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Amazing Facts | Doug Batchelor - A Woman, A Child, and A Dragon (Part 1) | July 13, 2025
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- Coming to you from new york city at the historic manhattan center
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- With your host, doug batchelor.
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- Join this exciting journey of discovery as we learn the truth
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- About bible prophecy.
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- Explore the timeless wisdom of god's word and see how it
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- Relates to our lives today.
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- Stay tuned, your "amazing facts" adventure begins now.
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- Doug batchelor: the study today is based on revelation
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- Chapter 12.
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- If you have your bibles, you may want to thumb your way there
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- Right now or on your bible device that you're holding,
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- Beginning with a really amazing fact.
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- In 1954, a four year old girl was abducted from her home in
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- Colombia in the mountains, and with the idea of kidnapping her
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- And asking for ransom.
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- We don't know exactly what went wrong, but something went wrong
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- And they didn't want to kill the child, so they took her off down
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- A logging road in the jungle and they let her go, four years old.
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- And of course, she cried and mourned for a while.
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- And she didn't struggle so much with thirst because it did
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- Rain frequently.
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- There was water there and the climate was somewhat mild, and
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- So she did not freeze, but she wandered around and looked for
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- Food, and eventually a group of capuchin monkeys were intrigued
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- With her and they began to drop food.
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- She lived in the jungle for five years.
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- It's just an amazing story.
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- Often tormented by insects, eventually she wore her
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- Clothes off.
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- She followed this troupe of monkeys that were watching her
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- From the tree that kind of adopted her.
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- She even got to the place where she could climb pretty well and
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- Learned to forage for food and she stayed alive.
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- When she was finally found after these years of living in the
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- Jungle, she lost all natural social inhibitions, she had no
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- Clothes, she'd forgotten how to speak her language, she didn't
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- Remember her name, and they did not ever find her real parents.
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- They gave her the name marina.
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- She eventually was young enough where she could still learn,
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- Relearn to speak both english and spanish.
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- She moved to britain, she was married, and all of this is
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- Contained in a fascinating book called "the girl with no name."
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- God provided for her in the wilderness in a miraculous way.
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- Right now she's nearly 70 years old and she can still
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- Climb trees.
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- You know, the bible talks about a woman, which is a symbol for
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- The church, and we have a true woman and a counterfeit woman in
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- Revelation 12 and revelation 17.
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- We're going to study a very important subject.
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- There are christians all over the world, go to
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- Different churches.
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- How do you know?
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- Does it matter what church?
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- Is there a true church?
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- Do you even need to go to church?
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- We're going to find out what people on the street think about
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- This subject and so let's take a look at some of their comments.
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- Female: i guess you don't really know, right?
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- I guess just whatever feels best for each person, right?
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- Female: i think it really depends.
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- I think a lot of religions have a lot of different things, but i
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- Think revelation is one of the important things.
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- I think there's only so much that old testaments and all
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- Things can predict.
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- You know, there's only so many coincidences, i feel like.
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- Male: i guess typically it would be how you're raised originally,
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- And then as you get older, you do your own investigation.
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- Female: one i grew up with.
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- Male: i think you just got to go back to whatever your parents
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- Are and stick with that, don't change it.
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- Male: how do you know what churches are false?
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- Well, depends which culture you're into really, doesn't it?
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- Male: people just need to pray a lot and you know, get some
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- Discernment, read, do their own research, read their own
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- Literature, and that's probably the best way.
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- Female: we don't, every church has its flaw.
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- You believe what you believe in your soul, and that's how
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- You live.
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- Female: well, what, how can a church be false?
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- It it may not appeal to you or to another.
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- Male: like if there's no cross in the top or like no like
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- Religious signs.
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- Male: i don't believe so.
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- I wouldn't say it matters too much.
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- Male: i believe it does only because the bible preaches
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- Baptism for admission of sins, and so i believe you must be
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- Baptized, and there's a lot of churches that don't teach them.
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- Male: no, it doesn't.
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- Just have the same, if it's the same bible, it's fine.
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- Male: not really, at least you're attending church and
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- Believe in something.
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- Doug: does truth matter?
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- Most important question that was ever asked was when pontius
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- Pilate said to jesus, "what is truth?"
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- And then he walked away from jesus and did not wait for
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- The answer.
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- He was standing there in front of the person who is the
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- Embodiment of truth.
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- Said, "what is truth?"
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- And with cynicism, he walked away figuring, "nobody can
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- Really know the truth."
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- And you can tell from the answers that we've been hearing
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- Some people say, "well, you've got your truth and i've got my
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- Truth, and there is really no absolute truth.
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- What you believe is good for you and what i believe is good
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- For me."
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- How many of you would like to go to a doctor that's doing brain
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- Surgery on you and have him say, "well, i think it's a brain, but
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- He thinks it's a cantaloupe, so, you know, whatever you believe
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- Is okay."
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- Or when you're on the airplane and you're flying across the
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- Ocean and the pilot comes on the air and says, "i realize that
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- Some of you think there are absolute laws of aerodynamics,
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- But you know, i'd like to try an experiment.
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- I think this plane will work just fine as a submarine because
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- I believe it and i'm sincere."
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- Would you want to get on that airplane?
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- Or how many of you want to know that that pilot has learned
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- There are certain absolute rules of aerodynamics and aviation.
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- And if you violate those rules, there are terrible consequences
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- Because it's unforgiving.
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- There is absolute truth regarding god and eternal life.
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- This notion that has become popular in society that, "well,
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- You got your truth and i got my truth, and who can know what
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- Truth is?"
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- It's not what the bible teaches.
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- God says, "thy word is truth," that's what jesus said.
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- There is truth.
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- Jesus said, "i am the way, i am the truth, i am the life."
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- Don't believe the devil's lie that it doesn't really matter,
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- And as long as you're sincere--how many of you have
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- Been sincere and you found out you were wrong and it didn't
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- Help that you were sincere.
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- I was driving cross country one time, going from california
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- To texas.
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- Late at night, finally needed some gas, got off on the
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- Cloverleaf and looped around.
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- This is before you had gps.
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- I looped around a couple of times and i found the
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- Gas station.
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- I filled up and i got back on the freeway and i was feeling
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- Pretty good that i was going to make great progress.
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- But as i was going down interstate 10, i kept seeing the
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- Signs that said interstate 10, i said, "i'm on the
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- Right interstate."
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- But then i started saying, "well, they must have a chain of
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- Those restaurants everywhere, because i just saw one a few
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- Miles back.
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- Then i realized i was looking at the same restaurant and it said
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- Interstate 10 west.
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- Well, i'm going to texas, i needed to be going east."
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- I had been perfectly happy and sincere, but i was never going
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- To get to texas going the wrong direction.
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- It didn't matter how sincere i was.
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- And there's a lot of people in the world today, they think,
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- "well, it doesn't really matter as long as you're sincere."
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- Oh, it does matter, friends, what you believe.
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- The truth will set you free.
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- There is a truth and knowing the truth and every element of bible
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- Truth makes you free-er.
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- So number one, first question, how does revelation picture
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- God's true church?
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- Turn to your bibles, we're going to read it first.
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- Turn to revelation chapter 12, please.
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- We'll read a few verses here, "and now a great sign appeared,"
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- Verse 1, "a great sign appeared in heaven; a woman clothed with
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- The sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a
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- Garland," that means a crown, a stephanos, "with twelve stars:
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- Then being with child, she cried out in labor and pain to give
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- Birth," this woman is great with child.
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- "and another sign appeared in heaven; and behold a great fiery
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- Red dragon, having seven heads," how many heads?
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- "seven heads and ten horns."
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- How many horns?
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- "and seven crowns on his heads.
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- And his tail drew a third of the stars of heaven, and he threw
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- Them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman
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- Who was ready to give birth, to devour her child as soon as it
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- Was born.
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- And she bore a male child, who was to rule all nations with a
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- Rod of iron: and her child was caught up to god, and
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- His throne.
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- And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she had a
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- Place prepared by god, that they should feed her there one
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- Thousand two hundred and sixty days," fed in the wilderness.
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- Now we're going to talk about that and we're going to go back
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- To the bible in just a moment.
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- So the answer, revelation chapter 12, what does it say
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- About this woman?
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- It says, a what?
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- "a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and
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- On her head a garland of twelve stars.
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- Being with child, she cried out in labor."
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- She's going through labor pains, "and in pain to give birth, and
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- She bears a male child who is to rule all nations with a rod
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- Of iron."
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- Who do you think that is?
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- That male child is jesus, the christ.
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- He is caught up to god's throne, we know jesus ascended to
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- Heaven, who is the woman?
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- What does a woman represent?
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- In the bible when it talks about this woman, she may appear here
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- Before it's over with.
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- A woman represents god's bride, and this woman who's great with
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- Child is a symbol of a church.
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- What is she wearing?
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- She's clothed with the what?
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- The sun, that's the light of god's truth that you find in the
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- New testament.
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- Standing on the moon, does the moon give light at night?
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- Does the moon have light of its own or does the moon reflect the
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- Light of the sun that will rise?
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- It is the old testament reflecting the light of the son
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- Of righteousness who would arise with healing in his wings.
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- The new testament church stands on the foundation of the
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- Promises of god in the old testament.
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- And above her head, above the head is a symbol of leadership.
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- You've got the 12 stars, and that represents the 12 tribes in
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- The old testament.
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- You've got the 12 apostles in the new testament.
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- You even have the 12 princes of moses leading israel, the 12
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- Judges of israel and the book of judges, 12, a symbol
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- Of leadership.
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- This is god's church.
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- He is clothed with sun, moon, stars.
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- Who made the sun?
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- Who made the moon?
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- Look at genesis, who made the stars?
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- This is god's light.
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- The bible says to the bride, "you are the light of the world.
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- Let your light so shine before men that they may see your good
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- Works and glorify your father which is in heaven."
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- So this woman represents the true church, okay?
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- It says, and how do we know that?
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- You read in jeremiah 6:2, god's church is symbolized by woman,
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- "i have likened the daughter of zion to a lovely and a
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- Delicate woman."
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- The sun representing the light of jesus, psalm 84, malachi 4:2,
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- Giving you these verses.
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- The moon represents the promises and the history of the old
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- Testament, which the church was built on.
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- This will all be in your lesson.
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- The stars above her head symbolize the leadership of the
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- Church and you read about the stars, it says there in
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- Revelation chapter 1, which were the ministers of the church, it
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- Was leadership.
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- The one who is to rule all nations with a rod of iron, this
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- Man child, is jesus, amen?
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- And the dragon wants to devour the man child as soon as
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- It's born.
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- Now you see this woman, but she's juxtaposed against a
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- Different woman than you find in revelation 17.
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- Okay, back to our bibles.
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- Go in your bible to revelation chapter 17.
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- We're going to start with verse 3, and you'll find that these
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- Two women are, they're actually opposites.
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- And this woman exists in the world today too.
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- Revelation 17, start with verse 3, "so he," the angel, "carried
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- Me away in the spirit into the wilderness.
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- And i saw a woman sitting on a scarlet colored beast that was
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- Full of names of blasphemy," having how many heads?
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- Seven heads, and how many horns?
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- Now, when was the last time you saw a beast with seven heads and
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- Ten horns?
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- They're not that common, are they?
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- How many would agree this is the same beast?
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- By the way, it appears in revelation 13 too.
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- This beast who is trying to destroy the woman in revelation
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- 12 is in cooperation with the woman in revelation 17.
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- What is a woman?
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- Church, so you got one woman clothed with god's light, but
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- This woman, it says she's arrayed, this is verse 4,
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- "purple, scarlet, adorned with gold, precious stones, pearls,"
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- All things you would find on earth that can be manmade,
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- "having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the
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- Filthiness of her fornication."
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- And if you have any doubt about this woman, she's got on her
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- Forehead, people have things in their forehead in revelation.
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- She's got this stamp: "mystery babylon the great, the mother
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- Of harlots."
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- She's got daughters that have come out of her, "and of
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- Abominations of the earth.
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- And the woman is drunken with the blood of the saints," so
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- This is the wrong woman.
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- You got these two women.
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- So, a woman represents what?
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- Can we use the bible and bible prophecy to try and find out if
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- God has a people in the world today?
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- Is the bible pretty clear there is the true woman of light, and
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- There is a counterfeit?
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- One is riding with the beast, the other is being persecuted by
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- The beast.
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- Doesn't matter what church you're in.
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- You don't want to be with that woman in babylon because you
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- Read revelation chapter 18:19.
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- It says babylon is going to be destroyed.
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- That harkens back to the tower of babel, man-made worship that
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- Was confused and cursed by god.
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- There in genesis chapter 11, these are the keys to
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- Understanding these things.
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- Says a woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet adorned with
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- Gold and precious stones and pearls.
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- So you've got this woman riding a beast in revelation 17.
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- This beast is a great persecuting power that we find,
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- If we go from chapter 12 to chapter 13, you're going to see
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- That beast appears again.
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- All right, number two, who is the great red dragon, and what
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- Does he try to do?
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- Now we're going back to chapter 12, "that great dragon was cast
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- Out, called the serpent of old," called what?
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- "the devil and satan."
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- So it's saying that the devil is manipulating this power,
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- This beast.
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- Now you, when you read in isaiah 14, it describes the devil, but
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- It uses the king of tyre.
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- If you look in ezekiel 28, it talks about the devil, but he's
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- Working through the king of babylon.
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- When you read revelation 12, it talks about the devil, but he's
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- Operating through the kingdom of pagan rome.
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- Says the dragon tries to devour the man child as soon as he is
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- Born, "the dragon stood before the woman who's ready to give
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- Birth, to devour her child as soon as it is born."
- 00:16:42.683 --> 00:16:47.889
- So this dragon is an enemy of christ, wants to destroy christ.
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- You know, there's several times in bible history when the devil
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- Has tried to stop the savior from coming.
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- Now the devil knew that the messiah would come.
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- He knew the incarnation would happen.
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- He didn't know exactly when.
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- When the children of israel were in egypt, he thought, "now would
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- Be the time when god would send the savior.
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- So what did he do?
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- The dragon tried to destroy all the male baby boys.
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- Do you remember the pharaoh was telling them to throw all the
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- Baby boys to the crocodiles in the nile river, but moses is
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- Spared, one is spared.
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- He becomes a savior.
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- Do you know, back during the time of athaliah, if you know
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- Your bible, if you get to 2 kings, it tells about a
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- Wicked queen.
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- She's the daughter of jezebel, another wicked queen.
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- By the way, in the time of jezebel and athaliah, there is a
- 00:17:43.878 --> 00:17:47.682
- Three and half year period, 1,260 days, just
- 00:17:47.682 --> 00:17:51.519
- Like revelation.
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- And her son ahaziah is killed in battle by jehu.
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- She does not want one of the sons of david to rule.
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- Athaliah is a pagan.
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- Her mother, jezebel is a pagan.
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- She wants to be queen.
- 00:18:05.032 --> 00:18:06.400
- Well, among the jews they had kings, they didn't have queens.
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- The men ruled.
- 00:18:10.371 --> 00:18:11.906
- So, but she wants to be queen, so she kills all of the babies
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- Of david, the descendants of david.
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- She kills all of her grandchildren.
- 00:18:19.847 --> 00:18:21.349
- Boy, talk about cold-blooded.
- 00:18:21.349 --> 00:18:24.185
- But one escapes.
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- His name is joash, and he ends up being in the temple of god.
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- He comes out of the temple of god when he's seven years old.
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- They blow the trumpets, they coronate him king, she is
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- Destroyed, something like when jesus, our savior, the son of
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- David, christ.
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- He's going to come from the heavenly temple, the trumpets
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- Will blow, the people will rejoice, and
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- Babylon's destroyed.
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- What you see happening in the bible is going to be repeated in
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- The future.
- 00:18:51.112 --> 00:18:52.480
- This is what revelation is talking about.
- 00:18:52.480 --> 00:18:55.082
- So the devil under herod using the roman power.
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- How many remember when herod sent his soldiers to bethlehem?
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- They said well there's a baby, he's the new king of the jews.
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- You know what herod's official title was?
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- The romans gave him the title "king of the jews."
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- So when the wise men come into jerusalem, they said, "where is
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- He that is born king of the jews."
- 00:19:13.834 --> 00:19:15.203
- And herod said, "what did you say?"
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- He said, "oh, yeah, yeah.
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- I'd like to know about when you find him.
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- Tell me when you find him, i would like to worship him too."
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- He wanted to kill him.
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- The devil was working, the dragon through pagan rome.
- 00:19:29.584 --> 00:19:37.358
- And then later you find the devil starts working through the
- 00:19:37.358 --> 00:19:40.328
- Church papal rome during the dark ages.
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- Number three, what happens after satan fails to destroy jesus?
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- You know, did the devil try to destroy jesus on the cross?
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- Did he try to keep him in the tomb?
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- Could the devil keep him in the tomb?
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- Did christ ascend to heaven?
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- Now the devil cannot hurt jesus anymore, can he?
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- He's out of his reach.
- 00:20:01.449 --> 00:20:02.917
- So what does the devil do now?
- 00:20:02.917 --> 00:20:05.453
- Says, "her child is caught up to god and his throne."
- 00:20:05.453 --> 00:20:09.357
- As the disciples watch in acts chapter 2 , jesus ascended, and
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- He's caught up in a cloud of angels.
- 00:20:13.060 --> 00:20:15.029
- And the bible said that as he left, he will come, amen?
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- He's coming in the clouds with all of the angels of heaven.
- 00:20:18.032 --> 00:20:22.603
- But in the meantime, the devil now vents his fury, the devil
- 00:20:22.603 --> 00:20:26.807
- Wants to hurt jesus by hurting what jesus loves.
- 00:20:26.807 --> 00:20:32.213
- If you want to hurt somebody, you don't just torture them, but
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- Torture their child in front of them.
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- I remember once when one of our boys was 18 months old, he had
- 00:20:40.221 --> 00:20:46.093
- Spinal meningitis.
- 00:20:46.093 --> 00:20:48.095
- They didn't know, so they had to do a test it's called the
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- Spinal tap.
- 00:20:52.500 --> 00:20:54.869
- But because we had come to the doctor off hours, they had an
- 00:20:54.869 --> 00:20:57.638
- Intern there that was in training, they call it
- 00:20:57.638 --> 00:21:01.242
- Practicing medicine.
- 00:21:01.242 --> 00:21:03.911
- And we watched as the hospital staff held down our beautiful 18
- 00:21:03.911 --> 00:21:08.616
- Month baby boy, and he tried to push the needle into his spine
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- And find the right spot to drain out spinal fluid, and our little
- 00:21:13.721 --> 00:21:17.758
- Boy, they can't numb them at the time, and our little boy is
- 00:21:17.758 --> 00:21:21.462
- Looking up with his eyes wild with tears, he's going, "daddy,
- 00:21:21.462 --> 00:21:24.932
- Daddy, daddy, why are you letting them hurt me?"
- 00:21:24.932 --> 00:21:28.102
- And it broke my heart.
- 00:21:28.102 --> 00:21:29.437
- I would have traded places with him just like that.
- 00:21:29.437 --> 00:21:33.074
- The devil knows that jesus loves us.
- 00:21:33.074 --> 00:21:35.743
- He wants to hurt jesus by hurting his people.
- 00:21:35.743 --> 00:21:39.046
- That's why he persecutes the church.
- 00:21:39.046 --> 00:21:42.416
- After jesus is caught up to heaven, what does satan do to
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- The church?
- 00:21:45.386 --> 00:21:47.154
- "when the dragon saw that he had been cast to the earth, he
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- Persecuted the woman who gave birth to the child."
- 00:21:51.892 --> 00:21:57.064
- After christ ascended to heaven, some of the most severe
- 00:21:57.064 --> 00:21:59.900
- Persecution came upon the church.
- 00:21:59.900 --> 00:22:02.570
- How many have heard the stories of what nero and diocletian and
- 00:22:02.570 --> 00:22:07.375
- The different roman emperors did to the christians in
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- The colosseums?
- 00:22:09.543 --> 00:22:10.878
- It's not just the fables, they were fed to wild beasts.
- 00:22:10.878 --> 00:22:15.149
- Nero smeared pitch on the christians and lit them on fire
- 00:22:15.149 --> 00:22:19.453
- Alive to light his gardens as they writhed in pain.
- 00:22:19.453 --> 00:22:24.625
- It was terrible.
- 00:22:24.625 --> 00:22:25.993
- Why do you think the catacombs are under rome?
- 00:22:25.993 --> 00:22:28.696
- Because they had to go underground, so to speak.
- 00:22:28.696 --> 00:22:31.632
- It was called "religio illicita."
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- Even in the bible, you can see where paul and the jews had been
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- Expelled from rome by the emperor.
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- See, the roman empire had tolerated many religions as long
- 00:22:41.342 --> 00:22:44.779
- As you still held up the roman religion is supreme, but when
- 00:22:44.779 --> 00:22:48.249
- The christians said "no, we're not going to offer incense to
- 00:22:48.249 --> 00:22:50.818
- Your pagan gods, they outlawed the religion, and it became
- 00:22:50.818 --> 00:22:54.688
- "religio illicita."
- 00:22:54.688 --> 00:22:56.424
- That's why paul says it may be better if you don't get married
- 00:22:56.424 --> 00:22:59.894
- And have a family right now because of the persecution is
- 00:22:59.894 --> 00:23:02.530
- So intense.
- 00:23:02.530 --> 00:23:04.732
- So the devil tried to destroy the church with plan a.
- 00:23:04.732 --> 00:23:08.869
- Plan a was annihilation, extermination, genocide.
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- Feed them to the lions, kill them off in the mines, work them
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- To death, crucify them.
- 00:23:16.644 --> 00:23:19.447
- When nero burned rome, he blamed it on the christians.
- 00:23:19.447 --> 00:23:22.650
- Nero burned rome because he didn't like the
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- Wooden tenements.
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- He wanted marble structures and he thought, "i got to get rid of
- 00:23:26.620 --> 00:23:28.489
- All these poor people."
- 00:23:28.489 --> 00:23:30.558
- He set the city on fire, watched it burn, played his fiddle,
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- You've heard the story.
- 00:23:33.594 --> 00:23:35.296
- And when they were outraged, he said, "the christians did it."
- 00:23:35.296 --> 00:23:37.998
- He said, "by the way, you know, the christians are living
- 00:23:37.998 --> 00:23:39.767
- Underground, and they're cannibals.
- 00:23:39.767 --> 00:23:43.404
- They believe in eating the flesh and drinking the blood of jesus,
- 00:23:43.404 --> 00:23:47.074
- They're cannibals," and they had terrible propaganda against
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- Christians, and the christians experienced a
- 00:23:49.977 --> 00:23:52.279
- Terrible persecution.
- 00:23:52.279 --> 00:23:53.614
- Not only that, during this time, the jews rebelled against the
- 00:23:53.614 --> 00:23:57.685
- Romans, and people saw christianity and judaism.
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- They kept the same sabbath, they worship the same god, they read
- 00:24:00.654 --> 00:24:03.724
- The same bible, they saw them as sort of the same thing.
- 00:24:03.724 --> 00:24:06.594
- And so the jews became very hated after 70 ad.
- 00:24:06.594 --> 00:24:11.799
- And so judaism and christianity were both outlawed, and
- 00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:16.804
- Christians and jews were being exterminated in mass, destroyed,
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- Enslaved, property taken away, scattered around the empire.
- 00:24:23.077 --> 00:24:28.148
- But you know what happened?
- 00:24:28.148 --> 00:24:30.484
- The seed of christianity is the blood of the martyrs.
- 00:24:30.484 --> 00:24:36.223
- The more they mowed them down, the more they grew.
- 00:24:36.223 --> 00:24:39.994
- Because the pagans would come to the colosseum and they'd watch
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- These christians before they're being fed to wild animals,
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- Calmly pray.
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- They had expressions of peace and joy.
- 00:24:48.269 --> 00:24:51.605
- They looked like they were on their way to a wedding, because
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- They knew their next conscious thought was the resurrection and
- 00:24:53.741 --> 00:24:57.011
- Seeing the lord.
- 00:24:57.011 --> 00:24:58.379
- And they said, "why are they so peaceful?
- 00:24:58.379 --> 00:25:00.814
- Why are they so brave?"
- 00:25:00.814 --> 00:25:03.417
- And they started asking questions and christianity
- 00:25:03.417 --> 00:25:06.086
- Kept spreading.
- 00:25:06.086 --> 00:25:08.389
- And the devil said, "this is not working."
- 00:25:08.389 --> 00:25:10.791
- So he went to plan b, whereas if you can't destroy them from the
- 00:25:10.791 --> 00:25:15.195
- Outside, destroy them from the inside.
- 00:25:15.195 --> 00:25:17.665
- He legalized christianity and he co-mingled paganism
- 00:25:17.665 --> 00:25:22.303
- And christianity.
- 00:25:22.303 --> 00:25:23.671
- Doug: you know, jesus came into our world for three reasons.
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- First of all, he came as our example, to live a life that we
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- Might follow his steps.
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- He came to show us the father.
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- He said, "if you've seen me, you've seen the father."
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- And then he came as our sacrifice.
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- He died on the cross as a substitute for all our sins, but
- 00:25:39.420 --> 00:25:43.257
- We must come to him.
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- We repent of our sins, we confess, he'll receive us with
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- Loving arms.
- 00:25:47.561 --> 00:25:48.896
- Why don't you ask him now?
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- Doug: hi friends, i trust you being blessed by what
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- So if you'd like to get them, simply follow the instructions
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- You will be glad you did.
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- Doug: you ever wondered, why are there so many different
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- Church denominations?
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- You might be surprised to learn that god foretold this would
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- Happen in prophecy.
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- To learn more about it, make sure and request your free copy
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- Of "the bride of christ."
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- This fascinating study guide is going to show you the bible
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- Prophecies that answer this important question.
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- To get your free copy, simply follow the instructions on
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- Doug: what you've seen just now is only part one in
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- This presentation.
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- Make sure and join us for part two in our next broadcast for
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- Some of the most important points on this topic and to
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- Complete the corresponding study guides.
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- Until then, god bless.
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