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Sunil Isaac & Matt Crouch: Courage in the Age of AI | God Still Speaks

January 9, 2026 | 24:55

Sunil Isaac & Matt Crouch: Courage in the Age of AI | God Still Speaks
God Still Speaks is a dynamic monthly series where Matt Crouch and Sunil Isaac explore how God continues to speak in our world today. Each episode unpacks current events with spiritual insight, showing how God often reveals things before they unfold. Inspired by Jesus’ reminder that we live "by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God," the show helps viewers recognize His voice and grow in confidence that they can hear God for themselves.
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Behind the Scenes | Sunil Isaac & Matt Crouch: Courage in the Age of AI | God Still Speaks | January 9, 2026
  • ♪♪ okay. here we go, everyone.
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  • Standby to cue them.
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  • And effect off of seven.
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  • Welcome to behind the scenes.
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  • We are here in dallas, texas.
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  • My guest today, sunil isaac.
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  • We're going to be talking about all things 2026
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  • And ai.
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  • You know what's interesting?
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  • This entire studio, this entire desk, even you are ai.
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  • You're not really here.
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  • This desk isn't here.
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  • Watch. i put my hand right through it.
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  • [bangs desk loudly] oh. it's real.
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  • Okay, here we go.
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  • Ai is coming.
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  • It's almost real.
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  • In fact, as we are talking in the film studio about 100 yards
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  • From us in this building, we are doing all sorts of ai work
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  • In there right now.
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  • In fact, kind of vision bible is underway and ai is upon us.
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  • You can't scroll through any feed in any social media
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  • Platform anywhere without seeing it.
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  • And there's a couple of releases that happened late
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  • Last year in 2025.
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  • One of them that had the word banana in it somewhere,
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  • Changed ai forever.
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  • It is virtually photorealistic and i was
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  • Watching images on a screen just a few minutes ago before
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  • Coming into this studio that you would have thought were
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  • Real actors, really outdoors.
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  • And we are largely bringing the bible to life.
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  • So there is good news for ai.
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  • Absolutely. lots of good news.
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  • But there's a lot of crazy warnings because before, you
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  • Know, the the person has a
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  • Chance to say, whoa, that was ai,
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  • Many times videos have gone viral and somebody has done
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  • Something they actually didn't do.
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  • So we were wondering if these days would ever come.
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  • They're upon us.
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  • Yes. and what i call media clutter,
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  • There's so many headlines out there
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  • As we enter this new year. jobs are going to decrease.
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  • You're going to get fired.
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  • People are concerned
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  • In this day and age, like, is ai going to take my job?
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  • Will my kids with their degree that we spent all this
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  • Money on, is it even going to be worth it anymore?
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  • And there's a lot of fear.
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  • What i like to say, though, is
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  • I don't think god got that memo.
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  • And what we need to do is cut
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  • Through that clutter and find out,
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  • What does god have to say about this?
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  • What is his perspective on what is about to happen, not only in
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  • 2026, but the season and what
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  • This generation is leading towards?
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  • And you know, i'm so happy to hear what tbn is doing.
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  • It's exciting.
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  • You know, i 100% believe if christians don't fill that
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  • Vacuum, that space, somebody else will.
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  • I can tell you god's perspective on ai.
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  • He says the earth is the lord's and the fullness thereof, and
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  • All they that dwell therein.
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  • So god believes that everything on earth, including ai, is a
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  • Part of his kingdom.
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  • And we as christians are supposed to go into those
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  • Different avenues and technologies and all of that,
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  • So that it makes room for the
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  • Church to grow inside of his kingdom.
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  • Okay, so we believe that everything belongs to god, and
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  • We are supposed to be in and
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  • A part and using any and everything.
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  • So awesome.
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  • That's the way god thinks about ai.
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  • And it didn't sneak up on him, by the way.
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  • No, no, it did not.
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  • And what god does as many times he reveals his plan and his
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  • Will to people in advance, and
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  • He wants to do it with every believer.
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  • We have that right.
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  • Jesus said, my sheep will hear my voice.
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  • So we can go to him and hear from him and hear
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  • What's on god's mind.
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  • And one other thing i want to mention, you know, a lot of
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  • Times we're like, where's my source of income coming from?
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  • Where's-- how is god going to bless me?
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  • What are-- what are we going to do about this day and age?
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  • And speaking of secrets, isaiah said, i will give you hidden
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  • Treasures, riches stored in secret places, so that you may
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  • Know that i am the lord.
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  • And so he's got treasures.
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  • It's maybe hidden, maybe a secret for you.
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  • We got to-- we forgot to do something.
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  • We're going to just have to say
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  • Happy new year to everyone viewing.
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  • Yes. it is 2026.
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  • We have a few things to talk about.
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  • Sunil, you've brought
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  • A couple of clips.
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  • Why don't you first of all kind of explain that we want to talk
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  • A little bit about 2026.
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  • We want to talk about ai. how do you want to start?
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  • Yeah. well i want to start by saying i did a deep dive into
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  • Some of the prophetic words
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  • Given in advance regarding this year.
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  • And interestingly to me, the early prophetic words that have
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  • Come out in 2025 were about ai.
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  • I would have thought it would have been about other topics
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  • That are always in the news that cause fear.
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  • But this topic of ai kept coming up, so i feel like this
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  • Is why we should talk about this.
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  • It's on god's mind, and the first prophetic word i'm going
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  • To read was given by,
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  • We're going to show you, was given by a man named allen.
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  • And i want to preface this by saying
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  • In 2019, december, this man had a-- just felt this and he said
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  • It, where i feel in the next year, this is 2019,
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  • In the next year, there's going to be an economic collapse like
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  • The great depression, and the government is going to have to
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  • Step in and give money to people.
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  • As we know, in march 2020, covid pretty much shut down the
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  • World and we got this thing called covid stimulus checks.
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  • And so with that track record, with that in mind, he gave a
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  • Prophetic word on october 31st, 2025, and it's about ai and a
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  • Revolutionary shift that will happen.
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  • But he takes a completely different tone.
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  • It's not something negative, or something we should fear.
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  • It's something we should press into.
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  • Watch this.
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  • Yeah. i, uh, i agree with him.
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  • There is an attitude that i think we as believers
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  • Need to have, which is,
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  • You know, a really robust understanding of the
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  • Sovereignty of god.
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  • You know, he rules and reigns.
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  • He builds up, he pulls down, he's in charge.
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  • And these types of things sometimes get people a little
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  • Bit twisted in their thoughts and whatnot.
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  • But i love what he said.
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  • It is not catching god by surprise.
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  • Nothing does. okay. and so,
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  • All right.
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  • Joshua giles. correct.
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  • In december of last year,
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  • Give us a little heads up on this one.
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  • I saw the story. it's so interesting, matt.
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  • A corporation, a media company, about 1000 employees were fired
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  • On an email that turned out to be generated by ai.
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  • Oh, gosh. oh, my.
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  • So they were they were downsized because of
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  • What ai can do. oh my gosh.
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  • So this is the day and age we're living in.
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  • But this prophetic word
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  • Provides some hope and solutions.
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  • And i think we should engage as christians.
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  • Watch this.
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  • When i think of ai
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  • And i think of a lot of warnings.
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  • Tbn is involved right now
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  • In a documentary on ai. we have been shooting interviews.
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  • We have--
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  • And there's a lot of people-- we found a few people that have
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  • Been involved in what used to be called machine learning.
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  • Uh, and what i didn't understand is that machines and
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  • People that work deep inside of the computer industry have
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  • Really been wanting machines to-- the weird people
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  • Involved deeply in computers have always wanted to see if
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  • They would have a consciousness, wanted to see if
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  • They could take their consciousness and put it into a
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  • Machine, in essence, living forever.
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  • You know, that's kind of the dark, weird side of machine
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  • Learning and what i learned.
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  • And, you know, that dates back to the 50s, you know.
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  • And so we found a couple of real old timers that have been
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  • A part of a lot of the very well known kind of, you know,
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  • Fathers of machine learning.
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  • Now, we call it ai, and it's becoming user friendly.
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  • And the idea that you're either going to have a glass half full
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  • Or half empty kind of attitude is really the way that people
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  • Look at most everything, you know.
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  • And so realistically,
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  • There are a lot of reasons to be careful with ai, and a lot
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  • Of, you know, nonsense that can happen, and a lot of
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  • Very terrible things.
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  • You know, i saw a post that somebody had taken just a
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  • Facebook photo of somebody and
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  • Ai it into a distressed looking situation
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  • In an attempt to be some kind of a process of getting ransom
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  • Money from a family.
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  • You know, that they had just taken your facebook post and
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  • Kind of aid you into the back of a van with a gag.
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  • You know, and so look, there's there's horrible things
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  • That can happen.
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  • Um, but there is also ways of bringing the gospel to people
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  • That we haven't even imagined yet.
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  • And we are bringing the biblical characters to life
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  • Right now in another studio as
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  • We're sitting here doing this production.
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  • What an amazing thing.
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  • I don't know how that all got scheduled at the same time, but
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  • We'll clip in some of that as we're sitting here talking
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  • Because literally i've been looking at, you know,
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  • Characters like moses and and elijah and christ himself and,
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  • And i had the very unusual job the other day of of picking a
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  • Jesus, because ai had generated these actors based upon some
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  • Prompts that one of the producers put in, and there
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  • Were these three actors there, giving a portion of the lines
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  • From the sermon on the mount.
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  • And i had to, you know, pick the actual way that the
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  • Christ figure would look, which was a very odd thing to do,
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  • Trust me. but that is what's going on
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  • Inside of tbn in a christian organization.
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  • And some other organizations are doing things that are
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  • Harmful and and cutting jobs and all those types of odd
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  • Things that are, that are happening.
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  • But ultimately, you know, we have to pick whether we press
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  • Into everything and call it a part of god's kingdom.
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  • Okay? because the earth is the lord's and the fullness
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  • Thereof, and all they that dwell therein.
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  • So we have to jump into these things so that the church can
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  • Expand inside of this world.
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  • And we're doing that literally in another studio as we're
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  • Doing this taping.
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  • Awesome. we are the light of the world.
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  • That's according to jesus.
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  • Have you ever been in a concert, matt?
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  • And they black out the lights and you don't see anything.
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  • They're trying to get an emotional moment and they say,
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  • Take out your cell phone light and turn it on.
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  • I've been in an arena where it's completely dark, and then
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  • All of a sudden somebody in section 200 and something way
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  • At the top turns on their light and you can see it, that one
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  • Little light, you can see it in that darkness.
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  • And then all of a sudden the whole arena turns on their
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  • Lights and it's breathtaking.
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  • And that's what god is wanting us to do.
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  • And you're doing it here at tbn
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  • With all that you just described.
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  • We are the light of the world.
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  • We're shining a light in a dark place.
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  • Yeah.
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  • Erwin mcmanus, tell us about his clip.
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  • So every time we face a situation, it's very easy to
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  • Say, man, what does god want me to do?
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  • How am i going to hear the voice of the lord?
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  • And erwin mcmanus gave us a great tip on how
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  • We can hear from god.
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  • Every one of us can do it today.
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  • Let's watch this.
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  • So what would you say to somebody who says, i want to
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  • Hear the voice of god, but i don't know how to hear
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  • The voice of god?
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  • We try to control the conversation between us and
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  • God, rather than allow god to
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  • Actually lead that conversation.
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  • And even with the frequencies, i said, a lot of
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  • Times we want god to be a healer when what it really he
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  • Needs for us to be is a challenger.
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  • And sometimes we want god to be a motivator.
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  • But what we really need is for god to be a commander.
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  • Wow. and so what happens sometimes is when god is
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  • Speaking to us in a particular frequency, and we insist on
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  • Only hearing a different
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  • Frequency, god seems silent to us.
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  • That's why the bible to me is so important.
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  • Yeah. my understanding of the scriptures is, you know,
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  • The the truths in the scriptures will change your
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  • Life, but will really change your life is hearing god's
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  • Voice through the scriptures, because then you can identify
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  • His voice when you don't have the scriptures.
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  • And if you're not listening to god's voice in what he's spoken
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  • To you in the word, you're not going to be able to hear his
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  • Voice when he's speaking to you in the world.
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  • Wow. and so that-- i think the bible actually tunes us in to
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  • Hearing god's voice.
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  • Thank you, erwin and sheila, because we're trying to
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  • Ultimately have the conversation with the lord
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  • Instead of just letting him tell us what's going on.
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  • Okay. uh, happy new year. it's 2026.
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  • This is behind the scenes.
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  • We'll be back in just a minute.
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  • Back a few years ago, would we have ever thought, you know,
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  • When we were kind of think of this--
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  • I was married in 1985.
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  • Never thought the lord would
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  • Tarry long enough to get married.
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  • I've been married 40 years.
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  • We've welcomed a new grandbaby into our world, and it is 2026,
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  • And we're talking about something that my parents could
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  • Have never imagined.
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  • Artificial intelligence.
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  • It is to a level that we are at tbn even creating a vision
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  • Bible right now, and
  • 00:16:30.345 --> 00:16:32.681
  • Unbelievable quality at this point.
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  • And i'm going to say in the last few months of 2025,
  • 00:16:35.918 --> 00:16:41.390
  • We saw some of the largest increases in cinematic level ai
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  • Generation that has happened ever.
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  • And, uh, it's only advancing, and we're thrilled about that.
  • 00:16:50.766 --> 00:16:55.304
  • Charles shamp, what do we have to say about him?
  • 00:16:55.304 --> 00:16:57.172
  • Charlie shamp gave a prophetic word regarding the year 2026,
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  • And it's a promise that we all can lean into.
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  • Watch this.
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  • I had a friend, mason millikan, a young prophetic friend, call
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  • And said that he saw for 2026
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  • Almost-- it was a, it was a real simple little thing,
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  • And it was kind of fun.
  • 00:17:57.366 --> 00:17:59.401
  • He said, you know, at the end of the day, when you get into
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  • The house and and dinner's not quite ready.
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  • And you're not--
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  • And you kind of collapse into a chair and you kind of go, ah,
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  • Kind of one of those big
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  • Exhales like something has been accomplished.
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  • Let's call it all of us that feel like something big
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  • Was going on in the year 2025
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  • That we maybe endured something big.
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  • And 2026 was this moment of exhale, like there was a
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  • Finished work that god was going to be able-- that was
  • 00:18:32.100 --> 00:18:35.637
  • Something that came to laurie and i.
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  • And i know that it means a lot to a lot of people.
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  • Charles stanley. what does he have to say?
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  • Charles stanley, it's actually a clip that you and laurie did
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  • With charles, and he gave this word that, uh, actually really
  • 00:18:46.048 --> 00:18:50.552
  • Affected my life when i heard it years ago.
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  • And i'm bringing it back here.
  • 00:18:52.387 --> 00:18:53.755
  • But it's basically the importance of obeying god.
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  • When you feel like you hear something like what you're
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  • Describing now, what if-- it's easy to just stay on the
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  • Sidelines and not act.
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  • Not press in.
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  • Not press in. exactly.
  • 00:19:04.600 --> 00:19:06.301
  • But charles stanley is saying, obey. when god
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  • Says something, obey.
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  • Love this.
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  • My grandfather said it made this statement to me
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  • When i visited him years and years ago.
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  • I was about 16, and we talked for about a week, and i just
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  • Went to listen to him when i walked away.
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  • That's the message i got,
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  • Obey god, leave all the consequences to him.
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  • He didn't say it exactly like that.
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  • I think he said, obey god.
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  • And if god tells you to run your head
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  • Through a brick wall, you head there.
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  • And when you get there, he'll make a way for it.
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  • That's what he told me.
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  • But on my way home i thought, what does that mean,
  • 00:19:50.012 --> 00:19:53.749
  • Obey god and leave all the consequences to him?
  • 00:19:53.749 --> 00:19:56.018
  • Because if you think about this, if-- not if,
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  • But since god is who he is, absolute control of all things,
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  • Obey him.
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  • There's no way to lose.
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  • It doesn't mean you won't hurt.
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  • Doesn't mean you won't suffer.
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  • It doesn't mean a lot of things that people think about.
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  • But i can say in these
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  • 72 years or whatever, since i was saved,
  • 00:20:19.207 --> 00:20:23.412
  • Um, he has never failed me.
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  • Isn't that beautiful?
  • 00:20:28.317 --> 00:20:29.584
  • That was the last interview that laurie and i
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  • Ever did with charles stanley.
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  • And i think laurie sat there and cried the whole time.
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  • It was just such a beautiful thing.
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  • And when i see him, that statement has now reverberated
  • 00:20:39.027 --> 00:20:45.067
  • In the matthew crouch family.
  • 00:20:45.067 --> 00:20:48.403
  • He transferred that to us.
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  • Obey god, leave all the consequences to him.
  • 00:20:50.339 --> 00:20:54.443
  • And what a beautiful word that was.
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  • Great. good pick. joshua giles.
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  • Joshua giles, regarding the year 2026.
  • 00:20:58.714 --> 00:21:02.084
  • He's saying that god wants to fine tune our hearing.
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  • Love that. let's watch this.
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  • I agree with that.
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  • And it was rick warren sitting down with laurie and i one time
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  • That even talked about a new way to think about mountains,
  • 00:22:08.450 --> 00:22:13.088
  • As it were, and valley experiences.
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  • Rick put a really interesting
  • 00:22:15.123 --> 00:22:17.459
  • Twist on it for 2026, in my opinion.
  • 00:22:17.459 --> 00:22:20.429
  • Watch this.
  • 00:22:20.429 --> 00:22:21.430
  • Kay got cancer right after i wrote this book.
  • 00:22:21.430 --> 00:22:26.134
  • And honestly, in the early years when this book was
  • 00:22:26.134 --> 00:22:29.771
  • Selling a million copies every other month, um, honestly, the
  • 00:22:29.771 --> 00:22:35.744
  • Last thing i was thinking of is, oh, this is great.
  • 00:22:35.744 --> 00:22:38.146
  • I'm on the cover of time magazine.
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  • I'm thinking i'm holding the bedpan while my wife throws up
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  • And her hair is falling out.
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  • I'm going, am i going to be alone with three kids?
  • 00:22:45.086 --> 00:22:49.591
  • And kay wrote a book
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  • One time called choose joy, and on it, it's a
  • 00:22:51.693 --> 00:22:56.164
  • Pair of railroad tracks. i used to think that we had good times
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  • And bad times, and that life was like mountains and valleys.
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  • Okay, you have high
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  • Mountaintops and you have low valleys.
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  • But the truth is, life is more like a pair of railroad tracks
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  • Where you get both at the same time.
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  • My goodness.
  • 00:23:12.447 --> 00:23:13.315
  • The good and the bad are constantly.
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  • And no matter how good things are in your life, there's
  • 00:23:15.550 --> 00:23:19.120
  • Always something bad you got to be working on, okay?
  • 00:23:19.120 --> 00:23:21.823
  • And no matter how bad things are in your life, there's
  • 00:23:21.823 --> 00:23:24.759
  • Always something you can be thankful for,
  • 00:23:24.759 --> 00:23:26.495
  • You can be grateful for.
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  • I love that that that largely changed the way i think about
  • 00:23:28.930 --> 00:23:33.635
  • A lot of things.
  • 00:23:33.635 --> 00:23:34.903
  • That was really, you know, it's one thing to watch the clip,
  • 00:23:34.903 --> 00:23:37.739
  • But when he's sitting across from you kind of pointing at
  • 00:23:37.739 --> 00:23:40.208
  • You, and that was a that was really a game changer for the
  • 00:23:40.208 --> 00:23:45.046
  • Way that i think about, because i can sit there and look at
  • 00:23:45.046 --> 00:23:47.782
  • Something bad that happened in 2025, and then you can sit
  • 00:23:47.782 --> 00:23:51.319
  • There and go, but wait a second.
  • 00:23:51.319 --> 00:23:52.687
  • At the same time that was happening, this unbelievably
  • 00:23:52.687 --> 00:23:55.957
  • Good thing was happening.
  • 00:23:55.957 --> 00:23:57.792
  • And so we have to, as it were,
  • 00:23:57.792 --> 00:23:59.928
  • Like rick said, choose joy.
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  • Wrap this segment up.
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  • Um, and, uh, happy new year.
  • 00:24:05.133 --> 00:24:08.036
  • Wrap it up.
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  • As we navigate 2026, i think,
  • 00:24:09.104 --> 00:24:12.340
  • As rick said, it's all about perspective.
  • 00:24:12.340 --> 00:24:15.110
  • So let's put ourselves in the, uh, the spies who went into
  • 00:24:15.110 --> 00:24:19.481
  • Jericho to spy on jericho and spy on the promised land.
  • 00:24:19.481 --> 00:24:23.351
  • They saw great things like grapes, and they saw giants.
  • 00:24:23.351 --> 00:24:27.389
  • And how they responded dictated their experience.
  • 00:24:27.389 --> 00:24:31.092
  • So i'm encouraging every one of you when you experience
  • 00:24:31.092 --> 00:24:34.195
  • Mountaintops and when you experience valleys, choose the
  • 00:24:34.195 --> 00:24:37.566
  • Right perspective.
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  • Believe in god and press in.
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  • 2026, choose joy.
  • 00:24:40.669 --> 00:24:42.370
  • Uh, the year of exhale.
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  • Take that. run with it.
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  • We'll see you next time. bye.
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  • ♪♪
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