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Better Together | The Blessing of Radical Faith | Better Together Episode 1167 | May 19, 2026
- Even the smallest amount of faith can lead to a blessing
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- And spiritual growth.
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- When we seek the heart of god, we learn that faith is the
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- Currency of heaven.
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- Come on, let's talk about it.
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- ♪♪
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- So i want to talk today about this idea of radical faith.
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- And when we think of radical faith, we think of something
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- That is just beyond what we could even think or imagine.
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- And i immediately was drawn to
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- The story of the call of elisha.
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- So, you know, the prophet elijah, he is running.
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- He's fleeing from jezebel.
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- He goes up to mount horeb.
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- And, you know, he's talking to the lord, and he's basically
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- Lamenting to the lord that he's the only prophet that's left.
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- And god is like, you're really not.
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- But he tells him, he says, god says to him, this is in first
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- Kings 19, verse 16, he tells him to go and anoint elisha,
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- Son of shaphat from able mehola to succeed you as prophet.
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- So he gets this instruction from god.
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- And then he goes and he finds elisha, and he finds elisha
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- Plowing with 12 yoke of oxen.
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- And he himself was driving the 12th pair.
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- It says, elijah went up to him, threw his cloak around him.
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- And elisha then left his oxen and ran after elijah.
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- He says, let me kiss my father and mother goodbye, and then
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- I will come with you.
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- So elijah says, go ahead, go ahead and do that.
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- So elijah goes, and he kisses his mother and his father, and
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- He's like, all right, love y'all.
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- Peace out.
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- It says, then he took his yoke of oxen, slaughtered them,
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- Burned the plowing equipment to cook the meat, and gave it
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- To the people. and they ate.
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- Then he set out to follow elijah and became his servant.
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- Elijah literally burned every bridge he had to the past.
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- He was like, all right, god is calling me to this place.
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- I can't go back.
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- And when i think about what radical faith is, i think it is
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- A type of faith where you basically have no plan b.
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- Yeah. it's the type of faith where it's like, i am all in.
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- And that's also a type of faith.
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- That is so scary for so many of us, because the question is, if
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- This doesn't work out, what do i do?
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- But we know that faith is not about if it doesn't work out.
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- Faith is i'm following the god who does not fail.
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- Right. in my case, i've had so many experiences where god
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- Called me into something, into
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- A place that i did not understand.
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- And as a matter of fact, a year
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- Ago i went into full-time ministry.
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- I spent 20 years in executive leadership in corporate
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- America, loved what i was doing, worked for a bunch of
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- Different big companies, and the lord had been working on me
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- Since probably 2021.
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- He was like, i want you to go into full-time ministry.
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- And i was like, that sounds great.
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- But this paycheck,
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- I like this paycheck.
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- I like my stocks, i like the role i have, and god
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- Orchestrated things to where i
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- Basically had to make a decision.
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- Like, i could not do both anymore.
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- I could not do ministry and
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- Leadership in corporate america.
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- He was like, you have to pick, are you going to follow me or
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- Are you going to stay tethered to these companies?
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- Well, god is so funny because he set it up to where i kind of
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- Didn't have a choice.
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- Like he gave me a choice, but i kind of didn't have a choice.
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- And so i decided to follow him.
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- But to be honest, i didn't follow him because i trusted
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- That everything would work out.
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- I just followed him because i
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- Didn't think i had a plan b. right.
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- And what the lord did is because he knew my heart, he
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- Knew that i wasn't totally in.
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- He ended up stripping away like everything from me.
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- I'm talking about like friendships.
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- I'm talking about business opportunities.
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- I'm talking about things that i thought i could count on.
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- He ended up stripping them all away for me because he was
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- Like, nona, what you've been calling faith in me has
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- Actually been faith in you.
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- Mhm. like, you've had faith in
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- Your abilities, your connections.
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- You have had faith in your
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- Platform and your reach, he said,
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- So i'm going to strip everything away.
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- Forced faith.
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- Literally, he was like, i'm gonna force your faith.
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- And it reminded me of this story with elisha because it
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- Was like, although elisha made the decision to burn the oxen
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- And all that, god did it for me. yeah.
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- He did it for me because he was like, i'm calling you to a
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- Place that's going to require a level of faith that you've
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- Never had to exercise before.
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- But because of the assignment i've had on your life since
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- Before you were formed in the womb, i have to do this.
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- And so sometimes radical faith isn't even a choice.
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- Sometimes radical faith is thrust upon you.
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- And i go back to the so-called hall of faith in hebrews.
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- And it's interesting because, you know, we're told about
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- Moses and the faith that he had and noah and abraham
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- And all these people.
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- But in hebrews 11, verse 13, it
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- Says something very fascinating.
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- It says, all these people were
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- Still living by faith when they died.
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- Mhm.
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- They did not receive the things promised.
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- They only saw them and welcomed them from a distance.
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- Wow. how amazing is it to have the type of faith where you
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- Don't even get to see the manifestation of the promise,
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- But you believe god enough to follow him anyway?
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- Yeah. and i, i want us to talk about that today.
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- That's huge. it's like, it is huge.
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- The type of faith where you you're not even
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- Going to see the thing.
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- But you know what god said, so you're going to obey him and
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- You're going to follow him and
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- You're just going to trust the results.
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- Have you ever had experiences like that?
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- Do you know what that reminds me of?
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- It reminds me of i read this book, and it was all on the
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- Fascinating cathedrals that
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- Have been built around the world.
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- And there was one in france that's just stunning.
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- And the story in it was of this guy who's a carpenter.
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- He's doing the woodwork and way up on the top,
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- He's carving this tiny bird.
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- And it was perfect.
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- And somebody said to him, why
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- Are you spending time with that?
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- Nobody's going to see that.
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- And his thing was, god sees. yeah.
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- You know, i think there's times when we're called by
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- Faith to do something that god
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- Is the only one that says, yeah.
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- Yes. i see, i see that.
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- Yeah.
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- But the fact that that's included in the faith chapter,
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- And that's credited to them as faith that they kept-- because
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- So often we think, well, i believed
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- For something that didn't happen.
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- So what was wrong? right.
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- What happened to my faith?
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- I didn't have enough faith.
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- But maybe having enough faith is just keeping your eyes fixed
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- On jesus and keeping doing the thing he's told you to do,
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- Whether you get the results you want or not.
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- I'm going to be honest with you.
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- When i read through the stories of the many people that are
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- Named in the hall of faith, i am simply in awe of the fact
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- That they followed god into a place that they frankly would
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- Never even see the promise of, but they believed that god was
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- Good, and they believed that god was faithful, even though
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- They would not see the promise.
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- And so i think that if we want to live that type of life, if
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- We want to have radical faith, then we have to become the kind
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- Of people that trust god, even though we may not see the
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- Manifestation of what we're
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- Trusting god for in our lifetime.
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- It may be generational, it may be in our children, it may be
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- In our neighbors.
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- It may be in other people
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- We may never meet.
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- But we know that god is going to be faithful to the promise
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- That he gave us.
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- I love that, and i
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- Think sometimes we see faith as a performance.
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- And if we don't see the right results, that perhaps it's
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- Because we're failing in faith.
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- Um, and so oftentimes we are pressuring ourselves to have
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- Greater faith, not because of a greater love for jesus, not
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- Because of a greater trust in jesus, but because we so want
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- That better result.
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- We so want to see, um, our
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- Agenda, personal agendas fulfilled.
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- And i love that chapter
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- Um, because, um, it says, you know, i mean, just to continue
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- What you were reading, it says in verse 16, but they now
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- Desire a better place, a heavenly one.
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- Therefore god is not ashamed to be called their god, for he has
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- Prepared a city for them.
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- Yeah. um, and it says in 38,
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- The world was not worthy of them.
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- Yep. they wandered in deserts and on mountains, hiding in
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- Caves and holes in the ground.
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- Like to me, that is so humbling and holy that faith is not
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- About just the results.
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- It's about the father's heart.
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- You know, it's like, what is the reward of faith?
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- It's just the delight of god that he just, you know, that
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- He's just values it.
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- He values our faith, you know, and oftentimes we measure our
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- Faith by what we get from it instead of the one who's
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- Pleased from it. mhm.
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- You know, but here it says the
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- World was not worthy of these people.
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- But it's so funny because i think oftentimes as christians,
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- We love testimonies.
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- I love testimonies.
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- I prayed and then this happened. exactly.
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- So many of our testimonies was it looks like
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- I, i went to jesus and i didn't have this.
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- Now i have this. yes.
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- And that's usually the testimony that we give out.
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- So oftentimes when we see people without the fruit that
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- They've been contending for, without the results, without
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- The breakthrough, it's easy to feel like, well, maybe you
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- Should believe more.
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- Yeah. you know, or what if they were to
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- Believe to believe? yeah.
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- What if the faith is for the lord along with the
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- Victory that comes with it?
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- It's just fascinating to me.
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- As i was reading back through this, even this morning, i was
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- Just like all of these people,
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- So you get down to even verse 39 where it ends,
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- These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them
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- Received what had been promised since god had planned something
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- Better for us, so that only together with us would they
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- Be made perfect.
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- I thought that was fascinating.
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- It wasn't that this hall of fame of faith was because these
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- People, they prayed and they
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- Received and they did the thing.
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- It was because they believed and they didn't receive.
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- Right. that generations later.
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- Yes. and they didn't receive because there was something
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- That god was doing even greater. yeah.
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- That actually was very convicting for me to be like,
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- Man, is my faith
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- Only to the extent that if i receive it, then i'm like,
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- Okay, it worked? yeah.
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- Or is it god, i didn't receive it,
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- And yet i know you're working all things together?
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- God, i didn't receive it.
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- And i know that even what the evil, the enemy may have
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- Meant for evil, god, you still mean for good.
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- I may never see it. right?
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- But i'm still going to follow you.
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- Yes. that was so convicting.
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- Many people pursue the hand of god.
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- But i'm telling you, the
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- Prosperity comes from his heart.
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- If you want the fullness of god's blessing, go after
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- The heart of god.
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- And when you go after the heart of god, it always
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- Comes with his hand.
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- I mean, when you realize your your purpose here in the earth.
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- Yeah. like i'm not here to bring glory to me.
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- No. but i'm here to serve a higher purpose.
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- It's like, god, i am here for you.
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- So what is it that i need in the earth to fulfill my
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- Assignment right now, right?
- 00:11:31.147 --> 00:11:33.015
- I think about how mike and i have set up all of these
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- Different policies for my grandkids.
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- There are policies and money that they have spent
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- That i'll never see.
- 00:11:41.757 --> 00:11:43.225
- It's like, but why?
- 00:11:43.225 --> 00:11:44.493
- I could take that money and spend it on myself and enjoy it
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- And live up my life now, you know, do what i want to do.
- 00:11:48.063 --> 00:11:52.301
- But it's like, again, going back to what you were talking
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- About in the other show about building up this, this legacy
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- For, you know, another generation. there are some
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- Things that you will do or things that you will pray that
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- You will never see, but the next generation will.
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- Can we talk about the prayer?
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- Because i think that's the part that we miss.
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- Mhm. i want you to talk more about the prayers, because that
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- Is an inheritance.
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- You may not have stuff.
- 00:12:18.394 --> 00:12:20.396
- The effectual fervent prayers of the righteous avail much.
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- Can you talk more about that?
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- I mean, even the bible talks about how our prayers in
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- Revelation talks about it's like an aroma.
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- They go up as vows before the lord.
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- And so they're always living.
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- They are always breathing.
- 00:12:34.844 --> 00:12:36.545
- So when you think that, you know, what you have petitioned
- 00:12:36.545 --> 00:12:40.316
- God for will never be manifested, it will.
- 00:12:40.316 --> 00:12:44.086
- I think about my son.
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- I know my son is called to pastor.
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- I know that without a shadow of a doubt, whether he
- 00:12:48.791 --> 00:12:51.393
- Knows that or not. he will.
- 00:12:51.393 --> 00:12:53.028
- You know, but he sees it in other ways.
- 00:12:53.028 --> 00:12:55.865
- But i've even settled to the point where god,
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- If i don't see it in my lifetime, i know that's
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- What he will do. yeah.
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- And so my satisfaction comes out of knowing what i
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- Have prayed and petitioned god about and what i know god has
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- Shown me about what's
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- On his life. i think that's prosperity.
- 00:13:12.915 --> 00:13:16.919
- You know, that's when you can have the true peace of god,
- 00:13:16.919 --> 00:13:20.256
- Regardless of what you see,
- 00:13:20.256 --> 00:13:22.458
- Keep your eyes focused on what you have prayed and what you
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- Have been shown by god.
- 00:13:25.928 --> 00:13:28.364
- It's that for me.
- 00:13:28.364 --> 00:13:29.665
- But yeah, i think if people really get into prayer,
- 00:13:29.665 --> 00:13:32.368
- It's like, god, i've asked you.
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- So regardless if i see it or not, and my life and my
- 00:13:34.203 --> 00:13:38.774
- Testimony is not based upon somebody else's life and
- 00:13:38.774 --> 00:13:42.311
- Testimony, that's when it becomes radical.
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- When i even if i don't see it,
- 00:13:44.413 --> 00:13:46.782
- I go to the grave still knowing.
- 00:13:46.782 --> 00:13:48.684
- I'm going to go to the grave--
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- It's going to happen.
- 00:13:49.485 --> 00:13:51.420
- One of the hardest things, i think, is to keep praying and
- 00:13:51.420 --> 00:13:53.956
- Keep believing when you haven't seen an answer to your prayer.
- 00:13:53.956 --> 00:13:57.326
- One of my fondest memories from my childhood growing up in
- 00:13:57.326 --> 00:14:00.262
- Scotland was this darling man in our church.
- 00:14:00.262 --> 00:14:03.399
- Um, and every tuesday night i would go to our prayer meeting
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- And angus would be there.
- 00:14:06.435 --> 00:14:07.870
- And he prayed every single tuesday night for his wife.
- 00:14:07.870 --> 00:14:11.607
- And he had become a christian after they got married.
- 00:14:11.607 --> 00:14:14.276
- And she hadn't.
- 00:14:14.276 --> 00:14:15.444
- And she was a lovely woman, but she just didn't see
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- Any need for jesus.
- 00:14:17.913 --> 00:14:19.615
- And i remember asking him once because he prayed week after
- 00:14:19.615 --> 00:14:23.485
- Week after week, months, years for his wife.
- 00:14:23.485 --> 00:14:27.389
- And i remember saying to him, angus, do you ever wonder why
- 00:14:27.389 --> 00:14:29.825
- God hasn't answered your prayer yet?
- 00:14:29.825 --> 00:14:32.194
- And he was quiet for a minute, and then he said, he's never
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- Failed me yet, lass.
- 00:14:35.030 --> 00:14:36.265
- I don't think he'll start now.
- 00:14:36.265 --> 00:14:38.200
- But what i discovered is i went off to seminary, and when i
- 00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:40.636
- Came back for christmas, angus had gone home to be with jesus,
- 00:14:40.636 --> 00:14:44.006
- And it was at his memorial service that his wife
- 00:14:44.006 --> 00:14:47.109
- Gave her life to jesus.
- 00:14:47.109 --> 00:14:48.911
- And that helped me understand,
- 00:14:48.911 --> 00:14:50.679
- A lifetime is not too long to pray.
- 00:14:50.679 --> 00:14:52.681
- If you've been praying, keep going.
- 00:14:52.681 --> 00:14:54.683
- Don't give up.
- 00:14:54.683 --> 00:14:55.617
- Not one prayer has fallen to the floor.
- 00:14:55.617 --> 00:14:58.287
- God hears them all.
- 00:14:58.287 --> 00:15:00.723
- Some of us think that we do not have faith, and god has
- 00:15:00.723 --> 00:15:04.893
- Given us faith.
- 00:15:04.893 --> 00:15:06.061
- So your radical faith may be believing god for food.
- 00:15:06.061 --> 00:15:09.898
- Your radical faith may be believing god for a husband
- 00:15:09.898 --> 00:15:13.168
- Or wife or whatever.
- 00:15:13.168 --> 00:15:15.104
- But let me tell you something.
- 00:15:15.104 --> 00:15:16.705
- God will always take care of you.
- 00:15:16.705 --> 00:15:19.908
- All you have to do is to seek him and he will take care of
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- Your needs today.
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- God created us to be in community and we want you
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- To join ours.
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- Faith is not a one and done type of a thing.
- 00:15:53.043 --> 00:15:57.047
- It truly requires cultivation.
- 00:15:57.047 --> 00:15:58.848
- It requires nourishment and the way that i grow my faith and
- 00:15:58.848 --> 00:16:03.153
- Nourish my faith is i'm very intentional about the time that
- 00:16:03.153 --> 00:16:05.889
- I spend in the presence of the lord.
- 00:16:05.889 --> 00:16:08.792
- There is a promise that's made in psalm 91, that he who dwells
- 00:16:08.792 --> 00:16:12.162
- In the secret place of the most high shall abide under the
- 00:16:12.162 --> 00:16:14.631
- Shadow of the almighty.
- 00:16:14.631 --> 00:16:15.999
- And that requires actually kind of living and settling and
- 00:16:15.999 --> 00:16:20.003
- Staying in the presence of god.
- 00:16:20.003 --> 00:16:21.871
- I believe that if you can build that practice into your daily
- 00:16:21.871 --> 00:16:25.108
- Rhythms, you will find that you experience the joy of the lord
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- And the peace of the lord and the goodness of the lord, even
- 00:16:28.645 --> 00:16:31.548
- In the midst of chaos and confusion and fear.
- 00:16:31.548 --> 00:16:34.084
- But you have to make it an intentional practice of
- 00:16:34.084 --> 00:16:36.886
- Dwelling in the presence of the most high.
- 00:16:36.886 --> 00:16:39.422
- I saw that in my mom's life in a radical way when we were
- 00:16:43.026 --> 00:16:45.929
- Talking about radical faith because, um, my dad, before his
- 00:16:45.929 --> 00:16:50.934
- Brain injury, he had the most amazing voice.
- 00:16:50.934 --> 00:16:53.903
- He, he was an incredible singer.
- 00:16:53.903 --> 00:16:55.905
- In fact, when i was in new york a couple of years ago, um,
- 00:16:55.905 --> 00:16:59.876
- Speaking, i think with doctor david jeremiah,
- 00:16:59.876 --> 00:17:02.045
- This gentleman came up and said to me, i gave my life to christ
- 00:17:02.045 --> 00:17:04.848
- In scotland one night listening to your father sing.
- 00:17:04.848 --> 00:17:07.150
- Oh, my goodness.
- 00:17:07.150 --> 00:17:08.418
- And it was like, i just wanted to follow this guy because
- 00:17:08.418 --> 00:17:09.986
- I haven't, you know--
- 00:17:09.986 --> 00:17:11.221
- Tell me more, tell me more.
- 00:17:11.221 --> 00:17:12.522
- But i remember my mom telling me when i was not-- a few years
- 00:17:12.522 --> 00:17:16.359
- Ago before she passed, that my dad felt there was a call on
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- His life to ministry.
- 00:17:19.963 --> 00:17:21.231
- And my mom wanted to be a teacher.
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- She wanted to teach the word.
- 00:17:23.233 --> 00:17:24.501
- But things happened in our family,
- 00:17:24.501 --> 00:17:26.970
- You know, my father then died by suicide.
- 00:17:26.970 --> 00:17:29.372
- My mom had to withdraw any thoughts of teaching.
- 00:17:29.372 --> 00:17:32.075
- She had to take care of three
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- Children under the age of seven.
- 00:17:33.176 --> 00:17:35.178
- So she said that what she would do at night is the three of us--
- 00:17:35.178 --> 00:17:38.281
- I have a brother and a sister, and we all responded
- 00:17:38.281 --> 00:17:40.450
- Differently to our changed circumstances.
- 00:17:40.450 --> 00:17:42.919
- My sister became kind of insular and my brother was too
- 00:17:42.919 --> 00:17:45.655
- Little to really understand.
- 00:17:45.655 --> 00:17:47.557
- I was the one that seemed to be the most damaged, if you like.
- 00:17:47.557 --> 00:17:51.995
- I walked in my sleep till i was 18 years old, so she would come
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- Upstairs at night and lay hands on me and say, lord, for this
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- One, this least likely to succeed, i give her to you
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- And i, and we pass on the blessing.
- 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:07.477
- Pass on the blessing of frank.
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- I pass on the blessing you put on me.
- 00:18:09.245 --> 00:18:11.080
- And it was amazing to me not so long ago, maybe a year before
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- My mom passed, when she said to me, if you knew the way that in
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- Your generation that god has answered the prayers that my
- 00:18:19.889 --> 00:18:22.859
- Generation prayed for and
- 00:18:22.859 --> 00:18:24.861
- Didn't get to see, but now we're--
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- And i think i'm thinking of people out there right now, you
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- Know, who are single moms or people who are living in very,
- 00:18:29.232 --> 00:18:31.801
- You know, limited--
- 00:18:31.801 --> 00:18:33.069
- I was brought up by a single mom on a very limited budget.
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- And i lived a rich life.
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- Yeah. because of her faith and
- 00:18:36.773 --> 00:18:38.007
- Trust in god changed everything.
- 00:18:38.007 --> 00:18:41.110
- I think one of the greatest things that you want as a mom
- 00:18:41.110 --> 00:18:44.113
- Or as a dad is that you want your children to love jesus the
- 00:18:44.113 --> 00:18:48.384
- Way that you do, or even more.
- 00:18:48.384 --> 00:18:51.120
- I remember after my father's death, my mom prayed two
- 00:18:51.120 --> 00:18:54.557
- Prayers that were very specific.
- 00:18:54.557 --> 00:18:57.093
- She prayed them every day and i only found that out later,
- 00:18:57.093 --> 00:18:59.495
- Later in life.
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- But she prayed that she would see all three of us in our
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- Desired profession,
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- Whatever god, whoever door god had opened that should see each
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- One of us established.
- 00:19:08.071 --> 00:19:09.539
- But the other prayer was that you'd see each one of us come
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- To in relationship with jesus.
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- And that's one of the greatest
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- Gifts that we can give our children.
- 00:19:15.712 --> 00:19:17.347
- When christian was just-- i mean, he's, gosh, he's 29 now.
- 00:19:17.347 --> 00:19:20.717
- I can hardly believe that.
- 00:19:20.717 --> 00:19:21.985
- But when he was just a very wee baby every time, even when i
- 00:19:21.985 --> 00:19:25.321
- Was folding his clothes in the laundry, i would tuck prayers
- 00:19:25.321 --> 00:19:27.890
- Into his clothes, i would tuck prayers.
- 00:19:27.890 --> 00:19:29.892
- And when i pulled his socks, i would tuck prayers in, god,
- 00:19:29.892 --> 00:19:32.495
- Guard his feet where he goes
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- When i would fold his little shirts,
- 00:19:34.097 --> 00:19:35.698
- Lord, protect his heart.
- 00:19:35.698 --> 00:19:37.166
- It's a beautiful thing to be able to live out your faith.
- 00:19:37.166 --> 00:19:39.902
- But what i discovered with children is they're much more
- 00:19:39.902 --> 00:19:43.172
- Convinced by how you live than by what you say.
- 00:19:43.172 --> 00:19:46.376
- And when you live out your faith in a way that speaks to
- 00:19:46.376 --> 00:19:50.079
- Them, that becomes infectious.
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- Actually, when you talk about your mom, it reminds me of mine
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- And my mom.
- 00:19:56.286 --> 00:19:57.553
- She, um, came to faith, like probably in her like early 40s,
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- Late 30s. wow.
- 00:20:04.694 --> 00:20:06.996
- Um, when she became a believer, i mean, she became an
- 00:20:06.996 --> 00:20:10.500
- Intercessor, you know, and, and, um, i remember once she
- 00:20:10.500 --> 00:20:14.937
- Said, you know, i forgot i, i accepted christ when i was a
- 00:20:14.937 --> 00:20:19.208
- Teenager and i'm like, what? you know, and she's like, but i
- 00:20:19.208 --> 00:20:24.047
- Didn't know what i was doing, but i did it.
- 00:20:24.047 --> 00:20:26.549
- And, you know, i didn't know what i was accepting,
- 00:20:26.549 --> 00:20:28.751
- So she did walk into salvation later on.
- 00:20:28.751 --> 00:20:31.954
- But what's interesting, so i asked her how and she went
- 00:20:31.954 --> 00:20:35.191
- To the billy graham-- oh, wow.
- 00:20:35.191 --> 00:20:37.527
- Rallies in korea. wow.
- 00:20:37.527 --> 00:20:40.697
- And he would preach.
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- And, um, i remember, and i'm probably paraphrasing
- 00:20:42.165 --> 00:20:45.802
- Butchering this, but i remember there was a quote where billy
- 00:20:45.802 --> 00:20:48.971
- Graham said, if like just a few percentage of the people that
- 00:20:48.971 --> 00:20:53.576
- Came up to the altar actually did get saved,
- 00:20:53.576 --> 00:20:56.446
- I would consider the successful. or something along those lines.
- 00:20:56.446 --> 00:21:00.650
- My mom was one of those where she like went up, didn't really
- 00:21:00.650 --> 00:21:03.986
- Like know what she was doing, and she just went up and just
- 00:21:03.986 --> 00:21:07.457
- Was like, this is a good idea.
- 00:21:07.457 --> 00:21:08.891
- And then she just-- and then her life just went back to
- 00:21:08.891 --> 00:21:11.527
- What it was, right?
- 00:21:11.527 --> 00:21:13.096
- Never went to church, didn't pray, didn't-- you know?
- 00:21:13.096 --> 00:21:15.398
- Yeah. and i think when faith is all about us, it's not really
- 00:21:15.398 --> 00:21:20.770
- The faith god is looking for. when it's not about believing
- 00:21:20.770 --> 00:21:24.207
- That god will give me a, you know, three storey house or
- 00:21:24.207 --> 00:21:28.144
- It's believing that god will get me new shoes.
- 00:21:28.144 --> 00:21:30.680
- You know, it's like, um, but it's a generational thing, you
- 00:21:30.680 --> 00:21:34.851
- Know, and it has to have eternity in mind, or else
- 00:21:34.851 --> 00:21:38.755
- Hebrews 11, that hall of faith is it's technically about those
- 00:21:38.755 --> 00:21:43.659
- That lost everything on earth
- 00:21:43.659 --> 00:21:46.529
- But gained everything in eternity.
- 00:21:46.529 --> 00:21:49.332
- And so we have to be believers that believe that jesus is
- 00:21:49.332 --> 00:21:54.036
- Coming back, that he is coming
- 00:21:54.036 --> 00:21:56.406
- Back, that there is an eternity.
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- And you are choosing today where you're
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- Spending your eternity.
- 00:22:01.744 --> 00:22:03.212
- You know, and i think sometimes we get so caught up in trying
- 00:22:03.212 --> 00:22:06.816
- To believe for the now and trying to build our houses here
- 00:22:06.816 --> 00:22:10.720
- Now, trying to root ourselves here now, trying to create our
- 00:22:10.720 --> 00:22:14.257
- White picket fence dreams
- 00:22:14.257 --> 00:22:15.758
- Now, when actually god is
- 00:22:15.758 --> 00:22:18.027
- Thinking about things eternally.
- 00:22:18.027 --> 00:22:20.029
- And faith is an eternal concept.
- 00:22:20.029 --> 00:22:24.500
- In order to develop a kingdom mindset in our faith, instead
- 00:22:24.500 --> 00:22:27.770
- Of just focusing on the now, um, it's really important to
- 00:22:27.770 --> 00:22:32.575
- Remind ourselves about eternity.
- 00:22:32.575 --> 00:22:35.578
- I think one of the privileges that we don't realize that we
- 00:22:35.578 --> 00:22:39.582
- Have, especially if you are a certain range of age, is you
- 00:22:39.582 --> 00:22:45.922
- Get to constantly look forward.
- 00:22:45.922 --> 00:22:48.658
- And we don't really think about what's beyond the end.
- 00:22:48.658 --> 00:22:53.329
- We don't think about what happens after death and where
- 00:22:53.329 --> 00:22:57.934
- Our souls were will eternally dwell.
- 00:22:57.934 --> 00:23:01.337
- Right? and so i would say consider eternity.
- 00:23:01.337 --> 00:23:05.107
- Just even take two minutes to think and imagine eternity and
- 00:23:05.107 --> 00:23:10.480
- What that will feel like, what that will look like.
- 00:23:10.480 --> 00:23:13.182
- And it will really instigate this desire for a kingdom
- 00:23:13.182 --> 00:23:18.287
- Mindset instead of just limiting ourselves to the now.
- 00:23:18.287 --> 00:23:23.192
- Many people think that faith is you trusting me, like you have
- 00:23:23.192 --> 00:23:27.763
- Faith if you trust me.
- 00:23:27.763 --> 00:23:28.931
- He's like, but i'm god whether you trust me or not.
- 00:23:28.931 --> 00:23:32.535
- He said, faith is me being able to trust you, that when i speak
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- You will obey. that is faith.
- 00:23:37.406 --> 00:23:40.142
- And that's why when we look at all of these people in this
- 00:23:40.142 --> 00:23:43.279
- Hall of faith, the thread that
- 00:23:43.279 --> 00:23:45.214
- Ties them together is obedience. right.
- 00:23:45.214 --> 00:23:48.017
- It's not that god was sovereign.
- 00:23:48.017 --> 00:23:49.685
- God is sovereign regardless of
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- Whether people trust him or not.
- 00:23:50.786 --> 00:23:52.955
- But it's like obedience, even when you may not see the fruit
- 00:23:52.955 --> 00:23:57.560
- Of what you're obeying god for, that is faith.
- 00:23:57.560 --> 00:24:01.063
- Yeah. what would you say to anybody
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- Watching right now who thinks,
- 00:24:03.032 --> 00:24:04.000
- Okay, i want to have more faith? yes.
- 00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:06.969
- You know, how do i grow my faith?
- 00:24:06.969 --> 00:24:09.505
- I mean, to me, you start where you are.
- 00:24:09.505 --> 00:24:11.741
- You start absolutely-- what can you pray?
- 00:24:11.741 --> 00:24:13.743
- What can you believe for?
- 00:24:13.743 --> 00:24:14.744
- I don't think it begins with great strength.
- 00:24:14.744 --> 00:24:16.112
- It just-- no.
- 00:24:16.112 --> 00:24:17.046
- It just begins, i think, with hunger.
- 00:24:17.046 --> 00:24:19.248
- Yes. yeah.
- 00:24:19.248 --> 00:24:20.683
- I'm hungry for the word of god.
- 00:24:20.683 --> 00:24:23.653
- I'm hungry for something more than what i have.
- 00:24:23.653 --> 00:24:27.924
- So i want to explain spiritual hunger, but i want to explain
- 00:24:27.924 --> 00:24:31.127
- It in the context of physical hunger.
- 00:24:31.127 --> 00:24:33.496
- So when we are hungry physically, there is quite
- 00:24:33.496 --> 00:24:37.400
- Literally a physical sensation of yearning for food.
- 00:24:37.400 --> 00:24:42.471
- We know that there is discomfort in our stomach.
- 00:24:42.471 --> 00:24:45.141
- Our digestive system is unsettled.
- 00:24:45.141 --> 00:24:47.743
- We may even start to experience headaches because maybe there
- 00:24:47.743 --> 00:24:51.681
- Are issues with the amount of nutrients in our blood, and so
- 00:24:51.681 --> 00:24:54.784
- We're not feeling very healthy.
- 00:24:54.784 --> 00:24:57.053
- We will have physical symptoms.
- 00:24:57.053 --> 00:24:58.421
- Well, when you hunger spiritually, you will have
- 00:24:58.421 --> 00:25:00.957
- Spiritual symptoms as well.
- 00:25:00.957 --> 00:25:02.625
- There will be a level of discontentment and discomfort.
- 00:25:02.625 --> 00:25:05.995
- You maybe will feel unsettled.
- 00:25:05.995 --> 00:25:07.863
- You may start to be more disposed to things like anxiety
- 00:25:07.863 --> 00:25:12.335
- And restlessness and depression.
- 00:25:12.335 --> 00:25:14.737
- When you have those symptoms similar to when you have
- 00:25:14.737 --> 00:25:17.640
- Symptoms of physical hunger, you have to attend to them by
- 00:25:17.640 --> 00:25:21.811
- Feeding on the word of god, resting in the goodness of god,
- 00:25:21.811 --> 00:25:26.482
- Dwelling in the presence of god.
- 00:25:26.482 --> 00:25:28.818
- That's how we satiate our spiritual hunger.
- 00:25:28.818 --> 00:25:32.121
- So jesus says, the faith the size of a mustard seed--
- 00:25:32.121 --> 00:25:35.191
- Well, you can't even see a mustard seed without a
- 00:25:35.191 --> 00:25:37.560
- Magnifying glass hardly.
- 00:25:37.560 --> 00:25:39.395
- And it's the tiniest seed, but it's alive.
- 00:25:39.395 --> 00:25:43.766
- Yeah. and so jesus compares.
- 00:25:43.766 --> 00:25:46.202
- So that's just, the kingdom of god is so, so what we don't
- 00:25:46.202 --> 00:25:50.206
- Think. he takes the smallest, he takes the least, and he makes
- 00:25:50.206 --> 00:25:53.843
- It the greatest, right?
- 00:25:53.843 --> 00:25:55.144
- And can you imagine if we take that seed and we're like, this
- 00:25:55.144 --> 00:25:58.214
- Isn't big enough and we don't sew it?
- 00:25:58.214 --> 00:26:01.617
- Yeah, but a seed, no matter how
- 00:26:01.617 --> 00:26:04.253
- Big or small, is designed to grow.
- 00:26:04.253 --> 00:26:07.757
- And it's not confidence in ourselves. and the story about
- 00:26:07.757 --> 00:26:11.093
- The guy who comes to jesus and he says, i believe, but just
- 00:26:11.093 --> 00:26:14.163
- Help my unbelief.
- 00:26:14.163 --> 00:26:15.531
- That was such an honest thing. very honest.
- 00:26:15.531 --> 00:26:18.968
- I know god can change my circumstances.
- 00:26:18.968 --> 00:26:22.038
- I know god can heal me.
- 00:26:22.038 --> 00:26:24.740
- I know god can get me out of this mess.
- 00:26:24.740 --> 00:26:27.343
- I know that god can provide for me right now what i need.
- 00:26:27.343 --> 00:26:32.181
- I know he can do it.
- 00:26:32.181 --> 00:26:33.616
- God help my unbelief.
- 00:26:33.616 --> 00:26:35.451
- Yeah. my distrust, my holding
- 00:26:35.451 --> 00:26:38.821
- Back of well, but what if he doesn't?
- 00:26:38.821 --> 00:26:41.457
- Right. i think those can live together.
- 00:26:41.457 --> 00:26:44.360
- Yeah, that just help my unbelief.
- 00:26:44.360 --> 00:26:46.929
- Help what keeps me from going all in.
- 00:26:46.929 --> 00:26:50.299
- I mean, because in you, you could be thinking one thing,
- 00:26:50.299 --> 00:26:52.668
- But really in your heart, you really believe something
- 00:26:52.668 --> 00:26:55.137
- Totally different.
- 00:26:55.137 --> 00:26:56.505
- And i love to even throw a scripture out that you say,
- 00:26:56.505 --> 00:26:59.775
- How do you grow in your faith?
- 00:26:59.775 --> 00:27:01.844
- Well, romans 12 and 3, it says that god has dealt to
- 00:27:01.844 --> 00:27:05.581
- Every man the, the measure of faith, which is a definite
- 00:27:05.581 --> 00:27:09.618
- Article, meaning that god has given everyone the
- 00:27:09.618 --> 00:27:13.723
- Same level of faith, right.
- 00:27:13.723 --> 00:27:16.258
- And i think if people would really understand the
- 00:27:16.258 --> 00:27:20.229
- Scripture, like an understanding what god has
- 00:27:20.229 --> 00:27:22.631
- Already done, then we exercise that.
- 00:27:22.631 --> 00:27:26.268
- And the more we exercise that, the more we grow in our
- 00:27:26.268 --> 00:27:29.905
- Understanding of what's in us, you know?
- 00:27:29.905 --> 00:27:33.375
- And that's where a lot of maybe misconception or teaching has
- 00:27:33.375 --> 00:27:38.547
- Been that it's just about us,
- 00:27:38.547 --> 00:27:41.817
- Like growing and getting more faith.
- 00:27:41.817 --> 00:27:45.488
- It's like it's you don't really need more faith.
- 00:27:45.488 --> 00:27:50.292
- You need more understanding. yes.
- 00:27:50.292 --> 00:27:52.661
- Of what you do have.
- 00:27:52.661 --> 00:27:54.263
- And the more you operate in
- 00:27:54.263 --> 00:27:55.998
- That, it's the more you grow in it.
- 00:27:55.998 --> 00:27:57.800
- It's like when you receive jesus christ, he placed
- 00:27:57.800 --> 00:28:00.236
- Everything you ever need on the inside of you.
- 00:28:00.236 --> 00:28:02.705
- It's like the moment you say, father, i receive you,
- 00:28:02.705 --> 00:28:05.207
- It's like everything you ever need is in us already.
- 00:28:05.207 --> 00:28:08.944
- It's not like we go back to the manufacturer and say, okay,
- 00:28:08.944 --> 00:28:11.981
- Give me a little bit more of this.
- 00:28:11.981 --> 00:28:13.382
- He's like, i gave you that.
- 00:28:13.382 --> 00:28:14.683
- Yes. you know, what do you want?
- 00:28:14.683 --> 00:28:16.886
- I gave you that.
- 00:28:16.886 --> 00:28:17.686
- So now get in my word. yes.
- 00:28:17.686 --> 00:28:19.789
- And grow in the understanding of what i have
- 00:28:19.789 --> 00:28:23.626
- Already placed on the inside of you.
- 00:28:23.626 --> 00:28:26.162
- I know, you know, scripture,
- 00:28:26.162 --> 00:28:29.365
- Now faith cometh by hearing.
- 00:28:29.365 --> 00:28:32.701
- Hearing by the word of god, right?
- 00:28:32.701 --> 00:28:35.237
- But even if you do some kind of word study or hearing, you'll
- 00:28:35.237 --> 00:28:38.274
- See that it also talks about understanding.
- 00:28:38.274 --> 00:28:41.377
- So faith comes by understanding.
- 00:28:41.377 --> 00:28:44.180
- And so it's like just understanding what faith is and
- 00:28:44.180 --> 00:28:47.983
- What is it used for. yeah.
- 00:28:47.983 --> 00:28:50.753
- There's several ways that one could activate their faith.
- 00:28:50.753 --> 00:28:55.124
- I would say in the past few years, what's been really
- 00:28:55.124 --> 00:28:58.561
- Helpful has been around a community of those with great
- 00:28:58.561 --> 00:29:02.865
- Faith, because some things just
- 00:29:02.865 --> 00:29:05.434
- Need to be caught and not taught.
- 00:29:05.434 --> 00:29:07.837
- And when i'm around somebody that has great faith,
- 00:29:07.837 --> 00:29:11.507
- Especially over things that i have weak faith in, oh my
- 00:29:11.507 --> 00:29:16.245
- Goodness, it's contagious.
- 00:29:16.245 --> 00:29:17.947
- Faith and fear both spread.
- 00:29:17.947 --> 00:29:20.516
- They're both contagious.
- 00:29:20.516 --> 00:29:21.817
- And so if you are around those with great fear, you two will
- 00:29:21.817 --> 00:29:25.588
- Have greater fear.
- 00:29:25.588 --> 00:29:26.856
- But if you're around those with greater faith, you two will
- 00:29:26.856 --> 00:29:29.091
- Have greater faith.
- 00:29:29.091 --> 00:29:30.726
- Years ago, we we were up in hollywood and matt had a dream
- 00:29:30.726 --> 00:29:36.799
- That said, you'll move across
- 00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:38.100
- From the hanna-barbera building.
- 00:29:38.100 --> 00:29:39.969
- It's right there on the cahuenga pass, on the
- 00:29:39.969 --> 00:29:42.104
- 101 freeway in la.
- 00:29:42.104 --> 00:29:43.572
- And sure enough, miracle after miracle, we live right across
- 00:29:43.572 --> 00:29:47.176
- From hanna-barbera.
- 00:29:47.176 --> 00:29:48.644
- Well, then a few years later, he's passing by the
- 00:29:48.644 --> 00:29:51.046
- Hanna-barbera building studios, and he sees it's, they're taking
- 00:29:51.046 --> 00:29:55.918
- The sign down off of it.
- 00:29:55.918 --> 00:29:57.286
- And so he calls and says, you
- 00:29:57.286 --> 00:29:58.988
- Know, someone get me information.
- 00:29:58.988 --> 00:30:00.289
- What are they doing with hanna-barbera building?
- 00:30:00.289 --> 00:30:02.091
- And he had another dream.
- 00:30:02.091 --> 00:30:05.027
- It sounds like he dreams all the time, but when he does
- 00:30:05.027 --> 00:30:06.929
- Dream, i listen.
- 00:30:06.929 --> 00:30:08.130
- He's a visionary. wakes up and says, i've had a dream,
- 00:30:08.130 --> 00:30:10.366
- I am all ears.
- 00:30:10.366 --> 00:30:11.767
- You know, and something about 110,000ft.
- 00:30:11.767 --> 00:30:16.772
- And he says, that's all i know.
- 00:30:16.772 --> 00:30:18.507
- He said, i was in a building.
- 00:30:18.507 --> 00:30:20.843
- All i know is it's 110,000ft.
- 00:30:20.843 --> 00:30:23.679
- So i was like, okay, great.
- 00:30:23.679 --> 00:30:25.581
- So a few weeks later, he's sitting in a lawyer's office
- 00:30:25.581 --> 00:30:30.386
- And he leans over to one of the lawyers and he goes, hey, did
- 00:30:30.386 --> 00:30:32.788
- You get any information on that building?
- 00:30:32.788 --> 00:30:35.157
- He said, well, i called call and it looks like maybe
- 00:30:35.157 --> 00:30:37.293
- Universal wants to sell that building.
- 00:30:37.293 --> 00:30:40.596
- And he said the guy was going
- 00:30:40.596 --> 00:30:42.398
- To check back with some information.
- 00:30:42.398 --> 00:30:44.600
- He said, all i know is that it's 110,000ft.
- 00:30:44.600 --> 00:30:47.803
- So my husband about passes out.
- 00:30:47.803 --> 00:30:50.539
- He runs into the bathroom, calls me and he goes,
- 00:30:50.539 --> 00:30:53.542
- It's 110,000 square feet!
- 00:30:53.542 --> 00:30:55.577
- That's all he knows, you know?
- 00:30:55.577 --> 00:30:57.746
- Well, that was a sign, you know,
- 00:30:57.746 --> 00:30:59.515
- So go all in.
- 00:30:59.515 --> 00:31:00.382
- And so we tried to get the
- 00:31:00.382 --> 00:31:02.918
- Money together for the down payment.
- 00:31:02.918 --> 00:31:04.753
- We remortgaged our home, everything that we had and we
- 00:31:04.753 --> 00:31:08.757
- Put it down on that building.
- 00:31:08.757 --> 00:31:12.127
- And the day it was supposed to go through,
- 00:31:12.127 --> 00:31:16.565
- The main guy, matt calls and says, hey, uh, the bank's
- 00:31:16.565 --> 00:31:21.737
- Calling, you know, where's your money?
- 00:31:21.737 --> 00:31:22.938
- And he said, you know what?
- 00:31:22.938 --> 00:31:23.906
- I just don't think i'm going to do that.
- 00:31:23.906 --> 00:31:25.774
- Oh. not knowing that we had
- 00:31:25.774 --> 00:31:28.410
- Personally put in everything we had.
- 00:31:28.410 --> 00:31:32.147
- I'll never forget, we were in the, in the throes of trying to
- 00:31:32.147 --> 00:31:35.317
- Get a movie out and matt and i were down in the sound booth
- 00:31:35.317 --> 00:31:39.021
- Where they were doing the sound of this, of this movie.
- 00:31:39.021 --> 00:31:42.324
- There's the papers to sign our money, everything that we had
- 00:31:42.324 --> 00:31:46.428
- Our home, everything away.
- 00:31:46.428 --> 00:31:48.130
- And i remember signing our names on, on the board, on the
- 00:31:48.130 --> 00:31:52.668
- Sound board to just release all that money.
- 00:31:52.668 --> 00:31:56.205
- And i was just messed up and i was like, man, i've been
- 00:31:56.205 --> 00:32:00.275
- Raised in faith.
- 00:32:00.275 --> 00:32:01.276
- You take big, great steps of
- 00:32:01.276 --> 00:32:02.811
- Faith and you get what you need.
- 00:32:02.811 --> 00:32:05.547
- You know, you get that because you stepped out in faith.
- 00:32:05.547 --> 00:32:08.817
- And i'll never forget, forget i went home and i just, i was
- 00:32:08.817 --> 00:32:13.288
- Wrecked and i was like going, i don't even know what faith is.
- 00:32:13.288 --> 00:32:16.725
- Mhm. mhm.
- 00:32:16.725 --> 00:32:18.660
- I don't even know what faith.
- 00:32:18.660 --> 00:32:19.795
- If that wasn't great faith or the biggest step of
- 00:32:19.795 --> 00:32:23.632
- Faith i've ever done,
- 00:32:23.632 --> 00:32:25.167
- My husband and i have done together,
- 00:32:25.167 --> 00:32:27.302
- I'm not sure. i don't know what faith is.
- 00:32:27.302 --> 00:32:30.039
- And i sat down at my piano, and i just started playing and the
- 00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:34.209
- Song just rose.
- 00:32:34.209 --> 00:32:35.411
- And it had words like, if you only knew what i had in
- 00:32:35.411 --> 00:32:37.579
- Store for you.
- 00:32:37.579 --> 00:32:39.681
- And these words just kind of poured out of my spirit.
- 00:32:39.681 --> 00:32:42.584
- I was weeping on my piano and
- 00:32:42.584 --> 00:32:46.522
- Just, god, you have to teach me.
- 00:32:46.522 --> 00:32:50.526
- You have to teach me now, because i don't even know
- 00:32:50.526 --> 00:32:53.228
- What faith is.
- 00:32:53.228 --> 00:32:54.430
- And i need to go back to the beginning.
- 00:32:54.430 --> 00:32:57.933
- Okay, so then you look back and go, thank god, i know we didn't
- 00:32:57.933 --> 00:33:02.805
- Buy that building
- 00:33:02.805 --> 00:33:05.340
- Because of all these different reasons.
- 00:33:05.340 --> 00:33:07.242
- But the new owners called matt and said, hey, we hear that you
- 00:33:07.242 --> 00:33:12.614
- Wanted to buy the building.
- 00:33:12.614 --> 00:33:13.649
- Would you guys like to go in there?
- 00:33:13.649 --> 00:33:15.818
- And so long story short, we end
- 00:33:15.818 --> 00:33:19.455
- Up stewarding over that building.
- 00:33:19.455 --> 00:33:22.024
- Wow. and so it wasn't necessarily ownership.
- 00:33:22.024 --> 00:33:25.727
- Right. it was stewardship.
- 00:33:25.727 --> 00:33:27.663
- Wow. which is still good.
- 00:33:27.663 --> 00:33:29.131
- Which is like, which is-- maybe better.
- 00:33:29.131 --> 00:33:31.567
- Yes.
- 00:33:31.567 --> 00:33:32.768
- And so the whole reason for that is the stewardship of
- 00:33:32.768 --> 00:33:37.940
- Something, the influence of
- 00:33:37.940 --> 00:33:39.942
- Something without having to own it.
- 00:33:39.942 --> 00:33:42.845
- And so we have to realize that, that these steps of faith
- 00:33:42.845 --> 00:33:48.150
- Take us somewhere. yes.
- 00:33:48.150 --> 00:33:50.786
- That we have no, i, i never knew i'd be back here.
- 00:33:50.786 --> 00:33:55.824
- Yeah. doing anything here.
- 00:33:55.824 --> 00:33:58.160
- That wasn't in the long scheme of things.
- 00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:01.330
- It was outside of tbn.
- 00:34:01.330 --> 00:34:04.266
- God brought us back here
- 00:34:04.266 --> 00:34:06.268
- And the things that he has done.
- 00:34:06.268 --> 00:34:08.537
- So you never know because it doesn't belong to us anyway.
- 00:34:08.537 --> 00:34:12.341
- When we give it to god, we give it with--
- 00:34:12.341 --> 00:34:16.678
- What do we give him anyway?
- 00:34:16.678 --> 00:34:17.880
- It all belongs to him, right?
- 00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:19.181
- So it's what happens on the inside of us, right?
- 00:34:19.181 --> 00:34:21.550
- Yeah. through it all.
- 00:34:21.550 --> 00:34:22.751
- And so that internal, the revelation that you get, the
- 00:34:22.751 --> 00:34:27.689
- Prosperous soul that you get in, in growing in god and
- 00:34:27.689 --> 00:34:33.395
- Maturing in god, and in knowing his faithfulness
- 00:34:33.395 --> 00:34:38.200
- Even when we can't see what's in front of us,
- 00:34:38.200 --> 00:34:41.470
- The faithfulness of god to take care of us, to do what god
- 00:34:41.470 --> 00:34:45.507
- Wants to do on the inside of us.
- 00:34:45.507 --> 00:34:47.276
- It's not what we do for him.
- 00:34:47.276 --> 00:34:48.477
- It's what he does on the inside of us.
- 00:34:48.477 --> 00:34:50.212
- Right? right.
- 00:34:50.212 --> 00:34:51.413
- And so nothing is lost in the kingdom of god.
- 00:34:51.413 --> 00:34:54.950
- And so sometimes i think people think that they have to have
- 00:34:54.950 --> 00:34:58.153
- This radical faith to get anything done.
- 00:34:58.153 --> 00:35:00.489
- No, you don't.
- 00:35:00.489 --> 00:35:01.890
- You just have to have a mustard seed of faith.
- 00:35:01.890 --> 00:35:04.993
- Put it into god's hands. yes.
- 00:35:04.993 --> 00:35:07.629
- And it's a live seed.
- 00:35:07.629 --> 00:35:08.730
- And then he grows it the way he wants
- 00:35:08.730 --> 00:35:11.867
- To grow it.
- 00:35:11.867 --> 00:35:13.035
- But see, that's what's great.
- 00:35:13.035 --> 00:35:13.936
- I love that he chose a mustard seed.
- 00:35:13.936 --> 00:35:15.537
- He could have said, if you've
- 00:35:15.537 --> 00:35:16.505
- Got faith the size of a watermelon.
- 00:35:16.505 --> 00:35:18.273
- Yes. you know, but he didn't.
- 00:35:18.273 --> 00:35:19.675
- Yes.
- 00:35:19.675 --> 00:35:20.909
- You know, it was like, you better come up with something
- 00:35:20.909 --> 00:35:22.077
- Huge here, people, or nothing's happening.
- 00:35:22.077 --> 00:35:24.446
- And i think that's showing the difference in power.
- 00:35:24.446 --> 00:35:27.416
- The power is all of his.
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- He speaks a word and it happens.
- 00:35:28.817 --> 00:35:30.752
- All we have to do is whatever that little,
- 00:35:30.752 --> 00:35:33.088
- Take that little seed and you plant it in god and he does
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- Things that are so beyond.
- 00:35:37.926 --> 00:35:40.762
- I love that the lord uses small beginnings.
- 00:35:40.762 --> 00:35:45.000
- He takes this little seed, a little mustard seed of faith,
- 00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:49.304
- And he turns it into something amazing.
- 00:35:49.304 --> 00:35:51.807
- I think a lot of times we think, well, i can't have big
- 00:35:51.807 --> 00:35:54.042
- Miracles in my life because i just don't think i can
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- Faith that big. you don't have to.
- 00:35:57.512 --> 00:36:01.149
- You can just have a little bit.
- 00:36:01.149 --> 00:36:02.985
- God grows your faith because, you know what?
- 00:36:02.985 --> 00:36:04.987
- Your faith is in the seed of god's word.
- 00:36:04.987 --> 00:36:09.157
- It's not anything that you do.
- 00:36:09.157 --> 00:36:10.792
- It's what god does.
- 00:36:10.792 --> 00:36:12.361
- And so my faith and my trust in him and walking in obedience,
- 00:36:12.361 --> 00:36:16.632
- It just takes a tiny little bit of faith to get to get
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- Something wonderful and great from god.
- 00:36:20.469 --> 00:36:26.808
- If you are spiritually dry, just know that that dryness
- 00:36:30.379 --> 00:36:34.283
- Doesn't necessarily mean you
- 00:36:34.283 --> 00:36:36.084
- Lack faith or intimacy with god.
- 00:36:36.084 --> 00:36:38.920
- I would say just continue to be faithful because that
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- Experience of emotional highs and feeling this sensational
- 00:36:42.924 --> 00:36:48.096
- Moment, all those can come and
- 00:36:48.096 --> 00:36:50.198
- Go, but the truth remains the same.
- 00:36:50.198 --> 00:36:53.135
- God is with you.
- 00:36:53.135 --> 00:36:55.103
- And spiritual hunger doesn't always have to feel great.
- 00:36:55.103 --> 00:36:58.373
- And so i would say, don't judge what you actually have, even if
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- You want to want god.
- 00:37:02.978 --> 00:37:05.447
- Don't judge that.
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- Don't condemn that, but honor it by meeting its desire, which
- 00:37:06.748 --> 00:37:11.053
- Is more of the lord.
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- This perfect high priest.
- 00:37:36.512 --> 00:37:38.414
- You know, it used to be in the old testament that there was
- 00:37:38.414 --> 00:37:40.550
- Such a ritual if you ever wanted to get close to god.
- 00:37:40.550 --> 00:37:43.553
- I mean, so many things that had to be done.
- 00:37:43.553 --> 00:37:45.555
- Now, because of jesus, we get
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- To come right into the very presence.
- 00:37:47.657 --> 00:37:49.392
- And jesus said, i don't call you servants anymore.
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- You're my friends.
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- We're family.
- 00:37:53.730 --> 00:37:54.630
- We've been adopted into god's family.
- 00:37:54.630 --> 00:37:56.499
- And because of that, you get to come and you get to present
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- Yourself to the lord and ask from your heart, because he
- 00:37:59.702 --> 00:38:02.872
- Knows your heart.
- 00:38:02.872 --> 00:38:04.507
- One of the things i've learned to say to my son is that thank
- 00:38:08.144 --> 00:38:11.514
- God for every closed door as much as you
- 00:38:11.514 --> 00:38:13.449
- Thank god for every open door
- 00:38:13.449 --> 00:38:15.485
- Because we were so sure he was supposed to get into one
- 00:38:15.485 --> 00:38:17.687
- Particular school for his masters.
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- And that door closed.
- 00:38:19.222 --> 00:38:21.090
- And i remember that day.
- 00:38:21.090 --> 00:38:21.991
- He was so disappointed.
- 00:38:21.991 --> 00:38:23.159
- And i'm like, babe, the whole-- we're on this long haul.
- 00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:26.629
- The reason we called him christian was because i bought
- 00:38:26.629 --> 00:38:28.865
- Child's version of pilgrim's progress about how we're on
- 00:38:28.865 --> 00:38:31.434
- This journey to the celestial city, and i said,
- 00:38:31.434 --> 00:38:33.636
- You're going to fall down.
- 00:38:33.636 --> 00:38:34.737
- You're going to get back up again.
- 00:38:34.737 --> 00:38:36.406
- Things are going to not go the way you want them to go, and
- 00:38:36.406 --> 00:38:39.008
- Then suddenly you're going to
- 00:38:39.008 --> 00:38:40.009
- Discover what god was doing all along.
- 00:38:40.009 --> 00:38:41.911
- Yeah.
- 00:38:41.911 --> 00:38:43.146
- So i remember us that night saying, okay, let's sit down
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- Right now and let's thank god that that door closed.
- 00:38:44.981 --> 00:38:47.183
- Yes.
- 00:38:47.183 --> 00:38:48.284
- And then the door that god opened afterwards was so
- 00:38:48.284 --> 00:38:51.187
- Much better, so much.
- 00:38:51.187 --> 00:38:52.588
- It's exceeding abundantly above all that we could think,
- 00:38:52.588 --> 00:38:56.292
- So we just have to trust god even when we don't see.
- 00:38:56.292 --> 00:39:00.329
- So all those people in the bible--
- 00:39:00.329 --> 00:39:02.498
- Yeah. yeah.
- 00:39:02.498 --> 00:39:03.599
- Those beautiful people that i can't wait to meet.
- 00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:05.768
- Yeah. you know, those men of faith.
- 00:39:05.768 --> 00:39:07.770
- That's what i want to be.
- 00:39:07.770 --> 00:39:08.671
- I want to be a
- 00:39:08.671 --> 00:39:09.872
- I'm going to go to my grave believing well,
- 00:39:09.872 --> 00:39:13.342
- Full of faith
- 00:39:13.342 --> 00:39:15.044
- In knowing that the generations that follow after are going to
- 00:39:15.044 --> 00:39:18.981
- Be walking the same beautiful road,
- 00:39:18.981 --> 00:39:21.617
- A road of faith and belief.
- 00:39:21.617 --> 00:39:24.120
- I love the story of the oak tree.
- 00:39:24.120 --> 00:39:26.622
- It's just the little nut that held its ground, you know?
- 00:39:26.622 --> 00:39:29.325
- Yeah. just stayed in faith,
- 00:39:29.325 --> 00:39:30.893
- You know, that grew the big
- 00:39:30.893 --> 00:39:32.228
- Beautiful oak tree.
- 00:39:32.228 --> 00:39:34.096
- Every victory you have in your life is powerful because the
- 00:39:34.096 --> 00:39:38.734
- Next challenge that you may experience, if you can look
- 00:39:38.734 --> 00:39:43.005
- Back over the past victory. if you can look back and say, wow,
- 00:39:43.005 --> 00:39:47.343
- David looked and he said, look,
- 00:39:47.343 --> 00:39:49.278
- I slew the lion and i slew the bear.
- 00:39:49.278 --> 00:39:52.014
- So now this uncircumcised philistine, david was able to
- 00:39:52.014 --> 00:39:56.786
- Go back and look at what god had already done in his life.
- 00:39:56.786 --> 00:40:00.823
- So that's what you can do.
- 00:40:00.823 --> 00:40:02.558
- You can have that same radical faith.
- 00:40:02.558 --> 00:40:04.927
- If you don't forget about what god has previously done in your
- 00:40:04.927 --> 00:40:09.131
- Life. just build upon what you have already been seeing taking
- 00:40:09.131 --> 00:40:13.636
- Place in your life.
- 00:40:13.636 --> 00:40:14.670
- And you too can have this radical faith.
- 00:40:14.670 --> 00:40:18.274
- My heart was literally on fire as you were sharing your story,
- 00:40:18.274 --> 00:40:21.410
- Because it's like the exact path that god took me through
- 00:40:21.410 --> 00:40:24.947
- When he called me out of corporate into ministry.
- 00:40:24.947 --> 00:40:27.950
- It was like when you were talking about sitting at the
- 00:40:27.950 --> 00:40:30.152
- Piano like, god, i need you to retrain me, because i thought i
- 00:40:30.152 --> 00:40:34.790
- Knew what faith was.
- 00:40:34.790 --> 00:40:36.225
- But this doesn't add up.
- 00:40:36.225 --> 00:40:37.660
- And in the middle of my own season of like, recalibrating
- 00:40:37.660 --> 00:40:42.865
- Against faith, god told me to read psalm 25, and he had me
- 00:40:42.865 --> 00:40:46.969
- Read psalm 25 every day for months
- 00:40:46.969 --> 00:40:50.339
- Because, you know, in our
- 00:40:50.339 --> 00:40:51.774
- Household, i'm essentially the breadwinner.
- 00:40:51.774 --> 00:40:53.609
- My husband's in ministry,
- 00:40:53.609 --> 00:40:54.877
- But, you know, we have a small church, so the church really
- 00:40:54.877 --> 00:40:56.579
- Couldn't afford as much.
- 00:40:56.579 --> 00:40:57.613
- And so i was like, lord, it's, it's all on me.
- 00:40:57.613 --> 00:41:01.717
- And you just basically told me to leave everything?
- 00:41:01.717 --> 00:41:04.554
- And the lord told me,
- 00:41:04.554 --> 00:41:06.088
- Read psalm 25, which says,
- 00:41:06.088 --> 00:41:08.291
- In you, lord my god, i put my trust.
- 00:41:08.291 --> 00:41:11.294
- Yeah.
- 00:41:11.294 --> 00:41:12.194
- I trust in you.
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- Do not let me be put to shame.
- 00:41:14.130 --> 00:41:17.199
- When i read that, and that's only two verses in, i burst
- 00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:20.403
- Into tears because i realized that my angst, my frustration
- 00:41:20.403 --> 00:41:25.541
- Was because i was afraid of being humiliated.
- 00:41:25.541 --> 00:41:27.743
- There you go.
- 00:41:27.743 --> 00:41:28.578
- I was afraid of losing everything.
- 00:41:28.578 --> 00:41:30.212
- I was afraid. um, you know, all these people look up to you, and
- 00:41:30.212 --> 00:41:33.683
- They're like, wow, you really are doing it.
- 00:41:33.683 --> 00:41:34.951
- And then i'm going to lose everything?
- 00:41:34.951 --> 00:41:37.119
- I was afraid of being humiliated.
- 00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:38.588
- But then verse three,
- 00:41:38.588 --> 00:41:41.157
- No one who hopes in you will ever be put to shame.
- 00:41:41.157 --> 00:41:45.595
- I love it. when i read that, you
- 00:41:45.595 --> 00:41:47.930
- Talk about an infusion of faith.
- 00:41:47.930 --> 00:41:51.567
- Then it doesn't matter. it doesn't.
- 00:41:51.567 --> 00:41:54.971
- I realized the concern and the reason why god was retraining
- 00:41:54.971 --> 00:41:58.708
- My faith is because my hope was misplaced.
- 00:41:58.708 --> 00:42:02.244
- Yeah, there you go.
- 00:42:02.244 --> 00:42:03.479
- My hope had been in what i could produce with my hands and
- 00:42:03.479 --> 00:42:07.350
- God was like, listen, people have issues all the time with
- 00:42:07.350 --> 00:42:10.820
- What they build, but when your hope is in me, i cannot and
- 00:42:10.820 --> 00:42:14.557
- Will not fail you. you will not be put to shame.
- 00:42:14.557 --> 00:42:17.360
- That whole season built a level of faith in me to where i think
- 00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:21.998
- My husband is kind of scared now because i'm literally,
- 00:42:21.998 --> 00:42:25.001
- I'm just like, if god says it, and i've kind of been that way,
- 00:42:25.001 --> 00:42:27.570
- But i'm in a place where i'm
- 00:42:27.570 --> 00:42:28.471
- Like, if god says it, that is it.
- 00:42:28.471 --> 00:42:30.439
- Yeah. yeah.
- 00:42:30.439 --> 00:42:31.407
- Buckle up, buddy. i, i said to god. i,
- 00:42:31.407 --> 00:42:33.843
- I literally committed to the lord.
- 00:42:33.843 --> 00:42:35.311
- I said, it's all yours.
- 00:42:35.311 --> 00:42:37.813
- Like, like i said, if you want the house, take the house.
- 00:42:37.813 --> 00:42:39.815
- I said, father, you can take every event on my calendar.
- 00:42:39.815 --> 00:42:42.718
- I said, god, if you need me to, to go back to obscurity.
- 00:42:42.718 --> 00:42:45.421
- I said, i'm fine with that.
- 00:42:45.421 --> 00:42:46.288
- You can have my reputation, father.
- 00:42:46.288 --> 00:42:47.423
- You can have my health.
- 00:42:47.423 --> 00:42:48.591
- I said, whatever you want
- 00:42:48.591 --> 00:42:49.492
- That's going to bring you glory.
- 00:42:49.492 --> 00:42:50.693
- You can have.
- 00:42:50.693 --> 00:42:51.694
- I was never in that position before.
- 00:42:51.694 --> 00:42:53.596
- I thought i was. yeah.
- 00:42:53.596 --> 00:42:54.830
- But when you realize the faithfulness of god, when you
- 00:42:54.830 --> 00:42:58.034
- Literally cannot control anything
- 00:42:58.034 --> 00:42:59.502
- And god is still faithful,
- 00:42:59.502 --> 00:43:00.970
- How could you not have faith in a god like that?
- 00:43:00.970 --> 00:43:03.639
- Yeah.
- 00:43:03.639 --> 00:43:04.640
- I mean, i just love how everyone's stories,
- 00:43:04.640 --> 00:43:07.276
- Um, your faith looked so messy-- yes.
- 00:43:07.276 --> 00:43:12.048
- In that time, because i think
- 00:43:12.048 --> 00:43:13.649
- We have this interpretation of faith.
- 00:43:13.649 --> 00:43:15.117
- Like it's like this epic thing for epic christians and, and,
- 00:43:15.117 --> 00:43:20.656
- Um, it gives you these epic stories and epic results.
- 00:43:20.656 --> 00:43:24.293
- Um, but there's a cost to faith, and that cost is not everyone's
- 00:43:24.293 --> 00:43:28.464
- Going to understand you.
- 00:43:28.464 --> 00:43:30.299
- Um, and it's not going to make sense.
- 00:43:30.299 --> 00:43:33.369
- And it doesn't really hold to human logic.
- 00:43:33.369 --> 00:43:37.573
- Um, and yet there is a heavenly reward, right?
- 00:43:37.573 --> 00:43:42.411
- And i remember, uh, before we started church planting, um, i
- 00:43:42.411 --> 00:43:46.449
- Had this dream and i was, i was in my home and i heard a knock
- 00:43:46.449 --> 00:43:52.788
- On the front door and it was
- 00:43:52.788 --> 00:43:55.057
- Someone bringing like groceries.
- 00:43:55.057 --> 00:43:57.693
- And in my dream, i'm like, thank you for the groceries.
- 00:43:57.693 --> 00:43:59.962
- I really needed this.
- 00:43:59.962 --> 00:44:01.230
- And then i closed the door and i look up and all around the
- 00:44:01.230 --> 00:44:05.000
- Shelves around the house, there
- 00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:07.470
- Were old food, food left uneaten.
- 00:44:07.470 --> 00:44:11.974
- And i had actually too much produce in the house.
- 00:44:11.974 --> 00:44:16.112
- And i woke up and the immediate thing i felt was, um, kind of
- 00:44:16.112 --> 00:44:21.717
- Like what you were saying before.
- 00:44:21.717 --> 00:44:22.952
- Like, i have so many backup plans and there is no stakes
- 00:44:22.952 --> 00:44:28.090
- Actually to the way i'm living.
- 00:44:28.090 --> 00:44:29.992
- There's no stakes. like faith is high stakes.
- 00:44:29.992 --> 00:44:33.395
- Right. right.
- 00:44:33.395 --> 00:44:34.830
- And i'm like, i, i'm not--
- 00:44:34.830 --> 00:44:37.199
- It's like, if this doesn't work out, i have this.
- 00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:39.135
- If this doesn't work out, then i have this.
- 00:44:39.135 --> 00:44:41.203
- And i'm like, i wonder, do i
- 00:44:41.203 --> 00:44:42.938
- Even need faith to live my life? yeah.
- 00:44:42.938 --> 00:44:45.674
- And most people don't.
- 00:44:45.674 --> 00:44:47.376
- I was not living by faith.
- 00:44:47.376 --> 00:44:48.944
- I know that prayer.
- 00:44:48.944 --> 00:44:50.079
- I was like, lord, give me real faith.
- 00:44:50.079 --> 00:44:51.947
- And then we started church planting.
- 00:44:51.947 --> 00:44:53.415
- Yeah. and then, like, we lost everything.
- 00:44:53.415 --> 00:44:55.584
- And it was just like a whole journey.
- 00:44:55.584 --> 00:44:57.219
- And then that's when i knew,
- 00:44:57.219 --> 00:44:58.888
- Okay, like, this is what it takes.
- 00:44:58.888 --> 00:45:01.891
- It takes faith.
- 00:45:01.891 --> 00:45:03.225
- Yeah. yeah.
- 00:45:03.225 --> 00:45:04.794
- Where there's no plan b.
- 00:45:04.794 --> 00:45:06.028
- Yeah, i love that.
- 00:45:06.028 --> 00:45:07.897
- Spiritual hunger always leads us closer to god.
- 00:45:07.897 --> 00:45:12.535
- Towards god,
- 00:45:12.535 --> 00:45:13.636
- My hunger for something more of god.
- 00:45:13.636 --> 00:45:16.372
- I think each and every one of us down deep in our souls,
- 00:45:16.372 --> 00:45:19.508
- We want more of god in our life.
- 00:45:19.508 --> 00:45:22.044
- So having that hunger inside the bible says, you draw near
- 00:45:22.044 --> 00:45:26.248
- To me and i'll draw near to you.
- 00:45:26.248 --> 00:45:28.350
- That is a promise of god that we can bank on.
- 00:45:28.350 --> 00:45:32.521
- So keep that hunger.
- 00:45:32.521 --> 00:45:33.889
- Stay hungry for the lord.
- 00:45:33.889 --> 00:45:36.358
- You know, i was, i'm in the midst of planning a women's
- 00:45:36.358 --> 00:45:40.196
- Conference and i am, um, like
- 00:45:40.196 --> 00:45:43.666
- Two years out, very strategic in it.
- 00:45:43.666 --> 00:45:46.936
- I love planning stuff.
- 00:45:46.936 --> 00:45:48.370
- I love having everything organized.
- 00:45:48.370 --> 00:45:50.940
- This year i had a meeting with my staff just not long ago, and
- 00:45:50.940 --> 00:45:55.945
- We were talking and i said, this year i am the most
- 00:45:55.945 --> 00:46:00.482
- Uncomfortable that i have ever been in ministry.
- 00:46:00.482 --> 00:46:03.853
- Wow.
- 00:46:03.853 --> 00:46:05.120
- It's like i've been in ministry now for almost 33 years and
- 00:46:05.120 --> 00:46:08.157
- This year has thrown me way out there.
- 00:46:08.157 --> 00:46:11.460
- And i'm saying, god, why?
- 00:46:11.460 --> 00:46:12.962
- I mean, people that i wanted to bring, order and structure, that
- 00:46:12.962 --> 00:46:17.533
- I wanted to create, it just-- and it wasn't because i
- 00:46:17.533 --> 00:46:20.870
- Reached out to them and they couldn't come.
- 00:46:20.870 --> 00:46:23.806
- It's like i think about it and
- 00:46:23.806 --> 00:46:25.741
- I don't-- it's like, what is happening?
- 00:46:25.741 --> 00:46:28.544
- And i was telling the staff and i said, i feel like i'm at a
- 00:46:28.544 --> 00:46:33.015
- Place now where it's like, i just gotta put it all out there
- 00:46:33.015 --> 00:46:37.553
- And say, god, i create space for you.
- 00:46:37.553 --> 00:46:39.822
- Yes. whatever you want to do.
- 00:46:39.822 --> 00:46:42.024
- I mean, i know the scripture, man will devise his plan,
- 00:46:42.024 --> 00:46:45.928
- But god will order his steps, right?
- 00:46:45.928 --> 00:46:48.530
- And so i'm like, god, just order my steps, whatever you
- 00:46:48.530 --> 00:46:51.400
- Want to do, because i want people to have an encounter
- 00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:54.036
- With god, not in what i create. yes.
- 00:46:54.036 --> 00:46:57.039
- And so i'm seeing that now.
- 00:46:57.039 --> 00:46:59.575
- I believe that the body of christ at large is hearing
- 00:46:59.575 --> 00:47:04.980
- The same thing. i totally agree.
- 00:47:04.980 --> 00:47:07.449
- Totally agree.
- 00:47:07.449 --> 00:47:08.751
- It's like, come on, let's make the main thing the main thing.
- 00:47:08.751 --> 00:47:11.720
- It's not about the production.
- 00:47:11.720 --> 00:47:13.722
- It's not about the creativity.
- 00:47:13.722 --> 00:47:15.891
- It's not about, you know, the
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- Status or whatever you have built.
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- But let's really create this platform to be used to
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- Glorify the father.
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- And so it's, but it's a very uncomfortable place to be.
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- I always wondered why when moses was getting the children
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- Of israel out of egypt, and it was the final curse, you know,
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- That the firstborn is going to die,
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- Why did they put blood on the lintel on the
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- Doorposts of a lamb?
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- Why didn't they put a big x in the middle of the door?
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- I mean, that would seem more
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- Obvious to me, until i understood
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- 400 years in egypt, they've adopted a lot of egyptian ways.
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- And egyptians believed in an afterlife.
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- But it all depended on your name.
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- So they would carve their names on buildings.
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- And even the children of israel had learned to put their name
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- On the lintel above the door.
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- And i think the great message was, your salvation will never
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- Be in your name.
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- It's going to be covered by the blood of jesus.
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- And that's why. that's why you're saved,
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- Because his blood, covers our name.
- 00:48:13.983 --> 00:48:17.353
- And that's how we truly have
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- Radical faith because of who he is.
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- Absolutely. and that's the type of faith that creates
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- Generational impact.
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- It truly does.
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- And my hope for everyone who's been watching this, number one,
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- Is that their hope in the lord would be restored.
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- We place our hope in so many things, but we're made a
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- Promise that they that hope in
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- The lord shall renew their strength.
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- So when your faith starts to fade or circumstances start to
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- Make you question, does god really hear me?
- 00:48:45.514 --> 00:48:47.249
- It's the hope that we have in the lord and our willingness to
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- Actually obey him when we don't understand, and when we may not
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- Even see what we're hoping we're hoping in the lord for.
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- So let's just pray.
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- Let's pray for those who are watching.
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- I pray for everyone watching this, god, that their faith
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- Would be ignited through this conversation, and that they
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- Would understand that even if they don't see the
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- Manifestation of what they have prayed for, because you are
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- Faithful to the prayers of the righteous, that they understand
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- That they will still see generational impact.
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- God, give us the peace that surpasses all understanding to
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- Guard our hearts and our minds through christ jesus.
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- In your name i pray, amen.
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- Amen. amen.
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- Connect with us on social media and let us know how our team
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- Can pray for you.
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- Okay. so, nona.
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- Yes. christine sent us this message on instagram.
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- Okay. so she asks, why is it so hard to trust god? whenever i
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- Feel like i am trusting him, a harder or more painful
- 00:49:51.880 --> 00:49:55.284
- Situation comes.
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- Oh, christine, this is real.
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- This is really real.
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- We have to discipline ourselves to begin chronicling
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- The goodness of god.
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- But philippians four and six, it tells us, be anxious for
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- Nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication with
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- Thanksgiving make your request to god.
- 00:50:09.565 --> 00:50:11.934
- And the peace of god, which surpasses all understanding,
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- Will guard your hearts and minds through christ jesus.
- 00:50:14.036 --> 00:50:16.138
- What activates the peace of god is not just the prayer.
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- It's the thanksgiving
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- Because what thanksgiving does is it actually forces you to
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- Remember god's goodness and his faithfulness.
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- And so when the crazy things are happening and the chaos is
- 00:50:27.049 --> 00:50:30.152
- Erupting and everything is falling apart, i now have an
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- Inventory of god's goodness
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- That i can reflect on and remember.
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- And that's how the peace of god becomes real in my life.
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- Amen. so thanks for asking these questions, y'all.
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