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Better Together | Recognize Your Authority! - Episode 1082 | August 5, 2025
- - women have always been a part of the legacy of the
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- Kingdom.
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- - stepping into any authority god has for us with our hands
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- Open.
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- - that's right.
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- - you look at the heroines throughout redemptive biblical
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- Narrative.
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- And our faith was carried on the shoulders of men
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- And women.
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- (music playing)
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- - i have always been fascinated with the story of
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- The woman who anoints jesus before his passion,
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- Which in the gospel of john, she's named as mary of
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- Bethany.
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- And she never speaks, which is totally opposite of me.
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- So, maybe that's part of why i'm drawn to her.
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- - that's another way to do this.
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- - but also, she's so brave, and she is sociological.
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- In this story, she does something that the rest of the
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- Disciples disdain and are upset at her about.
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- Namely, she uses expensive ointment to anoint jesus'
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- Feet, which is prophetic, but she has been listening to him
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- Say, i'm going to face my death, and she's hearing that,
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- And jesus receives that and says,
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- She's preparing my body for burial.
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- So, she's brave.
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- She faces then the backlash of the other disciples,
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- And she's so theological because she is, in some way,
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- Glimpsing that maybe, yes, he will be raised,
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- At least this is what i think.
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- And i think maybe it's because jesus has just,
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- In the recent past, raised her own brother, lazarus.
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- She steps into this space, they're together as much as
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- Any human can be in this moment before his passion.
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- So, she accepts that, if you will, authority or calling.
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- - i just love that you connected that she just
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- Witnessed jesus do this miracle.
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- I mean, there's a belief in that time that, if you died,
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- After about three days, your spirit still actually hovered
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- Over in the first day, second day, third day,
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- That your spirit hovered over the body.
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- So, there was like a little bit of hope that maybe lazarus
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- Could come back from the dead, but then it was four days,
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- And so all hope was lost.
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- And i love that when mary and her sister addresses him,
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- They're addressing him as teacher because he saw fit
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- That, as women, they would learn from him just as the
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- Men.
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- I didn't realize that mary had really experienced this
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- Miracle and now had the faith enough to know,
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- If you could do it for my brother,
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- I actually do believe it because she paid attention,
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- And she actually received something from the pain.
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- She received faith and purpose and hope.
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- And so, i just love that.
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- And i never even thought about that.
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- That's the story for me.
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- I love that story because, for many of us,
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- I think that we think the primary miracle in the story
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- Is that he raised someone from the dead.
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- And i also think another miracle is that jesus wept
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- With his daughters, his sisters, his friends,
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- These women that challenged him and his whereabouts.
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- And i just think that's such a glimpse into what this entire
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- Conversation is about this week.
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- - and with martha, also, i know you'll be raised in the
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- Last day.
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- So, she has something, and then he reveals himself and
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- The resurrection in the life.
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- Jesus does theology with women.
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- - yes, he does.
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- - i would say jesus' interaction with women,
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- We could call it revolutionary for his day,
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- Because in jesus' time, both jews and gentiles thought that
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- Men were the standard and women were kind of not as
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- Reliable, not as smart, not as interesting, not as capable,
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- And jesus didn't feel that way at all.
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- He talked theology with women.
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- He paid attention to their questions.
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- I have to say, jesus did that with others in the culture
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- That were marginalized.
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- Those who were ill, maybe those that sided with the
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- Romans, who were seen as oppressing the jews who lived
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- In judea and galilee.
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- So, jesus was revolutionary, not in the sense that we think
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- Of like a fighting revolutionary,
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- But rather someone who brought peace, true peace,
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- And he saw each individual and gave them god's peace.
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- - because i thought, i love that one.
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- I love the anointing with a woman who was the center in
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- The city, likely a human trafficking victim.
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- I love that.
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- And i think it's there.
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- I love that you frame it as bravery,
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- Because in that culture, knowing that all of their
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- Dinner parties are segregated for a woman to insert herself
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- In that space.
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- - that's right.
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- - and then, the humility and bravery.
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- It's like this perfect combination of humility and
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- Bravery and gratitude that they just couldn't stop
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- Saying, thank you.
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- I love the anointings.
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- - well, i'm just glad you made it plural, anointings,
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- Because what happens in the church is that luke 7,
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- That beautiful story of love becomes conflated with the
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- Anointing.
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- And i guess, this is about--
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- - all the time. they saw the mary's up.
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- - exactly.
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- - i know.
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- - most scholars think they were three.
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- There were definitively two, but there may have been three
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- Anointings of jesus.
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- I also love that you framed it as theology because the way
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- She anointed him was very intentional.
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- It was not just emotional.
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- This was not just sloppy estrogen.
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- It was a very prophetic anointing.
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- I'd love for you to talk more about her anointing his head,
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- Because i love the symbols of that,
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- And i don't know that i understood that until i heard
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- You teach on that passage.
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- - well, it's something that a prophet does to a king.
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- That's what we see in the old testament.
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- And so, she is declaring that he's king.
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- And the other disciples, not all the male disciples,
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- But at least some of them are imagining a victory coming in
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- Jerusalem, peter is the biggest example of that.
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- And thomas says, i'm willing to die for you.
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- And of course, we all want that confidence.
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- - and james and john, who gets to sit at your right and your
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- Left?
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- - oh, yes.
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- And that will come in the new heavens and the new earth.
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- But at this moment, mary was able to be there.
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- In john's gospel, it focuses on anointing the feet,
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- I think, because in the next chapter,
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- Jesus washes the disciple's feet.
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- And so, there's so much foreshadowing with what she is
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- Doing as a servant.
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- So, she's brave.
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- She doesn't need to defend herself,
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- But jesus is right there defending her and saying,
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- This story should be remembered every time my story
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- Is told.
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- I love that.
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- - and that's huge.
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- I think i've been drawn to the women in the new testament
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- That had these very human jobs.
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- You know what i mean?
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- A very human contact, like this mary of bethany or coming
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- To the tomb in order to engage the body of jesus and make
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- Sure everything is okay.
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- And there is something about women culturally and this idea
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- That we handle a lot of the human things and human
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- Processes.
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- There's no latitude for not actually listening to what the
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- Lord is saying and believing him,
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- Because you live in reality and just this idea that these
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- Women who have very human jobs culturally are engaging the
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- Lord, whether it's the woman at the well in samaria,
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- Or women who are doing the things that have to be done
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- And how the lord meets them in that place right there.
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- I think that's my favorite, because it always spreads out
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- From there theologically, it always spreads out from there
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- As far as ministry is concerned,
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- Which is why it's laughable that we would come to this
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- Place and say, women can't go tell the story that jesus has
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- Risen from the dead.
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- Well, kind of that was the first thing that happened.
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- First person who did it was a woman.
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- - what's the significance of women being the first to
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- Witness the resurrection?
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- I could talk for a long time on this,
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- But i will say that one of the ways i think we're encouraged
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- To read the bible is to look for echoes.
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- Have we seen this before?
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- Have we heard this before?
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- It is interesting in the gospel of john,
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- Because he's the gospel writer that tells us that mary
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- Magdalene in the garden after the resurrection,
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- She's interacting with jesus and she thinks he's the
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- Gardener.
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- And we ask ourselves, as bells and whistles are going off,
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- Do we have another time in scripture where god was
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- Talking to a woman in a garden?
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- And the answer to that is yes, it was eve.
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- And adam and eve bit the fruit and their eyes were open to
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- Sin and shame.
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- And here we have magdalene, the first one viewing the
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- Resurrection.
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- Her eyes were opened and she saw the resurrected jesus.
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- So, i think that there's something to that,
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- To jesus making sure that the first people he revealed his
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- Resurrected self to, he gave that gift to women.
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- - and especially as a mom of little kids right now,
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- You lose the latitude of just speaking and hoping and
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- Wanting philosophically, because little kids ask
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- Questions and little kids have very human physical needs.
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- And so, i love that, that even if there is a mom or a woman
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- In any part of the world that feels stuck in a very human
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- Job, like, oh my gosh.
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- That's actually his specialty, and that's where theology
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- Actually comes alive historically and currently,
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- And it's just been blessing me.
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- - i love that you talk about the practical ones,
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- Because i do think we almost elevate certain women that are
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- A little more ethereal.
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- I've always loved the woman in the song of songs,
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- Because that's where i really first begin to learn that a
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- God like that could actually delight a girl like me,
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- Not just deliver me for my sin.
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- There's so many i've identified with it,
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- Different chapters in my own story.
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- But i remember the first time going,
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- Because i like to get it done.
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- And i've talked about that we are hard workers,
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- And i love me some abigail.
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- Because you look at abigail and she did not marry well,
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- And probably had no choice in it,
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- And you see such practicality in her story.
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- The way she engages with david,
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- The way she represents her household and her husband is a
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- Just a yayhoo.
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- - i knew you were going to say that.
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- - i think because i see such extraordinary strength in her,
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- But she never sacrificed her femininity on the alter of
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- Strength, because i think all too often in culture,
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- We see those as binary, and to be strong and soft and
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- Practical and a minister of the gospel.
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- I love abigail's story.
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- - i think mine for real is deborah.
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- I love it.
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- - i love her leadership and posture.
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- She has immense humility.
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- She is not trying to come in and say, i am she.
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- Move out of the way.
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- She's actually prophetically submitted to what the lord-- -
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- She defers to barak.
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- - she defers to barak, not once, twice.
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- Didn't he say that this is the prophetic calling of the lord?
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- She is not trying to exert her strength as a woman,
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- Her position, her title.
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- She is saying, i heard from the lord, i respect his word,
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- And it's supposed to be you.
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- Okay?
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- - that's right.
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- And i also love that her leadership and humility led to
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- 40 years of peace.
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- When you start to look at judges,
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- There was a lot of leaders that did not lead these people
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- To peace.
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- Her obedience and leadership led to 40 years of peace.
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- - i've heard people say, well, it's just that god couldn't
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- Find a man at that moment to do that.
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- - i was told that in seminary, dr. cohick.
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- I asked one of my professors and he said she was a default.
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- And i remember writing in my notebook, even then i thought,
- 00:13:19.688 --> 00:13:22.691
- There were 3 million, at least,
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- Of god's people at that time.
- 00:13:25.561 --> 00:13:27.529
- And it says her own husband was a good man.
- 00:13:27.529 --> 00:13:30.399
- So, why not mr. deborah?
- 00:13:30.399 --> 00:13:34.203
- - i do believe that any woman, no matter her circumstance,
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- Can use her god-given influence for his purposes.
- 00:13:37.439 --> 00:13:42.311
- Absolutely, because i have seen in the word in my life,
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- In the lives of my friends and sisters and mothers,
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- Mother and grandmothers and aunts, and cousins.
- 00:13:50.586 --> 00:13:54.290
- I've seen in the life of everybody how god will,
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- Even when there seem to be shut doors,
- 00:13:57.626 --> 00:14:00.129
- God will get so creative and he will make space for the
- 00:14:00.129 --> 00:14:03.933
- People he has called.
- 00:14:03.933 --> 00:14:04.867
- And by the way, that's everybody.
- 00:14:04.867 --> 00:14:06.402
- And so, if the lord has called a woman to have influence in a
- 00:14:06.402 --> 00:14:10.940
- Certain sphere, you better believe that's what's going to
- 00:14:10.940 --> 00:14:14.310
- Happen.
- 00:14:14.310 --> 00:14:15.577
- - and let's just talk about jael.
- 00:14:15.577 --> 00:14:18.447
- He makes the exclamation point twice in that story.
- 00:14:18.447 --> 00:14:21.917
- - so, that was my second point.
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- I love that she shares in the glory of this defeat and she
- 00:14:23.218 --> 00:14:27.957
- Prophesize it.
- 00:14:27.957 --> 00:14:29.024
- It actually won't be you, barak.
- 00:14:29.024 --> 00:14:31.160
- I am really trying to give it to you.
- 00:14:31.160 --> 00:14:33.395
- But at the end of the day, it will be a woman and it's not
- 00:14:33.395 --> 00:14:36.432
- Her.
- 00:14:36.432 --> 00:14:37.433
- She's not speaking from a prideful place.
- 00:14:37.433 --> 00:14:39.101
- She's not like, at the end of the day,
- 00:14:39.101 --> 00:14:40.402
- I'm about to crush it.
- 00:14:40.402 --> 00:14:41.537
- She's actually speaking of a whole different woman.
- 00:14:41.537 --> 00:14:43.672
- - a whole different woman.
- 00:14:43.672 --> 00:14:44.707
- She went to home depot and got a tent peg.
- 00:14:44.707 --> 00:14:47.443
- - ta ta ta.
- 00:14:47.443 --> 00:14:48.744
- And was strategic too, because she waited until he laid on
- 00:14:48.744 --> 00:14:50.612
- Down.
- 00:14:50.612 --> 00:14:51.613
- - you know what's so cool about that too?
- 00:14:51.613 --> 00:14:52.614
- Again, going back to practical.
- 00:14:52.614 --> 00:14:53.949
- It's not women just being strident and grabbing things
- 00:14:53.949 --> 00:14:57.152
- That aren't ours.
- 00:14:57.152 --> 00:14:58.153
- Why was jael able to perfectly hit that?
- 00:14:58.153 --> 00:15:02.624
- Because if she misses, he's going to kill her.
- 00:15:02.624 --> 00:15:04.193
- Her husband's probably going to kill her.
- 00:15:04.193 --> 00:15:06.462
- How many times had she-- because women back then are
- 00:15:06.462 --> 00:15:10.733
- The ones that did the tents.
- 00:15:10.733 --> 00:15:13.135
- - building the tents, running businesses, selling land.
- 00:15:13.135 --> 00:15:15.537
- - women are the ones who would pound those pegs in every day.
- 00:15:15.537 --> 00:15:18.707
- And you go, she's been faithful to what god has
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- Called her to.
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- She did not usurp authority.
- 00:15:22.611 --> 00:15:24.580
- She wasn't strident.
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- She wasn't burning her bra.
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- She's doing what yahweh has called her do every day.
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- She's fixing the tent for family, and she's ready.
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- She's from moving around over and over again in her family
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- And having the lowliest task of being the one with dirty
- 00:15:40.829 --> 00:15:43.866
- Hands, putting those tent pegs in day after day for her
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- Family to move to get water.
- 00:15:47.436 --> 00:15:50.339
- She's the one who has the expertise with the mallet and
- 00:15:50.339 --> 00:15:54.109
- The tent peg.
- 00:15:54.109 --> 00:15:54.777
- I love that.
- 00:15:54.777 --> 00:15:56.011
- That's not because she just suddenly got brave in that
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- Moment.
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- It's because she's been doing the test god has set before
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- Her with humility, day after day, year after year.
- 00:16:02.251 --> 00:16:05.154
- And then he calls her to greatness.
- 00:16:05.154 --> 00:16:06.955
- And she's like, yes sir, i'm ready.
- 00:16:06.955 --> 00:16:08.791
- - and if you're confused at all about this story,
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- About the tent peg, i just would encourage you to go and
- 00:16:10.926 --> 00:16:13.395
- Read, judges 4?
- 00:16:13.395 --> 00:16:14.229
- - 4 and 5, yes.
- 00:16:14.229 --> 00:16:15.864
- - 4 and 5, and just get excited,
- 00:16:15.864 --> 00:16:19.568
- Because it's like a little soap opera, honestly.
- 00:16:19.568 --> 00:16:20.502
- It's so great.
- 00:16:20.502 --> 00:16:21.770
- - it's better than netflix, baby.
- 00:16:21.770 --> 00:16:22.938
- - truly.
- 00:16:22.938 --> 00:16:24.039
- - anybody who says the bible's boring, i'm like,
- 00:16:24.039 --> 00:16:25.441
- You have not read it.
- 00:16:25.441 --> 00:16:26.542
- - you're literally not reading it.
- 00:16:26.542 --> 00:16:28.010
- - i love this idea of being faithful in the little things
- 00:16:28.010 --> 00:16:31.680
- So that we can be prepared for the big things that god wants
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- To use us for.
- 00:16:34.349 --> 00:16:35.451
- Because it really is, just like our children.
- 00:16:35.451 --> 00:16:37.453
- We give them little bitty tasks and little bitty forms
- 00:16:37.453 --> 00:16:40.722
- Of leadership so that they can be conditioned to lead,
- 00:16:40.722 --> 00:16:43.358
- So that when bigger opportunities come,
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- We can trust them with it.
- 00:16:45.194 --> 00:16:46.662
- Not because they're just inherently untrustworthy.
- 00:16:46.662 --> 00:16:49.131
- Not because the lord doesn't actually believe in us,
- 00:16:49.131 --> 00:16:51.767
- But because he knows that we need training.
- 00:16:51.767 --> 00:16:54.169
- We need training to lead in the little so that we can lead
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- In the big.
- 00:16:56.405 --> 00:16:57.506
- And we even see that in jael's story, is like,
- 00:16:57.506 --> 00:17:00.342
- She took her little tent peg and she just ran that thing
- 00:17:00.342 --> 00:17:03.011
- Right on through this sucker's skull,
- 00:17:03.011 --> 00:17:04.713
- And she helped debra bring about peace for the nation of
- 00:17:04.713 --> 00:17:08.617
- Israel for 40 years.
- 00:17:08.617 --> 00:17:10.452
- And it was just by this little act of bravery and confidence.
- 00:17:10.452 --> 00:17:14.356
- I think that's how the lord views us and how he allows us
- 00:17:14.356 --> 00:17:18.327
- To operate in his kingdom.
- 00:17:18.327 --> 00:17:21.497
- - god wants us to do life together because we are better
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- Together.
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- - when i think about authority lately,
- 00:17:49.024 --> 00:17:50.492
- We don't think often of the authority that comes through
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- Suffering.
- 00:17:53.862 --> 00:17:54.997
- We want to hear from the person that's been through
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- Something.
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- If you've not been hit yet, dinged yet, mauled yet.
- 00:18:01.036 --> 00:18:05.374
- If life hasn't punched you in the throat yet,
- 00:18:05.374 --> 00:18:08.343
- We want to hear from that person.
- 00:18:08.343 --> 00:18:11.113
- And i think because, i'm just in a challenging season right
- 00:18:11.113 --> 00:18:14.316
- Now, the woman that's really been speaking to me lately is
- 00:18:14.316 --> 00:18:18.520
- Moses' mother, jochebed.
- 00:18:18.520 --> 00:18:21.089
- We know the story early in exodus.
- 00:18:21.089 --> 00:18:23.392
- There's a pharaoh that passes an edict of infanticide.
- 00:18:23.392 --> 00:18:26.628
- We're going to kill all of the hebrew boys.
- 00:18:26.628 --> 00:18:29.164
- And so, we have moses's mother here.
- 00:18:29.164 --> 00:18:33.802
- And the authority that she exercises is like an authority
- 00:18:33.802 --> 00:18:38.473
- Of relinquishment.
- 00:18:38.473 --> 00:18:39.708
- Rather than trying to gain, acquire, climb, build,
- 00:18:39.708 --> 00:18:44.880
- Her plan isn't to go overthrow the pharaoh.
- 00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:47.249
- The bible talks about when she builds a basket and covers it
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- In pitch.
- 00:18:52.821 --> 00:18:53.956
- It's the hebrew word for an ark.
- 00:18:53.956 --> 00:18:56.058
- She built an ark, the same word that's used for noah in
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- His ark.
- 00:19:01.063 --> 00:19:02.030
- She built an ark and put her son in it.
- 00:19:02.030 --> 00:19:05.567
- Put baby moses in it.
- 00:19:05.567 --> 00:19:07.336
- And then y'all, this is what's just been blowing my mind
- 00:19:07.336 --> 00:19:09.805
- Lately.
- 00:19:09.805 --> 00:19:10.906
- I'm like, lord, i don't have this kind of faith.
- 00:19:10.906 --> 00:19:12.174
- I want this kind of faith.
- 00:19:12.174 --> 00:19:14.042
- But the bible specifically says they were drowning the
- 00:19:14.042 --> 00:19:17.813
- Hebrew boys in the nile.
- 00:19:17.813 --> 00:19:20.215
- Where did she put the basket with moses in it?
- 00:19:20.215 --> 00:19:24.853
- In the reeds along the nile.
- 00:19:24.853 --> 00:19:28.557
- How many of you would've done that differently?
- 00:19:28.557 --> 00:19:30.792
- I'm like running in the opposite direction with my
- 00:19:30.792 --> 00:19:34.029
- Baby.
- 00:19:34.029 --> 00:19:35.063
- They're drowning the baby boys in the nile,
- 00:19:35.063 --> 00:19:36.732
- I'm moving away from the nile.
- 00:19:36.732 --> 00:19:39.301
- And i think about that moment for her and what it took.
- 00:19:39.301 --> 00:19:42.638
- But i do feel, i want to ask her one day in the world to
- 00:19:42.638 --> 00:19:45.674
- Come.
- 00:19:45.674 --> 00:19:47.009
- I want to go sit by her at the wedding supper of the lamb and
- 00:19:47.009 --> 00:19:48.310
- Hear her tell the story.
- 00:19:48.310 --> 00:19:49.778
- So you build an ark, which feels hopeful, right?
- 00:19:49.778 --> 00:19:53.582
- And just that, i imagine her sending him,
- 00:19:53.582 --> 00:19:58.220
- Relinquishing him.
- 00:19:58.220 --> 00:19:59.388
- - i can't imagine.
- 00:19:59.388 --> 00:20:00.322
- - and what that would've been like.
- 00:20:00.322 --> 00:20:01.890
- And then how the story talks about,
- 00:20:01.890 --> 00:20:03.525
- It's miriam that follows along watching.
- 00:20:03.525 --> 00:20:06.728
- And she's the one that sees the pharaonic princes,
- 00:20:06.728 --> 00:20:09.998
- And i just think-- and what's so funny is hebrews 11,
- 00:20:09.998 --> 00:20:14.102
- The great hall of faith.
- 00:20:14.102 --> 00:20:15.570
- It says, and moses's parents, when he was three months old,
- 00:20:15.570 --> 00:20:20.342
- Hid him.
- 00:20:20.342 --> 00:20:21.543
- And amram is probably around, but when you go read the
- 00:20:21.543 --> 00:20:24.413
- Exodus account, it's she, she, she.
- 00:20:24.413 --> 00:20:28.917
- It's her.
- 00:20:28.917 --> 00:20:30.218
- This feminine strength of suffering,
- 00:20:30.218 --> 00:20:32.921
- This authority of faith, this i'm going to trust god so
- 00:20:32.921 --> 00:20:35.824
- Much, i'm going to build an ark from my baby boy,
- 00:20:35.824 --> 00:20:38.193
- And i'm going to send him out.
- 00:20:38.193 --> 00:20:40.295
- And i've been thinking about her so often lately,
- 00:20:40.295 --> 00:20:43.432
- Because i try to hold on to things,
- 00:20:43.432 --> 00:20:44.933
- Relinquishment is not my spiritual gift.
- 00:20:44.933 --> 00:20:47.869
- It is not.
- 00:20:47.869 --> 00:20:49.104
- And it does come from that reflex of the orphan in me.
- 00:20:49.104 --> 00:20:52.641
- I'm just like, am i okay?
- 00:20:52.641 --> 00:20:53.909
- Am i okay?
- 00:20:53.909 --> 00:20:56.078
- And she's so beautiful in this moment.
- 00:20:55.110 --> 00:20:59.514
- All this pharaonic power passing these edicts and doing
- 00:20:59.514 --> 00:21:04.086
- These things, and here she is, just letting him go.
- 00:21:04.086 --> 00:21:08.323
- And everything we read about moses,
- 00:21:08.323 --> 00:21:10.158
- Everything we read in the bible about moses,
- 00:21:10.158 --> 00:21:13.362
- All of that happened because of that moment,
- 00:21:13.362 --> 00:21:16.665
- Her relinquishing him and letting him go.
- 00:21:16.665 --> 00:21:22.170
- - god is holy, and he invites us into his world of holiness
- 00:21:22.270 --> 00:21:28.877
- And goodness and joy and peace.
- 00:21:28.877 --> 00:21:31.079
- And if i believe that, then the challenge that god seems
- 00:21:31.079 --> 00:21:36.818
- To be presenting before me that seems overwhelming.
- 00:21:36.818 --> 00:21:39.388
- I can think, god, no.
- 00:21:39.388 --> 00:21:40.689
- God would take care of me no matter what is this next step
- 00:21:40.689 --> 00:21:45.694
- As i just walk faithful each and every day.
- 00:21:45.694 --> 00:21:49.698
- Sometimes situations come up as, for example,
- 00:21:49.698 --> 00:21:53.969
- With moses and his mother and the crisis that the hebrews
- 00:21:53.969 --> 00:21:59.775
- Faced.
- 00:21:59.775 --> 00:22:00.842
- In that moment, she showed faithfulness,
- 00:22:00.842 --> 00:22:03.745
- As did sister miriam.
- 00:22:03.745 --> 00:22:06.515
- But there are other times where it's just about
- 00:22:06.515 --> 00:22:09.618
- Perseverance.
- 00:22:09.618 --> 00:22:11.620
- It's just about each and every day getting out of bed and
- 00:22:11.620 --> 00:22:14.589
- Doing what god has set before you.
- 00:22:14.589 --> 00:22:18.160
- And in both cases, you're blessed,
- 00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:21.296
- Because you're honoring god in faithfulness that i think,
- 00:22:21.296 --> 00:22:25.801
- Well, let's say maybe that brings a smile to jesus' face.
- 00:22:25.801 --> 00:22:30.238
- - think of that theme of a strong woman whose strength
- 00:22:30.338 --> 00:22:33.074
- Comes from the lord laying something down rather than
- 00:22:33.074 --> 00:22:36.878
- Gathering, because you see it again in hannah.
- 00:22:36.878 --> 00:22:38.947
- You see it in the anointing with mary.
- 00:22:38.947 --> 00:22:41.316
- You see it in elizabeth.
- 00:22:41.316 --> 00:22:43.685
- Over and over again.
- 00:22:43.685 --> 00:22:45.487
- You see women going, not what i'm holding onto,
- 00:22:45.487 --> 00:22:49.758
- But whatever you want me to let go of for your honor and
- 00:22:49.758 --> 00:22:51.993
- Your glory.
- 00:22:51.993 --> 00:22:52.761
- - even the woman at the well.
- 00:22:52.761 --> 00:22:54.329
- She's like, forget that water.
- 00:22:54.329 --> 00:22:57.165
- - i think what you're saying about relinquishment, boy,
- 00:22:57.165 --> 00:23:01.303
- That so informs what we're even talking about,
- 00:23:01.303 --> 00:23:05.474
- Was stepping into any authority god has for us,
- 00:23:05.474 --> 00:23:08.510
- Was stepping into it with our hands open of take whatever
- 00:23:08.510 --> 00:23:11.146
- You need to take.
- 00:23:11.146 --> 00:23:12.347
- - wow.
- 00:23:12.347 --> 00:23:13.081
- - and i want to build arks.
- 00:23:13.081 --> 00:23:15.383
- I want my life to build arks.
- 00:23:15.383 --> 00:23:17.519
- I want to be a hopeful presence,
- 00:23:17.519 --> 00:23:19.788
- Both in ways of authority and in suffering,
- 00:23:19.788 --> 00:23:23.124
- Really in all of it.
- 00:23:23.124 --> 00:23:24.326
- - a relinquishment, yes.
- 00:23:24.326 --> 00:23:25.327
- - a buoyancy.
- 00:23:25.327 --> 00:23:26.628
- A buoyant hopefulness in who jesus is and what he's doing.
- 00:23:26.628 --> 00:23:29.664
- - you just preached to me today.
- 00:23:29.664 --> 00:23:32.367
- - i think fundamentally, we can lean toward despair or
- 00:23:32.367 --> 00:23:36.104
- Hope, and those are two really big words.
- 00:23:36.104 --> 00:23:39.608
- And when i look at jochebed, moses' mother,
- 00:23:39.608 --> 00:23:42.444
- Her choice to not go the way of despair,
- 00:23:42.444 --> 00:23:46.047
- To not believe that there could be a salvation for her
- 00:23:46.047 --> 00:23:48.517
- Baby moses, but she chose the way of hope.
- 00:23:48.517 --> 00:23:51.753
- And in building that basket of hope,
- 00:23:51.753 --> 00:23:54.789
- It broke forward even the opportunity for moses to live.
- 00:23:54.789 --> 00:23:59.094
- And so, i think when i think about that in my own life,
- 00:23:59.094 --> 00:24:01.563
- When i say i want to be a person who builds arcs,
- 00:24:01.563 --> 00:24:04.199
- I want to choose hope over despair.
- 00:24:04.199 --> 00:24:07.369
- I want to choose life over death.
- 00:24:07.369 --> 00:24:09.971
- And i want to be the agency of that in this world.
- 00:24:09.971 --> 00:24:14.175
- - and i was thinking of miriam, her daughter,
- 00:24:14.175 --> 00:24:16.378
- How they must have strategized,
- 00:24:16.378 --> 00:24:19.247
- Stand close enough by, how she must have talked.
- 00:24:19.247 --> 00:24:22.484
- Also to aaron, miriam and aaron who grow up under her
- 00:24:22.484 --> 00:24:26.888
- Care.
- 00:24:26.888 --> 00:24:27.923
- And then the two of them reunited with moses,
- 00:24:27.923 --> 00:24:31.126
- And the three lead the people out.
- 00:24:31.126 --> 00:24:33.194
- And you see then the legacy of this woman.
- 00:24:33.194 --> 00:24:37.799
- She's built the ark as a temporary holding.
- 00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:41.836
- Exactly.
- 00:24:41.836 --> 00:24:43.071
- But there's also something she creates more permanent,
- 00:24:43.071 --> 00:24:46.374
- That although she personally doesn't go,
- 00:24:46.374 --> 00:24:48.743
- Her children then lead the people.
- 00:24:48.743 --> 00:24:52.080
- - that inspires me so much.
- 00:24:52.080 --> 00:24:53.448
- - this is extra biblical, but i've always wondered because
- 00:24:53.448 --> 00:24:55.116
- She sang the first worship song.
- 00:24:55.116 --> 00:24:56.985
- And i've always wondered if to calm him,
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- As a three-month-old, because they are fussy.
- 00:25:00.221 --> 00:25:02.524
- I always wondered, did she sing when she was in the
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- Reeds?
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- Because surely, that first worship song wasn't the first
- 00:25:06.962 --> 00:25:09.497
- Time she sang.
- 00:25:09.497 --> 00:25:10.465
- Little bit of creative lessons, but yet,
- 00:25:10.465 --> 00:25:13.401
- It's cool to think about.
- 00:25:13.401 --> 00:25:14.569
- That word, legacy, made me feel-- i feel like i'm in
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- Therapy right now.
- 00:25:17.672 --> 00:25:18.907
- It made me feel so proud, because women have always been
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- A part of the legacy of the kingdom.
- 00:25:22.677 --> 00:25:24.579
- I mean, this is moses' mother.
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- I just love these different perspectives.
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- I love how the lord's illuminating them in our
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- Hearts because it is just enlightening us here,
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- And i know for everyone watching at home, i'm like,
- 00:25:35.056 --> 00:25:37.726
- Moses' mom was the catalyst to a legacy of freedom.
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- - and don't ever let culture tell you you are just a mom.
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- If you look at the heroines throughout redemptive biblical
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- Narrative, and you have these women who, goodness gracious.
- 00:25:54.676 --> 00:26:00.115
- Our faith was carried on the shoulders of men and women.
- 00:26:00.115 --> 00:26:05.020
- - i think that every believer needs to really hold onto this
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- Idea that we have dominion and we have authority.
- 00:26:08.289 --> 00:26:10.992
- And it's not from our own flesh or our gifts or our
- 00:26:10.992 --> 00:26:14.095
- Talents, but when we said yes to jesus,
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- And we decided that we wouldn't just be a fan of his,
- 00:26:15.997 --> 00:26:18.266
- But a follower, a true follower,
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- We inherit authority.
- 00:26:20.135 --> 00:26:22.937
- We inherit the confidence that we could actually defeat any
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- Evil against us because we have the power of god in us.
- 00:26:27.075 --> 00:26:32.113
- - in the book of acts chapter 9,
- 00:26:32.113 --> 00:26:34.482
- There's the story of dorcas.
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- - yes.
- 00:26:36.117 --> 00:26:37.085
- - or tabitha, depending on greek name,
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- What she did was acts of charity,
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- Including making clothes, which as someone who almost
- 00:26:43.191 --> 00:26:48.329
- Failed junior high because she couldn't get out of-- we had
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- To do a home was a home arc.
- 00:26:52.100 --> 00:26:53.935
- And true story, first married, i'm hemming my husband's
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- Pants, and i'm sitting on the bed.
- 00:26:58.506 --> 00:26:59.741
- We had a very small place we lived.
- 00:26:59.741 --> 00:27:01.910
- I stitched the hem to the bedsheets.
- 00:27:01.910 --> 00:27:05.346
- - that's what i thought you were going to say.
- 00:27:05.346 --> 00:27:06.681
- Pants attached to the bed.
- 00:27:06.681 --> 00:27:08.983
- - and from then on, my husband just has long pants.
- 00:27:08.983 --> 00:27:11.853
- You know what i mean?
- 00:27:11.853 --> 00:27:13.955
- They cover shoes.
- 00:27:13.955 --> 00:27:15.924
- So, i'm not a dorkus nor do i play one even on tv,
- 00:27:15.924 --> 00:27:20.595
- But she's raised from the dead.
- 00:27:20.595 --> 00:27:24.599
- That's what's so wonderful.
- 00:27:24.599 --> 00:27:27.302
- When peter learned, because they went to tell him,
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- The disciples to tell him about this fabulous woman who
- 00:27:30.572 --> 00:27:34.843
- Did acts of charity.
- 00:27:34.843 --> 00:27:36.644
- And some of the widows were showing peter the robes and
- 00:27:36.644 --> 00:27:40.181
- The clothes that she had made for them, and the lord,
- 00:27:40.181 --> 00:27:43.551
- Through peter, brought her back to life.
- 00:27:43.551 --> 00:27:46.087
- So, just to your point.
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- There's no small thing in the kingdom of god.
- 00:27:47.689 --> 00:27:51.860
- Obedience is everything.
- 00:27:51.860 --> 00:27:52.994
- Faithfulness is everything.
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- - thank you all for sending us in your questions.
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- We we're not talking smack when we say we're better
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- Together.
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- We are so grateful that you engage with us and you trust
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- Us, not just give you pat answers,
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- But to just lean into the lord together.
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- So, thank you for your honesty in these questions.
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- Marissa is from canada.
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- She's 25.
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- And she says, as a 25-year-old woman who's feeling a pull
- 00:28:21.890 --> 00:28:25.260
- Into direct church ministry, what advice would you give?
- 00:28:25.260 --> 00:28:27.695
- There are moments when i second guess my abilities,
- 00:28:27.695 --> 00:28:32.700
- And she said, insecurities creep in.
- 00:28:32.700 --> 00:28:35.270
- But marissa can't shake the pole she has for church
- 00:28:35.270 --> 00:28:37.772
- Ministry, for vocational ministry.
- 00:28:37.772 --> 00:28:41.843
- So, how would you encourage our little sister, marissa?
- 00:28:41.843 --> 00:28:44.846
- - first of all, i love that question so very much.
- 00:28:44.846 --> 00:28:46.414
- I dove into ministry at 21, and lord,
- 00:28:46.414 --> 00:28:50.051
- I probably still smelled at the club,
- 00:28:50.051 --> 00:28:51.419
- If we're just going to be honest.
- 00:28:51.419 --> 00:28:53.488
- I twerked my way right into ministry.
- 00:28:53.488 --> 00:28:55.223
- And honestly, i still have that heart and that posture.
- 00:28:55.223 --> 00:28:59.627
- Lord, why would you choose me?
- 00:28:59.627 --> 00:29:01.796
- Every day i wake up, i'm like, you sure?
- 00:29:01.796 --> 00:29:03.898
- Are you sure you playing around?
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- And i think i like that posture because it makes god
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- Bigger.
- 00:29:09.037 --> 00:29:09.971
- It makes him able to move in us.
- 00:29:09.971 --> 00:29:11.639
- And there's no need for us to be self-deprecating,
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- For us to not believe in what god has put on the inside of
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- Us.
- 00:29:16.945 --> 00:29:18.213
- But there is more fruit when we believe more god than our
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- Gifts.
- 00:29:22.951 --> 00:29:24.252
- And so, marissa, i would just say sit in that insecurity,
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- Process that with friends, process it with your
- 00:29:26.554 --> 00:29:29.057
- Counselor, figure out where it's coming from.
- 00:29:29.057 --> 00:29:30.959
- But i also would encourage you in this ministry walk never to
- 00:29:30.959 --> 00:29:34.896
- Try to be so secure that you've got it all figured out,
- 00:29:34.896 --> 00:29:37.298
- Unless you're operating from your own strength.
- 00:29:37.298 --> 00:29:38.766
- - that's right.
- 00:29:38.766 --> 00:29:39.434
- I totally agree with toni.
- 00:29:39.434 --> 00:29:40.835
- Don't trip over yourself being self-deprecating,
- 00:29:40.835 --> 00:29:43.872
- But remember, he's real clear in scripture that,
- 00:29:43.872 --> 00:29:47.542
- 1st corinthians 1, that he uses weak and foolish people
- 00:29:47.542 --> 00:29:50.378
- To illuminate his strength and his wisdom.
- 00:29:50.378 --> 00:29:53.681
- And then, look at the saints of scripture.
- 00:29:53.681 --> 00:29:58.086
- They were a hot mess.
- 00:29:58.086 --> 00:30:01.389
- Now that doesn't mean they stayed in sin.
- 00:30:01.389 --> 00:30:03.024
- - come on.
- 00:30:03.024 --> 00:30:04.158
- - they confessed their sin and they leaned into the
- 00:30:04.158 --> 00:30:07.362
- Redemptive reality of who god is.
- 00:30:07.362 --> 00:30:09.631
- And they were repentant.
- 00:30:09.631 --> 00:30:10.698
- And they walked in that that repentance,
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- They kept leaning toward the lord.
- 00:30:14.002 --> 00:30:15.336
- They never thought, oh, i don't need to confess anymore.
- 00:30:15.336 --> 00:30:17.739
- They stayed in the posture of humility and confession.
- 00:30:17.739 --> 00:30:20.408
- But he mostly used uneducated people that the world would
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- Not have picked.
- 00:30:24.212 --> 00:30:25.580
- - at all.
- 00:30:25.580 --> 00:30:26.781
- - they didn't look like the best and the brightest.
- 00:30:26.781 --> 00:30:28.049
- They were just the most yielded.
- 00:30:28.049 --> 00:30:29.784
- And they never forgot how desperate they were for god's
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- Grace.
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- So, model after the men and women of scripture.
- 00:30:34.322 --> 00:30:38.192
- Don't look to social media for who to model after.
- 00:30:38.192 --> 00:30:40.128
- - that's by fake by the way.
- 00:30:40.128 --> 00:30:42.463
- - a lot of filters up on there, baby.
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- 00:30:52.999 --> 00:30:56.778
- - dr. paul wright teaches in israel,
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- And i was in class with him one day,
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- And i had never thought about this,
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- But back to moses and the pharaoh and the beginning of
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- Exodus.
- 00:31:08.022 --> 00:31:09.090
- He said, if god wanted to raise up an empire,
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- He would've had moses stay in the pharaoh's court and grow
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- Up and become the next pharaoh.
- 00:31:15.229 --> 00:31:18.366
- But god was wanting to do something completely different
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- Than that.
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- Kingdom is not like empire.
- 00:31:23.304 --> 00:31:25.540
- - it's just not.
- 00:31:25.540 --> 00:31:26.607
- - and the ways that we think about authority,
- 00:31:26.607 --> 00:31:28.977
- Often it's almost back to the shalom scarcity thing.
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- I'm like, man, is this like worldly empire authority,
- 00:31:32.080 --> 00:31:36.351
- Or is this kingdom authority?
- 00:31:36.351 --> 00:31:38.853
- And that's been like a framing that's helped me.
- 00:31:38.953 --> 00:31:40.455
- I've never forgotten him saying that i was-- i remember
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- Just writing it down because i'd never had that thought,
- 00:31:42.857 --> 00:31:46.527
- Moses' life had he stayed in pharaoh's court,
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- Had he stayed in egypt and all of that.
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- - and every time you say kingdom and empower,
- 00:31:51.966 --> 00:31:54.002
- Because i always love that juxtaposition,
- 00:31:54.002 --> 00:31:56.504
- I always think with regards to women.
- 00:31:56.504 --> 00:31:59.607
- We've got to always see the difference between empowered
- 00:31:59.607 --> 00:32:03.411
- And enraged, because we live in a culture where there's a
- 00:32:03.411 --> 00:32:06.914
- Lot of women who are mad.
- 00:32:06.914 --> 00:32:09.984
- Because of some legitimate abuse,
- 00:32:09.984 --> 00:32:12.186
- Even within christian circles.
- 00:32:12.186 --> 00:32:13.654
- And i'm like, ooh, don't lead from a wound.
- 00:32:13.654 --> 00:32:15.757
- - i was about to say, go ahead and get--
- 00:32:15.757 --> 00:32:17.859
- - do not lead from a wound.
- 00:32:17.859 --> 00:32:18.926
- Go ahead and get angry and go to counseling.
- 00:32:18.926 --> 00:32:21.429
- You know what i mean?
- 00:32:21.429 --> 00:32:22.663
- - go to holy spirit and say temperaments.
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- - yes.
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- However you process emotion in community healthily, do that,
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- Because you take care of this so well,
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- You would never say stuff that emotion until the women who
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- Would--
- 00:32:38.546 --> 00:32:39.647
- - honey, i'll be in therapy till today i go to
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- Glory.
- 00:32:40.882 --> 00:32:42.116
- - that's what i know about you, which is why i'm like,
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- I think culture offers women historically two options that
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- Is to be enraged or to stuff it.
- 00:32:48.356 --> 00:32:50.691
- And the lord has never given us those two options.
- 00:32:50.691 --> 00:32:53.961
- Instead, he's like, bring those cares to me,
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- Because it's okay to be angry about things that are
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- Angering.
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- But like you said, you can't lead from that place.
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- I would encourage women to walk in authority and boldness
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- As they use their influence for god by being unafraid and
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- Offended.
- 00:33:14.382 --> 00:33:15.049
- It's this tight rope.
- 00:33:15.049 --> 00:33:17.118
- You know what i'm saying?
- 00:33:17.118 --> 00:33:18.419
- Where you are unafraid to do what the lord has asked you to
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- Do because you know that it is god who's in charge.
- 00:33:21.522 --> 00:33:24.158
- It's his best for you that he's communicating to you,
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- And he knows his people, and he is the one who called you
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- To be a blessing to his people.
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- But also unoffended, where things are going to happen as
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- Women in this world.
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- I don't think i know a corner of the world where women have
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- Not been marginalized at some point.
- 00:33:44.112 --> 00:33:46.380
- And so there will be things that are offensive.
- 00:33:46.380 --> 00:33:48.983
- It doesn't mean don't have emotions.
- 00:33:48.983 --> 00:33:50.751
- You will, probably at some point,
- 00:33:50.751 --> 00:33:53.121
- Be hurt or things might make you angry.
- 00:33:53.121 --> 00:33:56.190
- But living in a place without offense means that you get to
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- Move freely without carrying somebody else's ignorance,
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- If you think about it.
- 00:34:04.632 --> 00:34:05.933
- Holding onto a fence really ends up being you deciding to
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- Carry somebody else's ignorance.
- 00:34:09.504 --> 00:34:11.873
- And i just have no space for that.
- 00:34:11.873 --> 00:34:14.242
- And so i have to remind myself of that all the time.
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- Feel the hurt, feel the anger, process it in healthy
- 00:34:17.845 --> 00:34:20.781
- Community, but do not carry somebody else's baggage.
- 00:34:20.781 --> 00:34:24.118
- And at the same time, be unafraid and bold enough to
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- Walk into what the lord has called you to do.
- 00:34:27.488 --> 00:34:30.558
- I just think it's important for us to pause here for a
- 00:34:30.558 --> 00:34:32.693
- Second, because i think all too often,
- 00:34:32.693 --> 00:34:35.696
- Especially if you've been in a male dominated christian
- 00:34:35.696 --> 00:34:38.766
- Culture, the takeaway i got was my emotions are extra and
- 00:34:38.766 --> 00:34:44.739
- They're not biblical.
- 00:34:44.739 --> 00:34:46.073
- And i remember the first time i heard somebody really exude
- 00:34:46.073 --> 00:34:48.943
- At length, the woman with the issue of blood.
- 00:34:48.943 --> 00:34:52.013
- And it was just an epiphany to me to go, oh,
- 00:34:52.013 --> 00:34:55.616
- She's already healed, and then she tells jesus the whole
- 00:34:55.616 --> 00:35:00.621
- Story.
- 00:35:00.621 --> 00:35:01.689
- She's been suffering ostracize for 12 years.
- 00:35:01.689 --> 00:35:04.859
- She's physically healed.
- 00:35:04.859 --> 00:35:07.528
- Jesus is on his way to heal jairus' daughter.
- 00:35:07.528 --> 00:35:10.698
- And jairus is a player.
- 00:35:10.698 --> 00:35:12.333
- He lives in a gated community, drives a beamer.
- 00:35:12.333 --> 00:35:14.302
- So, it would've been politically expedient for
- 00:35:14.302 --> 00:35:16.938
- Jesus to say, well, you just send your message to somebody
- 00:35:16.938 --> 00:35:20.374
- Else.
- 00:35:20.374 --> 00:35:21.442
- There's a wjd table over there, get a bracelet,
- 00:35:21.442 --> 00:35:24.011
- Somebody will take your story and go on.
- 00:35:24.011 --> 00:35:27.281
- But he stops and he listens to 12 years of torment.
- 00:35:27.281 --> 00:35:32.720
- That had to be a long story.
- 00:35:32.720 --> 00:35:34.922
- In the meantime, his daughter dies and the miracle gets
- 00:35:34.922 --> 00:35:37.458
- Bigger.
- 00:35:37.458 --> 00:35:38.759
- But there is never one time that our savior in redemptive
- 00:35:38.759 --> 00:35:42.563
- Narrative says, stuff it.
- 00:35:42.563 --> 00:35:44.298
- - no.
- 00:35:44.298 --> 00:35:45.166
- - there's never one time he says,
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- Your emotions are extra to me.
- 00:35:46.300 --> 00:35:48.002
- All throughout his encounters, he invites everybody.
- 00:35:48.002 --> 00:35:51.405
- But certainly, the women who are subjugated by culture
- 00:35:51.405 --> 00:35:56.811
- Don't curate your emotions.
- 00:35:56.811 --> 00:35:58.246
- Don't stuff the messy parts.
- 00:35:58.246 --> 00:36:00.314
- Bring them to me.
- 00:36:00.314 --> 00:36:01.449
- I'd love for you all to talk about that for me,
- 00:36:01.449 --> 00:36:03.317
- Because i bet you a nickel.
- 00:36:03.317 --> 00:36:04.785
- One of our friends has been made to feel like your
- 00:36:04.785 --> 00:36:08.723
- Emotions aren't spiritual maturity.
- 00:36:08.723 --> 00:36:11.459
- And i'm like, that is not biblically defensible.
- 00:36:11.459 --> 00:36:14.362
- - this is what i was talking about when i referred to these
- 00:36:14.362 --> 00:36:16.931
- Two miracles that i see with lazarus and mary and martha
- 00:36:16.931 --> 00:36:21.469
- And this whole story, is that, i think about the moment
- 00:36:21.469 --> 00:36:25.473
- Where, first of all, jesus is coming back from a ministry
- 00:36:25.473 --> 00:36:28.309
- Trip and he's got these two sisters here.
- 00:36:28.309 --> 00:36:30.678
- Martha's a little bit more chill, mary mad for real.
- 00:36:30.678 --> 00:36:33.080
- And it's like this moment with my daughter.
- 00:36:33.080 --> 00:36:35.983
- She broke her little bike because she's not real
- 00:36:35.983 --> 00:36:37.852
- Coordinated, if we're just going to be honest here.
- 00:36:37.852 --> 00:36:40.655
- And she broke her bike trying to figure out how to do it.
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- And i'm on my way home.
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- I stop by target, i do a target pickup,
- 00:36:44.258 --> 00:36:46.327
- I get a new bike, it's in the trunk.
- 00:36:46.327 --> 00:36:48.129
- I get home and she's devastated.
- 00:36:48.129 --> 00:36:49.463
- Mom, did you know i broke my bike?
- 00:36:49.463 --> 00:36:51.432
- I really can't [indiscernible] and i'm kind of giddy because
- 00:36:51.432 --> 00:36:56.570
- I'm like, i've got a new bike in the trunk.
- 00:36:56.570 --> 00:37:00.074
- And the first thing that i want to do is to tell her
- 00:37:00.074 --> 00:37:03.678
- Like, wait, wait, wait.
- 00:37:03.678 --> 00:37:04.879
- You don't have to cry.
- 00:37:04.879 --> 00:37:06.113
- I've got the new bike.
- 00:37:06.113 --> 00:37:07.782
- Just like, girl, put them tears somewhere else.
- 00:37:07.782 --> 00:37:10.618
- And i just can't help but think that jesus knew that he
- 00:37:10.618 --> 00:37:13.654
- Would raise lazarus from the dead.
- 00:37:13.654 --> 00:37:14.989
- - of course.
- 00:37:14.989 --> 00:37:16.157
- - and he could have saved them some grief, honestly,
- 00:37:16.157 --> 00:37:18.626
- By just saying, hey, i'm here now.
- 00:37:18.626 --> 00:37:20.561
- First of all, he could have saved them some grief by
- 00:37:20.561 --> 00:37:22.630
- Coming a little earlier.
- 00:37:22.630 --> 00:37:23.898
- He could have saved them some grief by just saying like,
- 00:37:23.898 --> 00:37:27.101
- Hey, i got this.
- 00:37:27.101 --> 00:37:28.336
- And he tried to tell martha like,
- 00:37:28.336 --> 00:37:29.937
- This will not end in death.
- 00:37:29.937 --> 00:37:31.005
- And she's like, i know, i know.
- 00:37:31.005 --> 00:37:32.373
- It's going to be great.
- 00:37:32.373 --> 00:37:34.008
- He's like, no, truly.
- 00:37:34.008 --> 00:37:36.143
- I'm going to raise him from the dead,
- 00:37:36.143 --> 00:37:38.012
- And he only knows this information.
- 00:37:38.012 --> 00:37:39.947
- But with that information, he could have saved them grief.
- 00:37:39.947 --> 00:37:42.683
- And instead, he stopped to cry with them and to grieve the
- 00:37:42.683 --> 00:37:46.987
- Reality that even though i'm going to bring all things to
- 00:37:46.987 --> 00:37:51.625
- Redemption and glory, it's okay if we take a second to
- 00:37:51.625 --> 00:37:56.263
- Cry about what happened, that you did experience a loss.
- 00:37:56.263 --> 00:37:59.567
- And i am going to take this pain,
- 00:37:59.567 --> 00:38:01.502
- And i am not going to make it worth it,
- 00:38:01.502 --> 00:38:03.404
- But i will not waste it.
- 00:38:03.404 --> 00:38:04.905
- And that's jesus's care.
- 00:38:04.905 --> 00:38:07.575
- The living, breathing in human form.
- 00:38:07.575 --> 00:38:11.712
- Jesus, god of the universe saying, we have time to cry.
- 00:38:11.712 --> 00:38:16.217
- - that's right.
- 00:38:16.217 --> 00:38:17.051
- He's an empathetic high priest.
- 00:38:17.051 --> 00:38:19.153
- - yes.
- 00:38:19.153 --> 00:38:20.488
- And i'm like, why you all told us that we can't be crying out
- 00:38:20.488 --> 00:38:22.189
- Here?
- 00:38:22.189 --> 00:38:22.857
- That's weird.
- 00:38:22.857 --> 00:38:24.258
- - i think, as followers of jesus,
- 00:38:24.258 --> 00:38:25.826
- We're not trying to be less human.
- 00:38:25.826 --> 00:38:29.063
- - that's right.
- 00:38:29.063 --> 00:38:30.030
- - we're trying to be more fully human.
- 00:38:30.030 --> 00:38:32.833
- And, man, life has taught me when we stuff it,
- 00:38:32.833 --> 00:38:35.336
- It comes out sideways.
- 00:38:35.336 --> 00:38:36.537
- - that's right.
- 00:38:36.537 --> 00:38:37.204
- It's like working with it.
- 00:38:37.204 --> 00:38:38.372
- - it will come.
- 00:38:38.372 --> 00:38:39.473
- And you don't always get to control when it comes,
- 00:38:39.473 --> 00:38:41.475
- Because i even think about anger,
- 00:38:41.475 --> 00:38:43.043
- Something i learned in therapy, and i'm no therapist,
- 00:38:43.043 --> 00:38:45.946
- But anger's often a secondary emotion to fear.
- 00:38:45.946 --> 00:38:49.917
- And i remember my therapist saying, kristi,
- 00:38:49.917 --> 00:38:52.052
- When you feel angry, just start with the question,
- 00:38:52.052 --> 00:38:54.555
- What am i afraid of?
- 00:38:54.555 --> 00:38:55.589
- And that's been beneficial for me,
- 00:38:55.589 --> 00:38:57.958
- Because anger also provokes us onto all righteousness.
- 00:38:57.958 --> 00:39:01.228
- Anger serves its purpose.
- 00:39:01.228 --> 00:39:02.630
- Fear serves its purpose.
- 00:39:02.630 --> 00:39:04.799
- And i would just say as i've learned to welcome my emotions
- 00:39:04.799 --> 00:39:10.838
- And ask them to be bathed in the power of the holy spirit,
- 00:39:10.838 --> 00:39:15.209
- Understanding in the word of god,
- 00:39:15.209 --> 00:39:17.111
- Talked out with community.
- 00:39:17.111 --> 00:39:19.146
- It's like i've been getting more of me to give to the
- 00:39:19.146 --> 00:39:22.950
- World.
- 00:39:22.950 --> 00:39:23.651
- - that's right.
- 00:39:23.651 --> 00:39:24.952
- - i want more of me to give to the world, not less of me.
- 00:39:24.952 --> 00:39:29.056
- I'm back to, jochebed, what did that feel like?
- 00:39:29.056 --> 00:39:31.892
- What were you feeling when you put moses in the basket and
- 00:39:31.892 --> 00:39:35.663
- Placed him among the reeds in the nile?
- 00:39:35.663 --> 00:39:38.165
- I want to know that.
- 00:39:38.165 --> 00:39:39.467
- And i hope she's not going to be like, i just had faith.
- 00:39:39.467 --> 00:39:41.735
- I wasn't feeling anything.
- 00:39:41.735 --> 00:39:42.937
- I hope she does not say that to me.
- 00:39:42.937 --> 00:39:46.707
- - well, and the vulnerability, i remember giving birth to my
- 00:39:46.707 --> 00:39:50.244
- Second son by c-section, and so, i can't do anything.
- 00:39:50.244 --> 00:39:55.416
- I'm completely vulnerable at this point.
- 00:39:55.416 --> 00:39:57.785
- And because of blood pressure issues, i can't even hold him.
- 00:39:57.785 --> 00:40:01.088
- So, i'm depending on my husband to facilitate the
- 00:40:01.088 --> 00:40:03.724
- Moment so that the baby feels like, hey, you're in a family,
- 00:40:03.724 --> 00:40:06.460
- And we're not crazy, and you're loved.
- 00:40:06.460 --> 00:40:08.729
- But then, they go to do the apgar test,
- 00:40:08.729 --> 00:40:10.798
- And it's taken a minute for him to respond.
- 00:40:10.798 --> 00:40:13.801
- And in that moment, it's literally the longest moment
- 00:40:13.801 --> 00:40:16.437
- Of my life.
- 00:40:16.437 --> 00:40:17.438
- And ej has to tell me, everything's okay.
- 00:40:17.438 --> 00:40:20.708
- He's okay.
- 00:40:20.708 --> 00:40:22.743
- But because of that moment, i cannot even imagine
- 00:40:22.743 --> 00:40:26.146
- Facilitating myself, putting my kid in a vulnerable
- 00:40:26.146 --> 00:40:30.951
- Situation, and praying for the best.
- 00:40:30.951 --> 00:40:36.790
- That's a lot of faith, especially having given birth
- 00:40:36.790 --> 00:40:39.927
- Three months ago, what a vulnerable,
- 00:40:39.927 --> 00:40:41.829
- Emotionally raw time.
- 00:40:41.829 --> 00:40:44.131
- I was not with it enough, when either of my kids were three
- 00:40:44.131 --> 00:40:48.302
- Months old, to have that much faith to say,
- 00:40:48.302 --> 00:40:51.639
- I'm going to build this.
- 00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:53.307
- - come on.
- 00:40:53.307 --> 00:40:54.141
- - and the lord's going to do it.
- 00:40:54.141 --> 00:40:55.342
- - yes.
- 00:40:55.342 --> 00:40:56.010
- - so, that is a big deal.
- 00:40:56.010 --> 00:40:58.045
- - yes.
- 00:40:58.045 --> 00:40:59.346
- - well, and i wonder, just as i'm thinking about all that
- 00:40:59.346 --> 00:41:02.583
- We're talking about.
- 00:41:02.583 --> 00:41:04.318
- We are dividing our full self up into, this is body,
- 00:41:04.318 --> 00:41:10.257
- This is head, this is emotion.
- 00:41:10.257 --> 00:41:12.626
- But we are to love the lord our god with all our heart,
- 00:41:12.626 --> 00:41:16.630
- With all our soul.
- 00:41:16.630 --> 00:41:17.898
- Psuché, which is the whole body, that's the greek one.
- 00:41:17.898 --> 00:41:21.535
- All our mind, all our strengths.
- 00:41:21.535 --> 00:41:24.138
- So, to say emotions somehow are over here,
- 00:41:24.138 --> 00:41:29.043
- Means we aren't loving god to the fullest.
- 00:41:29.043 --> 00:41:31.712
- And this includes men and women.
- 00:41:31.712 --> 00:41:33.480
- So, i don't understand.
- 00:41:33.480 --> 00:41:36.116
- Well, i do understand, but i think it's funny or annoying.
- 00:41:36.116 --> 00:41:39.253
- - however you want to call it.
- 00:41:39.253 --> 00:41:41.255
- - yes, however you want to call it.
- 00:41:41.255 --> 00:41:44.158
- That there's permission, in a lot of ways,
- 00:41:44.158 --> 00:41:46.493
- For men to be angry at so many things.
- 00:41:46.493 --> 00:41:48.762
- That's not even seen as an actual emotion.
- 00:41:48.762 --> 00:41:51.432
- But we've been talking about women being angry,
- 00:41:51.432 --> 00:41:54.301
- And that is clearly an emotion,
- 00:41:54.301 --> 00:41:56.170
- And it's an off putting one.
- 00:41:56.170 --> 00:42:00.874
- Exactly.
- 00:42:00.874 --> 00:42:02.209
- And i'm thinking, okay, here, but let's go back to all of us
- 00:42:02.209 --> 00:42:05.579
- As disciples are to love the lord our god with all our
- 00:42:05.579 --> 00:42:08.549
- Heart, all our soul, all our mind, all our strength,
- 00:42:08.549 --> 00:42:11.085
- And our neighbor as ourselves.
- 00:42:11.085 --> 00:42:12.553
- We center back into that.
- 00:42:12.553 --> 00:42:15.990
- - emotions are in and of themselves indicators.
- 00:42:15.990 --> 00:42:19.293
- We don't want to let them run our lives,
- 00:42:19.293 --> 00:42:21.862
- But we do take the information that they bring to the
- 00:42:21.862 --> 00:42:24.398
- Surface.
- 00:42:24.398 --> 00:42:25.299
- And we ask the lord about that.
- 00:42:25.299 --> 00:42:27.134
- I think all emotions should go through the lord.
- 00:42:27.134 --> 00:42:29.937
- Like, ugh, lord, i'm feeling angry about that.
- 00:42:29.937 --> 00:42:32.573
- Can you help me see what is it that i care so much about that
- 00:42:32.573 --> 00:42:36.777
- It's making me angry, that i feel like it's being lost in
- 00:42:36.777 --> 00:42:39.480
- This situation?
- 00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:40.247
- Or, lord, i'm afraid of this.
- 00:42:40.247 --> 00:42:41.982
- What about this situation makes me so afraid?
- 00:42:41.982 --> 00:42:44.351
- And can you help me get past it?
- 00:42:44.351 --> 00:42:46.153
- Or, lord, this has me feeling shame.
- 00:42:46.153 --> 00:42:51.258
- Where does the shame come from?
- 00:42:51.258 --> 00:42:52.626
- Can you help me pass through that?
- 00:42:52.626 --> 00:42:54.461
- So, we have to deal with them by just bringing them before
- 00:42:54.461 --> 00:42:57.464
- The lord.
- 00:42:57.464 --> 00:42:58.332
- Sometimes it means in counseling,
- 00:42:58.332 --> 00:43:00.267
- Sometimes it's straight up with the holy spirit,
- 00:43:00.267 --> 00:43:02.436
- Which i have done many times.
- 00:43:02.436 --> 00:43:03.737
- I've asked the lord to help me save my coin.
- 00:43:03.737 --> 00:43:06.874
- Let's do it in between me and you jesus, and he has.
- 00:43:06.874 --> 00:43:10.444
- And then other times, he sent me to counseling,
- 00:43:10.444 --> 00:43:12.246
- Because he's like, we got a couple of boxes to unpack
- 00:43:12.246 --> 00:43:14.748
- Here.
- 00:43:14.748 --> 00:43:15.816
- So, that's how you do it practically, i think.
- 00:43:15.816 --> 00:43:19.153
- - and i think i just want to say to the watcher,
- 00:43:19.153 --> 00:43:21.255
- That's why you have to dive into the word with your full
- 00:43:21.255 --> 00:43:25.059
- Being.
- 00:43:25.059 --> 00:43:26.060
- Because to even think about how fragile,
- 00:43:26.060 --> 00:43:29.263
- How her hormones were all over the place at three months,
- 00:43:29.263 --> 00:43:32.466
- Postpartum.
- 00:43:32.466 --> 00:43:33.233
- - still nursing.
- 00:43:33.233 --> 00:43:34.368
- - oh, lord.
- 00:43:34.368 --> 00:43:36.370
- - still nursing.
- 00:43:36.370 --> 00:43:37.171
- - oh, my goodness.
- 00:43:37.171 --> 00:43:38.672
- - would you've nursed until four back then?
- 00:43:38.672 --> 00:43:40.874
- - yes.
- 00:43:40.874 --> 00:43:41.442
- - oh, my.
- 00:43:41.442 --> 00:43:42.409
- To sacrifice on that level as a mother.
- 00:43:42.409 --> 00:43:44.611
- - yes.
- 00:43:44.611 --> 00:43:46.680
- - i feel an overwhelming sense of gratitude.
- 00:43:46.680 --> 00:43:49.583
- Our ability to connect with our heavenly father,
- 00:43:49.583 --> 00:43:53.220
- This catalytic moment of sacrifice,
- 00:43:53.220 --> 00:43:56.724
- Three months postpartum is a part of that.
- 00:43:56.724 --> 00:44:00.194
- - yes.
- 00:44:00.194 --> 00:44:01.528
- - and if we can't honor that woman and what she did,
- 00:44:01.528 --> 00:44:06.700
- It's a slap in the face to the whole storyline of jesus,
- 00:44:06.700 --> 00:44:09.103
- Of the lord.
- 00:44:09.103 --> 00:44:10.370
- - and as i'm thinking about this, also the two midwives.
- 00:44:10.370 --> 00:44:15.275
- - yes.
- 00:44:15.275 --> 00:44:16.577
- - unfortunate names because we don't use them today for our
- 00:44:16.577 --> 00:44:22.149
- Own kids.
- 00:44:22.149 --> 00:44:23.417
- Otherwise, the story i think would be remembered a little
- 00:44:23.417 --> 00:44:25.018
- Bit more.
- 00:44:25.018 --> 00:44:26.053
- But these women told a mistruth,
- 00:44:26.053 --> 00:44:29.022
- I don't know how you want to say that.
- 00:44:29.022 --> 00:44:30.691
- - hebrew wives are vigorous.
- 00:44:30.691 --> 00:44:32.059
- - these hebrew women, man, they just cough it out.
- 00:44:32.059 --> 00:44:34.661
- Can't get there in time, but they saved the nation.
- 00:44:34.661 --> 00:44:39.333
- And at one level, we praise them.
- 00:44:39.333 --> 00:44:41.602
- Like exactly what you're saying, toni.
- 00:44:41.602 --> 00:44:43.337
- At the other level, i think, okay,
- 00:44:43.337 --> 00:44:44.705
- Is that something any of us could do?
- 00:44:44.705 --> 00:44:47.407
- I kind of think, in the power of the holy spirit,
- 00:44:47.407 --> 00:44:50.144
- It actually is.
- 00:44:50.144 --> 00:44:51.211
- And i was kind of thinking about,
- 00:44:51.211 --> 00:44:53.514
- Have there been moments where you've thought, well,
- 00:44:53.514 --> 00:44:57.217
- I can't do that.
- 00:44:57.217 --> 00:44:58.418
- And then, oh, my word.
- 00:44:58.418 --> 00:45:01.021
- Yes.
- 00:45:01.021 --> 00:45:02.623
- This is actually what god's calling me to do.
- 00:45:02.623 --> 00:45:04.258
- - he calls all of us to midwife miracles,
- 00:45:04.258 --> 00:45:07.561
- Don't you think?
- 00:45:07.561 --> 00:45:08.328
- - yes.
- 00:45:08.328 --> 00:45:09.596
- - and what's so amazing, and i may be incorrect on this,
- 00:45:09.596 --> 00:45:12.533
- Dr. cohick, but i read in a couple of commentaries that,
- 00:45:12.533 --> 00:45:15.302
- Traditionally, they were hebrew midwives.
- 00:45:15.302 --> 00:45:18.705
- Traditionally, the hebrew midwives in that ancient era
- 00:45:18.705 --> 00:45:22.075
- Were infertile.
- 00:45:22.075 --> 00:45:23.410
- And because of their faith, it says, god gave them families.
- 00:45:23.410 --> 00:45:27.815
- - that's right.
- 00:45:27.815 --> 00:45:28.582
- - you just see this belonging.
- 00:45:28.582 --> 00:45:31.318
- We may feel alone for the way other people have treated us.
- 00:45:31.318 --> 00:45:35.455
- We are never alone.
- 00:45:35.455 --> 00:45:37.524
- He is such a present encompassing god,
- 00:45:37.524 --> 00:45:41.995
- But i do think we're all called to midwife miracles.
- 00:45:41.995 --> 00:45:45.432
- - cs lewis, one of my favorite of the theologians.
- 00:45:45.432 --> 00:45:48.769
- I have a platonic crush on cs lewis.
- 00:45:48.769 --> 00:45:51.238
- I can't wait to meet him in heaven, but he talks,
- 00:45:51.238 --> 00:45:53.841
- And i'll massacre this quote, but the gist of what he says
- 00:45:53.841 --> 00:45:57.744
- Is, every single person we rub shoulders with is a divine
- 00:45:57.744 --> 00:46:03.350
- Being because we're made in god's image.
- 00:46:03.350 --> 00:46:06.620
- Every single one of us have an eternity.
- 00:46:06.620 --> 00:46:09.590
- Bible says, absent from the body, present with jesus.
- 00:46:09.590 --> 00:46:12.926
- If we die in our jar, clay body, our soul lives on.
- 00:46:12.926 --> 00:46:18.031
- And so, when you think about the people we get to rub
- 00:46:18.031 --> 00:46:21.468
- Shoulders with, goodness gracious.
- 00:46:21.468 --> 00:46:24.738
- We're rubbing shoulders with miracles.
- 00:46:24.738 --> 00:46:29.076
- And so, whatever age and stage of life you're in,
- 00:46:29.076 --> 00:46:32.946
- Whether you work from home, whether you actually manage a
- 00:46:32.946 --> 00:46:38.252
- Huge business, all of us get to midwife miracles every
- 00:46:38.252 --> 00:46:43.123
- Single day because the other image pairs we rub shoulders
- 00:46:43.123 --> 00:46:46.927
- With, that we see in the grocery store,
- 00:46:46.927 --> 00:46:49.630
- That we manage at work, that we have a cubicle next to,
- 00:46:49.630 --> 00:46:53.634
- That we worship with in church, they're miracles.
- 00:46:53.634 --> 00:46:58.071
- And we get to hear their stories.
- 00:46:58.071 --> 00:46:59.806
- We get to pray for them.
- 00:46:59.806 --> 00:47:01.041
- We get to metaphorically take a corner of their mat and
- 00:47:01.041 --> 00:47:04.077
- Carry them to the roof and lower them to jesus when
- 00:47:04.077 --> 00:47:06.079
- They've got a prodigal child or they're walking through a
- 00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:08.749
- Divorce.
- 00:47:08.749 --> 00:47:10.684
- So, every single day has the opportunity within it to
- 00:47:10.684 --> 00:47:15.122
- Midwife a miracle.
- 00:47:15.122 --> 00:47:18.191
- - there's an author, right now my brain can't bring her up.
- 00:47:18.191 --> 00:47:21.528
- Female author that talked about those five women,
- 00:47:21.528 --> 00:47:24.298
- The two midwives, miriam, jochebed,
- 00:47:24.298 --> 00:47:26.400
- And the pharaonic princess, they delivered the deliverer.
- 00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:32.139
- - wow.
- 00:47:32.139 --> 00:47:32.806
- - oh, that's so good.
- 00:47:32.806 --> 00:47:34.074
- - because moses is known as the deliverer of his people.
- 00:47:34.074 --> 00:47:35.575
- But five women delivered the deliverer.
- 00:47:35.575 --> 00:47:38.912
- I can't think of the author.
- 00:47:38.912 --> 00:47:40.480
- That's not my thought.
- 00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:41.548
- That's a perfect place to-- - don't feel like,
- 00:47:41.548 --> 00:47:44.918
- I know you're going to pray on the way out,
- 00:47:44.918 --> 00:47:46.820
- But i just kind almost felt my spirit catch,
- 00:47:46.820 --> 00:47:52.759
- Because i think there's some women who my gut would say,
- 00:47:52.759 --> 00:47:56.263
- Who feel like they're infertile,
- 00:47:56.263 --> 00:47:58.665
- Maybe not biologically, and really god is entrusting them
- 00:47:58.665 --> 00:48:02.302
- With a miracle to midwife.
- 00:48:02.302 --> 00:48:03.837
- So, they're not the bit player in the story.
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- He's going to use them to deliver a deliverer this
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- Season.
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- I thought, we need to pray for them,
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- For the people who feel like i don't count in my own story.
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- - yes.
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- Thank you jesus.
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- Heavenly father, we are so grateful for the stories of
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- Your saints that are in scripture as we see you work
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- In and through their lives to bring your people out of
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- Bondage and into freedom, and we claim that as a truth for
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- Us today.
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- Lord, we lift up all of your faithful servants around the
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- Globe who are hearing your call and are doing what you're
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- Asking them to do.
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- There are no small parts in your drama, lord.
- 00:48:51.418 --> 00:48:54.488
- Each and every one of us have an important role to play in
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- Obedience.
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- We just leave the results to you,
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- For your honor and your glory.
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- We ask that you would, for those still wondering even
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- What part they play, lord, would you reveal to them their
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- Purpose, their calling, their next step.
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- For those in the midst of a tough season, lord,
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- Would you grace them with perseverance?
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- And for those who are comfortable and moving along,
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- Lord, would you continue to empower them and let them
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- Never rest on their own strength,
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- But always rely on your strength.
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- We ask all of this in the powerful name of our lord and
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- Savior jesus christ.
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- Amen.
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- - amen.
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- Team can pray for you.
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- - it's not about our capacity, it's not about our giftedness.
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- It's actually about our desperation.
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- If you recognize i need jesus, i can't make it by myself,
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- And you walk in light of the truth that he knows everything
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- About us, nothing in our lives is hidden from him,
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- And he loves us unconditionally.
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- That's all the competence you need.
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- Tell your story.
- 00:50:15.469 --> 00:50:16.903
- It's just like the blind man in the gospels.
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- The pharisees tried to trip him up and ask him theology,
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- And he said, i don't know.
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- I don't know how to talk about that.
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- All i know is i was blind.
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- I met jesus.
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- I encountered the messiah, now i can see.
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- That's our story.
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- How has jesus transformed the trajectory of your life?
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- If he actually has changed your life,
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- That's all the confidence you need.
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