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Better Together | An Intimate Relationship with God - Episode 1087 | August 26, 2025
- The key to experiencing intimacy with god is to
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- Understand how much we are loved.
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- Throughout scripture, god compares us to a bride,
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- Beautiful, pure, eager to meet her beloved.
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- Come on, we need to talk about this.
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- ♪♪
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- So i don't know if you guys remember, you probably do, in
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- Genesis 11, the story of the tower of babel.
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- Yeah. right.
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- And it's when people come together with all this ambition
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- And this a lot of talk on.
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- We're going to build this,
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- We're going to make a name for ourselves.
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- And obviously god didn't like that.
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- It was a gathering based on ambition and sin.
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- Pride, right.
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- And they eventually became scattered.
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- And i think what's beautiful is that years and years and years
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- Later, what sin scattered the holy spirit gathered.
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- Right? and in acts two, when people gathered not to make a
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- Name for themselves but to obey jesus,
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- When people gathered not to just be productive, but to wait
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- For the holy spirit.
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- And when the holy spirit breathed on the 120, in the
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- Upper room, there was the first church.
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- And i think it's a beautiful reminder how church was not
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- Meant to be this empire building productivity machine.
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- We're not just meant to be some do gooders that come together
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- Every sunday to pat each other on the back of how good we've
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- Been, but it's meant to be a body gathered by the presence
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- Of god.
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- Wow. you know, and i shared a little bit of my story last
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- Time about how really what drew me to the church was just how
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- The gathering was honoring, worshiping, and experiencing
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- The presence of god.
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- And i mean, i'll never forget those first few worship
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- Services that i've been a part
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- Of thinking, whoa, this is interesting.
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- Like we keep saying the word blood.
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- We people are raising their hands.
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- Uh, there are people crying, you know, and but i think what
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- Kept drawing me in and what really just marked me was just
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- How i felt like there's there's a presence here.
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- Wow. you know, and this presence is not of this world.
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- And this presence is kind and loving and seems to linger with
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- Us even when we mess up.
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- You know, and so i want to talk about how as a church, really,
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- We can't take out the part where we're meant to be a
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- Gathering of people that are intimate with the presence of
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- God, but sometimes we forget that, right?
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- So, i don't know.
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- Let's unpack that. what do you guys think?
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- So you had mentioned earlier that you walked into church as
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- A new believer, and we're hearing a lot of words that
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- Might feel foreign.
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- I call it christianese, like it's another language that
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- You're just like, why is everyone saying these words?
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- And they all know each other? yeah.
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- So one of the images that i'm always mindful of when new
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- Believers come into the church is when we read scriptures like
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- Revelation, like, ah, the church is parallel to the
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- Bride of christ.
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- Now why, of all the images that could be used, of all the
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- Metaphors, of all the algorithms that could be used,
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- What parallels the relationship that jesus has with the church
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- Is that of marriage?
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- I know that might feel foreign.
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- It might feel a little weird, but why is that?
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- If you really parse it back, we're going to an old testament
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- Principle of covenant. yeah. that's good.
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- It is a commitment, and a covenant is a choice.
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- So when we are paralleled as the bride of christ, it's
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- Because we're choosing to be in covenant with god.
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- So i had said in yesterday's program, this challenge that i
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- Heard another pastor say, give god a year.
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- I want to kind of add to that and add to the complexity, the
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- Layers, the nuances of being
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- The bride of christ and giving god yourself.
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- We had mentioned that
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- It is a choice that we had this invitation.
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- Both you and i had this invitation to choose jesus.
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- So in giving a year to god, what does that look like, in
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- Choosing to be in covenant with god?
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- It's not going to church for 60 minutes on a sunday.
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- It's not listening to a
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- Christian podcast or doing a devotional.
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- It is absolute surrender and submission daily to what
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- Jesus calls us to.
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- So in what we eat and what we think and what we say, and
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- Where we go and what we touch and what we say, are we
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- Submitting that to a relationship with the lord?
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- And the reason why there's this parallel of like bride and
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- Groom is i'm choosing to love you.
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- I'm choosing to trust you. i'm choosing to submit to you.
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- You need to know that god desires an intimate
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- Relationship with you.
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- It's not based on your performance.
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- It's not based on following all the rules.
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- It's not based on being good enough.
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- It's the fact that god loves you so much that he did
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- Everything to pursue you, to have relationship with you.
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- And there's freedom in that because most of us feel like we
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- Have to be something for god.
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- And i think when we actually have true intimacy with jesus,
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- We recognize,
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- Like, i'm enough and he's enough.
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- And just settling into that keeps us from striving, keeps
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- Us from working hard to accomplish.
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- It just helps us rest in the fact that we are loved by god.
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- And when you truly know how loved you are by god, you begin
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- To live your life in a way that reflects that.
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- So with this understanding of us choosing the lord, us being
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- The bride of christ-- i know feels weird to say. somebody out
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- There is like, that's weird.
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- It might sound a little weird, but now with the context of
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- Covenant, how does that change our relationship, our
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- Perspective with the church?
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- And i love that thinking about the covenant, because i've
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- Always heard it
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- Compared to a contract, a contract is something that can
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- Be broken, but a covenant is something that is forever.
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- So when you look at it from the perspective of the groom, it's
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- The groom that's pursuing the forever covenant with you.
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- It's the groom that's pursuing the bride, that's desiring the
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- Bride, that's saying, i want all of you for me.
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- And it's such a beautiful picture when you think of
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- Yourself as the bride that's being pursued and thinking,
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- There's absolutely nothing i
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- Could do that would break this covenant.
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- There's absolutely nothing i could do to fall out of favor
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- With the one who pursues me and loves me.
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- There's absolutely nothing i could do where i would lose
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- Favor with him, and i--
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- So it is, to some people, maybe christianese or weird to say
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- Bridegroom and and the bride of christ.
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- And what does that mean?
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- But when you talk about metaphors, there could have
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- Been the metaphor of, of it being a military commander and
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- A soldier, and he's just all he wants from you is your hard
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- Work, and all he wants from you is to obey and to get in line
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- And all he wants from you.
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- And yet he didn't choose a metaphor like that.
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- He chose the metaphor of bride and groom.
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- The groom who is so enamored with you he is saying, i want
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- You forever, i want you.
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- And so it is our privilege and honor to be chosen by him.
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- So then, of course, we want to develop an intimate
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- Relationship with him.
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- And what that means, intimate relationship,
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- Okay, is that that's a weird thing to say.
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- Is that imagery weird? no, it just means that my heart
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- Is fully connected to his heart.
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- And i want, i want to love the things he loves.
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- I want to do the things he asks because i'm connected forever
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- In my heart to him.
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- When i think about being pursued by jesus, i think about
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- How some of us might have been running from god for a long
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- Time, and we are invited to surrender our running shoes,
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- Because while we've been running from god, he's been
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- Running after us and before we chose god, he chose us.
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- And so just know that even though we have tried to hide
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- From god, run from god, he's been running after us.
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- He pursues us and he won't stop chasing after us.
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- He loves us and he wants to be
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- In a close relationship with us.
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- I love that because my, my
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- Husband and i have been married
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- It'll be 24 years at the end of, um--
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- Woo!
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- And, um, and i just think we've known each other for
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- Longer than that.
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- We dated for four years before we got married.
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- And so, like, more, more than
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- Half of our life, we've been together.
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- But there's just something beautiful about a relationship
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- That has that longevity.
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- And there's something about growing to just learn and to
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- Know one another more, which is, i think, what you're
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- Describing when you describe intimacy. it's like, i know the
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- Deepest parts of kerry's heart and he knows mine.
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- And we know that because we've spent time connecting on those
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- Things and we've spent time talking about those things.
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- And so i can finish his sentences and he can finish
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- Mine because there's that connection and that
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- Relationship there.
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- So when you talk about the bride of christ, i'm
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- Immediately thinking about, yeah, like when you do think
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- About it as a marriage, it's such a beautiful picture of
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- Growing in relationship with jesus where you know him, you
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- Know what moves his heart.
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- You know what he loves, you know what pleases him.
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- And you don't want to do things that are not pleasing
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- To him, like you,
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- You love, and you honor that relationship and simultaneously
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- Like find peace and identity and knowing that he loves you
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- In the same way and is pursuing you in the same way.
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- So that's when i hear bride of christ,
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- That's the beauty that i think of in that the the picture of,
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- Wow, like there's a closeness
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- That's available for each of us.
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- I love that picture of god pursuing us.
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- I think about when i started dating my now husband, guy,
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- I was not the perfect girlfriend.
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- I remember when he first told me he loved me.
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- Month three. okay.
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- Took me out to a nice restaurant.
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- I know he saved up for a long time to take me out to it.
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- Put his arm around me and said, i'm in love with you.
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- And i looked at him and i said, thank you.
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- Yeah, i was not the perfect girlfriend.
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- I needed time to process.
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- Yeah. that's good.
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- I had to call my girlfriends, text my girlfriends like,
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- Are we in love?
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- Um, i wasn't the perfect girlfriend. when we got engaged,
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- I wasn't the perfect fiance.
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- I had, like, learned how to now, you know, change my
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- Schedule and my work life.
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- Now i'm planning a wedding.
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- Um, and i didn't do it perfectly.
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- Like i remember, i set aside
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- One work week to plan my wedding.
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- No you didn't.
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- That was the time i allotted.
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- I was like, from this day to this day, this is what i'm
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- Going to plan it all.
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- And that was when i did it.
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- I learned later that other people spent, like, months in
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- Time, and i wasn't perfect--
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- Yeah. that's true.
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- You're like--
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- You're like, actually, you saved yourself.
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- This was i was like, oh, this is how i'll be efficient.
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- To me, it was like, wise.
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- And then i remember when we got
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- Married, it wasn't the perfect bride.
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- There were just things i didn't know.
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- Like i didn't even know i was
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- Supposed to take the next week off.
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- I didn't know. my wedding dress i got at a thrift store.
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- Well, first of all, praise god, $90.
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- That's baller on a budget.
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- Like in another state, when i was speaking at a church on my
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- Way there, i was early and i stopped at a thrift store and
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- Bought this dress.
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- I like, had like a handful of
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- Flowers i bought from down the street.
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- Like, there was so many things
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- That made me not the perfect bride.
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- And yet i was the love of his life.
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- And when i got married, a guy, i was not the perfect wife, but
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- I was already a wife. that's so good.
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- And i think the term bride changed for me because i
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- Realized, like i said yes to you and you said yes to me.
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- And now it's not about me trying to be the perfect wife.
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- I already am his wife. good.
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- And now it's me learning how to be more of who i really am,
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- How to be the best version of myself for him.
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- But i don't have to earn it.
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- I don't have to try to achieve it.
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- I already said yes.
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- So that's my man and i'm his woman.
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- I am the love of his life, and he's been pursuing me and
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- Pursuing me with my thrift store wedding dress.
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- Yeah. and me only having three
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- Days off work after the wedding.
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- He knew that i came with all of this texture and messiness, but
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- I was the love of his life.
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- I think that's something that's important for us to know, when
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- You put your faith in jesus, jesus's blood covers you.
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- You are a child of god, and now you don't have to do anything
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- To earn it or achieve it.
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- Now you just have to become who you already are.
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- You are already a child of god.
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- So now you are invited into an intimate relationship where you
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- Get to know each other and love each other and talk about the
- 00:12:44.954 --> 00:12:47.957
- Hard things and the holy things and the not so pretty things.
- 00:12:47.957 --> 00:12:51.126
- And now this is a deep and real friendship with all of
- 00:12:51.126 --> 00:12:54.697
- Its layers and textures. it's not this to do list.
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- It's not this thing you earn, it's falling in love.
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- Have you fallen in love with jesus and allowed him to love
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- You in the way that he wants to love you?
- 00:13:04.473 --> 00:13:06.275
- What a beautiful picture.
- 00:13:06.275 --> 00:13:08.444
- It's easy to feel far from god and to feel like he's not--
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- You hear these words, like he's pursuing you, and it maybe
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- Doesn't feel that way.
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- You feel distant from him.
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- I want to read to you.
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- Isaiah 62:5 says, as the bridegroom rejoices over the
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- Bride, so shall your god rejoice over you.
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- The bridegroom doesn't just tolerate the bride.
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- That's nowhere in scripture.
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- The bridegroom is always pursuing, divinely loving.
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- It's almost like a romance, if you will.
- 00:13:37.840 --> 00:13:39.909
- Like what you would do to win over someone,
- 00:13:39.909 --> 00:13:44.013
- That is how much he pursues you.
- 00:13:44.013 --> 00:13:45.681
- So let me say this,
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- It's a real feeling that you might be distant from god,
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- But the truth is, god is never distant from you.
- 00:13:50.486 --> 00:13:53.489
- So if you're feeling distant, i would maybe say, take a moment,
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- Just step aside, maybe find a
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- Quiet room and just say these words,
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- God, i feel distant from you. i don't want to.
- 00:14:00.863 --> 00:14:04.533
- So will you help me?
- 00:14:04.533 --> 00:14:05.801
- Because i know if you get into the word, if you put on some
- 00:14:05.801 --> 00:14:07.903
- Worship music, if you just settle your heart and just sit,
- 00:14:07.903 --> 00:14:11.006
- Sit with him, i know you will begin to feel his rush of love
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- Over you because he is a father who loves you.
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- He is pursuing you.
- 00:14:18.547 --> 00:14:20.549
- And so part of the feeling distant would be getting really
- 00:14:20.549 --> 00:14:24.753
- Honest with what have you done
- 00:14:24.753 --> 00:14:27.022
- In any way to distant your heart?
- 00:14:27.022 --> 00:14:29.825
- Is there a feeling that god
- 00:14:29.825 --> 00:14:31.393
- Hasn't shown up for you in some way?
- 00:14:31.393 --> 00:14:33.095
- Is there a feeling of resentment that something
- 00:14:33.095 --> 00:14:34.663
- Didn't go your way?
- 00:14:34.663 --> 00:14:35.831
- Is there something you're holding back your love and
- 00:14:35.831 --> 00:14:39.134
- Affection toward him?
- 00:14:39.134 --> 00:14:40.636
- And if you can repent for that, maybe say, god, i have.
- 00:14:40.636 --> 00:14:43.472
- I do feel like i've been frustrated at this thing.
- 00:14:43.472 --> 00:14:46.408
- I believe it'd just be like, if you're in a relationship with
- 00:14:46.408 --> 00:14:48.911
- Someone and you have that honest conversation, you're
- 00:14:48.911 --> 00:14:50.946
- Going to feel this intimacy that you maybe haven't felt
- 00:14:50.946 --> 00:14:54.049
- In a long time.
- 00:14:54.049 --> 00:14:55.484
- So just just understand that this relationship with god is
- 00:14:55.484 --> 00:14:58.687
- Always growing.
- 00:14:58.687 --> 00:14:59.855
- Always. you're always learning, so don't give up on it.
- 00:14:59.855 --> 00:15:03.425
- Keep pressing in because he's there and he loves you and
- 00:15:03.425 --> 00:15:06.462
- He's pursuing you.
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- God created us to be in community and we want you
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- To join ours. that's right.
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- So follow us on social media and join our conversation.
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- 00:15:24.913 --> 00:15:27.149
- Revelation 19:7 says, let us rejoice and be glad and give
- 00:15:27.861 --> 00:15:33.267
- Him glory, for the wedding of the lamb has come and his bride
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- Has made herself ready.
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- We've talked a lot today about the bride and the groom, and
- 00:15:39.206 --> 00:15:42.543
- That being the body of christ
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- And christ coming for his bride.
- 00:15:44.244 --> 00:15:46.513
- And whenever i read this, and i think about the wedding feast
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- Of the lamb and the bride has made herself ready, it really
- 00:15:49.816 --> 00:15:53.453
- Makes me reflect on what does it mean to make myself ready?
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- Because i know he's coming for his bride and i want to be
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- Someone who is ready.
- 00:16:01.228 --> 00:16:03.197
- So when we talk about that, i want to encourage you with that,
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- How you could prepare for that.
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- I want to say find yourself serving in a church, find
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- Yourself loving your family.
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- Find yourself easily forgiving and loving unconditionally.
- 00:16:15.676 --> 00:16:20.214
- I mean, there's a checklist of things i could give you, but i
- 00:16:20.214 --> 00:16:22.849
- Know that whenever jesus set out for mankind to be
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- Reconciled with him, the things that were on his heart were to
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- Love unconditionally, forgive always.
- 00:16:31.258 --> 00:16:34.127
- I mean, he hung on that cross for your sin.
- 00:16:34.127 --> 00:16:37.030
- So he wants you to live in freedom.
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- No shame in your life.
- 00:16:39.499 --> 00:16:41.235
- So these are all ways that we can prepare, believing that
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- Jesus is coming for us. it's coming for a pure bride.
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- Set your heart on it. get ready for eternity.
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- But do the work here while you can.
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- There was once when i had a dream, and it was during my
- 00:16:58.118 --> 00:17:01.388
- Youth pastor years, i think.
- 00:17:01.388 --> 00:17:03.357
- And i mean, i was just so busy.
- 00:17:03.357 --> 00:17:05.525
- And i mean, we were throwing a revivals, retreats, you know,
- 00:17:05.525 --> 00:17:10.163
- All kinds of fun stuff for kids.
- 00:17:10.163 --> 00:17:12.099
- And, i mean, i thought i was i was crushing it, you know,
- 00:17:12.099 --> 00:17:14.735
- Because i was getting it all done.
- 00:17:14.735 --> 00:17:16.903
- But i remember one dream that really arrested me for that
- 00:17:16.903 --> 00:17:20.240
- Season was i had a dream where it was actually a wedding and
- 00:17:20.240 --> 00:17:23.844
- It was my wedding.
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- And in my dream, i was like, you know, finding the dress.
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- I was, you know, and i was greeting the guests.
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- I was, you know, approving the food.
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- And we were already at the venue and it was a day of.
- 00:17:32.419 --> 00:17:35.789
- And then somebody asked me in
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- The parking lot, so where's the groom?
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- And i go,
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- Nobody-- nobody asked him to come.
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- Nobody-- and, you know, i mean,
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- Being like a type-a planner, i was like,
- 00:17:49.169 --> 00:17:51.638
- The stress, right?
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- Like, why did anyone call him? why didn't--
- 00:17:52.973 --> 00:17:55.309
- Why i didn't even think about it?
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- Right. and i woke up and i remember feeling this,
- 00:17:56.677 --> 00:17:59.079
- Like this, this holy fear in me.
- 00:17:59.079 --> 00:18:02.449
- You know, wondering, man, is
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- This what we sometimes do with church?
- 00:18:03.750 --> 00:18:07.120
- You know, where we're trying to throw a wedding without the
- 00:18:07.120 --> 00:18:11.725
- Groom, you know, ignoring his presence.
- 00:18:11.725 --> 00:18:14.494
- But you can't be a bride without the groom.
- 00:18:14.494 --> 00:18:16.930
- And i think that's really poignant how, you know, we were
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- Given that identity.
- 00:18:19.399 --> 00:18:20.901
- The church is given the identity of a bride.
- 00:18:20.901 --> 00:18:23.103
- But that cannot be possible without the groom, right?
- 00:18:23.103 --> 00:18:27.507
- But sometimes i think we we get so caught up in being the bride
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- In the sense of like, all the, you know, the festivities of
- 00:18:32.312 --> 00:18:35.682
- What it what it takes to be one, right?
- 00:18:35.682 --> 00:18:37.684
- All the preparations, all the program building, all the busy
- 00:18:37.684 --> 00:18:40.520
- Schedules, you know, and sometimes we get really caught
- 00:18:40.520 --> 00:18:43.957
- Up and becoming really just busy, good people
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- As opposed to just lovers of god, you know, and
- 00:18:48.328 --> 00:18:53.500
- Acknowledging his presence.
- 00:18:53.500 --> 00:18:55.268
- And i think the beauty of a church gathering is that you
- 00:18:55.268 --> 00:18:59.639
- Could practice the presence of god together as a body.
- 00:18:59.639 --> 00:19:04.111
- And when you look in the book of acts, when you look in the
- 00:19:04.111 --> 00:19:07.381
- New testament, you see, i mean, when a gathering comes together
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- To pray, when a gathering comes together to worship, to really
- 00:19:12.386 --> 00:19:17.124
- Acknowledge the holy spirit, the region shakes, you know?
- 00:19:17.124 --> 00:19:21.261
- Like the the environment around them cannot remain the same.
- 00:19:21.261 --> 00:19:25.298
- Right? and i think we do a lot,
- 00:19:25.298 --> 00:19:27.467
- Right, to try to be impactful churches.
- 00:19:27.467 --> 00:19:30.237
- Right. we do a lot to try to do a lot of good things.
- 00:19:30.237 --> 00:19:34.040
- But i think when we forget the groom, it could-- i don't know.
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- There's a lot of implications to that.
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- Yeah. that's what moses said,
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- Right. we've been reflecting on this a lot lately within our
- 00:19:41.481 --> 00:19:44.518
- Church, just talking back to when moses was having
- 00:19:44.518 --> 00:19:47.788
- Conversation with god and he was like, god, don't send me
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- Unless your presence goes with me.
- 00:19:50.624 --> 00:19:52.125
- With me like, don't, don't, i don't want to go.
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- I don't want anything.
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- I don't want to do all the things.
- 00:19:55.162 --> 00:19:56.263
- I don't want to reach the promises
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- If your presence doesn't go with me.
- 00:19:58.064 --> 00:20:00.167
- And i think that's got to be what we constantly return to,
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- Because it's so easy to get caught up in the doing and the
- 00:20:02.869 --> 00:20:06.807
- Planning and the things. i mean,
- 00:20:06.807 --> 00:20:09.276
- For us as leaders in the church.
- 00:20:09.276 --> 00:20:11.778
- Like there's lots of things that need to be done, and
- 00:20:11.778 --> 00:20:15.148
- There's strategy involved and there's the planning that goes
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- Into it and the preparation and all of that.
- 00:20:17.818 --> 00:20:20.187
- But at the end of the day, if we don't all come with a hungry
- 00:20:20.187 --> 00:20:23.590
- Heart for the presence of god, what meaning does it even have?
- 00:20:23.590 --> 00:20:27.093
- I love that you took us on that journey, because i think that
- 00:20:27.093 --> 00:20:29.696
- His presence is what changes everything.
- 00:20:29.696 --> 00:20:32.833
- Because god's presence is always with you.
- 00:20:32.833 --> 00:20:35.836
- You could develop an intimacy with the presence of god by
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- Sitting with him.
- 00:20:39.840 --> 00:20:41.107
- Now, how you do that is, first you want to acknowledge him,
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- Just simply acknowledging him
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- Just as you would acknowledge someone that walks into a room.
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- As you build that acknowledgment,
- 00:20:50.317 --> 00:20:52.586
- You also start to build that awareness.
- 00:20:52.586 --> 00:20:55.188
- Then you start to become more aware of the fact that he is
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- With you, that he loves you,
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- That he is kind, that he is near.
- 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:02.496
- And so practice acknowledging him.
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- When you are driving,
- 00:21:04.331 --> 00:21:05.532
- Practice. practice acknowledging him when you're
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- Doing your devotional, when you are taking care of your
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- Children and build that awareness that god is truly
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- With you.
- 00:21:14.541 --> 00:21:15.842
- And even if you cannot go find holy ground, you are carrying
- 00:21:15.842 --> 00:21:19.613
- Holy ground wherever you are because of the holy spirit.
- 00:21:19.613 --> 00:21:23.650
- We don't want to be too busy doing the jesus thing that we
- 00:21:23.650 --> 00:21:26.920
- Miss jesus himself.
- 00:21:26.920 --> 00:21:28.788
- Yes, and i think that's easy to do because it can feel noble.
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- It can feel like obedience.
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- Yes.
- 00:21:34.728 --> 00:21:35.762
- It can feel like you're honoring god, but you're
- 00:21:35.762 --> 00:21:38.565
- Missing him, the person.
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- And i'm weary of that.
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- I'm weary of that of church leaders, myself included, of
- 00:21:41.835 --> 00:21:45.539
- How easy that can be.
- 00:21:45.539 --> 00:21:46.573
- And sometimes doing it without even noticing.
- 00:21:46.573 --> 00:21:48.375
- Like i'm obeying god more than i'm spending time with god.
- 00:21:48.375 --> 00:21:51.378
- And you know, a big thing we want to do as christ followers
- 00:21:51.378 --> 00:21:54.948
- Is reach other people, reach
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- The lost, see souls saved, disciples made.
- 00:21:56.750 --> 00:21:58.685
- We want to reach a lot of people, and that's a goal in
- 00:21:58.685 --> 00:22:01.655
- Our lives and in our churches.
- 00:22:01.655 --> 00:22:02.956
- But i, i strongly feel in my own life, like i feel one
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- Reason why so many people outside the church are far from
- 00:22:07.260 --> 00:22:11.031
- God is because so many people inside the church are far from
- 00:22:11.031 --> 00:22:14.868
- God, and we need to have a real one-on-one relationship with
- 00:22:14.868 --> 00:22:18.705
- Jesus ourselves.
- 00:22:18.705 --> 00:22:20.540
- We need to spend time with jesus ourselves.
- 00:22:20.540 --> 00:22:23.043
- We need to surrender our sins to jesus ourselves and know
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- What he is like for real.
- 00:22:26.880 --> 00:22:29.282
- And then we can show a watching world what he is like.
- 00:22:29.282 --> 00:22:33.553
- But we don't want to be people that are just really good at
- 00:22:33.553 --> 00:22:35.355
- Talking about jesus, but not good at sitting with jesus.
- 00:22:35.355 --> 00:22:39.192
- So that's something that's on the forefront of my mind a lot.
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- As a leader, as a pastor,
- 00:22:42.429 --> 00:22:44.531
- Lord, help me always make sure that this is on the forefront
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- Of my mind, that i know you first before i'm trying to make
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- You known, right?
- 00:22:52.205 --> 00:22:53.206
- It's so good that you're saying this.
- 00:22:53.206 --> 00:22:54.708
- I mean, like, i was even going to ask, you know, if somebody's
- 00:22:54.708 --> 00:22:57.410
- Watching and they're saying, give me practicals of what does
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- It look like when you say intimacy with god?
- 00:23:00.313 --> 00:23:02.649
- How do i cultivate an intimate relationship?
- 00:23:02.649 --> 00:23:04.951
- And my husband and i are working with young adults
- 00:23:04.951 --> 00:23:06.686
- At our church.
- 00:23:06.686 --> 00:23:07.954
- And it's so interesting because i do, you know, a bible in a
- 00:23:07.954 --> 00:23:11.958
- Year reading plan and i love it.
- 00:23:11.958 --> 00:23:14.794
- It's awesome.
- 00:23:14.794 --> 00:23:16.062
- But the lord convicted me that it became a little bit of a
- 00:23:16.062 --> 00:23:19.132
- Check off list for me, because i have to get through that
- 00:23:19.132 --> 00:23:21.601
- Day's reading.
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- And so and it's a lot because it's usually a psalm or a
- 00:23:22.836 --> 00:23:24.704
- Proverb, and it's an old and a new testament.
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- And so it's a lot.
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- And so before i know it, and that's taken 20 minutes and
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- Then i've got things to pray for or whatever.
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- It's like i'm on to the next thing.
- 00:23:33.713 --> 00:23:35.248
- And the lord was like, i've missed just sitting with you.
- 00:23:35.248 --> 00:23:39.519
- I've missed just you and i having conversation that hasn't
- 00:23:39.519 --> 00:23:46.192
- Been about getting through.
- 00:23:46.192 --> 00:23:48.161
- So then i'm with the young adults at our church, and we
- 00:23:48.161 --> 00:23:51.364
- Were going through a bible study, and one of the girls
- 00:23:51.364 --> 00:23:54.000
- Said, she just got so stuck on this one verse.
- 00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:57.570
- So we just stayed on that verse and she said, you know, it's
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- Kind of refreshing that-- i mean, she's 22.
- 00:24:02.776 --> 00:24:06.646
- It's refreshing that we're spending this entire time
- 00:24:06.646 --> 00:24:09.315
- Together just going over this one verse.
- 00:24:09.315 --> 00:24:12.152
- We're so used to kind of just throwing the scriptures and
- 00:24:12.152 --> 00:24:14.754
- Keeping it going and digesting it, and it's like, okay, how
- 00:24:14.754 --> 00:24:18.825
- Are we in our intimacy with god?
- 00:24:18.825 --> 00:24:21.261
- Are we cultivating that by sitting in his presence?
- 00:24:21.261 --> 00:24:24.431
- We don't like to sit still for long.
- 00:24:24.431 --> 00:24:26.066
- We're a busy people. we've got things to do.
- 00:24:26.066 --> 00:24:27.767
- We've got our check off list.
- 00:24:27.767 --> 00:24:29.035
- Okay, but what if it looked like finding one scripture and
- 00:24:29.035 --> 00:24:32.439
- Asking the holy spirit, what do you say about that scripture to
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- My life right now?
- 00:24:36.509 --> 00:24:38.344
- What do you say? is there something applicable?
- 00:24:38.344 --> 00:24:41.081
- I can-- from this,
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- Do i walk out of here and do something with this?
- 00:24:42.348 --> 00:24:45.652
- And then you go into the school system or into the grocery
- 00:24:45.652 --> 00:24:48.922
- Store or to the coffee shop.
- 00:24:48.922 --> 00:24:50.356
- And that verse comes back to mind.
- 00:24:50.356 --> 00:24:53.093
- And he says, see that girl over there?
- 00:24:53.093 --> 00:24:55.995
- She's hurting.
- 00:24:55.995 --> 00:24:57.097
- Why don't you go encourage her with the scripture
- 00:24:57.097 --> 00:24:58.565
- We talked about today?
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- These are the things, the practical ways that you will
- 00:24:59.766 --> 00:25:02.736
- Begin feeling intimate with him
- 00:25:02.736 --> 00:25:03.937
- Because you feel partnered with him.
- 00:25:03.937 --> 00:25:06.473
- You're walking it out with him day by day.
- 00:25:06.473 --> 00:25:09.476
- You're not just, okay, i got all my scripture in today, and
- 00:25:09.476 --> 00:25:12.045
- Now i'm going--
- 00:25:12.045 --> 00:25:13.079
- It's actually becoming a part of who you are.
- 00:25:13.079 --> 00:25:15.849
- You're listening, you're learning, you're digesting, and
- 00:25:15.849 --> 00:25:18.518
- You're walking it out. then you feel close to him.
- 00:25:18.518 --> 00:25:21.254
- You've experienced something with him, and you've seen the
- 00:25:21.254 --> 00:25:23.523
- Power of god move through you into someone else's life.
- 00:25:23.523 --> 00:25:26.593
- And when you do that, and you start seeing the light come on
- 00:25:26.593 --> 00:25:29.262
- In their life because of something that you shared,
- 00:25:29.262 --> 00:25:32.499
- Now you have an experience with the lord and you're like,
- 00:25:32.499 --> 00:25:34.501
- That's a high. i want that again.
- 00:25:34.501 --> 00:25:36.603
- I want that again. i want to feel that again.
- 00:25:36.603 --> 00:25:38.705
- And you're drawn back to the word.
- 00:25:38.705 --> 00:25:40.073
- I just love those practical ideas because i've been a
- 00:25:40.073 --> 00:25:42.776
- Believer for a long time, and i still am convicted by the holy
- 00:25:42.776 --> 00:25:47.247
- Spirit of like, i'm not a to do list, blynda.
- 00:25:47.247 --> 00:25:50.316
- I'm not just a checkoff.
- 00:25:50.316 --> 00:25:52.519
- You know, i think one of the most beautiful things we can do
- 00:25:52.519 --> 00:25:54.721
- As believers is to slow down the pace of our busy lives and
- 00:25:54.721 --> 00:25:59.392
- Learn what it looks like to just sit with god.
- 00:25:59.392 --> 00:26:02.662
- A lot of us have a hard time sitting in silence.
- 00:26:02.662 --> 00:26:05.565
- A lot of times our thoughts run away with themselves.
- 00:26:05.565 --> 00:26:07.734
- But if we could just pause and set all of the thoughts, all of
- 00:26:07.734 --> 00:26:11.671
- The worries, all the concerns aside and say, god, what do you
- 00:26:11.671 --> 00:26:15.241
- Want to say to me today, here's what i know.
- 00:26:15.241 --> 00:26:18.244
- God wants to speak to you.
- 00:26:18.244 --> 00:26:20.113
- And the bible says that we are his kids, and his kids
- 00:26:20.113 --> 00:26:23.049
- Recognize his voice.
- 00:26:23.049 --> 00:26:24.684
- And when you slow down your life long enough to just sit
- 00:26:24.684 --> 00:26:28.655
- And to focus on what god wants to say to you, i promise he
- 00:26:28.655 --> 00:26:31.491
- Will meet you with peace.
- 00:26:31.491 --> 00:26:33.893
- He will meet you with strength.
- 00:26:33.893 --> 00:26:35.528
- He will meet you with love.
- 00:26:35.528 --> 00:26:37.430
- He will meet you and confirm your identity in him.
- 00:26:37.430 --> 00:26:39.699
- There's really something so beautiful about it.
- 00:26:39.699 --> 00:26:41.901
- So if you're struggling with the idea of sitting and being
- 00:26:41.901 --> 00:26:45.171
- Still with god, can i just encourage you put some
- 00:26:45.171 --> 00:26:47.807
- Worship music on, fix your attention on who he is.
- 00:26:47.807 --> 00:26:50.977
- If you're really struggling with your thoughts, start
- 00:26:50.977 --> 00:26:53.213
- Telling him how grateful you are for him.
- 00:26:53.213 --> 00:26:55.882
- Because once you get that attitude of gratitude in your
- 00:26:55.882 --> 00:26:58.451
- Spirit, i'm telling you it's going to shift the atmosphere
- 00:26:58.451 --> 00:27:00.753
- Of your heart and it's going to prepare you for what god wants
- 00:27:00.753 --> 00:27:03.756
- To lean in and speak to you today.
- 00:27:03.756 --> 00:27:06.559
- I love that you're challenging us to really think about this
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- Practically, because i think we could end at the point of being
- 00:27:09.028 --> 00:27:11.831
- Inspired, like, oh, i love jesus more.
- 00:27:11.831 --> 00:27:13.867
- But really thinking about, okay, how can we do this as
- 00:27:13.867 --> 00:27:16.502
- A church body?
- 00:27:16.502 --> 00:27:17.737
- You know, when god created humanity in genesis one, right?
- 00:27:17.737 --> 00:27:21.007
- When he breathed life into us, he also gave us a commission to
- 00:27:21.007 --> 00:27:24.043
- Go and be fruitful over all the earth.
- 00:27:24.043 --> 00:27:26.679
- Right? but the first thing adam and eve had to do was rest.
- 00:27:26.679 --> 00:27:30.850
- Right? rest with god.
- 00:27:30.850 --> 00:27:32.418
- And then when jesus was commissioning the christians in
- 00:27:32.418 --> 00:27:36.256
- Acts one, he said, now wait.
- 00:27:36.256 --> 00:27:40.226
- So it's for every commission to
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- Be productive and to bear fruit,
- 00:27:42.328 --> 00:27:45.164
- There was a call to rest with god, and then there was a call
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- To wait for god.
- 00:27:49.535 --> 00:27:51.871
- Right. and there was just something about encouraging us,
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- Commanding us even,
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- Don't run ahead. right.
- 00:27:57.343 --> 00:27:59.379
- The garden was meant to be fruitful from this communion
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- Between god and adam and eve.
- 00:28:04.651 --> 00:28:07.620
- The church was meant to be fruitful from a communion with
- 00:28:07.620 --> 00:28:12.292
- The holy spirit.
- 00:28:12.292 --> 00:28:13.860
- And now we live in an age where we're just trying to grow our
- 00:28:13.860 --> 00:28:16.930
- Gardens and our churches while being strangers with god.
- 00:28:16.930 --> 00:28:20.366
- Yeah. you know, i think there's just something about god
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- Asking us to,
- 00:28:23.603 --> 00:28:24.637
- To rest with him, to wait for him.
- 00:28:24.637 --> 00:28:28.775
- Are we a people that are willing to tarry in his
- 00:28:28.775 --> 00:28:32.111
- Presence? or do we feel uncomfortable with that moment
- 00:28:32.111 --> 00:28:36.149
- Of silence, that moment of stillness, you know, are we are
- 00:28:36.149 --> 00:28:39.252
- We people that are willing to rest in his presence?
- 00:28:39.252 --> 00:28:42.889
- Um, are there rhythms of that in our church that allows for
- 00:28:42.889 --> 00:28:46.893
- The productivity to come from intimacy?
- 00:28:46.893 --> 00:28:49.595
- Do you think some of that is in those moments where you're
- 00:28:49.595 --> 00:28:52.432
- Resting and you're still and
- 00:28:52.432 --> 00:28:54.033
- You're still communing with him,
- 00:28:54.033 --> 00:28:56.169
- People have a hard time understanding how to hear him,
- 00:28:56.169 --> 00:28:58.972
- And they feel like, i don't hear you.
- 00:28:58.972 --> 00:29:00.373
- I don't know if i feel you.
- 00:29:00.373 --> 00:29:01.841
- They're looking for a feeling.
- 00:29:01.841 --> 00:29:02.842
- They're looking for something.
- 00:29:02.842 --> 00:29:04.277
- And so because that's an uncomfortable thing and they're
- 00:29:04.277 --> 00:29:06.980
- Unsure, they move on past it.
- 00:29:06.980 --> 00:29:09.282
- They try to find something that feels more tangible?
- 00:29:09.282 --> 00:29:12.118
- It's uncomfortable.
- 00:29:12.118 --> 00:29:13.586
- It's when we have a discomfort with mystery.
- 00:29:13.586 --> 00:29:17.023
- I mean, mystery in god is a good thing.
- 00:29:17.023 --> 00:29:19.025
- That means he's god.
- 00:29:19.025 --> 00:29:20.293
- If he makes sense to us fully, that doesn't mean he's god.
- 00:29:20.293 --> 00:29:22.495
- You know, the fact that he's infinite should leave for some
- 00:29:22.495 --> 00:29:26.032
- Room for mystery, right?
- 00:29:26.032 --> 00:29:27.200
- But i think when we are uncomfortable with mystery and
- 00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:31.671
- We try to fill in the lines with our own narratives and we
- 00:29:31.671 --> 00:29:35.008
- Try to run with it,
- 00:29:35.008 --> 00:29:36.242
- That's kind of when we start,
- 00:29:36.242 --> 00:29:37.777
- Okay, turning off the lights, being like, forget it.
- 00:29:37.777 --> 00:29:40.013
- You know, like closing our bibles.
- 00:29:40.013 --> 00:29:41.647
- Like, forget it. he's not talking to me.
- 00:29:41.647 --> 00:29:43.016
- When we start to interpret silence as he's rejected me,
- 00:29:43.016 --> 00:29:47.186
- When we interpret waiting as, oh, he doesn't want to talk to
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- Me, he's dismissing me.
- 00:29:50.690 --> 00:29:52.058
- He's overlooking me.
- 00:29:52.058 --> 00:29:53.559
- I think the challenge is to
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- Interpret the mystery biblically.
- 00:29:56.429 --> 00:29:59.799
- Yeah. according to what the bible
- 00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:02.068
- Says god is, which is he's our father.
- 00:30:02.068 --> 00:30:05.038
- He's our bridegroom.
- 00:30:05.038 --> 00:30:06.506
- He loves us and is interpreting the mystery with truth and also
- 00:30:06.506 --> 00:30:11.544
- Having some comfort with the mystery.
- 00:30:11.544 --> 00:30:14.714
- There was a time when a mystery of unanswered prayer really
- 00:30:14.714 --> 00:30:18.518
- Drew me closer to the presence of god.
- 00:30:18.518 --> 00:30:20.653
- And this was when my second born, who is also my only son,
- 00:30:20.653 --> 00:30:25.158
- He was going through a lot of health complications for the
- 00:30:25.158 --> 00:30:28.361
- First three and a half to four years of his life.
- 00:30:28.361 --> 00:30:32.265
- I mean, he was allergic to everything.
- 00:30:32.265 --> 00:30:35.001
- Almost everything.
- 00:30:35.001 --> 00:30:36.369
- And i mean, it took two hours to put him to bed.
- 00:30:36.369 --> 00:30:39.839
- He was always wearing double socks on his hands and his
- 00:30:39.839 --> 00:30:42.475
- Feet, and i was crying out to
- 00:30:42.475 --> 00:30:44.977
- The lord for years for his healing.
- 00:30:44.977 --> 00:30:48.247
- And i remember one evening i was putting him down to bed,
- 00:30:48.247 --> 00:30:51.117
- And it was going into the second hour in the dark with
- 00:30:51.117 --> 00:30:54.720
- Him screaming and crying, because unless i'm holding him,
- 00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:57.890
- He would scratch himself to the point of having open wounds.
- 00:30:57.890 --> 00:31:01.761
- And i remember this anger started to come out of me
- 00:31:01.761 --> 00:31:06.132
- Because i just did not understand.
- 00:31:06.132 --> 00:31:07.767
- I was so fed up with unanswered prayers, and i remember
- 00:31:07.767 --> 00:31:12.505
- Something came out of me that i didn't expect to come out of
- 00:31:12.505 --> 00:31:14.807
- Me, which was this comment, this saying, i said, is this
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- Funny to you? to god.
- 00:31:18.811 --> 00:31:21.080
- I know, like eerie, right?
- 00:31:21.080 --> 00:31:22.315
- But then it was just this sadistic, dark, angry sentiment
- 00:31:22.315 --> 00:31:27.253
- That i was hiding beneath my religious proprieties.
- 00:31:27.253 --> 00:31:31.190
- I didn't know that it was within me.
- 00:31:31.190 --> 00:31:33.626
- But in that time of just staying in the dark with my
- 00:31:33.626 --> 00:31:36.629
- Crying child, it came out of me.
- 00:31:36.629 --> 00:31:38.931
- And can i tell you, i felt the
- 00:31:38.931 --> 00:31:41.200
- Presence of the lord fill that space.
- 00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:44.437
- And in my heart god showed me what grace really is.
- 00:31:44.437 --> 00:31:49.909
- He showed me his kindness in such a tangible way, where i
- 00:31:49.909 --> 00:31:54.380
- Wept through the night as i was holding my son, and eventually
- 00:31:54.380 --> 00:31:57.783
- My son fell asleep.
- 00:31:57.783 --> 00:31:59.252
- But i remember walking out of that room, having felt like i
- 00:31:59.252 --> 00:32:03.389
- Got to know him a little better.
- 00:32:03.389 --> 00:32:06.692
- Out of my four,
- 00:32:06.692 --> 00:32:08.261
- Um, i have one--
- 00:32:08.261 --> 00:32:09.929
- It's always the middle.
- 00:32:09.929 --> 00:32:11.297
- You know, it's one of my middles,
- 00:32:11.297 --> 00:32:13.900
- Like, i noticed she's been going through a phase where
- 00:32:13.900 --> 00:32:16.435
- She's not as eager to talk about jesus.
- 00:32:16.435 --> 00:32:19.038
- She's not as eager to open up her bible and i go, what's
- 00:32:19.038 --> 00:32:22.341
- Going on, baby girl?
- 00:32:22.341 --> 00:32:23.809
- And in our conversations,
- 00:32:23.809 --> 00:32:25.811
- What was revealed was she was sharing,
- 00:32:25.811 --> 00:32:28.281
- Well, god didn't answer this one prayer and it was really
- 00:32:28.281 --> 00:32:31.784
- Important to me, and i just don't know why.
- 00:32:31.784 --> 00:32:34.887
- I have to keep praying, you know?
- 00:32:34.887 --> 00:32:37.156
- And first of all, i'm thinking, oh my goodness, you're nine.
- 00:32:37.156 --> 00:32:40.092
- You know, how did we get so deep when you're nine, you know?
- 00:32:40.092 --> 00:32:43.262
- But i think it's just that's the perfect example.
- 00:32:43.262 --> 00:32:46.999
- And that's where it starts.
- 00:32:46.999 --> 00:32:48.100
- It's when we take these moments of mystery.
- 00:32:48.100 --> 00:32:51.070
- Like, why didn't he answer?
- 00:32:51.070 --> 00:32:52.471
- Yeah. why?
- 00:32:52.471 --> 00:32:53.172
- Why didn't he say something?
- 00:32:53.172 --> 00:32:54.874
- Why didn't he stop that from happening?
- 00:32:54.874 --> 00:32:56.709
- Why didn't he heal me?
- 00:32:56.709 --> 00:32:57.677
- Why didn't he? why, why, why?
- 00:32:57.677 --> 00:32:59.378
- You know, and we start to turn that around and place our own
- 00:32:59.378 --> 00:33:02.515
- Narrative on it, instead of bringing that to god and and
- 00:33:02.515 --> 00:33:06.252
- Seeing it as an invitation to go deeper into his presence.
- 00:33:06.252 --> 00:33:10.423
- The beauty of going deeper into god's presence,
- 00:33:10.423 --> 00:33:12.925
- We see this modeled in the psalms right with david, is
- 00:33:12.925 --> 00:33:15.795
- That he had all of those moments with god that like,
- 00:33:15.795 --> 00:33:18.631
- Lord, where were you in that situation?
- 00:33:18.631 --> 00:33:20.700
- And my enemies are all trying to kill me right now, and i
- 00:33:20.700 --> 00:33:23.536
- Want to drown in a bed of my own tears.
- 00:33:23.536 --> 00:33:25.238
- I mean, he had all the the roller coaster of emotions, but
- 00:33:25.238 --> 00:33:28.641
- Every psalm of lament is followed by a psalm of praise,
- 00:33:28.641 --> 00:33:31.611
- Because he just took a moment to acknowledge that there are a
- 00:33:31.611 --> 00:33:34.714
- Lot of why questions.
- 00:33:34.714 --> 00:33:35.982
- There are a lot of things that i don't understand and i may
- 00:33:35.982 --> 00:33:38.551
- Not have answers to.
- 00:33:38.551 --> 00:33:39.986
- But god, i will praise you, but god, you will save me.
- 00:33:39.986 --> 00:33:45.424
- But-- he just kept rehearsing his trust in god.
- 00:33:45.424 --> 00:33:48.261
- It wasn't that immediately the situations changed, and i think
- 00:33:48.261 --> 00:33:51.564
- That's a beautiful picture of intimacy with god
- 00:33:51.564 --> 00:33:54.000
- Is just being able to pour out your heart.
- 00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:57.203
- I even called my husband on the way over here this morning
- 00:33:57.203 --> 00:34:00.840
- Because y'all, i was driving too fast because of traffic and
- 00:34:00.840 --> 00:34:04.577
- I hit a curb and i was just like, so mad at myself and
- 00:34:04.577 --> 00:34:08.948
- Worried that i damaged our car.
- 00:34:08.948 --> 00:34:10.483
- And i just called him, and i was like, all the emotions
- 00:34:10.483 --> 00:34:12.685
- Were coming up.
- 00:34:12.685 --> 00:34:13.719
- I was so frustrated and he just listened, right.
- 00:34:13.719 --> 00:34:15.421
- I just think the lord's the same way.
- 00:34:15.421 --> 00:34:16.789
- He wants to hear our heart, like all the things we're
- 00:34:16.789 --> 00:34:19.425
- Processing, the emotions that are going on, and god loves it
- 00:34:19.425 --> 00:34:22.061
- When we come to him and we share our heart, even if it's
- 00:34:22.061 --> 00:34:24.397
- I'm angry with you, god, like you didn't answer the prayer
- 00:34:24.397 --> 00:34:26.966
- That i was asking and i don't understand why, because i had a
- 00:34:26.966 --> 00:34:30.236
- Really good plan.
- 00:34:30.236 --> 00:34:31.337
- I've said that a lot to the lord.
- 00:34:31.337 --> 00:34:32.538
- My plan was a good plan,
- 00:34:32.538 --> 00:34:33.506
- And god's like, yes, and mine are better.
- 00:34:33.506 --> 00:34:35.341
- Um, i had some suggestions. yeah, i had some really
- 00:34:35.341 --> 00:34:37.777
- Good suggestions there, but i think that god can handle that.
- 00:34:37.777 --> 00:34:40.680
- He can handle when we're angry.
- 00:34:40.680 --> 00:34:41.914
- He can handle handle when we're, when we're just depressed.
- 00:34:41.914 --> 00:34:45.151
- He can handle when we have all the questions.
- 00:34:45.151 --> 00:34:47.820
- Our job to be intimate with him is just to share it, like to
- 00:34:47.820 --> 00:34:51.891
- Pour it out and then to say, like david did, but god,
- 00:34:51.891 --> 00:34:55.828
- I will trust you.
- 00:34:55.828 --> 00:34:57.396
- But god, i know you have good plans for me.
- 00:34:57.396 --> 00:35:00.032
- And i think that that place of surrender and trust is truly
- 00:35:00.032 --> 00:35:03.736
- What what he's looking for.
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- And it's embracing the mystery because that's what
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- Trust is about, right?
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- I know when i reflect on my life, if there has been a
- 00:35:42.808 --> 00:35:45.511
- Season or a time where intimacy has been harder for me,
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- Truly, i could probably narrow it down to,
- 00:35:49.815 --> 00:35:52.351
- I don't think resentment and intimacy can coexist.
- 00:35:52.351 --> 00:35:55.988
- And so i know i've had times in my life i've had to process
- 00:35:55.988 --> 00:35:59.358
- Some resentment.
- 00:35:59.358 --> 00:36:00.626
- And it could have been maybe that humankind is what hurt me,
- 00:36:00.626 --> 00:36:03.729
- But i still feel like god could have stopped it or whatever.
- 00:36:03.729 --> 00:36:07.900
- Somehow there was some expectation i had of my life or
- 00:36:07.900 --> 00:36:12.471
- Of god that didn't happen.
- 00:36:12.471 --> 00:36:14.240
- And i grew a seed of resentment.
- 00:36:14.240 --> 00:36:16.375
- And when, when i was able to water that resentment and let
- 00:36:16.375 --> 00:36:19.779
- It grow in my life, there's a direct correlation to a lack of
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- Intimacy in my life.
- 00:36:23.249 --> 00:36:24.517
- And so i know i've had to come to a place where my cry and
- 00:36:24.517 --> 00:36:29.221
- Desire for intimacy has required me to look at the
- 00:36:29.221 --> 00:36:32.691
- Resentment i feel, and i've had to die to it.
- 00:36:32.691 --> 00:36:35.628
- There's an entitlement we actually live by.
- 00:36:35.628 --> 00:36:37.963
- We don't even understand it.
- 00:36:37.963 --> 00:36:39.432
- But there's an entitlement we feel to resentment.
- 00:36:39.432 --> 00:36:42.067
- We feel like, we feel like we have a right to it because
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- We've lived our life the way we think we should.
- 00:36:46.806 --> 00:36:48.941
- And something bad happened.
- 00:36:48.941 --> 00:36:50.643
- And i'm entitled to feel like that was unfair to me.
- 00:36:50.643 --> 00:36:53.679
- And that was-- and all of that has to go.
- 00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:56.916
- If intimacy is truly the desire
- 00:36:56.916 --> 00:36:59.218
- Of your heart, you you have to pick.
- 00:36:59.218 --> 00:37:01.854
- And it's hard to let go of that entitlement to resentment or
- 00:37:01.854 --> 00:37:07.259
- That entitlement to it should have gone a certain way, or it
- 00:37:07.259 --> 00:37:09.995
- Should be a certain way.
- 00:37:09.995 --> 00:37:11.263
- But the reward is you get to know the groom in a way where
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- Everything that was lost, he restores. every broken thing he
- 00:37:15.668 --> 00:37:20.773
- Fixes, and it's not even necessarily maybe that you get
- 00:37:20.773 --> 00:37:24.477
- That back, it's that you are more like him.
- 00:37:24.477 --> 00:37:27.546
- You are in the likeness of him because of the intimacy.
- 00:37:27.546 --> 00:37:30.783
- You're a reflection of him more.
- 00:37:30.783 --> 00:37:32.885
- And that's what we have to desire as believers, that we
- 00:37:32.885 --> 00:37:35.488
- Just look more like him.
- 00:37:35.488 --> 00:37:37.323
- And to do that, though, requires that we let go of some
- 00:37:37.323 --> 00:37:41.961
- Of the resentment that we maybe, if we're honest, we're
- 00:37:41.961 --> 00:37:44.897
- Holding against him.
- 00:37:44.897 --> 00:37:46.966
- A lot of times in church, we'll talk about intimacy with god.
- 00:37:46.966 --> 00:37:49.702
- That might feel like a foreign concept.
- 00:37:49.702 --> 00:37:51.337
- So i just want it to kind of demystify it a little bit and
- 00:37:51.337 --> 00:37:54.907
- Make it simple.
- 00:37:54.907 --> 00:37:56.141
- Intimacy with god is being known by god and knowing god.
- 00:37:56.141 --> 00:38:00.546
- The only way that you're going to get to know a friend or a
- 00:38:00.546 --> 00:38:03.282
- Partner or a spouse is to spend time with them.
- 00:38:03.282 --> 00:38:06.619
- So i don't want to make intimacy with god feel like
- 00:38:06.619 --> 00:38:09.021
- It's this faraway notion that's only reserved for uber
- 00:38:09.021 --> 00:38:11.457
- Spiritual people.
- 00:38:11.457 --> 00:38:12.758
- Intimacy with god is you getting to know him and him
- 00:38:12.758 --> 00:38:15.394
- Getting to know you. why is this important?
- 00:38:15.394 --> 00:38:17.863
- When we go through our daily challenges as we go through life
- 00:38:17.863 --> 00:38:20.766
- We don't want our feelings to dictate how we respond.
- 00:38:20.766 --> 00:38:23.903
- We want god to dictate how we live.
- 00:38:23.903 --> 00:38:26.305
- The only way that you're going to know who god is is to
- 00:38:26.305 --> 00:38:28.607
- Spend time with him, yes, through the act of prayer.
- 00:38:28.607 --> 00:38:31.143
- That's communication.
- 00:38:31.143 --> 00:38:32.244
- Prayer is simply conversing with god.
- 00:38:32.244 --> 00:38:34.313
- And how do you know god?
- 00:38:34.313 --> 00:38:35.548
- You read his word.
- 00:38:35.548 --> 00:38:36.949
- Take five, ten, 15, 20 minutes a day and read god's word.
- 00:38:36.949 --> 00:38:41.754
- Now that might feel overwhelming.
- 00:38:41.754 --> 00:38:43.322
- Start with a devotional.
- 00:38:43.322 --> 00:38:44.590
- Start with a verse, a chapter, a book, but start somewhere.
- 00:38:44.590 --> 00:38:48.060
- In my favorite, i feel like this is the secret sauce that
- 00:38:48.060 --> 00:38:50.529
- People don't talk enough about, is worship.
- 00:38:50.529 --> 00:38:53.632
- You get to know god by putting him in his right place.
- 00:38:53.632 --> 00:38:57.269
- The word worship is comprised of--
- 00:38:57.269 --> 00:38:59.004
- It's an old english word
- 00:38:59.004 --> 00:39:00.372
- Comprised of two words, worth, ship.
- 00:39:00.372 --> 00:39:02.841
- What is god worth to you?
- 00:39:02.841 --> 00:39:05.377
- Once you ascribe worth to god, then it's easy to worship him.
- 00:39:05.377 --> 00:39:09.114
- We put god in his right place and we are reminded of our
- 00:39:09.114 --> 00:39:12.651
- Right place.
- 00:39:12.651 --> 00:39:13.919
- Get into god's word.
- 00:39:13.919 --> 00:39:15.487
- Get into community.
- 00:39:15.487 --> 00:39:16.755
- Commune with him through the act of prayer, and worship him
- 00:39:16.755 --> 00:39:19.124
- Because if he is worth it, then worship.
- 00:39:19.124 --> 00:39:22.461
- Those things are going to develop a mighty fine
- 00:39:22.461 --> 00:39:24.396
- Relationship with you knowing who god is.
- 00:39:24.396 --> 00:39:27.866
- I think it's a beautiful posture shift.
- 00:39:27.866 --> 00:39:30.302
- What you're talking about trusting god, this intimacy
- 00:39:30.302 --> 00:39:33.606
- With god as you wrestle about god, wrestle with god versus
- 00:39:33.606 --> 00:39:37.876
- What you were talking about, about sometimes the need to be
- 00:39:37.876 --> 00:39:40.613
- Productive or sometimes like worshiping productivity, which
- 00:39:40.613 --> 00:39:43.882
- Can be so weird for some of us because some of us might think
- 00:39:43.882 --> 00:39:45.851
- The closer i get to god like, the more productive i'll be.
- 00:39:45.851 --> 00:39:48.887
- The closer i get to god, the
- 00:39:48.887 --> 00:39:50.122
- More i'll do and the more i'll build.
- 00:39:50.122 --> 00:39:52.257
- And i want us to be very careful that we don't allow the
- 00:39:52.257 --> 00:39:55.260
- Enemy to have any victory in our lives by taking our
- 00:39:55.260 --> 00:39:57.963
- Obedience, our desire to be obedient, something that's a
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- Good thing about us, and distorting it and making it the
- 00:40:01.266 --> 00:40:05.137
- Thing that we worship, right?
- 00:40:05.137 --> 00:40:06.839
- We don't want to worship the calling more than we worship
- 00:40:06.839 --> 00:40:09.041
- The one who calls us.
- 00:40:09.041 --> 00:40:10.676
- And i think we need to be very careful when it comes to being
- 00:40:10.676 --> 00:40:12.811
- Productive for god, because if we're not careful, we will be
- 00:40:12.811 --> 00:40:16.448
- Very good at being productive
- 00:40:16.448 --> 00:40:18.717
- While producing all the wrong things.
- 00:40:18.717 --> 00:40:21.186
- I'm not saying that you won't produce anything.
- 00:40:21.186 --> 00:40:22.988
- I'm saying you might build some really beautiful castles
- 00:40:22.988 --> 00:40:25.524
- Worshiping the wrong things.
- 00:40:25.524 --> 00:40:27.226
- You might build some really beautiful altars worshiping
- 00:40:27.226 --> 00:40:29.361
- The wrong things.
- 00:40:29.361 --> 00:40:30.529
- We need to be very careful at what we are worshiping.
- 00:40:30.529 --> 00:40:33.465
- We need to make sure that jesus is the center of our lives, the
- 00:40:33.465 --> 00:40:37.202
- Lord and leader of our lives, and make all of our obedience
- 00:40:37.202 --> 00:40:40.739
- And worship about him, not about our own gratification,
- 00:40:40.739 --> 00:40:45.477
- Our own ego, or trying to come off like we're serving jesus.
- 00:40:45.477 --> 00:40:49.114
- We want to really, actually,
- 00:40:49.114 --> 00:40:50.616
- For real, be serving jesus christ.
- 00:40:50.616 --> 00:40:53.085
- I think that we have overindexed coming out of the
- 00:40:53.085 --> 00:40:55.954
- 90s and early 2000,
- 00:40:55.954 --> 00:40:57.856
- We have-- i'm a cultural purveyor.
- 00:40:57.856 --> 00:40:59.591
- I just love taking the pieces and synthesizing them together,
- 00:40:59.591 --> 00:41:02.428
- And they tell the story of where culture and christianity
- 00:41:02.428 --> 00:41:04.596
- Truly are at.
- 00:41:04.596 --> 00:41:05.698
- I think that we did such a good job on indexing and
- 00:41:05.698 --> 00:41:08.267
- Overindexing on the word of god and spiritual disciplines,
- 00:41:08.267 --> 00:41:11.704
- We've lost the beauty of spiritual disciplines, but it's
- 00:41:11.704 --> 00:41:14.506
- Coming back in.
- 00:41:14.506 --> 00:41:15.674
- But what we're not telling people is it's not just do
- 00:41:15.674 --> 00:41:19.178
- Spiritual disciplines, because what's happening is people are
- 00:41:19.178 --> 00:41:22.181
- Like, i read my bible, i went to church, i gave 10%.
- 00:41:22.181 --> 00:41:25.551
- You know, i'm in a small group,
- 00:41:25.551 --> 00:41:26.819
- Community group, discipleship group.
- 00:41:26.819 --> 00:41:28.654
- I'm doing these things. right.
- 00:41:28.654 --> 00:41:30.222
- But if you take a look at their
- 00:41:30.222 --> 00:41:31.190
- Fruit, it's not matching the effort.
- 00:41:31.190 --> 00:41:34.093
- So for me, i'm like, i would rather have you spend time
- 00:41:34.093 --> 00:41:39.331
- Developing cultivating fruit rather than just ticking
- 00:41:39.331 --> 00:41:42.101
- Something off of your religious box.
- 00:41:42.101 --> 00:41:44.369
- Right? and right now what
- 00:41:44.369 --> 00:41:45.704
- I'm begging the flock that the lord has entrusted me to,
- 00:41:45.704 --> 00:41:48.173
- I am begging people,
- 00:41:48.173 --> 00:41:49.608
- If your fruit doesn't match the efforts of your disciplines,
- 00:41:49.608 --> 00:41:53.112
- Then we're overindexing on our disciplines.
- 00:41:53.112 --> 00:41:55.481
- I don't care if you're giving 10%.
- 00:41:55.481 --> 00:41:56.882
- If you're stingy and not generous at your core, then
- 00:41:56.882 --> 00:41:59.785
- It's actually contrary to
- 00:41:59.785 --> 00:42:01.286
- New testament biblical theology of giving.
- 00:42:01.286 --> 00:42:04.523
- So i feel like our disciplines have to match our fruit.
- 00:42:04.523 --> 00:42:07.226
- And if we're off in one of those then that's an indication,
- 00:42:07.226 --> 00:42:10.162
- It's a heart issue.
- 00:42:10.162 --> 00:42:11.630
- So intimacy with god should be
- 00:42:11.630 --> 00:42:13.332
- A reflection of following jesus.
- 00:42:13.332 --> 00:42:15.701
- And the fruit that comes out of my relationship with jesus
- 00:42:15.701 --> 00:42:19.304
- Should be that that is blessing other people.
- 00:42:19.304 --> 00:42:21.807
- Amen. the fruit of the spirit,
- 00:42:21.807 --> 00:42:23.909
- Love. joy. peace. patience. kindness.
- 00:42:23.909 --> 00:42:26.678
- Goodness. faithfulness. gentleness. self-control.
- 00:42:26.678 --> 00:42:28.147
- Okay. vacation bible school kid.
- 00:42:28.147 --> 00:42:29.715
- That's right.
- 00:42:29.715 --> 00:42:30.582
- I feel like i needed to say them all.
- 00:42:30.582 --> 00:42:31.884
- I feel like if those things are not evident in our life, then
- 00:42:31.884 --> 00:42:34.453
- It's a, it's a testament that
- 00:42:34.453 --> 00:42:35.821
- We're missing intimacy with god.
- 00:42:35.821 --> 00:42:37.790
- Because if we're actually close to god, we're becoming more
- 00:42:37.790 --> 00:42:40.359
- And more like him.
- 00:42:40.359 --> 00:42:41.994
- And that is the fruit of a spirit-led life.
- 00:42:41.994 --> 00:42:44.363
- And so i love that you pointed that out, because that's one
- 00:42:44.363 --> 00:42:47.199
- Way to evaluate, right,
- 00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:48.367
- Our lives is to go, okay, lord, how am i doing
- 00:42:48.367 --> 00:42:51.270
- In the love department?
- 00:42:51.270 --> 00:42:52.738
- Like, how am i doing in the joy department
- 00:42:52.738 --> 00:42:55.107
- And like just leaning in to go,
- 00:42:55.107 --> 00:42:57.242
- I want more of you, lord?
- 00:42:57.242 --> 00:42:58.944
- So that that can be a reflection of my life to
- 00:42:58.944 --> 00:43:00.779
- The people that experience me.
- 00:43:00.779 --> 00:43:02.781
- I want them to experience jesus through me.
- 00:43:02.781 --> 00:43:05.517
- I think knowing we're already loved, and god wants us to come
- 00:43:05.517 --> 00:43:09.621
- Into a space where he can love us and we can receive his love.
- 00:43:09.621 --> 00:43:13.425
- I think that's so important when we miss a day of
- 00:43:13.425 --> 00:43:16.428
- Talking to god,
- 00:43:16.428 --> 00:43:17.696
- Don't go into the next time with all this guilt and shame.
- 00:43:17.696 --> 00:43:20.065
- Go in love and grace that god
- 00:43:20.065 --> 00:43:22.267
- Already has for you and receive it.
- 00:43:22.267 --> 00:43:24.436
- That's the best thing you can do is embrace the love that god
- 00:43:24.436 --> 00:43:27.539
- Already has for you.
- 00:43:27.539 --> 00:43:29.675
- I mean, i think that's a beautiful reminder that these
- 00:43:29.675 --> 00:43:32.144
- Spiritual disciplines, it's not just a to do list, but it's
- 00:43:32.144 --> 00:43:35.347
- Just tools to behold the one.
- 00:43:35.347 --> 00:43:39.084
- And if there's no beholding, right, if there's no sense of
- 00:43:39.084 --> 00:43:43.455
- Awe or even a fear of god, right, that's growing because
- 00:43:43.455 --> 00:43:48.293
- Of those spiritual disciplines, then we're just doing stuff
- 00:43:48.293 --> 00:43:51.864
- Without the one.
- 00:43:51.864 --> 00:43:53.198
- Like we're we're kind of leaving him out of the picture.
- 00:43:53.198 --> 00:43:55.901
- You know, like when you look in acts, it says the church
- 00:43:55.901 --> 00:43:58.103
- Started to grow because of fear of god started to grow, you
- 00:43:58.103 --> 00:44:00.772
- Know, start to spread.
- 00:44:00.772 --> 00:44:02.040
- And i wonder, have we sometimes minimized our spiritual
- 00:44:02.040 --> 00:44:06.411
- Disciplines to just be like, i read it, i sang it, i wrote it,
- 00:44:06.411 --> 00:44:11.683
- I did it, instead of
- 00:44:11.683 --> 00:44:13.318
- I saw him and i heard him, and now i know him,
- 00:44:13.318 --> 00:44:18.156
- You know.
- 00:44:18.156 --> 00:44:19.391
- And it's when everything's overflowing from a knowing of
- 00:44:19.391 --> 00:44:22.794
- God, that's when true intimacy starts to happen, you know?
- 00:44:22.794 --> 00:44:26.832
- And i think sometimes we miss the fear of the lord with all
- 00:44:26.832 --> 00:44:31.169
- Of that, you know, like the ones that are explicitly called
- 00:44:31.169 --> 00:44:35.340
- Friends of god in the old testament,
- 00:44:35.340 --> 00:44:37.643
- Um, they also explicitly showed a fear of the lord.
- 00:44:37.643 --> 00:44:41.914
- There was a correlation between intimacy and a fear of the lord
- 00:44:41.914 --> 00:44:45.350
- And or an awe respect, a wonder, right?
- 00:44:45.350 --> 00:44:49.788
- A marveling, you know, and i wonder, when's the last time we
- 00:44:49.788 --> 00:44:53.091
- We chose to take the moment to marvel at the lord?
- 00:44:53.091 --> 00:44:57.195
- I like that you said it like that, because i do find in the
- 00:44:57.195 --> 00:45:00.032
- In the church world, too, people, when they hear fear of
- 00:45:00.032 --> 00:45:02.601
- God, the immediate response can
- 00:45:02.601 --> 00:45:04.670
- Often be, yeah, i'm afraid of him.
- 00:45:04.670 --> 00:45:06.204
- Like, right.
- 00:45:06.204 --> 00:45:07.506
- Yeah. like kind of get struck with lightning if i don't live
- 00:45:07.506 --> 00:45:09.207
- My life right.
- 00:45:09.207 --> 00:45:09.942
- And i just--
- 00:45:09.942 --> 00:45:11.376
- You put it into such great perspective.
- 00:45:11.376 --> 00:45:12.945
- But i wanted to repeat it for the listener.
- 00:45:12.945 --> 00:45:15.414
- Like the fear of god is not,
- 00:45:15.414 --> 00:45:17.416
- I'm afraid of what god's going to do to me, or i'm afraid that
- 00:45:17.416 --> 00:45:19.952
- I'm not going to be good enough because that's not it.
- 00:45:19.952 --> 00:45:22.788
- You guys said earlier already, you said i was already a bride,
- 00:45:22.788 --> 00:45:25.791
- And the bride of christ, like you are loved.
- 00:45:25.791 --> 00:45:27.693
- You are chosen.
- 00:45:27.693 --> 00:45:28.994
- Like there there doesn't need to be the fear of, oh my gosh,
- 00:45:28.994 --> 00:45:32.130
- Am i going to be good enough?
- 00:45:32.130 --> 00:45:33.765
- But no, the fear of god is an awe.
- 00:45:33.765 --> 00:45:35.901
- It's a wonder.
- 00:45:35.901 --> 00:45:37.202
- It's a the king of kings, the lord of lords, the creator of
- 00:45:37.202 --> 00:45:40.806
- The heaven and the earth, that he chose me.
- 00:45:40.806 --> 00:45:43.875
- He loves me.
- 00:45:43.875 --> 00:45:45.143
- And it's even goes beyond an awe and a wonder to a reverence
- 00:45:45.143 --> 00:45:49.081
- And a respect because god is holy,
- 00:45:49.081 --> 00:45:53.285
- And it's like my husband described it the other day as
- 00:45:53.285 --> 00:45:56.388
- His, uh, you know, his dad used to when he was really serious,
- 00:45:56.388 --> 00:45:59.491
- He would be like, kerry lee robinson!
- 00:45:59.491 --> 00:46:01.460
- You know, when your parent uses
- 00:46:01.460 --> 00:46:02.594
- All three names and you're like,
- 00:46:02.594 --> 00:46:04.162
- And you stand at attention and
- 00:46:04.162 --> 00:46:05.931
- And there's something about that.
- 00:46:05.931 --> 00:46:08.033
- Like, okay, i'm here because i respect the authority that
- 00:46:08.033 --> 00:46:10.936
- You're bringing into the situation because you love me
- 00:46:10.936 --> 00:46:13.572
- And you care about me, and you want to provide for me, and i
- 00:46:13.572 --> 00:46:16.241
- Know that about you.
- 00:46:16.241 --> 00:46:17.376
- And so i'm here bringing you my full attention.
- 00:46:17.376 --> 00:46:20.145
- There's a little bit of a respect that comes with the
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- Fear of god, too.
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- Like i'm giving you my full attention.
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- So i think that's a beautiful picture.
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- And hopefully that's a helpful explanation for someone.
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- I've heard it said that some can see the fear of god as i'm
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- Afraid of him.
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- I don't want to do anything against him, but that the
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- Better way to see it is i don't
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- Want to do anything without him.
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- Oh that's good.
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- And the fear that i would try to live any part of my life
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- Outside of a relationship with him, that i would think that i
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- Could even take a breath, much less schedule any part of my
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- Day without without really feeling him near me--
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- The nearness of god is for our good.
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- And i just--
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- I just think it's just a sweet thing to remember that the the
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- Pursuit was from him to us, not from us to him.
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- So good. that's good.
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- The pursuit was from him to us.
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- If you're in a season where you don't feel like you're close to
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- God, i'm going to ask you because it's going to be
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- One of two things.
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- You're either not close to god because you don't trust god, or
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- You're not close to god because you feel like he's departed.
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- He's not near you.
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- For both of those, i'm going to lovingly pastor you and tell
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- You what i tell our congregation at revere church,
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- What you put in is what you get out.
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- You can have an honest conversation with god.
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- Scripture refers to him as a heavenly father.
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- You can go to your abba.
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- You can go to your heavenly
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- Father and have honest conversations.
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- Let him know you feel far from me or i feel far from you,
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- But that admission of what you need is the very first step in
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- Cultivating an intimate relationship with god.
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- Because he wants to hear you
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- And i get it.
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- If you're feeling far from him or if he feels far removed,
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- Tell him that.
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- Bring your lament.
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- Bring your sorrow.
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- Bring your sadness.
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- He can handle it.
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- Then after that, i'm going to encourage you,
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- Don't run away from church.
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- Get plugged into church. oh, yeah, yeah, sure.
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- Bianca, you're saying that because you're a pastor.
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- No, i'm saying that because i love you.
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- If you're feeling far from god, be around god's people and
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- Allow god to speak to you, even among his people, because god
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- Can speak to you through his word, i firmly believe that's
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- The best way to hear from god.
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- But god could also speak to you through his people.
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- God feels far to you. be around his people.
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- Experience the presence of god in places that might
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- Just surprise you.
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- Ephesians 1:4 says, god chose us to be in a
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- Relationship with him, even before he laid out plans for
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- This world.
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- And i love that because so often we can think, okay, i put
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- My faith in jesus, and now i have to do all the plans and i
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- Do all the things and this verse says he chose to be
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- In a relationship with us first. before he laid out plans,
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- God's first plan for your life was to be in a relationship
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- With you.
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- God's first calling in your life was to be in
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- Relationship with you.
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- And then there's other plans.
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- But this is the first thing that you're called to do.
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- So it's not--
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- Sometimes we flip the order, we're like, okay, i'm going to
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- Do all these things, and then
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- I'm gonna try to make some time.
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- And so i just love this reminder of like, actually,
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- This is the order, come have a relationship with me.
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- And then i'm gonna take you on some plans.
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- That's a good reminder, i think, for all of us.
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- So for those that are watching and maybe feel like i want to
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- Be intimate with god, i just don't even know where to begin,
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- I'm just going to pray for
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- Those that are on this adventure.
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- And intimacy is simply spending
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- Time with someone that you love.
- 00:49:38.910 --> 00:49:41.313
- The beautiful thing about intimacy is that so many of us
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- Want to be known, want to be seen, and want to be loved.
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- And here's god with an open invitation, inviting not just
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- The holy or the select, but all of us.
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- And he's saying, i see you, i love you, i want you, and i
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- Want you to know me.
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- And so i'm going to pray a prayer of blessing for those
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- That are watching online and want to experience closeness
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- With god spirit living god, i pray that you invade hearts
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- And homes right now.
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- I pray that you, for those that are seeking you, that you
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- Reveal yourself to them, and there's a sense of being known
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- By you that woos them and draws them in, that they desire to
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- Desire you, that they want to want you, that they long to
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- Long after you.
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- I thank you, lord god, that you are going to hear the cry of
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- Their hearts.
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- Will you reveal yourself in supernatural and natural ways
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- Right now to everyone who seeks you
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- Because your word says, when we seek you, we will find you.
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- So you be the glory.
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- In jesus' name, amen. amen.
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