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Know Peace this Christmas - Episode 1129

December 25, 2025 | S7 E1129 | 52:34

Today, we celebrate God's greatest gift to us--Jesus! He is our Prince of Peace. He is our Joy. Amid tragedy, chaos, and grief, we can rejoice in a Savior who steps into our messy lives with supernatural peace, healing, and hope. | TBN Prayer Line: 714-731-1000

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Better Together | Know Peace this Christmas - Episode 1129 | December 25, 2025

Laurie crouch: jesus says, let not your heart be troubled.
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When we know the prince of peace, we receive a peace that
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Passes all understanding.
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Come on, let's talk about it.
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Dr. deedee freeman: i have three beautiful children, all grown,
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Thank god.
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I have no more little ones to raise.
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Now i just do the grandma thing.
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All of my kids raised right in the home with me and my husband,
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Learning the same foundational principles, having the same kind
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Of core values if you will.
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Learning the same things as far as the word is concerned because
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Even though i wasn't raised in a christian home, we made sure
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That my children would be raised in a christian home.
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And by the time i started having kids, my crazy was gone.
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Like no because i was a demonstration of what crazy
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Would happen to be as a wife being married.
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I mean i really, don't judge me, i'm sorry don't judge me.
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Jeannie munsey: we all have a few stories of our own.
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Dr. deedee: oh, we have a few stories, okay.
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But you know, i always wanted to make sure my private practices
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Was in alignment with my public performance as far as my kids
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Were concerned because my husband was in ministry and i
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Didn't want to turn them off away from the things of god
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Because of what they saw out there and what they saw at home.
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And so i'm thinking okay, we're good, we're raising our kids
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Good, they're all doing really good.
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And then my son, the pastor's son, mama's boy, mama's perfect
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Boy, decides that he wants to go against, do something totally
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Opposite of what we raised him in.
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And he got so off and so consumed and caught up with we
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Would always say maybe a wrong environment like he was with the
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Wrong people.
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Well, i learned later that my son was the wrong people.
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Like don't be around my son.
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You know how.
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Because, you know, christian parents could be very naive.
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You know, we think we just pray over them and we believe god and
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They will be the perfect ones ever.
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Well, okay, i would love to believe that too but i never
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Really was that naive but i knew that he happened to be the wrong
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Person to let your child be around.
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And so my son got into a situation when he was 16 driving
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In the car with-- he was driving his car and he violated our
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Rules, our bylaws if you will.
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Don't ever allow anyone to be in your car that you do not know.
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So he let someone in his car, they went to like a little fight
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Or whatever in the neighborhood.
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So the little guy in the back rolls down the window when
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They're leaving from this fight and shoots a gun off in
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The back.
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So of course, my son panics and he thinks, okay, this is, you
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Know, they're shooting at us.
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And the other two guys he had in his car said no this is him.
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So he makes them get out, he takes off but then he eventually
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Turned back around because where are you gonna go?
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Everyone knows you.
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Like you're mike freeman's son.
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You know, everyone at your school knows who your
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Parents are.
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So he goes back and he goes to the officer and he begins to
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Tell, well, they didn't care what happened that he
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Said happened.
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They locked my son up at 16 on charges for attempted murder.
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What do you do with that as a mother, who you think you have
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Raised your children in the fear and admonition of god?
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Going through that time was probably one of the most
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Difficult times in my life because i almost felt helpless
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In the natural.
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But then i had to realize that it wasn't about my strength nor
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By my might but by the spirit of god that dwells on the inside
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Of me.
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I had to begin to lean on the prince of peace.
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I understood that it was nothing that i could do in the natural.
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I had to begin to trust god, to pray, and to believe god for
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Better and had to believe that my son was telling the truth
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About his story.
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Well, thank god after spending a bunch of money, going through a
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Whole lot of attorney kind of stuff, the mother of the boy who
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They went to the house to, you know, fight or whatever, he
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Didn't even go to fight, he just went to be there in the crowd.
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She said that she saw the young guy in the back.
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So the person who was, you know, on the opposite side who could
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Have sent my son away was the one who spoke up and said,
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"yeah, i don't wanna charge him because i know it wasn't him."
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And i'm telling you, it's like, i had a revelation of what peace
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Happened to be at that particular time.
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Because even though i said, okay, god i trust you and you're
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My peace, it did not do away with how i felt.
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And a lot of times people think, you know, you gotta feel a
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Certain way or things have to be in alignment in order to
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Experience this peace.
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Peace is not the absence of conflict, right, but peace will
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Settle you even during the midst of turmoil where you can
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Really rest.
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Where that hebrews 4 says that we labor to enter into
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That rest.
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It was like i was really able to labor to enter into that rest
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Knowing that god was gonna give me the outcome that i was
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Believing for.
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Dr. deedee: let me encourage your hearts today.
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I know some of you may be dealing with some situations or
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Some turmoil may be happening in your life right now and you're
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Looking for this prince of peace.
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You want to experience this peace that passeth
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All understanding.
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I want to encourage you to start meditating and start thinking
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About the goodness of god.
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Because peace is not the absence of conflict.
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So regardless of what you are going through, you can
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Intentionally experience his peace.
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But it comes through a revelation of who he is and what
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He has done for you.
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So spend quality time in his word, knowing that he is there
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For you, the prince of peace.
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Dr. deedee: thank god, he went to court and all of the charges
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Were dropped.
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But can you imagine if i did not have that peace.
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How much wasted time i would have had worrying, stressed out,
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Bawling, crying or whatever over what?
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Nothing because when you look back and all of the charges were
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Dropped and somebody stands up for you, it's like we waste so
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Much time stressing over stuff that we don't have to
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Stress over.
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It's like, god, let me just give it to you, let me cast my care
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On you because you care for me.
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You're perfecting those things that concern me.
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So that was how i was able to really lean on that peace
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Knowing that, god, he had me.
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Jeannie: and it's a daily process, isn't it?
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There are some days peace really it dwells with you in a big
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Strong way.
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But i think the mother nature in us, you know, we try to fix
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Things and when you can't fix things and then god says to you,
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"i've got this.
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Will you just trust me with it?"
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Then some days you're good and then some days, you know, it
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Depends where you're at mentally.
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Dr. deedee: right, and spiritually.
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Jeannie: and spiritually.
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And just coming back to that, you are my prince of peace, you
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Are the peace.
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And just really digging into that and refusing to get outside
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Of that.
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Dr. deedee: yeah, absolutely.
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Because i'm telling you, in the beginning, i was like all over
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The place.
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Like this cannot be happening to me.
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Really like borderline mad.
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Like this cannot be happening but then you go back to realize
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It's like worrying isn't gonna change this, it's not gonna add
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To this.
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Like be anxious for nothing, right, but through prayer and
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Supplication let your request be made known unto god.
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And because i had a relationship with that word, i was able
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To shift.
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I didn't stay here.
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So i thank god for that and now when i do, i look back i'm like
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Oh wow, that would have been so much wasted time just focusing
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On what had happened.
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Laurie: so you could have put your peace at the end of that
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Court battle.
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Dr. deedee: in the very beginning i could have.
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Laurie: and you could have been crazy woman till he got
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Released, right?
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It's available for us now.
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Let's put it that way.
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It's available for us right now.
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That's the kind of stuff that keeps mama up
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At night and crazy.
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Dr. deedee: yeah, crazy woman, right?
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Laurie: i mean when you think about what could be worse,
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That's one of the worst scenarios
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That could possibly be.
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Dr. deedee: yes, and i have to end it even with this.
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Not so much end because i'm looking at my son now and full
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Circle looking at how far, you know, he went and to see where
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He is now in alignment with what god had predestined for his life
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From the very beginning.
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This boy is in ministry working and feels good, you know, about
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He got a family, doing beautiful.
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It's like we stress over so many different things.
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It's like we have to learn how to take our eyes and our focus
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Off of whatever we're going through and put it on what we
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Are going to.
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Laurie: knowing that peace is available for me now, why
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Wouldn't i want that?
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Why wouldn't i want the prince of peace to be able to walk
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Through something hard or to walk through
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Something difficult?
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To know that it's available for us, it's available for you, all
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You need to do is receive that prince of peace and be conscious
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Of saying, saying to jesus, you are my peace, you are my joy,
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You are everything that i need right now.
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And you know what i need more right now than anybody, than i
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Even know for myself.
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You know exactly how my heart needs fixing.
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You know how my heart needs consoling and comforting.
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You know everything about me.
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And so it is available and just to know that it's available,
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Reach out and take it, just say jesus, you are my peace and i'm
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Never letting that go.
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Dr. deedee: it's like, god, i'm headed towards your promises.
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I'm headed to, you know, to salvation, to the end of
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This pitcher.
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So i wanna use your peace now to walk me through it.
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I don't wanna stress out all the way to the end, right?
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And so it's pretty amazing, how do you guys like, you know, see
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Yourselves leaning on, you know, just a piece of god?
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I mean have you ever had any encounters or any experiences
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That's maybe not as, you know, hard as mine.
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Yes, you have?
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Okay.
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Jeannie: i think the one thing, yeah, that we've dealt with one
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Of our sons in something very similar to that, maybe even a
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Little more extreme.
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But the thing in all of it is that i remember the lord saying
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To me, "i love your children more than you ever could.
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Will you trust me with them?"
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And it became more about my confidence and my trust in god
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And my learning to take his peace.
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Because moms, you know, we worry about everything.
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And but these were pretty devastating circumstances.
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But it's like no, you know what, i have to trust it.
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And then watch over progress of many years.
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Our journey has been many years.
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To see god at work and all that it was like, oh, my word.
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Oh man, oh god you were there in the middle of all of that and i
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See you on this journey.
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And it's a journey for all of us.
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Some come to it a little quicker than others do, right?
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But others it's a longer journey but to see god in that process
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Of what he's doing and to relax with it that you don't have to
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Have it resolved.
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Because there's probably mothers and fathers today whether it's
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Children or family that are in difficult situations that
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Haven't come out of it.
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They're still believing god for it.
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And you have to continue to have hope and believe that god is
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For you.
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God is for your children, he's for your husband, for your wife,
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For your relatives.
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And in the end, it all comes out good.
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We have a picture of how we think it should come out.
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Dr. deedee: yes, and that's perfect picture he just didn't
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Fit in that picture.
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I'm like this is how you're supposed to do it, not
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Like this.
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Jeannie: and i'm sure there's things maybe not quite as
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Intense as that but that show you your faith.
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You know, it's like reading the word.
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Sometimes i read the word and god speaks to me.
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But sometimes, the word, it reads me and locates me where
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I'm at and i'm saying, "oh, jesus, thank you for showing
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That to me."
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And then i take another step where my faith is enlarged just
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A little bit more and i step into peace a little better and a
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Little easier.
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Kalley heiligenthal: so all throughout the christmas story,
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We see these people who are given a promise by the lord and
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These different journeys of walking out that promise unto
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Its fruition.
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I remember receiving a word when i was just this insecure little
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Kid who had given up singing, given up worship leading, and
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Somebody gave a word about leading worship and singing at a
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Scale that i was not, you know, prepared for.
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And i was brought on this journey with the lord of him
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Saying, "just focus on me.
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I'll bring these things to pass.
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You don't make any of them happen.
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You're not creating this.
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I'll do in you what i have planned for you."
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And the places that that has brought me to, the incredible
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Opportunities to see different parts of the world worship
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Jesus, that wasn't something that i created in and of myself,
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That was something that he put inside and he caused to grow.
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And it's so much better that way when he's the one who's the
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Author and the perfecter.
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Sheila walsh: christmas season can be nutty.
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In our house, it's very nutty.
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My husband is like the christmas elf.
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We have decorations on.
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I mean, the dog keeps moving, otherwise it's gonna
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Get decorated.
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But one of the things about christmas when it gets so crazy
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Is i really encourage you to find a few moments each day just
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To get quiet.
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Just to get quiet and get alone with the lord and remember what
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Immanuel means, god with us.
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You are not alone this christmas, the lord is
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Very close.
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Robyn: i have a boy who's special needs and it's been a
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Journey, he's 35 now.
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And our picture of what we think life's gonna be like and how
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It's gonna end up, my graham, he may not be "perfect" to other
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People until we're all in heaven, which of course he will
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Be, but peace is jesus.
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The verse that we're looking at here is prince of peace.
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And what i loved about deedee's story is that she had peace in
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It, now.
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In other words, it's sort of like this other idea when am i
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Gonna be happy?
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Laurie pointed it out she wasn't gonna be peaceful when she got
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To the answer to her prayer.
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Laurie: it's not where your peace results.
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Robyn: she was peaceful now.
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And i actually say to myself things like, i am healthy.
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I am whole.
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Jesus is peace now.
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He's peace with us.
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I say to myself, i am happy.
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Sometimes we have a tendency to go, when this happens, well,
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That's when i'm gonna be happy.
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When my kids get to college, when my marriage gets better,
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When i have more money, all the whens of life, you know, when i
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Lose 10 pounds.
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[crosstalk]
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Robyn: that's when i'm really gonna be happy.
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But the truth is, no, the prince of peace brings peace now.
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And i'll tell you a personal testimony new in my life.
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I'd been in a different prayer walk.
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We do prayer times every year and we just came through 21 days
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Of prayer.
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But something new has been happening in that i find myself
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I could be anxious.
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I can wake up at night and i don't sleep well and i'm like,
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Oh, you know.
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And i've learned that if i will rest in peace, right, and how do
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I find that peace?
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And something new for me i'll just share is that i literally
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Will envision.
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We've lived in the same house now for 20-plus years.
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And i envision walking out of my front door and walking.
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We're a couple of blocks from the beach and i envision myself
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Walking to that beach.
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And i walk out that front door.
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I'm imagining this beautiful scene.
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I walk to a place where i like to be on the beach and i sit in
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These chairs that are there.
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And as i sit down and i had this anxious whatever, i envision the
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Prince of peace, and he comes and he sits next to me in that
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Lawn chair on that beach.
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Now i can't see him.
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I don't look at his face but i have this strong impression that
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Peace has walked in and i sit there and i put my toes up the
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Way all of us girls do and i look at that ocean in my mind's
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Eye the middle of the night and peace that passes
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All understanding.
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And i chat with him.
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You know, i talk about, well this is this and that's that.
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What do you think?
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And honestly, i have peace because he is peace.
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And nothing changed.
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I had to go to sleep and get up and go back.
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Dr. deedee: nothing changed.
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Robyn: nothing changed.
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Laurie: you renewed your mind.
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Robyn: nothing changed, okay.
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So we can right now at this christmas season, we can rest in
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The, i can rest in the peace that my boy, 35, well, no, i
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Don't know his future.
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I don't know how it's gonna go with this situation or that but
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The future belongs to the prince of peace.
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Robyn: jesus said that we would have peace, not like the world
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Gives but peace that passes understanding.
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Honestly, that's exactly what it is.
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It passes understanding.
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I can't really even explain it except i experience it.
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In everyday life, there are circumstances i've faced that
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Others would say, nope, she's never gonna get out of that.
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That's gonna be the end of her or them.
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And i have learned that because i know the end of the story,
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Which is eternity with god, i don't know what that looks like,
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The bible talks about heaven.
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I'm excited to know more about that.
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But the truth is, i don't really understand even that idea but i
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Have a peace that doesn't have an explanation.
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A calmness, an awareness that after serving the lord all my
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Life, i have seen the pieces come together over and
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Over again.
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Stephanie ike: i love that because first of all, it talks
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About the peace surpasses all natural understanding.
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Because our understanding of life is limited.
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Our understanding of the people in our lives is limited.
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We only know based on what we've experienced.
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You know, so if you have kids, or a family member, a brother or
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Sister, you only know them according to your experience
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Of them.
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But then the creator of them, the one who sees the end from
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The beginning when you see it in his hand, when you see
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Everything in his hand, it's like i don't understand how this
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Connects to whatever is next, but i have peace, not because i
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Need to figure this out but because my world is in his hands
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And he will work it out.
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Because there are things that are outside of your control.
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You know, even for me like i counted on the lord.
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I was the kid that my mom is like, yeah, stephanie is just,
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You know, she's the pillar.
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I'm the youngest but they will always call me like the pillar
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Of the family.
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They're like she's just so just easygoing.
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But i also had a phase in my life.
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I felt i was like, you know, god, i'm bored.
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I said this is a little boring.
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I wanna have some fun, you know?
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And if my mom knew the details of what i was calling fun, she
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May have been stressed out.
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But it would have been stress for no reason.
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Because even though i was wilding out and acting out, you
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Know, in the hands of god still, he still brought me back
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To center.
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I had a moment in my life that i was like, you know what, god,
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I'm bored, this is boring.
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And i called it boring just because i was overwhelmed by the
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Pressures of society of what fun looked like.
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And even in that season it is possible that people would have
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Been stressing out like we don't know what happened to stephanie,
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You know?
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But it was a short season.
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And god knew how because he is still my lord, he is still
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My father.
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So even if the voices of people around me didn't know how to
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Bring me back, he knew how to bring me back.
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Laurie: we just have to lay down what we think we understand.
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Of what i think is going on.
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So and women try to sit and figure it out so i can waste a
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Lot of time, i can stay up a lot of hours trying to understand
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And trying to work something out in my mind.
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And the bible says clearly, he says, lean not on your
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Own understanding.
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And then he says the peace that passes all understanding will
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Mount guard and garrison.
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That means just protect your heart and your mind if we keep
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Our mind stayed on him.
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Well, who is he?
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He's the prince of peace.
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You know, we've been talking about isaiah giving the
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Children, you know, that are so horribly abused right now back
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In isaiah.
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The promise of the messiah that is going to come.
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I'm just here to give you some hope, he is coming, right?
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And so he says wonderful, counselor, mighty god,
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Everlasting father, prince of peace.
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He could have said miracle worker, water walker, calms us
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The storms.
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He could have said all the things that, boy, means so much
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To us because they're.
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It's like right here and now he's gonna walk on this water,
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Wow, entertaining.
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But he knew what we would need.
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He knew we would need a wonderful counselor.
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He knew we would need guidance in our life and wisdom in
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Our life.
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He knew we would need peace.
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And so he gives that peace to us.
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He knew we would need a heavenly father, a father that never
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Leaves, that he never leaves us, he never forsakes us.
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He's always there, he always protects us, leads us and
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Guides us.
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So he knew all those things and he was so intentional about who
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He said was coming.
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I think it's what we need right now.
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We need to know that not everything has to be going my
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Way and that i don't always have to understand what god is doing
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But i know he's doing something good.
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And it doesn't all have to be good because he can take all of
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This bad and turn it for my good.
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Stephanie: i do believe that knowing jesus as a prince of
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Peace is the key to finding hope.
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Because, you know, when you think about hope in itself, hope
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Needs a foundation, hope needs an anchor.
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If you just have like, you can't just hope for things in the air,
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You know, what is what anchors your hope, right?
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Even the bible talks about that faith is the substance of things
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Hoped for, right?
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But even that hope needs an anchor because then you're
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Hoping for something but what gives you the conviction, what
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Gives you the expectation for what you even hope for is found
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In him.
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It's all found in jesus, right?
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Because when you're hoping for something, it's not in your
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Present, it's not in your now, right?
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Hope speaks to an expectation.
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It speaks of what's to come.
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And so the only way that you can be anchored in what's to come is
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In knowing who controls it, is in knowing who ordains it.
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It's in knowing that it is not in your hands, that it is in the
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Hands of god, and that is what anchors your expectation.
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It's like, okay, i can hope for this in god because he is the
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One that is in charge of the seasons of my life.
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So i can believe that this is to come because he's already there.
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He is the alpha and the omega.
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He's in everything.
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He is in my future, so i can trust him with it.
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Dr. deedee: it's easy to focus on all of the bad.
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I mean because that's what most of us we hear about all the
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Time, right?
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I mean even the world thinks peace is just absence of war and
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It's not.
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I mean you may not physically see a war in certain parts of
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The world but a war is going on all the time.
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And so for him to say he's our prince of peace, that we can
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Rest in him, the bible talks about everything that was
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Written was written afore time, you know, so we can have hope
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Through the scriptures.
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It's like if it's in here he knew we needed to hear that he
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Can be our peace regardless of what's going on in our life.
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And so even those that are home experiencing all kind of
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Turmoil, they can just escape on the canvases of their
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Imaginations and just begin to meditate on the goodness of god.
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It's like okay, i don't even focus on this.
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I remember when i wanted to start seeing better in my
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Relationship and i was so consumed with me in the
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Very beginning.
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It was like it was all about me.
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You're not doing this for me.
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You're not this, you're not that, da da da da whatever.
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It was like god had to arrest me, arrest my soul, to get me to
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Think and to see things, you know, a lot different.
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Because i was so off.
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And when i started thinking about, okay, god, you're good,
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You're faithful, your word says this, your word decrees this.
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I mean it gave me a different view.
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And so i begin to write my vision.
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My vision didn't look like it was happening right then but
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When you write it on the canvas of your imagination and start
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Seeing what you want to see, you would take your attention off
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What you're seeing.
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And i'm not trying to play on words but you would take your
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Attention off of what you're seeing in the natural and put
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Your attention on what you wanna see in the spiritual.
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And because i did that, it changed me.
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It changed me, it didn't change my relationship.
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It didn't change what i was coming home to every day.
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It did not change that.
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But it changed how i perceived it and how i saw it.
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So i started treating him different.
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And the moment i started treating him different is when i
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Started seeing things change.
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It was like god, just let me see something different because how
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You see things will dictate to you how you will respond.
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And if i keep seeing it in the negative, this is how i'm going
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To respond.
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Dr. deedee: i have totally learned how to drop all
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Negativity at the door.
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Negativity does not create positivity.
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It's not worth going back and viewing all of the negative
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Things that, you know, could possibly happen in your life
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Because it's a hindrance.
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So it's so important that you embrace the prince of peace in
00:30:23.979 --> 00:30:27.983
Whatever situation that you're going through because it will
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Promote you, it will catapult you to a place of rest if
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You will.
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And i want to be at a place of rest.
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I want to be at a place of peace.
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So it's easy to lay aside every weight, the scripture says, that
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Easily throws you off.
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I don't want to be thrown off anymore.
00:30:47.836 --> 00:30:49.905
I want to be thrown to.
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I want to be catapulted to the prince of peace.
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So focus on what you are going through and not what you are
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Going through.
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Jeannie: you begin to prophesy the things that front as though
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They were and then they come.
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So you see it with your eye, you prophesy it with your mouth, and
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Then you seize it in your spirit.
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But you've got to see it before you can seize it.
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You see it and then you have to speak it.
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Speaking is really, really important.
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And i think about this.
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Peace works at its best when life is at its worst.
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Peace is at its best, it works best when life is at its worst.
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Dr. deedee: okay, i got a question before you go on, do
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You think it works best or do you think you see it best?
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Jeannie: you have to see it and then you have to proclaim it and
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Then you seize it.
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Because the spirit of the lord is at work all around us.
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I mean there's so many things that the holy spirit wants to
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Drop into us but we're tuned in so many different directions and
00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:56.505
We don't catch it.
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So peace is there to be had but you have to be able to see it,
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And then speak it, and then seize it.
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Robyn: what we do, at least what i've done most of my life and
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I've had a change in my world, is that i just made up my mind,
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I chose a moment, a tipping point where i said, you
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Know what?
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Not gonna take that anymore and i'm only gonna talk about, write
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About, speak about what i want.
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I am not gonna talk about what i don't want, what the devil
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May want.
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I'm not ever gonna talk about it.
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So let me give you an example.
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She's talking about marriage, my home, family,
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Personal relationships.
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Life changes.
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Your loved ones are changing too.
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They're growing, they're doing all kinds of things, and it's
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Important that instead of hanging on to yesterday, and
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This is a good idea about christmas, instead of hanging on
00:32:50.392 --> 00:32:54.563
To the way it used to be, or i think it should be, it's a great
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Moment to really talk to yourself and i'm doing this all
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The time.
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What is it i really want?
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I want and then you have a priority.
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And i'm thinking about you talking about your marriage,
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It's so powerful.
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Because we have a tendency to vocalize the negative part.
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Do you know how he talked to me?
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Do you know what that guy's like?
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All those things could be true.
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Do you know how those kids talk to me?
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They're not grateful, blah blah blah, and you're telling
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That story.
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It may be true but it's useless.
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It's true, but it's useless.
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It's not information that can change the future.
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It can't change.
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And what i've learned and it's so wonderful what you're saying
00:33:41.643 --> 00:33:45.280
Is that the only person i can change i'm only in charge of one
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And the only thing i can do is to shift my focus so that i'm
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Able to be different.
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And that's back to what i've learned about my prayer.
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I talked about the middle of the night is that instead of
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Allowing all these thoughts and i mean it's a discipline.
00:34:05.868 --> 00:34:10.305
We could talk a lot about thoughts but bringing thoughts
00:34:10.305 --> 00:34:14.176
Are the most important thing because what i think causes my
00:34:14.176 --> 00:34:17.746
Words which causes my actions, which causes my habits, which
00:34:17.746 --> 00:34:22.251
Catches my future, my legacy, is tied to how i think here.
00:34:22.251 --> 00:34:26.788
So changing my thinking, elevating my thinking, elevates
00:34:26.788 --> 00:34:31.059
My life.
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Laurie: and only you can tell your thinker what to
00:34:32.427 --> 00:34:34.830
Think, right?
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Robyn: laurie, talk about that because people say to me all the
00:34:36.899 --> 00:34:39.134
Time, well, i can't quit thinking about that.
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Laurie: yeah, that's when you have to renew your mind.
00:34:41.370 --> 00:34:43.805
You have got to stop thinking on the bad stuff and pick up your
00:34:43.805 --> 00:34:49.211
Bible and start anywhere.
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Just stop thinking about that.
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I mean you can start reading leviticus and get your mind and
00:34:54.316 --> 00:34:57.486
Your thoughts off of that thing that's pulling you, sucking you
00:34:57.486 --> 00:35:02.257
Down into the pit of hell, right?
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Jeannie: that this is why the word becomes so important
00:35:04.493 --> 00:35:06.862
Because otherwise it's just a positive mental attitude.
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And there has to be a heart transformation that takes place.
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So i can talk to myself.
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Bible says talk to yourself in psalms and spiritual songs.
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We do those kind of things.
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But the word changes my heart so that when i speak it's a seed.
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And i read the word and then i begin to speak it there's
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Transformation that takes place on the inside of me.
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Laurie: well, even david said edify-- didn't he say i
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Edify myself?
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Yeah sometimes we have to pat ourselves on the ol' back and
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Say edify yourself and just go anywhere.
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Laurie: yeah, i think in this day and age, right now, we need
00:35:41.563 --> 00:35:45.434
To realize how much of jesus that we need.
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We need comfort.
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We need peace.
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We need love to stand.
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That's what the whole armor of christ is.
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That is the shield of faith, the breastplate of righteousness,
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The helmet of salvation, my feet shod with your peace, and that
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Is to stand.
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When all the crazy things happen, you can stand and you
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Can believe, and you can stand strong.
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Brittany price brooker: the christmas season can come with a
00:36:35.952 --> 00:36:37.654
Lot of tenderness.
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I know for me it has been a hard season since loss.
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And i know a lot of people walk through pain, and it can be the
00:36:42.525 --> 00:36:44.694
Most tender season of the year.
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But also in the midst of the most tender season, we get to
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Experience immanuel, god with us, our prince of peace.
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And even in the midst of the chaos, and even in the midst of
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The pain, we can experience the prince of peace, jesus himself,
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As we invite him into our pain.
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♪♪♪
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Stephanie: even when you talked about like your marriage, right?
00:37:09.686 --> 00:37:12.288
And with this conversation on peace because we live in a
00:37:12.288 --> 00:37:16.626
Culture where when we feel that our peace is like we don't have
00:37:16.626 --> 00:37:23.199
Peace then we put it on other people.
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And so even for marriages, for example, a lot of marriages are
00:37:26.002 --> 00:37:28.638
Under attack right now because of this idea of, i don't feel
00:37:28.638 --> 00:37:32.909
Peace anymore in this so i'm gonna call it quits, you know?
00:37:32.909 --> 00:37:36.412
And i'm seeing that more and more.
00:37:36.412 --> 00:37:38.414
Laurie: that could be every day if we want to.
00:37:38.414 --> 00:37:40.183
Stephanie: yeah, that's like cool.
00:37:40.183 --> 00:37:41.551
You know, even as i'm gleaning, you know, from you all, can you
00:37:41.551 --> 00:37:43.886
Guys speak on that because it's something that it's growing in
00:37:43.886 --> 00:37:48.024
Alarming rates, where people have this feeling like, "i don't
00:37:48.024 --> 00:37:51.327
Feel peace."
00:37:51.327 --> 00:37:52.695
And they make decisions from that place.
00:37:52.695 --> 00:37:55.031
Dr. deedee: yeah, because they don't know who they are.
00:37:55.031 --> 00:37:57.166
They don't know what they carry.
00:37:57.166 --> 00:37:58.801
And i'm listening to this a lot.
00:37:58.801 --> 00:38:01.804
I understand god, and his supernatural power, and
00:38:01.804 --> 00:38:05.074
His presence.
00:38:05.074 --> 00:38:06.442
And i understand all of that.
00:38:06.442 --> 00:38:07.977
But i do also understand that he dwells on the inside of us, and
00:38:07.977 --> 00:38:13.249
All of who he is is in us.
00:38:13.249 --> 00:38:16.419
And so where we go he goes.
00:38:16.419 --> 00:38:19.389
We carry him.
00:38:19.389 --> 00:38:20.757
So i represent peace.
00:38:20.757 --> 00:38:22.725
When i step in a situation, i bring peace into a situation.
00:38:22.725 --> 00:38:26.963
But if i'm absent of the understanding of who i am, i
00:38:26.963 --> 00:38:31.067
Can't bring that in the situation.
00:38:31.067 --> 00:38:33.236
I know when i changed me, for instance, it was like i brought
00:38:33.236 --> 00:38:37.407
Peace into my home.
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I wasn't letting peace in my home.
00:38:39.575 --> 00:38:42.845
I was like a co-conspirator with the enemy if you will.
00:38:42.845 --> 00:38:47.583
It was like we were bringing conflict and chaos.
00:38:47.583 --> 00:38:52.688
It wasn't peace.
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But when i took my eyes, stopped making my husband the source of
00:38:54.023 --> 00:38:57.760
My satisfaction, knowing that god, you are the one who
00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:00.963
Satisfies my soul, that you are the prince of peace, and you
00:39:00.963 --> 00:39:05.501
Dwell on the inside of me?
00:39:05.501 --> 00:39:07.336
What?
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No, mm-mm, hell can't reign right here.
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Laurie: and it's his peace.
00:39:11.474 --> 00:39:12.842
It's not your peace, it's his peace.
00:39:12.842 --> 00:39:14.477
Dr. deedee: no, it's his peace, that magnificent obsession of
00:39:14.477 --> 00:39:18.414
Rest that i bring into a situation.
00:39:18.414 --> 00:39:21.250
It's like i don't care what's going on.
00:39:21.250 --> 00:39:24.253
And i'm so different now.
00:39:24.253 --> 00:39:25.822
I promise you, i can look at a situation now and see something
00:39:25.822 --> 00:39:30.259
Totally different.
00:39:30.259 --> 00:39:31.627
While everybody else is tripping out in marriages and all
00:39:31.627 --> 00:39:34.997
Different things, i'm looking like, really?
00:39:34.997 --> 00:39:38.167
Like how?
00:39:38.167 --> 00:39:39.502
It's like god will put you in this bubble.
00:39:39.502 --> 00:39:42.705
It's like you're encapsulated.
00:39:42.705 --> 00:39:44.407
That's what peace feels like for me.
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It's like it separates you.
00:39:46.576 --> 00:39:48.411
Like when they told me my husband was gonna die, you know,
00:39:48.411 --> 00:39:51.881
He wasn't gonna survive.
00:39:51.881 --> 00:39:53.349
It was like i was in such this bubble of peace where nothing
00:39:53.349 --> 00:39:57.520
Could penetrate it.
00:39:57.520 --> 00:39:59.055
But it comes out again of having a revelation and a relationship
00:39:59.055 --> 00:40:03.893
With the word.
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Jeannie: the prince of peace that we experience in the middle
00:40:05.228 --> 00:40:10.299
Of the storm is the peace of jesus.
00:40:10.299 --> 00:40:14.704
Sometimes we don't have enough inside of us to have our own
00:40:14.704 --> 00:40:18.307
Peace but we take on the peace of jesus.
00:40:18.307 --> 00:40:21.410
He says, i am the prince of peace.
00:40:21.410 --> 00:40:24.180
So it's not something you conjure up or you work up.
00:40:24.180 --> 00:40:27.884
You take the peace that jesus offers you, which means that you
00:40:27.884 --> 00:40:33.189
Trust him.
00:40:33.189 --> 00:40:34.724
You believe in him.
00:40:34.724 --> 00:40:36.325
You're confident of his love towards you, and you can have
00:40:36.325 --> 00:40:40.229
Peace that passes all understanding.
00:40:40.229 --> 00:40:44.100
Dr. deedee: in john 14:27, i love this because it's in
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The esv.
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It says, "peace i leave with you.
00:40:48.204 --> 00:40:50.072
My peace i give to you.
00:40:50.072 --> 00:40:52.608
Not as the world gives do i give to you."
00:40:52.608 --> 00:40:55.344
And this is the part that i really like right here.
00:40:55.344 --> 00:40:57.747
It says, "let not your hearts be troubled, neither let them
00:40:57.747 --> 00:41:03.753
Be afraid."
00:41:03.753 --> 00:41:05.555
That to me means that i have a responsibility.
00:41:05.555 --> 00:41:10.092
I have a role in righteousness that i am to fulfill as his
00:41:10.092 --> 00:41:14.330
Daughter, or as his child.
00:41:14.330 --> 00:41:16.532
I have a responsibility to not let my heart be troubled.
00:41:16.532 --> 00:41:22.838
I have to protect that.
00:41:22.838 --> 00:41:24.407
I have to guard my heart.
00:41:24.407 --> 00:41:26.876
I have to tell myself that regardless of what's going on, i
00:41:26.876 --> 00:41:30.613
Refuse to allow my heart to be troubled.
00:41:30.613 --> 00:41:33.249
I refuse to allow myself to be afraid.
00:41:33.249 --> 00:41:35.952
But how can i do that?
00:41:35.952 --> 00:41:37.320
Because i understand that okay, john 16, i'm gonna have trials
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:41.591
And tribulations in this world but be of good cheer, how?
00:41:41.591 --> 00:41:44.694
Because he has already overcome, you know, the world.
00:41:44.694 --> 00:41:47.830
So it's like i don't have to stress out, i don't have to trip
00:41:47.830 --> 00:41:50.866
Out because that's how peace comes.
00:41:50.866 --> 00:41:53.336
You have to know the end.
00:41:53.336 --> 00:41:55.905
You know the end of something.
00:41:55.905 --> 00:41:57.773
It's like people go to work all the time and they have peace in
00:41:57.773 --> 00:42:00.843
Their paycheck, or in their job.
00:42:00.843 --> 00:42:03.379
Because they know at the end of the week, they're gonna get
00:42:03.379 --> 00:42:05.448
Their paycheck, right?
00:42:05.448 --> 00:42:06.816
So okay, at the end of the week, i'm gonna be good because i'm
00:42:06.816 --> 00:42:09.385
Gonna be able to pay my bills.
00:42:09.385 --> 00:42:10.820
Well we can have that same peace every moment of our lives
00:42:10.820 --> 00:42:14.924
Because it's not gonna be all right, it's already all right.
00:42:14.924 --> 00:42:19.929
Jeannie: and just one more thing too.
00:42:19.929 --> 00:42:22.565
You know, the spirit of fear will steal our peace every time.
00:42:22.565 --> 00:42:27.003
And when we feel fear coming on, we have to stand against it
00:42:27.003 --> 00:42:32.675
Because it will steal the peace of god from us and fear is of
00:42:32.675 --> 00:42:35.778
The enemy.
00:42:35.778 --> 00:42:37.146
We're not talking about godly fear, the awe of god, we're
00:42:37.146 --> 00:42:39.715
Talking about fear.
00:42:39.715 --> 00:42:41.083
And even in our society right now people are out there that
00:42:41.083 --> 00:42:45.955
How do you conquer that?
00:42:45.955 --> 00:42:47.323
It's with the peace of god, it's really trusting god that he is
00:42:47.323 --> 00:42:51.961
Who he said he is and god is with us, he's inside of us and
00:42:51.961 --> 00:42:56.465
He won't leave us, he won't forsake us but we have to
00:42:56.465 --> 00:42:59.435
Believe that.
00:42:59.435 --> 00:43:00.770
Stephanie: and so it's knowing.
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It's like even committing yourself to your increasing in
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Your relationship with god to grow in the knowledge of god.
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Because wherever there is fear, there is ignorance.
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It's like i'm ignorant about the outcome so i'm afraid, right?
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But if i have knowledge about the outcome that's why i love
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When you say when you know the outcome, you know jesus would
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Talk about, how did he even phrase it?
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For the joy set before him.
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There was something he saw that gave him the ability to endure
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The cross.
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Yes, so he knew something, he didn't feel something, he had
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Knowledge of something.
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And i think, for us in society because someone might be
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Watching and say like is it a switch i turn it on?
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It's in the word of god.
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When you grow in knowledge of who god is, then you can replace
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The lie with the truth.
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Stephanie: it's the acknowledgement that i've come
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Out of my identity.
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I've come out of the awareness of my identity.
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And so when i get back to the place of who i am and whose i
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Am, it reminds me that the situation doesn't really change,
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Right, in the moment, but it reminds me of who is lord over
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The situation, who is lord over the circumstance, who is lord
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Over the moment.
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And so that's what shifts it.
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It's the reminder of who is controlling this, whose hands is
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It in, right?
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If i think of things in like it's in my hands, i recognize
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Whenever i'm anxious about something, whenever i'm worrying
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About something, it's because i've placed it in my hands.
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I have believed that the only way to get a favorable outcome
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Is based on what i have the power to do.
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And the anxiety kicks in because you have nothing else to do.
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You don't even know where the power is going to come from.
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And it shifts for me when i'm like, god, this is never even
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Supposed to be in my hands.
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This is always, it is in your hands, it has always been and it
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Will always will and i need to know is direction.
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What would you have me do?
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And sometimes the lord would just say, be still.
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You know like, the bible says, be still and know that i am god.
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And sometimes that peace comes from you just resting.
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Laurie: and you know i just wanna encourage people.
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This is the perfect season to start getting to know god.
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And i know a lot of people go well, how do i? they seem so far
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Ahead that they seem so.
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Well, it's relationship.
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We've been in this a long time.
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You know, and the more and more you focus that god is ever
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Present with us, he's immanuel, god with us, god in us, god for
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Us, god through us.
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He's the prince of peace, he's the mighty god, he's the
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Everlasting father.
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And you start dwelling on the things of god more and more
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Throughout your day, your relationship deepens.
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And i can say this.
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I've known jesus all of my life.
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I don't have a date where i received him because i probably
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I just can't remember.
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But even now, i can experience god in such beautiful ways.
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And things that maybe you have prayed for throughout the years
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All of a sudden you wake up and man, it's done.
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And you think oh, i wasn't even sure of when that change
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Happened but look at my son.
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It was a process and i knew it was a process but now i woke up
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One day and look where he's at, you know?
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And god is so faithful and his character is so good.
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And so spend time with him, be conscious of his presence in
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Your life, practice that presence, practice that daily
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Relationship all through the day.
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That doesn't mean that i have to go away from my kids and be, you
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Know, two hours with the lord.
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It doesn't mean that.
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It just means to.
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Dr. deedee: i would like that though.
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Laurie: i do like that.
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And maybe the season of your life will come that you can
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Do that.
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But i just encourage everyone to spend time and all of a sudden
00:47:01.644 --> 00:47:05.314
That relation deepens and all of a sudden you start experiencing
00:47:05.314 --> 00:47:08.984
God in ways that you never dreamed of, you never could have
00:47:08.984 --> 00:47:12.254
Prayed for it, and you experience god in such beautiful
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Ways and that's his gift to us.
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We get jesus.
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Dr. deedee: i love that.
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Laurie: that free beautiful gift.
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Dr. deedee: that's a beautiful thing, his gift to us, right?
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We're always thinking about what we can give to others but we
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Don't always put our attention on what he did for us.
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Laurie: that free beautiful gift.
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Dr. deedee: three beautiful, right?
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Laurie: i do.
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Dr. deedee: but i'm thinking about just the gift that keeps
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On giving.
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I mean jesus is a constant in our life and we get so caught up
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In the hustle and bustle of life.
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Going to the malls around this time thinking, oh, this
00:47:54.063 --> 00:47:56.999
Is christmas.
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I gotta get out here and do something.
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But it's like if we can stop, and pause, and meditate on the
00:47:59.802 --> 00:48:04.673
Goodness of god and what he has done for us and how he's always
00:48:04.673 --> 00:48:08.877
Given his self to us then we can begin to relax during this time,
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Begin to entreat others to experience, you know, what we
00:48:14.483 --> 00:48:18.687
Are experiencing inwardly.
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Not so much outwardly.
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It's not even about the gifts.
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And so i'm praying that everyone that has been viewing this week
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Will really entreat or embrace the sincere presence and peace
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Of god.
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Let's pray.
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So father, in the name of jesus, we thank you for an awesome
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Week, an awesome time of sharing your presence, having revelation
00:48:38.507 --> 00:48:43.379
Of who you are.
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So now i pray that the eyes of everyone's understanding will
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Begin to open up to you even greater, knowing that you are a
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Present help, that you will never leave them, that you will
00:48:53.956 --> 00:48:57.459
Never forsake them.
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Allow them now god to feel and to sense your presence more than
00:48:59.228 --> 00:49:03.999
They ever have before.
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Father, i thank you for being our father, our daddy, our
00:49:06.101 --> 00:49:10.472
Protector, our covering, our everything.
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So god we give you glory and we give you honor for the
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Revelation of who you are, being taken place now in jesus's name.
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Amen.
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Laurie: connect with us on social media and let us know how
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Our team can pray for you.
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♪♪♪
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Lisa harper: i think the majority of people, if they're
00:49:35.964 --> 00:49:38.100
Honest, feel alone at christmas because culture just aggrandizes
00:49:38.100 --> 00:49:43.906
Unrealistic lives.
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It's like everybody loves their spouse.
00:49:45.340 --> 00:49:47.376
They've got 2.5 kids, they've got matching sweaters and a
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Goldendoodle and grandparents on both sides that are kind.
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And that's pretty unrealistic for most of us.
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I think most people feel some sense of disappointment
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At christmas.
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The real key at christmas really isn't our circumstances.
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It's not even the family that you have, it's the savior that
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You have.
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The whole point of christmas is that jesus became like us so as
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To save us.
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His name was immanuel.
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Isaiah gave him that name.
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It means god with us.
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If you'll sit in that for a second, everything else kind of
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Pales next to the fact that god loved us so much that he
00:50:26.949 --> 00:50:32.754
Came near.
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So i would encourage you, if you feel lonely, lean into jesus
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This christmas.
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And then i bet you in the mercy of god he gives you people to
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Lean into too.
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Laurie: watch "better together" on the go.
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Download the free tbn+ app to stream all of your
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Favorite conversations.
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Know Peace this Christmas - Episode 1129

December 25, 2025 | S7 E1129 | 52:34

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