Better Together

Align Your Heart with God - Episode 1106

October 20, 2025 | S7 E1106 | 52:34

The Psalms remind us to bring our honest worship before a God who meets us at our lowest and messiest moments. Pursuing God's heart realigns our plans with His purpose and allows us to find healing, direction, and true rest. | TBN Prayer Line: 714-731-1000

#Peace #Healing #Restoration #Faith #Love #Trials-HardTimes #WordofGod #Suffering #Worship #Passion #VoiceofGod #PresenceofGod #Youth

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Better Together | Align Your Heart with God - Episode 1106 | October 20, 2025

Laurie crouch: lord, i will seek your face.
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You know, pursuing the heart of god changes everything.
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He realigns our desires, and he helps us see
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The world through his eyes.
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Come on, let's talk about it.
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[music]
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Kalley heiligenthal: so i was 22 years old, and i'm fresh out of
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My 4-year degree, liberal arts university with my degree in
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Bible and theology, and i'm ready to change the world.
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I'm like, man, i got the--i got it on my resume, i've learned
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All the things, i've studied hard, and that's all amazing,
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And that's all good.
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And i said, god, put me anywhere, i'll do anything,
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Not youth ministry.
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Laurie: anything?
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Kalley: anything.
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Where do i end up?
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With some high schoolers.
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And so there i am, and i have been loving the lord with
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My mind.
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I have kind of collected, and it's beautiful and important to
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Do so.
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But i'd kind of been living up there, and all of a sudden i'm
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With these teenagers.
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And i was so confronted by so many things, so much pizza, so,
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You know, so many things.
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But that is the first time that i remember.
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I've always loved jesus, grew up loving jesus, grew up knowing
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Jesus, but through those kids was the first time i remember
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Learning how much he loved me.
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And here's how, there was this group of kids that they, would
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Have been seen as troublemakers, addicted, there was a lot kind
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Of going on, and they're pretty wayward, and the holy spirit
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Grabbed ahold of them, caught their hearts, caught
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Their hearts.
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And i'm overseeing this youth group, and i'm, you know, i have
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All the right things that i've learned, and i watched this
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Whole youth group go from like please memorize the bible,
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Please, please.
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I want your parents to like me.
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Please, just memorize the scripture.
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I'll give you a gold star, to they were captured by the heart
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Of the lord.
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And i mean it's like they're dancing, but not in the
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Right ways.
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They're worshiping but not in the right, clean ways, because
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They had just stepped out of something else, and they had
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Encountered the real living god.
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And so they loved like this hardcore music before, well,
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They didn't change into this polished perfect, they're like
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Dancing, they're hardcore dancing in worship, like mosh
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Pit, you know what i'm saying?
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Crazy, and i'm sitting here, and i'm like this is breaking all
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My boxes.
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This is confronting all the things, because here i've
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Studied, and i know and i'm glad i did that, but i have this
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Thing in me that wants to be tidy and look pulled together,
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And i wanna look credible to everybody, and i wanna have it
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All together.
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And i'm sitting and i'm watching these kids with a heart given
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Over to jesus, but what was shocking was not even their
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Response, but it was watching the affection of the father over
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It, how close he would come, the nearness, the delight that i
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Felt in the room when these kids, they're lit on fire.
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I mean, they--and it's like not the polite fire.
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When you think about being on fire, this is not a polite, you
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Know, sit tidy, and we're pious, and we were polished,
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Pulled together.
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You're burning, that looks like something.
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And they were set on fire.
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But what i watched was the lord's delight in their
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Offering, and i had never known him like that.
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I had never known that that's an offering that he would want.
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I had never known that you could come that way, and he would say
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That's it, that's what i want.
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Amidst so many things that were messy, their hearts were
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Captured by him, and his heart was captured by them, and it
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Confronted the religious things in me that wanted to have
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Everything together.
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It confronted a resume that said the right things but didn't know
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About that kind of love, and it began, i began this kind of
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Unraveling myself of.
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Well, if you like this, what could you like about me?
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What could there be on the inside?
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If i were to burn, what would that look like?
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And what would you think about that?
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And here, these 16-, 17-year-old kids paved a way for me to be
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Known by the lord, to find him in his passion.
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Sheila walsh: i remember, i mean, there's so many moments in
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Life where you think where god spoke to me here and god spoke
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To me there, but one of the most significant ones was when i was
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Quite young.
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I was probably about 16 years old, and in our little town in
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Scotland, they were showing a movie of the life of jesus.
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And so all my sunday school class and i, we all went, and i
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Remember the crucifixion scene had such an impact on me,
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Because, you know, it followed the beautiful life of jesus and
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Everything he did.
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And at the end of the movie, all my friends got up and went off.
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They all went to get a burger or something, and i couldn't move.
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I stayed there.
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I stayed there for a long time.
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And i remember thinking, lord, if you loved me so much that you
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Were willing to do that, then i just want to say to you right
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Now, even though i've no idea what it'll look like, i'm all in
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For the rest of my life, whatever you want me to do,
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I'm all in.
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God lit a flame in my heart that night that never went out.
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Kalley: there was one time the lord told me, kalley, you,
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Because as i began to be set free and realize you really just
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Want me.
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You really just want the real me, the true me, and i just
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Really want the true you, not the the you that i've heard from
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Everybody else, but like i really wanna know you.
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I really wanna know what moves your heart.
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I really wanna know like today, where are you?
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What are you looking at?
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What's burning on your heart?
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And i want to know that, because you've come close to mine.
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And he told me, he told me, kalley, do you know that you
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Will never out-passion me?
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Even in all of your passion and all of your zeal in those
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Moments where it's like, oh, you dance before the lord, even
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Though you look ridiculous, because i have to show you.
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It has to come out some way.
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Love has to come out passion.
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Real passion needs to be expressed, it demands it.
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But what he told me in that moment is what i saw with those
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High schoolers, where he says you can be as wild and in love
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As you are, but you will never out-passion me.
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Go ahead and try.
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You'll never out-passion me.
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And i've found that to be true.
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I've known that to be true from him.
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And i look and there's so much biblical backing for this.
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There is so much.
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I mean, we have a david who danced before the lord because
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The presence of god, the ark of the covenant was brought back
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Home among the people, and he couldn't contain himself.
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Among the mocking voices of his wife, you know.
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You have the woman, we have mary with her alabaster jar, her most
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Prized possession, spilling it out before jesus, because
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There's not another one we're saving it up for.
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There's no one else, there's no other feet that i wanna spend
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It on.
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There's no one else i wanna bring these tears before.
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It is all over in the word, but somehow i missed it.
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Somehow i neutered it, i polished it, i made it look
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Clean and tidy until i saw this offering of somebody else who is
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Willing to just pour it out in the way that david did and the
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Way that mary did.
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And it compelled me to find my own alabaster jar, to approach
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The presence of god with joy and gladness.
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And these are the words of david, come before him with
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Singing, dance, rejoice, play your instruments.
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It's wild, not for a show, not for a hype, not for a concert's
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Sake, but because i've seen the passionate heart of the lord
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For me.
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What else could we do but respond in turn to him?
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So i'm wondering, is your journey, has there ever been the
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Polished, like i think i supposed to have it all together
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And have it right?
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And even as a woman, there's this range of maybe expression
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That's appropriate, look appropriate.
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Has the lord ever gone in and messed that up?
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Laurie: shaken it up?
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Kalley: what's that been like?
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Faith cho: yeah, i mean, i love that story, and isn't it so
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Funny how we have to really come to the end of ourselves in order
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To go deeper into our revelation of who he is?
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I think sometimes we are so eager to have him in our
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Neat box.
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Lord, just come in a way that is comfortable for me, in a way
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That makes sense.
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Come neatly packaged as a sunday service revelation.
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Come as an upgrade at my work, come as a lovely surprise.
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But sometimes he comes as an interruption, sometimes he comes
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As bad news, right?
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Sometimes he comes in different ways, in ways that in a way
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Challenge us to lay down our control and what we believe is
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The box that he belongs in.
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Kalley: the fruit of a passionate pursuit of god is his
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Presence, and when we come to realize there's no other reward,
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There's no other treasure, there's no other prize, it is
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Him, this is where all fulfillment comes from.
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This is where everything that i need is satisfied in
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His presence.
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It says in his presence is fullness of joy.
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In his presence i find peace, i find hope, i find the things
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That i'm longing for.
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So the fruit of pursuing god with passion with our whole
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Heart is we cry out to god, he answers us, and he comes with
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His nearness.
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His nearness contains all that we need.
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Faith: when i was going into my early years of christian faith,
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I mean, i tried to be as by the book as possible right?
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And i had it all planned out.
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I was thinking, okay, i'm gonna be a part of mission work, i'm
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Gonna serve the church in this capacity, i'm gonna become a
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Lawyer, and i'm gonna have good money, a stable job, a stable
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Life, and everything's gonna be great, and then at 19 years old,
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I got hospitalized right after my freshman year of college.
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And i mean, we went through blood panel after blood panel,
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And then the doctors were like we don't know what's wrong
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With her.
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But everything is wrong with her, but we don't know what's
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Wrong with her.
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And i mean, i stayed in the hospital for about a month, and
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Eventually they had to transfer me to mayo clinic to get me to
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More specialists.
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And finally it all came down to i had this really rare
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Autoimmune disease, and they're like and you have no cure.
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There's no cure for it.
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And at this point in my life, i went from being a straight a
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Student in college with aspirations, a plan of how god
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Should use me, and now i was bedridden.
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I was getting a fever of 104, 105 every night.
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I had inflammation all over my body.
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I couldn't open my jaws.
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I couldn't speak.
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I couldn't even sit up, because my spine had inflammation and
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My knees.
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And i was just lying there.
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And also, i just couldn't sleep.
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And i heard the diagnosis, and i heard what it will end up with,
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Which is basically we don't know how you're going to end up.
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You could end up either dying early, or you'll be all right,
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And you're just gonna have to be on steroids for the rest of your
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Life, or so on.
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It was so open-ended, but i remember every night i started
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To get dreams of preaching and doing ministry, and, you know,
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Bible verses would come up in my dreams, but every time i wake
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Up, i would still be in pain, you know?
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And i just didn't understand, because we did everything by
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The book.
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I mean, people would pray, fast, i would give them a sacrifice of
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Praise and thanks, and i did everything that i was taught to
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Do during hardship, and i just didn't understand why it
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Wasn't working.
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In my mind, still at that time, god wasn't a father that wanted
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My highest good, he was a vending machine, and as long as
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I put in the right things, he should be giving me the right
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Reactions and the right results.
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I mean, i had somebody even pray over me like the prophets of old
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And put her body over me and try to resurrect me from the bed,
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And it just wasn't working.
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And i remember one afternoon i was reading the book of luke,
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And luke was a doctor, and i had a sore spot for doctors at
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That point.
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And you know, the first couple stories are there's so
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Many healings.
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And i just started to get really upset.
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Like, lord, what did they have that i don't?
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You know, like, he just no longer made sense.
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And i think that's what our wilderness season is.
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It's god just stops making sense, and we think it's because
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He's worse than we think, but actually it's always he's better
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Than we think.
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He's mysterious because he's so big, he's so infinite, he's
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So beyond.
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And i was like, i don't understand.
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Why aren't you healing me?
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Why aren't you fixing my problem?
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And you know, and i believe that god heals, and you know,
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I believe that every good thing comes from the lord, but the one
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Thing i did hear at that moment was, faith, you have just been
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Seeking my hands for your-- for the entirety of your
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Faith journey.
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You've been seeking the things of my hands, but when will you
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Start seeking my face, you know?
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And it was just mysterious, just kind of like, what?
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Just kind of how your story, you're just like i don't get it.
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Like what is this?
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What are you trying to show me?
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And it didn't come for me as a wave of feeling.
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You know, it just came as just this revelation.
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Wow, i think i've been really settling with a very religious
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Faith journey by just kind of treating this as a
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Transactional thing.
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And it took me being bedridden, unable to speak, unable to move,
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To realize, oh, i think i don't really know god.
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Like i know what he can do, but i don't know who he is.
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I don't know what he likes.
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I don't know what makes him mad.
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I don't know what he thinks.
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I don't know his opinions.
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I don't know god.
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It took me that moment to realize that.
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I mean, god miraculously healed me in a month, but you know,
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During those weeks, that really challenged me with this
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Revelation that i don't think i would have gotten if i just had
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Everything my way, and that aligned me to his presence.
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Amie dockery: having a relationship with god is so much
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Different than just knowledge of god.
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It would be the same as if you hear about someone, but then you
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Get to know them for yourself.
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Knowledge is not three dimensional, but knowing god
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Means intimately experiencing his presence and seeing his ways
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And his will and his word come alive in you.
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It's a relationship, it's not religion, it's not a list of
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Things to do or not to do.
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God is so much more than that.
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The creator of the universe wants a relationship with us,
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And i think that's an important invitation that we should never
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Pass up on.
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I don't wanna just know him because i read something about
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Him, but i wanna experience him for myself.
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He's a living god that each of us have an invitation and
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Opportunity to encounter.
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Faith: we want to hear from you.
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Amie: connect with us on social media to ask a question or share
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A prayer request.
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Laurie: let's build one another up and get better together.
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Laurie: let's build one another up and get better together.
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Amie: well, you're not alone, because there are so many right
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Now that would consider themselves followers of christ
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Who are going through deconstruction, right?
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So, whatever they've been handed or inherited, or whatever they
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Thought they believed when they encounter wilderness or trial,
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They are laying it all back out, and i think that's good if you
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Understand the deconstruction really takes place in yourself.
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There are things about god you aren't gonna move.
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You can take apart what you've learned and where you got it
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From, but he's unchanging, but i think what we see and especially
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Young people that really struggle with this, defining
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God, and that passion is we see this opportunity that comes.
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You're talking about how what does god really want?
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What kind of sacrifice does he really want?
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In this tidy version is we get this idea, and this is where i
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Think deconstruction is good, we get this idea that if it's
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Perfect sacrifice, and we have edited it, well, god doesn't
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Want an edited version of us, he doesn't want edited worship.
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That's what i think he loves so much about david and why he said
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He's a man after my heart.
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That doesn't mean he's a man chasing my heart.
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In the hebrew it's actually a pattern, he's cut out of the
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Same pattern, which means he's humble he's open, he's
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Vulnerable, right?
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To what god's will is, because i think when we wanna present our
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Worship or our faith or our belief, we want it to be wrapped
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In this beautiful bow.
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That's not what god's looking for.
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He's looking for vulnerability, he's looking for a place for
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Himself in our story, in our lives, and if we bring him this
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Complete, perfect package every time, there's no room for him.
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Where's the room for faith, right?
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Faith: the reason why david is called a man after god's own
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Heart is because no matter what he was going through, he always
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Prioritized god's desires, will, and agenda before his own.
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If you look throughout his life that's recorded in first and
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Second samuel, you'll see that david actually inquired of the
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Lord at least seven times.
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Every time he was going through something, every time he needed
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Wisdom, he would take a moment to genuinely inquire of god.
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And this lifestyle of depending on god, his perspective, his
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Wisdom, his will, and his way is what really made david a man
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After god's own heart.
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Laurie: i love that.
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You know, i always think about the scripture that god is
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Looking to and fro throughout the earth, looking for someone
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To show himself faithful to.
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God has everything, he owns everything, the only thing he
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Doesn't have is what we don't give him.
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So if we don't give him our worship, if we don't give him
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Our praise and our passion, that's him experiencing us.
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You know, we talk so much about experiencing god.
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God wants to experience us.
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I made you, i created you, and so i wanna do all these
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Beautiful things on the inside of you, and david, you know,
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I mean he's laying before god in pain, you know, and there is
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Nothing--we all have our moments of sucking
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Carpet, right?
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Of just, okay, god, i need you more than i think i've ever
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Needed you right now.
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And i know you're gonna show yourself faithful, because that
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Is who you are.
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But right now i love you so much, but you gotta help me,
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You know?
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And those desperate moments and trusting god in those moments is
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The best time.
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I love the story that you told just before we started.
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Tell that story real quick.
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Amie: yeah, well, beautiful friend and advisor bishop joseph
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Garlington told us this story once, and it just stuck with me,
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But he said that some missionaries were going to
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Smuggle bibles into china, because the underground church
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Needed them, and they had suitcases full, so when they
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Were--they got their luggage, when they're going through
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Customs they knew that there's penalty of of being imprisoned
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In a country that is not your friend.
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And so when they saw the group in front of them get their
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Luggage searched, panic struck the group, and they ended up
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Making it through customs not having anything checked, and on
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The other side they gathered up sort of right outside the
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Environment of the airport, and when they gathered up, they
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Began to all sing together "great is thy faithfulness," and
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The lord spoke to the leader of the group and said right song,
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Wrong side of the border.
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Because the worship, it doesn't cost you anything here when
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You've seen me bring it to fulfillment to protect you, but
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It costs you something when you still don't know the resolution
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Of my faithfulness.
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Laurie: so i love that so much, and the whole thing was seeking
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God's hand instead of his face.
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What does that mean?
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What does that seeing a side of god that only, i think,
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Suffering and hard times lets us see those beautiful faces of
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God, those facets of god that i would have never gotten if
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Everything was just going peachy for me all the time.
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It's those times of [gasping] what do we do?
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God help us get through this.
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We have that moment right then to seek his face, to know god in
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All the beautiful ways that he is, and this is my chance right
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Now before i have that break through, before that trial is
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Over, before i get that good you're in remission, before i
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Get the good diag--whatever it is in our life, before i get the
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Good news right now, god, i wanna get out of every single
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Moment of what you're saying, what you're teaching me, what
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You're showing me, show me your face now.
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Laurie: i almost look forward for trials and testings of our
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Faith, because i told my husband not too long ago, i said i think
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We're gonna get addicted to this.
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We're gonna get addicted to this feeling where you just dig in
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Your heels, you align your heart with god, you say i am going to
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Trust, and i am going to believe with everything on the inside of
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Me, and that makes you persevere, that makes you
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Steadfast, that makes you hold on, that means that when there's
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Adversity, man, you're trained for it, it's okay, bring it on,
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I'm ready.
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In my core of my heart, this is who i am because this is who god
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Says he is.
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And that faith and that maintaining what you believe and
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Who god said he is, i will never let that go.
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Sheila: the sacrifice of praise.
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That's when you sing the song, before the answer, before you
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Cross the border.
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That's why i love when you were talking, kalley, about mary
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Pouring out the alabaster, because that was basically that
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Was her, you know, retirement.
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I mean that's like, that was worth a lot.
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This is my future, pouring it out was her way of saying, no,
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Jesus, you're my future, you know?
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I can pour all this out because you're my future.
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I saw such a sweet picture of that when i was speaking
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Somewhere at a conference, and our son christian was with me,
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And he was little at the time, he was probably like four, and
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My mother-in-law was traveling with us so that she could take
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Him back to the hotel and get him bathed and into bed.
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And we'd had a big party backstage for the one of the
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Lighting guys.
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It was his birthday, and then we had this huge chocolate cake,
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And christian had just dived.
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I mean, he just entered into the spirit of the cake, and i had on
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A cream suit that night, which i remember, because i never wore
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It again, and i'm about to go on the platform, and i suddenly
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Hear this voice behind me saying, "mum! mummy!"
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And i turned round and he just wanted one more hug, and i got
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Down on my knees, and i knew what was gonna happen when he
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Ran up and he threw his little sticky hands around my neck and
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His face, and i got frosting in my hair and in my suit, but it
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Was really intentional, because i wanted to say to christian,
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Don't clean yourself up to come to your mom, because you don't
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Have to clean yourself up to come to your father.
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Because i never understood that when i was a little girl.
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I always thought i had to get it right so that god would think,
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No, well, everybody here is messing up, but at least
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Sheila's getting it all right.
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So if you think that's who god is, then when your life falls
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Apart or something doesn't go right, you think you just--that
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Deal no longer works.
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Faith: if you're somebody that feels like you are too messy for
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God, let me tell you, join the club.
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God is the pro at embracing us in our mess.
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If you look throughout scripture, name me a person that
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Was just absolutely perfect without flaw at all.
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And you know what?
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If no flaw was recorded, that doesn't mean that it wasn't
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Even there.
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History has shown us, biblical history has shown us that god
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Has a way of constantly pursuing us, loving us, wanting us
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Despite what we bring to the table, which is why we're saved
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By grace and not by action.
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And so if you feel messy today, it's an opportunity to welcome
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His grace.
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Sheila: and i think that's what i love about what you said
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About david.
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It was because he brought everything.
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I mean, everything.
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Amie: yes, he did, well, and the thing is when we wanna edit our
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Worship, we take out the parts where we made mistakes, we edit
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Out, and the brokenness is where the authority comes.
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That's where we get anointing from is in those broken places.
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I really had to think about what is the difference between god's
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Face and his hands?
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And it stunned me in the idea that a face is intimate, hands
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Are just transactional, like the vending machine.
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It's like i just need somebody to do it, any pair of hands will
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Work, but when you know your mother's face, you know your
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Father's face, your children's faces intimately, and what
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Happens when you know someone's face really intimately?
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Then you know when they raise an eyebrow what they're saying
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Without opening their mouth.
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The more we get to know god intimately, the more we hear him
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In everything, and we know he's present even when we're not
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Getting the miracle from his hand.
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We know he's there.
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And i feel like that's the part that i love so much about the
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Authentic heart for delighting yourself in the lord and saying,
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God, i really just wanna know you, forget my list, my
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Christmas list, all that, i'm not looking, you're not santa
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Claus, you are creative of the universe, you could do all of
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This for me, but you haven't.
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And maybe it's not yet.
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I don't know, but right now all i wanna know is you, and if i
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Reveal myself to you, you'll reveal yourself to me.
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So i don't want to hide.
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Kalley: i think about like the life of david, too, i'm like
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What got him to these lavish songs where it's like talk about
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Like there's some stuff in there.
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I'm like this is there's there's some intensity happening in here
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Alongside the--i mean, he is a life laid out, it's all out
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There, and i'm like what got him?
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Because i'm hearing some of our backstories of how we kind of
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Got where we did, and i think there's a lot about david's life
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That brought him to this point, but the one that stands out is
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Like, you know, jesse comes out, and samuel's looking for a king.
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He's like are all your sons here?
00:29:26.856 --> 00:29:28.757
He's like, yeah.
00:29:28.757 --> 00:29:30.292
Well, it's none of these.
00:29:30.292 --> 00:29:31.660
Is there anyone else?
00:29:31.660 --> 00:29:32.995
David was out on a field, forgotten about, unseen.
00:29:32.995 --> 00:29:36.665
He knows he's disqualified.
00:29:36.665 --> 00:29:38.634
His own family forgot about him or just overlooked, probably,
00:29:38.634 --> 00:29:43.906
Yeah, probably not a forget, insignificant.
00:29:43.906 --> 00:29:47.109
He's out in the field, but the eyes of the lord were on him
00:29:47.109 --> 00:29:52.214
Just in the field.
00:29:52.214 --> 00:29:53.549
It's one thing if you're in a palace, you're operating, you're
00:29:53.549 --> 00:29:55.551
Doing all, you're making the right decrees, you know, you've
00:29:55.551 --> 00:29:58.053
Been bred from little, you know, that's one thing, but i think he
00:29:58.053 --> 00:30:02.224
Was plucked from such a disqualified--his family
00:30:02.224 --> 00:30:06.295
Neglected him.
00:30:06.295 --> 00:30:07.630
They didn't think he could, you know?
00:30:07.630 --> 00:30:09.498
They didn't call for his name, but the lord saw him.
00:30:09.498 --> 00:30:12.701
Do you know what i'm saying?
00:30:12.701 --> 00:30:14.036
And i think he had a really early introduction to this god
00:30:14.036 --> 00:30:17.439
That's looking for something different than we do.
00:30:17.439 --> 00:30:20.976
We gravitate toward these things that we evaluate as like those
00:30:20.976 --> 00:30:24.113
Are qualifiers.
00:30:24.113 --> 00:30:25.481
Oh, god can use that.
00:30:25.481 --> 00:30:26.815
Oh, that's mighty, that's what he's gonna want to use, that
00:30:26.815 --> 00:30:30.185
Kind of person.
00:30:30.185 --> 00:30:31.520
David knew i am not qualified.
00:30:31.520 --> 00:30:33.455
I'm left alone out in the field, but the lord knew him and called
00:30:33.455 --> 00:30:38.394
Him out from that place, and i wonder if that just established
00:30:38.394 --> 00:30:41.897
Like, well, if i was good enough there on the field, i'm gonna
00:30:41.897 --> 00:30:44.633
Continue to be who i am because you see me.
00:30:44.633 --> 00:30:48.771
You know, when you have this like repentance song, right?
00:30:48.771 --> 00:30:52.107
Of psalm 51, and it's, "behold, you delight in truth in the
00:30:52.107 --> 00:30:56.178
Inward being, and you teach me wisdom and the secret heart."
00:30:56.178 --> 00:31:00.049
And then we have, you know, for you don't delight in sacrifice,
00:31:00.049 --> 00:31:03.752
All the things together, the polish, the pulled together, the
00:31:03.752 --> 00:31:06.822
Resumes, it's all fine, but he doesn't delight in it.
00:31:06.822 --> 00:31:11.160
So if i want to be after his heart, this matters.
00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:13.929
What does he delight in?
00:31:13.929 --> 00:31:15.297
You're not pleased in a burnt offering, the sacrifices of god
00:31:15.297 --> 00:31:18.033
Are a broken spirit, a broken and contrite, laid-open heart
00:31:18.033 --> 00:31:23.572
You will not despise.
00:31:23.572 --> 00:31:25.240
And i think the way that god found him is the way that he
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:28.744
Sustained him in this honesty all the way.
00:31:28.744 --> 00:31:31.814
How do we get to songs like this?
00:31:31.814 --> 00:31:33.916
We find the god who knows you in the field, who knows you when
00:31:33.916 --> 00:31:37.486
You're laid in bed at night.
00:31:37.486 --> 00:31:39.188
You can't move, you can't sleep, and there he is.
00:31:39.188 --> 00:31:42.858
The god who finds you in the depth of the valley of the
00:31:42.858 --> 00:31:46.161
Shadow of death, and there's no qual--you can't even stand up,
00:31:46.161 --> 00:31:49.665
You can't breathe, and i found him there, why?
00:31:49.665 --> 00:31:53.035
Because he found me, he knows me, and i just think about
00:31:53.035 --> 00:31:57.139
David, and i'm like what a beautiful way that god would
00:31:57.139 --> 00:32:00.376
Initiate the heart of the king by showing him what his heart
00:32:00.376 --> 00:32:05.347
Is like.
00:32:05.347 --> 00:32:07.016
Sheila: one of the greatest adventures i think you and i are
00:32:07.016 --> 00:32:09.551
Invited to in life is to really pursue god.
00:32:09.551 --> 00:32:13.655
You know, i think we--i don't think we understand how deeply
00:32:13.655 --> 00:32:16.792
God wants to know us and to be intimate with us, that we share
00:32:16.792 --> 00:32:22.331
Our whole lives and our whole heart with him and our thoughts.
00:32:22.331 --> 00:32:25.601
And it's been, i have to say, it's been the greatest discovery
00:32:25.601 --> 00:32:28.670
In my christian life, understanding, that pursuing god
00:32:28.670 --> 00:32:32.775
Is like the best thing in life you could ever do, because he
00:32:32.775 --> 00:32:36.445
Meets you exactly where you are.
00:32:36.445 --> 00:32:38.447
You will never, ever find yourself in a place where god's
00:32:38.447 --> 00:32:41.884
Not present.
00:32:41.884 --> 00:32:43.519
Laurie: and then then there's david out there probably singing
00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:46.688
In the field with his heart, singing to his sheep.
00:32:46.688 --> 00:32:49.992
So, i think the face of god is his presence as well.
00:32:49.992 --> 00:32:55.664
His presence was with david as a little boy.
00:32:55.664 --> 00:32:58.901
God knew who he was.
00:32:58.901 --> 00:33:00.402
That's why i anointed him.
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He says, no, no, it's that one out there, you know?
00:33:01.770 --> 00:33:05.741
Those little--that's what's so precious about the times when we
00:33:05.741 --> 00:33:09.711
Feel like we are nobody and just being faithful, doing everything
00:33:09.711 --> 00:33:14.583
That we do as unto the lord, right?
00:33:14.583 --> 00:33:17.719
God sees.
00:33:17.719 --> 00:33:19.088
Amie: well, because it's harder.
00:33:19.088 --> 00:33:20.422
If david, he was the eighth son, so there's no wonder why he was
00:33:20.422 --> 00:33:24.793
Being used just as a servant, because there's no inheritance
00:33:24.793 --> 00:33:27.930
Even for second sons.
00:33:27.930 --> 00:33:29.631
So he was all the way number eight.
00:33:29.631 --> 00:33:31.934
Well, think about the rejection he would have felt having all
00:33:31.934 --> 00:33:35.504
Those seven brothers that his father had to find positions
00:33:35.504 --> 00:33:39.041
For, and he's the last one.
00:33:39.041 --> 00:33:41.910
I think the rejection of his family and his father probably
00:33:41.910 --> 00:33:45.881
Made room for him to seek god, because he had a vacuum, and i
00:33:45.881 --> 00:33:51.286
Think it's almost even though that's difficult, there's a
00:33:51.286 --> 00:33:54.323
Message in that.
00:33:54.323 --> 00:33:55.657
It's almost harder when you're the first or second son, and
00:33:55.657 --> 00:33:59.261
You've been accepted and empowered, and then to really
00:33:59.261 --> 00:34:02.731
Seek god, because then you have to discern this is artificial.
00:34:02.731 --> 00:34:08.003
I don't need just the admonition of my earthly father, i need the
00:34:08.003 --> 00:34:12.374
Admonition of god.
00:34:12.374 --> 00:34:14.243
I need to know what he's called me to do.
00:34:14.243 --> 00:34:16.612
I need to know who he is.
00:34:16.612 --> 00:34:18.413
And i love how david said the word delight you mentioned
00:34:18.413 --> 00:34:21.283
Multiple times, but how he says in psalms delight yourself in
00:34:21.283 --> 00:34:24.353
The lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart.
00:34:24.353 --> 00:34:26.488
And that word delight, i always struggled with that word,
00:34:26.488 --> 00:34:29.391
Because i thought of like a little girl spinning around in a
00:34:29.391 --> 00:34:31.760
Tutu, and i'm like this is hard.
00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:33.829
This doesn't go with my personality, hard for me
00:34:33.829 --> 00:34:36.165
To understand.
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And so i looked it up, and in hebrew it means it's the word
00:34:37.499 --> 00:34:40.235
Anog, and it means to soften yourself.
00:34:40.235 --> 00:34:43.338
It literally translate in hebrew to effeminate, to feminize.
00:34:43.338 --> 00:34:49.111
And so as i spoke with a rabbi that helps me work through some
00:34:49.111 --> 00:34:52.748
Of this, i said give me the picture, because hebrew is
00:34:52.748 --> 00:34:55.050
A picture.
00:34:55.050 --> 00:34:56.385
Give me the picture of this, and he said, well, it'd be the
00:34:56.385 --> 00:34:57.719
Picture of a soldier coming home from war with all of the battle,
00:34:57.719 --> 00:35:02.691
All the blood on his armor, and coming into his home with little
00:35:02.691 --> 00:35:06.662
Children, his wife, and removing the armor that he needed outside
00:35:06.662 --> 00:35:10.632
His home to fight an enemy.
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Delight means, anog means removing that to soften yourself
00:35:12.634 --> 00:35:17.139
In light of the relationship.
00:35:17.139 --> 00:35:18.807
He doesn't need armor with his wife, he doesn't need armor with
00:35:18.807 --> 00:35:21.543
His child, so he said in light of who god is, soften yourself.
00:35:21.543 --> 00:35:28.083
In light of who he is, and when you soften yourself, he isn't
00:35:28.083 --> 00:35:31.420
Santa claus in the sky that gives you everything you want,
00:35:31.420 --> 00:35:34.723
Because that's not what that verse means.
00:35:34.723 --> 00:35:36.258
That verse is, and people misquote this, it doesn't mean
00:35:36.258 --> 00:35:40.028
God will give you everything you want.
00:35:40.028 --> 00:35:41.697
What it means is when you soften yourself in light of who he is
00:35:41.697 --> 00:35:45.100
In his presence, it means that you align yourself with his
00:35:45.100 --> 00:35:48.637
Heart, and when you do that, he gives you right desires.
00:35:48.637 --> 00:35:52.941
Laurie: he gives you the desire.
00:35:52.941 --> 00:35:54.810
Amie: he gives you what you should desire, and then he is
00:35:54.810 --> 00:35:59.081
More than happy to fulfill what you should desire, right?
00:35:59.081 --> 00:36:04.086
Kalley: so delighting ourselves in the lord is such a massive
00:36:04.086 --> 00:36:07.589
Tool, especially when we're not feeling it, when we're going
00:36:07.589 --> 00:36:10.092
Through seasons that are hard, difficult, dry.
00:36:10.092 --> 00:36:13.528
To me, what it looks like is calling to mind, remembering the
00:36:13.528 --> 00:36:17.432
Truth of who he is, the stories of my life, of his faithfulness,
00:36:17.432 --> 00:36:22.070
Feeding on the testimony of who he is to me, who he's been to
00:36:22.070 --> 00:36:26.475
Me, opening up the word and reminding my soul, lifting up my
00:36:26.475 --> 00:36:32.447
Spirit to the truth of who he is and finding joy in my maker, joy
00:36:32.447 --> 00:36:38.186
In my creator that lifts above my circumstances, above the
00:36:38.186 --> 00:36:43.358
Situation that's happening on the outside, and delighting in
00:36:43.358 --> 00:36:46.628
The god of my salvation.
00:36:46.628 --> 00:36:49.965
Sheila: i love the psalms.
00:36:49.965 --> 00:36:52.067
I spend time in the psalms every single day in life, and i want
00:36:52.067 --> 00:36:55.470
You to read you one of my favorite verses.
00:36:55.470 --> 00:36:57.272
This is a promise.
00:36:57.272 --> 00:36:58.640
It's from psalm 37 verse 4 says this, "delight yourself also in
00:36:58.640 --> 00:37:03.278
The lord, and he shall give you the desires of your heart."
00:37:03.278 --> 00:37:06.948
Now, when i was a teenager, i didn't understand that.
00:37:06.948 --> 00:37:09.284
It was like, oh, that just means anything i want, god's going to
00:37:09.284 --> 00:37:12.821
Give me.
00:37:12.821 --> 00:37:14.189
You know, i just--i'll go to church and i'll read my bible,
00:37:14.189 --> 00:37:15.524
And god will give me anything i want.
00:37:15.524 --> 00:37:16.892
No, the first part matters, delight yourself in the lord.
00:37:16.892 --> 00:37:20.662
And i discovered the more time that you spend in god's
00:37:20.662 --> 00:37:23.498
Presence, the more time you spend just enjoying being with
00:37:23.498 --> 00:37:26.635
Him, you discover that you're beginning to desire the kind of
00:37:26.635 --> 00:37:29.538
Things that he would want for your life.
00:37:29.538 --> 00:37:31.840
When you get it the wrong way round, it doesn't work.
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:34.876
But honestly, if you understand how much god wants to welcome
00:37:34.876 --> 00:37:38.313
You into his presence and love on you, no matter what you've
00:37:38.313 --> 00:37:41.883
Been through in life, to let you know you're loved, then you
00:37:41.883 --> 00:37:45.187
Start--it changes you, and you discover that you're actually
00:37:45.187 --> 00:37:48.323
Wanting things now that god would want for your life.
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Amie: how am i gonna learn the heart of god?
00:38:07.577 --> 00:38:08.911
Well, i'm not gonna learn it by coming to him hardened in my own
00:38:08.911 --> 00:38:12.181
Will but softening myself in light of who he is, going i
00:38:12.181 --> 00:38:15.752
Don't need armor with god.
00:38:15.752 --> 00:38:17.086
And that's what i love about david is we get to read in
00:38:17.086 --> 00:38:19.655
Psalms his conversations with god, past his titles, past
00:38:19.655 --> 00:38:24.293
Whoever he was, it's his heart yearning, softened, and i think
00:38:24.293 --> 00:38:29.232
That's why he was a man after god's heart, because he was
00:38:29.232 --> 00:38:32.702
Always vulnerable to god, humble with god, going i'm the
00:38:32.702 --> 00:38:35.938
Recipient, i'm the student here, and i want to see your will for
00:38:35.938 --> 00:38:39.642
My life.
00:38:39.642 --> 00:38:41.010
Faith: i think that reminds me of how he says in psalm 27 verse
00:38:41.010 --> 00:38:43.880
"4, one thing i ask from the lord, this only do i seek, that
00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:50.253
I may dwell in the house of the lord all the days of my life, to
00:38:50.253 --> 00:38:54.690
Gaze on the beauty of the lord and to seek him in his temple."
00:38:54.690 --> 00:38:59.195
It's one of my favorite verses, but what i think is wild is,
00:38:59.195 --> 00:39:03.599
I mean, this is king david, you know?
00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:06.469
And for someone to have that much agency, power, influence,
00:39:06.469 --> 00:39:12.375
I mean, he's gone through life, he's gone through his valleys
00:39:12.375 --> 00:39:16.045
For sure, but for somebody that was anointed by the prophet that
00:39:16.045 --> 00:39:22.518
Was meant to be a king, to say, no, this is the one thing.
00:39:22.518 --> 00:39:27.723
This is the one thing, you know?
00:39:27.723 --> 00:39:29.725
And it's interesting, because all our stories here of how we
00:39:29.725 --> 00:39:34.063
Have gotten to align ourselves with the lord, it's trouble.
00:39:34.063 --> 00:39:38.568
You know, it's sadness, it's disappointment.
00:39:38.568 --> 00:39:42.505
It's when, you know, we are lying in bed, it's when we are
00:39:42.505 --> 00:39:46.242
At a loss, when we just don't understand.
00:39:46.242 --> 00:39:48.411
And, you know, i remember talking to one of my friends,
00:39:48.411 --> 00:39:50.279
And we were just both kind of jokingly, you know, also kind of
00:39:50.279 --> 00:39:54.250
Griping a little bit.
00:39:54.250 --> 00:39:56.185
Like, why can't these moments with god happen like with the
00:39:56.185 --> 00:40:00.923
Birthday party, or with a promotion?
00:40:00.923 --> 00:40:04.393
Why is it that we have to be in so much pain or at such a loss?
00:40:04.393 --> 00:40:11.467
And i think you said it really well when you were saying when
00:40:11.467 --> 00:40:15.805
We go through trial, which david did, it makes room for a deeper
00:40:15.805 --> 00:40:21.143
Revelation of who god is.
00:40:21.143 --> 00:40:23.846
And i think sometimes we feel as though god's favor can only come
00:40:23.846 --> 00:40:28.317
With good circumstances, that the favor of god comes through
00:40:28.317 --> 00:40:34.023
Finding the right spouse or having the family of your dreams
00:40:34.023 --> 00:40:38.194
Or having the future job that you want, when actually the
00:40:38.194 --> 00:40:42.298
Favor of god could happen through difficult circumstances,
00:40:42.298 --> 00:40:47.637
Because unless we go through those things, we will not truly
00:40:47.637 --> 00:40:51.541
Know who god is.
00:40:51.541 --> 00:40:53.509
There is a side of god that could only be known when we are
00:40:53.509 --> 00:40:58.281
Sick, when we are in pain, when we are going through loss.
00:40:58.281 --> 00:41:04.153
It leaves room for who he is.
00:41:04.153 --> 00:41:06.956
Laurie: and we have to understand that through all
00:41:06.956 --> 00:41:09.825
The suffering, we are covered by god's hand.
00:41:09.825 --> 00:41:14.263
We are covered.
00:41:14.263 --> 00:41:15.631
I don't have to worry, i don't have to fret, i don't have to
00:41:15.631 --> 00:41:22.705
Think for one moment that god has left me.
00:41:22.705 --> 00:41:27.643
It's suffering knowing that i'm covered.
00:41:27.643 --> 00:41:33.215
Does that?
00:41:33.215 --> 00:41:34.550
Knowing that everything's gonna change, that all of this is only
00:41:34.550 --> 00:41:40.323
For my good, that i am learning to persevere, i am learning the
00:41:40.323 --> 00:41:46.729
Trials of count it all joy, count it all joy, because i am
00:41:46.729 --> 00:41:51.901
Doing so much on the inside of you, you're completely covered,
00:41:51.901 --> 00:41:55.638
I have you in my hand, you don't have to worry.
00:41:55.638 --> 00:41:58.841
I am showing you i am making you strong in the lord to where you
00:41:58.841 --> 00:42:04.313
Will be complete and entire, lacking nothing from god.
00:42:04.313 --> 00:42:11.053
So it's never in a state of, oh, god, i have to now faith my way
00:42:11.053 --> 00:42:16.225
Through this.
00:42:16.225 --> 00:42:17.627
No, it's i get to trust my way.
00:42:17.627 --> 00:42:20.963
Look at what god's doing right now, congratulations.
00:42:20.963 --> 00:42:24.800
Look what god is carrying you through right now to persevere
00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:29.171
Through this.
00:42:29.171 --> 00:42:30.539
So it is that count it all joy, and i know that's tough for some
00:42:30.539 --> 00:42:34.143
People to understand, because they've all been told that you
00:42:34.143 --> 00:42:37.380
Get jesus in your heart, and then it's smooth sailing from
00:42:37.380 --> 00:42:41.017
Here, you know?
00:42:41.017 --> 00:42:42.351
But it's not, it is god growing you and maturing you into who he
00:42:42.351 --> 00:42:46.989
Wants you to be.
00:42:46.989 --> 00:42:48.858
I just wanna encourage you if you're going through a difficult
00:42:48.858 --> 00:42:51.560
Season, and it may feel like no one is planning anything and we
00:42:51.560 --> 00:42:56.165
Can look at god and go how could this have passed through your
00:42:56.165 --> 00:42:59.035
Hands and you've allowed this in my life?
00:42:59.035 --> 00:43:02.338
We need to remember that god is in control and he's still on the
00:43:02.338 --> 00:43:06.075
Throne when we put him there.
00:43:06.075 --> 00:43:08.978
There's a verse in scripture in the new testament, in ephesians,
00:43:08.978 --> 00:43:12.281
That talks about how everything was put under alignment, under
00:43:12.281 --> 00:43:16.619
Jesus, and yet we haven't seen everything in submission to him.
00:43:16.619 --> 00:43:21.757
And what that means is is that if you're an unbeliever, you can
00:43:21.757 --> 00:43:25.728
Live your life unsurrendered.
00:43:25.728 --> 00:43:29.298
So you're sitting on the throne of your own life, you're ruling
00:43:29.298 --> 00:43:33.402
Your life, your will is what makes all the decisions, or you
00:43:33.402 --> 00:43:37.907
Can put jesus on the throne of your heart.
00:43:37.907 --> 00:43:40.042
And when you do that, his life becomes your life, his will
00:43:40.042 --> 00:43:45.281
Becomes your will, his desires become your desire.
00:43:45.281 --> 00:43:49.985
Sheila: the thing i love, too, about david is his profound
00:43:49.985 --> 00:43:52.988
Understanding of the fact that as much as he longs to know god,
00:43:52.988 --> 00:43:56.459
There's some things about god he will never know.
00:43:56.459 --> 00:43:58.861
You know, like when bathsheba was pregnant and gave birth to
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That little one, and you know, the baby is very sick and david
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Is absolutely distraught, won't eat, won't change, won't wash
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His face, won't do anything, weeping.
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And everybody understands that, it makes sense.
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And then the baby dies, and david gets up and washes and
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Gets ready and has a meal, and they're like this makes
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No sense.
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You know, we got it when you were sad that you were, but now,
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And he's like because i know god could have healed him.
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Now i know i'll see him in heaven.
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And so, the fact that he was able to shift in the praying
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That god would do something, knowing he can, then he doesn't,
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And so you get up and you get on with the next thing that god has
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Called you to do.
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I think that's a huge understanding of you are god and
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I am not.
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Amie: and seeing i think we make a mistake as believers where we
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Think circumstances determine whether or not god favors us or
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That god's favor is gonna be shown through people, and people
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Can mistreat us, because if we were to tap people on the
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Shoulder in the old testament and say, joseph, what doe favor
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From god look like?
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I think he'd go, well, it's the pit, and it's a prison and it's
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Betrayal and it's your brothers turning against you.
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Well, if we were modern day, saying that means god doesn't
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Favor me because these people have betrayed me, no, it
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Actually allows him and us to see god is very different.
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He is an entity completely separate from whatever
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Circumstances we're going through.
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Can he use them to bless us?
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Yes, but it doesn't necessarily mean he's not favoring us,
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Because things go wrong.
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In fact, it could be the opportunity to transfer a great
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Amount of wealth and faith into our lives.
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Sheila: what i love about every one of those stories, like
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Whether it's the pits or the prison or is you read in the
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Text it says and god was with him.
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And god was with him.
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Because we think if god is with us, then things go well.
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But it was at those moments when things seemed to have gone
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Terribly wrong, but he's trafficked into egypt and god
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Was with him.
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Kalley: it's such a good reminder to me that anything i'm
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Going through, no matter what the landscape looks like out in
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Front of me, i can know the heart of the lord more.
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There's always an invitation for that.
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Laurie: you know, i think we forget sometimes that we can
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Actually ask god to help us know him.
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We can actually ask him, god, give me a hunger for your word.
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Don't be afraid to ask god for things that you need in
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Your life.
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I need to be hungry for god's word.
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I need to want his will in my life.
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He said you call on me, and i'll answer you, and the more we know
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God, the more we know who we are in christ, the more we know his
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Word, the more we're gonna want his will in our lives.
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And a lot of that comes through just surrendering, not my will,
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But yours be done.
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Kalley: think about the people watching, and i'm like, man, i
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Find so much hope in the story of david that he's out in the
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Field and that he was being grown, he didn't even know it,
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And that the eyes of god were on him.
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I think about these youth group kids that were just captured by
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The heart of jesus and then just like poured there's--out back.
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That's not about an education, that's not about a wealth
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Bracket, anyone can do this.
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Anyone can do this, and that is the invitation made available,
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That the love of god is for all of us, anytime,
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Through anything.
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And i just, as we're talking, i just kind of want to pray
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And wrap up with this.
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We talked about delight, and i talked about these kids dancing
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Before the lord.
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David dancing, just reckless, wild abandon, you know, and the
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Invitation there, but i think it always starts with him.
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He always initiates, and i've been thinking about
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Zephaniah 3:17, "the lord your god is in your midst."
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I'm gonna pray, but i just wanna pray this scripture over
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Everyone watching, whether you find yourself in the field, or
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If you feel like you are this ragtag, i'm not qualified, but i
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Want the heart of god, i wanna know who he is, i wanna see his
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Passion for me, i wanna encounter him, i just want to
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Declare you, the lord your god is in your midst, a mighty one
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Who will save.
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He will rejoice over you, delight over you, dance over you
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With gladness.
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He will quiet you by his love, and he will exult over you with
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Loud singing.
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God, it always starts with your heart for us first.
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You take the first step.
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God, you do the reaching, you initiate, god.
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And i ask for everyone watching, father, i ask for a gift
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Of hunger.
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There's no gift like the gift of hunger to taste who you are.
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God, i ask that you would come, and you would rejoice over every
00:48:51.120 --> 00:48:54.623
Person watching, that you would light their heart on fire, no
00:48:54.623 --> 00:48:59.228
Matter what they're in, no matter what they're facing, that
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They would see your face, god, that you give us grace to
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See you.
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We wanna see you, we wanna value you for more than what you can
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Do for us.
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We love your hand, but we are in awe of your face.
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So, god, i just ask wherever anyone is watching that you
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Would fill that room, that you would come, that you would bring
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Delight and bring joy over them, that you would light their
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Hearts ablaze, god, and teach us your ways.
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Let us see your face, in the name of jesus, amen.
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Laurie: jesus, amen.
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Announcer: connect with us on social media and let us know how
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Our team can pray for you.
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Amie: some tools and resources that have really helped god's
00:49:45.908 --> 00:49:49.111
Word come alive in my heart are bible study programs.
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You can find them online.
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There are various different ones.
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I have loved diving into the hebrew and greek original
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Translations and seeking different translations.
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You can get comparison side-by-side versions where you
00:50:03.192 --> 00:50:06.829
Can see how the different translators chose different
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Maybe adjectives or nouns, and that really helps me understand.
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I love it when i can find something new.
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And you know what?
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Every time i read the word of god, i see something i did not
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See before.
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So i encourage you, whether it's a daily reading plan or even a
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Bible study at your church community or online, get into
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Something that is interesting to you, especially something that
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Contains community engagement or conversation.
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You learn more when you talk about it with friends
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And family.
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Announcer: stream full episodes of "better together" on demand.
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Go to bettertogether.tv
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To stream all of our latest conversations.
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Align Your Heart with God - Episode 1106

October 20, 2025 | S7 E1106 | 52:34

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