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Doug Batchelor - The Fate of the Lost (Part 2)

June 8, 2025 | 28:30

Doug Batchelor - The Fate of the Lost (Part 2)
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Amazing Facts | Doug Batchelor - The Fate of the Lost (Part 2) | June 8, 2025
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  • Male announcer: coming to you from new york city at the
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  • Doug batchelor: hello, friends.
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  • Welcome back to "prophecy odyssey."
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  • In our last episode, we learned that sodom and gomorrah were an
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  • Example of how god is going to ultimately destroy the wicked in
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  • The last days and that the fires of hell are not burning yet.
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  • Today, we're going to continue this eye-opening study of what
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  • Will ultimately happen in hellfire.
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  • We will also look at a few bible verses that have confused a lot
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  • Of people about the reality and nature of hell and what you need
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  • To know to avoid it.
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  • So thanks for watching and god bless as you continue your
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  • Prophecy odyssey.
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  • Doug: i went to jewish schools.
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  • I went to two different military schools.
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  • I went to public school.
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  • I went to two catholic schools.
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  • And like everyone else, i heard: "if you're a good boy and you
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  • Believe in jesus, you go to heaven."
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  • I was really confused because my mother was jewish, but my father
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  • Had been raised baptist.
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  • They're both atheists.
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  • They send me to a catholic school.
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  • So you go figure.
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  • And when i went to new york military academy, every week you
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  • Have to go to a service.
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  • You could choose between the protestant service, the catholic
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  • Service, or the jewish service.
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  • And i figured i just try--i kept going, mixing them all up.
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  • But they all kind of said the same thing.
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  • You're good, you go to heaven.
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  • But if you're bad, you're going to go to hell.
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  • I said: "i need to know more about that," because i figured
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  • That's where i was going.
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  • And they said: "well, you're going to--if it's fire, you
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  • Know, and you'll be down there, and you're going to burn."
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  • "ooh, how long?"
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  • "forever."
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  • What do you think that did to my picture of god?
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  • I decided early in my life, i said: "not only do i not want to
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  • Believe that, i can't afford to believe that because if there is
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  • A god, he is the meanest being in the cosmos."
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  • Here i am, you know, just a crummy little kid, and i can't
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  • Help my bad behavior, and he made me.
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  • No one asked me to vote on being made or not.
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  • And he made me, and he says: "if you can't be good," and i found
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  • That very difficult, "so i'm going to burn you forever."
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  • I could never love god.
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  • I thought: "if there is a god, i hate him."
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  • But when i learned the bible truth on this subject, it set me
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  • Free where i was able to finally love god.
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  • That's why it's important to me.
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  • You got two options: life or death.
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  • Romans 6:23: "the wages of sin is," what?
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  • "eternal life in flames."
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  • It's not what paul said.
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  • The wage, the penalty, the reward for sin is death absence
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  • Of life.
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  • What was the first lie that was ever spoken?
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  • God told eve: "if you eat the forbidden fruit, you will
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  • Surely die."
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  • He didn't just say: "you'll die."
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  • He said: "you will surely die."
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  • That means like the wicked witch, dead, dead, very dead.
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  • "and the serpent said to the woman, 'you will not
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  • Surely die.'"
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  • You'll either live forever in heaven or you'll live forever in
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  • Hell with me, and i'm in charge.
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  • Bible doesn't say that.
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  • The first lie: "then the serpent said to the woman, 'you'll not
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  • Surely die.'"
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  • He lied.
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  • "what will happen to the wicked in hellfire?"
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  • Answer, psalm 37, let's find out what does the bible say is the
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  • Reward of the wicked.
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  • Don't worry, we're going to finish talking about the reward
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  • Of the righteous.
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  • I want to end on a good note: "yet, a little while and the
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  • Wicked will be no more."
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  • Does it say, he'll be in a torture chamber somewhere or
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  • No more?
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  • "no more" means you cease to exist.
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  • "the wicked will," what?
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  • "perish; into smoke they will vanish away," diffuse,
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  • Disappear, gone.
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  • Again, you read in malachi chapter 4, verse 1 and 3: "the
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  • Day is coming, burning like an oven, and ...
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  • All," how many?
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  • "all who do wickedly will be stubble."
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  • This is talking about what the jews used to do to the fields
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  • After harvest.
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  • They still do it in california, the rice fields around us
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  • In sacramento.
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  • They set them on fire.
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  • And they not only burn up the stubble on top, but he says:
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  • "it's not just the stubble, it's going to burn up the root in
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  • The branch."
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  • If you burn up the root of a tree, it's not coming back.
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  • It says: "it will burn them up."
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  • When something's burnt up, what's left?
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  • Nothing.
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  • "you will trample the wicked, for they will be ashes under the
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  • Soles of your feet."
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  • Doesn't say that they're still burning.
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  • You're not going to be walking around and then go, "oh, that's
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  • Hot, you know, like you're a fijian firewalker.
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  • They're gone.
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  • They're burned up, and he's going to create a new heavens
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  • And a new earth on that.
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  • Number 6: "where will hellfire be located?"
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  • Now this surprises people.
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  • A lot of folks are taught to believe--now, i should pause
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  • Here, and you'll understand why.
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  • There are four words in the bible that are translated
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  • As hell.
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  • The most common word in the old testament is the word "sheol."
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  • Sheol, that simply means the grave.
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  • It's a hebrew word that means the grave.
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  • He will go down--people think that hell is the burning
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  • Volcanic cavern down there somewhere because it says: "down
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  • In sheol," because the jews buried their dead where some of
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  • The pagans cremated their dead, some even above ground.
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  • But the jews buried them, so they always said: "down
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  • In sheol."
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  • Then you've got the word "hades,"
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  • Which is from greek mythology.
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  • Hades was a place that was ruled by the god pluto, who was in
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  • Charge of the hounds of hell, and a lot of our myths about the
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  • Devil come from this concept of pluto.
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  • Then you had the word "tartarus."
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  • Tartarus just means a place of darkness.
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  • It's only used one time in the bible.
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  • Then you've got the word "gehenna."
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  • Now this is one that has mixed people up because outside of
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  • Jerusalem, they've got something called the valley of hinnom.
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  • It's also gehenna, same word, same place.
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  • It was the city dump.
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  • And it was a very steep valley, rocky, not a good place
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  • To build.
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  • It wasn't far from the city gates.
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  • People would take the refuse out of the city, they'd dump it in
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  • The valley of hinnom.
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  • Now one reason they--the valley of hinnom was the city dump is
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  • Because some of the earlier kings of israel had turned from
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  • God, and they had set up pagan idols there and made it a holy
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  • Place to idols and pagan gods.
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  • And so the godly kings came along and they said: "we are
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  • Going to desecrate it and make it a dump."
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  • Remember nebuchadnezzar said that "whoever doesn't worship
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  • The god of daniel, his house is going to be torn down and turned
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  • Into a dump."
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  • That was one of the things they did to desecrate a place.
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  • And so it was full of worms 'cause, you know, they'd throw
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  • The dead animals that were unclean in there, and they'd
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  • Have baskets that were smoldering.
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  • They'd burn it to keep the gasses down.
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  • And so jesus said: "you're better cutting off your hand or
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  • Plucking out an eye and going to heaven maimed than having your
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  • Eye and your hand and your foot and going to gehenna where the
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  • Worm does not die and the fire is not quenched."
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  • What jesus was saying is you're better than--does everyone
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  • Understand what hyperbole is, a metaphor?
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  • Does anyone here believe that we're going to go to heaven
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  • Missing an eyeball, a foot, or a hand?
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  • Jesus is saying: "if you've got a sin that is as close as your
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  • Hand, your foot, or your eye, and it's going to make you be
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  • Lost, cut it off.
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  • As hard as that might be, you're better off entering heaven
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  • Maimed than going with a full body to gehenna, the dump where
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  • The wicked will be punished."
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  • And he points to the valley right there outside the city
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  • Where it's smoldering, and it's full of worms that do not die,
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  • Maggots that are eating.
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  • It's not talking about the people are always going to be
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  • Eaten by worms forever and ever and ever.
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  • It's a metaphor.
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  • So where will hell burn?
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  • Is it in a cavern way down yonder somewhere?
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  • The bible says, you can read 2 peter chapter 3: "the elements
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  • Will melt with fervent heat: and both the earth and the works
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  • That are in it will be," what?
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  • "burned up."
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  • It's going to be right here.
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  • Again, you can read where it tells us in revelation 20, verse
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  • 9: "they went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the
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  • Camp of the saints, the beloved city," that's the new jerusalem.
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  • "and fire comes down from god out of heaven and devours them."
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  • I don't want to get too close to this virtual reality because i
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  • Don't want to--see here, ow.
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  • So where is hell going to burn?
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  • The fire comes down on the earth.
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  • God is going to purify this world with fire and on the
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  • Purified ashes.
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  • That's why it says: "you'll go forth from the new jerusalem,
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  • You'll tread upon the wicked for they are ashes under the soles
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  • Of your feet because blessed are the meek 'cause they will
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  • Inherit," what?
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  • "the earth," but it's okay because god's making a
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  • New heaven.
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  • The word "heaven" there doesn't mean where he lives.
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  • It means a new atmosphere and a new earth.
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  • Our atmosphere is polluted.
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  • Our earth is polluted.
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  • He's going to recreate this planet.
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  • And god had a plan in the beginning.
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  • He is going to finish his perfect plan.
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  • Do you believe it, friends?
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  • "they went upon the breadth of the earth they surrounded the
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  • Camp of the saints, the beloved city.
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  • And fire came down from god out of heaven and devoured them."
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  • So it's coming down to where?
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  • On the earth.
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  • So another big myth about hell.
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  • Who is large and in charge of hell?
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  • Is it the devil?
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  • How many of you have heard jokes about, you know, saint peter's
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  • In charge of the golden gate, and everybody's got to go by
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  • Saint peter to get in?
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  • And i've heard some really funny jokes about saint peter checking
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  • People out as they're on their way into heaven.
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  • And then they got the devil is in charge of hell.
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  • How many of you have heard that before?
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  • And that's why he ostensibly has got this big pitchfork, trident.
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  • It's like a big barbecue down there.
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  • He makes sure people cooked evenly, he flips them every now
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  • And then.
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  • I don't know what he's doing.
  • 00:10:56.771 --> 00:10:58.173
  • But is that what the bible teaches?
  • 00:10:58.173 --> 00:11:00.608
  • The devil's in charge of hell.
  • 00:11:00.608 --> 00:11:02.243
  • And, of course, we've learned the devil doesn't look
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  • Like that.
  • 00:11:03.745 --> 00:11:05.080
  • No, bible says: "the devil is as afraid of hell.
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  • Hell was prepared for him.
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  • The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire
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  • And brimstone."
  • 00:11:15.323 --> 00:11:16.691
  • Now, why does it call it a lake?
  • 00:11:16.691 --> 00:11:19.461
  • It's not like, you know, lake genezareth or the great lakes or
  • 00:11:19.461 --> 00:11:23.231
  • Anything like that.
  • 00:11:23.231 --> 00:11:24.899
  • At the end of the 1000 years, we have a lesson on this, new
  • 00:11:24.899 --> 00:11:28.803
  • Jerusalem comes down from god out of heaven, settles on
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  • The earth.
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  • All the wicked who've ever lived are resurrected.
  • 00:11:34.209 --> 00:11:37.345
  • Satan sees all the wicked who've ever lived.
  • 00:11:37.345 --> 00:11:39.247
  • They're sometimes called gog and magog, and he rallies them
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  • Against a final assault against the city of god.
  • 00:11:42.083 --> 00:11:46.154
  • They are judged, great white throne judgment.
  • 00:11:46.154 --> 00:11:48.556
  • The devil shows he hasn't changed.
  • 00:11:48.556 --> 00:11:50.925
  • And it says: "god then rains fire down."
  • 00:11:50.925 --> 00:11:54.496
  • And in the same way god rained water down to destroy the wicked
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  • During the time of noah until it floated the boat, god is going
  • 00:11:58.900 --> 00:12:03.304
  • To rain fire down outside the new jerusalem.
  • 00:12:03.304 --> 00:12:06.708
  • Only those in the ark were saved, only those in the city
  • 00:12:06.708 --> 00:12:10.078
  • Are saved, and it is going to form a lake.
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  • Don't worry, the walls are big, and you'll be protected.
  • 00:12:12.614 --> 00:12:16.217
  • Because jesus is noah, and he built the city.
  • 00:12:16.217 --> 00:12:18.686
  • I mean, he's our noah, so-to-speak.
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  • And everybody on the outside is destroyed.
  • 00:12:21.022 --> 00:12:23.691
  • It's going to form a lake, and that lake, just like the old
  • 00:12:23.691 --> 00:12:26.494
  • Flood purified the world, that fire is going to purify
  • 00:12:26.494 --> 00:12:30.064
  • The planet.
  • 00:12:30.064 --> 00:12:31.399
  • And then god will create a new heavens and a new earth.
  • 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:33.635
  • Satan is not in charge of hell.
  • 00:12:33.635 --> 00:12:36.838
  • He is afraid of it.
  • 00:12:36.838 --> 00:12:38.439
  • He has come down with great wrath because he knows his time
  • 00:12:38.439 --> 00:12:41.409
  • Is short.
  • 00:12:41.409 --> 00:12:42.744
  • You read in the book of 2 peter and jude: "the devils are kept
  • 00:12:42.744 --> 00:12:46.080
  • In everlasting chains of darkness."
  • 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:48.283
  • When jesus was casting out devils, the demons would speak
  • 00:12:48.283 --> 00:12:50.919
  • And they'd say: "we know who you are, jesus, son of god.
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  • Have you come to torment us before the time?"
  • 00:12:53.855 --> 00:12:57.292
  • "will the fires of hell ever go out?"
  • 00:12:57.292 --> 00:13:00.495
  • Or, here's a big question, does it burn forever?
  • 00:13:00.495 --> 00:13:03.131
  • That's what we want to know.
  • 00:13:03.131 --> 00:13:05.200
  • Isaiah 47, verse 14: "it shall not be a coal to be warmed by,
  • 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:13.641
  • Nor a fire to sit before!"
  • 00:13:13.641 --> 00:13:16.144
  • Not even a warm coal left.
  • 00:13:16.144 --> 00:13:18.646
  • "you will trample the wicked," malachi 4:3: "for their ashes
  • 00:13:18.646 --> 00:13:22.650
  • Under the soles of your feet in the day that i do this,' says
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  • The lord of hosts."
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  • It's burnt up.
  • 00:13:27.589 --> 00:13:29.290
  • Now, some of you are thinking, wait, pastor doug, doesn't the
  • 00:13:29.290 --> 00:13:32.493
  • Bible say: "unquenchable fire?"
  • 00:13:32.493 --> 00:13:35.964
  • It does, and it means exactly what it says.
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  • When you see something in the bible, you know what the key is
  • 00:13:39.100 --> 00:13:41.569
  • To understand any mystery in the bible?
  • 00:13:41.569 --> 00:13:44.138
  • Let the bible interpret itself.
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  • God is the author.
  • 00:13:46.741 --> 00:13:48.076
  • He knows what he means by the words he uses.
  • 00:13:48.076 --> 00:13:49.744
  • Does that sound reasonable?
  • 00:13:49.744 --> 00:13:51.579
  • So what does the bible mean by this?
  • 00:13:51.579 --> 00:13:53.648
  • Let's find out.
  • 00:13:53.648 --> 00:13:55.049
  • It uses the word "unquenchable fire."
  • 00:13:55.049 --> 00:13:57.418
  • Matthew 3, verse 12, jesus said: "he will thoroughly clean out
  • 00:13:57.418 --> 00:14:01.356
  • The threshing floor and gather his wheat into the barn: but he
  • 00:14:01.356 --> 00:14:05.760
  • Will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire."
  • 00:14:05.760 --> 00:14:11.199
  • What does unquenchable fire mean?
  • 00:14:11.199 --> 00:14:14.602
  • Quench is a verb.
  • 00:14:14.602 --> 00:14:16.404
  • It means to extinguish.
  • 00:14:16.404 --> 00:14:18.773
  • There is nobody that is going to be putting out the fires
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  • Of hell.
  • 00:14:22.310 --> 00:14:23.645
  • There are no firemen in hell.
  • 00:14:23.645 --> 00:14:25.947
  • That would be putting it out.
  • 00:14:25.947 --> 00:14:27.315
  • There's nothing that can be done to put it out.
  • 00:14:27.315 --> 00:14:29.284
  • Let me prove it to you.
  • 00:14:29.284 --> 00:14:30.752
  • Jeremiah 17, verse 27,
  • 00:14:30.752 --> 00:14:33.321
  • Here's a prophecy of jeremiah.
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  • He lived before the babylonian captivity:
  • 00:14:35.757 --> 00:14:38.826
  • "but if you will not heed me to hallow the sabbath day,
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  • Such as not carrying a burden
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  • When entering the gates of jerusalem on the sabbath day,
  • 00:14:44.599 --> 00:14:47.568
  • Then i will kindle a fire in its gates, and it will devour the
  • 00:14:47.568 --> 00:14:51.773
  • Palaces of jerusalem, and they will not be," what?
  • 00:14:51.773 --> 00:14:56.210
  • "quenched."
  • 00:14:56.210 --> 00:14:57.912
  • Now, do you know what happened?
  • 00:14:57.912 --> 00:14:59.747
  • They didn't listen.
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  • They did not repent.
  • 00:15:01.082 --> 00:15:02.450
  • Nebuchadnezzar came.
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  • He destroyed the city.
  • 00:15:04.118 --> 00:15:05.520
  • He burnt the city.
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  • The gates were burned.
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  • No firemen showed up.
  • 00:15:08.222 --> 00:15:09.757
  • It was unquenchable fire.
  • 00:15:09.757 --> 00:15:13.127
  • The temple was burnt, unquenchable fire.
  • 00:15:13.127 --> 00:15:16.698
  • It was destroyed.
  • 00:15:16.698 --> 00:15:18.800
  • That just simply means that there's no active problem,
  • 00:15:18.800 --> 00:15:22.603
  • There's no active party involved in extinguishing it.
  • 00:15:22.603 --> 00:15:26.140
  • The work that the fire of hell does is eternal.
  • 00:15:26.140 --> 00:15:30.812
  • Doesn't come back again.
  • 00:15:30.812 --> 00:15:32.547
  • That's our next question.
  • 00:15:32.547 --> 00:15:34.682
  • "doesn't the phrase 'eternal fire' mean unending?"
  • 00:15:34.682 --> 00:15:38.853
  • Well, you got to read things in their context.
  • 00:15:38.853 --> 00:15:41.155
  • Let's look at some examples.
  • 00:15:41.155 --> 00:15:43.391
  • "sodom and gomorrah," in jude 1, verse 7, what does god mean by
  • 00:15:43.391 --> 00:15:46.394
  • Eternal fire?
  • 00:15:46.394 --> 00:15:47.762
  • "sodom and gomorrah," and the cities around them, "they are
  • 00:15:47.762 --> 00:15:50.999
  • Set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of,"
  • 00:15:50.999 --> 00:15:54.535
  • What kind of fire?
  • 00:15:54.535 --> 00:15:56.738
  • "eternal fire."
  • 00:15:56.738 --> 00:15:58.072
  • Now here's the question.
  • 00:15:58.072 --> 00:15:59.440
  • Are sodom and gomorrah still burning today?
  • 00:15:59.440 --> 00:16:02.944
  • Were the cities ever rebuilt?
  • 00:16:02.944 --> 00:16:05.747
  • Was the result of the fire eternal?
  • 00:16:05.747 --> 00:16:08.916
  • There was no forgiveness, no resurrection, no rebuilding.
  • 00:16:08.916 --> 00:16:12.954
  • This is what's going to happen to the fate of the loss.
  • 00:16:12.954 --> 00:16:14.889
  • It means the results of this fire is eternal.
  • 00:16:14.889 --> 00:16:18.593
  • I've got this plexiglas pulpit, ostensibly, hot enough,
  • 00:16:18.593 --> 00:16:22.196
  • It'll melt.
  • 00:16:22.196 --> 00:16:23.531
  • I know that because pastor doug was once in a juvenile hall, and
  • 00:16:23.531 --> 00:16:27.702
  • I wanted to escape.
  • 00:16:27.702 --> 00:16:29.237
  • And i got some matches, and i was able to burn the plexiglas
  • 00:16:29.237 --> 00:16:32.707
  • Hinges so that i could get out of the juvenile hall.
  • 00:16:32.707 --> 00:16:35.676
  • So plexiglas burns.
  • 00:16:35.676 --> 00:16:37.011
  • I know that.
  • 00:16:37.011 --> 00:16:39.747
  • So that's a very nice pulpit.
  • 00:16:39.747 --> 00:16:42.116
  • If we should toss that pulpit in a bonfire and burn it up, you
  • 00:16:42.116 --> 00:16:45.853
  • Can say it was burnt with eternal fire because you will
  • 00:16:45.853 --> 00:16:48.022
  • Never see that pulpit again.
  • 00:16:48.022 --> 00:16:50.758
  • See what i'm saying?
  • 00:16:50.758 --> 00:16:52.093
  • God is saying, the results of the fire are eternal.
  • 00:16:52.093 --> 00:16:54.495
  • He emphasizes that because right now, if you die and you're
  • 00:16:54.495 --> 00:16:58.332
  • Saved, don't lose hope.
  • 00:16:58.332 --> 00:17:00.034
  • There's a resurrection.
  • 00:17:00.034 --> 00:17:02.003
  • But you know what god calls the destruction of the wicked?
  • 00:17:02.003 --> 00:17:04.672
  • The second death.
  • 00:17:04.672 --> 00:17:06.874
  • There is no resurrection.
  • 00:17:06.874 --> 00:17:08.676
  • Number 11: "when revelation 20, verse 10 states that the wicked
  • 00:17:08.676 --> 00:17:13.247
  • Will be tormented 'for ever.'"
  • 00:17:13.247 --> 00:17:14.615
  • Now this is probably the most difficult verse.
  • 00:17:14.615 --> 00:17:16.784
  • It says forever, pastor doug.
  • 00:17:16.784 --> 00:17:18.186
  • Doesn't that mean they're burnt forever?
  • 00:17:18.186 --> 00:17:20.555
  • Let the bible interpret itself.
  • 00:17:20.555 --> 00:17:23.791
  • Sometimes god uses these terms, like i said in hyperbole, you've
  • 00:17:23.791 --> 00:17:27.829
  • Got to use it in its context.
  • 00:17:27.829 --> 00:17:30.031
  • Can you find other examples in the bible where god uses the
  • 00:17:30.031 --> 00:17:32.567
  • Word "forever," but it obviously meant until they died?
  • 00:17:32.567 --> 00:17:36.070
  • Look at the story of jonah.
  • 00:17:36.070 --> 00:17:38.039
  • How many know about jonah?
  • 00:17:38.039 --> 00:17:40.041
  • How long was jonah in the belly of the fish?
  • 00:17:40.041 --> 00:17:43.611
  • Three days and three nights.
  • 00:17:43.611 --> 00:17:44.979
  • We're going to read that in a second.
  • 00:17:44.979 --> 00:17:46.414
  • In jonah chapter 2, when he prays, what does he say:
  • 00:17:46.414 --> 00:17:49.884
  • "the earth with its bars closed behind me forever."
  • 00:17:49.884 --> 00:17:55.423
  • Now, if you were swallowed by a whale--by the way, it happened,
  • 00:17:55.423 --> 00:18:00.094
  • Oh, about six months ago.
  • 00:18:00.094 --> 00:18:01.496
  • It's actually on youtube.
  • 00:18:01.496 --> 00:18:02.864
  • You can see a guy was kayaking and a big whale came up, didn't
  • 00:18:02.864 --> 00:18:06.067
  • Know he was there in the kayak, and swallowed him.
  • 00:18:06.067 --> 00:18:08.970
  • Spit him out again.
  • 00:18:08.970 --> 00:18:10.304
  • He was okay, shook up.
  • 00:18:10.304 --> 00:18:12.006
  • He's probably getting therapy right now, but it happened, and
  • 00:18:12.006 --> 00:18:16.544
  • You can see it for yourself.
  • 00:18:16.544 --> 00:18:18.713
  • So jonah, now he was not swallowed by a baleen whale, but
  • 00:18:18.713 --> 00:18:21.883
  • Maybe a humpback or sperm whale that has the--they actually eat
  • 00:18:21.883 --> 00:18:25.353
  • Squid, who knows?
  • 00:18:25.353 --> 00:18:26.721
  • Might not have been a whale.
  • 00:18:26.721 --> 00:18:28.055
  • God prepared a fish, it could have been anything.
  • 00:18:28.055 --> 00:18:30.725
  • And he--but how long was he there?
  • 00:18:30.725 --> 00:18:33.294
  • You read in jonah chapter 1,
  • 00:18:33.294 --> 00:18:34.829
  • It says: "and jonah was in the belly of the fish three days
  • 00:18:34.829 --> 00:18:37.899
  • And three nights," a type of the sufferings of christ.
  • 00:18:37.899 --> 00:18:41.435
  • Jesus said: "no sign will be given to this generation, but
  • 00:18:41.435 --> 00:18:44.172
  • The sign of jonah," matthew chapter 12: "for as jonah was in
  • 00:18:44.172 --> 00:18:47.775
  • The belly of the great fish for three days and three nights, so
  • 00:18:47.775 --> 00:18:50.511
  • The son of man will be in the heart of the earth three days
  • 00:18:50.511 --> 00:18:53.147
  • And three nights."
  • 00:18:53.147 --> 00:18:54.482
  • The heart of the earth is describing the sufferings of
  • 00:18:54.482 --> 00:18:56.851
  • Christ that began thursday night in the tomb.
  • 00:18:56.851 --> 00:18:59.820
  • Jesus began suffering for our sins after the last supper,
  • 00:18:59.820 --> 00:19:03.057
  • Thursday night, friday night, saturday night.
  • 00:19:03.057 --> 00:19:05.126
  • He rose sunday morning, amen?
  • 00:19:05.126 --> 00:19:07.595
  • So jonah, three days, three nights, he calls it "forever."
  • 00:19:07.595 --> 00:19:11.799
  • You know, jesus suffered the way the lost will suffer.
  • 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:15.503
  • It feels like an eternity.
  • 00:19:15.503 --> 00:19:16.904
  • Can you imagine being in a sea monster in the darkness three
  • 00:19:16.904 --> 00:19:19.707
  • Days and three nights?
  • 00:19:19.707 --> 00:19:21.209
  • That whale might have had jellyfish for lunch, and then
  • 00:19:21.209 --> 00:19:24.111
  • You're in there with all that sushi in the darkness.
  • 00:19:24.111 --> 00:19:26.547
  • Can you--probably would have seemed like forever, amen?
  • 00:19:26.547 --> 00:19:29.850
  • How many of you have used that term?
  • 00:19:29.850 --> 00:19:31.752
  • You said: "man, i haven't eaten in forever.
  • 00:19:31.752 --> 00:19:33.254
  • I haven't seen them in forever."
  • 00:19:33.254 --> 00:19:35.823
  • So, you look at the context.
  • 00:19:35.823 --> 00:19:37.925
  • Now when god promises us eternal life, we know from the context,
  • 00:19:37.925 --> 00:19:42.096
  • It's unending 'cause there's so many other passages.
  • 00:19:42.096 --> 00:19:45.166
  • Here's another one.
  • 00:19:45.166 --> 00:19:47.134
  • Hannah brings her son to the temple, and she says: "if you
  • 00:19:47.134 --> 00:19:50.538
  • Give me a boy, i'll bring him to the lord, that he might serve
  • 00:19:50.538 --> 00:19:53.608
  • Before the lord there in the temple forever."
  • 00:19:53.608 --> 00:19:57.278
  • Well, did she keep her promise?
  • 00:19:57.278 --> 00:19:59.880
  • Did samuel go to the temple?
  • 00:19:59.880 --> 00:20:02.083
  • How long did he serve?
  • 00:20:02.083 --> 00:20:04.085
  • Rest of his life until he died.
  • 00:20:04.085 --> 00:20:07.688
  • Forever was when?
  • 00:20:07.688 --> 00:20:09.123
  • Until he died.
  • 00:20:09.123 --> 00:20:10.491
  • The hebrews had a law that if you had a servant, after seven
  • 00:20:10.491 --> 00:20:13.995
  • Years, you could let your hebrew servant go free.
  • 00:20:13.995 --> 00:20:16.530
  • But if your hebrew servant says: "you know, i love serving you.
  • 00:20:16.530 --> 00:20:19.033
  • I want to stay your servant."
  • 00:20:19.033 --> 00:20:20.501
  • He would go through a ritual, and it says: "and he will be
  • 00:20:20.501 --> 00:20:22.637
  • Your servant forever."
  • 00:20:22.637 --> 00:20:25.273
  • What did that mean?
  • 00:20:25.273 --> 00:20:26.607
  • Till he dies, right?
  • 00:20:26.607 --> 00:20:29.543
  • So when it's talking about the wicked being destroyed in the
  • 00:20:29.543 --> 00:20:32.380
  • Lake of fire, the reason it says: "day and night" is because
  • 00:20:32.380 --> 00:20:35.449
  • The devil is going to probably burn day and night.
  • 00:20:35.449 --> 00:20:39.086
  • But, you know, even ultimately the devil is burned up.
  • 00:20:39.086 --> 00:20:41.889
  • Read ezekiel 28, it says: "never shall you be any more forever."
  • 00:20:41.889 --> 00:20:48.396
  • He's going to destroy him.
  • 00:20:48.396 --> 00:20:50.231
  • "you will not be anymore," is the way that it actually reads.
  • 00:20:50.231 --> 00:20:54.468
  • He's gone, cease to exist.
  • 00:20:54.468 --> 00:20:57.004
  • Number 12: "are both soul and body destroyed in hell?"
  • 00:20:57.004 --> 00:21:00.975
  • Now this is one, you got to hear this friends, people think,
  • 00:21:00.975 --> 00:21:04.779
  • Well, yeah, pastor, it's pretty clear the body burns up, but the
  • 00:21:04.779 --> 00:21:08.883
  • Soul is tormented forever.
  • 00:21:08.883 --> 00:21:11.552
  • What did jesus say?
  • 00:21:11.552 --> 00:21:13.587
  • It is so clear.
  • 00:21:13.587 --> 00:21:14.989
  • Are soul and body both destroyed in hell?
  • 00:21:14.989 --> 00:21:18.592
  • Christ said in matthew chapter 10, verse 28: "do not fear those
  • 00:21:18.592 --> 00:21:23.064
  • Who kill the body, but they cannot kill the soul.
  • 00:21:23.064 --> 00:21:26.367
  • Rather fear him," meaning god, "who is able to destroy soul and
  • 00:21:26.367 --> 00:21:33.341
  • Body in hell."
  • 00:21:33.341 --> 00:21:35.343
  • How much is destroyed in hell?
  • 00:21:35.343 --> 00:21:37.578
  • What did jesus say?
  • 00:21:37.578 --> 00:21:38.946
  • "soul and body," you're gone.
  • 00:21:38.946 --> 00:21:40.948
  • Remember he said: "you sin, you die.
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  • Believe in me, you don't perish, you live.
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  • You will be punished."
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  • Everyone is punished according to what he deserves.
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  • Do you know there are varying amounts of reward?
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  • Sometimes jesus said: "great is your reward in heaven if you're
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  • Suffered, if you're persecuted for righteousness sake."
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  • And jesus concerning judas, he said to pilate: "it would have
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  • Been better for that man if he had not been born."
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  • How'd you like to be judas in the judgment and know you
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  • Betrayed jesus or be hitler or pol pot or some of these despots
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  • Of history?
  • 00:22:16.350 --> 00:22:17.985
  • There are varying degrees of reward.
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  • I not only want to get to heaven, i want to have him say:
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  • "great is your reward," amen?
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  • Some of you are thinking: "i just want to get there."
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  • Some of you are thinking: be honest: "how much sin can i have
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  • And still get there?"
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  • Wrong attitude.
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  • You want to see how far away from the edge you can be, amen?
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  • One more verse in ezekiel.
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  • It says: "the soul that sins, it will die."
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  • That's like a dictionary definition.
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  • Not just the body, "the soul that sins will die."
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  • "for whom will hellfire be kindled?"
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  • "depart," matthew 25:41: "depart from me, you cursed, into
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  • Everlasting fire prepared for," who?
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  • "the devil."
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  • Hell is not designed for you.
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  • If you go to hell, it's because you followed the wrong leader,
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  • Prepared for the devil and his angels.
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  • There are good angels, and there are bad angels that are kept in
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  • Everlasting chains.
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  • Number 14: "how does the bible refer to god's destruction of
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  • The wicked?"
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  • The bible tells us: "for the lord ...
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  • Will be angry ...
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  • That he might do his work, his awesome work, and bring to pass
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  • His act, his unusual act."
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  • God is a god of love and creation and life and blessing
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  • And good.
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  • He doesn't want anything to suffer.
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  • Who here wants to see anything suffer?
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  • But the bible's pretty clear what the faith is.
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  • Listen to the words.
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  • What's going to happen to the wicked?
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  • They are devoured, they are consumed.
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  • They perish.
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  • They are dead.
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  • They are no more.
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  • The second death, they're destroyed.
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  • These are the terms the bible uses.
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  • There are no words in the english language, or even hebrew
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  • Or greek, that god can use it could be more definitive to
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  • Explain sin will not rise up again a second time.
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  • God is not going to immortalize sinners.
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  • Sinners do not have immortality.
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  • God, the bible says: "and god only has immortality," amen?
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  • So this idea that sinners are immortalized, and they'll burn
  • 00:24:25.446 --> 00:24:29.583
  • Through eternity comes from mythology and the church often
  • 00:24:29.583 --> 00:24:33.220
  • Use it to manipulate and scare people and getting money and
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  • Getting them to do what they wanted to do.
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  • But our god is a god of mercy and love.
  • 00:24:39.894 --> 00:24:42.062
  • "after sin and sinners are destroyed, what will we have to
  • 00:24:42.062 --> 00:24:46.367
  • Look forward to?"
  • 00:24:46.367 --> 00:24:48.135
  • "nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for a new
  • 00:24:48.135 --> 00:24:52.206
  • Heavens and a," what?
  • 00:24:52.206 --> 00:24:54.308
  • "a new earth wherein dwells righteousness."
  • 00:24:54.308 --> 00:24:59.413
  • It tells us that all things are going to be made new.
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  • Doug: friends, i hope you've been blessed by today's message.
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  • But, really, the reason we do this is so that people might
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  • Know christ.
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  • You know, information is not going to save us.
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  • It's a relationship with jesus, the one who died on the cross
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  • For your sins.
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  • You must personally accept him.
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  • His arms are open wide, just come to him as you are, and
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  • Ask him.
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  • Doug: hi, friends.
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