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Experience Healing | Better Together Episode 1154

April 2, 2026 | S8 E1154 | 50:59

Jesus died for our sins AND our healing. His healing power works in ways beyond what can be seen. Even when we feel like God isn't answering our prayers, we can discover the hope and power of God moving in every situation. | TBN Prayer Line: 714-731-1000

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Better Together | Experience Healing | Better Together Episode 1154 | April 2, 2026

The bible says that jesus personally carried our sins,
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Our shame, and our sickness to the cross.
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And because he lives, we can experience healing,
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Soul, mind and body.
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Come on, let's talk about it.
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People must be wondering because i know i do,
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I wonder about, what does healing look like?
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Or what if healing doesn't come for me?
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So my mom and dad divorced when i was seven.
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Or at least that's when they announced it.
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Um, and then i don't really remember much between that and
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The age of 12.
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Uh, just, you know, you know, you just have, you just deal
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With, your body deals with it,
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However it deals with things, right?
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And so i remember snapshots like photos kind of, it's how
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I remember things.
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And i remember things happening in school, but never like
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In the house.
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And i don't think abuse happened or anything like that.
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It just more my mind shut down.
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Didn't know what to do with it.
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And but i grew up with my mom accepting jesus when i was
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About three years old and we started going to church, and my
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Dad had, just didn't make that decision.
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And i remember there were even moments of,
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You know, we'd go get dinner together and my mom would say,
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Let's pray, you know.
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I'm the oldest of three girls, and we would pray.
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But before we do it, my dad would say.
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Oh, you should just pray to me.
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I'm the one who's paying for this.
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Like, just comments like that that were kind of strange.
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Um, as an adult now i'm like, oh yeah, if you have bitterness
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Toward god, if you have bitterness toward life,
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That's going to happen.
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And so i remember people telling me in the church, you
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Keep praying for your dad, you keep praying for your dad, you
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Keep praying for your dad.
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And this, not only in hindsight were there like, you
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Know, just this bitterness and a lack of healing in his soul
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And his spirit and his emotions.
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As i got older, ten years ago, nine years ago, uh, he actually
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Got pancreatic cancer.
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He served in the vietnam war.
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And there's, you know, agent orange, all of that stuff.
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We believe that that's part of how that happened.
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He got it.
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And by the time he found it, it was like stage four and there
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Was really nothing you could do.
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And i remember-- so i'm kind of all over the story,
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But it started when i was young and realizing that he needed
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Healing not only physically,
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But like emotionally and spiritually.
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And he was always kind of this broken person in this way, even
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Though he was an incredible dad.
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Like, i really loved my time with him.
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He was a good man.
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Uh, but when he got sick and then when he really started
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Declining, he was at this point, like in hospice
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And we were watching--
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And my mom, who was not the most helpful person, uh, and
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Their divorce, but she, you know, in her own fear and her
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Own worry, uh, maybe her own shame,
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She said to me, you know, if your father doesn't accept
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Jesus into his heart, by the time he dies, it's going to be
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Your fault that he goes to hell.
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And of course, this is nine years ago.
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So i'm a little bit older and i'm like, first of all,
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I went to seminary.
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That's not right.
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So but you know, i was like, i did say, mom, you know,
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That's not a thing.
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But also, it sounds like you're hurting.
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All that to say, all of us,
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Including me, i kind of lost hope.
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We're just like, you know, god, we know you know his heart.
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What are you going to do here?
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Um, not only is his body completely broken at this
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Point, but he doesn't know you.
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That's the ultimate need of healing.
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And i remember my sister and i were at the hospital, um, and a
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Friend of his, and honestly, i can't remember--
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I don't even know who he is, but we're in hong kong, um,
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Because that's where he's living at the time.
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And he came up and he just
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Said, clinton, do you know jesus?
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And he goes, i think i do.
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And he's like, well, do you know-- like, he went through the
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Whole thing of like, who is jesus?
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And he died for your sins and that he loves you.
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And like, he, he doesn't always have to heal the body,
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But he heals your soul.
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And i was watching this man that i did not know, not lose
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Hope, literally on his deathbed, when the rest of us
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That are the closest to him had,
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And that was like two weeks before he passed away.
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And he prayed.
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He prayed with this man, prayed with my father on his deathbed,
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And my sister and i just bawled.
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I just cried.
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And some of it was over
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Shame of like, how did i lose hope in a god that is so
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Good, and how can i lose hope in my father?
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Like, this is an eternity thing, right?
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But also, like in hindsight, i look at that and i think, what
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About if he didn't? in this, this case, this story ended up,
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You know, kind of has a little bow on it, right?
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But what about when our-- when it doesn't happen?
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Or in my father's case, we prayed and prayed and prayed,
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And he still died.
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Yeah, right.
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What does healing mean to us?
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You know, the one beautiful horrid story that we have from
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The bible is poor job.
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Job, you know, he lost everything.
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He lost everything but his own life.
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And i, i love when god says, where were you when i formed
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And i created?
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I wish i could actually memorize that verse of god
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Talking back to job of where were you when i did the
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Circumference of this and that and all those--
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It just humbles you so much because god is a god of love.
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God is love and we cannot question that, god is faithful.
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God is omnipotent.
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He's faithful. he's holy.
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I mean, he's just and he's merciful and he's righteous.
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All those beautiful words is who god is, and he can't change.
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He doesn't come out of character.
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And so
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It doesn't really matter what we go through.
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God never changes.
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He is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
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So if we lost everything, is god still good?
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Absolutely.
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And so my question, you know, for-- i know you have all
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Experienced suffering in some
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Way, shape, or form in your life.
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And, you know, how does-- like for us, faith, does it just
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Mean like we pretend like nothing's wrong?
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Or do we have this, you know, if jesus is a healer of so many
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Things, but it's not happening for us or happening the way
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That we want it,
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How has that affected one, your faith?
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But two, like, how do you combat that for just
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Anyone that's watching?
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And it's just kind of in the desert.
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They've been waiting for a long time.
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How are ways that you have processed through it?
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Yeah, it's so interesting because when it comes to
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Healing, i have had both experiences.
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I've prayed for a child who was deaf since birth, and god
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Restored his hearing.
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And i was so kind of shaken by it that i actually got the mom
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To contact his pediatrician and send me something
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Because i wanted to--
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I thought, well, maybe they're just saying that. maybe he just
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Couldn't hear very well.
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And no, he was totally deaf from birth, and god in a second--
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But i prayed for other people and that's not happened.
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Yeah. in fact, when i used to be with pat robertson at the
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700 club, i remember one day getting a letter from a girl
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And she said, i watch your show three times a day, and
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Sometimes i love it.
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And sometimes i could take my shoe off and throw it
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Through the screen.
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And there was a phone number.
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So i called her and i said, i hope you don't mind me calling
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You, but i just wondered, first of all, why do you watch
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Three times a day?
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What is your problem?
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We have our moments, but not that many.
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And she said, because i have a terminal disease and i look for
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Anything that will give me hope. yeah.
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And i said, okay, here's my real question.
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Why do you want to take your shoe off and throw it
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Through the screen?
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And she said, because you never talk about people like me,
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People who love jesus and don't get the answer they pray for.
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And so i remember going to pat robertson that day and saying,
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Okay, i know that we usually have testimonies that are just
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What you consider build up faith.
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You know, a miracle did happen.
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I want to do a 30 minute special with this girl.
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And pat was incredible.
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He was like, okay, absolutely, you can do it.
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Just make sure you've done your homework, your research.
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Make sure you ground it in scripture.
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And it was one of the most moving experiences of my life
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To interview this girl who she had to be flown in with a, with
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A nurse because she was so weak by that point,
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But she spoke in a quiet voice with absolute authority and the
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Goodness and the mercy and the kindness of god.
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And it just i came away from the whole--
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And i mean, she passed.
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I got to be at her memorial.
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But the whole thing was just--
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I came away with a greater understanding of the mystery of
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God that i will--
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If anybody is ever sick and
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Asks for prayer, i will always pray.
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And i will always believe that god can heal like that.
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But i'm also in for the long haul for those people who have
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To keep walking without getting the answer they pray for.
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Well, i think the mystery and the healing got--
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Faith holds both.
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Yeah, that's true.
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That if we don't get the miracle that we think we are
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Believing and trusting god for, there's always-- we can't lose
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Being christians.
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There's no, there's no loss.
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We can't lose.
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We win either way, right? absolutely.
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If i die, i die with jesus.
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There's no losing here.
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But, um, it is a mystery.
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I think so many people lose faith--
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Yeah.
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-- over wanting the miracle to come.
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And they don't see it. yeah.
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Not seeing past god being the author and the finisher and
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Seeing everything in between in our life.
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When we look at our life, we
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Have to see the beginning to eternity
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Like you were talking about the other day.
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We have to add it into, um, what this life brings, i think
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Is just on the job training for what comes next, right?
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And so holding on to faith and so many people in the bible
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Hung on to faith saying, you know what?
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If i die, i die, but i'm not
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Letting go of the promise of god.
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Yes. you know, and so that's kind of the way i live
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My faith out.
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I'm believing god for things
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That i haven't seen come to fruition.
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But man, you can't beat it out of me
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That god can and god will,
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And we'll see it someday, you know.
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I think one of the greatest challenges to faith is when we
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Pray for healing
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And it doesn't happen in a way that makes sense to us because
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Then we think, well, a lot of that was to do with some very
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Strange theology in the 80s where you just name it
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And claim it.
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You know, if you can say it, god's going to do it,
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And yet that's as if we would reduce god to someone
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We could understand, that
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We could put god in a box and
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Say, i'll do this and you'll do that.
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Sometimes i think in our familiarity with god, we forget
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That god is holy, that god is magnificent.
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He's the one who spoke this world into existence.
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And so if you find yourself where you've been praying and
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God's not answering in a way that makes sense to you,
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Don't stop praying.
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Do you know that there's not one prayer you've prayed that
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Has ever fallen to the ground?
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It says that the angels,
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You read about this in psalms and in revelation, they capture
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All the prayers of god's people in a bowl, and they hold them
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Up to god in heaven as a fragrance.
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It's like god has chosen to fragrance heaven with the
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Prayers of his people.
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It's not about you not having enough faith.
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It's about god's perfect timing.
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I mean, i relate to both of you.
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Yeah. um, i've seen cataracts be just,
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I mean, i've seen cataracts disappear upon prayer.
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I've seen tumors disappear upon prayer.
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And from the beginning of my faith journey, i genuinely
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Believe that, that god is a healer and that he paid for not
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Only our sins, but for our restoration, our redemption.
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But yet, i think over time, i've also realized that i, when
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Praying for healing, i should maintain great expectation, but
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Keep my agenda out of it. that's good.
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You know, as in, i don't know
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Exactly how it should look like.
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That's not really up to me.
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What's up to me is to steward god's goodness and promise,
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You know, to steward my faith.
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That's really what's up to me.
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Um, the results are really up to god.
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And the reason why i learned this was because, you know,
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When my son was born, i mean, we thought this kid's going
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To be healthy.
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Like, you know, i mean, zero
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Anticipation for anything going wrong.
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But from the day he was born,
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For many years, we had so many complications.
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And not even just one complication.
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Um, he was a nicu baby.
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And then eventually, um, he started to get eczema, but not
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Just typical eczema.
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So we took him to the allergist and they gave us a packet this
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Thick and they said, this is everything he's allergic to.
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Oh, wow.
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Um, and they would rate each one.
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And i mean, this kid was
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Allergic to the dust in the air.
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He was allergic to even the most non-allergenic
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Um, foods like in fruits.
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And so i'm like, what is he gonna eat?
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He's going to starve, right?
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And so it was, it was really stressful because every day we
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Would have to, um, bathe him in like oat milk like baths
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And, you know,
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Um, and i mean, we prayed.
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Oh, we prayed.
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People from all over the world prayed.
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We fasted.
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I remember when he was turning three, i, i got a costco sized
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Olive oil jar and i, i anointed him in the bathtub because in
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The name of jesus-- i, i mean, i was desperate, you know, and i
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Just could not connect my
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Theology with what i was experiencing.
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You know, like what i knew of god was just not what i was
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Experiencing of god.
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And it was starting to make me very bitter.
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And like to the point when other people needed healing, i
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Kind of just didn't feel like praying for them,
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You know?
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I think feeling like you want to give up is real.
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I think first i want to acknowledge that.
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Uh, so we've all felt that way.
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So you're not alone.
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That's the first thing i would say.
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Second, and probably most importantly, our timeline is
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Not what we understand.
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So just like i always want to hear from my kids,
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I don't want them to stop talking to me just because i
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Don't respond the way that they may want me to respond.
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I always want to hear from them.
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And i think god wants the same thing of us.
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So keep leaning in.
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Keep talking.
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You are being heard.
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I remember finally, you know, we kind of at a certain point
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Came to terms that maybe this is it and maybe like, this is
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Just his life, and he's never
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Going to eat pizza at birthday parties.
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He's never going to have ice cream.
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Like, you know, we just started
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To kind of settle into that idea.
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And i remember i saw a conference ad show up and my
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Heart just jumped and i felt the lord unction me to
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Go to that conference.
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And i remember thinking, i don't-- i don't want to go.
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You know, i'm tired.
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I'm a, you know, i'm a postpartum mom.
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You know, because i had another one at that time and like, i
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Was just exhausted.
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But then i felt the lord challenge me.
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You need to get back into position.
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And that's, you know, when the revelation,
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Oh, like faith is an action.
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Love is a mission, but hope is a position.
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It's a position of expectation that god's going to do
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Something good. yeah. right.
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And so it's a posture, right?
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It's a posture of anticipation.
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And i felt the lord tell me you went out of position.
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You need to get back into position and start expecting
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Things from me. i love that.
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And so i go to this conference and it's a prayer conference,
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You guys.
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And it was in an open air stadium.
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It rained for like, i'm pretty sure 13 hours.
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And so i was literally at a
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Point standing in the rain, like--
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Thanks. really, god?
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Like you know, really? and just not having the hope
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Or desire to contend.
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Right? i didn't have it in me, but i remember at night, the
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Air cleared or the clouds cleared and someone came up on
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Stage and said, i feel led to pray for healing over eczema
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And allergies. mhm.
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And my jaded heart was like, well, he's not here, you know?
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But i felt the unction of the
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Lord saying, get back into position.
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Yeah.
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And so i raised my hand and all these people came around me to
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Pray, you know?
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And like i said, when we have a set agenda of how healing
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Should work, we get caught up in that agenda.
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We're not called to an agenda.
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We're called to faith.
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Right? and i felt the lord lead me to faith.
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And you know what?
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I came home and up until this point, my son has been double
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Socked on his hands and his feet and had wool onesies even
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In 90 degree weather.
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We took them off and they never went back on.
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Oh praise the lord started to heal him.
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Slowly but surely over time,
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We would add foods and, you
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Know, all these different new activities.
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And it was just walking into a
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Gradual miracle and so-- beautiful.
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Yes, can god heal in a second?
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Yes. can god heal over time?
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Yes. yeah.
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Does god heal when we enter into eternity?
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Yes. you know, like,
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Yeah, just leaving the agenda
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Out of it, but keeping the expectation great.
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Wow.
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Suffering is so--
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It's just so painful for so many because even now i know
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There are people watching,
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Oh man, you've been praying and you've been believing.
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And, you know, as you gave the example of, you know, putting
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The baby in the bathtub with the oil and it's like, and you
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Still don't see it. yeah.
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Um, what strikes me is, um, this is in hebrews four
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Beginning at verse,
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Let's see, 15. it says we do not have a high priest who is
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Unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who
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Has been tempted in every way, just as we are,
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Yet he did not sin.
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The reason why i think that's significant is because if you
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Go back to the garden of gethsemane
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And we think about jesus and how you know he's fully god and
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Fully man, and he literally comes here for one mission,
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Comes here for the cross, right?
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Like we know that's why he comes.
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Bible says, he said to
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The disciples who were with him,
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My soul is overwhelmed with sorrow to the point of death.
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Stay here and keep watch with me, says, going a little
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Farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, my
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Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me.
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Think about that for a minute.
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Jesus, who knew why he was here,
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Was so overwhelmed with sorrow and grief that he said, father,
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If you can change this mission, please do. that to me
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Lets me know that even in our
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Deepest grief and hurt, he understands.
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Come on. he understands.
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Um, part of my ministry i work with with women who are
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Confronting similar issues like this.
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I'm working with a woman right now who got a terminal
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Diagnosis, and she's like, i've been praying and praying and
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Praying and praying and praying and praying.
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And it's like every time i go to the doctor, my numbers are
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Getting worse, and my heart breaks because i know on the
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One hand she's like, i'm praying.
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I'm praying for healing.
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And then on the other hand, i'm thinking, jesus is with you.
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Even in that, like he knows what it's like
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To wish it was different.
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Like, he knows what it's like. god knows what it's like to
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Wish things were different.
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And what he says, though, is he says, yet not as i will,
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But as you will.
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If i had my choice, things would be different,
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Yet not as i will.
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As you will.
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Why? because even though this is the worst thing that could
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Have ever happened to me, you are still good in it.
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And i know that through this, your perfect will will result
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In the opportunity for eternal life.
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There's always a reason in it.
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Do i know? no.
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Some of us will not find out until we reach glory.
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Lord, why did i have to walk through this thing?
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I guess the encouragement that i would offer though, is you
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Serve a savior who is in it with you.
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Yeah. that's so good.
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There's no depth of grief that we have suffered that he is
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Unfamiliar with.
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Um. i have lost babies.
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Um, and that is a grief that is very hard to even articulate.
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And the father lost his only begotten son
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Had to literally send him to
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Die for people who were his enemies.
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Even in that, i know that god understands the grief.
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And so that's just my encouragement is like, just
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Know that you're not alone. you're not alone in it.
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God is in it with you.
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It doesn't make sense.
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I can't explain it,
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But i do know that you're not alone.
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Christ's suffering holds the key to how we handle our own
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And how we experience healing
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Because he went through what we went through.
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He is the priest that understands he could have
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Compassion for us because he has been a human on this earth.
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And so we know that we're looking to a healer that
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Understands the pain.
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We are looking to a healer that is full of mercy, that could
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Have compassion over what we are going through.
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He understands.
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The thing i love about that is
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That what jesus did with his pain,
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It says that christ was tempted in every way like us, and yet
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He did not sin.
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So obviously questioning,
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Asking is it possible, is not a sin.
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But then he processes his pain in the presence of his father.
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Yes, i love the fact that jesus tells the truth.
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Yeah.
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You know, i mean, luke makes it clear because he's a doctor,
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That christ was so stressed that literally his blood
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Vessels were bursting. yes.
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Um, and that still happens today.
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Rarely, but it happens when people are being walked to
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Their execution. yeah.
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Called hematohidrosis.
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I can't imagine the stress and the anguish.
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So if it's okay for jesus to do that--
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Yeah.
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We must understand that we get to tell god the whole truth,
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Because i think one of the greatest ways to find healing
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Is to be able to to tell god the whole truth
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And to be honest. i think that's why
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He says, come to me when you are weary and heavy laden,
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Because he knows what that's like.
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So he's not saying, come to me because i'm just going to
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Comfort you in an abstract way.
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He's like, no, come to me because i know what it's like
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To carry that. i've been there.
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And i want to exchange what you're carrying for my rest
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Because i know you can't handle it.
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I as god, i was like, hey, can you please take this from me?
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So i know you as a human being, can't handle it.
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That is his promise to us is come to me.
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Yeah, come to me. so good.
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And i also think
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There's a lot that we can
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Choose in how we respond to faith.
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And i, and i think about times that i was so desperate and i
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Was desperate for so long--
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I mean, i too have lost babies and i, i'm so grateful.
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I have two, and i am-- they're miracles
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In the first place, right?
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We were told we were infertile, which is a very ugly word.
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Um, and i just remember feeling completely hopeless, and there
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Was nothing left, and what actually
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Saved me was a community of believers that i could
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Borrow their faith. yeah. that's good.
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And i think we forget because we're such an individualist,
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Like western culture, right?
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It's us, me.
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I'm by myself, and i don't want to share my stuff
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Sometimes because i don't-- either
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The shame involved, especially when it has to do with
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Your body, right? oh, yeah.
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Like there's shame involved and there's just like, well,
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There's that comparison trap where it's like, oh, they were
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Healed, but i'm not. i must have--
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And then you hear things of like, what unconfessed sin do
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You have in your life?
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Right? which is all not like theologically correct.
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But it is very much a, we put that on ourselves.
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And i think what is most important in this, especially
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If you are going through this time where you don't even know
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Where to pull faith from, is that there is a community.
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And if you don't have a community, this is like the
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First reminder that maybe it's time to invest in one.
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That's good. go to church.
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Go find people.
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Find people who can hold you accountable, not just for what
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You-- not things that you need to work on, but like
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Reminding you that god is good in your life and that you're
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Called and you're made with purpose.
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Yeah.
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And so, um, i think i'm really grateful for friendships like
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This that-- you know, i know sometimes we will marco.polo or
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Text each other and just, how are you doing?
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You know, like, and i think just the reminder, um, not only
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Receiving it, but also being the person that's when you
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Think of somebody, go ahead and text them.
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Yeah. like, don't wait on it.
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You don't ever know what that's going to be.
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So true.
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So one of the most important parts of this walk of faith is
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Being in a community with people who can speak life over
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You, who can encourage you, who can uplift you in the seasons
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When you may feel like you're alone, or you may feel like
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God doesn't hear you.
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My oldest son is 16 now, but when he was born, he was born
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At 26 weeks, three and a half months early.
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He was given a 50 over 50 chance of survival.
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And i can tell you, there were many days and many nights when
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I wasn't sure what was going to happen.
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I was praying, but i wasn't really praying in faith because
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I was so afraid of getting a call telling me that something
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Happened to my son.
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But it was the community of people around me who were
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Speaking the word of god to me, who were letting me know they
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Were praying with me and for my son
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That actually gave me borrowed courage.
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And i think that's the power of community, is that when you are
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Maybe running on fumes of faith, your community can
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Actually lend you theirs.
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That will actually give you the strength to wait on god.
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I think when we talk about healing, especially in the
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Christian circles, it's,
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It's easy to feel like
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You have failed when the healing does not come.
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Right?
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You know, um, and then there's this pressure of being worthy
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Of the healing, you know, and um, like that healing is the,
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The performance that if you don't have that glitzy
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Testimony, then you are not a good believer or something
00:28:02.938 --> 00:28:07.843
Along those lines, you know, and, you know, so i really
00:28:07.843 --> 00:28:11.480
Appreciate the fact that we're really emphasizing, you know,
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What we can do as we endure the journey of healing and as we
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Continue to believe, yet not deny reality.
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Yeah.
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That's good. yeah.
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When i was 19, i had this really rare autoimmune disease.
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Um, and i mean, to the point where they sent me to mayo
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Clinic and i was like next door to the prince of saudi arabia.
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Like, i always like to tell that to people.
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Like you claim to fame.
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That is my only claim to fame.
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You know, but
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Um, but yeah, like, it was such a rare autoimmune disease that,
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You know, it had to be in a very specific location and, uh,
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Oh my goodness, like we prayed. you know, and i remember
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Reading luke and getting so agitated because luke is a
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Doctor and he focuses so much on healing.
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I'm like, what do they have that i don't?
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Yeah, you know, i serve church.
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I, you know, i like, i even had somebody come over and put
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Like, lay on my body like the prophets did of old, you know,
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And pray for me, you know?
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Um, i mean, and so i think the frustration there is, what am i
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Not doing that's not producing this?
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Yeah.
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Right? when actually the power is in the lord, you know, and i
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Think something in that process is we have to really surrender
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And yield to the reality that we are actually powerless, and
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We need to accept, acknowledge
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And lean on an all powerful god.
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It's his fruit, not mine. right.
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There's been a time in my life when i needed to borrow the
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Faith of others.
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And it was actually, um, about a year ago when i was going
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Through some illnesses.
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And at that time, it was just like an onslaught of mysterious
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Symptoms and months and months and months of blood panels,
00:30:08.197 --> 00:30:12.902
Trying to figure out where the problem was.
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And i really felt a bit hopeless in that.
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But i remember talking to someone actually from better
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Together, and we were talking about what i was going through,
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And she just looked at me straight in the eye and she
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Said, god will heal you.
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And i remember i did not believe a word of it
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Because i was just going through it.
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But she was so assured. and you know what?
00:30:34.023 --> 00:30:37.693
In a couple of months, some
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People prayed over me and i got healed.
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And when i looked back, i realized, wow, the lord knew
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That my faith needed some resuscitation.
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And so he surrounded me with people of great faith to help
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Me breathe with my faith once again.
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You know, i think of people in the bible.
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I mean, all the disciples were crucified and hung and all the
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Things. and so we look at martyrs in the bible.
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Mhm.
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Dying for their faith, dying in faith.
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Right. and so here as christians, we can go through
00:31:14.730 --> 00:31:18.767
Things believing to the very end.
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Absolutely.
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And so where's the difference there?
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Yeah. you know, in staying faithful to god, where i just
00:31:25.207 --> 00:31:30.679
Think that believing, trusting, trusting is such,
00:31:30.679 --> 00:31:35.851
Such a huge thing.
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I think that's what we do.
00:31:36.685 --> 00:31:38.654
My cousin's, uh, grandbaby is three years old.
00:31:38.654 --> 00:31:43.225
His name is uriah, and a couple days after christmas, they
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Found a four inch tumor in the back of his head.
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And uriah's life has changed.
00:31:52.234 --> 00:31:53.969
That family's life has changed, you know?
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But believing, but trusting through the process, knowing
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That we have a sovereign god, that nothing is out of his
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Hands or out of his control, that all things
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Work together for good.
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God will turn whatever, the good, the bad, and the ugly.
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God uses everything.
00:32:14.056 --> 00:32:16.191
Nothing's wasted in the kingdom of god to transform, to redeem,
00:32:16.191 --> 00:32:21.263
To restore, to purpose things that that need to be, you know,
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And so trust in god in these times of trial and thinking,
00:32:26.168 --> 00:32:31.774
What am i doing wrong?
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What am i not doing right?
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Where's-- you know, i'm a person of great faith, man.
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I believe. i know what the word says about it.
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I know how to believe for it.
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And now i feel like i don't know what faith even is
00:32:44.653 --> 00:32:48.590
Looking at my circumstances, i've been there.
00:32:48.590 --> 00:32:52.061
I have been there going, man, i don't even know what faith is
00:32:52.061 --> 00:32:55.597
Because it's not the way i thought it would work out, but
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Trusting and still believing god in those times, god turns
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It for his glory somehow, someway.
00:33:04.606 --> 00:33:08.343
And we don't get to know all that.
00:33:08.343 --> 00:33:10.179
He holds both. and the bible holds tension.
00:33:10.179 --> 00:33:13.649
Absolutely. there's clear tension
00:33:13.649 --> 00:33:15.184
In the mystery of god that we won't know till we see him.
00:33:15.184 --> 00:33:18.887
And we're reading scripture, right?
00:33:18.887 --> 00:33:20.355
Like you said, they're martyrs, and we're reading scripture
00:33:20.355 --> 00:33:23.258
With the end in front of us.
00:33:23.258 --> 00:33:25.527
And we know what happened after they were martyred, all the, all
00:33:25.527 --> 00:33:29.264
The, you know, disciples.
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But did they in that time?
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I'm pretty sure that they were like, this is not
00:33:33.001 --> 00:33:35.404
What i signed up for.
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But they also had that faith that kept going.
00:33:36.738 --> 00:33:39.308
And, and i wonder sometimes, like for us, we've all read,
00:33:39.308 --> 00:33:43.278
You know, narnia books, right?
00:33:43.278 --> 00:33:44.546
So the lion, the witch and the wardrobe, there's that, that
00:33:44.546 --> 00:33:46.381
Part where, um, they're looking
00:33:46.381 --> 00:33:48.150
At aslan, which is the jesus figure.
00:33:48.150 --> 00:33:50.152
And he says, is he safe?
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And, and the answer is, no, he's not safe, but he's good.
00:33:52.321 --> 00:33:57.159
Yeah. right.
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And i think if we are-- not i think. i know if we take
00:33:58.360 --> 00:34:02.598
Up that cross and if we choose to follow him,
00:34:02.598 --> 00:34:06.268
Nothing about this life
00:34:06.268 --> 00:34:08.370
Or the wholeness to it,
00:34:08.370 --> 00:34:09.538
Nothing about that is safe.
00:34:09.538 --> 00:34:11.173
Yeah, but we serve a good god, and it's eternity.
00:34:11.173 --> 00:34:13.976
We're talking about a
00:34:13.976 --> 00:34:14.977
Long-term timeline that we don't understand.
00:34:14.977 --> 00:34:17.546
And in all things, he is good. absolutely.
00:34:17.546 --> 00:34:20.182
No matter what.
00:34:20.182 --> 00:34:22.751
When god says, i'll work all things together for your good,
00:34:22.751 --> 00:34:25.087
What he's saying is, even though a circumstance may not
00:34:25.087 --> 00:34:28.390
Be good. because i am good,
00:34:28.390 --> 00:34:30.926
I will cause even that to be knit together into the divine
00:34:30.926 --> 00:34:35.097
Story and purpose i have for
00:34:35.097 --> 00:34:36.465
Your life to ultimately produce good.
00:34:36.465 --> 00:34:39.568
It isn't that the experience is good or the feelings are good.
00:34:39.568 --> 00:34:43.038
It's that our good god makes it work together for his good
00:34:43.038 --> 00:34:47.109
Purpose for us.
00:34:47.109 --> 00:34:49.144
As i'm sitting here and we're talking like i, i feel like a
00:34:49.144 --> 00:34:52.781
Weight in my spirit, which is that there's somebody watching
00:34:52.781 --> 00:34:56.151
This who you're saying, yes, i know god is good.
00:34:56.151 --> 00:35:00.088
Yes, i trust god and i still wish my child was here.
00:35:00.088 --> 00:35:05.694
Oh. yeah.
00:35:05.694 --> 00:35:06.528
I still wish my husband was here.
00:35:06.528 --> 00:35:08.397
Yeah.
00:35:08.397 --> 00:35:09.498
And i just want to say, i feel this is necessary.
00:35:09.498 --> 00:35:12.501
You have permission to be hurt,
00:35:12.501 --> 00:35:14.269
And you have permission to be angry.
00:35:14.269 --> 00:35:16.104
Yeah.
00:35:16.104 --> 00:35:16.905
You have permission.
00:35:16.905 --> 00:35:18.173
And i'm saying that because part of what makes us bitter,
00:35:18.173 --> 00:35:22.010
Part of what makes us resentful is when we don't express how we
00:35:22.010 --> 00:35:25.814
Actually feel.
00:35:25.814 --> 00:35:27.249
The thing is, god knows you're angry.
00:35:27.249 --> 00:35:30.385
He knows that you're sad.
00:35:30.385 --> 00:35:32.621
And it isn't a mark of being a good christian to
00:35:32.621 --> 00:35:35.991
Pretend you're okay. that's true.
00:35:35.991 --> 00:35:37.826
And i just want to for whoever needs this,
00:35:37.826 --> 00:35:39.928
I just want to give you permission to go to god
00:35:39.928 --> 00:35:43.298
With how you feel.
00:35:43.298 --> 00:35:45.567
That's where healing starts, is
00:35:45.567 --> 00:35:47.502
Acknowledgment and being honest.
00:35:47.502 --> 00:35:49.838
And it's so funny.
00:35:49.838 --> 00:35:50.572
Sometimes we think if i just
00:35:50.572 --> 00:35:51.773
Don't say it, then it's not true.
00:35:51.773 --> 00:35:54.142
No. you're angry.
00:35:54.142 --> 00:35:56.211
You have questions.
00:35:56.211 --> 00:35:57.779
Yeah. and god is saying, come to me.
00:35:57.779 --> 00:36:00.949
Yeah.
00:36:00.949 --> 00:36:02.184
I may not give you the answer for why it was necessary.
00:36:02.184 --> 00:36:04.086
You may not even know until you
00:36:04.086 --> 00:36:06.088
Reach glory, but bring it to me.
00:36:06.088 --> 00:36:08.624
And i just, i just felt the need to say that because it's
00:36:08.624 --> 00:36:11.159
Like, i just felt this weight where it's like, i agree with
00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:13.795
Everything you're saying intellectually, but my heart
00:36:13.795 --> 00:36:16.865
Is still broken. that's so good.
00:36:16.865 --> 00:36:19.067
God says that he is near to the brokenhearted.
00:36:19.067 --> 00:36:22.104
He's near you and what he's inviting you to do, even in
00:36:22.104 --> 00:36:24.740
This moment, even after this episode is to get before him
00:36:24.740 --> 00:36:29.177
And just express how you feel.
00:36:29.177 --> 00:36:32.014
Um, and that invites god into
00:36:32.014 --> 00:36:34.349
It to say, daughter, i see you. son,
00:36:34.349 --> 00:36:37.185
I see you, and i am still with you.
00:36:37.185 --> 00:36:40.922
You know, i'm always inspired by someone walking in faith.
00:36:40.922 --> 00:36:44.559
No matter what your circumstances are,
00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:47.029
No matter what the outcome is,
00:36:47.029 --> 00:36:48.897
We serve a great father.
00:36:48.897 --> 00:36:50.732
We serve a good father.
00:36:50.732 --> 00:36:52.768
And to see people walking through things that are
00:36:52.768 --> 00:36:56.672
Difficult and still worshiping and still praising, there is
00:36:56.672 --> 00:37:01.510
Nothing that i admire more in somebody that can do that.
00:37:01.510 --> 00:37:06.515
Somebody that believes to the end, somebody that says, as for
00:37:06.515 --> 00:37:11.520
Me and my house, we will serve the lord.
00:37:11.520 --> 00:37:14.089
I am the healed of the lord.
00:37:14.089 --> 00:37:16.525
And it's not as pretending that nothing's wrong, but it's
00:37:16.525 --> 00:37:20.495
Believing in a god that jesus died for my healing.
00:37:20.495 --> 00:37:25.067
Absolutely. mind,
00:37:25.067 --> 00:37:27.636
Soul, and spirit.
00:37:27.636 --> 00:37:29.071
Spirit, soul, and body.
00:37:29.071 --> 00:37:31.239
Jesus died for it all.
00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:33.508
He was wounded for our transgressions.
00:37:33.508 --> 00:37:35.711
He was bruised for our iniquities.
00:37:35.711 --> 00:37:37.813
The stripes on his back paid for my healing.
00:37:37.813 --> 00:37:40.916
By his stripes i am healed.
00:37:40.916 --> 00:37:42.517
I believe every word of that.
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And so that's what i live.
00:37:44.820 --> 00:37:46.555
That's what i walk.
00:37:46.555 --> 00:37:48.090
And you know what? i'll believe to the end.
00:37:48.090 --> 00:37:50.258
I believe to the end of god's word.
00:37:50.258 --> 00:37:52.894
No matter what my outcome is, it does not change god's goodness.
00:37:52.894 --> 00:37:56.665
It does not change his character.
00:37:56.665 --> 00:37:58.300
It does not change his love.
00:37:58.300 --> 00:38:00.001
It does not change his promises.
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God is a good, good father.
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I remember one of the most meaningful conversations i had.
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I was working with youth with a mission at the time, and we
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Were doing this mission in actually in hawaii, i think.
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And one evening in the meeting, it was a preacher from nigeria,
00:38:26.529 --> 00:38:29.632
A very powerful preacher.
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And i had made friends with a boy whose name was john.
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And he was-- he'd had a terrible motor accident as a motorcycle
00:38:35.738 --> 00:38:39.609
Accident as a child, and was paralyzed from the waist down.
00:38:39.609 --> 00:38:45.648
And that night, the evangelist got up on stage and he said,
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Tonight, god has told me very clearly every single person who
00:38:49.352 --> 00:38:53.189
Needs healing is going to be healed tonight.
00:38:53.189 --> 00:38:55.525
Well, i'm at the front because i've been leading worship and
00:38:55.525 --> 00:38:57.727
I'm thinking, where's john? where's john?
00:38:57.727 --> 00:38:59.128
That's all i could think. and i was so excited.
00:38:59.128 --> 00:39:02.131
And so he preached and then he prayed for healing.
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And then he was kind of taken off into his car and the tent
00:39:05.601 --> 00:39:09.939
Started to empty. and i'm looking.
00:39:09.939 --> 00:39:11.607
And eventually the only two people left in the tent are me
00:39:11.607 --> 00:39:14.610
And john, and he's in his wheelchair.
00:39:14.610 --> 00:39:17.346
And i went up to him and i had tears rolling down my face and
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He said, no, no, no. he said, don't.
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You don't understand.
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I believe with every cell of my being that god can heal me.
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But until he does, i will worship him from here.
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And i thought there was
00:39:32.361 --> 00:39:33.196
Something so powerful about that.
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I'm not blaming the guy that was praying because i didn't--
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I'm not blaming this.
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:38.901
I'm just, you know-- and god is god all by himself.
00:39:38.901 --> 00:39:42.371
Yes. and can he do it?
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Absolutely. but even if he does-- it's like shadrach,
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Meshach, and abednego.
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We believe god can deliver us.
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But if he doesn't, we're still not going to bow down.
00:39:50.913 --> 00:39:53.516
Yeah, but the whole thought of
00:39:53.516 --> 00:39:54.750
Until then, i'll worship him from my wheelchair.
00:39:54.750 --> 00:39:57.553
That's so good.
00:39:57.553 --> 00:39:58.855
And i mean, i love that we are holding that tension right now.
00:39:58.855 --> 00:40:03.826
Yeah.
00:40:03.826 --> 00:40:04.994
You know, because yes, we believe in a powerful god
00:40:04.994 --> 00:40:07.663
And he can heal. yes.
00:40:07.663 --> 00:40:09.298
And the breakthrough can happen in a moment.
00:40:09.298 --> 00:40:11.834
The walls of jericho can fall, right?
00:40:11.834 --> 00:40:14.670
So there's no denying that fact.
00:40:14.670 --> 00:40:16.572
But there's just something so
00:40:16.572 --> 00:40:18.541
Holy as we stand in the in between.
00:40:18.541 --> 00:40:21.544
You know, i'm thinking about habakkuk who was like, what,
00:40:21.544 --> 00:40:26.115
What's going on? like he's-- all of habakkuk
00:40:26.115 --> 00:40:28.217
Is just him questioning god, right?
00:40:28.217 --> 00:40:30.786
What are we doing here? right? what are we doing here?
00:40:30.786 --> 00:40:32.922
But it culminates to,
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And i'll praise you anyways. yes.
00:40:35.191 --> 00:40:37.293
You know, and then you have job who for chapters on chapters is
00:40:37.293 --> 00:40:44.433
Navigating his pain and his suffering.
00:40:44.433 --> 00:40:47.603
And you know what?
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Those children of his that died, they didn't come back.
00:40:49.071 --> 00:40:53.242
But then yet in chapter 42 verse five, he says, i had
00:40:53.242 --> 00:40:57.547
Heard reports about you, but
00:40:57.547 --> 00:40:59.348
Now my eyes have seen you, right?
00:40:59.348 --> 00:41:03.286
There's just something to be
00:41:03.286 --> 00:41:05.988
Seen, a revelation in that journey.
00:41:05.988 --> 00:41:09.792
Yeah. you know, and, and this is not to say like, oh, you
00:41:09.792 --> 00:41:14.530
Know, be grateful for that in-between time.
00:41:14.530 --> 00:41:17.466
And you should just hold that hope.
00:41:17.466 --> 00:41:18.935
No, we're going to keep contending for that healing and
00:41:18.935 --> 00:41:22.405
Believe in heaven on earth
00:41:22.405 --> 00:41:24.740
Until it's actually heaven on earth.
00:41:24.740 --> 00:41:26.309
Right? um, but as you stand in that friction, as you stand in
00:41:26.309 --> 00:41:31.581
That tension, knowing that if anything, you are walking into
00:41:31.581 --> 00:41:36.586
The deeper things of god's presence.
00:41:36.586 --> 00:41:38.955
And if we live with the purpose of knowing jesus intimately,
00:41:38.955 --> 00:41:43.159
Authentically, and passionately, then there is
00:41:43.159 --> 00:41:45.962
Worth and there is victory still in that.
00:41:45.962 --> 00:41:49.498
Worship will always shift our perspective to god from our
00:41:49.498 --> 00:41:54.136
Pain to to his goodness.
00:41:54.136 --> 00:41:56.305
I think it's very easy as humans to get lost in our
00:41:56.305 --> 00:42:01.444
Depravity, to get lost in our suffering, to get lost in
00:42:01.444 --> 00:42:04.981
Just kind of, and this is just saying it
00:42:04.981 --> 00:42:07.383
Lightly, like feeling sorry for ourselves.
00:42:07.383 --> 00:42:09.018
I know it's deeper than that.
00:42:09.018 --> 00:42:10.453
But when we worship god and when we talk about and we write
00:42:10.453 --> 00:42:14.457
Things that we're were thankful for--
00:42:14.457 --> 00:42:16.392
It's so important to have a gratitude journal.
00:42:16.392 --> 00:42:19.829
It takes your
00:42:19.829 --> 00:42:23.899
Perspective off of what might be terrible, and it
00:42:23.899 --> 00:42:27.637
Focuses it on what is good and what is consistent and what is
00:42:27.637 --> 00:42:31.207
Right, which is god.
00:42:31.207 --> 00:42:33.109
And once you do that, you realize, oh, okay, i can,
00:42:33.109 --> 00:42:36.145
I can do this.
00:42:36.145 --> 00:42:37.480
Not that everything's perfect, but you can do it.
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:39.115
The psalms are full of this. pray the psalms.
00:42:39.115 --> 00:42:40.950
It starts out with god, why have you forsaken me?
00:42:40.950 --> 00:42:43.019
And it ends up with, but you are a good god.
00:42:43.019 --> 00:42:44.954
Like, it's not the first time anyone in this world has
00:42:44.954 --> 00:42:47.923
Experienced it, but it is good to have the practice of
00:42:47.923 --> 00:42:51.594
Shifting your perspective to who he is and reminding
00:42:51.594 --> 00:42:56.065
Yourself that he is in control.
00:42:56.065 --> 00:42:59.368
I think that so many times we think the things that aren't
00:42:59.368 --> 00:43:02.071
Right or the things that are
00:43:02.071 --> 00:43:03.372
Broken that those cannot be used.
00:43:03.372 --> 00:43:05.808
But what if that is in fact a ministry?
00:43:05.808 --> 00:43:08.177
I just i just had the visual of someone who, like you, live
00:43:08.177 --> 00:43:12.415
Your life in pain.
00:43:12.415 --> 00:43:13.883
Like maybe it's fibromyalgia.
00:43:13.883 --> 00:43:15.351
You just live your life in a constant state of pain.
00:43:15.351 --> 00:43:18.254
What if your ministry is worshiping through the pain?
00:43:18.254 --> 00:43:22.558
What if your ministry is being an example of what it looks
00:43:22.558 --> 00:43:26.295
Like to still choose god in spite of the pain?
00:43:26.295 --> 00:43:32.101
That to me is a greater ministry than the most powerful
00:43:32.101 --> 00:43:36.472
Orator on earth. yeah.
00:43:36.472 --> 00:43:38.007
As a person to say, i live my life in a constant
00:43:38.007 --> 00:43:41.911
State of pain, and yet i still trust god and i still know
00:43:41.911 --> 00:43:45.147
God is good.
00:43:45.147 --> 00:43:46.315
To me, that is far more powerful than having millions
00:43:46.315 --> 00:43:51.153
Of followers, than having best-selling books.
00:43:51.153 --> 00:43:53.389
Like, to be able to say, my life
00:43:53.389 --> 00:43:56.525
Is not good, but my god is still,
00:43:56.525 --> 00:43:59.528
That's a testimony.
00:43:59.528 --> 00:44:00.796
And what that says in heaven--
00:44:00.796 --> 00:44:02.098
I mean, scripture tells us the angels lean and watch and look
00:44:02.098 --> 00:44:05.735
In watching god work out our salvation.
00:44:05.735 --> 00:44:08.704
I mean, i just think of somebody who's in a position
00:44:08.704 --> 00:44:11.240
Like that and gets down on their knees and says, god,
00:44:11.240 --> 00:44:13.542
You're still good.
00:44:13.542 --> 00:44:14.810
It's like it causes celebration in heaven.
00:44:14.810 --> 00:44:17.346
I'm sure it just intensifies
00:44:17.346 --> 00:44:19.482
The weight of the worship, right?
00:44:19.482 --> 00:44:20.983
Right.
00:44:20.983 --> 00:44:21.851
And healing happens in so many ways.
00:44:21.851 --> 00:44:22.752
Yeah.
00:44:22.752 --> 00:44:23.986
We, i think we're a little close minded to, to think that
00:44:23.986 --> 00:44:27.389
Healing can only happen for what we're asking.
00:44:27.389 --> 00:44:29.992
Right? so my father, his body wasn't healed in this lifetime,
00:44:29.992 --> 00:44:35.297
But his soul, it was.
00:44:35.297 --> 00:44:38.000
Yeah. right.
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:39.235
I, i think again, is that aligned with what god wanted?
00:44:39.235 --> 00:44:44.206
I don't think he wanted him to suffer.
00:44:44.206 --> 00:44:46.142
Yeah. but eternity.
00:44:46.142 --> 00:44:48.310
Yeah.
00:44:48.310 --> 00:44:49.478
Who says a healed body is better than healed heart?
00:44:49.478 --> 00:44:51.380
Exactly. exactly right. so good.
00:44:51.380 --> 00:44:55.317
You know, i think a lot what suffering does for us is it
00:44:55.317 --> 00:44:58.254
Gives us compassion.
00:44:58.254 --> 00:44:59.889
The bible talks about jesus being moved with compassion for
00:44:59.889 --> 00:45:03.526
The people who knew what they were going through.
00:45:03.526 --> 00:45:06.495
He was moved with compassion and i think suffering--
00:45:06.495 --> 00:45:11.801
God holds the mystery of life and death of, of of physical
00:45:11.801 --> 00:45:17.907
Healing and going to heaven.
00:45:17.907 --> 00:45:19.341
All the tension in that, he holds it.
00:45:19.341 --> 00:45:22.244
He sees it from the beginning to the end.
00:45:22.244 --> 00:45:24.547
Our job is to walk in faith.
00:45:24.547 --> 00:45:27.116
We're not moved by what we hear or what we see.
00:45:27.116 --> 00:45:30.486
We're moved by what the word of god says.
00:45:30.486 --> 00:45:33.355
And so the mystery of god is that he's he sees the beginning
00:45:33.355 --> 00:45:38.294
From the end.
00:45:38.294 --> 00:45:39.895
And he has a plan, and he is a sovereign god.
00:45:39.895 --> 00:45:43.899
And our job is to trust,
00:45:43.899 --> 00:45:46.135
Walk in obedience, and, and have faith.
00:45:46.135 --> 00:45:50.272
And so i know, i know sometimes it's really hard.
00:45:50.272 --> 00:45:56.846
And so being moved with compassion,
00:45:56.846 --> 00:46:00.850
I pray that your faith is strong.
00:46:00.850 --> 00:46:03.419
I pray that there-- god says his grace is sufficient for us.
00:46:03.419 --> 00:46:08.090
I pray that the grace of god absolutely pours over your life
00:46:08.090 --> 00:46:13.529
In a way that gives you the peace, that passes all
00:46:13.529 --> 00:46:16.365
Understanding, that gives you a joy that's unspeakable, that
00:46:16.365 --> 00:46:21.003
Gives you a wholeness in your mind and your soul and your
00:46:21.003 --> 00:46:24.540
Body, something that you've never experienced before.
00:46:24.540 --> 00:46:28.110
I pray that your faith is strong today.
00:46:28.110 --> 00:46:31.547
When i was young, i, um, i didn't know it then, but i
00:46:31.547 --> 00:46:36.752
Always had like an overcast, you know, when it comes to just
00:46:36.752 --> 00:46:41.023
Life, like everything just felt dreary and dark and--
00:46:41.023 --> 00:46:47.029
I can't even imagine. that's what i'm saying.
00:46:47.029 --> 00:46:48.931
You know what i'm saying?
00:46:48.931 --> 00:46:50.032
You know, but like, and i basically, like, i have
00:46:50.032 --> 00:46:54.637
Struggled with anxiety and depression all my life.
00:46:54.637 --> 00:46:58.707
And once i became a believer and they say joy is a fruit of
00:46:58.707 --> 00:47:01.944
The spirit, i felt like, well, man, i'm just not fruitful
00:47:01.944 --> 00:47:05.881
Because i struggle with anxiety and depression.
00:47:05.881 --> 00:47:08.884
And, um, in my adult years, i got a blood panel and they
00:47:08.884 --> 00:47:12.588
Said, well, actually you have genetic mutations and you have
00:47:12.588 --> 00:47:17.760
Out of all the genetic mutations you can have,
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:19.528
You have all of them.
00:47:19.528 --> 00:47:21.597
And so actually-- the genetic mutation lottery.
00:47:21.597 --> 00:47:24.166
There you go. wow.
00:47:24.166 --> 00:47:25.434
And so my doctor was just like, i want you to know
00:47:25.434 --> 00:47:28.370
You're not crazy, you know?
00:47:28.370 --> 00:47:30.506
And that was so freeing, right?
00:47:30.506 --> 00:47:32.908
So affirming.
00:47:32.908 --> 00:47:34.209
And so, you know, from there, it was navigating, okay, like,
00:47:34.209 --> 00:47:36.912
What does healing look like for me,
00:47:36.912 --> 00:47:38.714
Right? and why is it that god isn't just like, let me fix
00:47:38.714 --> 00:47:41.884
That for you, you know? but can i tell you how many times
00:47:41.884 --> 00:47:46.121
People have said, i just feel joy off of you.
00:47:46.121 --> 00:47:50.092
Right? i feel like joy.
00:47:50.092 --> 00:47:51.560
And i'm like, really?
00:47:51.560 --> 00:47:53.562
Like, really, you know?
00:47:53.562 --> 00:47:55.197
But it's like, i didn't realize that in the midst of my battle
00:47:55.197 --> 00:48:00.502
That holy spirit was creating this joy.
00:48:00.502 --> 00:48:03.872
Yeah.
00:48:03.872 --> 00:48:04.873
You know, i just thought like, you know what?
00:48:04.873 --> 00:48:05.941
I'm just getting through this day.
00:48:05.941 --> 00:48:07.242
You know, i'm just getting through this day.
00:48:07.242 --> 00:48:09.244
The fruit, as you're saying, the ministry of that warfare,
00:48:09.244 --> 00:48:13.248
That marathon of faith.
00:48:13.248 --> 00:48:16.418
Most of us just want to sprint.
00:48:16.418 --> 00:48:18.253
And we're discouraged when we realize there's lengths to go.
00:48:18.253 --> 00:48:21.623
Yeah. right.
00:48:21.623 --> 00:48:22.624
But as i walk that or run or hopefully jog
00:48:22.624 --> 00:48:25.627
That marathon of faith, a ministry was birthed,
00:48:25.627 --> 00:48:30.065
You know, where people are like,
00:48:30.065 --> 00:48:32.334
Wait, i just feel peace off of you.
00:48:32.334 --> 00:48:34.069
I'm like, really?
00:48:34.069 --> 00:48:35.170
You know, and i feel joy off of you.
00:48:35.170 --> 00:48:37.072
I'm like, that has to be god. yeah.
00:48:37.072 --> 00:48:39.441
Because that's not from my body. yeah.
00:48:39.441 --> 00:48:41.043
You know what i mean?
00:48:41.043 --> 00:48:42.277
Well, but that's the thing, like you just said, is it's
00:48:42.277 --> 00:48:43.645
The fruit of the spirit.
00:48:43.645 --> 00:48:44.947
It's like the fruit of the work that has to happen. where there
00:48:44.947 --> 00:48:47.816
Is the deficit in the soul,
00:48:47.816 --> 00:48:49.618
The fruit has to fill it.
00:48:49.618 --> 00:48:51.487
And so people are getting the fruit.
00:48:51.487 --> 00:48:53.756
If you were the type of person that just, oh, everything's
00:48:53.756 --> 00:48:55.924
Just great, it's wonderful, guess what?
00:48:55.924 --> 00:48:57.893
You don't need that fruit
00:48:57.893 --> 00:48:58.794
Because that's just how you are. yeah.
00:48:58.794 --> 00:49:00.362
But the fact that god
00:49:00.362 --> 00:49:01.597
Has to work through you supernaturally,
00:49:01.597 --> 00:49:03.832
It creates fruit that everybody else can enjoy.
00:49:03.832 --> 00:49:06.235
Yeah. that's powerful.
00:49:06.235 --> 00:49:07.503
And we can really talk about this forever.
00:49:07.503 --> 00:49:09.138
I mean, the truth is, is we are acknowledging and we are
00:49:09.138 --> 00:49:12.708
Holding space that the miraculous and everything you
00:49:12.708 --> 00:49:16.612
Asked for could happen because god is good,
00:49:16.612 --> 00:49:18.680
And also the opposite of everything we're asking could
00:49:18.680 --> 00:49:21.784
Happen, but it's god's timing. god knows.
00:49:21.784 --> 00:49:24.586
And i just want to hold and acknowledge that right now for
00:49:24.586 --> 00:49:27.222
Our people that are viewing, uh, that we, we know life might
00:49:27.222 --> 00:49:33.162
Not be easy and it might not feel great, but we serve a god
00:49:33.162 --> 00:49:37.499
That it's still good. amen.
00:49:37.499 --> 00:49:39.368
So i just want to take a minute and just pray for all of our
00:49:39.368 --> 00:49:42.271
Viewers that might be feeling that. will you do that?
00:49:42.271 --> 00:49:45.007
Father, you are good. yes.
00:49:45.007 --> 00:49:47.109
We acknowledge that right now. even if we don't feel it, the
00:49:47.109 --> 00:49:49.645
Truth is you are still good.
00:49:49.645 --> 00:49:51.713
And god, i just pray that you would overwhelm the viewer
00:49:51.713 --> 00:49:55.284
Right now that that feels alone, that feels like they
00:49:55.284 --> 00:49:58.620
Were forgotten, that you would envelop them with your presence
00:49:58.620 --> 00:50:03.025
And your joy and your hope, and remind them that it goes beyond
00:50:03.025 --> 00:50:06.995
Any of our own understanding.
00:50:06.995 --> 00:50:08.297
But you, you've created us for this time and this season.
00:50:08.297 --> 00:50:13.469
And so of course, you haven't forgotten us.
00:50:13.469 --> 00:50:15.838
So, god, i pray for an extra helping of hope.
00:50:15.838 --> 00:50:19.141
Yes, lord.
00:50:19.141 --> 00:50:20.142
Uh, and just us feeling you and seeing you.
00:50:20.142 --> 00:50:23.579
And i thank you that you sent us your only son, uh, that knew
00:50:23.579 --> 00:50:28.484
About this because he experienced it himself.
00:50:28.484 --> 00:50:31.520
And so we bless you.
00:50:31.520 --> 00:50:32.688
And we thank you in jesus' name.
00:50:32.688 --> 00:50:35.858
Amen. amen.
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Experience Healing | Better Together Episode 1154

April 2, 2026 | S8 E1154 | 50:59

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