, over the centuries, the story was that--the jewish
  • 00:14:33.956 --> 00:14:37.326
  • Mindset, that the religion of the mother will be the religion
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  • Of the children as well.
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  • So if your mother was jewish, you are considered jewish enough
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  • To be a citizen of the state of israel.
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  • It's not the end of it, more complicated.
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  • I will save you the details.
  • 00:14:51.173 --> 00:14:53.709
  • Coming from romania after losing all the documents that anybody
  • 00:14:53.709 --> 00:14:57.813
  • Had in the second world war, you need to understand that jewish
  • 00:14:57.813 --> 00:15:00.616
  • Communities were not just killed and destroyed, the whole
  • 00:15:00.616 --> 00:15:04.019
  • Possessions, archives, paperwork, documents, everything
  • 00:15:04.019 --> 00:15:06.989
  • Was gone.
  • 00:15:06.989 --> 00:15:08.357
  • So even to try to prove who you are became a problem.
  • 00:15:08.357 --> 00:15:13.595
  • I'm engaged to be married in 1982 and everything is ready for
  • 00:15:13.595 --> 00:15:18.367
  • The happy occasion.
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  • Procedure is, since there was no separation of state and religion
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  • In israel that you go to the local rabbinical offices with
  • 00:15:23.505 --> 00:15:27.743
  • Your mother and two friends, and they need to testify that you're
  • 00:15:27.743 --> 00:15:31.947
  • Not a married man and your mother should somehow prove that
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  • She's jewish, okay?
  • 00:15:35.651 --> 00:15:38.354
  • We go inside the office and the rabbi is on the other side, and
  • 00:15:38.354 --> 00:15:42.224
  • The first question is, "how come you name your son ronny?
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  • Ronny is not a jewish name."
  • 00:15:45.961 --> 00:15:47.496
  • That made me upset already.
  • 00:15:47.496 --> 00:15:49.465
  • But, in a way, he's right, because in most cases, ronny
  • 00:15:49.465 --> 00:15:52.501
  • Will be short for aaron or for ron.
  • 00:15:52.501 --> 00:15:55.571
  • Very seldom that would be your full official name.
  • 00:15:55.571 --> 00:15:58.374
  • And my mother tells a story: "we're in romania waiting for
  • 00:15:58.374 --> 00:16:02.011
  • Our visas.
  • 00:16:02.011 --> 00:16:03.345
  • Meanwhile, we had a son.
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  • And knowing that we go to israel, we did not want to name
  • 00:16:04.880 --> 00:16:07.516
  • Him after a local name because it may not be well received
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  • In israel.
  • 00:16:11.053 --> 00:16:12.454
  • So we sent a letter to some friends and asked them what
  • 00:16:12.454 --> 00:16:14.623
  • Would be a nice name for a jewish boy?"
  • 00:16:14.623 --> 00:16:17.126
  • And they got a list, and on the list was ronny.
  • 00:16:17.126 --> 00:16:19.795
  • Now, ronny is more international than ammi, ilan, avi, you
  • 00:16:19.795 --> 00:16:23.899
  • Name it.
  • 00:16:23.899 --> 00:16:25.267
  • So they called me ronny.
  • 00:16:25.267 --> 00:16:26.735
  • And my mother tells everybody the story and he says, "well,
  • 00:16:26.735 --> 00:16:30.139
  • That's a nice story, ma'am.
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  • Can you prove to me that you're jewish?"
  • 00:16:31.940 --> 00:16:34.476
  • At that point, i was really upset and my mom was really
  • 00:16:34.476 --> 00:16:38.013
  • Offended because her father name was stefan, not a very jewish
  • 00:16:38.013 --> 00:16:43.552
  • Name, but be quick to admit, all right?
  • 00:16:43.552 --> 00:16:45.687
  • And her mother was elizabeth because in europe, every jew had
  • 00:16:45.687 --> 00:16:49.825
  • Two names.
  • 00:16:49.825 --> 00:16:51.193
  • The jewish name that nobody was using.
  • 00:16:51.193 --> 00:16:52.995
  • My mother was a rachel, but she was an agnes, so aggie was
  • 00:16:52.995 --> 00:16:56.965
  • Her name.
  • 00:16:56.965 --> 00:16:58.300
  • And then he's asking about her grandfather, another
  • 00:16:58.300 --> 00:17:01.537
  • Non-jewish name.
  • 00:17:01.537 --> 00:17:03.305
  • Rabbi says, "well, there's any way you can prove that
  • 00:17:03.305 --> 00:17:05.641
  • You're jewish?"
  • 00:17:05.641 --> 00:17:07.309
  • My mom says, "listen, all my life i heard that i was a dirty
  • 00:17:07.309 --> 00:17:10.379
  • Jew, and now here in israel, that's your question?
  • 00:17:10.379 --> 00:17:13.482
  • How do you think i got here unless i was jewish?"
  • 00:17:13.482 --> 00:17:16.952
  • Rabbi says, i'm sorry, ma'am, i cannot give your son permission
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  • To be married.
  • 00:17:20.255 --> 00:17:21.957
  • I'm going home, calling my fiancee.
  • 00:17:21.957 --> 00:17:25.494
  • I said, "honey, we have a problem."
  • 00:17:25.494 --> 00:17:28.397
  • And then my dad comes home and i tell him the problem, and he
  • 00:17:28.397 --> 00:17:32.067
  • Goes to the closets and takes out an old-looking jacket that
  • 00:17:32.067 --> 00:17:35.437
  • We wondered, why don't you get rid of the jacket?
  • 00:17:35.437 --> 00:17:38.874
  • And he takes a pair of scissors and cuts the lining.
  • 00:17:38.874 --> 00:17:42.644
  • Inside the lining an envelope.
  • 00:17:42.644 --> 00:17:45.214
  • In the envelope, all the documents that i needed,
  • 00:17:45.214 --> 00:17:48.150
  • All right, to prove to the whole world that i were jewish,
  • 00:17:48.150 --> 00:17:52.154
  • Including the marriage certificate of my parents.
  • 00:17:52.154 --> 00:17:54.923
  • When they passed, i cleaned the house.
  • 00:17:54.923 --> 00:17:56.458
  • I found it.
  • 00:17:56.458 --> 00:17:57.793
  • You understand how emotional for me was to find the document,
  • 00:17:57.793 --> 00:18:00.529
  • So it's in a safe place now.
  • 00:18:00.529 --> 00:18:02.865
  • And it said, perfectly clear, the jewish rabbinical officers
  • 00:18:02.865 --> 00:18:07.236
  • In arad in romania registered to be married, the names of our
  • 00:18:07.236 --> 00:18:11.773
  • Parents, my birth certificate, all right, as a jewish boy.
  • 00:18:11.773 --> 00:18:16.078
  • Following day we go back to the rabbi.
  • 00:18:16.078 --> 00:18:19.314
  • We have a document, right?
  • 00:18:19.314 --> 00:18:21.150
  • He looks at it, takes out the magnifying glass, i kid you not,
  • 00:18:21.150 --> 00:18:24.887
  • And looks at the signature.
  • 00:18:24.887 --> 00:18:26.421
  • It's ink, but it wasn't fully stamped.
  • 00:18:26.421 --> 00:18:28.891
  • You know, part of--part of it was missing.
  • 00:18:28.891 --> 00:18:30.626
  • Sometimes you stamp it, but not fully stamped.
  • 00:18:30.626 --> 00:18:33.495
  • Then he calls a colleague, natanya, and he's speaking
  • 00:18:33.495 --> 00:18:36.431
  • Yiddish, and that rabbi says, "i think i know the family."
  • 00:18:36.431 --> 00:18:40.669
  • To make a very long story short, it wasn't short already.
  • 00:18:40.669 --> 00:18:44.706
  • That's how i got my permission, all right, the rabbi's
  • 00:18:44.706 --> 00:18:47.576
  • Permission to get married. [congregation applauding]
  • 00:18:47.576 --> 00:18:54.683
  • And it's a true story.
  • 00:18:54.683 --> 00:18:57.286
  • Allen: we try to tell true stories.
  • 00:18:57.286 --> 00:19:00.856
  • You know, most of the news you hear is bad.
  • 00:19:00.856 --> 00:19:02.291
  • There's some really amazing news in israel.
  • 00:19:02.291 --> 00:19:04.693
  • One of my--to me, one of the most remarkable is the water.
  • 00:19:04.693 --> 00:19:08.030
  • The most valuable resource in the middle east is water,
  • 00:19:08.030 --> 00:19:10.199
  • Not oil.
  • 00:19:10.199 --> 00:19:12.467
  • The wars in the middle east have historically and today been
  • 00:19:12.467 --> 00:19:15.070
  • Fought more over water than they have been oil.
  • 00:19:15.070 --> 00:19:18.307
  • And most of my life when i went to israel there was great
  • 00:19:18.307 --> 00:19:21.376
  • Tension because if they don't have enough rain, they didn't
  • 00:19:21.376 --> 00:19:23.278
  • Have enough water.
  • 00:19:23.278 --> 00:19:25.147
  • They were really held hostage.
  • 00:19:25.147 --> 00:19:26.481
  • There's one--there's one lake, one freshwater lake, in all
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  • Of israel.
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  • It's the sea of galilee.
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  • And that was their national water reservoir.
  • 00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:34.523
  • But just a few years ago they implemented the technology
  • 00:19:34.523 --> 00:19:40.262
  • To desalinate water.
  • 00:19:40.262 --> 00:19:43.031
  • And they've built multiple desalination plants along
  • 00:19:43.031 --> 00:19:46.501
  • The mediterranean.
  • 00:19:46.501 --> 00:19:48.604
  • And now they have more water than they need.
  • 00:19:48.604 --> 00:19:52.841
  • Isn't that true?
  • 00:19:52.841 --> 00:19:56.278
  • What has the desalinization done for israel?
  • 00:19:56.278 --> 00:19:59.114
  • Can you talk--that's really remarkable.
  • 00:19:59.114 --> 00:20:01.116
  • Ronny: yeah, well, you go to the scriptures and you know
  • 00:20:01.116 --> 00:20:03.652
  • Your bibles.
  • 00:20:03.652 --> 00:20:05.020
  • Usually the ultimate blessing for obedience to god is
  • 00:20:05.020 --> 00:20:08.056
  • Rainy season.
  • 00:20:08.056 --> 00:20:09.491
  • I mean, not just rain but rain in season and the season
  • 00:20:09.491 --> 00:20:12.461
  • Is short.
  • 00:20:12.461 --> 00:20:13.829
  • That was a way to know is the nation behaving or maybe we made
  • 00:20:13.829 --> 00:20:17.566
  • Something to make god upset.
  • 00:20:17.566 --> 00:20:18.934
  • We need to correct our ways.
  • 00:20:18.934 --> 00:20:20.269
  • Rain in season was always the prayer that people are praying
  • 00:20:20.269 --> 00:20:23.739
  • For in the country.
  • 00:20:23.739 --> 00:20:25.774
  • It's not a new technology that we are using.
  • 00:20:25.774 --> 00:20:28.043
  • It's called reverse osmosis that the world uses for the last 30
  • 00:20:28.043 --> 00:20:31.546
  • Years or so, but it was invented in israel.
  • 00:20:31.546 --> 00:20:34.616
  • The problem was that it costs so much to desalinate, 1 cubic
  • 00:20:34.616 --> 00:20:39.021
  • Meter was close to $1 which was really not cost effective, but
  • 00:20:39.021 --> 00:20:43.592
  • Countries that had to have it, they bought the technology.
  • 00:20:43.592 --> 00:20:46.895
  • I think that one of the largest ones was built in el paso here
  • 00:20:46.895 --> 00:20:49.498
  • In texas by israelis about 30-40 years ago.
  • 00:20:49.498 --> 00:20:52.801
  • And now they made it much more cost effective, and today you
  • 00:20:52.801 --> 00:20:55.971
  • Can desalinate 1 cubic in less than 12 or 11 cents, which
  • 00:20:55.971 --> 00:21:01.977
  • Changed basically everything.
  • 00:21:01.977 --> 00:21:03.945
  • So we'd build six.
  • 00:21:03.945 --> 00:21:05.480
  • One is being built as we speak and we can desalinate six
  • 00:21:05.480 --> 00:21:08.216
  • Hundred million cubic meters a year, which is more than we need
  • 00:21:08.216 --> 00:21:13.221
  • For people.
  • 00:21:13.221 --> 00:21:14.923
  • And we can double that if necessary.
  • 00:21:14.923 --> 00:21:17.659
  • So in the middle east, water is a strategic asset, all right?
  • 00:21:17.659 --> 00:21:21.296
  • And we have enough to even offer jordan, who is an ally of israel
  • 00:21:21.296 --> 00:21:26.201
  • Since 1994, to take water from the sea of galilee.
  • 00:21:26.201 --> 00:21:30.038
  • The jordanians have our permission to take from the lake
  • 00:21:30.038 --> 00:21:33.675
  • 150 million cubic meters.
  • 00:21:33.675 --> 00:21:36.178
  • If jordan doesn't do that, jordan dies.
  • 00:21:36.178 --> 00:21:39.314
  • Very simple.
  • 00:21:39.314 --> 00:21:40.716
  • So we would like them to respect us just a little more because
  • 00:21:40.716 --> 00:21:43.785
  • Jordan is not that pleasant when it comes to international
  • 00:21:43.785 --> 00:21:46.955
  • Relations, et cetera, but jordan has to have it.
  • 00:21:46.955 --> 00:21:49.558
  • They don't have any other water sources.
  • 00:21:49.558 --> 00:21:51.393
  • It has to be the sea of galilee.
  • 00:21:51.393 --> 00:21:53.862
  • So we do have plenty of water.
  • 00:21:53.862 --> 00:21:56.598
  • Yet still, they're educated and it's in tv: we need to save
  • 00:21:56.598 --> 00:22:01.236
  • Water, be careful with water.
  • 00:22:01.236 --> 00:22:04.306
  • We can desalinate so much that if you want to fill up the sea
  • 00:22:04.306 --> 00:22:07.509
  • Of galilee, that we can carry water from the mediterranean
  • 00:22:07.509 --> 00:22:11.713
  • Sea, desalinate it and fill up the lake.
  • 00:22:11.713 --> 00:22:15.517
  • It's absolutely insane to even think about it, 5, 6 years ago.
  • 00:22:15.517 --> 00:22:19.554
  • Now it's doable, all right?
  • 00:22:19.554 --> 00:22:22.124
  • So water is no longer an issue in the state of israel, and we
  • 00:22:22.124 --> 00:22:26.595
  • Use that as a political asset and jordan is a friend,
  • 00:22:26.595 --> 00:22:30.766
  • So to speak.
  • 00:22:30.766 --> 00:22:32.134
  • One reason is they need water.
  • 00:22:32.134 --> 00:22:33.468
  • By the way, israel is country number one in the world in
  • 00:22:33.468 --> 00:22:36.938
  • Recycling water.
  • 00:22:36.938 --> 00:22:38.573
  • We recycle 90% of our wastewater.
  • 00:22:38.573 --> 00:22:42.077
  • Nobody in the world does that.
  • 00:22:42.077 --> 00:22:44.012
  • And you should see and come and see the green fields.
  • 00:22:44.012 --> 00:22:47.215
  • Israel was a desert.
  • 00:22:47.215 --> 00:22:49.217
  • Israel is a beautiful green country today.
  • 00:22:49.217 --> 00:22:51.753
  • One reason is recycling water and people come to learn how to
  • 00:22:51.753 --> 00:22:56.725
  • Do that from all around the world.
  • 00:22:56.725 --> 00:22:58.126
  • Number 2 is spain, by the way, 20%.
  • 00:22:58.126 --> 00:23:00.595
  • We speak about 90% of wastewater being recycled and goes
  • 00:23:00.595 --> 00:23:05.634
  • For irrigation. [congregation applauding]
  • 00:23:05.634 --> 00:23:12.607
  • Allen: you have the best fruits and vegetables in the world.
  • 00:23:12.607 --> 00:23:15.844
  • Ronny: i think so.
  • 00:23:15.844 --> 00:23:17.212
  • Allen: yeah, i do too.
  • 00:23:17.212 --> 00:23:18.947
  • So there's good things happening in israel.
  • 00:23:18.947 --> 00:23:21.716
  • When you're praying for them, it's not all war.
  • 00:23:21.716 --> 00:23:25.053
  • They have families and children and grandchildren and there are
  • 00:23:25.053 --> 00:23:28.757
  • Opportunities for the jews and the arabs.
  • 00:23:28.757 --> 00:23:32.861
  • It's as difficult as it is in our country to overcome hate;
  • 00:23:32.861 --> 00:23:36.865
  • It's very difficult to overcome it there.
  • 00:23:36.865 --> 00:23:39.935
  • It starts in our hearts, amen?
  • 00:23:39.935 --> 00:23:43.672
  • So how many of you would be willing to pray for the
  • 00:23:43.672 --> 00:23:45.307
  • Peace of jerusalem?
  • 00:23:45.307 --> 00:23:46.675
  • Look at that, you got friends in tennessee.
  • 00:23:46.675 --> 00:23:50.545
  • I think we ought to pray.
  • 00:23:50.545 --> 00:23:52.547
  • Why don't we stand.
  • 00:23:52.547 --> 00:23:58.053
  • I wonder if you'd pray for our country.
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  • [speaking foreign language]
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  • Can you do that?
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  • In hebrew, it'll be safe.
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  • Do you know about the pastor that went to this--the church
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  • Took up an offering, and they sent him on a tour of israel?
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  • And when he came home they asked him to say a prayer in hebrew.
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  • Which is crazy, it's not an easy language.
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  • Well, the only thing he'd learned while he was there was
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  • Achat, shtayim, shalosh.
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  • That's uno, dos, tres.
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  • So he didn't want to admit that he hadn't learned anything,
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  • So he said, "please bow your heads."
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  • And he counted to ten and said amen in hebrew.
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  • And there apparently was somebody--
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  • Ronny: i can do that.
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  • Allen: there was somebody visiting the congregation that
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  • Knew hebrew and they said, "pastor, i'm impressed with your
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  • Counting skills."
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  • But you can--you could ask a blessing.
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  • I know you know a blessing in hebrew.
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  • The aaronic blessing would work for us too, wouldn't it?
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  • We could slide under that.
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  • Ronny: sure, that's a blessing that we all say, numbers chapter
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  • 6, verses 24-26: yevarechecha adonai.
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  • Ve'yishmerecha.
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  • Ya'er adonai panayv eylecha vi'chuneka.
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  • Yissa adonai panayv eylecha [speaking in hebrew]
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  • Shalom.
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  • "the lord bless you and keep you.
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  • The lord shine his face upon you, be gracious to you.
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  • The lord lift up his countenance towards you and
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  • Gives you peace."
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  • Allen: amen.
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  • [congregation applauding]
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  • Now we'll pray.
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  • Father, i thank you for our friends, for their willingness
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  • To come to help us understand.
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  • And we pause tonight to pray for the peace of jerusalem.
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  • Not just an absence of conflict with their neighbors.
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  • But father, peace with you.
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  • Lord, give them leadership who fears your name and will make
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  • Choices that will bring your blessings to the people of
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  • That land.
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  • Send your angels to stand guard over them.
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  • Protect them from their enemies, protect their young people.
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  • That they may grow and prosper in that land to give glory
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  • And honor to you.
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  • In jesus's name, amen.
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  • Thank you, sir.
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  • Allen: you know, we don't read our bibles just for exercise or
  • 00:26:28.036 --> 00:26:30.872
  • Just to be dutiful christians.
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  • We read our bibles to understand how to navigate a complex world,
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  • How to understand what's unfolding around us.
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  • We're living in a season where there's a lot of emotion
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  • Expressed about the jewish people and the nation of israel.
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  • From some very well-established elite places, there are voices
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  • Saying they don't deserve our support.
  • 00:26:48.223 --> 00:26:50.458
  • Well, i wrote a book, "supporting israel: how far is
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  • Too far?"
  • 00:26:52.961 --> 00:26:54.295
  • So that we can have a biblical perspective on our response to
  • 00:26:54.295 --> 00:26:56.798
  • Current events.
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  • At the end of the day, i want to align myself with the purposes
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  • Of god, not the thought leaders at elite ivy league schools or
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  • The talking heads in the media.
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  • I intend to stand with the purposes of god.
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  • This book will help you unpack the current events and
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  • Understand the perspective from the viewpoint of scripture on
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  • How you and i can respond in a way that i believe will bring
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  • The blessings of god to our lives and help us accomplish his
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  • Purposes in our generation.
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  • It's worth the read.
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