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How to Know God's Will - Episode 1108

October 22, 2025 | S7 E1108 | 52:34

How can we know what God wants us to do with our lives? Psalm 143 echoes the heart-cry of man, "teach me to do Your will, for You are my God." Throughout Scripture, we find the keys to living in God's perfect will—prayer, thanksgiving, and supernatural joy. | TBN Prayer Line: 714-731-1000

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Better Together | How to Know God's Will - Episode 1108 | October 22, 2025

If you're wondering how to know god's will for your life,
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You're not alone.
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And the answer is simpler than you might think.
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Come on, let's talk about it.
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So this is my 20th year in church ministry.
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Yay! congratulations.
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Congratulations.
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I feel like i'm still like a baby in ministry.
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I feel like the thing that i see the most the past couple of
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Years that stumbles a lot of believers is the question of
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What does god want for my life?
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It's the question that leads to so much regret for some,
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Being stuck for others.
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I feel as though we kind of treat a lot of our life
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Decisions as if, like, we have
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To have a burning bush for everything.
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What color am i going to wear?
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Who am i going to get married to?
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It would be lot easier. right.
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Wouldn't it be?
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And it really stumbles
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A lot of believers, and i could really relate.
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I know, even for myself, i've made life choices where i spent
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Near a decade once, like really being hung up and regretful
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About having had moved from one place to another.
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I felt like it was a little too early.
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I wondered if i heard god right, you know, and i spent a
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Lot of years in regret and shame.
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Um, and i feel as though i've spoken to a lot of women that
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Have felt the same.
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Like, i regret doing this.
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I thought i heard god right.
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And it kind of leaves us in this holding pattern sometimes,
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Where we're afraid to make choices because we're afraid to
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Get it wrong.
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And what does god's will feel like?
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What does it look like?
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I know, um, when when it was 2020, when we were starting to
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Plant a church and the whole world closed down,
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Um, all our plans went out the window.
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I remember there was kind of a
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Crossroads where we needed a home.
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We needed a team.
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We needed funding.
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We needed basically everything
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To survive and to start a church.
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But the only thing that my husband and i felt like was
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God's directive was do nothing.
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And you know, when you have four children and you're in
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A global crisis,
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That sounds like the dumbest thing to do.
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You know, if anything, the choice that made the most sense
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Was fold and just get like a job at another church
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Or something like that.
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It almost felt like the most reasonable thing.
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For weeks, my husband and i labored in prayer.
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Oh, what's the right choice?
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And we didn't want to get it wrong.
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And that was the biggest fear.
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We don't want to get it wrong because so much is on the line.
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The thing that set us free was upon really processing it.
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My husband kind of came to me and was like, you know,
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I don't hear one directive aside from just do nothing.
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It makes absolutely no sense.
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We could be wrong.
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But is god the kind of father that would penalize us for
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Trying to hear his voice with
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All our hearts, and to know his will
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The best that we can, and
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Possibly getting it a little off?
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Like, would he really penalize us in that moment of mystery,
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In that moment of confusion, and in a way, lack of clarity?
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The only thing that was clear was the god that we knew.
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And i feel as though, you know, in those moments where you're
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Not in those situations, god is always teaching us who he is,
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Right. god is always instilling his character
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And his goodness in our hearts.
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But it really comes to the test when there is no clarity.
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And so in that moment, we decided, okay, we're going to
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Really walk by faith and really
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Go by this decision and just do nothing.
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And what we did was we did communion with our children
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Every night, our children who
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Were not allowed to go anywhere.
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And and we just felt like, okay, what can we do aside from
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Just adoring god?
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You know, and it's so funny because my husband and i were
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We were in fear and trembling during those evenings, like
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We're packing our boxes to go nowhere.
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And, um, we're like, god, is he even going to do anything?
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Did we get it wrong? did we get it right?
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But it's so interesting because our children, they were just-- it
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Was an adventure for them.
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Faith is so fun to kids and it's just
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Torment to adults that learned
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How to be afraid and doubt god's character, you know?
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Yeah. um, but it was such a
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Learning point for us. at the end,
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God miraculously did, uh, provide for us a home.
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It was in the very town we planted a church in,
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And god really moved. and you know what?
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Everything my children prayed for during that time was
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In that house.
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Should have taught them to pray for, like, $1 billion, you know.
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But who's counting?
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I think it was really a teaching moment for me, because
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I realized sometimes we place upon ourselves almost this
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Unhealthy standard, an impossible standard sometimes
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Where we feel like this is the only way that i will receive
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God's confirmation and affirmation.
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And unless god like, makes it so obvious to me that i will
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Not make a choice.
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So a lot of people are stuck or stuck in regret--
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Yes. because of that standard.
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But i know, at least from my experience, i realize now that
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It's a lot simpler than we make it out to be.
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If you feel stuck, i want you to do the last thing you felt
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God told you to do.
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Just do the last thing you feel like he said to you to do.
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Keep moving.
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Keep-- be about your father's business.
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You know, we can't just get stuck in fear.
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I think it's fear of failure that we, um, get stuck in
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That if i do that,
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And what if god doesn't do it
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Like i think it's going to work out?
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You know what?
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That's happened a million times to us.
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You believe in something, you feel like you've asked god, and
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God has told you a direction to take, and it doesn't turn out
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The way you think, that's okay.
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I love how charles stanley always said,
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He said, you be obedient, you obey god and leave the
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Consequences to him.
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You are covered. step out in faith.
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Do what you feel the lord's called you to do.
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You make that step. god will meet you there.
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There is no failure in christ.
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He sees your faith and that is seed in the ground.
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I would love to hear from you all.
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Have you ever gone through something like that?
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What does knowing god's will look like for you?
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So i was walking through the mall just a little while ago,
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Maybe a few weeks ago, and i was kind of in a bit of a hurry
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Because i needed to get home.
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I knew that my little doggy, maggie, needed to go out and
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Use the bathroom.
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And so i'm hurrying and i'm very kind of focused.
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But this lady came out of a store, and when she saw me, she
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Kind of grabbed my arm and stopped me.
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And she said, i think i know who you are.
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And then she said, okay, here's my question.
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How do i find the will of god?
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You mean that's a big question in the middle of a mall?
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And it was interesting because we ended up having quite a
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Conversation because i said, a, i don't think it's lost.
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You know, i think we think it's this mysterious thing.
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How do i find it? i know it's lost.
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And i shared with her something that i learned years ago, one
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Of the kind of early church fathers that i really
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Feel an affinity to and love is ambrose of milan.
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He was alive in the fourth century, and there were so many
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Things he said that have left an impact on me.
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And one of the things i shared with her is, like he said, when
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We pray, we're talking to god.
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When we read his word, we're listening.
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And and i think, you know, that's interesting.
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We have two ears and one mouth.
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Probably supposed to listen more than we talk.
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But i said to her, that's one of the ways that i
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Know the will of god.
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It's just i open god's word and i listen.
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You know, i think sometimes we think, like-- i was brought up
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In a little baptist church where you did your quiet time,
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And that was you having, you know, you brush your teeth
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And quiet time. you've done it for the day,
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Not understanding that we have this living love letter from
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God and that when we feel lost or little, not sure where we're
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Going, we open up and we listen.
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We listen to the power of the word of god
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And we take the next step.
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So does finding the will of god,
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Is that a confusing principle, do you think,
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For for any of you?
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I mean, what have you learned in the process of that being
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Much more simple?
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Well, i think people look at it as a moving target, obviously.
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And i think we complicate it beyond what it needs to be.
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But i have gotten to a place, um, just because of what
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I've been through,
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I used to, when i was a kid
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Think of the will of god being like these big touchstones,
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Like benchmarks that i would hit, that he would show me.
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And, okay, he's going to show me before i get--
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It's like a road sign.
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And the older i've gotten and things coming up on the road
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Like cancer that i didn't expect,
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Allowed me to begin to start seeing it as a lot more of a
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Daily will rather than like
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This, you know, these huge guideposts that would come
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Every hundred miles or so.
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And so even to this day, i mean, i've gotten really it's
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Pretty rudimentary with it, but
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Um, like yesterday was my day off.
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And even on my day off, i'll go, lord, where am i
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Supposed to be today?
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I know that sounds religious, but it isn't because i'm like,
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I could go to home goods and i could buy rugs.
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I could decorate this room, or i could work on this message.
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Um, where am i meant to be today?
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Because what i've learned is that the day-- this happened to
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Me. i go shopping and i am knee deep in throw pillows, and a
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Woman comes behind me and says,
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Have you been on better together?
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Oh.
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And she begins to pour out her heart and tell me her story.
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And i was able to pray for her.
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And what's interesting about that is i feel okay if god will
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Lead me.
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It isn't all the big things i'm looking for.
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His will is in all of these encounters with his body,
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With his people.
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God's will for your life is often bigger
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Than just you
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Because god is a redeeming god.
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We are supporting characters to his story.
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He is the main character.
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And so we revolve around what he is doing
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On this earth.
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And so god is always doing a redeeming work.
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And he longs to do it with our participation.
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And so i know sometimes we feel like it's just about our lives,
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When actually god is eager.
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To use your life to
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Bring healing, hope, and light into this world.
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You know, i'm on this big church history research quest
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Right now, and i really wanted to find out through the
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Protestant movement how we got to believe what we believe.
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And i learned through some of my ancestors who were some of
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The first quakers, that i didn't realize
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Quakers were among the first protestants that ever believed
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God spoke to the individual. wow.
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Before that, no one was ever taught that god speaks to
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Individuals outside of the torah, where we know he did
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Choose to speak to a prophet
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For each generation or to a patriarch.
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So this idea is relatively new in the history of mankind for
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Us to be seeking as believers, god speaking a direct word.
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And i think that's powerful in itself that we seek,
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Okay, god, what do you want for me?
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So i do know through his word it's like, okay, you want to
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Know what god wants? read.
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This is what he expects out of us.
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His will is that we become more like jesus, that we
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Look more like him.
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So what are the things about my life that don't look like god?
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That's how i find, what's the will of god?
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This didn't sound like jesus when i said that.
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This didn't look very much like jesus.
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And the holy spirit begins to convict us of sin, which just
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Means to miss the mark.
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So i feel like finding the word of god--
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I know that finding the will of god through his word, his will,
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His word, his way all work
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Together and also surrounding myself--
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The way i found the will of god most often is reading the word
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And then getting confirmation through--
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The bible says that wisdom is found in the counsel of many.
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And having people i trust around me that do listen for
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The will of god for my life.
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Everyone can have that. relationships,
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You can have a small group.
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You can have your church community where you surrender
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And submit and say, this is these are some things i'm
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Praying about, this, this or this.
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I've had a lot of young people
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Come to me, and do i go to college?
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I'm struggling with this decision.
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Do i go to this school?
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Do i take a year off and do this internship?
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And i love when you're asked. yeah.
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Because what that undergirds is there's a seeking.
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And i don't believe that god ever denies those who seek.
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You're seeking my will, you're going to find it.
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My dad used to always tell me this.
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You can't miss the will of god when you're seeking it, right?
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If you can wake up every day and say, god, i want your will
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Above mine, convict me of any ways in which my will would
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Undermine yours, show it to me.
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Do you want this for me,
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Or is this something i want for myself?
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I really think it's a lot more breadcrumbs than it is
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Big road signs. so good.
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The seeking is so beautiful.
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I mean, the seekers, no matter where they are,
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I love a seeker.
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I love someone trying to find god somehow, some way.
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Because it says, you seek me, you will find me.
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And so i think that's a beautiful thing.
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So maybe it feels like your time of pursuing the lord,
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Reading the bible is dry or lifeless feels routine
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Or like drudgery to me.
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When i do that, i realize, oh, i think i lost the
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Man behind the page.
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I lost sight of jesus.
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And i've come for whatever reason
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And i'm missing him here, to me
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What i try to do is i pause.
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I invite the holy spirit.
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Would you illuminate jesus?
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Would you help me find jesus here in this story?
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Keep me from just religious checking off boxes just to do
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It and help me encounter his face.
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And then i ask the lord, would you ignite my curiosity?
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Would you teach me to be childlike, to to find you in
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This story, to be curious, to ask questions, to dive in.
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When i have those things turned on,
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Oftentimes i begin to enjoy this experience more when i'm
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Not just doing it because it's something i think i need to,
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But i'm expecting to find jesus there in those pages,
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I can feel the shift in the change.
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I'm not just doing it to check something off.
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I'm approaching the word to find jesus, and i won't
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In first thessalonians 5:16 it says,
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Well, there you go.
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That's plain as day. yes it is.
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Rejoice always in everything. give thanks.
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That's praying without ceasing
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Is just having that attitude of prayer.
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Holy spirit, you're with me today.
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It's that daily in communication.
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David said, where can i go from the presence of the lord?
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Where can i go from your presence. if i go to the
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Uttermost parts of the earth, there you are.
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If i make my bed in hell, no matter what hell you make for
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Yourself, the holy spirit is there with you.
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And so that daily walk with god where i can say anything at any
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Time to the holy spirit,
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That communication, that rejoicing, giving thanks
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In all things.
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And it says if you seek first
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The kingdom, then all these things--
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Yeah, yeah. fall into place.
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All the things, all the things that i'm supposed to do.
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All the things that i'm supposed--
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All the things that i need is there for me.
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And so i think you automatically walk in
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The will of god. yeah, yeah.
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That's so good.
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I feel like sometimes if i have, like, a goal in mind, i
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Will stop at nothing to just, like, get to the goal.
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It doesn't matter how i get there, it doesn't matter--
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I'm like, i can be a little competitive.
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So i feel like sometimes, like the lord's like i'm not showing
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You where you're going because you'll bulldoze everybody.
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I care about the how for you, kalley.
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Not necessarily just the what, but i think, like, i feel like
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I'm kind of in good company.
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I like to think this a little bit.
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I look at john 14 and jesus has just washed his disciples feet,
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Like they're in it. they've laid down their nets.
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They're committed. right.
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And he like, throws in this little statement where
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He's like, um, i'm leaving, but love one another this and that
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And like, you know, no one's
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Listening to whatever else he's saying.
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They're like, sorry, what was that?
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Right, right.
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Cause we left our jobs and our lives.
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And so they circle back.
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Simon peter is like, where exactly can we get an address?
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Can we get a destination point?
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What is the will? yeah.
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Can i can i know where we're going?
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And he says i am the way.
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I am the truth.
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I am the life.
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We ask for a map.
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Yes. i want to know an address.
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Give me an address.
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I'll plug it in. i'll do it the way i want to.
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I'll get there fast.
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I can, or maybe i have to make
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Some little stops along the way.
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I'll run some errands and i'll get there.
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And he's like, there's no-- like, burn your maps, tear up.
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There's no address. there's me. it is me.
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Wow. jesus christ, the way, the truth and the life.
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What's the will of god?
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Stay close to jesus, right.
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He is the representation.
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I only do what i see the father doing.
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So how did he get to the will of god?
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He knew his father and he was listening.
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Just like you're saying, checking in.
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Where are we today?
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What are you saying?
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This prayer that we're taught to pray,
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The lord's prayer is not,
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You know, what's what's my will,
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Show me your will for me,
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But thy kingdom come.
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Thy will be done.
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Yes. so what's the will of god?
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We find it in jesus christ.
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And instead of the destination, the goal--
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It's not that things don't come up in our life where
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We need to make decisions.
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Do i go left? do i go right?
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These are normal.
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But what i love is he gives us himself.
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That's the promise.
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He says, you have one thing that you need, and it's me.
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And i've poured myself out.
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I've given you my spirit, the helper, along the way.
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But the will of god is to stay close to the son, to know the
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Father through him, to be guided by the holy spirit.
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We actually have all we need for life and godliness here.
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It's relational. i don't like it though.
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I'm like, give me like-- how will i know? and get me there.
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And then he and i get to deal with my panic about my
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Ability to make a good decision or my confidence in him or--
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And then it kind of comes out to all these other things that
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That he wants to work out in my heart about trusting him or, or
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If he trusts me, but actually he is the way.
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He is the truth. he is life.
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And it is just that simple.
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These are the ways. this is the will of god for us.
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What shifts when you stop pursuing a
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Destination, and when you realize
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That god himself
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Is the way, is that you start really moving forward
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Because sometimes we just really get stuck because we
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Need the answer, we need the clarity.
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We need the right decision to be made obvious to us.
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And so in a way, we feel like that's the only permission we
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Have to really live our lives and move on.
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I think when we realize, no, the purpose of our lives is to
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Know the presence of god intimately,
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Authentically, and passionately.
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Then you know that no matter where you are,
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Whether you are in the promised
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Land or in sinai or in the wilderness,
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Wherever you are, you are still living out your purpose,
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Which is to know him
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Intimately, authentically, and passionately.
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Somebody needs to write that down, to seek the guide
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And not the map.
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What you're saying right now, because we all want a map
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That's just our flesh.
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We want the one, two, three.
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Tell me how to get there.
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And i love how god lays it out when he's the guide
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Like a scavenger hunt.
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And every stone that you overturn,
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Because seeking isn't the same
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As listening or or looking alone.
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We don't use the word seek very much anymore.
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It's a biblical word.
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So many people are,
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I'm going to miss god's will for my life,
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Like god is hiding his perfect will for me, just waiting to
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Hit me over the head
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And i'm going to marry the wrong person and live
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In hell the rest of my life. yeah.
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So i'm going to quit my job because i think i heard the
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Voice of the lord say,
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You're you're done here. yeah.
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And i want you to go here.
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Okay. is that a joke?
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You know, or what is it?
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But i think following the voice of the lord for your life is
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Stepping out in faith.
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And a lot of times that looks crazy for people.
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Yeah, a lot of times your family doesn't understand it.
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A lot of times your people around you don't understand it.
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And there is wisdom and counsel.
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But sometimes-- a lot of times i've looked at matt
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And it's just like, it's just you and me.
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Yes. yeah.
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But it's just no one will understand this walk of faith
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That we live.
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Sometimes i say to myself, just
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God, you just got to do what you got to do.
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You know, it is what it is.
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And you take the consequences.
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We just walk in obedience, right?
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I don't think you can ever fall
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Stepping out in faith.
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It might look like you fall to everybody else, but you
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Only fall forward. yeah.
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You never fail because god doesn't fail.
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It's not in his character to let us fail.
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And so he's not hiding it from us to pounce on us because we
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Don't get it right.
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And i think we have to take that out of our--
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And surrendering.
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Yeah. he's not hoping we miss it.
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Yeah. that's not who he is.
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Right. yeah.
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And i love that we're all sharing kind of our go to bible
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Verses here, you know, because really, it's when the word of
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God is hidden in our hearts.
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You know, his says in psalm 119 that his word is a
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Lamp unto our feet.
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And so when we are going through these dark paths, it's
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His word that lights the way.
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Um, i'm reminded of psalm one, where it says...
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I mean this version in the niv it says blessed, but in the csb
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Is oh, happy is the one, you know.
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And it's so interesting because we're looking at this picture
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Of a blessed, fulfilled and happy life.
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And it's not in the summation of perfect decisions.
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And i think that's where we really pressure ourselves.
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We feel like our destiny is dependent on us making all the
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Right choices, hearing god perfectly, and make sure that
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We don't mess it up when actually our destiny, our life,
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And how it turns out will be a testament of god's grace, not
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By our perfect choices.
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And you see, this person that is, oh, happy is the one.
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The blessed one is not
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The perfect one is not the one that makes all the right
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Choices, but is the one that's not walking in the step of the
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Wicked, not being influenced by the outside and listening to
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The advice of the wicked or anything but is--
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The meditation is on the word of god, you know.
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And i think because it's so mundane every day, sometimes i
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Think people think, oh, i need this burning bush experience to
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Know god's will, when actually it's the everyday meditation of
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God's word that will really illuminate what god's will
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For your life is.
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In scripture, we're
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Told to meditate on the word of god, but how is
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This different than other types of meditation?
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There are meditations where you're supposed to clear your
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Mind of all thought, and we know that an idle mind is
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The devil's playground.
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As it said, it's hard to just keep space with nothing there.
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Nature abhors a vacuum, as said.
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But god teaches us to meditate on his word.
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Why? because his word is like our spiritual dna.
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His word is the pattern for which we should live.
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So when we meditate on his word, that means to take a
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Scripture, might just take one verse,
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And i wouldn't take a verse like he had a painful disease
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In his loins or something like that, but encouraging verse
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That you may find one of the psalms. even like psalm 23, is
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A great example of that.
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It talks about who the lord is to us as our shepherd.
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Take that verse and meditate on that, and then think about how
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Has god led me to green pastures?
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How has his rod and his staff comforted me and began to
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Journal and make a list of how has god met me in these places?
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Maybe even how he's walked with me through the valley of the
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Shadow of death, and you'll begin to worship through your
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Meditation, which elevates
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Everything about your perspective.
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Your physical body falls in line with that.
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Wherever your mind goes, the rest of you goes.
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And this is why it's so powerful.
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Because we can take god's
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Perspective when we take his word.
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And that's what we put as the forefront of the dna, so to
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Speak, of our thought patterns.
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I'm learning that obedience doesn't always mean that i'll
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Understand what he asked me to do.
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Right.
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A couple of weeks ago, barry and i were--
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We flew to los angeles just to take, like, five days, a little
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Break by the by the ocean.
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And when we flew into the airport, we got an uber to take
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Us to the hotel because we
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Didn't want to have to drive anywhere.
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And while we're getting there, i feel the holy spirit say, i
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Want you to pray for your driver.
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And i'm like, okay, lord, i'll do it quietly.
00:28:30.699 --> 00:28:32.802
And it's like, no, no, i actually would like once he
00:28:32.802 --> 00:28:35.738
Stops, you pray for your driver.
00:28:35.738 --> 00:28:38.007
So he pulls into the hotel and i said to him, sir, i would be
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Really grateful if i could pray for you.
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And he said, oh, okay.
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So i pray, i feel god's telling me to pray for him.
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And we get out of the car and take our bags in.
00:28:50.252 --> 00:28:52.822
And barry was like, what was that?
00:28:52.822 --> 00:28:54.657
And i said, i've absolutely no idea.
00:28:54.657 --> 00:28:57.026
I just know that god said, pray for this man.
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And the rest is up to the lord, you know.
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Because i used to think if you're told to
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Do something, you'll see-- the man
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Will repent and things will happen.
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And, but now i'm learning just that still gentle voice.
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And you just obey.
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And the rest is left up to god.
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Yeah. and i love that. yeah, i love that.
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Well, both your scripture and the one that you shared, both
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Meditating on the word and rejoicing always,
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Both are a challenge to step
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Out of our perspective and into god's
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Because it requires that you do that.
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To rejoice and to meditate is you're replacing your thoughts
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And your concerns,
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And i think that's the easiest way to find the will
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Of god, because i love how you said it was just you and matt
00:29:40.069 --> 00:29:42.872
Sometimes, because even jesus was alone and wrestled with
00:29:42.872 --> 00:29:46.375
God's will by himself.
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And there are times when you don't have a counsel,
00:29:48.477 --> 00:29:51.080
You don't have people.
00:29:51.080 --> 00:29:52.348
And you really-- maybe god's will is presented to you in a
00:29:52.348 --> 00:29:55.618
Way like it was to jesus as a dying, i don't want to do this.
00:29:55.618 --> 00:29:59.822
Yeah, i know what that feels like.
00:29:59.822 --> 00:30:01.924
Probably all of us,
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If you walk with god very long, you know that he'll ask you to
00:30:03.225 --> 00:30:05.127
Do things you're not comfortable with.
00:30:05.127 --> 00:30:06.929
Yeah, but on the other side of that, there's beautiful reward.
00:30:06.929 --> 00:30:10.733
There really is.
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And i just want people to feel encouraged that, you know, it
00:30:12.034 --> 00:30:15.371
Doesn't take long to walk with the lord to reap the fruit of
00:30:15.371 --> 00:30:18.741
His faithfulness. he really is so faithful.
00:30:18.741 --> 00:30:21.911
And you'll see him faithful to others by watching you just
00:30:21.911 --> 00:30:26.582
Show up in the middle of the storm and continue to believe,
00:30:26.582 --> 00:30:31.387
You know, and continue to trust him,
00:30:31.387 --> 00:30:34.056
Continue to love him even though things haven't gone
00:30:34.056 --> 00:30:37.593
The way that you want. i believe it's his delight.
00:30:37.593 --> 00:30:41.497
The bible says to reveal his mysteries to us.
00:30:41.497 --> 00:30:45.701
Absolutely. and i know god's will can be a mystery, and it
00:30:45.701 --> 00:30:48.804
Can be something that we really wrestle with.
00:30:48.804 --> 00:30:52.308
But it doesn't have to be so complicated.
00:30:52.308 --> 00:30:55.444
He isn't against us.
00:30:55.444 --> 00:30:56.445
He's not hiding it from us.
00:30:56.445 --> 00:30:58.147
But seeking does mean an
00:30:58.147 --> 00:31:00.182
Intention to look for something.
00:31:00.182 --> 00:31:03.085
I remember my kids, they couldn't find one shoe.
00:31:03.085 --> 00:31:05.621
It seemed like it happened all the time.
00:31:05.621 --> 00:31:07.289
They'd have one shoe and couldn't find the other one.
00:31:07.289 --> 00:31:09.191
And i'd go, well, did you go look?
00:31:09.191 --> 00:31:11.160
And you know, i have three boys and a girl.
00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:12.928
The boys, it's like, this is how they look for
00:31:12.928 --> 00:31:15.564
A shoe. i'm like, it's going to be down.
00:31:15.564 --> 00:31:17.666
You got to move things around to find it.
00:31:17.666 --> 00:31:20.536
That's what seeking is.
00:31:20.536 --> 00:31:22.004
It isn't just, isn't just looking at what's laying
00:31:22.004 --> 00:31:24.540
On the surface, but the intention to god.
00:31:24.540 --> 00:31:27.676
I want to dig into your will for my life, because i know
00:31:27.676 --> 00:31:32.548
God's will is always connected to his people.
00:31:32.548 --> 00:31:35.417
He never has a purpose that's outside of his people.
00:31:35.417 --> 00:31:38.053
So we can't in isolation find the will of god.
00:31:38.053 --> 00:31:41.390
It's always going to be connected to how could it
00:31:41.390 --> 00:31:43.225
Help someone else?
00:31:43.225 --> 00:31:45.027
And i think that's the perspective we should have in
00:31:45.027 --> 00:31:48.864
Seeking the will of god
00:31:48.864 --> 00:31:50.032
Is this is going to bless somebody else.
00:31:50.032 --> 00:31:51.700
It's not just about god blessing me.
00:31:51.700 --> 00:31:53.869
Yes.
00:31:53.869 --> 00:31:55.604
As we're trying to figure out what's the will of god for my
00:31:55.604 --> 00:31:58.507
Life, obedience is such a massive part because his ways
00:31:58.507 --> 00:32:02.478
Are higher than ours.
00:32:02.478 --> 00:32:04.179
His thoughts are different than ours.
00:32:04.179 --> 00:32:06.181
How am i going to understand the will of a god who has
00:32:06.181 --> 00:32:09.551
Different thoughts and ways than i do?
00:32:09.551 --> 00:32:11.620
Obey. take that step and step by step,
00:32:11.620 --> 00:32:14.656
I begin to see things the way that he does.
00:32:14.656 --> 00:32:18.260
In obedience,
00:32:18.260 --> 00:32:19.561
I submit myself under his plans and his purposes, and i begin
00:32:19.561 --> 00:32:24.266
To know him there.
00:32:24.266 --> 00:32:26.668
I think sometimes it's not even the where am i going
00:32:26.668 --> 00:32:28.570
But who am i becoming along the way? where it's like sometimes
00:32:28.570 --> 00:32:32.307
These, these clues are these hints of like,
00:32:32.307 --> 00:32:34.510
What we're meant to be,
00:32:34.510 --> 00:32:35.778
It's not just my production, it's not just what i produce or
00:32:35.778 --> 00:32:38.580
Export from myself, but like, who are you? like
00:32:38.580 --> 00:32:41.150
God, what are the designs,
00:32:41.150 --> 00:32:42.418
The purposes of god over my life?
00:32:42.418 --> 00:32:44.787
What did you put inside of me?
00:32:44.787 --> 00:32:46.822
Because then it's not just get to this place, get to that
00:32:46.822 --> 00:32:49.158
But actually the overflow of the design of god, the
00:32:49.158 --> 00:32:52.961
Identity that i am called by my father.
00:32:52.961 --> 00:32:56.532
I think the more that i've kind of discovered through the word
00:32:56.532 --> 00:32:58.767
Of god, through through words, from other people, from the
00:32:58.767 --> 00:33:01.870
Lord, it kind of brings a degree of clarity where it's
00:33:01.870 --> 00:33:04.907
Like you turn right or left.
00:33:04.907 --> 00:33:07.276
Well, i know that that's not bad or wrong,
00:33:07.276 --> 00:33:09.511
But that's not me.
00:33:09.511 --> 00:33:11.046
Like, i know who the lord's revealing me to be.
00:33:11.046 --> 00:33:13.549
That's good. and so that even can do some
00:33:13.549 --> 00:33:16.385
Decision making where it's like--
00:33:16.385 --> 00:33:19.388
It's not to say that he won't do some kind of left field
00:33:19.388 --> 00:33:21.890
Crazy thing, but i think when we understand our design,
00:33:21.890 --> 00:33:25.294
What does he put inside of me?
00:33:25.294 --> 00:33:27.362
And the way that we get there is the voice of our father.
00:33:27.362 --> 00:33:29.898
Fathers speak purpose, they breathe identity.
00:33:29.898 --> 00:33:33.068
The more that we understand in christ who we are, and then the
00:33:33.068 --> 00:33:36.939
Specifics of what he's placed on the inside,
00:33:36.939 --> 00:33:40.709
I think for who i know myself
00:33:40.709 --> 00:33:42.411
To be now, there is a bit more clarity
00:33:42.411 --> 00:33:45.948
In my walk that maybe when i was 20, i didn't know,
00:33:45.948 --> 00:33:49.651
You know what i'm saying?
00:33:49.651 --> 00:33:50.886
My developmental language with the lord and who he says
00:33:50.886 --> 00:33:53.922
That i am through the word, but also like the other words from
00:33:53.922 --> 00:33:57.326
People in my life now, holding that and walking that out and
00:33:57.326 --> 00:34:00.996
Living it does bring a degree of clarity about the plans and
00:34:00.996 --> 00:34:05.634
Purposes of god over who we are and who we're becoming, not
00:34:05.634 --> 00:34:10.439
Just, you know, where we're trying to get.
00:34:10.439 --> 00:34:12.975
And i think that that's been-- sometimes the question isn't
00:34:12.975 --> 00:34:16.278
Where or what or how.
00:34:16.278 --> 00:34:18.113
Sometimes the question is who, god?
00:34:18.113 --> 00:34:19.882
Who are you forming me to be?
00:34:19.882 --> 00:34:21.450
Who are you forming me to be in the meantime?
00:34:21.450 --> 00:34:23.619
Yeah. and i think it's also a reminder that, you know, when
00:34:23.619 --> 00:34:26.355
God created us, he created us to be children and not slaves.
00:34:26.355 --> 00:34:30.826
And i'm a huge believer,
00:34:30.826 --> 00:34:32.161
In all your ways acknowledge him and he'll make
00:34:32.161 --> 00:34:34.263
Your paths straight, absolutely.
00:34:34.263 --> 00:34:35.397
But at the same time, are we supposed to live
00:34:35.397 --> 00:34:38.834
In a way where we're like, okay, yellow or blue?
00:34:38.834 --> 00:34:41.036
God, yellow or blue? yellow or blue?
00:34:41.036 --> 00:34:43.639
I'm not going to make a choice
00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:44.673
Unless you tell me yellow or blue.
00:34:44.673 --> 00:34:46.675
But god has also created us to not just be servants,
00:34:46.675 --> 00:34:50.512
But also his friends. yes.
00:34:50.512 --> 00:34:52.648
To live in fear of the lord.
00:34:52.648 --> 00:34:54.049
There is some agency to that, you know.
00:34:54.049 --> 00:34:57.486
Not to say, oh, we're about to go and do whatever and
00:34:57.486 --> 00:35:00.622
Check in once in a while.
00:35:00.622 --> 00:35:01.890
But like, you know, we're supposed to live in step with
00:35:01.890 --> 00:35:04.793
His spirit, but there's also some agency that we are given
00:35:04.793 --> 00:35:08.997
To rule and reign.
00:35:08.997 --> 00:35:10.098
That's in our design, right?
00:35:10.098 --> 00:35:11.667
In genesis 2 like it's a god has created
00:35:11.667 --> 00:35:14.236
Us to be fruitful, to rule and reign.
00:35:14.236 --> 00:35:17.172
And so if we live in a way where we're constantly afraid
00:35:17.172 --> 00:35:21.510
Of bad choices because we feel like our alignment with the
00:35:21.510 --> 00:35:26.448
Lord is dependent on the quality of these choices,
00:35:26.448 --> 00:35:31.753
I think at that point we're
00:35:31.753 --> 00:35:33.188
Negating the blood of jesus christ.
00:35:33.188 --> 00:35:35.357
Yeah. god will be with you
00:35:35.357 --> 00:35:37.826
Good choices or bad. yeah, right.
00:35:37.826 --> 00:35:40.662
In psalm 139, whether you are in the heights,
00:35:40.662 --> 00:35:44.433
He'll be there with-- make your bed in the depths,
00:35:44.433 --> 00:35:46.835
He'll be there.
00:35:46.835 --> 00:35:48.303
You know, i think sometimes we feel like, oh my gosh, my faith
00:35:48.303 --> 00:35:52.541
Walk and the quality of my faith walk and my ability to
00:35:52.541 --> 00:35:56.678
Walk in all his blessings depends,
00:35:56.678 --> 00:35:59.147
It depends on my ability-- yeah.
00:35:59.147 --> 00:36:02.150
To be able to perform--
00:36:02.150 --> 00:36:04.152
Yeah. as a believer.
00:36:04.152 --> 00:36:05.721
Yeah. um, when we get to that place in our faith walk,
00:36:05.721 --> 00:36:10.259
We are no longer trusting in the blood of jesus christ
00:36:10.259 --> 00:36:14.896
And the grace of our father.
00:36:14.896 --> 00:36:17.232
You know, like i said before, like my life is not going to be
00:36:17.232 --> 00:36:20.369
A testament of how i got it right all the time, but it's
00:36:20.369 --> 00:36:23.005
Going to be a testament of grace.
00:36:23.005 --> 00:36:25.641
It's a terrible feeling when
00:36:25.641 --> 00:36:27.376
You think you might have missed god.
00:36:27.376 --> 00:36:29.278
Like maybe you made a bad decision and you ended up in a
00:36:29.278 --> 00:36:32.381
Place where you think, i know this isn't what god wanted for
00:36:32.381 --> 00:36:34.816
My life, so now i've blown it.
00:36:34.816 --> 00:36:36.885
Well, god is way, way bigger than any mistake that you
00:36:36.885 --> 00:36:40.922
And i could ever make.
00:36:40.922 --> 00:36:43.292
And god is far more interested in what he's doing in you than
00:36:43.292 --> 00:36:47.529
What he might do through you.
00:36:47.529 --> 00:36:49.564
So don't worry about that.
00:36:49.564 --> 00:36:50.565
If you feel you've blown it,
00:36:50.565 --> 00:36:52.000
That is one of the great things about christianity, that we
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:54.936
Get to repent.
00:36:54.936 --> 00:36:56.471
And all that simply means is we stop going in the direction we
00:36:56.471 --> 00:37:00.142
Were going in, and we turn
00:37:00.142 --> 00:37:02.344
Around and we go on a new direction.
00:37:02.344 --> 00:37:04.346
God's plans for you are not
00:37:04.346 --> 00:37:06.248
Ruined by some bad decision you made.
00:37:06.248 --> 00:37:09.251
God's plans is keep going.
00:37:09.251 --> 00:37:11.053
He has a plan for your life, and it's not over yet until
00:37:11.053 --> 00:37:14.323
You're home with jesus.
00:37:14.323 --> 00:37:15.691
It's not done.
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That's a daily, daily prayer of mine.
00:37:36.244 --> 00:37:38.480
Lord, give me wisdom and understanding. because i
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:40.549
Remember when barry and i
00:37:40.549 --> 00:37:41.550
Were first married and then i got pregnant.
00:37:41.550 --> 00:37:44.353
We discovered we were going to have a little boy,
00:37:44.353 --> 00:37:45.554
And we were so excited.
00:37:45.554 --> 00:37:47.189
But we were struggling financially.
00:37:47.189 --> 00:37:49.391
We didn't have a proper job, and we were wondering what
00:37:49.391 --> 00:37:52.728
To do and really desperately
00:37:52.728 --> 00:37:54.196
Praying that god would open a door.
00:37:54.196 --> 00:37:56.298
And then i get a call from a guy called steve arterburn and
00:37:56.298 --> 00:37:59.701
He said, we started this thing called women of faith, and we
00:37:59.701 --> 00:38:02.838
Would love you to join the team.
00:38:02.838 --> 00:38:04.239
And i'm like, oh, to do what?
00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:05.974
And he said, we would love you to be the worship leader.
00:38:05.974 --> 00:38:08.143
It was just one of those times because i'm thinking, but lord,
00:38:08.143 --> 00:38:10.045
That's actually not me.
00:38:10.045 --> 00:38:11.780
You've not called me to do that, i know.
00:38:11.780 --> 00:38:14.416
I mean, i sing, but i haven't been called.
00:38:14.416 --> 00:38:16.451
I don't have that anointing of a worship leader.
00:38:16.451 --> 00:38:18.787
This has to be for somebody else.
00:38:18.787 --> 00:38:20.889
And it was one of the hardest things because there was going
00:38:20.889 --> 00:38:23.625
To be a weekly salary,
00:38:23.625 --> 00:38:24.626
There was going to be all sorts of stuff.
00:38:24.626 --> 00:38:27.162
But to say to him, thank you so much, but it's not me.
00:38:27.162 --> 00:38:31.967
There must be somebody else you're supposed to find.
00:38:31.967 --> 00:38:34.336
And i remember that night when we just was like, wow.
00:38:34.336 --> 00:38:38.740
I mean, couldn't you become a worship leader?
00:38:38.740 --> 00:38:41.977
Couldn't you? and i'm like, no, that's
00:38:41.977 --> 00:38:44.179
Not the calling god's got on my life.
00:38:44.179 --> 00:38:46.548
And it was only like, maybe, i don't know.
00:38:46.548 --> 00:38:48.016
A month later, he called back and said, actually, i think i
00:38:48.016 --> 00:38:50.018
Got it wrong.
00:38:50.018 --> 00:38:51.119
I think you're supposed to be one of the speakers.
00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:52.354
Wow. and i was like, yep, all in.
00:38:52.354 --> 00:38:55.290
But there is asking god for wisdom to know.
00:38:55.290 --> 00:38:59.294
Yeah. and to know who god is.
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What you're saying, kalley, know who god is calling us to be,
00:39:01.096 --> 00:39:03.765
Who's creating us to be so that you can say yes, but sometimes
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You have to say no
00:39:07.702 --> 00:39:08.970
So that when the yes comes along, you're ready.
00:39:08.970 --> 00:39:12.040
Yes. yes. that's good.
00:39:12.040 --> 00:39:14.443
Understanding our identity in christ really helps
00:39:14.443 --> 00:39:17.078
Us discern god's will for our life
00:39:17.078 --> 00:39:19.514
Because as we seek his will, he shows us more of who we
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Were created to be.
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It's like a dance, when we reveal ourselves to him through
00:39:25.987 --> 00:39:29.357
Repentance and through confession, he corrects us.
00:39:29.357 --> 00:39:32.594
He instructs us, and he reveals to us more of who we were
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Made to be.
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You know, there's parts of you that god hid from you.
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He's created gifts, talents, um, beautiful ideas that are
00:39:42.003 --> 00:39:46.341
Planted in your heart that are treasures to him.
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But he hides those from us until we get to know him.
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And then they're reflected in our relationship as we
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Become more like jesus
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Leading the church that i lead with my husband,
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When we were newly stepping into that role, there was some
00:40:03.358 --> 00:40:06.528
Big decisions that needed to be made and things that had been
00:40:06.528 --> 00:40:09.764
Deferred that really needed to be done.
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And one of them in particular,
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I was really seeking the lord going,
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I want to be sure, because i'm not going to be liked.
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This is going to be a tough decision, but i know you didn't
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Put me in this position because i'm worried about what people
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Think, but i'm not going to be
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Liked and i really want to know.
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I want to hear. i want the burning bush.
00:40:28.283 --> 00:40:30.318
Right? and i didn't get that.
00:40:30.318 --> 00:40:33.555
And i remember even waking up for that executive team meeting
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That morning going, i need a decision.
00:40:36.591 --> 00:40:38.493
I need to know it's going to come.
00:40:38.493 --> 00:40:39.928
The buck stops here. i need to know.
00:40:39.928 --> 00:40:41.463
I didn't feel a strong one way or the other.
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And in the car on the way,
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Stacy said, you're really quiet.
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And i said, yeah, i'm still waiting for the burning bush.
00:40:47.569 --> 00:40:51.072
And so i just asked the lord, you know, we were going in the
00:40:51.072 --> 00:40:54.175
Elevator upstairs, and i just said, i need to know, why
00:40:54.175 --> 00:40:56.978
Aren't you telling me?
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And so sweetly, he said, because i've already given you
00:40:58.146 --> 00:41:01.182
The wisdom to make this decision, right.
00:41:01.182 --> 00:41:04.052
Wow. you don't need a rhema word.
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You have the wisdom.
00:41:06.888 --> 00:41:08.023
You know what's the right thing to do.
00:41:08.023 --> 00:41:10.191
And i just went, okay, this is why.
00:41:10.191 --> 00:41:12.928
Partly is because i could be the leader that doesn't even
00:41:12.928 --> 00:41:16.831
Seek the will of god and just willy nilly goes in and goes,
00:41:16.831 --> 00:41:19.734
This is what needs to happen, but still lean into that and
00:41:19.734 --> 00:41:23.672
Wait for him to give us the green light to go,
00:41:23.672 --> 00:41:27.208
I put you here.
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Go ahead and be who i've called you to be.
00:41:28.510 --> 00:41:31.780
So i do believe we've given people some really good,
00:41:31.780 --> 00:41:34.683
You know, marching orders for,
00:41:34.683 --> 00:41:36.685
Try this, try this, try this, and continue to have your bible
00:41:36.685 --> 00:41:40.922
Open because it's frustrating as a bible teacher, when people
00:41:40.922 --> 00:41:44.159
Say god is silent and their bible is closed and dusty.
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:48.330
It's like he's speaking to you.
00:41:48.330 --> 00:41:50.031
He's always speaking.
00:41:50.031 --> 00:41:51.499
Remember kim clement saying that the conversation
00:41:51.499 --> 00:41:55.070
Of the godhead is something you are invited.
00:41:55.070 --> 00:41:57.472
The veil was torn.
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Yes. seek the presence of god.
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Make room for him.
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Don't make him chase you down,
00:42:01.643 --> 00:42:04.012
You know, to give you a word.
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But set aside time, a margin to hear god.
00:42:05.714 --> 00:42:09.884
What is your will? i love that.
00:42:09.884 --> 00:42:11.252
Do the best you can. yes.
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God has given you wisdom.
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Yes. you know?
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So do do what you can do for yourself.
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Don't be lazy.
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Don't be foolish and do the best you can.
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A lot of people will--
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They give up on their commitments,
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Stop-- calling it god or faith.
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And yet there's no wisdom.
00:42:31.373 --> 00:42:33.208
And i feel like when there's faith, there's always wisdom
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Connected to that.
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They're not apart from one another.
00:42:37.912 --> 00:42:39.681
Exactly.
00:42:39.681 --> 00:42:40.915
I mean, i love that i love the idea of living by wisdom.
00:42:40.915 --> 00:42:43.585
And i think sometimes we negate that whole part of the bible,
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And we try to magically hear
00:42:47.689 --> 00:42:50.158
From god every time we need him
00:42:50.158 --> 00:42:52.227
When actually, god makes it very clear.
00:42:52.227 --> 00:42:55.196
Yeah.
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That if you seek wisdom, you will find it.
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Yes, yes. that he will give it to you.
00:42:58.266 --> 00:43:01.102
One of my daily prayers is very simple, every single day, and i
00:43:01.102 --> 00:43:05.540
Pray this for my son.
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I pray this for my husband too,
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And for myself for wisdom and discernment.
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If you think about the kind of world we're living in, the
00:43:11.646 --> 00:43:14.182
World's kind of nutty at the moment.
00:43:14.182 --> 00:43:15.750
And if you do a lot of social media, you hear all sorts of
00:43:15.750 --> 00:43:19.387
Things coming at you, telling you this is the right way to do
00:43:19.387 --> 00:43:22.290
Things and that's the right way to do things.
00:43:22.290 --> 00:43:24.292
And even honestly, within the church, you know, people
00:43:24.292 --> 00:43:28.296
Saying, well, we're done with this person and we're done
00:43:28.296 --> 00:43:30.098
With that person.
00:43:30.098 --> 00:43:31.666
One of the things that god promises is that if you lack
00:43:31.666 --> 00:43:35.103
Wisdom, ask and the lord will gladly give it to you.
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So that's a daily prayer for
00:43:39.107 --> 00:43:40.408
Me, and it's a daily prayer for you.
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Ask god for wisdom.
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He would love to give it to you.
00:43:43.645 --> 00:43:46.114
One of my children was born--
00:43:46.114 --> 00:43:47.782
Two of them were born premature, but one was born
00:43:47.782 --> 00:43:50.218
On moving day. oh, gosh.
00:43:50.218 --> 00:43:52.854
So she came out, i think, at, like, um, like 2 a.m.
00:43:52.854 --> 00:43:57.092
Or so, and the moving trucks came at 7:00.
00:43:57.092 --> 00:44:00.462
And it was during this time-- and plus she was a nicu baby.
00:44:00.462 --> 00:44:04.733
But at the same time, my husband and i, we were going
00:44:04.733 --> 00:44:07.335
Through a job change.
00:44:07.335 --> 00:44:08.803
So a lot was happening that week.
00:44:08.803 --> 00:44:12.474
And that morning.
00:44:12.474 --> 00:44:13.675
Right? just in that one little
00:44:13.675 --> 00:44:16.511
Slot of time and about like a month later, we got a bill.
00:44:16.511 --> 00:44:23.118
And the bill was an amount i have never seen in my life.
00:44:23.118 --> 00:44:29.357
And what turned out was it was like an administrative glitch
00:44:29.357 --> 00:44:33.661
Because she was born in the short time slot and i mean like
00:44:33.661 --> 00:44:38.133
24 hour time slot when--
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Between jobs.
00:44:40.301 --> 00:44:41.035
When between jobs, a job change.
00:44:41.035 --> 00:44:43.905
So she was not covered by insurance.
00:44:43.905 --> 00:44:46.574
So and this was a nicu baby.
00:44:46.574 --> 00:44:48.409
So a day in the nicu was already like a lot.
00:44:48.409 --> 00:44:51.312
Oh, wow.
00:44:51.312 --> 00:44:52.213
And here i was thinking like, it's over.
00:44:52.213 --> 00:44:55.683
Everything is over.
00:44:55.683 --> 00:44:57.051
And i was trying to navigate the will of god like god.
00:44:57.051 --> 00:45:01.623
Do you want us to quit our jobs and get a different kind of job
00:45:01.623 --> 00:45:05.894
That's not in church ministry?
00:45:05.894 --> 00:45:07.529
Are you disappointed that i had another child?
00:45:07.529 --> 00:45:09.964
Like, you know, like i was running to all these
00:45:09.964 --> 00:45:12.967
Assumptions, you know?
00:45:12.967 --> 00:45:14.269
Yeah. and it's so interesting what we think of god tends to
00:45:14.269 --> 00:45:18.640
Get revealed when we go through things like that, you know?
00:45:18.640 --> 00:45:22.377
But i remember in the chaos, my husband and i were like, okay,
00:45:22.377 --> 00:45:26.414
Nothing productive is happening right now.
00:45:26.414 --> 00:45:28.416
We're not coming to any viable
00:45:28.416 --> 00:45:29.717
Solutions by freaking out about it.
00:45:29.717 --> 00:45:32.387
So we committed we're going to spend an hour separately
00:45:32.387 --> 00:45:36.891
Inquiring of the lord.
00:45:36.891 --> 00:45:39.661
And i remember the first 30 minutes of that hour, i was
00:45:39.661 --> 00:45:43.031
Just panicking. it wasn't really great.
00:45:43.031 --> 00:45:45.099
Like i wouldn't publish any of the prayers that i prayed
00:45:45.099 --> 00:45:49.103
In that time.
00:45:49.103 --> 00:45:50.071
Well, they're probably in psalms, right?
00:45:50.071 --> 00:45:52.407
There you go.
00:45:52.407 --> 00:45:53.641
I mean, i was just panicking, you know, i was trying to
00:45:53.641 --> 00:45:56.678
Figure out a solution. yeah.
00:45:56.678 --> 00:45:59.614
Instead of leaning into his presence.
00:45:59.614 --> 00:46:02.784
And i think when we're just, when we value solution over
00:46:02.784 --> 00:46:07.088
His presence
00:46:07.088 --> 00:46:08.890
That's when we just get stuck. yeah.
00:46:08.890 --> 00:46:12.527
Until i had to let go of the need for solution.
00:46:12.527 --> 00:46:15.496
Yeah.
00:46:15.496 --> 00:46:16.364
And i had to welcome in his presence.
00:46:16.364 --> 00:46:19.367
And i remember i felt a peace, one, but two, i felt the lord
00:46:19.367 --> 00:46:24.739
Say i have given your husband wisdom.
00:46:24.739 --> 00:46:27.275
Oh, wow. you know.
00:46:27.275 --> 00:46:28.877
And so i came out of my prayer corner.
00:46:28.877 --> 00:46:31.813
You have the answer.
00:46:31.813 --> 00:46:33.548
You know, i was like, okay.
00:46:33.548 --> 00:46:35.016
And none of that made sense to me, you know?
00:46:35.016 --> 00:46:37.385
But i looked at my husband and i said, the lord told me,
00:46:37.385 --> 00:46:41.389
You got it. you got it.
00:46:41.389 --> 00:46:43.825
But what's interesting is my husband looked at me and he
00:46:43.825 --> 00:46:46.194
Said, yeah, i think i know what to do.
00:46:46.194 --> 00:46:49.030
And we spent the next year hacking away at this bill.
00:46:49.030 --> 00:46:54.502
But that final bill that we had left, the hospital
00:46:54.502 --> 00:46:59.073
Administrator person that we've been working with for a year
00:46:59.073 --> 00:47:01.709
Was like, it's covered.
00:47:01.709 --> 00:47:04.078
And i go, what do you mean we didn't pay it?
00:47:04.078 --> 00:47:06.714
And she went, it's just done.
00:47:06.714 --> 00:47:08.616
It's cleared. praise god.
00:47:08.616 --> 00:47:10.385
You know, and i asked all
00:47:10.385 --> 00:47:11.286
The doctors like, well, who covered it?
00:47:11.286 --> 00:47:13.888
Nobody knows.
00:47:13.888 --> 00:47:15.623
It was just covered, that last big chunk.
00:47:15.623 --> 00:47:18.526
And so, i mean, the wisdom of the lord is there.
00:47:18.526 --> 00:47:21.896
And i just want to encourage anybody that's being stuck,
00:47:21.896 --> 00:47:25.366
That's stuck right now and and just petrified of just getting
00:47:25.366 --> 00:47:28.736
It wrong, the lord of the lord is with you.
00:47:28.736 --> 00:47:32.340
And that lord is a spirit of wisdom.
00:47:32.340 --> 00:47:35.043
Yeah. that's right.
00:47:35.043 --> 00:47:36.077
You know, and when you ask, he will give it.
00:47:36.077 --> 00:47:38.646
Yeah. you know, just like sheila was saying, the will of
00:47:38.646 --> 00:47:40.648
The lord is not lost.
00:47:40.648 --> 00:47:42.083
No, you don't have to go chasing for it.
00:47:42.083 --> 00:47:44.452
Yeah. you could abide in him. amen.
00:47:44.452 --> 00:47:47.188
And just abide in the vine.
00:47:47.188 --> 00:47:48.389
Abide in his words.
00:47:48.389 --> 00:47:49.657
And the instructions are there.
00:47:49.657 --> 00:47:51.559
So can we just pray for the ones that are in that place?
00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:56.064
God, we are not stuck.
00:47:56.064 --> 00:47:58.499
You are not refusing advice and wisdom and counsel.
00:47:58.499 --> 00:48:03.871
Jesus, we search you. thank you.
00:48:03.871 --> 00:48:07.976
But we right now prioritize
00:48:07.976 --> 00:48:10.411
Your presence over all the answers.
00:48:10.411 --> 00:48:15.216
And forgive us if we have taken so much control of our lives
00:48:15.216 --> 00:48:20.521
That we have begun to ignore your nearness.
00:48:20.521 --> 00:48:23.791
Jesus. holy spirit, we
00:48:23.791 --> 00:48:27.161
Acknowledge you and we thank you.
00:48:27.161 --> 00:48:30.398
We thank you for always speaking through your word.
00:48:30.398 --> 00:48:33.067
We thank you that we have a lamp unto our feet and a light
00:48:33.067 --> 00:48:37.005
Unto our path.
00:48:37.005 --> 00:48:38.206
God, i just pray for anybody that is stressed, anxious,
00:48:38.206 --> 00:48:42.377
Filled with regret, wondering if they have missed your will.
00:48:42.377 --> 00:48:46.981
Lord, they cannot miss your
00:48:46.981 --> 00:48:48.483
Will as long as they are with you.
00:48:48.483 --> 00:48:50.451
We thank you for that.
00:48:50.451 --> 00:48:51.719
We thank you for your grace, your kindness, and your mercy.
00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:55.123
In jesus' name we pray,
00:48:55.123 --> 00:48:56.824
Amen. amen.
00:48:56.824 --> 00:48:59.861
Connect with us on social media and let us know how our team
00:48:59.861 --> 00:49:02.697
Can pray for you.
00:49:02.697 --> 00:49:07.635
Okay. so kalley. yes.
00:49:10.571 --> 00:49:12.373
Kristen asked us this question in
00:49:12.373 --> 00:49:14.075
Instagram. she says, how do i know if jesus is calling me
00:49:14.075 --> 00:49:19.447
Or if i'm rationalizing to
00:49:19.447 --> 00:49:21.883
Say yes to something i want to do?
00:49:21.883 --> 00:49:24.786
My head says one thing.
00:49:24.786 --> 00:49:26.354
And my heart says another.
00:49:26.354 --> 00:49:27.755
What would you say to that?
00:49:27.755 --> 00:49:28.990
To that question?
00:49:28.990 --> 00:49:29.991
I mean, that's a great question.
00:49:29.991 --> 00:49:31.793
I think when in doubt, i ask him.
00:49:31.793 --> 00:49:34.729
I just say, hey, is this one of those where you're asking me to
00:49:34.729 --> 00:49:38.633
Do something different and i'm afraid, or i don't want to?
00:49:38.633 --> 00:49:41.803
Would you align me to to what you're saying?
00:49:41.803 --> 00:49:44.372
Would you give me strength to say yes,
00:49:44.372 --> 00:49:46.374
And help me walk this out?
00:49:46.374 --> 00:49:47.809
Yeah. sometimes, though, he does speak through our desires.
00:49:47.809 --> 00:49:50.745
Totally.
00:49:50.745 --> 00:49:51.979
And so i think to me, there's not a cut and dry answer.
00:49:51.979 --> 00:49:54.816
Why? because this is relational.
00:49:54.816 --> 00:49:56.818
He is a relational god, and oftentimes he'll throw
00:49:56.818 --> 00:50:00.488
Something out there knowing we don't know. why?
00:50:00.488 --> 00:50:03.558
Because he wants to draw us to himself.
00:50:03.558 --> 00:50:06.561
He knows we need him.
00:50:06.561 --> 00:50:08.563
He loves that it's a relationship.
00:50:08.563 --> 00:50:10.832
So if i have a question, if i have a doubt,
00:50:10.832 --> 00:50:14.102
Rather than like, oh, i should
00:50:14.102 --> 00:50:15.203
Know this, i should know the answer,
00:50:15.203 --> 00:50:16.737
I go to my father and
00:50:16.737 --> 00:50:18.506
I ask him, where are you at?
00:50:18.506 --> 00:50:20.741
Is this a good desire?
00:50:20.741 --> 00:50:21.776
Is this just me?
00:50:21.776 --> 00:50:23.010
He longs to meet us there.
00:50:23.010 --> 00:50:25.513
He longs to teach us about
00:50:25.513 --> 00:50:27.415
Himself, to teach us about ourselves.
00:50:27.415 --> 00:50:30.852
These are great conversations to have with him.
00:50:30.852 --> 00:50:33.287
That's amazing.
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How to Know God's Will - Episode 1108

October 22, 2025 | S7 E1108 | 52:34

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