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Behind the Scenes: God Still Speaks (Part 1)

November 21, 2025 | S1 | 24:47

Behind the Scenes: God Still Speaks (Part 1)
God Still Speaks is a dynamic monthly series where Matt Crouch and Sunil Isaac explore how God continues to speak in our world today.
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Behind the Scenes | Behind the Scenes: God Still Speaks (Part 1) | November 21, 2025
  • I will bless the lord at all times,
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  • And his praise will continually be in our mouths.
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  • Welcome to "behind the scenes."
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  • For all you old-timers that have
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  • Been watching tbn for a hundred years, not 100, 53, to be exact,
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  • That was my dad's kind of way that he would do
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  • "behind the scenes."
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  • If you go back about 30 years, i would sit with my dad,
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  • Paul crouch, and we would do live "behind the scenes."
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  • That was a different set in a different state.
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  • Today we welcome you here to "the plex."
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  • We're here in dallas, texas.
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  • My guest today sunil isaac.
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  • Sunil, what are we kind of talking about today?
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  • >> sunil isaac: we're talking about god still speaks today.
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  • >> matt: okay.
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  • >> sunil: i think in this day and age, matt,
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  • It's changed so much over the years, and quickly,
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  • With ai and different-- you've got different voices.
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  • You can actually fake a voice, manufacture a person that for
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  • Instance looks just like tom cruise and give a message.
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  • And unless you hear from god himself,
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  • It's gonna be hard to navigate the waters we're living in
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  • Today.
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  • >> matt: god speaks today.
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  • We're gonna show you a few roll-ins a few minutes and do
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  • Some stuff here.
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  • But tbn is proof of that.
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  • My mom and dad were working for a commercial television station
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  • In los angeles in the early 70's.
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  • And my dad heard the lord, looked at my mom one day
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  • And said,
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  • "jan, you're not gonna believe what the lord just said to me."
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  • And she said, "no, i will.
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  • He just said the same thing to me.
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  • He's released us from our work here."
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  • Then about three months later,
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  • My mom and dad thought maybe they should get into
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  • Tv station ownership.
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  • The lord spoke again.
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  • My dad heard him say, call angel lerma.
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  • My dad called.
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  • That was tv station number one.
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  • So, the lord speaks.
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  • Tbn is proof of that.
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  • And let's maybe connect god's voice to current events.
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  • Let's use something in the news.
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  • What do you want to use today?
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  • >> sunil: the biggest event that's happened recently is,
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  • The peace agreement in gaza.
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  • We live in a time where there's so much news
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  • That happens so fast.
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  • It's easy to forget the atrocity that took place on
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  • October 7, 2023.
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  • In this day and age, terrorists were wearing go pros.
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  • And the images, we'll never forget it.
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  • We can never unsee it.
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  • And we've seen anti-semitism over the years.
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  • The following year, the following months
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  • All over america.
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  • As people protested and almost justified what this terror
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  • Organization did.
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  • The atrocities.
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  • And, this president came in this year, trump 47,
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  • And he started to work it.
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  • And suddenly he came to israel and for the first time in two
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  • Years hostages are being released.
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  • I was watching that monumental moment, matt.
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  • All i could think about is,
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  • Surely, this moment didn't just transpire suddenly.
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  • God's hand has been orchestrating events to bring us
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  • To this moment.
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  • I'm so honored to be here on tbn,
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  • And your parents obeying the voice of god has profoundly
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  • Affected my life.
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  • I grew up with tbn in the house.
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  • In fact, my favorite show was the show that came on weekends
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  • At night.
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  • It was called "real videos."
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  • >> matt: don't go to a clip of that, by the way.
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  • Editor's note.
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  • Leave that alone.
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  • If anyone remembers, let them use their on brain, okay?
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  • >> sunil: i loved that show.
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  • So i grew up on tbn.
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  • And then when i--
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  • Actually heard the voice of the lord for the first time.
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  • It was at a time in my life where he was frankly living a
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  • Life of compromise.
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  • I was sometimes in the church doing the things the right way,
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  • Sometimes doing things the wrong way.
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  • I heard the voice of the lord.
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  • It wasn't audible.
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  • But the words were, i've never failed you.
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  • And it was such a statement of love to me when all i had to
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  • Give to him was a lot of failure.
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  • But he was like, i've never failed you.
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  • And it completely changed my life.
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  • You know what i did, matt, i came back home after hearing
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  • That voice.
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  • I delved into this bible.
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  • And, frankly, tbn turned out to be my bible school.
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  • I would watch hours.
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  • >> matt: we're gonna get into current events,
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  • And we're gonna go to some clips.
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  • But real quickly, why am i talking to you about these?
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  • Why are you the guest today?
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  • And, i think you had the hardest job in the history of the world.
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  • You were the drummer for kim clement.
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  • So, can you knock out a beat on the desk just to prove
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  • You're a drummer.
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  • (sunil drums on table).
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  • >> matt: that's decent.
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  • I could have probably done that, sunil.
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  • But, the only harder job in the world would have been to be
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  • Kim clement's sound man, which i found myself doing on occasion.
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  • So the drummer being the second hardest position.
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  • But, you were involved in kim's ministry.
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  • Kim clement in some ways is as well-known or maybe even more
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  • Well known today than he was-- he's in heaven today,
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  • But a lot of his words are reverberating.
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  • Current event.
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  • We've had a family feud basically happening in israel
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  • For 3,000 years.
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  • When you go to abraham, isaac, jacob,
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  • Then you go to jacob and esau,
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  • We've basically been living a family feud for about
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  • 3,000 years.
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  • Trump 45 had a lot of peace initiatives with the
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  • Abraham accords.
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  • Tbn was in the middle of that.
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  • We created those documentaries.
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  • They've aired here on tbn.
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  • Trump 47 was just in the middle east.
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  • And when you think of how important those days,
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  • Just behind us a little bit here, were,
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  • And they're still unfolding.
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  • And that peace treaty is fragile,
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  • But holding in all of that.
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  • It makes you go back, and we've got some roll-ins
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  • That i want to go to.
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  • First of all, kim clement, a quick little thing.
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  • Thirty-nine seconds.
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  • Watch this.
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  • >> kim clement: there will be a praying president,
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  • Not a religious one.
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  • For i will fool the people, says the lord.
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  • I will fool the people, yes, i will.
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  • God says, the one that is chosen shall go in and they shall say,
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  • "he has hot blood."
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  • For the spirit of god says, yes,
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  • He may have hot blood, but he will bring the walls of
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  • Protection on this country in a greater way,
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  • And the economy of this country shall change rapidly,
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  • Says the lord of host, listen to the word of the lord.
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  • God says, i will put at your helm for two-terms a president
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  • That will pray,
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  • But he will not be a praying president when he starts.
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  • >> matt: wouldn't it be great if kim would have said,
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  • A two-term president with a big gap in the middle?
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  • That would have been really easy for us to understand.
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  • Which is one of the concepts today.
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  • Before we go to another clip with cece winans,
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  • Sometimes the lord speaks very clearly, like in my dad's case,
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  • Call angel lerma.
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  • That's very clear.
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  • But sometimes there's mysteries or clues, why is that?
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  • >> sunil: yes.
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  • I believe, it's all about relationship.
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  • It would be one thing for instance,
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  • I like to think about this.
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  • If my daughter, of course everything i have is hers.
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  • But i have a relationship with her and i crave that
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  • Relationship.
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  • If she came to me and just, for instance,
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  • Got my credit card and never spoke to me,
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  • There would be an emptiness there.
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  • I feel like that's how god is with us.
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  • He wants relationship with us.
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  • He wants to partner with us.
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  • So he gives a prophetic word.
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  • It may not be clear initially.
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  • But as we journey with him, go along the prophetic journey,
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  • Our relationship deepens, our intimacy deepens.
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  • So something that i 100% believe,
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  • Scripture says a word of knowledge.
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  • It is just a word.
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  • It's not a sentence.
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  • It's not a paragraph.
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  • It's just a word.
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  • But, as we go along and as we progress,
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  • That word connects with another word and turns into a sentence.
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  • And not only does the word evolve and become clearer over
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  • Time, but we evolve and can handle that.
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  • >> matt: so you're saying that sometimes the lord will speak in
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  • A bit of a mystery so that it baits you to either engage to it
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  • And draw closer to the lord for more meaning,
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  • Or if everything the lord ever said was super clear,
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  • We would be more robotic, and we wouldn't be creating.
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  • And the third thing is, are you suggesting that children get
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  • Your credit card every once in awhile?
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  • That happens?
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  • >> sunil: that happens.
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  • I usually hand it out.
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  • >> matt: yes, i know.
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  • Before we go to break, winans was talking about
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  • Listening to the voice of the lord.
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  • This is a piece from "better together."
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  • Watch this.
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  • >> cece winans: i was probably about 17.
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  • I don't know how old i was, but young.
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  • Me and my brother, bebe, we were about to sign a contract.
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  • And we're sitting in the office.
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  • And bebe's like, "cece, come on.
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  • Let's sign the contract."
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  • I was just like.
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  • "i don't know, i don't feel like i'm supposed to."
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  • I started crying.
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  • I was like, "i don't know.
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  • I just don't feel like i should."
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  • He was like, "come on.
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  • What's the big deal?
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  • What's the big deal?"
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  • So, i said, "okay, all right."
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  • I'm signing it i'm signing it in tears.
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  • That was the worst five years that i had to walk through.
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  • I learned in that moment.
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  • It was just like that was the spirit of god telling me,
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  • Warning me.
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  • Don't ever be pressured to do something when you already know.
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  • So i really learned from that.
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  • It was a hard lesson.
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  • But i realized that that's the way god was talking to me.
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  • >> matt: so sometimes you see in a clip like that with cece,
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  • The lord is kind of warning at some point.
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  • She walked through a season of time that the lord was
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  • Trying to prevent.
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  • So, sunil, we're talking about the lord leading you,
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  • The lord warning you, but the lord is still speaking.
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  • We're gonna get to some clips with lance wallnau
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  • And hank kunneman,
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  • Brandon biggs and kim again here in just a moment.
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  • We'll be right back in just a minute.
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  • We'll be right back in just a minute.
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  • If you just tuned in, you're watching "behind the scenes."
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  • We're right here at our brand new production facility right
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  • Here in fort worth, texas in the dallas metroplex.
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  • Sunil, we're talking about some guys.
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  • These next four clips are talking about a pretty dramatic
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  • Event that happened to the president of the united states.
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  • We're gonna get to that.
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  • Let's start with lance wallnau.
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  • Lance has a quick word for us.
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  • >> lance wallnau: i am here with a group of people that are
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  • Praying for and encouraging mr. donald trump.
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  • These are the tribe.
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  • Would you all encourage him?
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  • (crowd cheering)
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  • Because god has given this man an anointing for the mantle of
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  • Government in the united states,
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  • And he will prosper.
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  • >> sunil: matt, what i love about that word,
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  • That was given on october 27, 2015.
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  • Let's think about that.
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  • Who was trump at that time?
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  • He had just tossed his hat into the ring.
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  • He had just come down the escalator at trump towers
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  • Announcing his candidacy.
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  • But he was more famous for being on the apprentice,
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  • Being a real estate tycoon in new york city, trump towers.
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  • Definite outsider.
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  • That is one of the struggles we all face when we're trying to
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  • Hear the voice of god.
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  • There are so many competing voices.
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  • The media is already not giving him a chance.
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  • And then lance comes out with that statement.
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  • Along with that video, he put this caption on
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  • His facebook post.
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  • "i shared with this crowd an unusual experience i had the
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  • Other night.
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  • I realized that the next president of the united states
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  • Will be the 45 president.
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  • I sensed the lord tell me to look at the 45th chapter of
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  • Isaiah to see who the 45 president of the
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  • United states is?
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  • Isaiah 45:1 says.
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  • "this is what the lord says to his anointed:"
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  • "cyrus, whose right hand i have grasped to subdue nations
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  • Before him,
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  • As i strip kings of their armor,
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  • To open doors before him and gates that cannot be closed."
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  • Lance goes on to say.
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  • I told them my experience and asked them to consider standing
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  • Behind mr. trump.
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  • "mr. trump is not as evangelical as the other candidates.
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  • But i've been with him twice.
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  • He fears god as best he knows him,
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  • And he is the only cyrus i see fulfilling isaiah 45 for the
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  • 45th president."
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  • What's interesting about this,
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  • When i saw trump speaking at the knesset along with netanyahu,
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  • All of israel rejoiced.
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  • But let's put up this image that was all throughout jerusalem and
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  • Tel aviv.
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  • As trump came in, they welcomed trump with this image saying,
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  • There is a picture of trump.
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  • "it says cyrus the great is alive."
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  • Resonating with that
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  • Prophetic word given ten years ago.
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  • You saw the crowd with lance there.
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  • It wasn't stadiums.
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  • It wasn't arenas, like trump went on to pack out.
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  • It was just a group of a few hundred people that believed god
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  • Is still speaking today.
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  • >> matt: hank kunneman.
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  • Hank is someone i met before.
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  • This was from may of 2021.
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  • Watch this.
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  • >> hank kunneman: i'm putting my hand even stronger upon two men
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  • In the earth.
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  • And you will see it.
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  • And there is celebration that is happening right now in the
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  • Spirit realm, as this anointing is going to increase,
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  • Their voice shall become louder, their position shall be granted
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  • And given, and it should be stronger.
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  • I speak of netanyahu and i speak of donald trump,
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  • Says the living god.
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  • The enemy thought he could divide israel from
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  • The united states.
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  • But god said, i will rejoin their hands again,
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  • Says the living god.
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  • You shook hands, netanyahu and president trump,
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  • And there is still assignments that must happen now.
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  • >> matt: that is a key phrase there.
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  • There are assignments that must happen now.
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  • But that was from '21.
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  • >> sunil: yes, 2021.
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  • And remember, let's go back in time.
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  • Sometimes it's easy to forget.
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  • At that stage trump was toxic.
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  • If you were associated with trump,
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  • Because january 6th had happened.
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  • There were criminal investigations against him at
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  • The time.
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  • He was suspended from twitter, facebook, instagram.
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  • Here you are.
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  • You have pastor hank kunneman, pastors a great church in
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  • Nebraska--
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  • >> matt: by the way, were you playing the drums?
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  • >> sunil: i was actually playing the drums in that clip.
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  • Yes.
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  • And what i love about the prophetic.
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  • You have to dial out the noise.
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  • And when god says something to you,
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  • You have to have the courage to say it.
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  • >> matt: it feels like that's the key.
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  • What are you gonna listen to?
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  • Just hear my word.
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  • Just believe it.
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  • Paul and jan crouch, my parents, heard the voice of the lord,
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  • They left their job, they called a guy.
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  • They didn't have the money to buy the channel.
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  • They just believed that
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  • More than they believed anything else.
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  • More than they doubted.
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  • They believed.
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  • So, it's interesting that this is what i believe the lord wants
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  • To do in our generation, is to train people to hear the voice
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  • Of the lord, and believe that more than
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  • They believe anything else.
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  • Because, contextually, may 23, 2021,
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  • Was one of the worst seasons of donald trump's life.
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  • Everyone was coming after him,
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  • Tooth and tong.
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  • Amazing word.
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  • There was more for them to do.
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  • And, news flash, recently in the middle east,
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  • There's donald trump and netanyahu brokering one of the
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  • Largest peace events.
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  • The mainstream media is largely ignoring.
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  • Here we are talking about it, because it matters.
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  • Brandon biggs.
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  • I don't know brandon.
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  • I never met brandon.
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  • But this is from march of 2024.
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  • Watch this.
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  • >> brandon biggs: the lord told me.
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  • He said, "i am not done with america."
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  • He said,
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  • "there's going to be a new wave of patriotism coming out."
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  • I saw trump rising up.
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  • And then i saw an attempt on his life.
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  • That this bullet flew by his ear,
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  • And it came so close to his head that it busted his eardrum.
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  • And i saw, he fell to his knees during this time frame.
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  • >> matt: that sounds like he was being interviewed after the
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  • Event where there was an assassination.
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  • But that was four months prior.
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  • So, most people would go, okay, wait a second, no.
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  • That has to be him talking after.
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  • But it's not.
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  • That is the fore knowledge.
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  • But, if you take hank kunneman's word and if you take kim
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  • Clement's word from years ago,
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  • You start adding up all these little--
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  • If you start connecting those dots,
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  • Which is largely what you're doing for us here.
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  • Look, sunil was the brain trust here.
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  • He was a drummer for kim clement and hank kunneman.
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  • And so, he has been at a thousand prophetic meetings.
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  • He's the one that's taking this and drawing the
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  • Through put here.
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  • So, let me go back to a clip that we ran at the beginning of
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  • The show just to show you that there is a through put here.
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  • Watch this.
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  • >> kim clement: there will be a praying president.
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  • Not a religious one.
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  • For i will fool the people, says the lord.
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  • I will fool the people.
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  • Yes, i will.
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  • God says, the one that is chosen shall go in, and they shall say,
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  • He has hot blood.
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  • For the spirit of god says, yes, he may have hot blood,
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  • But he will bring the walls of protection on this country in a
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  • Greater way, and the economy of this country shall change
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  • Rapidly, says the lord of hosts, listen to the word of the lord.
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  • God says, i will put at your helm for two terms a president
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  • That will pray,
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  • But he will not be a praying president when he starts.
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  • >> matt: i bet after that bullet whizzed by his ear that he
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  • Offered up a few prayers, certainly of thanksgiving.
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  • And we're seeing a lot of religious freedom in regard to
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  • This president, 47.
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  • So, you've pulled a thread.
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  • You've shown us some words.
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  • Very specifically that there was a mantle, a call on netanyahu,
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  • On president trump.
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  • There is more to do.
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  • Assassination attempts don't change that kind of thing.
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  • He's still here.
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  • And as we are taping this, there's a new peace initiative
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  • In the middle east that is profound and is happening.
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  • That's clear.
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  • Thank you for pulling that thread and putting all those
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  • Pieces together.
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  • We're understanding that storyline.
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  • But what about the kind of the code words.
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  • We have a couple minutes left to land the plane on that
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  • Kind of stuff.
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  • >> sunil: i encourage everyone, when you hear a prophetic word,
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  • If you feel like you are hearing from god,
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  • Don't immediately jump to a conclusion.
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  • You have to let it breathe.
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  • For instance, this word by kim clement.
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  • I was there and i heard it.
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  • >> matt: you were playing the drums.
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  • >> sunil: i was playing the drums.
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  • And he's talking about this praying president,
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  • But not a religious one.
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  • He has hot blood.
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  • He's gonna bring the walls of protection on this country.
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  • He will be at the helm for two terms.
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  • Here's what so interesting about that day--
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  • >> matt: that's from '07.
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  • >> sunil: that's from '07.
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  • Now, i want to also throw in this nugget for you to consider.
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  • February 10, 2007, the day he prophesied that,
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  • Something else happened in the news that day.
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  • This man named barack obama announced his candidacy
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  • For president.
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  • So, here you are, if you're in the audience and you're
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  • Hearing this.
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  • And you hear this prophetic word given,
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  • Maybe you were tempted to immediately jump on--
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  • >> matt: apply it to that moment.
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  • >> sunil: apply it to that moment.
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  • So, it takes relationship.
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  • God wants to partner with us.
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  • Don't immediately jump.
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  • Just partner with him.
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  • >> matt: he might actually even have a little bit of a
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  • Red herring
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  • There for you to see if you'll still hang on to his word,
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  • His way, and give voice to nothing else.
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  • Give hearing to anything else but his voice.
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  • That is a very interesting point.
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  • When you hear something, believe it,
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  • Even if it's going to take years to fulfill.
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  • >> sunil: yes.
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  • We saw the brandon biggs prophesy about a bullet flying
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  • By his ear.
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  • We just heard this word by kim clement, two terms.
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  • And there is what i want to say, when you hear a prophetic word
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  • And it's from god, one thing you can definitely rejoice about,
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  • God will not let you die.
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  • God will preserve you.
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  • We saw it in the life of joseph.
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  • He has a prophetic dream.
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  • It didn't matter if he was in the pit or the prison.
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  • It doesn't matter.
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  • He was going to be preserved.
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  • David, a shepherd boy is anointed by samuel,
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  • Chosen to be king.
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  • Well, the next several years was hell.
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  • He's running from king saul.
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  • Armies are chasing him.
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  • He's hiding out in caves.
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  • But he had to be preserved.
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  • >> matt: i heard a preacher say it this way.
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  • You get a prophetic words to keep you encouraged
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  • Until it fulfills.
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  • That you stay true to what he said,
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  • And that he will be truthful and he will make that happen.
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  • I think of tbn, over 53 years.
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  • My mom and dad saw satellites.
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  • They saw this, they saw that.
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  • And we sit here 53 years later still talking about that same
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  • Beautiful voice of the lord.
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  • Thank you, sunil.
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  • We will see you on another episode of "behind the scenes."
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  • We will see you next time.
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  • Bye bye.
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