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Better Together | Better Together LIVE - Episode 313 | August 26, 2021
- - SHEILA WALSH: WHEN LIFE
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- - SHEILA WALSH: WHEN LIFE CHANGES SUDDENLY, HOW DO YOU
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- CHANGES SUDDENLY, HOW DO YOU RESPOND?
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- RESPOND? OFTEN, WE FEEL THE IMPACT IN
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- OFTEN, WE FEEL THE IMPACT IN OUR MIND, IN OUR BODY, AND
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- OUR MIND, IN OUR BODY, AND SOUL.
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- TODAY, WE'RE LEARNING HOW TO
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- TODAY, WE'RE LEARNING HOW TO NAVIGATE CHANGE IN A HEALTHY
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- NAVIGATE CHANGE IN A HEALTHY WAY, BECAUSE GOD KNOWS EXACTLY
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- WAY, BECAUSE GOD KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED.
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- WHAT WE NEED. COME ON.
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- COME ON. JOIN US.
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- JOIN US. [MUSIC]
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- [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
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- [MUSIC] - DR. ANITA PHILLIPS:
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- - DR. ANITA PHILLIPS: RECENTLY, I HAD TO NAVIGATE
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- RECENTLY, I HAD TO NAVIGATE A REALLY BIG CHANGE.
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- A REALLY BIG CHANGE. MY HUSBAND AND I...MOVED TO
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- MY HUSBAND AND I...MOVED TO DALLAS AFTER 25 OF YEARS OF
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- DALLAS AFTER 25 OF YEARS OF LIVING TOGETHER IN MARYLAND.
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- LIVING TOGETHER IN MARYLAND. SO, I AM LIVING IN A BRAND-NEW
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- SO, I AM LIVING IN A BRAND-NEW PLACE IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL
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- PLACE IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL THIS PANDEMIC CHANGE.
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- THIS PANDEMIC CHANGE. AND I KNOW -- KNEW AND KNOW --
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- AND I KNOW -- KNEW AND KNOW -- WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT
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- WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT THAT THIS IS GOD'S WILL FOR US,
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- THAT THIS IS GOD'S WILL FOR US, THAT THIS MOVE IS WHAT GOD HAD
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- THAT THIS MOVE IS WHAT GOD HAD FOR US.
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- EVEN THOUGH I KNEW THAT, IT'S
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- EVEN THOUGH I KNEW THAT, IT'S STILL BEEN HARD.
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- STILL BEEN HARD. NAVIGATING THE CHANGE ENDED UP
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- NAVIGATING THE CHANGE ENDED UP BEING SO MUCH MORE EMOTIONALLY
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- BEING SO MUCH MORE EMOTIONALLY PAINFUL THAN I HAD EVER
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- PAINFUL THAN I HAD EVER EXPECTED.
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- EXPECTED. BECAUSE I APPROACHED IT WITH
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- BECAUSE I APPROACHED IT WITH SUCH JOY!
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- SUCH JOY! BUT WHEN I GOT TO THE NEW PLACE
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- BUT WHEN I GOT TO THE NEW PLACE WHERE WE'RE LIVING AND
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- WHERE WE'RE LIVING AND EVERYTHING WAS SO UNFAMILIAR,
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- EVERYTHING WAS SO UNFAMILIAR, IT ACTUALLY BLEW ME AWAY HOW
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- IT ACTUALLY BLEW ME AWAY HOW EMOTIONALLY DIFFICULT IT WAS.
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- EMOTIONALLY DIFFICULT IT WAS. I LIKENED IT TO A BUTTERFLY
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- I LIKENED IT TO A BUTTERFLY COMING OUT OF THE COCOON.
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- COMING OUT OF THE COCOON. YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS LOVE THAT
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- YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS LOVE THAT STORY: "OH, YOU'RE GOING TO
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- STORY: "OH, YOU'RE GOING TO BURST OUT OF YOUR HARD-TIME
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- BURST OUT OF YOUR HARD-TIME BETTER," AND BLAH-BLAH-BLAH.
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- BETTER," AND BLAH-BLAH-BLAH. BUT I GOTTA BELIEVE IT'S SO
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- BUT I GOTTA BELIEVE IT'S SO CRAMPED IN THAT COCOON THAT
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- CRAMPED IN THAT COCOON THAT THAT BUTTERFLY MIGHT BE A
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- THAT BUTTERFLY MIGHT BE A LITTLE SORE WHEN IT FIRST COMES
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- LITTLE SORE WHEN IT FIRST COMES OUT.
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- YOU KNOW? IT'S JUST LIKE: I'VE
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- YOU KNOW? IT'S JUST LIKE: I'VE BEEN CRAMPED UP, AND, NOW, I'M
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- BEEN CRAMPED UP, AND, NOW, I'M EMERGING.
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- EMERGING. AND SO, THE PAIN OF THE
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- AND SO, THE PAIN OF THE EMERGENCE DID NOT MEAN THAT
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- EMERGENCE DID NOT MEAN THAT WHAT WE WERE DOING WASN'T THE
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- WHAT WE WERE DOING WASN'T THE RIGHT THING.
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- RIGHT THING. SOMETIMES, WHEN WE'RE
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- SOMETIMES, WHEN WE'RE NAVIGATING CHANGE, WE WONDER IF
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- NAVIGATING CHANGE, WE WONDER IF PAIN MEANS I'M DOING THE RIGHT
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- PAIN MEANS I'M DOING THE RIGHT THING, OR NOT.
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- THING, OR NOT. IN THAT CASE, IT DEFINITELY IS
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- IN THAT CASE, IT DEFINITELY IS THE RIGHT THING.
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- THE RIGHT THING. LIKE, OUR PAIN WAS JUST PART OF
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- LIKE, OUR PAIN WAS JUST PART OF THE TRANSITION.
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- THE TRANSITION. I KNOW, WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A
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- I KNOW, WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT, THAT GOD DID THIS FOR
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- DOUBT, THAT GOD DID THIS FOR US.
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- US. BUT, SOMETIMES, PAIN DOES GIVE
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- BUT, SOMETIMES, PAIN DOES GIVE US A MESSAGE.
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- US A MESSAGE. SOMETIMES, PAIN MAY BE TELLING
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- SOMETIMES, PAIN MAY BE TELLING YOU THAT YOU NEED TO MAKE A
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- YOU THAT YOU NEED TO MAKE A DIFFERENT CHANGE, YOU NEED TO
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- DIFFERENT CHANGE, YOU NEED TO GO IN DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
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- GO IN DIFFERENT DIRECTION. AND I WANNA JUST READ THIS
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- AND I WANNA JUST READ THIS SCRIPTURE WITH THAT THOUGHT.
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- ECCLESIASTES 3: "THERE IS A
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- ECCLESIASTES 3: "THERE IS A TIME FOR EVERYTHING, AND A
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- TIME FOR EVERYTHING, AND A SEASON FOR EVERY ACTIVITY UNDER
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- SEASON FOR EVERY ACTIVITY UNDER THE HEAVENS..."
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- THE HEAVENS..." VERSE 2: "...A TIME TO BE BORN
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- VERSE 2: "...A TIME TO BE BORN AND A TIME TO DIE,
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- AND A TIME TO DIE, A TIME TO PLANT AND A TIME
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- A TIME TO PLANT AND A TIME TO UPROOT,
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- TO UPROOT, A TIME TO KILL AND A TIME
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- A TIME TO KILL AND A TIME TO HEAL,
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- TO HEAL, A TIME TO TEAR DOWN AND A
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- A TIME TO TEAR DOWN AND A TIME TO BUILD..."
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- TIME TO BUILD..." AND I WANNA SKIP DOWN TO
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- AND I WANNA SKIP DOWN TO VERSE 6:
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- VERSE 6: "...A TIME TO SEARCH AND A
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- "...A TIME TO SEARCH AND A TIME TO GIVE UP,
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- TIME TO GIVE UP, A TIME TO KEEP AND A TIME TO
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- A TIME TO KEEP AND A TIME TO THROW AWAY..."
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- YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES, IT'S TIME
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- YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES, IT'S TIME TO GIVE UP.
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- TO GIVE UP. SOMETIMES, IT'S TIME TO THROW
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- SOMETIMES, IT'S TIME TO THROW SOMETHING AWAY.
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- SOMETHING AWAY. AND, SO OFTEN, AS WOMEN IN
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- AND, SO OFTEN, AS WOMEN IN PARTICULAR, WE STAY IN
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- PARTICULAR, WE STAY IN DIFFICULT SITUATIONS, BEYOND
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- DIFFICULT SITUATIONS, BEYOND THE SEASON FOR THAT TIME,
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- THE SEASON FOR THAT TIME, BECAUSE WE ARE AFRAID THAT
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- BECAUSE WE ARE AFRAID THAT PEOPLE WILL THINK THAT WE ARE
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- PEOPLE WILL THINK THAT WE ARE SCARED, OR THAT WE'RE GIVING
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- SCARED, OR THAT WE'RE GIVING UP, OR THAT WE'RE QUITTING,
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- UP, OR THAT WE'RE QUITTING, WHEN, REALLY, THIS SITUATION
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- WHEN, REALLY, THIS SITUATION DOESN'T SERVE ME ANYMORE,
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- DOESN'T SERVE ME ANYMORE, OR IT NEVER DID.
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- OR IT NEVER DID. AND SO, WE HAVE TO BE AS
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- AND SO, WE HAVE TO BE AS WILLING TO HAVE A TIME TO PLANT
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- WILLING TO HAVE A TIME TO PLANT AS WE ARE WILLING TO PULL UP.
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- AS WE ARE WILLING TO PULL UP. WE HAVE TO BE AS WILLING TO
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- WE HAVE TO BE AS WILLING TO SEARCH FOR THE ANSWER AS WE ARE
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- SEARCH FOR THE ANSWER AS WE ARE WILLING TO GIVE UP, AS WE ARE
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- WILLING TO GIVE UP, AS WE ARE WILLING TO THROW AWAY, BECAUSE,
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- WILLING TO THROW AWAY, BECAUSE, SOMETIMES, THAT'S WHAT'S
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- SOMETIMES, THAT'S WHAT'S NEEDED.
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- NEEDED. AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO NOT
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- AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO NOT ASSUME THAT PAIN ALWAYS MEANS
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- ASSUME THAT PAIN ALWAYS MEANS THAT WE'RE IN THE WILL OF GOD.
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- THAT WE'RE IN THE WILL OF GOD. SOMETIMES, WE COME FROM CHURCH
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- SOMETIMES, WE COME FROM CHURCH TRADITIONS WHERE IT'S JUST BEEN
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- TRADITIONS WHERE IT'S JUST BEEN LIKE: IF YOU'RE DOING THE WILL
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- LIKE: IF YOU'RE DOING THE WILL OF GOD, IT'S GONNA BE HARD,
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- OF GOD, IT'S GONNA BE HARD, THERE'S GONNA BE TRIALS,
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- THERE'S GONNA BE TRIALS, THERE'S GONNA BE TRIBULATIONS."
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- THERE'S GONNA BE TRIBULATIONS." YES, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THOSE
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- YES, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THOSE THINGS IN LIFE, BUT THAT
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- THINGS IN LIFE, BUT THAT DOESN'T DEFINE WHAT IT MEANS TO
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- DOESN'T DEFINE WHAT IT MEANS TO WALK IN THE WILL OF GOD.
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- WALK IN THE WILL OF GOD. WHAT ABOUT JOY?
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- WHAT ABOUT JOY? WHAT ABOUT PEACE?
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- WHAT ABOUT PEACE? WHERE ARE THE FRUITS OF THE
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- WHERE ARE THE FRUITS OF THE SPIRIT IN THIS SITUATION?
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- SPIRIT IN THIS SITUATION? AND SO, I WANNA JUST KICK OFF
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- AND SO, I WANNA JUST KICK OFF TALKING ABOUT IT, FROM THAT
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- TALKING ABOUT IT, FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE I DON'T
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- PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE TALK ABOUT IT ENOUGH.
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- THINK WE TALK ABOUT IT ENOUGH. I GOTTA BELIEVE THAT IN THIS
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- I GOTTA BELIEVE THAT IN THIS CONVERSATION WITH THE WOMEN
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- CONVERSATION WITH THE WOMEN THAT I'M WITH TODAY, ONE OF
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- THAT I'M WITH TODAY, ONE OF Y'ALL HAS HAD A POINT WHERE YOU
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- Y'ALL HAS HAD A POINT WHERE YOU HAD TO THROW IT AWAY, GIVE IT
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- HAD TO THROW IT AWAY, GIVE IT UP, WALK AWAY.
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- UP, WALK AWAY. AND MAYBE PEOPLE MISUNDERSTOOD
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- AND MAYBE PEOPLE MISUNDERSTOOD YOU.
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- YOU. MAYBE THEY THOUGHT THAT YOU
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- MAYBE THEY THOUGHT THAT YOU WERE SCARED OR THAT YOU WERE A
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- WERE SCARED OR THAT YOU WERE A QUITTER.
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- QUITTER. BUT YOU KNEW IT WAS TIME TO
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- BUT YOU KNEW IT WAS TIME TO THROW IT AWAY.
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- THROW IT AWAY. ANYBODY HAVE AN EXPERIENCE LIKE
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- ANYBODY HAVE AN EXPERIENCE LIKE THAT, BEFORE?
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- THAT, BEFORE? - SHEILA: THAT IS SO, SO GOOD.
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- - SHEILA: THAT IS SO, SO GOOD. AND, HONESTLY, WHAT IT MADE ME
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- AND, HONESTLY, WHAT IT MADE ME THINK OF WAS FOR ABOUT FIVE
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- THINK OF WAS FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS, I CO-HOSTED A PROGRAM
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- YEARS, I CO-HOSTED A PROGRAM CALLED "THE 700 CLUB" AND I
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- CALLED "THE 700 CLUB" AND I LOVED IT.
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- LOVED IT. AND THEN, I HAD A BREAKDOWN,
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- AND THEN, I HAD A BREAKDOWN, AND I SPENT A MONTH IN A
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- AND I SPENT A MONTH IN A PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL, DIAGNOSED
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- PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL, DIAGNOSED WITH SEVERE CLINICAL
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- WITH SEVERE CLINICAL DEPRESSION.
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- DEPRESSION. AND, THERE WAS SUCH A PANIC IN
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- AND, THERE WAS SUCH A PANIC IN THE PEOPLE AROUND ME, IN TERMS
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- THE PEOPLE AROUND ME, IN TERMS OF "WE HAVE TO KIND OF KEEP
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- OF "WE HAVE TO KIND OF KEEP THIS ON THE DOWN-LOW,"
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- THIS ON THE DOWN-LOW," "LET'S NOT TELL PEOPLE
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- "LET'S NOT TELL PEOPLE WHERE SHE'S GONE --
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- WHERE SHE'S GONE -- LET'S, YOU KNOW"--
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- AND I REMEMBER...ONE SENIOR
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- AND I REMEMBER...ONE SENIOR STAFF MEMBER WALKING ME AROUND
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- STAFF MEMBER WALKING ME AROUND THE LAKE AND SAYING TO ME:
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- THE LAKE AND SAYING TO ME: "SHEILA, IF YOU-- IF YOU GO TO
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- "SHEILA, IF YOU-- IF YOU GO TO THIS HOSPITAL, NO ONE WILL EVER
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- THIS HOSPITAL, NO ONE WILL EVER TRUST YOU, AGAIN.
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- TRUST YOU, AGAIN. YOU WILL NEVER BE SPECIAL,
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- YOU WILL NEVER BE SPECIAL, AGAIN.
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- AGAIN. YOU HAVE TO TRY AND SAVE YOUR
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- YOU HAVE TO TRY AND SAVE YOUR MINISTRY."
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- MINISTRY." AND I REMEMBER SAYING TO HIM:
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- AND I REMEMBER SAYING TO HIM: "I'M NOT TRYING TO SAVE MY
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- "I'M NOT TRYING TO SAVE MY MINISTRY.
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- MINISTRY. I'M TRYING TO SAVE MY LIFE."
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- I'M TRYING TO SAVE MY LIFE." BECAUSE, WHAT I HONESTLY
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- BECAUSE, WHAT I HONESTLY BELIEVED WAS -- AND I REMEMBER
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- BELIEVED WAS -- AND I REMEMBER SAYING, "LORD, IF ALL THIS
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- SAYING, "LORD, IF ALL THIS THING THAT I DID, ALL THESE
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- THING THAT I DID, ALL THESE YEARS OF MAKING RECORDS, AND
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- YEARS OF MAKING RECORDS, AND WRITING BOOKS, AND BEING ON
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- WRITING BOOKS, AND BEING ON TV -- IF THIS WAS SOMETHING
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- TV -- IF THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE JUST ALL COOKED UP, AS
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- THAT WE JUST ALL COOKED UP, AS A TEAM, AND YOU'RE NOT IN IT,
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- A TEAM, AND YOU'RE NOT IN IT, LET IT DIE -- LET IT GO, LET IT
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- LET IT DIE -- LET IT GO, LET IT DIE."
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- AND I DETERMINED, INSTEAD OF
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- AND I DETERMINED, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO GO-- AFTER MY
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- TRYING TO GO-- AFTER MY EXPERIENCE IN THE HOSPITAL --
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- EXPERIENCE IN THE HOSPITAL -- INSTEAD OF TRYING TO GO BACK
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- INSTEAD OF TRYING TO GO BACK ONTO TV, PRETEND EVERYTHING WAS
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- ONTO TV, PRETEND EVERYTHING WAS FINE, I ACTUALLY WENT BACK TO
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- FINE, I ACTUALLY WENT BACK TO SEMINARY.
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- SEMINARY. BECAUSE I THOUGHT: THE FIRST
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- BECAUSE I THOUGHT: THE FIRST TIME I WENT TO SEMINARY IN
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- TIME I WENT TO SEMINARY IN LONDON WHEN I WAS 18 -- I WENT
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- LONDON WHEN I WAS 18 -- I WENT TO LEARN: WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO
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- TO LEARN: WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO SO THAT GOD WILL NEVER STOP
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- SO THAT GOD WILL NEVER STOP LOVING ME.
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- LOVING ME. AND I THOUGHT: I WANT TO GO
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- AND I THOUGHT: I WANT TO GO BACK THIS TIME TO LEARN
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- BACK THIS TIME TO LEARN WHAT CHRIST HAS ALREADY DONE,
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- WHAT CHRIST HAS ALREADY DONE, SO THAT GOD WILL NEVER STOP
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- SO THAT GOD WILL NEVER STOP LOVING ME.
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- LOVING ME. AND, A LOT OF PEOPLE SAID, "IF
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- AND, A LOT OF PEOPLE SAID, "IF YOU QUIT NOW, IF YOU WALK AWAY
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- YOU QUIT NOW, IF YOU WALK AWAY FROM MINISTRY, NOW, GOD WILL
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- FROM MINISTRY, NOW, GOD WILL NEVER USE YOU, AGAIN."
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- NEVER USE YOU, AGAIN." BUT I KNEW IN MY SPIRIT--
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- BUT I KNEW IN MY SPIRIT-- I MEAN, IT WAS LIKE THAT:
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- I MEAN, IT WAS LIKE THAT: "UNLESS A SEED FALLS INTO THE
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- "UNLESS A SEED FALLS INTO THE GROUND AND DIES, IT BEARS NO
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- GROUND AND DIES, IT BEARS NO FRUIT."
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- FRUIT." AND MY THING WAS: YOU KNOW
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- AND MY THING WAS: YOU KNOW WHAT?
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- WHAT? I FEEL AS IF THE LORD IS
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- I FEEL AS IF THE LORD IS SAYING: WALK AWAY.
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- SAYING: WALK AWAY. LET IT ALL GO.
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- LET IT ALL GO. AND TRUST HIM, WITH THE FUTURE.
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- AND TRUST HIM, WITH THE FUTURE. AND I THOUGHT: IF I END UP
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- AND I THOUGHT: IF I END UP BEING A GREETER IN WALMART, OR
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- BEING A GREETER IN WALMART, OR WORKING IN AN ANTIQUE STORE, OR
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- WORKING IN AN ANTIQUE STORE, OR A BOOKSTORE, I WILL HAVE THE
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- A BOOKSTORE, I WILL HAVE THE PEACE OF KNOWING THAT GOD LOVES
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- PEACE OF KNOWING THAT GOD LOVES ME.
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- ME. AND I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF HIS
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- AND I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF HIS WILL.
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- WILL. AND IF HE WANTS TO OPEN OTHER
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- AND IF HE WANTS TO OPEN OTHER DOORS, GOD IS MORE THAN CAPABLE
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- DOORS, GOD IS MORE THAN CAPABLE OF DOING THAT.
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- OF DOING THAT. BUT IT'S TIME FOR ME...TO WALK
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- BUT IT'S TIME FOR ME...TO WALK AWAY.
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- AWAY. - DR. ANITA: OKAY, I JUST GOT
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- - DR. ANITA: OKAY, I JUST GOT A...
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- A... AS A THERAPIST, I JUST GOT
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- AS A THERAPIST, I JUST GOT A...MOMENT, RIGHT THERE.
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- A...MOMENT, RIGHT THERE. BECAUSE YOU TOOK THE TIME TO
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- BECAUSE YOU TOOK THE TIME TO TAKE CARE OF YOU.
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- TAKE CARE OF YOU. YOU'RE A HUMAN BEING.
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- YOU'RE A HUMAN BEING. AND I COULD JUST IMAGINE--
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- AND I COULD JUST IMAGINE-- BECAUSE, UNFORTUNATELY, EVEN IN
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- BECAUSE, UNFORTUNATELY, EVEN IN THE CHURCH WORLD, WE GET CAUGHT
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- THE CHURCH WORLD, WE GET CAUGHT UP IN CELEBRITY AND BEING OUT
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- UP IN CELEBRITY AND BEING OUT FRONT.
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- FRONT. AND YOU SAID: YOU KNOW WHAT?
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- AND YOU SAID: YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'S NOT ABOUT THAT.
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- IT'S NOT ABOUT THAT. I'M GOING TO TAKE CARE OF WHAT
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- I'M GOING TO TAKE CARE OF WHAT I NEED TO TAKE CARE OF.
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- I NEED TO TAKE CARE OF. I'M DEALING WITH DEPRESSION.
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- I'M DEALING WITH DEPRESSION. IT DOESN'T MAKE ME LESS OF A
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- IT DOESN'T MAKE ME LESS OF A CHRISTIAN.
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- CHRISTIAN. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE'S
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- IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE'S BEEN A RUPTURE IN MY
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- BEEN A RUPTURE IN MY RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.
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- RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD. I'M DEALING WITH SOMETHING
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- I'M DEALING WITH SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENING IN MY BODY,
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- THAT'S HAPPENING IN MY BODY, AND I'M GONNA HANDLE IT.
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- AND I'M GONNA HANDLE IT. AND, IF PEOPLE SAY, HEY,
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- AND, IF PEOPLE SAY, HEY, I BROKE DOWN AND QUIT
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- I BROKE DOWN AND QUIT "THE 700 CLUB," SO BE IT.
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- "THE 700 CLUB," SO BE IT. I'M GONNA GO LIVE THE BEST LIFE
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- I'M GONNA GO LIVE THE BEST LIFE THAT I CAN -- SPIRITUALLY,
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- THAT I CAN -- SPIRITUALLY, EMOTIONALLY, AND PHYSICALLY.
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- EMOTIONALLY, AND PHYSICALLY. I JUST APPLAUD YOU FOR THAT.
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- I JUST APPLAUD YOU FOR THAT. AW, THAT'S INCREDIBLE.
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- AW, THAT'S INCREDIBLE. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
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- THANK YOU FOR THAT. - SHEILA: THANK YOU.
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- - SHEILA: THANK YOU. - NICOLE: BUT, I REMEMBER BACK
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- - NICOLE: BUT, I REMEMBER BACK WHEN I WAS AROUND 20 YEARS OLD.
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- WHEN I WAS AROUND 20 YEARS OLD. AND...YOU KNOW, I...YOU KNOW,
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- AND...YOU KNOW, I...YOU KNOW, CAME OUT OF A GOOD CHRISTIAN
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- CAME OUT OF A GOOD CHRISTIAN HOME.
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- HOME. MY GRANDDADS ON BOTH SIDES OF
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- MY GRANDDADS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE FAMILY WERE PENTECOSTAL
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- THE FAMILY WERE PENTECOSTAL PASTORS.
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- I WENT THROUGH CATECHISM --
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- I WENT THROUGH CATECHISM -- YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE NINE.
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- YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE NINE. GRADUATED WHEN I WAS 17, WENT
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- GRADUATED WHEN I WAS 17, WENT TO BIBLE SCHOOL -- I WAS A GOOD
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- TO BIBLE SCHOOL -- I WAS A GOOD GIRL.
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- GIRL. AND, I MET THIS GUY, AND I
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- AND, I MET THIS GUY, AND I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, HEY -- HE
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- THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, HEY -- HE MUST BE THE BLACK APOSTLE PAUL,
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- MUST BE THE BLACK APOSTLE PAUL, 'CAUSE HE SAID, "BLESS GOD,"
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- 'CAUSE HE SAID, "BLESS GOD," AFTER EVERYTHING.
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- [LAUGHTER]
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- [LAUGHTER] AND...YOU KNOW, I'M JUST
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- AND...YOU KNOW, I'M JUST SAYING.
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- SAYING. AND, ON THE FIRST DATE, HE
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- AND, ON THE FIRST DATE, HE ACTUALLY ASKED ME TO MARRY HIM.
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- ACTUALLY ASKED ME TO MARRY HIM. WELL, I DIDN'T WANNA GET
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- WELL, I DIDN'T WANNA GET MARRIED, YET, 'CAUSE I'M LIKE:
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- I'M ONLY 20 -- I'M NOT 21, YET.
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- I'M ONLY 20 -- I'M NOT 21, YET. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT REALLY GROWN.
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- YOU KNOW, I'M NOT REALLY GROWN. BUT, I WAS THINKING IN MY HEAD,
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- BUT, I WAS THINKING IN MY HEAD, THE STINKIN' THINKIN' THAT
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- THE STINKIN' THINKIN' THAT GOD'S WILL IS PROBABLY THE
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- GOD'S WILL IS PROBABLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT I WANNA DO.
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- AND SO, IN MY HEAD, THAT WAS MY
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- AND SO, IN MY HEAD, THAT WAS MY REASONING.
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- REASONING. AND SO, I SAID YES, AND I GOT
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- AND SO, I SAID YES, AND I GOT INTO SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT
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- INTO SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT GOD'S WILL.
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- GOD'S WILL. AND, FOR THREE YEARS, I WAS
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- AND, FOR THREE YEARS, I WAS PHYSICALLY ABUSED, OVER AND
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- PHYSICALLY ABUSED, OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
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- OVER AND OVER AGAIN. I WAS MENTALLY, AND, YOU KNOW,
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- I WAS MENTALLY, AND, YOU KNOW, EMOTIONALLY ABUSED.
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- EMOTIONALLY ABUSED. AND IT WAS JUST ONE OF THOSE
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- AND IT WAS JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
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- THINGS. AND I REMEMBER THINKING: IF I
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- AND I REMEMBER THINKING: IF I GET OUT OF THIS, THEN I'M GONNA
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- GET OUT OF THIS, THEN I'M GONNA FEEL LIKE THE BIGGEST FAILURE.
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- FEEL LIKE THE BIGGEST FAILURE. YOU KNOW, MY PARENTS -- LIKE I
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- YOU KNOW, MY PARENTS -- LIKE I SAID -- MY PARENTS WERE MARRIED
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- SAID -- MY PARENTS WERE MARRIED FOR FOREVER.
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- FOR FOREVER. MY GRANDPARENTS AT THE END
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- MY GRANDPARENTS AT THE END WERE MARRIED FOR 60-PLUS YEARS
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- WERE MARRIED FOR 60-PLUS YEARS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE FAMILY.
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- ON BOTH SIDES OF THE FAMILY. NOBODY IN MY FAMILY WAS
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- NOBODY IN MY FAMILY WAS DIVORCED.
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- DIVORCED. SO, I'M THINKING: I CAN'T BE
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- SO, I'M THINKING: I CAN'T BE THE FIRST.
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- THE FIRST. AND, IF I AM -- OF COURSE, GOD
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- AND, IF I AM -- OF COURSE, GOD WON'T WANNA USE ME.
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- WON'T WANNA USE ME. YOU KNOW, HE SPOKE THINGS OVER
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- YOU KNOW, HE SPOKE THINGS OVER ME, AT THE AGE OF 12.
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- ME, AT THE AGE OF 12. AND, AT, YOU KNOW, 19, HE WAS
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- AND, AT, YOU KNOW, 19, HE WAS GONNA DO ALL THESE GREAT
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- GONNA DO ALL THESE GREAT THINGS, AND GIVE ME SONGS IN
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- THINGS, AND GIVE ME SONGS IN THE NIGHT, AND TAKE ME AROUND
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- THE NIGHT, AND TAKE ME AROUND THE WORLD, SINGING.
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- THE WORLD, SINGING. IF I GET OUT OF THIS ABUSIVE
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- IF I GET OUT OF THIS ABUSIVE SITUATION, IN MY HEAD, I WAS
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- SITUATION, IN MY HEAD, I WAS THINKING: I'M GONNA FORFEIT
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- THINKING: I'M GONNA FORFEIT EVERY GOOD THING GOD HAS FOR
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- EVERY GOOD THING GOD HAS FOR ME.
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- ME. BUT, AT THIS POINT, IF I'M NOT
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- BUT, AT THIS POINT, IF I'M NOT ALIVE, THEN I'M NOT HERE TO
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- ALIVE, THEN I'M NOT HERE TO LIVE IT...YOU KNOW?
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- LIVE IT...YOU KNOW? AND SO, I REMEMBER GOING TO MY
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- AND SO, I REMEMBER GOING TO MY PARENTS, AND HUMBLING MYSELF,
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- PARENTS, AND HUMBLING MYSELF, AND BEING HONEST, SAYING,
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- AND BEING HONEST, SAYING, "GOD"-- YOU KNOW, TELLING MY
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- "GOD"-- YOU KNOW, TELLING MY PARENTS, "THIS IS WHAT I'VE
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- PARENTS, "THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH."
- 00:08:46.882 --> 00:08:47.483
- BEEN GOING THROUGH." AND MY PARENTS -- THEY BECAME
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- AND MY PARENTS -- THEY BECAME THAT COVERING, FOR ME, AGAIN.
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- THAT COVERING, FOR ME, AGAIN. AND THEY WERE LIKE, "WE WOULD
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- AND THEY WERE LIKE, "WE WOULD RATHER HAVE YOU ALIVE AND
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- RATHER HAVE YOU ALIVE AND DIVORCED THAN MARRIED AND
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- DIVORCED THAN MARRIED AND DEAD."
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- DEAD." - DR. ROBYN WILKERSON:
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- - DR. ROBYN WILKERSON: (EARNEST WHISPER) YEAH...OF
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- (EARNEST WHISPER) YEAH...OF COURSE.
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- COURSE. - NICOLE: IN OUR FAITH
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- - NICOLE: IN OUR FAITH CIRCLES, THAT WAS HUGE.
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- CIRCLES, THAT WAS HUGE. BECAUSE WE DON'T-- WE DON'T
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- BECAUSE WE DON'T-- WE DON'T ESPOUSE TO DIVORCE.
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- ESPOUSE TO DIVORCE. WE DON'T LOVE DIVORCE.
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- WE DON'T LOVE DIVORCE. IT'S A BLOODY THING THAT
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- IT'S A BLOODY THING THAT HAPPENS, AND WE KNOW THAT.
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- HAPPENS, AND WE KNOW THAT. BUT TO HEAR THEM SAY, "WE LOVE
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- BUT TO HEAR THEM SAY, "WE LOVE YOU MORE THAN WE CARE ABOUT THE
- 00:09:05.368 --> 00:09:07.436
- YOU MORE THAN WE CARE ABOUT THE STIGMA OF MAN," OR EVEN IN OUR
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- STIGMA OF MAN," OR EVEN IN OUR RELIGIOUS CIRCLES, YOU KNOW...
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- RELIGIOUS CIRCLES, YOU KNOW... AND SO, THEY BROUGHT ME BACK
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- AND SO, THEY BROUGHT ME BACK UNDER THEIR COVERING.
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- UNDER THEIR COVERING. I NEVER MOVED BACK HOME, BUT, I
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- I NEVER MOVED BACK HOME, BUT, I KNEW MOM AND DAD HAD ME.
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- KNEW MOM AND DAD HAD ME. AND, DURING THAT SEASON OF ME
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- AND, DURING THAT SEASON OF ME FEELING LIKE GOD PROBABLY
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- FEELING LIKE GOD PROBABLY WOULDN'T WANNA TALK TO ME IS
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- WOULDN'T WANNA TALK TO ME IS WHERE I LEARNED HIS CHARACTER
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- WHERE I LEARNED HIS CHARACTER AND HIS NATURE, THE MOST.
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- AND HIS NATURE, THE MOST. LIKE, HE DID NOT BREAK OR
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- LIKE, HE DID NOT BREAK OR BRUISE THAT REED THAT WAS
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- BRUISE THAT REED THAT WAS ALREADY LIKE...LIKE ALREADY ON
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- ALREADY LIKE...LIKE ALREADY ON THE END, YOU KNOW.
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- THE END, YOU KNOW. HE WAS LIKE: I GOT YOU.
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- HE WAS LIKE: I GOT YOU. THAT'S WHERE I SAW THAT, YOU
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- THAT'S WHERE I SAW THAT, YOU KNOW, HE WAS CARING, HE WAS
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- KNOW, HE WAS CARING, HE WAS LOVING, HE WASN'T WHAT SOME
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- LOVING, HE WASN'T WHAT SOME PEOPLE HAD SAID OR MADE HIM OUT
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- PEOPLE HAD SAID OR MADE HIM OUT TO BE.
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- TO BE. BUT HE WAS DEAR TO THE
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- BUT HE WAS DEAR TO THE BROKENHEARTED; HE WAS NEAR.
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- BROKENHEARTED; HE WAS NEAR. AND, IT WAS FROM THERE AND FROM
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- AND, IT WAS FROM THERE AND FROM TIMES THAT CAME AFTER THAT THAT
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- TIMES THAT CAME AFTER THAT THAT HE DID BEGIN TO GIVE ME SONGS
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- HE DID BEGIN TO GIVE ME SONGS IN THE NIGHT.
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- IN THE NIGHT. AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT I THOUGHT
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- AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT I THOUGHT WERE SONGS HE WAS GONNA GIVE ME
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- WERE SONGS HE WAS GONNA GIVE ME AFTER 11, OR, YOU KNOW, 12 AT
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- AFTER 11, OR, YOU KNOW, 12 AT NIGHT WERE ACTUALLY SONGS IN
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- NIGHT WERE ACTUALLY SONGS IN THE PM OF LIFE, SONGS FOR OTHER
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- THE PM OF LIFE, SONGS FOR OTHER PEOPLE, AS WELL AS MYSELF, TO
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- PEOPLE, AS WELL AS MYSELF, TO SAY THAT "THERE IS A LIGHT,"
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- SAY THAT "THERE IS A LIGHT," THAT "I AM STILL HERE WITH YOU
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- THAT "I AM STILL HERE WITH YOU -- I WILL WALK YOU THROUGH AND
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- -- I WILL WALK YOU THROUGH AND YOU HAVE NOT FORFEITED WHAT I
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- YOU HAVE NOT FORFEITED WHAT I HAD, BECAUSE OF A BAD SEASON
- 00:10:07.863 --> 00:10:08.664
- HAD, BECAUSE OF A BAD SEASON THAT HAS HAPPENED IN YOUR
- 00:10:08.731 --> 00:10:10.132
- THAT HAS HAPPENED IN YOUR LIFE."
- 00:10:10.199 --> 00:10:11.667
- LIFE." AND SO, THAT, FOR ME, HAS BEEN
- 00:10:11.734 --> 00:10:12.702
- AND SO, THAT, FOR ME, HAS BEEN FREEING.
- 00:10:12.768 --> 00:10:13.803
- FREEING. AND IT'S ALSO BEEN A NEW
- 00:10:13.869 --> 00:10:15.438
- AND IT'S ALSO BEEN A NEW PICTURE THAT I KEEP BEFORE ME,
- 00:10:15.504 --> 00:10:17.873
- PICTURE THAT I KEEP BEFORE ME, WHEN I WRITE, WHEN I SPEAK,
- 00:10:17.940 --> 00:10:20.009
- WHEN I WRITE, WHEN I SPEAK, WHEN I SING.
- 00:10:20.076 --> 00:10:22.645
- WHEN I SING. IT'S THE PICTURE OF CHRIST IN
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- IT'S THE PICTURE OF CHRIST IN HIS GRACE AND HIS LOVE AND HIS
- 00:10:23.345 --> 00:10:24.647
- HIS GRACE AND HIS LOVE AND HIS KINDNESS, THAT EVEN WHEN WE
- 00:10:24.714 --> 00:10:25.247
- KINDNESS, THAT EVEN WHEN WE MESS UP, EVEN WHEN, YOU KNOW,
- 00:10:25.314 --> 00:10:27.917
- MESS UP, EVEN WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE MAKE THE WRONG CHOICES, HE'S
- 00:10:27.983 --> 00:10:29.285
- WE MAKE THE WRONG CHOICES, HE'S STILL THERE.
- 00:10:29.351 --> 00:10:29.852
- STILL THERE. AND HE IS TRUE TO HIS WORD.
- 00:10:29.919 --> 00:10:30.786
- AND HE IS TRUE TO HIS WORD. HE SAYS: "NO GOOD THING WILL HE
- 00:10:30.853 --> 00:10:32.321
- HE SAYS: "NO GOOD THING WILL HE WITHHOLD FROM THEM THAT WALK
- 00:10:32.388 --> 00:10:33.189
- WITHHOLD FROM THEM THAT WALK UPRIGHTLY."
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- UPRIGHTLY." - DR. ROBYN: RIGHT.
- 00:10:33.889 --> 00:10:34.457
- - DR. ROBYN: RIGHT. - NICOLE: NOT: "NO GOOD THING
- 00:10:34.523 --> 00:10:35.925
- - NICOLE: NOT: "NO GOOD THING WILL HE GIVE TO THEM THAT WALK
- 00:10:35.991 --> 00:10:36.892
- WILL HE GIVE TO THEM THAT WALK UPRIGHTLY," BUT "NO GOOD THING
- 00:10:36.959 --> 00:10:38.127
- UPRIGHTLY," BUT "NO GOOD THING WILL HE WITHHOLD" FROM US, IF
- 00:10:38.194 --> 00:10:38.994
- WILL HE WITHHOLD" FROM US, IF WE'RE WALKING UPRIGHT BEFORE
- 00:10:39.061 --> 00:10:41.530
- WE'RE WALKING UPRIGHT BEFORE HIM.
- 00:10:41.597 --> 00:10:42.998
- HIM. - DR. ROBYN: UNH! I LOVE THAT.
- 00:10:43.065 --> 00:10:44.033
- - DR. ROBYN: UNH! I LOVE THAT. AND, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THERE,
- 00:10:44.100 --> 00:10:46.102
- AND, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THERE, I THINK, IS WHAT WE ALL NEED TO
- 00:10:46.168 --> 00:10:46.936
- I THINK, IS WHAT WE ALL NEED TO LOOK AT IN OUR LIVES.
- 00:10:47.002 --> 00:10:48.337
- OUR HEARTS -- OUR EMOTIONAL
- 00:10:49.004 --> 00:10:51.073
- OUR HEARTS -- OUR EMOTIONAL SPACE -- OUR HEARTS, OUR MINDS,
- 00:10:51.140 --> 00:10:52.341
- SPACE -- OUR HEARTS, OUR MINDS, OUR BODY, OUR SPIRIT -- IF
- 00:10:52.408 --> 00:10:53.442
- OUR BODY, OUR SPIRIT -- IF THEY'RE NOT ALIGNED, WE NEED TO
- 00:10:53.509 --> 00:10:55.611
- THEY'RE NOT ALIGNED, WE NEED TO PAUSE AND COMB THROUGH THAT.
- 00:10:55.678 --> 00:10:58.547
- PAUSE AND COMB THROUGH THAT. DON'T ASSUME THAT THE
- 00:10:58.614 --> 00:11:00.015
- DON'T ASSUME THAT THE MISALIGNMENT IS A MESSAGE FROM
- 00:11:00.082 --> 00:11:03.319
- MISALIGNMENT IS A MESSAGE FROM GOD, OR THAT IT'S NECESSARILY
- 00:11:03.385 --> 00:11:04.954
- GOD, OR THAT IT'S NECESSARILY AN ATTACK FROM THE ENEMY.
- 00:11:05.020 --> 00:11:06.188
- AN ATTACK FROM THE ENEMY. BUT SIT DOWN AND SAY:
- 00:11:06.255 --> 00:11:07.123
- BUT SIT DOWN AND SAY: WHERE AM I SPIRITUALLY?
- 00:11:07.189 --> 00:11:09.959
- WHAT ARE MY PERSPECTIVES ON
- 00:11:10.726 --> 00:11:11.260
- WHAT ARE MY PERSPECTIVES ON GOD?
- 00:11:11.327 --> 00:11:11.727
- GOD? DO I SEE GOD AS GOD TRULY IS?
- 00:11:11.794 --> 00:11:13.329
- DO I SEE GOD AS GOD TRULY IS? AM I WORSHIPPING AN IMAGE OF
- 00:11:13.395 --> 00:11:14.597
- AM I WORSHIPPING AN IMAGE OF GOD THAT WAS PASSED DOWN TO ME
- 00:11:14.663 --> 00:11:16.165
- GOD THAT WAS PASSED DOWN TO ME FROM A CULTURAL TRADITION OF
- 00:11:16.232 --> 00:11:17.166
- FROM A CULTURAL TRADITION OF THE WORD?
- 00:11:17.233 --> 00:11:18.667
- THE WORD? OR AM I WORSHIPING THE GOD I
- 00:11:18.734 --> 00:11:20.136
- OR AM I WORSHIPING THE GOD I FOUND, IN THE BIBLE, FOR
- 00:11:20.202 --> 00:11:20.669
- FOUND, IN THE BIBLE, FOR MYSELF?
- 00:11:20.736 --> 00:11:21.337
- MYSELF? AM I WORSHIPING THE JESUS THAT
- 00:11:21.403 --> 00:11:22.404
- AM I WORSHIPING THE JESUS THAT I BROUGHT INTO MY HEART?
- 00:11:22.471 --> 00:11:23.172
- WHERE AM I, EMOTIONALLY?
- 00:11:24.006 --> 00:11:25.207
- WHERE AM I, EMOTIONALLY? WHY AM I HAVING THIS EMOTIONAL
- 00:11:25.274 --> 00:11:26.075
- WHY AM I HAVING THIS EMOTIONAL RESPONSE?
- 00:11:26.142 --> 00:11:27.076
- RESPONSE? AND, IS IT LEGITIMATE?
- 00:11:27.143 --> 00:11:29.812
- AND, IS IT LEGITIMATE? IS IT A WAY FOR ME TO KNOW THAT
- 00:11:29.879 --> 00:11:31.213
- IS IT A WAY FOR ME TO KNOW THAT SOMETHING IS AMISS?
- 00:11:31.280 --> 00:11:31.647
- SOMETHING IS AMISS? YOU KNOW, WE'RE TAUGHT THAT OUR
- 00:11:31.714 --> 00:11:32.281
- YOU KNOW, WE'RE TAUGHT THAT OUR EMOTIONS ARE THESE
- 00:11:32.348 --> 00:11:32.982
- EMOTIONS ARE THESE UNTRUSTWORTHY SPACE THAT WE
- 00:11:33.048 --> 00:11:34.316
- UNTRUSTWORTHY SPACE THAT WE HAVE TO CONTROL AND REPRESS.
- 00:11:34.383 --> 00:11:35.918
- BUT, A LOT OF TIMES, IT'S
- 00:11:36.519 --> 00:11:37.253
- BUT, A LOT OF TIMES, IT'S GIVING US INFORMATION.
- 00:11:37.319 --> 00:11:38.521
- GIVING US INFORMATION. - CHRISTINE CAINE: I THINK
- 00:11:38.587 --> 00:11:39.555
- - CHRISTINE CAINE: I THINK WHAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT
- 00:11:39.622 --> 00:11:43.425
- WHAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STATE IN THIS IS YES AND
- 00:11:43.492 --> 00:11:44.393
- WE STATE IN THIS IS YES AND AMEN, TO EVERYTHING YOU'RE
- 00:11:44.460 --> 00:11:45.661
- AMEN, TO EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING, AND, WE MUST ALSO BE
- 00:11:45.728 --> 00:11:48.497
- SAYING, AND, WE MUST ALSO BE SO ATTENTIVE TO THE VOICE OF
- 00:11:48.564 --> 00:11:51.333
- SO ATTENTIVE TO THE VOICE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT IN OUR LIVES.
- 00:11:51.400 --> 00:11:55.871
- THE HOLY SPIRIT IN OUR LIVES. BECAUSE, WHAT WE HAVE IS TWO
- 00:11:55.938 --> 00:11:56.472
- BECAUSE, WHAT WE HAVE IS TWO THINGS.
- 00:11:56.539 --> 00:11:57.940
- THINGS. A LOT OF US THAT HAVE BEEN
- 00:11:58.007 --> 00:11:59.642
- A LOT OF US THAT HAVE BEEN SCHOOLED, MAYBE IN A THEOLOGY
- 00:11:59.708 --> 00:12:00.876
- SCHOOLED, MAYBE IN A THEOLOGY OR A CHURCH CONTEXT, WHICH IS,
- 00:12:00.943 --> 00:12:03.012
- OR A CHURCH CONTEXT, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, YOU STAY TO YOUR OWN
- 00:12:03.078 --> 00:12:03.779
- YOU KNOW, YOU STAY TO YOUR OWN DETRIMENT, YOU STAY AT RISK OF
- 00:12:03.846 --> 00:12:05.781
- DETRIMENT, YOU STAY AT RISK OF YOUR OWN PHYSICAL HARM, OR...
- 00:12:05.848 --> 00:12:06.782
- YOUR OWN PHYSICAL HARM, OR... - DR. ROBYN: RIGHT...RIGHT.
- 00:12:06.849 --> 00:12:08.450
- - DR. ROBYN: RIGHT...RIGHT. - CHRISTINE: I MEAN-- OF
- 00:12:08.517 --> 00:12:09.451
- - CHRISTINE: I MEAN-- OF COURSE, ONE OF THE GREATEST
- 00:12:09.518 --> 00:12:10.286
- COURSE, ONE OF THE GREATEST THINGS THAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE
- 00:12:10.352 --> 00:12:10.986
- THINGS THAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE LAST FEW YEARS IS THAT WE'VE
- 00:12:11.053 --> 00:12:12.421
- LAST FEW YEARS IS THAT WE'VE WOKEN UP TO THE FACT THAT ABUSE
- 00:12:12.488 --> 00:12:14.490
- WOKEN UP TO THE FACT THAT ABUSE IS NEVER OKAY.
- 00:12:14.557 --> 00:12:16.025
- YOU'VE GOTTA REMOVE YOURSELF
- 00:12:16.625 --> 00:12:17.159
- YOU'VE GOTTA REMOVE YOURSELF FROM ANY ABUSIVE SITUATION --
- 00:12:17.226 --> 00:12:17.993
- FROM ANY ABUSIVE SITUATION -- PERIOD, DONE.
- 00:12:18.060 --> 00:12:19.495
- PERIOD, DONE. THERE IS-- TO FULFILL THE
- 00:12:19.562 --> 00:12:22.598
- THERE IS-- TO FULFILL THE PURPOSE OF GOD, THOUGH, THERE
- 00:12:22.665 --> 00:12:25.234
- ARE TIMES IN OUR LIVES THAT
- 00:12:26.101 --> 00:12:26.635
- ARE TIMES IN OUR LIVES THAT HAVE GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH
- 00:12:26.702 --> 00:12:27.236
- HAVE GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH ABUSE -- SO, LET ME SAY THAT
- 00:12:27.303 --> 00:12:28.504
- ABUSE -- SO, LET ME SAY THAT UPFRONT, BECAUSE, OTHERWISE,
- 00:12:28.571 --> 00:12:29.972
- UPFRONT, BECAUSE, OTHERWISE, WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY CAN BE
- 00:12:30.039 --> 00:12:31.774
- WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY CAN BE TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT -- THAT
- 00:12:31.841 --> 00:12:32.775
- TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT -- THAT YOU HAVE GOT TO PRESS IN AND
- 00:12:32.842 --> 00:12:35.144
- YOU HAVE GOT TO PRESS IN AND PRESS ON, AND DIG DEEP AND
- 00:12:35.211 --> 00:12:36.145
- PRESS ON, AND DIG DEEP AND STAY.
- 00:12:36.212 --> 00:12:37.012
- STAY. &
- 00:12:37.079 --> 00:12:37.646
- & - DR. ROBYN: THAT'S RIGHT.
- 00:12:37.713 --> 00:12:38.447
- - DR. ROBYN: THAT'S RIGHT. - CHRISTINE: AND THE BIBLE,
- 00:12:38.514 --> 00:12:39.381
- - CHRISTINE: AND THE BIBLE, FROM GENESIS TO REVELATION, HAS
- 00:12:39.448 --> 00:12:40.382
- FROM GENESIS TO REVELATION, HAS A PRECEDENT THAT, YOU KNOW,
- 00:12:40.449 --> 00:12:42.418
- A PRECEDENT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOTTA PRESS IN.
- 00:12:42.484 --> 00:12:44.186
- YOU'VE GOTTA PRESS IN. I'M TRYING TO TEACH THIS TO MY
- 00:12:44.253 --> 00:12:45.387
- I'M TRYING TO TEACH THIS TO MY DAUGHTERS.
- 00:12:45.454 --> 00:12:46.355
- DAUGHTERS. BECAUSE THEY'RE GROWING UP
- 00:12:46.422 --> 00:12:47.623
- BECAUSE THEY'RE GROWING UP IN AN AGE WHERE "IF I'M NOT
- 00:12:47.690 --> 00:12:49.091
- IN AN AGE WHERE "IF I'M NOT FEELING IT, MUM..."
- 00:12:49.158 --> 00:12:50.059
- FEELING IT, MUM..." I'M LIKE: "YOU'LL...
- 00:12:50.125 --> 00:12:51.327
- I'M LIKE: "YOU'LL... YOU CAN TAKE YOUR I'M-NOT-
- 00:12:51.393 --> 00:12:52.895
- YOU CAN TAKE YOUR I'M-NOT- FEELING-IT-MUM AND STICK IT IN
- 00:12:52.962 --> 00:12:54.430
- FEELING-IT-MUM AND STICK IT IN YOUR PIPE."
- 00:12:54.496 --> 00:12:56.398
- YOUR PIPE." BUT, IF THEY'RE NOT FEELING IT,
- 00:12:56.465 --> 00:12:57.833
- BUT, IF THEY'RE NOT FEELING IT, OR IF I DON'T LIKE IT, OR IF
- 00:12:57.900 --> 00:13:00.436
- OR IF I DON'T LIKE IT, OR IF IT'S JUST A TAD UNCOMFORTABLE,
- 00:13:00.502 --> 00:13:02.438
- IT'S JUST A TAD UNCOMFORTABLE, THEN I'M OUT OF HERE.
- 00:13:02.504 --> 00:13:04.874
- THEN I'M OUT OF HERE. AND I'M THINKING: HOW DO YOU
- 00:13:04.940 --> 00:13:06.775
- AND I'M THINKING: HOW DO YOU THINK YOU'RE EVER GONNA FULFILL
- 00:13:06.842 --> 00:13:07.443
- THINK YOU'RE EVER GONNA FULFILL THE WILL OF GOD?
- 00:13:07.509 --> 00:13:08.177
- THE WILL OF GOD? WHO -- TELL ME ANYBODY IN THE
- 00:13:08.244 --> 00:13:09.812
- WHO -- TELL ME ANYBODY IN THE ENTIRE CANON OF SCRIPTURE THAT
- 00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:12.281
- ENTIRE CANON OF SCRIPTURE THAT FULFILLED THE WILL OF GOD,
- 00:13:12.348 --> 00:13:15.284
- FULFILLED THE WILL OF GOD, THAT, AT TIMES, DID NOT HAVE TO
- 00:13:15.351 --> 00:13:16.919
- THAT, AT TIMES, DID NOT HAVE TO PRESS IN AND BEYOND, AND BE
- 00:13:16.986 --> 00:13:20.356
- PRESS IN AND BEYOND, AND BE ABLE TO FORGIVE QUICKLY, NOT
- 00:13:20.422 --> 00:13:22.558
- ABLE TO FORGIVE QUICKLY, NOT TAKE OFFENSE, OVERLOOK AN
- 00:13:22.625 --> 00:13:24.193
- TAKE OFFENSE, OVERLOOK AN OFFENSE...
- 00:13:24.260 --> 00:13:25.294
- OFFENSE... I MEAN, SOME OF THESE THINGS--
- 00:13:25.361 --> 00:13:26.629
- I MEAN, SOME OF THESE THINGS-- AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WAY
- 00:13:26.695 --> 00:13:28.597
- AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WAY IS FORWARD, SO I'M ACTUALLY
- 00:13:28.664 --> 00:13:31.267
- IS FORWARD, SO I'M ACTUALLY ASKING ALL OF YOU WHO ARE
- 00:13:31.333 --> 00:13:32.968
- ASKING ALL OF YOU WHO ARE MOTHERS AND GRANDMOTHERS -- AND
- 00:13:33.035 --> 00:13:34.703
- MOTHERS AND GRANDMOTHERS -- AND PSYCHOLOGISTS, AS WELL -- IN
- 00:13:34.770 --> 00:13:35.871
- PSYCHOLOGISTS, AS WELL -- IN ALL OF THIS, TO GO: WHAT DO YOU
- 00:13:35.938 --> 00:13:37.606
- ALL OF THIS, TO GO: WHAT DO YOU THINK?
- 00:13:37.673 --> 00:13:38.207
- THINK? 'CAUSE THIS IS A BIG CONCERN
- 00:13:38.274 --> 00:13:38.908
- 'CAUSE THIS IS A BIG CONCERN FOR ME, FOR THE NEXT
- 00:13:38.974 --> 00:13:39.875
- FOR ME, FOR THE NEXT GENERATION, IS THAT WE ARE SO
- 00:13:39.942 --> 00:13:40.776
- GENERATION, IS THAT WE ARE SO AWARE--
- 00:13:40.843 --> 00:13:42.111
- AWARE-- AND WE NEED TO BE AWARE: LISTEN
- 00:13:42.177 --> 00:13:43.345
- AND WE NEED TO BE AWARE: LISTEN TO YOUR BODY, LISTEN TO YOUR
- 00:13:43.412 --> 00:13:44.513
- TO YOUR BODY, LISTEN TO YOUR HEART, LISTEN TO YOUR MIND,
- 00:13:44.580 --> 00:13:45.981
- HEART, LISTEN TO YOUR MIND, LOOK AT YOUR PHYSICAL
- 00:13:46.048 --> 00:13:46.548
- LOOK AT YOUR PHYSICAL SURROUNDINGS.
- 00:13:46.615 --> 00:13:47.416
- SURROUNDINGS. THERE ARE TIMES YOU NEED TO
- 00:13:47.483 --> 00:13:48.284
- THERE ARE TIMES YOU NEED TO BAIL.
- 00:13:48.350 --> 00:13:49.218
- BAIL. THERE ARE TIMES YOU NEED TO
- 00:13:49.285 --> 00:13:49.985
- THERE ARE TIMES YOU NEED TO GIVE UP.
- 00:13:50.052 --> 00:13:51.186
- GIVE UP. THE OVERCORRECTION TO THAT, I
- 00:13:51.253 --> 00:13:54.790
- THE OVERCORRECTION TO THAT, I THINK, IS THAT PEOPLE ARE JUST
- 00:13:54.857 --> 00:13:56.592
- THINK, IS THAT PEOPLE ARE JUST BAILING AND QUITTING.
- 00:13:56.659 --> 00:13:58.494
- BAILING AND QUITTING. - DR. ROBYN: THE GRANDMA WANTS
- 00:13:58.560 --> 00:13:59.261
- - DR. ROBYN: THE GRANDMA WANTS TO SAY THAT IT'S GRIT OR QUIT.
- 00:13:59.328 --> 00:14:01.297
- TO SAY THAT IT'S GRIT OR QUIT. GRIT OR QUIT!
- 00:14:01.363 --> 00:14:04.233
- GRIT OR QUIT! AND BOTH CAN BE RIGHT.
- 00:14:04.300 --> 00:14:08.270
- AND BOTH CAN BE RIGHT. - DR. ANITA: SURE.
- 00:14:08.337 --> 00:14:09.338
- - DR. ANITA: SURE. - DR. ROBYN: AND, YOU'RE SO
- 00:14:09.405 --> 00:14:10.272
- - DR. ROBYN: AND, YOU'RE SO RIGHT, CHRISTINE.
- 00:14:10.339 --> 00:14:12.041
- BECAUSE, MY OBEDIENCE...IS
- 00:14:13.642 --> 00:14:14.777
- BECAUSE, MY OBEDIENCE...IS OFTEN...THE MOST IMPORTANT
- 00:14:14.843 --> 00:14:17.146
- OFTEN...THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT CAN STOP ME FROM MY
- 00:14:17.212 --> 00:14:18.480
- THING THAT CAN STOP ME FROM MY MIRACLE.
- 00:14:18.547 --> 00:14:21.250
- MIRACLE. SO, THE PRESENCE OF THE
- 00:14:21.317 --> 00:14:23.085
- SO, THE PRESENCE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT IN MY LIFE IS
- 00:14:23.152 --> 00:14:24.954
- HOLY SPIRIT IN MY LIFE IS NECESSARY.
- 00:14:25.020 --> 00:14:26.755
- NECESSARY. AT THE SAME TIME, I CAN'T BE
- 00:14:26.822 --> 00:14:29.658
- AT THE SAME TIME, I CAN'T BE PERFORMING FOR OTHER PEOPLE.
- 00:14:29.725 --> 00:14:32.861
- PERFORMING FOR OTHER PEOPLE. BECAUSE MY TESTIMONY IS, AS A
- 00:14:32.928 --> 00:14:34.863
- BECAUSE MY TESTIMONY IS, AS A GRANDMOTHER, SOME OF THE WORST
- 00:14:34.930 --> 00:14:37.099
- GRANDMOTHER, SOME OF THE WORST THINGS THAT EVER HAPPENED IN MY
- 00:14:37.166 --> 00:14:37.967
- THINGS THAT EVER HAPPENED IN MY LIFE TURNED OUT TO BE THE BEST
- 00:14:38.033 --> 00:14:41.036
- LIFE TURNED OUT TO BE THE BEST THINGS, THE MOST CHARACTER-
- 00:14:41.103 --> 00:14:43.739
- THINGS, THE MOST CHARACTER- BUILDING THINGS.
- 00:14:43.806 --> 00:14:45.074
- - NICOLE: AND, YES.
- 00:14:45.674 --> 00:14:46.875
- - NICOLE: AND, YES. - DR. ROBYN: AND I CAN SEE
- 00:14:46.942 --> 00:14:48.444
- - DR. ROBYN: AND I CAN SEE NICOLE SHAKING HER HEAD THAT
- 00:14:48.510 --> 00:14:50.779
- NICOLE SHAKING HER HEAD THAT ALTHOUGH SHE WOULD NEVER WISH A
- 00:14:50.846 --> 00:14:51.914
- ALTHOUGH SHE WOULD NEVER WISH A DIVORCE ON ANYBODY, I CAN
- 00:14:51.981 --> 00:14:54.049
- DIVORCE ON ANYBODY, I CAN GUARANTEE THAT OUT OF HER SOUL
- 00:14:54.116 --> 00:14:59.421
- GUARANTEE THAT OUT OF HER SOUL HAS COME MUSIC AND MINISTRY,
- 00:14:59.488 --> 00:15:01.323
- HAS COME MUSIC AND MINISTRY, OUT OF GOING THROUGH THAT
- 00:15:01.390 --> 00:15:02.891
- OUT OF GOING THROUGH THAT HORRIFIC STORY OF HER LIFE.
- 00:15:02.958 --> 00:15:05.094
- HORRIFIC STORY OF HER LIFE. SO, NOBODY EVER WISHES ANYTHING
- 00:15:05.160 --> 00:15:06.762
- SO, NOBODY EVER WISHES ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
- 00:15:06.829 --> 00:15:08.697
- LIKE THAT. BUT I KNOW, IN MY OWN LIFE, THE
- 00:15:08.764 --> 00:15:09.865
- BUT I KNOW, IN MY OWN LIFE, THE BIBLE PROMISES -- AND WE CAN
- 00:15:09.932 --> 00:15:12.234
- BIBLE PROMISES -- AND WE CAN ALL QUOTE IT -- ROMANS 8:28:
- 00:15:12.301 --> 00:15:15.070
- "WE KNOW THAT ALL THINGS WORK
- 00:15:15.738 --> 00:15:16.739
- "WE KNOW THAT ALL THINGS WORK TOGETHER FOR THE GOOD FOR THOSE
- 00:15:16.805 --> 00:15:20.376
- TOGETHER FOR THE GOOD FOR THOSE WHO LOVE GOD -- THOSE WHOM HE
- 00:15:20.442 --> 00:15:23.212
- WHO LOVE GOD -- THOSE WHOM HE HAS CALLED ACCORDING TO HIS
- 00:15:23.278 --> 00:15:24.013
- HAS CALLED ACCORDING TO HIS PLAN."
- 00:15:24.079 --> 00:15:27.249
- PLAN." AND THAT'S ALL OF US -- THAT
- 00:15:27.316 --> 00:15:28.417
- AND THAT'S ALL OF US -- THAT ALL THINGS ARE GONNA WORK
- 00:15:28.484 --> 00:15:30.319
- ALL THINGS ARE GONNA WORK TOGETHER FOR GOOD.
- 00:15:30.386 --> 00:15:31.920
- SO, WE GO BACK TO OUR VALUES --
- 00:15:32.388 --> 00:15:34.156
- SO, WE GO BACK TO OUR VALUES -- AND, I DO THINK THAT, IN 2020,
- 00:15:34.223 --> 00:15:36.992
- AND, I DO THINK THAT, IN 2020, 2021, WE NEED TO STOP AND ASK
- 00:15:37.059 --> 00:15:39.695
- 2021, WE NEED TO STOP AND ASK OURSELVES: WHAT ARE OUR VALUES?
- 00:15:39.762 --> 00:15:41.330
- OURSELVES: WHAT ARE OUR VALUES? AND, AS MOTHERS, ESPECIALLY,
- 00:15:41.397 --> 00:15:46.869
- AND, AS MOTHERS, ESPECIALLY, WHAT IS THE LIFESTYLE THAT WE
- 00:15:46.935 --> 00:15:48.570
- WHAT IS THE LIFESTYLE THAT WE NEED TO BE LIVING IN FRONT OF
- 00:15:48.637 --> 00:15:50.205
- NEED TO BE LIVING IN FRONT OF OUR DAUGHTERS, IN FRONT OF OUR
- 00:15:50.272 --> 00:15:54.076
- OUR DAUGHTERS, IN FRONT OF OUR SONS, IN FRONT OF PEOPLE SO
- 00:15:54.143 --> 00:15:55.044
- SONS, IN FRONT OF PEOPLE SO THAT THEY CAN FOLLOW OUR LIFE?
- 00:15:55.110 --> 00:15:59.281
- THAT THEY CAN FOLLOW OUR LIFE? AND, I MEAN, WE REALLY ARE
- 00:15:59.348 --> 00:16:00.616
- AND, I MEAN, WE REALLY ARE ON TRIAL IN THAT REGARD --
- 00:16:00.682 --> 00:16:04.086
- ON TRIAL IN THAT REGARD -- AREN'T WE? -- THAT WE'RE LIVING
- 00:16:04.153 --> 00:16:04.853
- AREN'T WE? -- THAT WE'RE LIVING A LIFE THAT YOUNG PEOPLE CAN
- 00:16:04.920 --> 00:16:05.454
- A LIFE THAT YOUNG PEOPLE CAN SAY, "I WANT TO BE LIKE THAT,
- 00:16:05.521 --> 00:16:07.523
- SAY, "I WANT TO BE LIKE THAT, I WANNA HAVE WHAT THEY'VE GOT."
- 00:16:07.589 --> 00:16:12.261
- I WANNA HAVE WHAT THEY'VE GOT." AND THEN, THE BIG QUESTION --
- 00:16:12.327 --> 00:16:12.861
- AND THEN, THE BIG QUESTION -- AND THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE
- 00:16:12.928 --> 00:16:14.596
- AND THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE REALLY CHALLENGE MYSELF WITH:
- 00:16:14.663 --> 00:16:15.330
- REALLY CHALLENGE MYSELF WITH: ROBYN, WHAT IS SUCCESS?
- 00:16:15.397 --> 00:16:19.535
- ROBYN, WHAT IS SUCCESS? WHAT IS ARRIVING AT THE FINISH
- 00:16:19.601 --> 00:16:22.104
- WHAT IS ARRIVING AT THE FINISH LINE?
- 00:16:22.171 --> 00:16:24.640
- LINE? IS IT MONEY?
- 00:16:24.706 --> 00:16:25.507
- IS IT MONEY? IS IT ACCLAIM?
- 00:16:25.574 --> 00:16:28.710
- IS IT ACCLAIM? IS IT A BIG HOUSE?
- 00:16:28.777 --> 00:16:30.579
- IS IT A BIG HOUSE? I MEAN, WHAT EXACTLY--
- 00:16:30.646 --> 00:16:32.314
- I MEAN, WHAT EXACTLY-- IS IT "LOOKING GOOD"?
- 00:16:32.381 --> 00:16:34.850
- IS IT "LOOKING GOOD"? I MEAN...WHAT IS SUCCESS?
- 00:16:34.917 --> 00:16:37.820
- I MEAN...WHAT IS SUCCESS? AND ONCE YOU DEFINE "WHAT IS
- 00:16:37.886 --> 00:16:40.389
- AND ONCE YOU DEFINE "WHAT IS SUCCESS?" AND "WHAT IS YOUR
- 00:16:40.456 --> 00:16:43.058
- SUCCESS?" AND "WHAT IS YOUR VALUE SYSTEM?" THEN, YOU'RE
- 00:16:43.125 --> 00:16:44.693
- VALUE SYSTEM?" THEN, YOU'RE ABLE TO STOP AND GO: OKAY.
- 00:16:44.760 --> 00:16:47.129
- ABLE TO STOP AND GO: OKAY. IS IT GRIT?
- 00:16:47.196 --> 00:16:48.997
- IS IT GRIT? AM I GONNA PRESS THROUGH?
- 00:16:49.064 --> 00:16:50.466
- AM I GONNA PRESS THROUGH? OR AM I GONNA QUIT?
- 00:16:50.532 --> 00:16:53.635
- OR AM I GONNA QUIT? AND, DR. ANITA, THERE ARE
- 00:16:53.702 --> 00:16:55.337
- AND, DR. ANITA, THERE ARE BOUNDARIES.
- 00:16:55.404 --> 00:16:57.573
- BOUNDARIES. - DR. ANITA: SURE.
- 00:16:57.639 --> 00:16:58.707
- - DR. ANITA: SURE. - DR. ROBYN: THERE ARE TIMES
- 00:16:58.774 --> 00:16:59.341
- - DR. ROBYN: THERE ARE TIMES THAT I'VE GOTTA INSTITUTE A
- 00:16:59.408 --> 00:17:00.642
- THAT I'VE GOTTA INSTITUTE A BOUNDARY.
- 00:17:00.709 --> 00:17:01.009
- BOUNDARY. BUT THE WORD OF GOD IS QUITE
- 00:17:01.076 --> 00:17:05.481
- BUT THE WORD OF GOD IS QUITE CLEAR ON WHEN WE NEED TO GO AND
- 00:17:05.547 --> 00:17:08.250
- CLEAR ON WHEN WE NEED TO GO AND WHEN WE NEED TO STOP.
- 00:17:08.317 --> 00:17:09.184
- WHEN WE NEED TO STOP. I MEAN, I CAN PREACH A LONG
- 00:17:09.251 --> 00:17:10.219
- I MEAN, I CAN PREACH A LONG TIME ABOUT IT, THAT THERE'S
- 00:17:10.285 --> 00:17:12.454
- TIME ABOUT IT, THAT THERE'S TIMES THAT I NEED TO BE
- 00:17:12.521 --> 00:17:13.555
- TIMES THAT I NEED TO BE ACCOUNTABLE AND PRESS ON.
- 00:17:13.622 --> 00:17:15.924
- ACCOUNTABLE AND PRESS ON. - DR. ANITA: IF I'VE SCARED
- 00:17:15.991 --> 00:17:18.694
- - DR. ANITA: IF I'VE SCARED YOU ALL INTO THINKING I'M
- 00:17:18.760 --> 00:17:19.761
- YOU ALL INTO THINKING I'M SAYING, "HEY, EVERYBODY CAN
- 00:17:19.828 --> 00:17:20.929
- SAYING, "HEY, EVERYBODY CAN JUMP OUT OF THE SHIP WHEN THEY
- 00:17:20.996 --> 00:17:21.830
- JUMP OUT OF THE SHIP WHEN THEY WANT TO," I'M NOT.
- 00:17:21.897 --> 00:17:23.132
- WANT TO," I'M NOT. - NICOLE: NO, NO.
- 00:17:23.198 --> 00:17:23.599
- - NICOLE: NO, NO. - DR. ROBYN: (LAUGHING) NO,
- 00:17:23.665 --> 00:17:24.566
- - DR. ROBYN: (LAUGHING) NO, NO, NO.
- 00:17:24.633 --> 00:17:25.801
- NO, NO. - DR. ANITA: AND THE FACT
- 00:17:25.868 --> 00:17:26.401
- - DR. ANITA: AND THE FACT THAT...THAT MIGHT BE MAKING
- 00:17:26.468 --> 00:17:27.069
- THAT...THAT MIGHT BE MAKING SOME FOLKS NERVOUS IS IMPORTANT
- 00:17:27.136 --> 00:17:27.736
- SOME FOLKS NERVOUS IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO LOOK AT.
- 00:17:27.803 --> 00:17:28.570
- FOR US TO LOOK AT. BUT, ALSO, WITH THE
- 00:17:28.637 --> 00:17:30.172
- BUT, ALSO, WITH THE GENERATIONAL THING, LIKE
- 00:17:30.239 --> 00:17:31.640
- GENERATIONAL THING, LIKE CHRIS BROUGHT UP, TOO -- I
- 00:17:31.707 --> 00:17:32.441
- CHRIS BROUGHT UP, TOO -- I THINK THAT'S HUGE.
- 00:17:32.508 --> 00:17:34.343
- THINK THAT'S HUGE. I LIKE TO THINK OF IT AS: WE
- 00:17:34.409 --> 00:17:35.377
- I LIKE TO THINK OF IT AS: WE GOT THESE TWO GLASSES -- WE GOT
- 00:17:35.444 --> 00:17:37.679
- GOT THESE TWO GLASSES -- WE GOT MY GENERATION -- AND I'M NOT
- 00:17:37.746 --> 00:17:38.280
- MY GENERATION -- AND I'M NOT THAT MUCH YOUNGER THAN YOU,
- 00:17:38.347 --> 00:17:39.414
- THAT MUCH YOUNGER THAN YOU, CHRIS -- AND MY DAUGHTER'S
- 00:17:39.481 --> 00:17:41.583
- GENERATION, THAT WE SHOULD JUST
- 00:17:42.284 --> 00:17:42.885
- GENERATION, THAT WE SHOULD JUST POUR THAT INTO A CUP AND SHAKE
- 00:17:42.951 --> 00:17:43.519
- POUR THAT INTO A CUP AND SHAKE IT UP.
- 00:17:43.585 --> 00:17:44.353
- IT UP. I THINK THAT THERE IS SUCH
- 00:17:44.419 --> 00:17:44.920
- I THINK THAT THERE IS SUCH BEAUTY, IN BOTH.
- 00:17:44.987 --> 00:17:46.655
- BEAUTY, IN BOTH. WHEN I WAS MY DAUGHTER'S AGE,
- 00:17:46.722 --> 00:17:52.394
- WHEN I WAS MY DAUGHTER'S AGE, MY MOM, WHO'S AN INCREDIBLE
- 00:17:52.461 --> 00:17:53.095
- MY MOM, WHO'S AN INCREDIBLE WOMAN OF GOD, WAS A LITTLE
- 00:17:53.162 --> 00:17:53.862
- WOMAN OF GOD, WAS A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT MY GENERATION --
- 00:17:53.929 --> 00:17:54.863
- WORRIED ABOUT MY GENERATION -- LIKE, WE WEREN'T GONNA BE ABLE
- 00:17:54.930 --> 00:17:55.497
- LIKE, WE WEREN'T GONNA BE ABLE TO DO THIS, WE WEREN'T GONNA
- 00:17:55.564 --> 00:17:56.331
- TO DO THIS, WE WEREN'T GONNA KNOW HOW TO GET DOWN IN THERE
- 00:17:56.398 --> 00:17:57.533
- KNOW HOW TO GET DOWN IN THERE AND PRAY AND STICK IT OUT WITH
- 00:17:57.599 --> 00:17:58.300
- AND PRAY AND STICK IT OUT WITH GOD.
- 00:17:58.367 --> 00:17:58.767
- GOD. BUT HERE I AM!
- 00:17:58.834 --> 00:17:59.234
- BUT HERE I AM! THE SEED HAS TAKEN ROOT AND
- 00:17:59.301 --> 00:18:00.402
- THE SEED HAS TAKEN ROOT AND MADE FRUIT.
- 00:18:00.469 --> 00:18:03.705
- AND I BELIEVE AND I'M EXCITED
- 00:18:04.373 --> 00:18:05.174
- AND I BELIEVE AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT AND I WANNA LEARN FROM MY
- 00:18:05.240 --> 00:18:05.841
- ABOUT AND I WANNA LEARN FROM MY DAUGHTER'S WALK WITH THE LORD
- 00:18:05.908 --> 00:18:06.475
- DAUGHTER'S WALK WITH THE LORD HOW GOD'S GONNA SHOW UP IN THAT
- 00:18:06.542 --> 00:18:07.309
- HOW GOD'S GONNA SHOW UP IN THAT GENERATION.
- 00:18:07.376 --> 00:18:08.977
- GENERATION. BECAUSE, WHAT I SEE IS THEY
- 00:18:09.044 --> 00:18:09.912
- BECAUSE, WHAT I SEE IS THEY HAVE A SINGLENESS OF PURPOSE.
- 00:18:09.978 --> 00:18:11.313
- HAVE A SINGLENESS OF PURPOSE. BUT THEY'RE WILLING TO CHANGE
- 00:18:11.380 --> 00:18:15.417
- BUT THEY'RE WILLING TO CHANGE ROUTES, THEY'RE WILLING TO
- 00:18:15.484 --> 00:18:16.318
- ROUTES, THEY'RE WILLING TO CHANGE VEHICLES, AS LONG AS
- 00:18:16.385 --> 00:18:17.653
- CHANGE VEHICLES, AS LONG AS THEY HAVE THEIR EYE ON WHERE
- 00:18:17.719 --> 00:18:18.887
- THEY HAVE THEIR EYE ON WHERE THEIR GOAL IS.
- 00:18:18.954 --> 00:18:19.388
- THEIR GOAL IS. AND SO, I THINK WE'RE GONNA
- 00:18:19.454 --> 00:18:20.322
- AND SO, I THINK WE'RE GONNA SEE THEM SERVING GOD, IN AN
- 00:18:20.389 --> 00:18:21.557
- SEE THEM SERVING GOD, IN AN OUT-OF-THE-BOX, INCREDIBLE WAY,
- 00:18:21.623 --> 00:18:23.192
- OUT-OF-THE-BOX, INCREDIBLE WAY, BECAUSE THEY WILL HOLD ONTO
- 00:18:23.258 --> 00:18:25.494
- BECAUSE THEY WILL HOLD ONTO THEIR CALLING, BUT NOT GET
- 00:18:25.561 --> 00:18:26.895
- THEIR CALLING, BUT NOT GET COMMITTED TO THE VEHICLE
- 00:18:26.962 --> 00:18:28.530
- COMMITTED TO THE VEHICLE ALL OF THE TIME.
- 00:18:28.597 --> 00:18:31.400
- ALL OF THE TIME. AND SO, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE
- 00:18:31.466 --> 00:18:32.034
- AND SO, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE AMAZING -- IF WE CAN BALANCE
- 00:18:32.100 --> 00:18:32.734
- AMAZING -- IF WE CAN BALANCE WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT THEY'RE
- 00:18:32.801 --> 00:18:34.069
- WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT THEY'RE BRINGING, I THINK WE'RE GONNA
- 00:18:34.136 --> 00:18:35.704
- BRINGING, I THINK WE'RE GONNA SEE SOMETHING INCREDIBLE
- 00:18:35.771 --> 00:18:36.805
- SEE SOMETHING INCREDIBLE HAPPEN.
- 00:18:36.872 --> 00:18:37.339
- HAPPEN. - SHEILA: I TOTALLY AGREE WITH
- 00:18:37.406 --> 00:18:38.307
- - SHEILA: I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT.
- 00:18:38.373 --> 00:18:38.907
- THAT. I THINK THAT'S A HUGE POINT.
- 00:18:38.974 --> 00:18:39.808
- I THINK THAT'S A HUGE POINT. IT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW,
- 00:18:39.875 --> 00:18:41.276
- IT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE BEEN
- 00:18:41.343 --> 00:18:42.411
- MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT A LOT, RECENTLY.
- 00:18:42.477 --> 00:18:44.546
- TALKING ABOUT A LOT, RECENTLY. 'CAUSE OUR SON'S IN GRAD
- 00:18:44.613 --> 00:18:45.948
- 'CAUSE OUR SON'S IN GRAD SCHOOL, NOW.
- 00:18:46.014 --> 00:18:46.448
- BUT, EVEN WHEN HE WENT OFF TO
- 00:18:47.082 --> 00:18:48.450
- BUT, EVEN WHEN HE WENT OFF TO COLLEGE, IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE
- 00:18:48.517 --> 00:18:49.685
- COLLEGE, IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE WHEN I WENT OFF TO COLLEGE.
- 00:18:49.751 --> 00:18:50.285
- WHEN I WENT OFF TO COLLEGE. IT WAS DIFFERENT.
- 00:18:50.352 --> 00:18:51.153
- IT WAS DIFFERENT. AND-- SO, BARRY AND I HAVE HAD
- 00:18:51.220 --> 00:18:52.888
- AND-- SO, BARRY AND I HAVE HAD TO HAVE SOME REAL TALKS.
- 00:18:52.955 --> 00:18:53.855
- TO HAVE SOME REAL TALKS. AND WE SET ASIDE A PERIOD OF
- 00:18:53.922 --> 00:18:55.157
- AND WE SET ASIDE A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE WE FASTED AND
- 00:18:55.224 --> 00:18:57.626
- TIME WHERE WE FASTED AND PRAYED FOR OUR SON.
- 00:18:57.693 --> 00:18:58.727
- PRAYED FOR OUR SON. AND-- 'CAUSE I KNOW HE LOVES
- 00:18:58.794 --> 00:18:59.328
- AND-- 'CAUSE I KNOW HE LOVES GOD, AND I KNOW THAT GOD'S GOT
- 00:18:59.394 --> 00:19:00.896
- GOD, AND I KNOW THAT GOD'S GOT HIS HAND ON HIM, BUT HE'S
- 00:19:00.963 --> 00:19:01.463
- HIS HAND ON HIM, BUT HE'S EXPERIENCING LIFE DIFFERENTLY
- 00:19:01.530 --> 00:19:02.331
- EXPERIENCING LIFE DIFFERENTLY THAN WE DID.
- 00:19:02.397 --> 00:19:05.334
- THAN WE DID. AND, FOR ME, THE BIG THING IS
- 00:19:05.400 --> 00:19:05.968
- AND, FOR ME, THE BIG THING IS TRUSTING GOD...THAT GOD HAS GOT
- 00:19:06.034 --> 00:19:07.436
- TRUSTING GOD...THAT GOD HAS GOT A GOOD, STRONG HOLD.
- 00:19:07.502 --> 00:19:11.306
- I MEAN, CHRIS, IF YOU THINK OF
- 00:19:12.007 --> 00:19:12.574
- I MEAN, CHRIS, IF YOU THINK OF YOUR TWO GIRLS -- I MEAN, THE
- 00:19:12.641 --> 00:19:13.875
- YOUR TWO GIRLS -- I MEAN, THE AMOUNT OF STUFF THAT YOU HAVE
- 00:19:13.942 --> 00:19:17.045
- AMOUNT OF STUFF THAT YOU HAVE POURED INTO THOSE DARLING
- 00:19:17.112 --> 00:19:17.913
- POURED INTO THOSE DARLING GIRLS: THE PEOPLE THEY'VE BEEN
- 00:19:17.980 --> 00:19:20.682
- GIRLS: THE PEOPLE THEY'VE BEEN AROUND, WHERE THEY'VE SEEN GOD
- 00:19:20.749 --> 00:19:22.251
- AROUND, WHERE THEY'VE SEEN GOD MOVE.
- 00:19:22.317 --> 00:19:23.385
- MOVE. I JUST THINK IT'S MAYBE AS
- 00:19:23.452 --> 00:19:24.620
- I JUST THINK IT'S MAYBE AS DR. ANITA SAID -- IT'S GONNA
- 00:19:24.686 --> 00:19:27.289
- DR. ANITA SAID -- IT'S GONNA LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
- 00:19:27.356 --> 00:19:28.657
- LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT. BUT, FOR ME, IT'S LIKE...
- 00:19:28.724 --> 00:19:29.291
- BUT, FOR ME, IT'S LIKE... I MEAN, WHEN CHRISTIAN WENT TO
- 00:19:29.358 --> 00:19:30.192
- I MEAN, WHEN CHRISTIAN WENT TO COLLEGE, FIRST-- AT COLLEGE, I
- 00:19:30.259 --> 00:19:31.293
- COLLEGE, FIRST-- AT COLLEGE, I MEAN, I CRIED FOR A DAY AND A
- 00:19:31.360 --> 00:19:32.694
- MEAN, I CRIED FOR A DAY AND A HALF.
- 00:19:32.761 --> 00:19:33.161
- HALF. I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW...THIS IS
- 00:19:33.228 --> 00:19:34.263
- I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW...THIS IS AWFUL.
- 00:19:34.329 --> 00:19:34.863
- AWFUL. - DR. ROBYN: (LAUGHING)
- 00:19:34.930 --> 00:19:35.864
- - DR. ROBYN: (LAUGHING) YEAH...RIGHT.
- 00:19:35.931 --> 00:19:37.499
- YEAH...RIGHT. - SHEILA: AND, NOW, HE'S IN
- 00:19:37.566 --> 00:19:38.667
- - SHEILA: AND, NOW, HE'S IN GRAD SCHOOL.
- 00:19:38.734 --> 00:19:39.034
- GRAD SCHOOL. BUT IT'S LIKE-- IT'S LIKE
- 00:19:39.101 --> 00:19:40.202
- BUT IT'S LIKE-- IT'S LIKE OFFERING-- IT'S LIKE OFFERING
- 00:19:40.269 --> 00:19:41.803
- OFFERING-- IT'S LIKE OFFERING HIM UP AND SAYING: "LORD, YOU
- 00:19:41.870 --> 00:19:42.638
- HIM UP AND SAYING: "LORD, YOU ARE GOOD, YOU ARE FAITHFUL, YOU
- 00:19:42.704 --> 00:19:44.373
- ARE GOOD, YOU ARE FAITHFUL, YOU ARE TRUSTWORTHY.
- 00:19:44.439 --> 00:19:45.407
- ARE TRUSTWORTHY. YOU KNOW, WE'VE POURED IN
- 00:19:45.474 --> 00:19:47.142
- YOU KNOW, WE'VE POURED IN EVERYTHING WE KNOW TO DO.
- 00:19:47.209 --> 00:19:48.343
- EVERYTHING WE KNOW TO DO. AND, NOW, OUR JOB IS WE WILL BE
- 00:19:48.410 --> 00:19:50.212
- AND, NOW, OUR JOB IS WE WILL BE ON OUR KNEES, AND TRUST THAT
- 00:19:50.279 --> 00:19:51.880
- ON OUR KNEES, AND TRUST THAT GOD IS BIGGER THAN OUR FEARS.
- 00:19:51.947 --> 00:19:53.315
- GOD IS BIGGER THAN OUR FEARS. - NICOLE: YEAH...THAT'S GOOD.
- 00:19:53.382 --> 00:19:53.915
- - NICOLE: YEAH...THAT'S GOOD. - CHRISTINE: I'M WITH YOU.
- 00:19:53.982 --> 00:19:55.017
- - CHRISTINE: I'M WITH YOU. AND I DON'T THINK I'M FREAKING
- 00:19:55.083 --> 00:19:56.251
- AND I DON'T THINK I'M FREAKING OUT, ANITA, AT, YOU KNOW, "WHY
- 00:19:56.318 --> 00:19:58.654
- OUT, ANITA, AT, YOU KNOW, "WHY ARE YOU REACTING TO"--
- 00:19:58.720 --> 00:20:00.856
- ARE YOU REACTING TO"-- I AM SEEING A LOT OF PEOPLE
- 00:20:00.922 --> 00:20:01.790
- I AM SEEING A LOT OF PEOPLE WALK AWAY, AS WELL, WHEN THINGS
- 00:20:01.857 --> 00:20:03.892
- WALK AWAY, AS WELL, WHEN THINGS GET TOUGH.
- 00:20:03.959 --> 00:20:04.493
- GET TOUGH. AND I'M LIKE: THAT IS A DEEP
- 00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:05.761
- AND I'M LIKE: THAT IS A DEEP CONCERN.
- 00:20:05.827 --> 00:20:06.695
- I'M NOT DOING IT DIFFERENT.
- 00:20:07.396 --> 00:20:08.664
- I'M NOT DOING IT DIFFERENT. I MEAN, MY GOSH -- MY WHOLE
- 00:20:08.730 --> 00:20:09.798
- I MEAN, MY GOSH -- MY WHOLE LIFE'S OUT OF THE BOX, AND I
- 00:20:09.865 --> 00:20:10.632
- LIFE'S OUT OF THE BOX, AND I PRAY EVERY GENERATION WILL BE
- 00:20:10.699 --> 00:20:12.234
- PRAY EVERY GENERATION WILL BE DIFFERENT.
- 00:20:12.301 --> 00:20:12.968
- DIFFERENT. BUT THE WRITER TO THE HEBREWS
- 00:20:13.035 --> 00:20:14.202
- BUT THE WRITER TO THE HEBREWS SAYS YOU WILL HAVE NEED OF
- 00:20:14.269 --> 00:20:15.470
- SAYS YOU WILL HAVE NEED OF ENDURANCE, NO MATTER WHICH
- 00:20:15.537 --> 00:20:16.571
- ENDURANCE, NO MATTER WHICH GENERATION YOU ARE, THAT YOU'RE
- 00:20:16.638 --> 00:20:18.340
- GENERATION YOU ARE, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ENDURE, YOU'RE
- 00:20:18.407 --> 00:20:19.007
- GOING TO HAVE TO ENDURE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO BEAR UP UNDER,
- 00:20:19.074 --> 00:20:20.609
- GONNA HAVE TO BEAR UP UNDER, WHETHER-- IN WHATEVER THAT
- 00:20:20.676 --> 00:20:22.177
- WHETHER-- IN WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE IN EACH GENERATION.
- 00:20:22.244 --> 00:20:23.145
- I'M JUST...
- 00:20:24.112 --> 00:20:26.248
- I'M JUST... I'M THINKING AND I'M
- 00:20:26.315 --> 00:20:27.816
- I'M THINKING AND I'M NAVIGATING: IF THE LITMUS TEST
- 00:20:27.883 --> 00:20:31.320
- NAVIGATING: IF THE LITMUS TEST IS "DO I LIKE IT?" OR "DO I
- 00:20:31.386 --> 00:20:33.855
- IS "DO I LIKE IT?" OR "DO I FEEL LIKE IT?" THAT'S NOT GOING
- 00:20:33.922 --> 00:20:35.724
- FEEL LIKE IT?" THAT'S NOT GOING TO CUT IT, I MEAN, AT THE END
- 00:20:35.791 --> 00:20:36.892
- TO CUT IT, I MEAN, AT THE END OF THE DAY.
- 00:20:36.958 --> 00:20:38.393
- OF THE DAY. - NICOLE: THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S
- 00:20:38.460 --> 00:20:39.428
- - NICOLE: THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT.
- 00:20:39.494 --> 00:20:39.928
- RIGHT. - DR. ANITA: YEAH, NO WAY.
- 00:20:39.995 --> 00:20:40.796
- - DR. ANITA: YEAH, NO WAY. NO. DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY NOT
- 00:20:40.862 --> 00:20:41.496
- NO. DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY NOT SAYING THAT.
- 00:20:41.563 --> 00:20:43.532
- SAYING THAT. - CHRISTINE: BECAUSE IF WE'RE
- 00:20:43.598 --> 00:20:44.833
- - CHRISTINE: BECAUSE IF WE'RE STILL SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW,
- 00:20:44.900 --> 00:20:45.701
- STILL SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE SCRIPTURE ON DISCIPLESHIP
- 00:20:45.767 --> 00:20:46.435
- THE SCRIPTURE ON DISCIPLESHIP IS "IF ANY MAN COME AND FOLLOW
- 00:20:46.501 --> 00:20:47.069
- IS "IF ANY MAN COME AND FOLLOW ME, HE MUST DENY HIMSELF, TAKE
- 00:20:47.135 --> 00:20:47.703
- ME, HE MUST DENY HIMSELF, TAKE UP HIS CROSS" -- I MEAN, THESE
- 00:20:47.769 --> 00:20:48.770
- UP HIS CROSS" -- I MEAN, THESE ARE THINGS IN THIS GENERATION
- 00:20:48.837 --> 00:20:49.905
- ARE THINGS IN THIS GENERATION THAT I'M--
- 00:20:49.971 --> 00:20:50.806
- THAT I'M-- - NICOLE: YEAH...IT'S FOREIGN.
- 00:20:50.872 --> 00:20:51.540
- - NICOLE: YEAH...IT'S FOREIGN. - CHRISTINE: --REALLY JUST
- 00:20:51.606 --> 00:20:52.641
- - CHRISTINE: --REALLY JUST WONDERING: HOW DO WE TALK TO A
- 00:20:52.708 --> 00:20:54.343
- WONDERING: HOW DO WE TALK TO A GENERATION -- ABOUT "DENY
- 00:20:54.409 --> 00:20:55.610
- GENERATION -- ABOUT "DENY YOURSELF" -- WHEN EVERY--
- 00:20:55.677 --> 00:20:57.479
- YOURSELF" -- WHEN EVERY-- AND I'M NOT TALKING CHRISTIAN;
- 00:20:57.546 --> 00:20:58.380
- AND I'M NOT TALKING CHRISTIAN; I'M JUST MEANING AS A SOCIETY.
- 00:20:58.447 --> 00:21:00.082
- I'M JUST MEANING AS A SOCIETY. 'CAUSE, THERE IS NOTHING ABOUT
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- 'CAUSE, THERE IS NOTHING ABOUT DENYING YOURSELF, IN THIS
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- DENYING YOURSELF, IN THIS CULTURE.
- 00:21:02.884 --> 00:21:03.518
- CULTURE. I MEAN, YOU TRY TO PREACH A
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- I MEAN, YOU TRY TO PREACH A SERMON--
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- SERMON-- - NICOLE: INSTANT
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- - NICOLE: INSTANT GRATIFICATION.
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- GRATIFICATION. - CHRISTINE: --ON DENY
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- - CHRISTINE: --ON DENY YOURSELF, TAKE UP YOUR CROSS,
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- YOURSELF, TAKE UP YOUR CROSS, AND FOLLOW ME.
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- AND FOLLOW ME. IT'S LIKE EVERYTHING IS:
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- IT'S LIKE EVERYTHING IS: GRATIFY YOURSELF, DROP ANY
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- GRATIFY YOURSELF, DROP ANY INCONVENIENCE, AND FOLLOW YOUR
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- INCONVENIENCE, AND FOLLOW YOUR HEART.
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- HEART. - DR. ROBYN: EXACTLY.
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- - DR. ROBYN: EXACTLY. - CHRISTINE: AND I'M GOING: IF
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- - CHRISTINE: AND I'M GOING: IF THAT IS THE MESSAGE TO A
- 00:21:17.032 --> 00:21:17.899
- THAT IS THE MESSAGE TO A CULTURE, HOW DO WE BRING...THE
- 00:21:17.966 --> 00:21:19.801
- CULTURE, HOW DO WE BRING...THE RIGHT SIDE OF THAT MESSAGE TO
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- RIGHT SIDE OF THAT MESSAGE TO THE CHURCH, WHERE PEOPLE HAVE
- 00:21:22.904 --> 00:21:24.039
- THE CHURCH, WHERE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TOLD, "TO YOUR DETRIMENT,
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- BEEN TOLD, "TO YOUR DETRIMENT, STAY" -- ALL THE NEGATIVE STUFF
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- STAY" -- ALL THE NEGATIVE STUFF THAT WE ALL KNOW, LIKE.
- 00:21:26.875 --> 00:21:27.976
- THAT WE ALL KNOW, LIKE. SO, "HOW DO YOU NOT MESSAGE IT
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- SO, "HOW DO YOU NOT MESSAGE IT THE SAME WAY AS THE CULTURE IS
- 00:21:31.146 --> 00:21:32.547
- THE SAME WAY AS THE CULTURE IS MESSAGING IT?" IS REALLY WHAT I
- 00:21:32.614 --> 00:21:33.582
- MESSAGING IT?" IS REALLY WHAT I THINK I'M TRYING TO ASK.
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- THINK I'M TRYING TO ASK. - DR. ANITA: I THINK I'M
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- - DR. ANITA: I THINK I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT SO MANY
- 00:21:35.751 --> 00:21:39.221
- CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT SO MANY YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE SEEN OF THE
- 00:21:39.287 --> 00:21:41.423
- YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE SEEN OF THE WOMEN OF GOD, IN THEIR LIVES.
- 00:21:41.490 --> 00:21:42.257
- WOMEN OF GOD, IN THEIR LIVES. HAVE THEY SEEN THEIR MOMS
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- HAVE THEY SEEN THEIR MOMS SUFFERING IN WAYS THAT THEY
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- SUFFERING IN WAYS THAT THEY DIDN'T NEED TO AND SAYING IT
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- DIDN'T NEED TO AND SAYING IT WAS FOR CHRIST?
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- WAS FOR CHRIST? HAVE THEY SEEN THEIR MOMS BE
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- HAVE THEY SEEN THEIR MOMS BE CODEPENDENT, OR PUT THEMSELVES
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- CODEPENDENT, OR PUT THEMSELVES LAST SO MUCH THAT THEY NEVER
- 00:21:54.202 --> 00:21:55.470
- LAST SO MUCH THAT THEY NEVER GOT TO BE WHO THEY WERE?
- 00:21:55.537 --> 00:21:57.773
- GOT TO BE WHO THEY WERE? HAVE THEY SEEN THEIR MOMS MAKE
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- HAVE THEY SEEN THEIR MOMS MAKE THIS IMBALANCE A PART OF THEIR
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- THIS IMBALANCE A PART OF THEIR LIVES, AND, NOW, THEY'RE KIND
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- LIVES, AND, NOW, THEY'RE KIND OF PUSHING BACK AGAINST IT?
- 00:22:02.110 --> 00:22:03.545
- OF PUSHING BACK AGAINST IT? AND SO, HOW DID THEY GET THERE?
- 00:22:03.612 --> 00:22:04.946
- WHAT QUESTIONS ARE THEY ASKING?
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- WHAT QUESTIONS ARE THEY ASKING? WHAT DID THEY SEE THAT MAY HAVE
- 00:22:06.548 --> 00:22:08.417
- WHAT DID THEY SEE THAT MAY HAVE MADE THEM ASK THOSE QUESTIONS?
- 00:22:08.483 --> 00:22:09.518
- MADE THEM ASK THOSE QUESTIONS? AND SO, I'M ALL FOR--
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- AND SO, I'M ALL FOR-- LOOK, I KNOW THAT LONGSUFFERING
- 00:22:10.585 --> 00:22:11.720
- LOOK, I KNOW THAT LONGSUFFERING IN REQUIRED IN THIS WALK WITH
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- IN REQUIRED IN THIS WALK WITH GOD.
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- GOD. I AM ALL FOR LONGSUFFERING; I'M
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- I AM ALL FOR LONGSUFFERING; I'M NOT FOR "WRONG-SUFFERING."
- 00:22:15.223 --> 00:22:17.359
- NOT FOR "WRONG-SUFFERING." I NEED YOU TO LONGSUFFER THE
- 00:22:17.426 --> 00:22:18.160
- I NEED YOU TO LONGSUFFER THE RIGHT THING.
- 00:22:18.226 --> 00:22:18.960
- RIGHT THING. AND, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE
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- AND, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE HELPED THEM KNOW THE
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- HELPED THEM KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.
- 00:22:24.266 --> 00:22:25.367
- AND SO, THEY MAY SEE IT ALL AS
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- AND SO, THEY MAY SEE IT ALL AS THIS WALK WITH CHRIST AS THIS
- 00:22:28.103 --> 00:22:30.105
- THIS WALK WITH CHRIST AS THIS LACK OF SUFFERING THAT I
- 00:22:30.172 --> 00:22:31.239
- LACK OF SUFFERING THAT I DON'T WANT.
- 00:22:31.306 --> 00:22:32.574
- DON'T WANT. BUT HAVE WE SHOWN THEM?
- 00:22:32.641 --> 00:22:33.608
- BUT HAVE WE SHOWN THEM? HAVE WE GIVEN THEM STORIES LIKE
- 00:22:33.675 --> 00:22:34.576
- HAVE WE GIVEN THEM STORIES LIKE NICOLE SHARED, LIKE SHEILA
- 00:22:34.643 --> 00:22:37.412
- NICOLE SHARED, LIKE SHEILA SHARED, WHERE THERE'S GONNA BE
- 00:22:37.479 --> 00:22:38.613
- SHARED, WHERE THERE'S GONNA BE TIMES WHERE YOU'RE GONNA WALK
- 00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:39.815
- TIMES WHERE YOU'RE GONNA WALK AWAY FROM SOMETHING AND IT
- 00:22:39.881 --> 00:22:40.882
- AWAY FROM SOMETHING AND IT MIGHT SEEM UNPOPULAR IN THIS
- 00:22:40.949 --> 00:22:42.918
- MIGHT SEEM UNPOPULAR IN THIS SPACE, BUT THAT'S RIGHT FOR
- 00:22:42.984 --> 00:22:44.486
- SPACE, BUT THAT'S RIGHT FOR YOU, AND YOU HAVE GOD WITH YOU
- 00:22:44.553 --> 00:22:45.720
- YOU, AND YOU HAVE GOD WITH YOU STILL?
- 00:22:45.787 --> 00:22:47.289
- STILL? I THINK THAT'S THE THING THAT I
- 00:22:47.355 --> 00:22:48.156
- I THINK THAT'S THE THING THAT I REALLY WANT TO SEE WOMEN EMBRACE
- 00:22:48.223 --> 00:22:49.758
- REALLY WANT TO SEE WOMEN EMBRACE AND I WANNA SEE YOUNG WOMEN
- 00:22:49.825 --> 00:22:50.992
- AND I WANNA SEE YOUNG WOMEN EMBRACE IS THAT WE ARE EQUALLY
- 00:22:51.059 --> 00:22:52.494
- EMBRACE IS THAT WE ARE EQUALLY WILLING TO ENDURE THE RIGHT
- 00:22:52.561 --> 00:22:53.929
- WILLING TO ENDURE THE RIGHT THING.
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- THING. - CHRISTINE: THAT'S GREAT.
- 00:22:57.866 --> 00:22:58.667
- - CHRISTINE: THAT'S GREAT. [DR. ANITA LAUGHS]
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- [DR. ANITA LAUGHS] - DR. ANITA: THE RIGHT THING.
- 00:22:59.401 --> 00:22:59.935
- - DR. ANITA: THE RIGHT THING. AND THAT'S THE QUESTION.
- 00:23:00.001 --> 00:23:00.735
- AND THAT'S THE QUESTION. BECAUSE, YEAH, SOMETIMES,
- 00:23:00.802 --> 00:23:01.303
- BECAUSE, YEAH, SOMETIMES, SCRIPTURE IS SUPER CLEAR: THIS
- 00:23:01.369 --> 00:23:02.337
- SCRIPTURE IS SUPER CLEAR: THIS IS A SIN BEHAVIOR OR NOT A SIN
- 00:23:02.404 --> 00:23:03.505
- IS A SIN BEHAVIOR OR NOT A SIN BEHAVIOR.
- 00:23:03.572 --> 00:23:04.506
- BEHAVIOR. AND, SOMETIMES, SCRIPTURE'S
- 00:23:04.573 --> 00:23:05.674
- AND, SOMETIMES, SCRIPTURE'S SUPER CLEAR, BUT, SOMETIMES,
- 00:23:05.740 --> 00:23:07.375
- SUPER CLEAR, BUT, SOMETIMES, THERE ARE THESE NUANCES, WHERE
- 00:23:07.442 --> 00:23:09.644
- THERE ARE THESE NUANCES, WHERE WOMEN ARE SERVING EVERYONE
- 00:23:09.711 --> 00:23:11.179
- WOMEN ARE SERVING EVERYONE ELSE, TAKING CARE OF EVERYONE
- 00:23:11.246 --> 00:23:12.848
- ELSE, TAKING CARE OF EVERYONE ELSE, DENYING THEMSELVES IN
- 00:23:12.914 --> 00:23:13.782
- ELSE, DENYING THEMSELVES IN WAYS THAT IS NOT FROM GOD, BUT
- 00:23:13.849 --> 00:23:15.684
- WAYS THAT IS NOT FROM GOD, BUT FROM WHAT THE CULTURE IS
- 00:23:15.750 --> 00:23:17.052
- FROM WHAT THE CULTURE IS DEMANDING OF US.
- 00:23:17.118 --> 00:23:18.220
- DEMANDING OF US. AND THEN, WE CONFUSE THOSE TWO
- 00:23:18.286 --> 00:23:19.187
- AND THEN, WE CONFUSE THOSE TWO THINGS.
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- THINGS. AND SO, I WANNA SEE MY
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- AND SO, I WANNA SEE MY DAUGHTER'S GENERATION OF WOMEN
- 00:23:20.655 --> 00:23:22.624
- DAUGHTER'S GENERATION OF WOMEN KNOW THEIR GOD AND REFUSE TO
- 00:23:22.691 --> 00:23:24.459
- KNOW THEIR GOD AND REFUSE TO COME OFF THAT.
- 00:23:24.526 --> 00:23:25.760
- COME OFF THAT. BUT IF THERE ARE TRAPPINGS
- 00:23:25.827 --> 00:23:27.162
- BUT IF THERE ARE TRAPPINGS AROUND THAT THE CULTURE HAS
- 00:23:27.229 --> 00:23:28.363
- AROUND THAT THE CULTURE HAS IMPOSED -- FORGET THAT.
- 00:23:28.430 --> 00:23:28.997
- IMPOSED -- FORGET THAT. I'M GOING WITH GOD.
- 00:23:29.064 --> 00:23:30.432
- I'M GOING WITH GOD. AND, REALLY, I WANT EVERYONE
- 00:23:30.499 --> 00:23:32.334
- AND, REALLY, I WANT EVERYONE LISTENING JUST TO KNOW THAT GOD
- 00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:34.035
- LISTENING JUST TO KNOW THAT GOD HAS THIS -- HE'S GOT YOU! --
- 00:23:34.102 --> 00:23:36.404
- HAS THIS -- HE'S GOT YOU! -- HE'S GOT YOU -- AND, EVEN IF WE
- 00:23:36.471 --> 00:23:38.340
- HE'S GOT YOU -- AND, EVEN IF WE START SOMETHING, AND THEN, IT
- 00:23:38.406 --> 00:23:40.976
- START SOMETHING, AND THEN, IT SHIFTS COURSE AND IT MAY LOOK
- 00:23:41.042 --> 00:23:42.777
- SHIFTS COURSE AND IT MAY LOOK LIKE WE'RE QUITTING OR WE
- 00:23:42.844 --> 00:23:43.478
- LIKE WE'RE QUITTING OR WE DIDN'T FINISH SOMETHING, BUT WE
- 00:23:43.545 --> 00:23:44.546
- DIDN'T FINISH SOMETHING, BUT WE KNOW THAT IT'S NOT SERVING US
- 00:23:44.613 --> 00:23:45.680
- KNOW THAT IT'S NOT SERVING US OR THAT GOD HAS TAKEN US IN
- 00:23:45.747 --> 00:23:47.082
- OR THAT GOD HAS TAKEN US IN ANOTHER DIRECTION, BE STRONG
- 00:23:47.148 --> 00:23:48.483
- ANOTHER DIRECTION, BE STRONG AND OF GOOD COURAGE; THAT EVEN
- 00:23:48.550 --> 00:23:50.318
- AND OF GOOD COURAGE; THAT EVEN IF FROM THE OUTSIDE IT MAY LOOK
- 00:23:50.385 --> 00:23:54.122
- IF FROM THE OUTSIDE IT MAY LOOK TO OTHER PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE
- 00:23:54.189 --> 00:23:55.357
- TO OTHER PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE MISSING IT, IF YOU KNOW WHAT
- 00:23:55.423 --> 00:23:55.991
- MISSING IT, IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE HEARING FROM GOD, FOLLOW
- 00:23:56.057 --> 00:23:57.259
- YOU'RE HEARING FROM GOD, FOLLOW THE VOICE OF THE LORD.
- 00:23:57.325 --> 00:24:00.228
- THE VOICE OF THE LORD. ABSOLUTELY FOLLOW THE VOICE OF
- 00:24:00.295 --> 00:24:00.962
- ABSOLUTELY FOLLOW THE VOICE OF THE LORD.
- 00:24:01.029 --> 00:24:01.863
- THE LORD. HE IS ALWAYS THERE.
- 00:24:01.930 --> 00:24:03.064
- HE IS ALWAYS THERE. AND DON'T BE AFRAID TO MAKE A
- 00:24:03.131 --> 00:24:04.766
- AND DON'T BE AFRAID TO MAKE A MISTAKE.
- 00:24:04.833 --> 00:24:05.967
- MISTAKE. GOD CAN CORRECT FOR OUR
- 00:24:06.034 --> 00:24:07.335
- GOD CAN CORRECT FOR OUR MISTAKES.
- 00:24:07.402 --> 00:24:08.103
- MISTAKES. HE IS NOT SURPRISED WHEN WE
- 00:24:08.169 --> 00:24:09.504
- HE IS NOT SURPRISED WHEN WE MAKE A MISTAKE.
- 00:24:09.571 --> 00:24:10.639
- MAKE A MISTAKE. HE CORRECTS FOR THOSE.
- 00:24:10.705 --> 00:24:11.806
- HE CORRECTS FOR THOSE. BUT BE DETERMINED TO SEE HIS
- 00:24:11.873 --> 00:24:13.842
- BUT BE DETERMINED TO SEE HIS WILL, HIS BEST FOR YOUR LIFE
- 00:24:13.909 --> 00:24:15.310
- WILL, HIS BEST FOR YOUR LIFE EMERGE.
- 00:24:15.377 --> 00:24:16.177
- EMERGE. I THINK THAT THAT MAKES ALL OF
- 00:24:16.244 --> 00:24:17.312
- I THINK THAT THAT MAKES ALL OF THE DIFFERENCE.
- 00:24:17.379 --> 00:24:18.146
- THE DIFFERENCE. NAVIGATING CHANGE IS HARD.
- 00:24:18.213 --> 00:24:19.381
- NAVIGATING CHANGE IS HARD. MAKING CHANGE IS HARD.
- 00:24:19.447 --> 00:24:20.982
- MAKING CHANGE IS HARD. COMPLETING THE CHANGE AS WE
- 00:24:21.049 --> 00:24:22.284
- COMPLETING THE CHANGE AS WE START IT CAN BE HARD.
- 00:24:22.350 --> 00:24:24.920
- START IT CAN BE HARD. BUT GOD IS STRONG ENOUGH.
- 00:24:24.986 --> 00:24:25.687
- BUT GOD IS STRONG ENOUGH. GREATER IS HE THAT IS IN US
- 00:24:25.754 --> 00:24:26.288
- GREATER IS HE THAT IS IN US THAN HE THAT IS IN THE WORLD.
- 00:24:26.354 --> 00:24:28.590
- THAN HE THAT IS IN THE WORLD. SO, I JUST WANNA PRAY FOR US,
- 00:24:28.657 --> 00:24:29.424
- SO, I JUST WANNA PRAY FOR US, REAL QUICK, AND-- THAT YOU'LL
- 00:24:29.491 --> 00:24:33.261
- REAL QUICK, AND-- THAT YOU'LL RECEIVE THIS WORD IN THE WAY
- 00:24:33.328 --> 00:24:33.895
- RECEIVE THIS WORD IN THE WAY THAT YOU NEEDED IT.
- 00:24:33.962 --> 00:24:34.462
- THAT YOU NEEDED IT. FATHER GOD, THANK YOU...THANK
- 00:24:34.529 --> 00:24:36.598
- FATHER GOD, THANK YOU...THANK YOU THAT YOU SEE THE END FROM
- 00:24:36.665 --> 00:24:37.732
- YOU THAT YOU SEE THE END FROM THE BEGINNING.
- 00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:39.467
- THE BEGINNING. AND YOU HAVE A PLAN FOR US.
- 00:24:39.534 --> 00:24:43.838
- AND YOU HAVE A PLAN FOR US. AND YOUR PLANS -- MULTIPLE --
- 00:24:43.905 --> 00:24:44.673
- AND YOUR PLANS -- MULTIPLE -- PLANS FOR US ARE GOOD
- 00:24:44.739 --> 00:24:45.740
- PLANS FOR US ARE GOOD TO PROSPER US.
- 00:24:45.807 --> 00:24:47.776
- TO PROSPER US. AND WE RECEIVE THAT FROM YOU.
- 00:24:47.842 --> 00:24:50.078
- AND WE RECEIVE THAT FROM YOU. WE THANK YOU FOR CARRYING US,
- 00:24:50.145 --> 00:24:51.613
- WE THANK YOU FOR CARRYING US, THROUGH HARDSHIP AND THROUGH
- 00:24:51.680 --> 00:24:52.948
- THROUGH HARDSHIP AND THROUGH JOY.
- 00:24:53.014 --> 00:24:55.183
- JOY. FATHER, LET US CLING TO YOU IN
- 00:24:55.250 --> 00:24:56.084
- FATHER, LET US CLING TO YOU IN HARDSHIP.
- 00:24:56.151 --> 00:24:57.118
- HARDSHIP. LET US PRAISE YOU GREATLY IN
- 00:24:57.185 --> 00:24:58.019
- LET US PRAISE YOU GREATLY IN JOY.
- 00:24:58.086 --> 00:24:58.520
- JOY. LET US KNOW YOU IN ALL AREAS
- 00:24:58.587 --> 00:24:59.955
- LET US KNOW YOU IN ALL AREAS OF OUR LIVES AS WE WALK.
- 00:25:00.021 --> 00:25:03.058
- OF OUR LIVES AS WE WALK. FATHER, IF WE NEED TO MAKE A
- 00:25:03.124 --> 00:25:03.658
- FATHER, IF WE NEED TO MAKE A SHARP LEFT, TELL US.
- 00:25:03.725 --> 00:25:04.726
- SHARP LEFT, TELL US. IF WE NEED TO MAKE A U-TURN,
- 00:25:04.793 --> 00:25:06.094
- IF WE NEED TO MAKE A U-TURN, TELL US.
- 00:25:06.161 --> 00:25:06.962
- TELL US. IF WE NEED TO GET OFF AN EXIT,
- 00:25:07.028 --> 00:25:07.996
- IF WE NEED TO GET OFF AN EXIT, TELL US.
- 00:25:08.063 --> 00:25:09.598
- TELL US. WE WANT TO DO YOUR WILL.
- 00:25:09.664 --> 00:25:11.900
- WE WANT TO DO YOUR WILL. AND WE WANT TO LIVE THE LIFE
- 00:25:11.967 --> 00:25:14.369
- AND WE WANT TO LIVE THE LIFE THAT YOU'VE CALLED US TO.
- 00:25:14.436 --> 00:25:15.203
- THAT YOU'VE CALLED US TO. AND WE BELIEVE THAT THAT LIFE
- 00:25:15.270 --> 00:25:15.837
- AND WE BELIEVE THAT THAT LIFE INCLUDES SACRIFICE, BUT WE ALSO
- 00:25:15.904 --> 00:25:17.339
- INCLUDES SACRIFICE, BUT WE ALSO BELIEVE IT INCLUDES JOY.
- 00:25:17.405 --> 00:25:18.607
- BELIEVE IT INCLUDES JOY. AND WE WANT IT, BOTH.
- 00:25:18.673 --> 00:25:21.209
- AND WE WANT IT, BOTH. IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN.
- 00:25:21.276 --> 00:25:22.978
- IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN. - SHEILA: AMEN.
- 00:25:23.044 --> 00:25:24.079
- - SHEILA: AMEN. SO, SO GOOD.
- 00:25:24.145 --> 00:25:26.181
- SO, SO GOOD. WELL, WE WANNA PRAY WITH YOU
- 00:25:26.247 --> 00:25:28.149
- WELL, WE WANNA PRAY WITH YOU AND FOR YOU.
- 00:25:28.216 --> 00:25:29.317
- AND FOR YOU. PLEASE CONNECT WITH OUR
- 00:25:29.384 --> 00:25:30.552
- PLEASE CONNECT WITH OUR COMMUNITY, ON FACEBOOK OR
- 00:25:30.619 --> 00:25:32.787
- COMMUNITY, ON FACEBOOK OR INSTAGRAM, AT:
- 00:25:32.854 --> 00:25:34.289
- INSTAGRAM, AT: BETTERTOGETHERTV.
- 00:25:34.356 --> 00:25:35.290
- BETTERTOGETHERTV. LET US KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN
- 00:25:35.357 --> 00:25:35.924
- LET US KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR LIFE.
- 00:25:35.991 --> 00:25:36.825
- YOUR LIFE. WE'D LOVE TO JOIN OUR FAITH
- 00:25:36.891 --> 00:25:38.193
- WE'D LOVE TO JOIN OUR FAITH WITH YOURS.
- 00:25:38.259 --> 00:25:40.028
- THANK YOU FOR JOINING US,
- 00:25:40.595 --> 00:25:41.096
- THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, TODAY.
- 00:25:41.162 --> 00:25:42.297
- TODAY. TOMORROW, WE'LL BE TALKING
- 00:25:42.364 --> 00:25:42.864
- TOMORROW, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT WHAT TO DO WHEN OUR
- 00:25:42.931 --> 00:25:43.732
- ABOUT WHAT TO DO WHEN OUR RELATIONSHIPS CHANGE.
- 00:25:43.798 --> 00:25:45.567
- RELATIONSHIPS CHANGE. LEARNING HOW TO WALK WITH EACH
- 00:25:45.634 --> 00:25:46.901
- LEARNING HOW TO WALK WITH EACH OTHER THROUGH NEW STAGES OF
- 00:25:46.968 --> 00:25:48.670
- OTHER THROUGH NEW STAGES OF LIFE ALSO HELP US GROW IN
- 00:25:48.737 --> 00:25:49.771
- LIFE ALSO HELP US GROW IN GRACE.
- 00:25:49.838 --> 00:25:50.805
- GRACE. SO, FOR ALL OF US, WE'LL SEE
- 00:25:50.872 --> 00:25:52.173
- SO, FOR ALL OF US, WE'LL SEE YOU THEN.
- 00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:53.708
- YOU THEN. [MUSIC]
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