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Better Together | Gratitude Transforms Your Prayers - Episode 1118 | November 19, 2025
- Laurie crouch: "enter into his gates with thanksgiving and into
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- His courts with praise."
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- Throughout scripture, we're reminded to give god thanks.
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- Expressing gratitude when we pray also helps us pause to hear
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- His voice.
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- Come on, let's talk about it.
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- [music]
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- Sheila walsh: i feel like i've already received from every
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- Single one of you on the power of thanksgiving and how it
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- Changes you and how it changes your perspective, but one of the
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- Greatest lessons i learned was from billy graham's wife,
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- Ruth graham.
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- She was just one of the most amazing women in my life.
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- I first met her when i was singing at billy graham's
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- Crusades in england.
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- But when i went through the worst time in my life, ruth
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- Was amazing.
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- You know, i spent a month in a psychiatric hospital, and i felt
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- Like my life was really over at the end of it.
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- But she was the first person to call me and she said, "okay,
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- Bill's off in the crusade.
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- I want you to get on a plane tomorrow morning and come to
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- The house."
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- And i was like, "honestly, i don't think i can."
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- And she said, "no, i'm just saying to you, get on a plane
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- And come."
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- And so i did.
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- And it was--i was only there for, like, maybe three days,
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- I think.
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- But i learned so much during that three-day period in terms
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- Of how to pray with thanksgiving, because she talked
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- To me about--i mean, franklin graham is such a great friend of
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- This ministry.
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- I mean, he loves matt and laurie, but there was a time
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- When franklin was really rebellious and wanted nothing to
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- Do with his mom and dad's christianity, and ruth told me
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- That night.
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- She said, "it used to be that when franklin was off and i
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- Didn't know where he was, i would get down by my bed and i
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- Would weep and i would intercede."
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- And she said, "i would use this--" you know, scripture
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- We've used all week, philippians 4: "don't worry about anything;
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- Instead, pray about everything.
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- Tell god what you need."
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- She said, "i missed the bit of thanking--
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- For thanksgiving."
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- And she said it totally transformed her because she
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- Said, "i went from weeping and praying every night to suddenly
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- Thanking god for the fact that-- 'i don't know where franklin is
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- Tonight, but you do, lord.
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- I thank you you're gonna bring him back.'"
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- And she said she just began to absolutely praise god, and it
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- Changed her.
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- And it wasn't long after that that franklin came back to the
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- Lord and just became this incredible man of god that he
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- Is today.
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- But there was something about that deposit in me of "you
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- Know what?
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- When you don't see what you want, when things look like
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- They're the worst they've ever been, this is a great place to
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- Start practicing who you believe god to be."
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- And, i think, even when jesus taught his--when his friends
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- Said, you know, "teach us to pray," you know, he said, "our
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- Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be your name."
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- It starts with this "you are great."
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- But i have discovered the power of thanksgiving and prayer as
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- Well before i came to the studio today.
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- As i'm walking, i'm thanking god, you know, for everything
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- That i'm thanking him for--the fact that i'll be with you
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- Girls today.
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- I'm thanking him for the people who will be watching this
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- Program, but i'm thanking him for who he is because one of the
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- Things i've realized is even when circumstances are hard,
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- God hasn't changed.
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- He's still good, he still loves us, he's still faithful, and
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- There's such a freedom and finally get to the place where
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- You think, "you know what, lord?
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- You've got this.
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- I wouldn't have chosen this path.
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- However, you've got this."
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- And i learned that from ruth, and i'm so grateful.
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- In fact, it was after she passed and i went to where she was
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- Buried and took a photo there with her gravestone, and it
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- Says, "thank you for your patience.
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- Construction completed."
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- And i thought, you know, that's right.
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- It's like, until we see jesus face-to-face, we're a
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- Construction zone.
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- But one of the greatest gifts that we're given in the midst of
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- That is to thank god in our prayers.
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- What i discovered is it doesn't change the circumstances, but it
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- Changes me and it changes how i see my life.
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- Irini fambro: it is so important to add the the element of
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- Gratitude to prayer, not because i say so.
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- Because the bible teaches us that when paul talks about "do
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- Not be anxious about anything, but in everything in--with
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- Prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving--" that was the
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- Irini version.
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- So, you know, you got it.
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- Like, but he's saying when you're gonna pray and when
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- You're gonna intercede for some things, when you're gonna ask
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- For some things, hey, you know what's the best atmosphere to do
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- That in?
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- It's thanksgiving.
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- I mean, and why?
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- Because the atmosphere that thanksgiving creates literally
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- Says, "god, i know who you are, i know that you sit on the
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- Throne, i know that you're great."
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- It shows me his track record.
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- "i've seen you do these things."
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- And even if you're at that point where you're just so frustrated
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- You can't even remember the things he's done for you, you
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- Can see him in other people's lives.
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- You're like, "i don't know anybody."
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- Okay, you get to read the bible and see that he's done
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- Some things.
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- Look at his life.
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- It says the testimony of jesus is the spirit of prophecy and
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- Literally setting up of an environment where god says, "i
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- Can move in that, i could do that."
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- So now that's the atmosphere that now i'm gonna bring my
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- Request as i'm like, "god, you're so much bigger than
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- This--that you've got this handle, that i can trust you,
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- That now it increases my faith not because i need to see the
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- Situation answered in such a way, but it's because i remember
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- Who's the one who's in charge of this situation, that i can lay
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- That at your feet."
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- It changes your prayers, it changes your requests, and to be
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- Honest, some of the things that you thought mattered, once you
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- Sit and go through all the things that you're grateful for,
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- You're like, "you know what?
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- That doesn't even seem to matter anymore, because i've gotten
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- Perspective, i've gotten your perspective on this," and i
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- Really the--that part of that conversation with the lord, i
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- Think it matters how we start.
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- Think about it in relationships in your life.
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- When you start off, imagine how your conversations with people
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- Shift when you start off with gratitude.
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- How much more does it shift when we're talking to the lord?
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- Laurie: paul even said in in colossians--it says, "continue,
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- Continue earnestly in prayer.
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- Be vigilant in prayer with thanksgiving."
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- So it's almost like your prayer isn't complete without
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- Thanksgiving, and then "i will enter his gates."
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- So that just opens the door wide that when i pray throughout the
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- Day, i'm always thanking the lord for things, but when i get
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- On my knees at home, i know that i come before him with
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- Thanksgiving first, and i just start thanking god for who he is
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- And all the great things that he has done, rejoicing in the lord.
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- Rejoy yourself in the lord.
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- It was there all the time for you.
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- I want you to go back and try and do it again because it's
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- There for you--the renewing of your mind that takes on the
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- Transforming of your mind.
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- We renew our minds and we transform into his image by what
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- We think about.
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- Nona jones: and i think sometimes when we feel like god
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- Is far, i often reflect on--you know, the bible tells us he
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- Inhabits the praises of his people, right?
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- And so when he feels far, when he feels distant, it's like,
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- Okay, how much are you actually thanking and praising him?
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- Because he actually takes up residence within our praises.
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- And so you said something so beautiful, which is almost like,
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- Look, god knows who he is, okay?
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- He knows he's amazing.
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- He knows he's all the things, right?
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- He literally has elders around him just "holy, holy, holy," all
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- Of the--he knows he's amazing.
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- So the thanksgiving really isn't to affirm who he is, because he
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- Knows who he is.
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- It is our opportunity to affirm who he is.
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- And so we receive the gift of peace.
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- We receive all of these promises.
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- We receive the gift of his presence.
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- It's like thanksgiving is a gift that we're giving ourselves in
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- Recognizing his goodness.
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- And i have found that when i feel distant from god, it has
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- Always been because i've maybe prayed what i need, prayed what
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- I wanted, but i wasn't praising him.
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- I wasn't taking an inventory of his goodness, and so i felt
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- Separated from him because i was not acknowledging who he is and
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- How amazing he is.
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- And once i started to do that, it's like i can literally feel
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- The tangible presence of god in the thanksgiving, in the praise.
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- Sheila: and that's the power of worship too.
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- We went into nashville to do a "better together."
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- And that day, that some things had gone wrong at home, and i
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- Was just like, "lord."
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- You know when you wake up and you want to be "woo-hoo!"
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- And you're just like--
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- Holly wagner: and you were not, you were not woo-hoo?
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- Sheila: no, that my "whoo!" had left, the "whoo!"
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- Was gone.
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- So what i have on my phone is-- and this is one of my favorite
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- Ones--cece winans.
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- Thank you, lord, for putting me on the planet at the same time
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- As cece winans.
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- Nona: thank god for cece.
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- Sheila: yes, but one of her-- i've got both of her albums on
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- My phone, but one of them has the song "is he worthy?"
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- I'm telling you, so i put it on, and i crank the volume up, and
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- It's like, you know, reminding me of everything.
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- It's--and by the end of it i'm--i'm literally--i'm
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- Standing on the bed in the room, and i'm just like, "yes,
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- You are!"
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- There's something so powerful about worship, remembering who
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- God is, and we live in such a nutty world, but when we choose
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- To begin to remember who god is and to lift up his name and to
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- Praise him, you know, the darkness cannot overcome
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- The light.
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- All creation is groaning, but is he worthy?
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- Can anyone open the scrolls?
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- Yes, he is.
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- Sheila: when you have a heart posture of gratitude and praise
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- Towards god, it really shifts the atmosphere.
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- I mean, have you noticed what it's like if you're complaining
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- About something and you're just like, "this is terrible and
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- That's terrible," and it just-- it gets darker and darker?
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- But what i've discovered is that when you change that posture and
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- You begin to thank god and you begin to praise him because he
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- Hasn't changed, he's still good, he's still kind, he's still
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- Loving, it can actually change the atmosphere in your home.
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- You know, i--my husband and i have been--he keeps a gratitude
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- Journal by the side of his bed, and it's something we've started
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- To do because there's so many things in the world right now
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- That are not right, but god is always good, god is always
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- Faithful, god is always loving, and somehow concentrating on
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- That and praising him--you read it in the psalms.
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- David sometimes will start with "why am i downcast, o my soul?"
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- And that word, "cast," was the name for what would happen to a
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- Sheep if it fell over, couldn't right itself.
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- They would say, "well, that sheep is cast," and he would
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- Say, "why are you downcast, o my soul?"
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- He would remind himself who god is, and that changed everything.
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- Irini: the realities of the words that we're saying and what
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- We're coming in alignment with that ephesians 6 talks about--
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- That our battles aren't against flesh and blood, they aren't the
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- Circumstances that are in front of you.
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- There's something so much deeper that's happening, and it's not
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- Just when you acknowledge it and you're aware of it.
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- There's a supernatural battle that's coming into existence,
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- And my thanksgiving comes-- brings me in alignment, in
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- Agreement with an entirely different spirit that's just in
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- My atmosphere, and i think we miss the power of when i am
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- Aligning with the spirit of anxiety and fear and what i am
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- Permissioning that spirit to do and torment in me.
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- It's saying, "yes, you're more than welcome because
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- I aligned with you.
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- I agreed with you.
- 00:11:50.633 --> 00:11:52.001
- Life and death in the power of the tongue."
- 00:11:52.001 --> 00:11:53.369
- So if i choose to--because that's why--you know, i will
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- Enter his gates with thanksgiving in my heart.
- 00:11:55.905 --> 00:11:58.407
- It continues to keep coming back to the discipline of it.
- 00:11:58.407 --> 00:12:01.443
- "i will, i will because that's who i wanna align with."
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- Thanksgiving, it literally-- what i give praise to, what i
- 00:12:05.414 --> 00:12:08.651
- Give attention to is what i'm giving power to.
- 00:12:08.651 --> 00:12:11.720
- So i'm saying, "you have all-- you're welcome to come in," and
- 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:15.124
- I wanna be careful about what i welcome because the very thing
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- That i'm asking god to save me from, i'm aligning with, and i--
- 00:12:18.761 --> 00:12:24.466
- And the lord's like, "oh, oh, okay, so which one do you want?"
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- Laurie: that's when david said, "bless the lord, o
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- My soul."
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- Irini: sometimes you just have to talk to yourself.
- 00:12:31.974 --> 00:12:33.843
- Laurie: "all that is within me, bless his holy name."
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- Nona: going back to worship, it's so funny because i'm
- 00:12:36.278 --> 00:12:38.147
- Obviously late, but have you all heard the song "what a god"?
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- Holly: sing it, sister.
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- Nona: uh, i will not sing it, but the lyrics--i just
- 00:12:43.752 --> 00:12:47.523
- Discovered this song, like, two days ago.
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- Laurie: who sang it?
- 00:12:49.525 --> 00:12:50.893
- Nona: it's a worship album by southeastern university called
- 00:12:50.893 --> 00:12:54.263
- "what a god."
- 00:12:54.263 --> 00:12:55.631
- I heard the song as i was driving, and when i tell you, i
- 00:12:55.631 --> 00:12:57.499
- Had to pull over.
- 00:12:57.499 --> 00:12:59.201
- The lyrics say, "who thought i'd find you at the lowest place?
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- Who thought you'd feel me in the crowd?
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- Who knew you make good of my mistakes?
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- You're nothing like i thought you were.
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- You're better.
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- I thought you'd show up for perfection because what kind of
- 00:13:13.482 --> 00:13:16.952
- God looks for the lost?
- 00:13:16.952 --> 00:13:18.787
- They say it's over for a sinner, although you say, no, it's not."
- 00:13:18.787 --> 00:13:24.026
- And then it goes on to say, "if the highest place i reach is at
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- Your feet, then i've done it all.
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- If the best thing that i've seen is your glory, then i've seen
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- It all.
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- Your love has changed my life, forever satisfied.
- 00:13:34.436 --> 00:13:38.474
- God, you are my everything."
- 00:13:38.474 --> 00:13:41.343
- That song, and first of all, i'm telling you, just be careful
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- When you put it on, just be careful.
- 00:13:44.146 --> 00:13:45.514
- Having the ability to sing into how you--the gratitude, it's
- 00:13:45.514 --> 00:13:54.189
- Like, "god, you chose me when i was truly worthless.
- 00:13:54.189 --> 00:14:01.697
- Like, there was nothing i could offer you.
- 00:14:01.697 --> 00:14:04.300
- There was nothing i could offer you, and you chose me."
- 00:14:04.300 --> 00:14:07.870
- When i tried--i tried it in my life when i was 9 and 11, didn't
- 00:14:07.870 --> 00:14:10.673
- Know the lord, didn't grow up in church, and i didn't know what
- 00:14:10.673 --> 00:14:13.943
- Was on the other side of death, but i figured whatever it was
- 00:14:13.943 --> 00:14:16.078
- Was better than what i was experiencing and the abuse i was
- 00:14:16.078 --> 00:14:18.280
- Experiencing, and god was with me even in that, and i didn't
- 00:14:18.280 --> 00:14:22.084
- Know who he was, didn't even have the words to call on jesus,
- 00:14:22.084 --> 00:14:25.254
- Didn't know anything about a bible, had never been to church,
- 00:14:25.254 --> 00:14:28.023
- And so when i reflect on where i was and where i am and where the
- 00:14:28.023 --> 00:14:32.928
- Lord has brought me, it's like, "god, if i never achieve another
- 00:14:32.928 --> 00:14:38.834
- Thing, like, you're my everything.
- 00:14:38.834 --> 00:14:41.837
- There's nothing--there's nothing else that i want,
- 00:14:41.837 --> 00:14:44.273
- There's no platform i want to be on, there's no material
- 00:14:44.273 --> 00:14:47.042
- Possession that i desire, there's nothing i want because i
- 00:14:47.042 --> 00:14:50.112
- Have what matters most."
- 00:14:50.112 --> 00:14:51.714
- The time i spend with the lord in the morning, praising him and
- 00:14:51.714 --> 00:14:56.018
- Worshiping him and just praying in the spirit, like, i treasure
- 00:14:56.018 --> 00:14:59.922
- That far more than preaching to thousands.
- 00:14:59.922 --> 00:15:02.858
- I'm just being honest.
- 00:15:02.858 --> 00:15:04.226
- Like, i don't--like, there is nothing i aspire to beyond
- 00:15:04.226 --> 00:15:08.263
- That--to have the lord of the universe dwell with me?
- 00:15:08.263 --> 00:15:12.801
- Like, that is mind-boggling.
- 00:15:12.801 --> 00:15:14.536
- Sheila: it is mind-boggling.
- 00:15:14.536 --> 00:15:16.638
- Holly: i think there was one time when i was praying for my
- 00:15:16.638 --> 00:15:18.674
- Kids because, as a mom, that's probably one of our biggest
- 00:15:18.674 --> 00:15:21.176
- Prayers, right?
- 00:15:21.176 --> 00:15:22.544
- I was praying for them, and i was so--to be honest, i was--
- 00:15:22.544 --> 00:15:25.180
- It's a situation that my daughter was in, and i was
- 00:15:25.180 --> 00:15:27.349
- Very worried.
- 00:15:27.349 --> 00:15:30.252
- I just didn't see a good outcome here.
- 00:15:30.252 --> 00:15:34.390
- She'd made some choices that weren't great, and i just didn't
- 00:15:34.390 --> 00:15:37.926
- Know where this was going to go.
- 00:15:37.926 --> 00:15:39.628
- And so i was crying and praying, and i started saying, "thank
- 00:15:39.628 --> 00:15:44.500
- You, thank you, god, for who she is.
- 00:15:44.500 --> 00:15:46.935
- Thank you, god, that you love her.
- 00:15:46.935 --> 00:15:48.804
- Thank you, god, that you've called her.
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- Thank you, god, that you will protect her.
- 00:15:50.239 --> 00:15:52.508
- And i thank you, god, that all the work that you started in her
- 00:15:52.508 --> 00:15:55.110
- From when she was a small child, that you will finish it."
- 00:15:55.110 --> 00:15:57.980
- And i think the more i did that, it actually put faith back in me
- 00:15:57.980 --> 00:16:02.551
- Because he's bigger than this situation.
- 00:16:02.551 --> 00:16:04.953
- He loves her more than even i do.
- 00:16:04.953 --> 00:16:07.356
- And so i just think it put faith in me when i started thanking
- 00:16:07.356 --> 00:16:09.992
- God because it reminded me about who he is.
- 00:16:09.992 --> 00:16:12.428
- He's bigger than the situation.
- 00:16:12.428 --> 00:16:15.130
- So i, again, i just think starting prayers with
- 00:16:15.130 --> 00:16:18.033
- Thanksgiving will shift your focus from the problem to who
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- He is.
- 00:16:21.236 --> 00:16:23.505
- Nona: thanksgiving is a season to reflect on god's greatest
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- Gifts to us.
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- Sheila: and here at "better together," we're thankful for
- 00:16:27.543 --> 00:16:28.911
- Our community.
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- 00:16:30.245 --> 00:16:32.414
- Or maybe even share a prayer request.
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- Holly: it's like, even back to that whole worship thing, i feel
- 00:16:49.861 --> 00:16:52.664
- Like it's making the point why we need more songs that actually
- 00:16:52.664 --> 00:16:58.303
- Are about him--
- 00:16:58.303 --> 00:16:59.671
- Sheila: and not about us.
- 00:16:59.671 --> 00:17:01.005
- Holly: and not about me, right?
- 00:17:01.005 --> 00:17:02.373
- And not about me.
- 00:17:02.373 --> 00:17:03.708
- I feel like there was an era when there were so many--i call
- 00:17:03.708 --> 00:17:06.077
- Them navel-gazing songs, but they were, like, very intro, and
- 00:17:06.077 --> 00:17:11.149
- I understand recognizing feelings, so i get that, but
- 00:17:11.149 --> 00:17:15.253
- There's no power in that, right?
- 00:17:15.253 --> 00:17:16.921
- So the power comes when the songs are not about my
- 00:17:16.921 --> 00:17:21.793
- Experience about anything.
- 00:17:21.793 --> 00:17:23.127
- It's about "when i throw up my hands, when i praise you again
- 00:17:23.127 --> 00:17:26.464
- And again," right, and what a beautiful name--
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- Nona: he inhabits his praise, but that's the key.
- 00:17:29.233 --> 00:17:32.203
- It's like, when we're singing about ourselves, it's almost
- 00:17:32.203 --> 00:17:35.239
- Like we're seated on the throne, right?
- 00:17:35.239 --> 00:17:37.809
- We're seated on the throne of-- because we're the subject, but
- 00:17:37.809 --> 00:17:40.445
- When the throne is his, then he can come have a seat.
- 00:17:40.445 --> 00:17:44.349
- That's why it has to be about him.
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- Sheila: it's so fascinating, you talk about the king of the
- 00:17:45.717 --> 00:17:48.252
- Universe, we get--i remember when we did this--when i used
- 00:17:48.252 --> 00:17:51.489
- To work with the bbc in london, we did this royal command
- 00:17:51.489 --> 00:17:53.891
- Performance which--at the albert hall, which is this
- 00:17:53.891 --> 00:17:56.327
- Beautiful, beautiful place--and it just means that someone from
- 00:17:56.327 --> 00:17:59.063
- The royal family will be there, and the hoops i had to go
- 00:17:59.063 --> 00:18:02.166
- Through because i was hosting the event--like, i had to meet
- 00:18:02.166 --> 00:18:04.736
- With all these suits from the palace and learn, you know, how
- 00:18:04.736 --> 00:18:07.672
- To curtsey properly and how to if--you know, whenever you're
- 00:18:07.672 --> 00:18:12.377
- First addressed, you don't say anything unless they talk to
- 00:18:12.377 --> 00:18:15.246
- You, but when they talk to you, you can say--
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- Nona: oh, i would fail that immediately.
- 00:18:17.181 --> 00:18:18.616
- "hey, girl, how you doing?
- 00:18:18.616 --> 00:18:20.218
- Hey!"
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- Sheila: you'd be in the tower of london, yes.
- 00:18:21.552 --> 00:18:24.022
- It was such a huge deal, and then in the actual event, i
- 00:18:24.022 --> 00:18:26.457
- Forgot it all, which was awful.
- 00:18:26.457 --> 00:18:29.827
- When princess anne was in front of me and i--
- 00:18:29.827 --> 00:18:33.031
- Laurie: "hi."
- 00:18:33.031 --> 00:18:34.365
- Sheila: literally, but, laurie, actually that is what i did it.
- 00:18:34.365 --> 00:18:36.901
- No, i didn't even do it.
- 00:18:36.901 --> 00:18:38.236
- I just said, "hello!"
- 00:18:38.236 --> 00:18:40.004
- And she just said, "hello!"
- 00:18:40.004 --> 00:18:42.473
- She was so sweet.
- 00:18:42.473 --> 00:18:43.841
- She totally overlooked my complete inept behavior, but i
- 00:18:43.841 --> 00:18:47.111
- Think that you and i, every single one of us, we are invited
- 00:18:47.111 --> 00:18:51.049
- Into the very presence of the one who spoke the stars into
- 00:18:51.049 --> 00:18:55.019
- Place and the planets and who-- no matter what they're saying on
- 00:18:55.019 --> 00:18:58.689
- Any of the news channels right now, god is in control, god is
- 00:18:58.689 --> 00:19:03.261
- Good, god is faithful, and we get invited into his presence.
- 00:19:03.261 --> 00:19:07.999
- It just, i mean, it's mind-boggling.
- 00:19:07.999 --> 00:19:10.201
- Nona: and he is with us.
- 00:19:10.201 --> 00:19:12.270
- Like, that's the thing.
- 00:19:12.270 --> 00:19:13.604
- Like, even as we're talking about gratitude and, just, i
- 00:19:13.604 --> 00:19:16.741
- Think about that.
- 00:19:16.741 --> 00:19:18.076
- I'm like, "god is with me."
- 00:19:18.076 --> 00:19:21.479
- He has made us, every single one of us, his dwelling place.
- 00:19:21.479 --> 00:19:25.917
- He is in us, he is around us, he leads us, he protects us, so
- 00:19:25.917 --> 00:19:30.121
- He's in front of us, he's behind us, he's inside of us, he's
- 00:19:30.121 --> 00:19:32.190
- Around--like, he is everywhere, and you raised such a beautiful
- 00:19:32.190 --> 00:19:36.561
- Point, which is we get so caught up on, you know, human power and
- 00:19:36.561 --> 00:19:41.032
- Dignity, and it's like, the god who decided all of this dwells
- 00:19:41.032 --> 00:19:46.571
- With us?
- 00:19:46.571 --> 00:19:48.372
- Laurie: and so, like, the bible says, "enter into his gates
- 00:19:48.372 --> 00:19:50.641
- With thanksgiving."
- 00:19:50.641 --> 00:19:52.009
- So when i come to the lord, the first thing i'm gonna do is
- 00:19:52.009 --> 00:19:54.512
- Start thanking him for who he is.
- 00:19:54.512 --> 00:19:56.814
- "thank you, god, that you're with me today.
- 00:19:56.814 --> 00:19:58.749
- Thank you that you hear my cry.
- 00:19:58.749 --> 00:20:01.252
- I thank you that you know what i need before i ask of you.
- 00:20:01.252 --> 00:20:05.089
- Thank you that you're god almighty, that you're in control
- 00:20:05.089 --> 00:20:07.625
- Of all things.
- 00:20:07.625 --> 00:20:09.260
- Everything that affects my life, you are in control of--that you
- 00:20:09.260 --> 00:20:13.431
- Are for me, that you're not against me."
- 00:20:13.431 --> 00:20:15.833
- When you start praying like that, it opens your heart up for
- 00:20:15.833 --> 00:20:20.972
- God to move in your life, just that making him who he is.
- 00:20:20.972 --> 00:20:28.446
- He's bigger than life.
- 00:20:28.446 --> 00:20:30.915
- He's larger than every kind of love we could possibly imagine.
- 00:20:30.915 --> 00:20:35.820
- God knows you and he cares for you, and if you thank him for
- 00:20:35.820 --> 00:20:39.290
- That, i think you'll see blessings in your life that you
- 00:20:39.290 --> 00:20:42.994
- Never dreamed possible.
- 00:20:42.994 --> 00:20:44.328
- He'll take you places that you never dreamed of because you
- 00:20:44.328 --> 00:20:48.032
- Have a grateful heart, and i think he loves that.
- 00:20:48.032 --> 00:20:52.770
- Holly: a practical note, i think there are people that deal with
- 00:20:52.770 --> 00:20:56.607
- Addictions and stru--with all-- of all kinds, and so i think
- 00:20:56.607 --> 00:21:00.711
- Developing the habit of thanking god--"i thank you, god, that i
- 00:21:00.711 --> 00:21:05.383
- Am free from--thank you, god, for your provision as i get free
- 00:21:05.383 --> 00:21:09.987
- From alcoholism or pornography."
- 00:21:09.987 --> 00:21:11.689
- It's like, "thank you, god."
- 00:21:11.689 --> 00:21:13.558
- So i just think the more that that's normal and common, that's
- 00:21:13.558 --> 00:21:18.429
- Where the power comes in--the more that we can acknowledge him
- 00:21:18.429 --> 00:21:22.567
- In the middle of our stuff, but thanking him.
- 00:21:22.567 --> 00:21:26.470
- "thank you that i am free."
- 00:21:26.470 --> 00:21:28.172
- Laurie: it's all provided already.
- 00:21:28.172 --> 00:21:29.774
- It's not something we're fighting for; it's a gift.
- 00:21:29.774 --> 00:21:32.910
- Holly: we're fighting from victory, not for it, right, from
- 00:21:32.910 --> 00:21:35.346
- That place.
- 00:21:35.346 --> 00:21:36.714
- Nona: can i tell you all--so, quick story--for those, of
- 00:21:36.714 --> 00:21:38.349
- Course, watching, they won't know this.
- 00:21:38.349 --> 00:21:39.684
- So yesterday i was taking clothes out of my
- 00:21:39.684 --> 00:21:41.852
- Washing machine.
- 00:21:41.852 --> 00:21:43.221
- I had just got my nails done because i knew i was going to
- 00:21:43.221 --> 00:21:45.089
- Come here, wanted my nails would be all nice.
- 00:21:45.089 --> 00:21:46.490
- And i was taking clothes out of my washing machine.
- 00:21:46.490 --> 00:21:47.892
- The clear gel, like, popped off my finger, and it was, like,
- 00:21:47.892 --> 00:21:52.296
- Fully intact, so it popped off and i was like, "okay, i'm going
- 00:21:52.296 --> 00:21:55.366
- To grab some super glue.
- 00:21:55.366 --> 00:21:56.734
- I'm going to bring the nail with me and just make sure my nails
- 00:21:56.734 --> 00:21:59.937
- Don't look crazy when i go to film."
- 00:21:59.937 --> 00:22:02.873
- And so, you know, i'm in a rush this morning because i got in
- 00:22:02.873 --> 00:22:05.343
- Super late, you know, last night, and i left my nail and
- 00:22:05.343 --> 00:22:09.213
- The glue.
- 00:22:09.213 --> 00:22:10.581
- I left it on the countertop in the bathroom.
- 00:22:10.581 --> 00:22:12.717
- I didn't realize that until we're pulling onto the lot, and
- 00:22:12.717 --> 00:22:15.620
- I'm like, "my nail looks horrific."
- 00:22:15.620 --> 00:22:17.822
- Like, literally looks like somebody just mowed my nail,
- 00:22:17.822 --> 00:22:20.057
- Looks horrible.
- 00:22:20.057 --> 00:22:21.425
- Holly: it's like you're missing your finger.
- 00:22:21.425 --> 00:22:22.827
- Nona: pretty much, so i come into the makeup area, and i
- 00:22:22.827 --> 00:22:26.497
- Think, "man, it would be so great if somebody just happened
- 00:22:26.497 --> 00:22:28.733
- To have a french tip nail, like press-on nail?"
- 00:22:28.733 --> 00:22:32.003
- I was like, "that's the most random, ridiculous ask i could
- 00:22:32.003 --> 00:22:35.406
- Ever make."
- 00:22:35.406 --> 00:22:36.741
- So i wasn't going to say anything.
- 00:22:36.741 --> 00:22:38.109
- But i was like, "you know what, why not ask?"
- 00:22:38.109 --> 00:22:40.011
- So i ask and a makeup artist literally just pulls out a bag
- 00:22:40.011 --> 00:22:44.515
- With french tip press-ons.
- 00:22:44.515 --> 00:22:46.517
- And so i have this on--and, yes, thank you, amber.
- 00:22:46.517 --> 00:22:49.487
- And the reason why i mention this is because one of the
- 00:22:49.487 --> 00:22:51.889
- Things the lord spoke to me even in that is that provision is
- 00:22:51.889 --> 00:22:56.093
- Always there.
- 00:22:56.093 --> 00:22:58.095
- What we tend not to do is ask for it, because we discount.
- 00:22:58.095 --> 00:23:01.832
- "well, there's no way this could happen.
- 00:23:01.832 --> 00:23:03.401
- There's no way this would be available.
- 00:23:03.401 --> 00:23:04.769
- There's no point in even asking, because god won't do it.
- 00:23:04.769 --> 00:23:06.637
- There's no point in even bringing it before god."
- 00:23:06.637 --> 00:23:08.072
- Like, that's silly.
- 00:23:08.072 --> 00:23:09.440
- And god is like, "try me."
- 00:23:09.440 --> 00:23:11.475
- The only thing that went wrong in my case is i just--i didn't
- 00:23:11.475 --> 00:23:14.612
- Ask for a square tip.
- 00:23:14.612 --> 00:23:16.180
- I bet if i would have asked for that, it would have been--
- 00:23:16.180 --> 00:23:18.115
- You know?
- 00:23:18.115 --> 00:23:20.618
- Irini: but the asking--he does, and the reality that the asking
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- Makes you vulnerable, so that's what's--i think that's what you
- 00:23:24.922 --> 00:23:28.359
- Wrestle out is in the bringing gratitude into the environment
- 00:23:28.359 --> 00:23:33.197
- Of prayer says, "god, i've seen you do this, and i--" and it's--
- 00:23:33.197 --> 00:23:37.868
- Let's be honest: it can be really hard when you're looking
- 00:23:37.868 --> 00:23:40.304
- At something that isn't fulfilled, that isn't finished,
- 00:23:40.304 --> 00:23:42.973
- That isn't good yet, and you're going, "okay, i remember you
- 00:23:42.973 --> 00:23:45.876
- Showed up here," or "maybe i don't have it."
- 00:23:45.876 --> 00:23:47.978
- "you showed up for holly, you showed up for laurie, you showed
- 00:23:47.978 --> 00:23:50.014
- Up for sheila, you showed up for nona.
- 00:23:50.014 --> 00:23:51.582
- God why aren't--okay, no, no, i thank you," and i'm trying to
- 00:23:51.582 --> 00:23:54.819
- Sit through that, and he's like, "that's right, this is a safe
- 00:23:54.819 --> 00:23:57.288
- Place for it."
- 00:23:57.288 --> 00:23:58.656
- Go ahead, keep going, keep going, because it's not like he
- 00:23:58.656 --> 00:24:01.225
- Didn't know, and he's like, "ask me, ask me for what you need
- 00:24:01.225 --> 00:24:06.097
- Because i wanna bring it to you," and you're vulnerable
- 00:24:06.097 --> 00:24:09.166
- Because you don't--you may not wanna be disappointed.
- 00:24:09.166 --> 00:24:13.704
- It may not turn out that you know that, you know it may not
- 00:24:13.704 --> 00:24:16.607
- Come the way you want, you know--and you're having to lay
- 00:24:16.607 --> 00:24:19.410
- All that down, and even if not, that's how you get into habakkuk
- 00:24:19.410 --> 00:24:23.748
- At the end.
- 00:24:23.748 --> 00:24:25.116
- "if there's no figs, if there isn't fruit that i see, if in my
- 00:24:25.116 --> 00:24:28.018
- Lifetime i don't see it, that you are still, and that you
- 00:24:28.018 --> 00:24:32.022
- Welcomed me into a conversation."
- 00:24:32.022 --> 00:24:34.658
- Gratitude isn't that--you know, it isn't even just the things
- 00:24:34.658 --> 00:24:37.728
- That i have to do before the dignitary of who god is.
- 00:24:37.728 --> 00:24:41.065
- "i get to give it to you"--that you're welcoming into a
- 00:24:41.065 --> 00:24:44.635
- Conversation that you're not afraid of where "i don't have
- 00:24:44.635 --> 00:24:47.304
- It, where i'm not there yet, you know, where i'm
- 00:24:47.304 --> 00:24:50.541
- Doubting something."
- 00:24:50.541 --> 00:24:51.876
- I just that reality--that he's not afraid of that--it makes
- 00:24:51.876 --> 00:24:56.847
- You lean in.
- 00:24:56.847 --> 00:24:58.682
- Holly: you know, when we pray, it's actually a
- 00:24:58.682 --> 00:25:03.554
- Two-way conversation.
- 00:25:03.554 --> 00:25:05.589
- You know, prayer is, like, is our communication with our
- 00:25:05.589 --> 00:25:09.960
- Father, and just like in any conversations, there's speaking
- 00:25:09.960 --> 00:25:13.063
- And there's listening.
- 00:25:13.063 --> 00:25:14.565
- And i think in the early, you know, years of me learning to
- 00:25:14.565 --> 00:25:18.803
- Pray, i did all the talking, probably in the early years of
- 00:25:18.803 --> 00:25:20.838
- My marriage too, but anyway in the early years of, you know,
- 00:25:20.838 --> 00:25:24.141
- Praying, i did all the talking, and now i think i'm getting
- 00:25:24.141 --> 00:25:28.045
- Better at listening and being quiet.
- 00:25:28.045 --> 00:25:30.648
- And so in the time with god, i think i spend more time thanking
- 00:25:30.648 --> 00:25:35.486
- Him, thanking him for situations, like situations with
- 00:25:35.486 --> 00:25:39.490
- My son or with my daughter, things that i don't fully see
- 00:25:39.490 --> 00:25:42.293
- Resolved yet or challenges that they're facing, and i just will
- 00:25:42.293 --> 00:25:45.796
- Say things like, "thank you god.
- 00:25:45.796 --> 00:25:47.665
- Thank you, god, that you have them in the palm of your hand.
- 00:25:47.665 --> 00:25:50.868
- Thank you, god, that your plans for them are good and excellent.
- 00:25:50.868 --> 00:25:54.638
- I thank you that you'll finish the work that you've started
- 00:25:54.638 --> 00:25:56.707
- In them."
- 00:25:56.707 --> 00:25:58.075
- So for me, you know, praying with thanksgiving, which is how
- 00:25:58.075 --> 00:26:02.012
- We're supposed to pray, right, it unlocks--i just feel like it
- 00:26:02.012 --> 00:26:05.883
- Unlocks a lot of my own soul, and i just think it's the way
- 00:26:05.883 --> 00:26:08.919
- To pray.
- 00:26:08.919 --> 00:26:10.354
- Laurie: when we get grateful, our trust in god--that "god,
- 00:26:10.354 --> 00:26:16.460
- This is how i would love for you to answer this prayer, but i
- 00:26:16.460 --> 00:26:20.931
- Want your will because your will is so much greater than mine is,
- 00:26:20.931 --> 00:26:25.469
- And i can fully trust in your will because that's gonna
- 00:26:25.469 --> 00:26:31.308
- Be good."
- 00:26:31.308 --> 00:26:32.643
- All things work together for good.
- 00:26:32.643 --> 00:26:34.011
- Irini: and aren't you glad for the ones--some the ones that he
- 00:26:34.011 --> 00:26:36.113
- Didn't answer?
- 00:26:36.113 --> 00:26:37.448
- Laurie: oh my gosh, yeah, if he would have answered my little
- 00:26:37.448 --> 00:26:39.216
- Piddly prayers at times--
- 00:26:39.216 --> 00:26:41.519
- Irini: the guy i was dating in high school, the friend i was
- 00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:43.854
- Clinging to, the way that i wanted something to happen,
- 00:26:43.854 --> 00:26:46.423
- The--all the places he said, "oh, you don't want this.
- 00:26:46.423 --> 00:26:50.227
- I got you, i got you, i got you.
- 00:26:50.227 --> 00:26:52.229
- This is not your good."
- 00:26:52.229 --> 00:26:53.564
- Nona: and sometimes i think-- you might have said it or i
- 00:26:53.564 --> 00:26:55.533
- Can't remember it now because it's such a good conversation,
- 00:26:55.533 --> 00:26:57.134
- But sometimes god doesn't answer the way that we want, but even
- 00:26:57.134 --> 00:27:00.638
- In not answering the way that we want, he's still
- 00:27:00.638 --> 00:27:02.873
- Answering something.
- 00:27:02.873 --> 00:27:04.308
- My very first pregnancy--this is before my oldest son, who was
- 00:27:04.308 --> 00:27:07.344
- Born premature--i was diagnosed with infertility, was told i'd
- 00:27:07.344 --> 00:27:09.980
- Never get pregnant.
- 00:27:09.980 --> 00:27:11.348
- I think it was maybe a week before i was supposed to start
- 00:27:11.348 --> 00:27:13.083
- Some medicinal therapy, found out i was pregnant, and my
- 00:27:13.083 --> 00:27:16.353
- Husband and i were so excited.
- 00:27:16.353 --> 00:27:17.855
- You know, "oh my gosh, this is amazing."
- 00:27:17.855 --> 00:27:19.890
- We go to the doctor, they, you know, do the ultrasound, and
- 00:27:19.890 --> 00:27:22.493
- They see two heartbeats.
- 00:27:22.493 --> 00:27:24.628
- And we're like, "what?"
- 00:27:24.628 --> 00:27:26.597
- Because neither of us has twins running in our family.
- 00:27:26.597 --> 00:27:28.399
- We're just like, "oh my gosh, this is amazing."
- 00:27:28.399 --> 00:27:30.935
- That day, we're so excited that we raced to a car dealership,
- 00:27:30.935 --> 00:27:35.439
- Trade in my car and get a bigger car--yes, because i'm like,
- 00:27:35.439 --> 00:27:38.943
- "we're about to have two babies," and, like, all these
- 00:27:38.943 --> 00:27:40.945
- Things, go back a month later, no heartbeats, and i was so, so,
- 00:27:40.945 --> 00:27:48.152
- So, so devastated, and the lord spoke to me in that, and he
- 00:27:48.152 --> 00:27:52.022
- Said, "nona, even what you lost is proof of my power because
- 00:27:52.022 --> 00:27:57.261
- They said you couldn't get pregnant at all."
- 00:27:57.261 --> 00:27:59.997
- He said, "you have to trust me."
- 00:27:59.997 --> 00:28:02.299
- He said, "i am faithful.
- 00:28:02.299 --> 00:28:04.301
- So even in this, i am showing you something," and we have to
- 00:28:04.301 --> 00:28:08.472
- Have eyes to see what god is doing so that, even in that, i
- 00:28:08.472 --> 00:28:13.177
- Was able to see, wow, god controls the situation.
- 00:28:13.177 --> 00:28:16.680
- They spoke infertility over me, and i would have loved to have
- 00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:20.250
- My babies.
- 00:28:20.250 --> 00:28:21.585
- But god also proved that he controls the situation, and i
- 00:28:21.585 --> 00:28:25.189
- Feel like there may be some people watching this who have
- 00:28:25.189 --> 00:28:27.358
- Had things spoken over you that seem impossible, and maybe
- 00:28:27.358 --> 00:28:30.427
- You've also gone through loss and you've gone through
- 00:28:30.427 --> 00:28:32.596
- Situations where god didn't answer the prayer the way you
- 00:28:32.596 --> 00:28:34.999
- Wanted him to answer it, but if you will trust god and ask him
- 00:28:34.999 --> 00:28:38.302
- To open your eyes to what he is doing, he can prove that he's
- 00:28:38.302 --> 00:28:42.072
- Still faithful even in it because he's just that good.
- 00:28:42.072 --> 00:28:45.776
- Sheila: one of the questions that might be hard to answer is,
- 00:28:45.776 --> 00:28:48.545
- Does god always answer our prayers?
- 00:28:48.545 --> 00:28:51.715
- My first response is, yes, he does, but not always in a way
- 00:28:51.715 --> 00:28:54.718
- That makes sense to us.
- 00:28:54.718 --> 00:28:56.320
- You know, sometimes god knows what's best.
- 00:28:56.320 --> 00:28:59.189
- He knows what's ahead for us, and sometimes he'll say no, or
- 00:28:59.189 --> 00:29:03.193
- Sometimes he'll say, "wait for a season," and sometimes he will
- 00:29:03.193 --> 00:29:06.230
- Say yes, but i want you to know every single prayer you pray,
- 00:29:06.230 --> 00:29:11.435
- God hears your prayer, and he answers, but it might be in his
- 00:29:11.435 --> 00:29:14.938
- Time and in his way.
- 00:29:14.938 --> 00:29:16.440
- But when you know how much he loves you, that his timing and
- 00:29:16.440 --> 00:29:19.476
- His way is perfect.
- 00:29:19.476 --> 00:29:21.912
- Sheila: i learned such an important lesson from this
- 00:29:21.912 --> 00:29:23.981
- Darling man in our church in scotland when i was growing up.
- 00:29:23.981 --> 00:29:26.417
- His name was angus, and he was from up in the highlands.
- 00:29:26.417 --> 00:29:28.952
- And i used to love our tuesday night prayer meeting, and it was
- 00:29:28.952 --> 00:29:32.222
- A small church.
- 00:29:32.222 --> 00:29:33.557
- It was probably just 20 of us, but i loved it.
- 00:29:33.557 --> 00:29:35.292
- And every single tuesday, angus would pray for his wife.
- 00:29:35.292 --> 00:29:38.696
- You know, he had become a christian after they got
- 00:29:38.696 --> 00:29:40.431
- Married, and she was a lovely woman, but she just wasn't
- 00:29:40.431 --> 00:29:42.900
- Really interested in jesus, and every single prayer meeting, he
- 00:29:42.900 --> 00:29:46.737
- Would pray for her, and then he would thank god for
- 00:29:46.737 --> 00:29:49.406
- Her salvation.
- 00:29:49.406 --> 00:29:50.741
- And i can remember saying to my mom, "why is angus--i mean,
- 00:29:50.741 --> 00:29:53.243
- She's not giving her life to the lord.
- 00:29:53.243 --> 00:29:54.578
- Why is angus thanking god?"
- 00:29:54.578 --> 00:29:55.946
- And i decided one night to ask him.
- 00:29:55.946 --> 00:29:58.082
- We were somewhere and i said to him, "angus, can i ask you
- 00:29:58.082 --> 00:30:00.184
- A question?"
- 00:30:00.184 --> 00:30:01.552
- I said, "do you ever wonder why god hasn't answered
- 00:30:01.552 --> 00:30:04.288
- Your prayer?"
- 00:30:04.288 --> 00:30:05.622
- And he was quiet for a minute and he said, "he's never failed
- 00:30:05.622 --> 00:30:09.493
- Me yet, lass.
- 00:30:09.493 --> 00:30:10.828
- I don't think he'll start now."
- 00:30:10.828 --> 00:30:13.130
- I go up, i go off to seminary, i come home.
- 00:30:13.130 --> 00:30:15.966
- Angus has passed, so i'm at his funeral service, and it was at
- 00:30:15.966 --> 00:30:19.970
- Angus's memorial that she gave her life to jesus.
- 00:30:19.970 --> 00:30:23.507
- It just showed to me a lifetime is not too long to pray.
- 00:30:23.507 --> 00:30:26.510
- He showed me that we pray and we thank god.
- 00:30:26.510 --> 00:30:29.246
- And we leave the results up to him.
- 00:30:29.246 --> 00:30:31.315
- He wouldn't know until two years later when she came trotting
- 00:30:31.315 --> 00:30:33.584
- Through the golden gate as well.
- 00:30:33.584 --> 00:30:37.654
- Nona: "i knew you would show up!"
- 00:30:37.654 --> 00:30:39.356
- Sheila: but, yes, and i'm sure that's exactly what he said.
- 00:30:39.356 --> 00:30:41.658
- "i knew you would show up."
- 00:30:41.658 --> 00:30:43.026
- Because it's just--it's taken our eyes off our circumstances
- 00:30:43.026 --> 00:30:46.897
- And our own ability and inability in saying that "you
- 00:30:46.897 --> 00:30:49.700
- Are god and you are good, and there's nothing you can't do."
- 00:30:49.700 --> 00:30:53.637
- Holly: yeah, because when our eyes are on ourselves and our
- 00:30:53.637 --> 00:30:56.673
- Circumstances, that's when we're anxious.
- 00:30:56.673 --> 00:30:59.676
- I looked at this--i don't know--for or something.
- 00:30:59.676 --> 00:31:02.146
- And in the last 3200 years, so the last 3200 years, there have
- 00:31:02.146 --> 00:31:08.285
- Been only 300 years of peace around the world.
- 00:31:08.285 --> 00:31:12.156
- Currently there are 59 armed conflicts happening around the
- 00:31:12.156 --> 00:31:16.360
- World, which is why jesus came, right, into our squabbling
- 00:31:16.360 --> 00:31:20.264
- War-torn--but the thing is, if right now god went...
- 00:31:20.264 --> 00:31:23.634
- And stopped all of it, stopped all of the conflicts, stopped
- 00:31:23.634 --> 00:31:27.638
- The wars.
- 00:31:27.638 --> 00:31:29.706
- In ten minutes, let's start again because the issue is peace
- 00:31:29.706 --> 00:31:33.377
- In our own heart.
- 00:31:33.377 --> 00:31:34.745
- The peace is in our heart, right?
- 00:31:34.745 --> 00:31:36.413
- And so we know that that peace comes with gratitude.
- 00:31:36.413 --> 00:31:41.151
- Like, if you want this peace, right, the peace that not only
- 00:31:41.151 --> 00:31:43.220
- Guards your heart, but guards our family and--then it's
- 00:31:43.220 --> 00:31:46.590
- Talking to god and it's grateful.
- 00:31:46.590 --> 00:31:48.058
- And so i feel like that, sometimes when we are so
- 00:31:48.058 --> 00:31:51.428
- Anxious, if we really push in there, we've forgotten to be
- 00:31:51.428 --> 00:31:54.832
- Grateful, right, and one of the keys in shifting that is to pray
- 00:31:54.832 --> 00:32:00.470
- With thanksgiving--that your prayers start with "thank you,
- 00:32:00.470 --> 00:32:04.374
- Thank you.
- 00:32:04.374 --> 00:32:05.909
- Your kingdom come," right?
- 00:32:05.909 --> 00:32:08.111
- "your will be done.
- 00:32:08.111 --> 00:32:09.446
- Thank you, god, that it is your kingdom that rules and reigns in
- 00:32:09.446 --> 00:32:12.583
- My heart and in my family.
- 00:32:12.583 --> 00:32:14.818
- Thank you, god."
- 00:32:14.818 --> 00:32:16.386
- Irini: it just comes back to what paul's talking about in
- 00:32:16.386 --> 00:32:19.089
- That bringing it with thanksgiving.
- 00:32:19.089 --> 00:32:21.225
- He never--what i love about it is he even starts with "don't be
- 00:32:21.225 --> 00:32:24.761
- Anxious," which is like saying, "hey, you're probably gonna have
- 00:32:24.761 --> 00:32:27.264
- Some opportunities for being anxious," but he also was
- 00:32:27.264 --> 00:32:31.401
- Saying, "when you're bringing this prayer and that
- 00:32:31.401 --> 00:32:33.604
- Supplication," it's--those requests, what you're--what we
- 00:32:33.604 --> 00:32:37.674
- Really--you know, sometimes it's why we start our prayer.
- 00:32:37.674 --> 00:32:40.677
- He's saying, "put it in thanksgiving because then you'll
- 00:32:40.677 --> 00:32:43.280
- Make the relationship the priority and not the request."
- 00:32:43.280 --> 00:32:47.017
- And let's be honest: sometimes we're praying because we need to
- 00:32:47.017 --> 00:32:51.321
- Get some answers and we need, and and sometimes it's
- 00:32:51.321 --> 00:32:54.491
- Transactional, and god's saying, "hey, shift it.
- 00:32:54.491 --> 00:32:57.194
- Remember, prayer's about you and me."
- 00:32:57.194 --> 00:32:59.630
- It's about getting closer to him and learning about the one who
- 00:32:59.630 --> 00:33:04.301
- Loves us the most, and then we get to say, "hey, i need some
- 00:33:04.301 --> 00:33:08.171
- Help with something."
- 00:33:08.171 --> 00:33:09.740
- Those are your prayers.
- 00:33:09.740 --> 00:33:11.074
- Those are the requests that you get to make, but it's so
- 00:33:11.074 --> 00:33:14.144
- Beautiful when it comes from that place because gratitude
- 00:33:14.144 --> 00:33:16.813
- Just reminds you of the relationship and that it's not
- 00:33:16.813 --> 00:33:19.783
- About just the request and what i can get from his hand, but
- 00:33:19.783 --> 00:33:23.420
- It's about him and about he and i together.
- 00:33:23.420 --> 00:33:28.458
- Paul tells us 4:8--philippians 4:8.
- 00:33:28.458 --> 00:33:31.628
- Nona: "finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true,
- 00:33:31.628 --> 00:33:34.798
- Whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure,
- 00:33:34.798 --> 00:33:37.100
- Whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable--if anything is
- 00:33:37.100 --> 00:33:41.071
- Excellent or praiseworthy-- think about such things."
- 00:33:41.071 --> 00:33:45.075
- I love the fact that he just said "whatever."
- 00:33:45.075 --> 00:33:47.444
- So he wasn't saying, "if there's some amazing thing that has
- 00:33:47.444 --> 00:33:50.480
- Happened," he's like, "if there's a little something."
- 00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:54.184
- There's--if you could just thank god because you have
- 00:33:54.184 --> 00:33:57.921
- Shoes, you got a pulse, maybe you have food in your belly,
- 00:33:57.921 --> 00:34:02.492
- Maybe you just open your eyes and you can see, maybe you're
- 00:34:02.492 --> 00:34:04.928
- Hungry, but you can see--like, if there's anything, find it,
- 00:34:04.928 --> 00:34:09.199
- Find it, and be thankful for that.
- 00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:11.501
- And, man, that is a discipline.
- 00:34:11.501 --> 00:34:13.804
- Irini: it is because to ask that question, "is it true?"
- 00:34:13.804 --> 00:34:17.641
- Like, i just, at the first one, you can get--you can sit in it
- 00:34:17.641 --> 00:34:21.411
- Because just think right now in our culture, you know?
- 00:34:21.411 --> 00:34:25.182
- I'm seeing something--a spirit of comparison of something that
- 00:34:25.182 --> 00:34:27.851
- I'm watching, i'm scrolling through--you know, i mean, is
- 00:34:27.851 --> 00:34:30.454
- It true?
- 00:34:30.454 --> 00:34:31.822
- Yeah, after the 16th take, it might have been true, or but--
- 00:34:31.822 --> 00:34:34.958
- Or whatever the lie the enemy says about you, "you're not
- 00:34:34.958 --> 00:34:37.861
- Enough, you're too much," i mean, it's like, you can't
- 00:34:37.861 --> 00:34:40.497
- Figure out the extreme of it.
- 00:34:40.497 --> 00:34:41.965
- It's like, "god, is this true?
- 00:34:41.965 --> 00:34:43.900
- Is this true?
- 00:34:43.900 --> 00:34:45.235
- Is this what you think about me?
- 00:34:45.235 --> 00:34:46.603
- Because if you're not thinking about me, if it's not a thought
- 00:34:46.603 --> 00:34:48.672
- You have, then it shouldn't be a thought i have, but i can't get
- 00:34:48.672 --> 00:34:51.675
- To that until i start first acknowledging who you are and
- 00:34:51.675 --> 00:34:56.179
- Being grateful about that because i--" i believe it shifts
- 00:34:56.179 --> 00:34:58.882
- That perspective for us before we get to the other stuff.
- 00:34:58.882 --> 00:35:02.652
- When we start with the other stuff, that's what we keep our
- 00:35:02.652 --> 00:35:05.989
- Mind on and i get stuck on.
- 00:35:05.989 --> 00:35:08.492
- So he's like, "no, no, no, i'm saying," like we've been talking
- 00:35:08.492 --> 00:35:11.995
- About, "is that thanksgiving is for me."
- 00:35:11.995 --> 00:35:14.131
- And so then i'm like, "okay, let me remind myself who i'm
- 00:35:14.131 --> 00:35:17.000
- Talking to.
- 00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:18.335
- I'm talking to the god that did x, y--" i mean, you can start
- 00:35:18.335 --> 00:35:22.305
- Naming these things, and he's like, "yeah, and then go ahead."
- 00:35:22.305 --> 00:35:25.742
- Now when you come with your requests, you're like, "oh, this
- 00:35:25.742 --> 00:35:28.912
- Is who i'm speaking to."
- 00:35:28.912 --> 00:35:30.280
- Nona: well, on the point of truth, i want to harp on this
- 00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:32.282
- For a moment because i think--i spent six years working at the
- 00:35:32.282 --> 00:35:35.452
- Company formerly known as facebook, now known as meta, and
- 00:35:35.452 --> 00:35:38.355
- So many people, too many people, are deriving their sense of
- 00:35:38.355 --> 00:35:42.726
- Truth from what they see on social media.
- 00:35:42.726 --> 00:35:45.228
- I need you to hear me, from having worked on the inside:
- 00:35:45.228 --> 00:35:49.800
- About 90% of what you see, it's not true for various reasons.
- 00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:56.106
- One, people primarily just share the highlight reel, right?
- 00:35:56.106 --> 00:35:59.509
- They share the day they got the new car, they share the day they
- 00:35:59.509 --> 00:36:01.678
- Got engaged, they share the day they bought the new house.
- 00:36:01.678 --> 00:36:04.881
- They don't share when the car got repossessed.
- 00:36:04.881 --> 00:36:06.583
- They don't share when the divorce happened.
- 00:36:06.583 --> 00:36:09.119
- A lot of times you find out-- you didn't even realize
- 00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:10.620
- They got divorced, right?
- 00:36:10.620 --> 00:36:11.955
- You're like, "well, how is so-and-so?"
- 00:36:11.955 --> 00:36:13.290
- "oh, yeah, that's over." "what?"
- 00:36:13.290 --> 00:36:14.825
- "you posted the day that the ring got on your finger, but i
- 00:36:14.825 --> 00:36:17.060
- Didn't know that happened."
- 00:36:17.060 --> 00:36:18.395
- When the house gets--when you get evicted, and so a lot of
- 00:36:18.395 --> 00:36:21.231
- Times we're comparing our reality to other
- 00:36:21.231 --> 00:36:22.766
- People's fiction.
- 00:36:22.766 --> 00:36:24.101
- So that's one part.
- 00:36:24.101 --> 00:36:25.469
- The other part is there are so many bot accounts.
- 00:36:25.469 --> 00:36:29.639
- Literally, like, there are farms in other countries and in the us
- 00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:34.244
- Where there are robots sharing comments that are not true, and
- 00:36:34.244 --> 00:36:38.115
- So it'll seem like all of these people are saying this, all of
- 00:36:38.115 --> 00:36:42.152
- These people, and you'll see posts and you'll think, "wow,
- 00:36:42.152 --> 00:36:44.554
- Look at this," and it's ai, it's doctored, and so that's why
- 00:36:44.554 --> 00:36:47.858
- We've got to try the spirit by the spirit.
- 00:36:47.858 --> 00:36:50.961
- As someone who worked in that industry for a long time, i
- 00:36:50.961 --> 00:36:53.697
- Spend very little time on social media just because i know how
- 00:36:53.697 --> 00:36:57.467
- Not true it is.
- 00:36:57.467 --> 00:36:59.035
- And i have found that when i do spend time, i typically will
- 00:36:59.035 --> 00:37:01.972
- Leave anxious or angry.
- 00:37:01.972 --> 00:37:04.541
- No, whatever is true--sometimes that means shutting off the apps
- 00:37:04.541 --> 00:37:09.179
- And getting in the presence of god.
- 00:37:09.179 --> 00:37:11.348
- Sheila: i don't know what you were like growing up, what kind
- 00:37:11.348 --> 00:37:13.717
- Of picture you had of yourself as a young person.
- 00:37:13.717 --> 00:37:17.387
- Mine was very broken.
- 00:37:17.387 --> 00:37:20.323
- I saw myself as someone who was too broken to be loved, and a
- 00:37:20.323 --> 00:37:24.261
- Lot of that was just because of the trauma of my childhood and
- 00:37:24.261 --> 00:37:27.197
- The brain injury of my father, and but what i've discovered is
- 00:37:27.197 --> 00:37:30.700
- The more that i study god's word, it's like trying to
- 00:37:30.700 --> 00:37:36.039
- Re-wallpaper your mind.
- 00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:37.541
- I don't know if you've ever tried to scrape wallpaper off.
- 00:37:37.541 --> 00:37:39.643
- It is so hard to come off.
- 00:37:39.643 --> 00:37:42.312
- And maybe that's the way you are with your thoughts.
- 00:37:42.312 --> 00:37:44.881
- Maybe you see yourself in a certain way and--but i want to
- 00:37:44.881 --> 00:37:47.584
- Encourage you to scrape that wallpaper off your mind and
- 00:37:47.584 --> 00:37:51.288
- Replace it with the truth of god's word.
- 00:37:51.288 --> 00:37:53.924
- God's word isn't just a book.
- 00:37:53.924 --> 00:37:55.292
- I mean, it is alive, and you can replace the lies you believed
- 00:37:55.292 --> 00:37:58.795
- With the truth of who god says you are.
- 00:37:58.795 --> 00:38:01.965
- I know without a shadow of a doubt now.
- 00:38:01.965 --> 00:38:04.801
- Somebody asked me once, and it was actually during my stay in a
- 00:38:04.801 --> 00:38:07.804
- Mental hospital, "who are you?"
- 00:38:07.804 --> 00:38:09.773
- And i said, "sheila walsh," and they said, "no, who are you?
- 00:38:09.773 --> 00:38:13.076
- That's just your name."
- 00:38:13.076 --> 00:38:14.678
- And by the end of my time there, i was able to say, "i'm sheila
- 00:38:14.678 --> 00:38:18.048
- Walsh, daughter of the king of kings.
- 00:38:18.048 --> 00:38:20.050
- That's who i am."
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- Laurie: i love paul.
- 00:38:37.034 --> 00:38:39.203
- He, you know, he's the one that says, "be anxious for nothing,
- 00:38:39.203 --> 00:38:43.007
- Pray without ceasing, and giving thanks," and then what do we see
- 00:38:43.007 --> 00:38:47.511
- Him in?
- 00:38:47.511 --> 00:38:49.247
- In the prison at midnight, he's praying and he's singing hymns,
- 00:38:49.247 --> 00:38:53.951
- Giving thanks because he knows "this is for my peace, for
- 00:38:53.951 --> 00:38:59.490
- My anxiety."
- 00:38:59.490 --> 00:39:00.958
- Holly: it wasn't, like, a big plan.
- 00:39:00.958 --> 00:39:02.493
- He probably went, "i know what's gonna happen.
- 00:39:02.493 --> 00:39:04.795
- Let's sing because i know step three is gonna be--" it wasn't
- 00:39:04.795 --> 00:39:08.933
- Even that; it was just genuine.
- 00:39:08.933 --> 00:39:11.168
- [crosstalk]
- 00:39:11.168 --> 00:39:13.704
- Laurie: that's why, in every state i find myself, i
- 00:39:13.704 --> 00:39:16.607
- Am content.
- 00:39:16.607 --> 00:39:19.644
- Sheila: there's something about exchanging that
- 00:39:19.644 --> 00:39:22.146
- For thanksgiving.
- 00:39:22.146 --> 00:39:23.848
- The lesson i learned with my mom, and then--but i see it
- 00:39:23.848 --> 00:39:26.651
- Passed on to my son.
- 00:39:26.651 --> 00:39:28.052
- He had this one whole year where all he wanted was oakley
- 00:39:28.052 --> 00:39:30.755
- Sunglasses, and they're expensive.
- 00:39:30.755 --> 00:39:32.890
- He wanted these oakley sunglasses, and he was like,
- 00:39:32.890 --> 00:39:35.359
- "mom, i believe they'll help my vision for the future."
- 00:39:35.359 --> 00:39:38.729
- [crosstalk]
- 00:39:38.729 --> 00:39:42.933
- Sheila: so barry and i talked about it.
- 00:39:42.933 --> 00:39:45.102
- We decided we would get them for him for christmas.
- 00:39:45.102 --> 00:39:46.470
- So we got--a month later, i took him to africa on a trip
- 00:39:46.470 --> 00:39:50.675
- That i was doing.
- 00:39:50.675 --> 00:39:52.043
- And we're working with a lot of boys who are his age, setting up
- 00:39:52.043 --> 00:39:54.278
- Feeding programs in a village, and we're on the flight back
- 00:39:54.278 --> 00:39:58.015
- Home, and he's got his case, but it's empty, and i'm like, "babe,
- 00:39:58.015 --> 00:40:03.621
- Where are your oakleys?"
- 00:40:03.621 --> 00:40:04.955
- He said, "oh, i gave them to jim."
- 00:40:04.955 --> 00:40:06.457
- And it was like this man who had been--who lives there with
- 00:40:06.457 --> 00:40:09.160
- These boys, who works on the ground with them.
- 00:40:09.160 --> 00:40:11.929
- He said, "that man's out in the sun every day, mom.
- 00:40:11.929 --> 00:40:14.532
- He's out in the sun every day.
- 00:40:14.532 --> 00:40:15.866
- And he--i noticed him having to kind of shelter his eyes."
- 00:40:15.866 --> 00:40:18.736
- And i thought, you know, i loved that because it was suddenly
- 00:40:18.736 --> 00:40:22.239
- This perspective of "i want this, i want this," and it's
- 00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:25.443
- Like suddenly "you know what?
- 00:40:25.443 --> 00:40:27.311
- My vision will be fine without these, but it actually would
- 00:40:27.311 --> 00:40:30.314
- Make a difference in somebody else's life."
- 00:40:30.314 --> 00:40:32.650
- I'm just thinking of, like, next week, when everybody gets
- 00:40:32.650 --> 00:40:35.252
- Together for thanksgiving in america, how awesome it would be
- 00:40:35.252 --> 00:40:39.690
- To really transform that into not just one more day where we
- 00:40:39.690 --> 00:40:43.661
- Eat too much and spend too much money but really a place of
- 00:40:43.661 --> 00:40:48.532
- Remembering whose we are.
- 00:40:48.532 --> 00:40:50.201
- Because when we remember whose we are--because i think that's
- 00:40:50.201 --> 00:40:53.738
- Why when we went into the bankruptcy court and had to let
- 00:40:53.738 --> 00:40:56.107
- Go of everything, i wasn't afraid because i'd seen my mom
- 00:40:56.107 --> 00:40:59.744
- Have to let go of everything, and she was fine.
- 00:40:59.744 --> 00:41:02.780
- Laurie: what freedom in that.
- 00:41:02.780 --> 00:41:04.148
- Sheila: yeah, absolutely, just like god's with us, god's got
- 00:41:04.148 --> 00:41:07.351
- Us, don't worry about it, and so that's in me at this stage in my
- 00:41:07.351 --> 00:41:12.523
- Life because of jesus.
- 00:41:12.523 --> 00:41:14.158
- He changes everything.
- 00:41:14.158 --> 00:41:16.427
- Nona: you know, gratitude requires remembrance because you
- 00:41:16.427 --> 00:41:21.499
- Can't be grateful for something you have forgotten, right?
- 00:41:21.499 --> 00:41:24.201
- So it requires remembrance.
- 00:41:24.201 --> 00:41:25.936
- And i think that a grateful heart strengthens our
- 00:41:25.936 --> 00:41:28.406
- Relationship with god because it causes us to remember how good
- 00:41:28.406 --> 00:41:32.042
- He has been.
- 00:41:32.042 --> 00:41:34.178
- Even in difficult seasons, the lord has worked all things
- 00:41:34.178 --> 00:41:37.748
- Together for our good.
- 00:41:37.748 --> 00:41:39.083
- Even when it doesn't feel good, he's worked all things together
- 00:41:39.083 --> 00:41:41.652
- For our good.
- 00:41:41.652 --> 00:41:43.020
- And so i think it's by taking inventory of his past
- 00:41:43.020 --> 00:41:45.556
- Faithfulness that we can place our faith in who he has been and
- 00:41:45.556 --> 00:41:50.628
- Who he will be because he never changes.
- 00:41:50.628 --> 00:41:54.031
- Nona: that's so powerful because something the lord called me to
- 00:41:54.031 --> 00:41:56.867
- Do recently--only way i can describe it is, just, full
- 00:41:56.867 --> 00:42:00.438
- Surrender, and i don't have time to tell the whole story, but
- 00:42:00.438 --> 00:42:03.107
- Over the last year, it's like the lord has really been
- 00:42:03.107 --> 00:42:06.544
- Teaching me about faith, like to a point where i thought i had
- 00:42:06.544 --> 00:42:10.781
- Faith, but the lord started to strip some things away from me
- 00:42:10.781 --> 00:42:15.586
- That caused me to have to understand faith in a whole new
- 00:42:15.586 --> 00:42:19.223
- Way, and the lord even told me.
- 00:42:19.223 --> 00:42:20.558
- Because i went before him and i was angry and i was like, "why
- 00:42:20.558 --> 00:42:23.260
- Is it so hard?
- 00:42:23.260 --> 00:42:24.628
- You told me to make this decision, and all this stuff
- 00:42:24.628 --> 00:42:26.397
- Seems to be falling apart."
- 00:42:26.397 --> 00:42:27.731
- And the lord said, "no, no, what you've been calling faith in me
- 00:42:27.731 --> 00:42:31.202
- Has actually been faith in you.
- 00:42:31.202 --> 00:42:33.170
- It's been faith in your resources, faith in
- 00:42:33.170 --> 00:42:34.939
- Your connections.
- 00:42:34.939 --> 00:42:36.307
- It's been faith," and he was like--"your abilities."
- 00:42:36.307 --> 00:42:38.909
- He was like, "you've been calling it faith in me, but it
- 00:42:38.909 --> 00:42:41.979
- Was actually just you making stuff happen."
- 00:42:41.979 --> 00:42:44.215
- And so he said, "so what i'm going to do is i'm going to show
- 00:42:44.215 --> 00:42:46.217
- You, number one, that i'm in control."
- 00:42:46.217 --> 00:42:48.419
- He said, "and i'm going to need you to get to a place that there
- 00:42:48.419 --> 00:42:51.956
- Is nothing that you have, there's nothing that you have
- 00:42:51.956 --> 00:42:54.425
- Access to that is going to replace your faith in me," and
- 00:42:54.425 --> 00:42:58.362
- So he got me to a place where i went before him one day, and i
- 00:42:58.362 --> 00:43:01.532
- Was walking through my house.
- 00:43:01.532 --> 00:43:02.867
- I love my home.
- 00:43:02.867 --> 00:43:04.201
- It's like, my dream home.
- 00:43:04.201 --> 00:43:05.569
- I love my home.
- 00:43:05.569 --> 00:43:06.904
- And i said, "father, if you require my home, you can have
- 00:43:06.904 --> 00:43:10.040
- It," and everything.
- 00:43:10.040 --> 00:43:13.344
- Like, i even talked about my husband, my children,
- 00:43:13.344 --> 00:43:16.313
- My reputation.
- 00:43:16.313 --> 00:43:17.681
- Like, i went down the line.
- 00:43:17.681 --> 00:43:19.083
- I was like, "god, i don't want that, and i can't even--i
- 00:43:19.083 --> 00:43:22.386
- Promise you i'll probably be angry."
- 00:43:22.386 --> 00:43:24.321
- I said, "i'll be really upset."
- 00:43:24.321 --> 00:43:27.191
- I said, "but i will trust you in all things.
- 00:43:27.191 --> 00:43:32.162
- I will trust you in all things," and i was at a service maybe a
- 00:43:32.162 --> 00:43:36.901
- Month later.
- 00:43:36.901 --> 00:43:38.235
- I was getting ready to preach, and this woman was up on stage,
- 00:43:38.235 --> 00:43:39.970
- And she was prosthetic, and she looked at me, and she said, "the
- 00:43:39.970 --> 00:43:43.007
- Lord just told me to tell you that 'you are my daughter, and i
- 00:43:43.007 --> 00:43:48.312
- Can trust you.'"
- 00:43:48.312 --> 00:43:50.814
- And that broke me down.
- 00:43:50.814 --> 00:43:53.250
- Because up until that point, i know now that if the lord would
- 00:43:53.250 --> 00:43:57.087
- Have done for me things that i had been praying for him to do,
- 00:43:57.087 --> 00:44:01.292
- I would have ended up either disappointing him somehow, or my
- 00:44:01.292 --> 00:44:04.929
- Pride would have caused me to take ownership of what was his.
- 00:44:04.929 --> 00:44:11.402
- And so i'm in that season where it's like, "god, it's
- 00:44:11.402 --> 00:44:14.305
- All yours."
- 00:44:14.305 --> 00:44:15.673
- Laurie: i think god disconnecting us from the
- 00:44:15.673 --> 00:44:18.242
- Material world, "i'm gonna take you and disconnect you from
- 00:44:18.242 --> 00:44:24.248
- That," and that's surrender to god.
- 00:44:24.248 --> 00:44:27.818
- Because everything belongs to the lord.
- 00:44:27.818 --> 00:44:30.621
- There's nothing lost, there's nothing stolen.
- 00:44:30.621 --> 00:44:33.557
- It all belongs to god.
- 00:44:33.557 --> 00:44:36.193
- This is where every good gift-- everything that i need is
- 00:44:36.193 --> 00:44:39.964
- From god.
- 00:44:39.964 --> 00:44:41.332
- And that disconnect, i totally understand because there have
- 00:44:41.332 --> 00:44:45.202
- Been times in my life where i thought, "this is a huge step
- 00:44:45.202 --> 00:44:48.372
- Of faith."
- 00:44:48.372 --> 00:44:49.740
- And then it went down the toilet, and you just think,
- 00:44:49.740 --> 00:44:54.111
- "man, i don't even know what faith is," and it rocked
- 00:44:54.111 --> 00:44:56.547
- My world.
- 00:44:56.547 --> 00:44:57.881
- This was years ago, and it shook me to the core, and i just
- 00:44:57.881 --> 00:45:01.552
- Thought, "man, i've been raised in this, and if that wasn't
- 00:45:01.552 --> 00:45:06.323
- What--that step that we took and gave everything to wasn't
- 00:45:06.323 --> 00:45:11.028
- Faith, i'm jacked up, and i need to think differently about what
- 00:45:11.028 --> 00:45:19.403
- Faith is and how god does his thing because right now--" i was
- 00:45:19.403 --> 00:45:26.243
- A mess.
- 00:45:26.243 --> 00:45:27.578
- During that time in my life, god said, "it's never anything that
- 00:45:27.578 --> 00:45:30.481
- You do for me, nothing that you do for me.
- 00:45:30.481 --> 00:45:34.551
- It's what i do on the inside of you."
- 00:45:34.551 --> 00:45:37.221
- And that changed the way i thought about stuff.
- 00:45:37.221 --> 00:45:40.391
- All i'm required to do is walk in obedience, step out in faith,
- 00:45:40.391 --> 00:45:45.796
- Leave the consequences to the lord because it all belongs to
- 00:45:45.796 --> 00:45:49.166
- Him anyway.
- 00:45:49.166 --> 00:45:50.501
- So what am i striving for?
- 00:45:50.501 --> 00:45:52.770
- Holly: one of the things about gratitude is you realize that
- 00:45:52.770 --> 00:45:56.407
- You're not the provider.
- 00:45:56.407 --> 00:45:57.775
- So for me, like, when i'm thanking god, i'm realizing he's
- 00:45:57.775 --> 00:46:00.044
- The provider, i'm not, and so it keeps it all in perspective, so
- 00:46:00.044 --> 00:46:05.349
- It's a humble posture, like "thank you, god, that you--for
- 00:46:05.349 --> 00:46:08.318
- Your provision in this situation and circumstance."
- 00:46:08.318 --> 00:46:10.721
- So it's nothing i can do; only he can do it.
- 00:46:10.721 --> 00:46:13.424
- And so i think it just reminds, for me, you know, many times, it
- 00:46:13.424 --> 00:46:17.795
- Reminds me that he is god and i'm not.
- 00:46:17.795 --> 00:46:21.298
- Irini: i think when he's a part of many options, he's no option
- 00:46:21.298 --> 00:46:25.836
- Because that's not the same.
- 00:46:25.836 --> 00:46:27.271
- How can he be a part of what he create--an option lined up with
- 00:46:27.271 --> 00:46:30.641
- What he created.
- 00:46:30.641 --> 00:46:32.776
- He's like--then he's no option, and so we start putting him up
- 00:46:32.776 --> 00:46:36.447
- Against, like, "oh, am i gonna choose god?
- 00:46:36.447 --> 00:46:38.916
- Am i gonna choose man?
- 00:46:38.916 --> 00:46:40.284
- Am i gonna choose my job, my title?"
- 00:46:40.284 --> 00:46:42.453
- And the lord's like, "oh, no, no, that's not the line i'm in.
- 00:46:42.453 --> 00:46:46.457
- Then i'm not an option."
- 00:46:46.457 --> 00:46:47.791
- Nona: it's either all or nothing.
- 00:46:47.791 --> 00:46:49.159
- Irini: yeah, i am not with this category, and so we're--right,
- 00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:52.763
- Right, it's like the same thing, when we pit--like the--it's
- 00:46:52.763 --> 00:46:55.933
- Almost like god and the enemy are like equals and rival to
- 00:46:55.933 --> 00:46:59.036
- Each other.
- 00:46:59.036 --> 00:47:00.404
- They're not even in the same-- like, it's not even in the same.
- 00:47:00.404 --> 00:47:04.575
- It's like, we're not wondering if he'll win the battle, and i'm
- 00:47:04.575 --> 00:47:07.244
- Not wondering if he's any--it's just, god's like, "hey, if
- 00:47:07.244 --> 00:47:09.880
- That's the choice--" and he will let us make our choice, and
- 00:47:09.880 --> 00:47:14.118
- That's why i think the continual one, it can't just be in the
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- Big moments.
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- It's the discipline, the daily.
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- You just take a moment and say thank you.
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- Sheila: living with an absolute attitude of gratitude,
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- Remembering who we are, because i just--if there was anyone
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- That's ever existed in all of human history who could say,
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- "that's not my job.
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- It was jesus."
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- So let me just read this christological hymn that paul
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- Included in his letter to the philippians.
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- Oh, i just love this.
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- "you must have the same attitude that christ jesus had.
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- Though he was god, he did not think of the quality with god is
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- Something to cling to.
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- Instead, he gave up his divine privileges.
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- He took the humble position of a slave and was born as a
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- Human being.
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- When he appeared in human form, he humbled himself in obedience
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- To god and died a criminal's death on a cross.
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- Therefore, god elevated him to the place of highest honor and
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- Gave him the name above all other names, that at the name of
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- Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under
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- The earth, and every tongue confess that jesus christ is
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- Lord to the glory of god the father."
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- Father, we worship at your feet.
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- We are not worthy to come into your presence, but you welcome
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- Us, not as servants but as friends.
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- And, lord, i just wanna--i wanna thank you for refocusing
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- Our attention this week into being grateful for who you are--
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- That we win, lord, because of you.
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- We've read your story and you won.
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- You said, "it is finished," and because of that, we can live in
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- Freedom and in liberty.
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- So we pray right now for all our friends who are watching in, who
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- Are listening in, who might be in difficult circumstances.
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- Lord, in your name, would you help them right now to get down
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- On their knees and to lift their hands and worship and to say,
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- "you are worthy, you are good, you are faithful, you are god,
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- And we trust you."
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- And we ask this in the powerful name of jesus, amen.
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- Nona: i think we get so concerned about praying the
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- Right way.
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- Like, "okay, should i start with, you know, what i want?
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- Should i maybe start with repentance?"
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- Should i even start with gratitude?
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- I would tell you: just start.
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- Prayer is simply a conversation, and it's a conversation that you
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- Get to have with your heavenly father, and so you ask yourself
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- If you, you know, are a parent or maybe you aspire to be a
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- Parent or maybe you have godchildren or nieces or nephews
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- What type of conversation do you want to have with them?
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- It's one where they feel safe to just come to you, to just have a
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- Conversation, to tell you what's on their heart.
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- God is not expecting perfection.
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- He just wants intimacy with you.
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- He wants to know you, and he wants to know that you trust
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- Him, so don't feel like you have to have the perfect framework
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- To pray.
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- Just pray and know that it is thanksgiving that reminds you of
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- God's past faithfulness that will serve your future.
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