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Better Together | Seeing God When Seasons Change - Episode 1111 | November 3, 2025
- - scripture tells us there's a time and a season for
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- Everything.
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- Seeing god when seasons change can help us stay present and
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- Learn all that he has for us right now.
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- Come on, let's talk about it.
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- ♪ (music playing) ♪
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- - there's some verses in the bible, you know, ecclesiastes
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- 3, most of us would know them.
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- You know, it starts out saying there's a time for everything
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- And a season for every, i think one translation says, a
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- Season for every activity under heaven.
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- So when i look at that, it means that there's a right
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- Time for something and a wrong time for something, right?
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- And then it lists all these at time to's, right?
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- A time to be born, a time to die, time to plan, a time to
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- Weep, a time to laugh, castaway stones, a time to
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- Fight, refrain from fighting.
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- Although i might lean more toward the fighting parts over
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- Refrain.
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- But it lists all these time to's.
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- And so for me, it makes me think that we're like, you
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- Know, trapped in the realities between those two extremes.
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- And i think that's life on planet earth, right?
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- And yet, at the end of all those the time to's, it says
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- That he's put eternity in our heart.
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- So while we feel trapped, there's this longing in us for
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- Something that's beyond that.
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- And so i started just even thinking about how this verse
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- Might relate just to my life.
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- And, you know, philip and i pastored a church in los
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- Angeles for 35 years.
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- And, you know, we birthed that baby, you know, in home bible
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- Study and went through all of the, you know, had our kids
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- While we were doing that.
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- We gave our life to building a church in a very secular city.
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- It was an urban city.
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- This was, everybody else was running for the suburbs and
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- Certainly not in l.a., and we hunkered down and built the
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- Church in los angeles.
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- And so gave our life to do that.
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- And then a few years ago, we just realized that it was time
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- To hand it over to the next generation.
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- You know after 35 years it was time for somebody else,
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- Another couple to take it and lead.
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- And i think it sounded so good and it is good sometimes
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- People hold on too long to things they need to let go and
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- I'm sure that will be our conversation we talk about so
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- We handed it off and it was fine until i realized that was
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- Such a change and realized that had been my identity.
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- That had been what i'd done for so long.
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- And now i'm in this new season.
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- And the season, there's weeping and joy all in the
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- Same moment, right?
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- Because there's joy, because it was the right thing, and
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- I'm excited, and i mean, and they're crushing it.
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- They're doing great.
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- But then there's just sad because this was what i had
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- Known.
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- Right.
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- This was where i was.
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- And so i think sometimes when we are stepping into something
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- New, when a change is happening, i don't know.
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- And we instigated it, sometimes change we instigate
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- You tend to like more.
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- Nobody appreciates change that you inflict on you but you
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- Like it more but still.
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- And still, there was just that tension between the time to's,
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- And it was the right thing it was the right time to.
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- Right?
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- And still there was all the emotions that come with
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- Change.
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- I had to navigate some of that.
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- And the good thing, like it freed me up, and there was
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- Always things that were desires in my heart that i
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- Wanted to do and accomplish that now i feel like i can,
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- That i didn't have the time to when i was doing the day in
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- And day out of leading a church.
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- So there's great things that have come out of that.
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- But man, for the first few months after that, it was
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- Tricky for me.
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- Yeah.
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- It was tricky just kind of navigating a change that
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- Philip and i instigated.
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- Right?
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- - change can come a variety of ways.
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- Sometimes it's because of decisions we make.
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- Sometimes it's what god allows.
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- But what i have learned to see over time is that god weaves
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- Things together for our good.
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- That's the truth of romans 8:28.
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- It doesn't always feel good when you're in the middle of
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- It, but if you get past it and you choose to believe that,
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- When you look back at it, you can see god's hand.
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- Sometimes it takes a week, sometimes it takes a year,
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- Sometimes it takes a decade.
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- But the question is that i always ask myself anyway,
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- Where was god?
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- Where is god in my story?
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- And if i look and believe i find him, i always do.
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- - it's interesting when you talk about something you and
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- Philip both knew, it was the right time.
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- But there's still this shift.
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- You suddenly wake up the next morning and you're not the
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- Pastor of, da, da, da, da.
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- And for me, it was a different kind of thing because i was, i
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- Co-hosted the 700 club for five years.
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- And then my life kind of crashed, and i ended up in a
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- Hospital.
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- And, i actually remember the psychiatrist saying to me, who
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- Are you?
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- And i said, i'm the co-host of the 700 club.
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- And he said, no.
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- That's not who you are.
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- That's what you do.
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- And he said, so who are you?
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- And i said, i don't know.
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- And he said, i know that.
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- And that's why you're here.
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- And it was so interesting because rather than, i mean, i
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- Was there for a month, but rather than going back into
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- Business as usual, i thought, you know what, lord, i went to
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- Seminary when i was 19, and consciously to learn
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- Everything i need to do to make sure you never stop
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- Loving me.
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- Because i really thought god's love was transactional.
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- Because my father had loved me and then didn't love me,
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- Apparently.
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- So i thought the same could apply to god.
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- Wow.
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- I thought, no.
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- And so i actually went back to seminary and i'm gonna write
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- Down everything that you've already done, you know.
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- But it was still this huge shift of, you know, waking up,
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- Knowing where i'm going, a salary, a position, all this
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- Stuff, suddenly that was all gone.
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- But it actually was really good for me, because it made
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- Me feel like it's just me, you know, here we go, lord.
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- Let's start all over.
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- - you know, that, in the end of that portion in
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- Ecclesiastes, it says, i think, in verse 11, it says
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- That he's made everything beautiful in its time.
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- And one translation of that verse says, basically, beauty
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- Takes time.
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- And so a life that's beautiful, it actually takes
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- All of the seasons.
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- I mean, i want to focus on the left side of that, a time to
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- Laugh, a time to be born, a time to you know, i like all
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- Those.
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- But a beautiful life takes, it takes all of them.
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- It takes the change that comes from laughing to weeping.
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- And, ugh, i just don't like that, though.
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- Sometimes we might be, like, overwhelmed with whatever
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- Season that we're in the middle of, and so we just want
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- To get through it fast.
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- We want to rush through it.
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- And i understand that feeling.
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- It's you know, when i was navigating cancer and i was
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- Dealing with radiation, i just wanted to get through that
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- Season.
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- And and understandably, who wants to deal with that and at
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- The same time i realized i was in that season that the people
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- I got to care for and love on and pray for were in that
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- Radiation waiting room, so it was the tension between trying to
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- Rush through something and yet being alert and awake to the
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- Season that i'm in right now, because here i am, so might as
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- Well love these people.
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- And so i just want to caution you.
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- I know you might be in the middle of a hard season, but
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- Why don't you just pray and ask god for wisdom?
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- Like what?
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- And he says he'll give it to us freely.
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- That's what it says in the book of james, right?
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- He'll give it to us freely.
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- And so maybe ask him for, you know, wisdom, for how to
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- Navigate this season, or is there anything that you need
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- To learn while you're here?
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- Because it will change.
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- This season will change.
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- And so i just want to make sure we get from the season
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- That you get from the season what you need to get from it
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- So don't rush through it, let's just ask god what we
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- Need to learn as we're navigating.
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- - i was listening to both of you it was drudging up all
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- These memories because over the last year i have navigated
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- A pretty significant transition in my own life.
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- And, you know, i've been in executive leadership at some
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- Really large companies for the last, like, 20 years, and the
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- Lord called me away.
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- Now, here's the thing.
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- I knew maybe two years ago that that season was over.
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- Like, i knew that the lord was calling me into ministry in a
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- Very vocational way.
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- - how did you know?
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- Like, how did you know?
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- - oh, well, it was, it was a sense that, and again, it's
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- Just, it was a sense that i had done all that i could do.
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- So you'd finished, like, it was almost, like, i had
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- Finished.
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- - yeah, it was like, i found myself kind of lifting out of
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- One organization into another organization, and it was
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- Basically like a copy-paste situation, you know?
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- It's like i wasn't learning new things.
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- I wasn't being stretched.
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- It was basically just porting what i did in this season to
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- Another season, well, the lord called me away.
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- And i remember when i was very, when i was very sure
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- That that whole part of my life was over, the first
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- Question that popped up in my mind was, but if i'm not an
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- Executive, what am i?
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- You know, if i'm not the chief of this, if i'm not, you know,
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- Senior vp of that, like, what am i?
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- And as i reflect over this last year, i realize now,
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- Because the first few months of it was very disconcerting,
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- Very disconcerting.
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- I mean, i didn't have meetings.
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- I didn't have reports.
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- You know, i didn't have all these big projects that i was
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- Stewarding.
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- I didn't have all of that.
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- It was literally just me.
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- And so i found myself creating work for myself because i...
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- - that was comfortable.
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- It was comfortable.
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- It was familiar.
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- And as i sit here, you know, a year later, i realized that
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- The lord was not calling me away from a job.
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- He was literally calling me away from an identity.
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- And the thing about seasons changing and you both kinda
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- Mentioned this.
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- What i realize now is when the lord changes a season he isn't
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- Just changing your vocation he isn't just changing your title
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- He is changing your identity so we cannot take your old
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- Identity into a new season.
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- And it made me think about moses.
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- I was actually as we were having this conversation, when
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- The lord called moses, when he called him, it says in exodus
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- Chapter 4, verse 10, he's going back and forth with god,
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- And he's like, you got the wrong guy, right?
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- So he says to god, he says, pardon your servant, lord, i
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- Have never been eloquent, neither in the past, nor since
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- You have spoken to your servant, i am slow of speech
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- And tongue.
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- And the lord said to him, who gave human beings their
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- Mouths?
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- Who makes them deaf or mute?
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- Who gives them sight or makes them blind?
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- Is it not i, the lord?
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- Now go.
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- I will help you speak and will teach you what to say.
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- I think what caused moses to question what god was calling
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- Him to is who he had been in the past.
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- And i think that is what limits us from being able to
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- Change, is our understanding of who we are in the past,
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- What we were not able to do in the past.
- 00:11:26.865 --> 00:11:29.534
- But when god calls us to a new season, he gives us exactly
- 00:11:29.534 --> 00:11:32.070
- What we need for the new season, and we have to trust
- 00:11:32.070 --> 00:11:35.373
- Him.
- 00:11:35.373 --> 00:11:36.441
- And so i just want to encourage anyone who's
- 00:11:36.441 --> 00:11:38.076
- Navigating a season now where you're like, i just don't feel
- 00:11:38.076 --> 00:11:40.779
- Equipped for this season.
- 00:11:40.779 --> 00:11:41.846
- It's okay.
- 00:11:41.846 --> 00:11:42.914
- - and the old season wasn't wrong.
- 00:11:42.914 --> 00:11:45.316
- Right.
- 00:11:45.316 --> 00:11:46.651
- Sometimes i think that's what people do is so then they step
- 00:11:46.651 --> 00:11:48.586
- Into something new and they go, oh, because that was bad.
- 00:11:48.586 --> 00:11:51.890
- No, no, no.
- 00:11:51.890 --> 00:11:52.590
- It got you here.
- 00:11:52.590 --> 00:11:53.792
- Absolutely.
- 00:11:53.792 --> 00:11:54.759
- There's something in it.
- 00:11:54.759 --> 00:11:56.227
- - i think of it in terms of assignments.
- 00:11:56.227 --> 00:11:58.096
- I know in a transition that my husband and i went through, it
- 00:11:58.096 --> 00:12:00.398
- Was so helpful for me when i started thinking in terms of,
- 00:12:00.398 --> 00:12:04.302
- If you think of a student going to a classroom where a
- 00:12:04.302 --> 00:12:08.273
- Teacher gives an assignment and you go home and you do the
- 00:12:08.273 --> 00:12:12.110
- Assignment, you turn the assignment in, and you're not
- 00:12:12.110 --> 00:12:14.712
- Finished, but you also don't redo that assignment.
- 00:12:14.712 --> 00:12:17.916
- You get a new assignment.
- 00:12:17.916 --> 00:12:19.417
- And when i thought of that in kingdom terms, that some
- 00:12:19.417 --> 00:12:22.487
- Assignments are short.
- 00:12:22.487 --> 00:12:24.823
- Ours was 20 years long.
- 00:12:24.823 --> 00:12:26.591
- I mean, you don't know the different times of the
- 00:12:26.591 --> 00:12:28.660
- Assignment, but when it's time to turn that assignment in, if
- 00:12:28.660 --> 00:12:31.396
- You will, the joy there is understanding that you always
- 00:12:31.396 --> 00:12:34.966
- Get a new assignment.
- 00:12:34.966 --> 00:12:36.234
- And if you can see it that way, that assignment was great
- 00:12:36.234 --> 00:12:39.304
- For the time, but it's also great when that time ends and
- 00:12:39.304 --> 00:12:44.676
- You get a new one.
- 00:12:44.676 --> 00:12:46.711
- And it's because god has a new thing for you.
- 00:12:46.711 --> 00:12:50.215
- We always, sometimes, i don't want to say always, but
- 00:12:50.215 --> 00:12:55.019
- Oftentimes we're so aware of what we've lost that it's hard
- 00:12:55.019 --> 00:12:58.223
- For us to really embrace what we're gaining.
- 00:12:58.223 --> 00:13:00.658
- Because it's familiar to us, you know.
- 00:13:00.658 --> 00:13:03.361
- And even what i was hearing you guys say, some of the
- 00:13:03.361 --> 00:13:07.599
- Biggest shift, i think, for people, is because rhythm gets
- 00:13:07.599 --> 00:13:10.735
- Off.
- 00:13:10.735 --> 00:13:12.036
- You've been in a rhythm for so long.
- 00:13:12.036 --> 00:13:14.305
- So, yes, it is your identity, but it's also just your
- 00:13:14.305 --> 00:13:16.241
- Comfortability of the rhythm you're living.
- 00:13:16.241 --> 00:13:18.409
- It's the life you were living.
- 00:13:18.409 --> 00:13:20.044
- Yes.
- 00:13:20.044 --> 00:13:21.346
- And sometimes whatever your new assignment is creates new
- 00:13:21.346 --> 00:13:22.313
- Rhythms that feel uncomfortable.
- 00:13:22.313 --> 00:13:24.716
- Yeah.
- 00:13:24.716 --> 00:13:26.017
- And it's getting more familiar and comfortable with living
- 00:13:26.017 --> 00:13:27.952
- With new rhythms.
- 00:13:27.952 --> 00:13:29.287
- - you might feel as if you're kind of stuck in a season.
- 00:13:29.287 --> 00:13:32.724
- You know, you watch other people getting new
- 00:13:32.724 --> 00:13:35.260
- Opportunities or stepping into new things, and you feel like
- 00:13:35.260 --> 00:13:38.229
- You've just been doing the same thing kind of over and
- 00:13:38.229 --> 00:13:40.598
- Over and over again.
- 00:13:40.598 --> 00:13:42.000
- When i've been in a season like that, one of the things
- 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:44.736
- The lord has taught me is just to stay faithful in that until
- 00:13:44.736 --> 00:13:48.339
- The lord opens another door.
- 00:13:48.339 --> 00:13:50.041
- And sometimes it takes longer than we think, but when you
- 00:13:50.041 --> 00:13:52.877
- Trust god's timing, his timing is perfect.
- 00:13:52.877 --> 00:13:55.380
- So even though it might seem like you're waiting for a
- 00:13:55.380 --> 00:13:59.183
- While, wait with him.
- 00:13:59.183 --> 00:14:00.518
- - listen, if you are thinking you've wasted a season or
- 00:14:00.518 --> 00:14:06.457
- Seasons and have ignored the lessons god has been trying to
- 00:14:06.457 --> 00:14:09.994
- Teach you, the good thing is we quote it all the time in
- 00:14:09.994 --> 00:14:13.698
- Church, but it's so true.
- 00:14:13.698 --> 00:14:14.866
- Romans 8:28, he uses all things to work together for
- 00:14:14.866 --> 00:14:17.735
- The good of those who love god.
- 00:14:17.735 --> 00:14:20.038
- And if you have wasted seasons like, let's not pretend that
- 00:14:20.038 --> 00:14:23.174
- That's not the truth.
- 00:14:23.174 --> 00:14:24.676
- But then use that as fuel to be super intentional in the
- 00:14:24.676 --> 00:14:28.012
- Season that you're in.
- 00:14:28.012 --> 00:14:30.548
- If you've fallen behind in a race, you don't give up.
- 00:14:30.548 --> 00:14:32.417
- You just run faster, run with more intentionality and more
- 00:14:32.417 --> 00:14:35.620
- Focus in the season that you're in.
- 00:14:35.620 --> 00:14:37.789
- So know that god can use everything, even failures, to
- 00:14:37.789 --> 00:14:40.391
- Accomplish his purposes in the world and in your life.
- 00:14:40.391 --> 00:14:44.362
- And don't think that because you haven't done it right in
- 00:14:44.362 --> 00:14:46.798
- The past, that that is an indicator of what god can do
- 00:14:46.798 --> 00:14:49.467
- With your present and your future.
- 00:14:49.467 --> 00:14:50.969
- Lean in, love god, be intentional.
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- Start today and move forward.
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- - i remember at one point being almost angry with god
- 00:15:14.359 --> 00:15:17.992
- - i remember at one point being almost angry with god
- 00:15:17.992 --> 00:15:23.135
- Because i was thinking about what i lost.
- 00:15:23.135 --> 00:15:28.507
- I was like, but the prestige and the resources and you got
- 00:15:28.507 --> 00:15:33.679
- The paycheck and you got the team, you got the whole thing.
- 00:15:33.679 --> 00:15:36.382
- The resume.
- 00:15:36.382 --> 00:15:38.450
- I was angry.
- 00:15:38.450 --> 00:15:39.752
- And the lord basically took me to the verse where it talks
- 00:15:39.752 --> 00:15:41.286
- About blessed are those who mourn for they will be
- 00:15:41.286 --> 00:15:43.789
- Comforted and he said no there's a difference between
- 00:15:43.789 --> 00:15:46.558
- Grieving and mourning.
- 00:15:46.558 --> 00:15:47.760
- He said right now you're grieving which means you're
- 00:15:47.760 --> 00:15:49.762
- Looking at what you lost, which makes you angry, he said
- 00:15:49.762 --> 00:15:52.164
- Mourning however you still have a sense of loss but
- 00:15:52.164 --> 00:15:57.669
- There's also gratitude for what you had.
- 00:15:57.669 --> 00:15:59.171
- And i was not taking inventory of the goodness of god in the
- 00:15:59.171 --> 00:16:03.142
- Previous season.
- 00:16:03.142 --> 00:16:05.444
- So i wasn't mourning.
- 00:16:05.444 --> 00:16:07.980
- I was grieving.
- 00:16:07.980 --> 00:16:09.248
- And he said, nona, when you get to the place that you're
- 00:16:09.248 --> 00:16:10.516
- Actually thankful for what i did in the previous season,
- 00:16:10.516 --> 00:16:13.052
- You will still mourn the loss.
- 00:16:13.052 --> 00:16:16.121
- But there won't be the anger.
- 00:16:16.121 --> 00:16:17.456
- There won't be the bitterness.
- 00:16:17.456 --> 00:16:19.792
- There won't be the, why did you do this?
- 00:16:19.792 --> 00:16:20.926
- Like, why?
- 00:16:20.926 --> 00:16:21.827
- And i think that really freed me.
- 00:16:21.827 --> 00:16:23.195
- And i was able to then begin mourning what was lost as
- 00:16:23.195 --> 00:16:25.764
- Opposed to being angry.
- 00:16:25.764 --> 00:16:28.200
- I think gratitude is so important for all the reasons
- 00:16:28.200 --> 00:16:32.271
- That we know right, for one we are told in the word to be
- 00:16:32.271 --> 00:16:35.707
- Grateful but i want to just give a different perspective
- 00:16:35.707 --> 00:16:39.311
- That imagine that in a day you have so many thoughts in a day
- 00:16:39.311 --> 00:16:44.750
- And your thoughts are going to be filled with something good,
- 00:16:44.750 --> 00:16:48.854
- Bad, we even talked in the show that the majority of the
- 00:16:48.854 --> 00:16:52.257
- Thoughts we have if we're not conscious of it could be
- 00:16:52.257 --> 00:16:55.227
- Negative imagine you go through the whole day and
- 00:16:55.227 --> 00:16:58.063
- Those are going to be filled with something.
- 00:16:58.063 --> 00:16:59.765
- If you do not choose gratitude, i do believe that
- 00:16:59.765 --> 00:17:06.138
- The default of human nature is to fill those thoughts every
- 00:17:06.138 --> 00:17:08.740
- Day with something negative.
- 00:17:08.740 --> 00:17:09.942
- So i want to encourage you and it's not just because
- 00:17:09.942 --> 00:17:12.778
- We're told to in the bible, but there is a quota of
- 00:17:12.778 --> 00:17:15.581
- Thoughts that you have all day that is a non-negotiable you
- 00:17:15.581 --> 00:17:19.952
- Do not go through your day not thinking.
- 00:17:19.952 --> 00:17:24.490
- So if you're going to be thinking i want to encourage
- 00:17:24.490 --> 00:17:26.125
- You to make sure those thoughts are full of
- 00:17:26.125 --> 00:17:28.327
- Gratitude.
- 00:17:28.327 --> 00:17:29.628
- - dharius daniels i love him, i love listening to him, he
- 00:17:29.628 --> 00:17:32.931
- Has an entire teaching on mastering the art of exits
- 00:17:32.931 --> 00:17:37.503
- And so much of mastering the art of exits is about that.
- 00:17:37.503 --> 00:17:40.639
- One of the things you have to master to make your exits
- 00:17:40.639 --> 00:17:44.042
- Well, knowing that exits are going to be a part of life.
- 00:17:44.042 --> 00:17:47.146
- Just if entrances are, then exits are.
- 00:17:47.146 --> 00:17:49.114
- - we want the entrance, but not the exit.
- 00:17:49.114 --> 00:17:50.549
- - that's right.
- 00:17:50.549 --> 00:17:52.017
- And gratitude.
- 00:17:52.017 --> 00:17:53.218
- Gratitude is one of the greatest things you have to
- 00:17:53.218 --> 00:17:55.020
- Master when you exit is being so grateful for what god did
- 00:17:55.020 --> 00:18:00.225
- In that season.
- 00:18:00.225 --> 00:18:02.227
- And sometimes we start telling ourselves that because a
- 00:18:02.227 --> 00:18:06.665
- Season ends, either we've fallen out of favor or we've
- 00:18:06.665 --> 00:18:10.369
- Done something wrong or something that- there's a
- 00:18:10.369 --> 00:18:13.105
- Reason.
- 00:18:13.105 --> 00:18:14.306
- There can't ever just be, well, no, a season ends.
- 00:18:14.306 --> 00:18:16.675
- Even though we live, our human experience is in seasons.
- 00:18:16.675 --> 00:18:20.245
- So we know that seasons change.
- 00:18:20.245 --> 00:18:23.115
- Yet when ours change, we think, well, what did i do
- 00:18:23.115 --> 00:18:25.450
- Wrong or why does god's favor left me?
- 00:18:25.450 --> 00:18:27.920
- That kind of thing.
- 00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:28.987
- - don't you think we have to like normalize?
- 00:18:28.987 --> 00:18:30.055
- We have to normalize transitions and change.
- 00:18:30.055 --> 00:18:30.722
- Right.
- 00:18:30.722 --> 00:18:32.758
- Normalize it.
- 00:18:32.758 --> 00:18:34.026
- I just remember even leading a staff, leading a team, you
- 00:18:34.026 --> 00:18:36.228
- Know, people would get all freaked out or bothered when
- 00:18:36.228 --> 00:18:38.697
- Somebody's gonna leave the team and move across the
- 00:18:38.697 --> 00:18:41.133
- Country and then they're like, no, this is normal.
- 00:18:41.133 --> 00:18:43.869
- It's like normalizing change and transition.
- 00:18:43.869 --> 00:18:46.538
- So then when it happens, we're not shocked, although i find
- 00:18:46.538 --> 00:18:49.942
- Ourselves always shocked.
- 00:18:49.942 --> 00:18:51.276
- Now, you probably never had to navigate change.
- 00:18:51.276 --> 00:18:53.879
- Ever, ever.
- 00:18:53.879 --> 00:18:54.780
- Never, ever.
- 00:18:54.780 --> 00:18:56.415
- - no, i think, i love what you were saying because i, you
- 00:18:56.415 --> 00:18:59.251
- Know, in our conversation about the seasons, it is
- 00:18:59.251 --> 00:19:01.520
- Normalized.
- 00:19:01.520 --> 00:19:02.454
- Yeah.
- 00:19:02.454 --> 00:19:03.789
- And so we expect it.
- 00:19:03.789 --> 00:19:06.225
- In fact, everything that we're saying mimics the calendar the
- 00:19:06.225 --> 00:19:08.794
- Way it works.
- 00:19:08.794 --> 00:19:10.462
- We cannot wait in the heat of summer for it to start to cool
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- Off.
- 00:19:12.631 --> 00:19:14.533
- And then it cools all the way off and we can't wait for it
- 00:19:14.533 --> 00:19:15.934
- To start to warm up.
- 00:19:15.934 --> 00:19:17.102
- And then we get into the spring and we're like, oh my
- 00:19:17.102 --> 00:19:19.037
- Gosh, when will it stop raining?
- 00:19:19.037 --> 00:19:20.372
- I mean, there's always-we were glad for it to come, and then
- 00:19:20.372 --> 00:19:24.343
- We get into it, and we can't wait for it to be over.
- 00:19:24.343 --> 00:19:26.845
- And if you live your life hoping that the last season
- 00:19:26.845 --> 00:19:32.417
- Ends, only to get into the new season, to hope that that
- 00:19:32.417 --> 00:19:36.521
- Season ends, this is how people get to the end of their
- 00:19:36.521 --> 00:19:39.124
- Life and realize that it all went fast.
- 00:19:39.124 --> 00:19:41.393
- So you engage in each season, choosing to show gratitude and
- 00:19:41.393 --> 00:19:45.697
- Enjoying what the season holds because this season won't
- 00:19:45.697 --> 00:19:49.134
- Last.
- 00:19:49.134 --> 00:19:50.435
- I mean, we all know that, you know, when you, and you
- 00:19:50.435 --> 00:19:52.704
- Probably have heard someone say to you and you're raising
- 00:19:52.704 --> 00:19:55.774
- Your kids, they're like, enjoy it.
- 00:19:55.774 --> 00:19:57.909
- You know, the days are long, but the years are short.
- 00:19:57.909 --> 00:20:00.312
- And when you're in it, you want to slap whoever says it.
- 00:20:00.312 --> 00:20:03.315
- You know what i'm saying?
- 00:20:03.315 --> 00:20:05.751
- And then you realize, oh, the days are long and the years
- 00:20:05.751 --> 00:20:08.954
- Are...
- 00:20:08.954 --> 00:20:10.188
- And there's a realization where we're always behind the
- 00:20:10.188 --> 00:20:12.824
- Eight ball in our natural enjoyment and appreciation for
- 00:20:12.824 --> 00:20:18.897
- The season that we're in.
- 00:20:18.897 --> 00:20:22.367
- So it takes gratitude, it takes intentionality to kind
- 00:20:22.367 --> 00:20:25.504
- Of double down and seeing what there is to be seen,
- 00:20:25.504 --> 00:20:29.775
- Appreciating what there is to appreciate, and learning that
- 00:20:29.775 --> 00:20:32.311
- This is just the way it goes.
- 00:20:32.311 --> 00:20:33.979
- I think, you know, when you mentioned moses, you know, the
- 00:20:33.979 --> 00:20:38.617
- Bible talks in exodus 3 and 4 about his struggle of
- 00:20:38.617 --> 00:20:40.419
- Insecurity.
- 00:20:40.419 --> 00:20:42.554
- And, you know, who me?
- 00:20:42.554 --> 00:20:43.388
- I can't do that.
- 00:20:43.388 --> 00:20:45.357
- And later on in the new testament, the bible speaks
- 00:20:45.357 --> 00:20:46.792
- Very clearly about how he was eloquent and he did command
- 00:20:46.792 --> 00:20:50.295
- The space.
- 00:20:50.295 --> 00:20:53.398
- So either god saw something in him that he did not see or god
- 00:20:53.398 --> 00:20:57.069
- Developed something in him that was a seed.
- 00:20:57.069 --> 00:20:59.938
- Either way, god always sees in a future season something that
- 00:20:59.938 --> 00:21:04.076
- We don't see in our current season.
- 00:21:04.076 --> 00:21:06.078
- - so i want you to think about the way god uses change this
- 00:21:06.078 --> 00:21:08.814
- Way.
- 00:21:08.814 --> 00:21:10.949
- If you were to sit with your legs crossed, and let's just
- 00:21:10.949 --> 00:21:13.985
- Say you sit that way for, i don't know, five or six
- 00:21:13.985 --> 00:21:16.488
- Minutes, there's going to come a point where you're going to
- 00:21:16.488 --> 00:21:20.625
- Feel some discomfort and that's going to cause you to
- 00:21:20.625 --> 00:21:24.262
- Change position.
- 00:21:24.262 --> 00:21:27.065
- Discomfort is what god uses to cause us to change position in
- 00:21:27.065 --> 00:21:32.971
- The natural, and he uses that discomfort as almost like a
- 00:21:32.971 --> 00:21:37.776
- Signal that something has to change.
- 00:21:37.776 --> 00:21:39.778
- So i often tell people when you feel that sense of being
- 00:21:39.778 --> 00:21:43.081
- Unsettled don't forsake that because the lord is speaking
- 00:21:43.081 --> 00:21:46.585
- Through it.
- 00:21:46.585 --> 00:21:49.988
- - the israelites weren't grateful.
- 00:21:49.988 --> 00:21:54.059
- And, you know, they left and they were like, how are we
- 00:21:54.059 --> 00:21:55.293
- Going to eat?
- 00:21:55.293 --> 00:21:56.528
- And then god gave them men, and they were like, but we
- 00:21:56.528 --> 00:21:57.062
- Missed the leaks.
- 00:21:57.062 --> 00:21:57.829
- Right.
- 00:21:57.829 --> 00:21:59.030
- You know, and then god gave them quail and then our
- 00:21:59.030 --> 00:21:59.931
- Stomachs are upset.
- 00:21:59.931 --> 00:22:01.199
- I mean, we have mastered the art because we are imperfect
- 00:22:01.199 --> 00:22:05.404
- Creatures of being unappreciative and ungrateful,
- 00:22:05.404 --> 00:22:09.574
- Which lends us to not appreciating the season that
- 00:22:09.574 --> 00:22:12.544
- We're in.
- 00:22:12.544 --> 00:22:13.512
- So it is all about reframing.
- 00:22:13.512 --> 00:22:15.814
- It's all about learning to reframe in the current season
- 00:22:15.814 --> 00:22:17.282
- So you can see what there is to be seen.
- 00:22:17.282 --> 00:22:19.551
- So when you were talking about people in your life, i mean,
- 00:22:19.551 --> 00:22:23.855
- Yes, it is devastating.
- 00:22:23.855 --> 00:22:26.291
- I remember i read it on twitter that's now x or, you
- 00:22:26.291 --> 00:22:32.063
- Know, whatever we call it, i still call it twitter.
- 00:22:32.063 --> 00:22:33.465
- But i don't know who this pastor was, but he made the
- 00:22:33.465 --> 00:22:35.233
- Statement that he was exiting the ministry, he said, because
- 00:22:35.233 --> 00:22:39.137
- Of how painful it was to have to keep receiving people and
- 00:22:39.137 --> 00:22:42.207
- Giving them your whole heart to only have to release them
- 00:22:42.207 --> 00:22:45.610
- And say goodbye.
- 00:22:45.610 --> 00:22:48.380
- He said it is, he said, nobody talks about how painful and
- 00:22:48.380 --> 00:22:51.049
- How raw my heart is from having to do this over and
- 00:22:51.049 --> 00:22:53.752
- Over and over again.
- 00:22:53.752 --> 00:22:56.922
- For years.
- 00:22:56.922 --> 00:23:00.025
- They come into the church, you give them your whole heart,
- 00:22:58.723 --> 00:23:01.059
- And then they leave sometimes disgruntled.
- 00:23:01.059 --> 00:23:02.727
- The church isn't meeting my needs.
- 00:23:02.727 --> 00:23:04.496
- You know, there's some people factor, whatever it is.
- 00:23:04.496 --> 00:23:08.300
- He said, i just over and over it, he said, and i can't take
- 00:23:08.300 --> 00:23:09.401
- The ongoing grief of the change of the seaons.
- 00:23:09.401 --> 00:23:12.938
- He said, i just can't take it.
- 00:23:12.938 --> 00:23:15.073
- And i've been thinking about what that looks like in my own
- 00:23:15.073 --> 00:23:17.309
- Life because i think whether it's people that i have the
- 00:23:17.309 --> 00:23:20.312
- Opportunity to work with in ministry or even my children
- 00:23:20.312 --> 00:23:22.380
- As they leave and they go or relationships that end.
- 00:23:22.380 --> 00:23:25.851
- And i thought, you know, we were going to be in it
- 00:23:25.851 --> 00:23:28.453
- Forever.
- 00:23:28.453 --> 00:23:29.688
- The grieving and the morning, both shades of that, that
- 00:23:29.688 --> 00:23:32.924
- Happened in my own life.
- 00:23:32.924 --> 00:23:34.092
- But there's a level of acceptance that i have learned
- 00:23:34.092 --> 00:23:37.629
- To have and even with people as they come and go, to look
- 00:23:37.629 --> 00:23:43.301
- At them when they walk in the door and to be able to say to
- 00:23:43.301 --> 00:23:45.937
- Them as i say to my children, i don't know how long you'll
- 00:23:45.937 --> 00:23:48.206
- Be here but for the time that you're here let's talk about
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- How we can the most out of this, how this is good for
- 00:23:52.978 --> 00:23:56.982
- You, how this is good for me.
- 00:23:56.982 --> 00:23:58.350
- It's the, you know, the conversation i have with my
- 00:23:58.350 --> 00:24:00.285
- Kids.
- 00:24:00.285 --> 00:24:02.254
- Like, the seasons are changing and learning how to recognize
- 00:24:02.254 --> 00:24:03.321
- The seasons are changing.
- 00:24:03.321 --> 00:24:04.589
- The thing that has helped me to kind of connect with many
- 00:24:04.589 --> 00:24:07.726
- Of the things we've been talking about is to realize
- 00:24:07.726 --> 00:24:10.762
- That if i feel disconnected from a season, if i feel
- 00:24:10.762 --> 00:24:13.098
- Disconnected from a person, if i'm feeling lament and loss,
- 00:24:13.098 --> 00:24:16.468
- It's to check my attachment.
- 00:24:16.468 --> 00:24:18.970
- And i'm thinking about john 15 when the bible says, i'm the
- 00:24:18.970 --> 00:24:22.307
- Vine, you're the branches.
- 00:24:22.307 --> 00:24:24.042
- If i am feeling disconnected, which is a lot of times what
- 00:24:24.042 --> 00:24:26.845
- The season change is, it's a sense of disconnection, okay,
- 00:24:26.845 --> 00:24:29.414
- Can i check my connection to the lord?
- 00:24:29.414 --> 00:24:32.450
- Because every season is designed to take me from glory
- 00:24:32.450 --> 00:24:35.387
- To glory and every season is designed for me to become more
- 00:24:35.387 --> 00:24:37.989
- Like christ.
- 00:24:37.989 --> 00:24:39.658
- So if i'm feeling that loss, where am i needing attachment?
- 00:24:39.658 --> 00:24:43.628
- Good.
- 00:24:43.628 --> 00:24:45.564
- So that i am getting my sense of connection and consistency
- 00:24:45.564 --> 00:24:48.466
- From the one who i will be connected to forever because
- 00:24:48.466 --> 00:24:50.869
- Eternity is in our hearts.
- 00:24:50.869 --> 00:24:53.438
- - i think one of the things has helped me recognize god's
- 00:24:53.438 --> 00:24:56.174
- Hand in seasons of change is simply looking back a little
- 00:24:56.174 --> 00:24:58.910
- Bit.
- 00:24:58.910 --> 00:25:02.013
- Because even when i go back to my childhood and all the years
- 00:25:02.013 --> 00:25:03.782
- Since i've been in relationship with the lord, i
- 00:25:03.782 --> 00:25:08.587
- See that god's hand shows up in ways that surprised me at
- 00:25:08.587 --> 00:25:10.755
- Times, ways where the timing was not expected.
- 00:25:10.755 --> 00:25:13.391
- But the one thing that i could tell you, absolutely, is that
- 00:25:13.391 --> 00:25:18.797
- God has been faithful.
- 00:25:18.797 --> 00:25:20.098
- And i know that if god shows up once, god is going to show
- 00:25:20.098 --> 00:25:22.767
- Up again.
- 00:25:22.767 --> 00:25:24.369
- - and then the question would be to also ask, have i made an
- 00:25:24.369 --> 00:25:25.870
- Attachment to the person or the job or the whatever too
- 00:25:25.870 --> 00:25:30.008
- Much, that that maybe was an idol in my heart?
- 00:25:30.008 --> 00:25:33.244
- - because you're here.
- 00:25:33.244 --> 00:25:34.713
- I can touch you, i can see you.
- 00:25:34.713 --> 00:25:37.449
- The situation is easy.
- 00:25:37.449 --> 00:25:38.817
- And so when the situation of the person is gone, it's like,
- 00:25:38.817 --> 00:25:40.051
- Oh, where was i building in that way?
- 00:25:40.051 --> 00:25:42.220
- - there was this movie that came out, maybe 20 years ago
- 00:25:42.220 --> 00:25:45.090
- Or so called click.
- 00:25:45.090 --> 00:25:48.526
- And the lead actor was given this remote that whenever
- 00:25:48.526 --> 00:25:52.497
- Things got uncomfortable, do you remember this?
- 00:25:52.497 --> 00:25:56.501
- He could fast forward it.
- 00:25:56.501 --> 00:25:57.802
- He could fast-forward through it.
- 00:25:57.802 --> 00:25:59.504
- And so at first, it was just a hard season.
- 00:25:59.504 --> 00:26:03.008
- But then he started doing it more and more and more.
- 00:26:03.008 --> 00:26:06.344
- So that he was fast-forwarding.
- 00:26:06.344 --> 00:26:08.179
- And so while he's busy fast-forwarding, then he's
- 00:26:08.179 --> 00:26:11.049
- Present, but not present with people.
- 00:26:11.049 --> 00:26:13.184
- And so by the end of his life, everybody around him said, i
- 00:26:13.184 --> 00:26:17.555
- Never felt like you were here.
- 00:26:17.555 --> 00:26:19.991
- You were present with us.
- 00:26:19.991 --> 00:26:22.894
- And so i started thinking.
- 00:26:22.894 --> 00:26:23.728
- He was always somewhere else.
- 00:26:23.728 --> 00:26:24.696
- He was always going ahead.
- 00:26:24.696 --> 00:26:25.730
- Because it was a season that that was hard.
- 00:26:25.730 --> 00:26:28.266
- And i started thinking, hello, childbirth.
- 00:26:28.266 --> 00:26:29.367
- Wouldn't you like to go on?
- 00:26:29.367 --> 00:26:30.669
- Just get to the end or, you know, cancer diagnosis or you
- 00:26:30.669 --> 00:26:35.440
- Want to just quick get to the end of it.
- 00:26:35.440 --> 00:26:37.575
- But if we believe that like a life of beauty takes all the
- 00:26:37.575 --> 00:26:39.878
- Seasons, then it's what you said, it's being present in
- 00:26:39.878 --> 00:26:41.646
- All the seasons.
- 00:26:41.646 --> 00:26:44.082
- - well, there was a study done i don't know how many years
- 00:26:44.082 --> 00:26:48.887
- Ago this was, but it found that so we have about 12,000
- 00:26:48.887 --> 00:26:51.823
- Thoughts a day if not more.
- 00:26:51.823 --> 00:26:53.258
- And at least 85% of those thoughts are negative and they
- 00:26:53.258 --> 00:27:01.766
- Are consumed either with a past we cannot change or a
- 00:27:01.766 --> 00:27:05.336
- Future we don't control.
- 00:27:05.336 --> 00:27:08.540
- And so we don't live our lives in the present and what's
- 00:27:08.540 --> 00:27:13.978
- Amazing is all we have is now.
- 00:27:13.978 --> 00:27:16.548
- This moment is all we have and i was thinking about as you
- 00:27:16.548 --> 00:27:19.584
- Were talking about attachment, attachment is really about
- 00:27:19.584 --> 00:27:22.687
- Grounding because when you are connected to something it's in
- 00:27:22.687 --> 00:27:29.527
- The moment and when i think about the lord and our
- 00:27:29.527 --> 00:27:33.098
- Connection to god, when we are truly grounded in the lord,
- 00:27:33.098 --> 00:27:36.334
- It's like he calls us to the moment because we can only
- 00:27:36.334 --> 00:27:39.137
- Represent him in the moment.
- 00:27:39.137 --> 00:27:42.173
- We can only minister to someone in the moment, when we
- 00:27:42.173 --> 00:27:44.576
- Pray we are praying in the moment, studying in the moment
- 00:27:44.576 --> 00:27:46.678
- All we have is the moment.
- 00:27:46.678 --> 00:27:48.613
- We can't change the past you can't change the future, all
- 00:27:48.613 --> 00:27:51.282
- You can do is shape the future in the present and you can
- 00:27:51.282 --> 00:27:55.320
- Affect the past in the present.
- 00:27:55.320 --> 00:27:58.256
- But even that requires the grace of god.
- 00:27:58.256 --> 00:28:00.692
- - that is so good so just how many times have you like,
- 00:28:00.692 --> 00:28:04.162
- Heard a song, and it takes you back.
- 00:28:04.162 --> 00:28:07.332
- Yes, yes.
- 00:28:07.332 --> 00:28:08.566
- Right, it takes you back to the moment that isn't now.
- 00:28:08.566 --> 00:28:10.769
- Right.
- 00:28:10.769 --> 00:28:11.936
- So you just reminded me, okay, so 20 years ago, i was
- 00:28:11.936 --> 00:28:14.572
- Diagnosed with breast cancer, right?
- 00:28:14.572 --> 00:28:16.207
- So i began that journey.
- 00:28:16.207 --> 00:28:18.343
- And recently, i had just a checkup, just a regular
- 00:28:18.343 --> 00:28:21.446
- Oncology checkup, and i go in to that room.
- 00:28:21.446 --> 00:28:24.783
- Wow.
- 00:28:24.783 --> 00:28:28.586
- I smell the smells, and i was taken, and i'm fine, i'm fine,
- 00:28:28.586 --> 00:28:30.088
- But it just like took me back.
- 00:28:30.088 --> 00:28:36.194
- Sometimes guys, perhaps more, you know, they relive their
- 00:28:36.194 --> 00:28:39.697
- High school days.
- 00:28:39.697 --> 00:28:41.533
- If they hadn't blown out their knee, that'd be a professional
- 00:28:41.533 --> 00:28:42.867
- Advocate or whatever.
- 00:28:42.867 --> 00:28:45.370
- And so then they have like the big statue or trophy, reliving
- 00:28:45.370 --> 00:28:47.338
- A day that isn't today.
- 00:28:47.338 --> 00:28:48.807
- Okay, so in 1979, some of you watching weren't born, pipe
- 00:28:48.807 --> 00:28:55.246
- Down.
- 00:28:55.246 --> 00:28:56.114
- So i won, like, a beauty pageant.
- 00:28:56.114 --> 00:28:57.949
- Not surprising.
- 00:28:57.949 --> 00:29:00.285
- I know.
- 00:29:00.285 --> 00:29:00.919
- - can i see the wave?
- 00:29:00.919 --> 00:29:01.786
- Do you have a wave?
- 00:29:01.786 --> 00:29:02.821
- - i love that.
- 00:29:02.821 --> 00:29:03.822
- World peace.
- 00:29:03.822 --> 00:29:04.622
- I was dared, yeah, world peace.
- 00:29:04.622 --> 00:29:07.025
- I was dared to enter it.
- 00:29:07.025 --> 00:29:08.726
- So anyway, it was a long story.
- 00:29:08.726 --> 00:29:10.428
- But i won this.
- 00:29:10.428 --> 00:29:12.297
- But how weird would it be?
- 00:29:12.297 --> 00:29:14.799
- And it was fun.
- 00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:15.400
- I enjoyed the year.
- 00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:16.401
- It was like, and i'm done with all that.
- 00:29:16.401 --> 00:29:17.936
- But how weird would it be if today i showed up with crown
- 00:29:17.936 --> 00:29:19.904
- And my banner for you know 40 years later as if it's that
- 00:29:19.904 --> 00:29:23.541
- Normal but how many times do we do that that just reminded
- 00:29:23.541 --> 00:29:27.812
- Me we bring yeah.
- 00:29:27.812 --> 00:29:29.681
- - we can see it in other people because if you showed
- 00:29:29.681 --> 00:29:32.450
- Up with a crown and a and banner we'd be like holly we'd
- 00:29:32.450 --> 00:29:34.819
- Be like girl let it go you're like if you are in a season of
- 00:29:34.819 --> 00:29:38.122
- Your life and you were trying to dress like you're 18 people
- 00:29:38.122 --> 00:29:40.792
- Will look at you and be like what does she do yeah so we
- 00:29:40.792 --> 00:29:43.895
- Can recognize it in other people.
- 00:29:43.895 --> 00:29:46.664
- Yes, but it's hard to recognize.
- 00:29:46.664 --> 00:29:47.866
- Yes.
- 00:29:47.866 --> 00:29:49.167
- - but when we hold on to that, what we do, and this is the
- 00:29:49.167 --> 00:29:51.135
- Heartbreaking part of it, and it gets back to identity, when
- 00:29:51.135 --> 00:29:54.706
- We hold on to who we were, we actually can't lay hold of who
- 00:29:54.706 --> 00:29:58.576
- God is calling us to be.
- 00:29:58.576 --> 00:29:59.711
- Yes.
- 00:29:59.711 --> 00:30:01.846
- No, you're right.
- 00:30:00.979 --> 00:30:03.181
- Who we are to become is always connected to who we are in the
- 00:30:03.181 --> 00:30:05.350
- Moment.
- 00:30:05.350 --> 00:30:06.651
- So you can't even become what god is calling you to if you
- 00:30:06.651 --> 00:30:09.721
- Are not already who he has called you to be.
- 00:30:09.721 --> 00:30:11.923
- And i think that's where we, that's where, again, that's
- 00:30:11.923 --> 00:30:15.860
- The enemy's playground, is to make you think, well, if you
- 00:30:15.860 --> 00:30:19.130
- Were still the co-host of the 700 club, then you would
- 00:30:19.130 --> 00:30:22.000
- Matter.
- 00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:23.234
- And so now you're grieving because that is what gave me
- 00:30:23.234 --> 00:30:26.638
- Identity and worth, not recognizing that god released
- 00:30:26.638 --> 00:30:28.539
- You from that because there's something else he's calling
- 00:30:28.539 --> 00:30:31.743
- You to, which is equally, if not more significant.
- 00:30:31.743 --> 00:30:34.646
- Because think about it, i mean, the lives that you've
- 00:30:34.646 --> 00:30:37.015
- Touched, that the people who have found hope because of
- 00:30:37.015 --> 00:30:40.685
- What god took you through had nothing to do with you
- 00:30:40.685 --> 00:30:44.589
- Cohosting the 700 club.
- 00:30:44.589 --> 00:30:45.823
- Because you didn't fast forward through a season that
- 00:30:45.823 --> 00:30:47.892
- Was horrible.
- 00:30:47.892 --> 00:30:50.028
- You walked through the season so god was able to create
- 00:30:50.028 --> 00:30:52.897
- Something in you that now became a platform for other
- 00:30:52.897 --> 00:30:54.532
- Peoples' healing.
- 00:30:54.532 --> 00:30:55.833
- But imagine if you would've said but i was the co-host of
- 00:30:55.833 --> 00:30:57.235
- The 700 club and you never stepped into that new
- 00:30:57.235 --> 00:30:59.203
- Identity.
- 00:30:59.203 --> 00:31:00.972
- - it's so, so good, nona, because i remember the last,
- 00:31:00.972 --> 00:31:04.442
- Very last day when you check out of a psych hospital, i've
- 00:31:04.442 --> 00:31:07.378
- Been there for a month, my doctor called out of his
- 00:31:07.378 --> 00:31:10.815
- Office window.
- 00:31:10.815 --> 00:31:12.083
- I'm walking back to my car, got my car keys back, i'm an
- 00:31:12.083 --> 00:31:13.985
- Adult again.
- 00:31:13.985 --> 00:31:15.720
- And he said to me, sheila, and i turned around and he said,
- 00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:19.190
- Who are you?
- 00:31:19.190 --> 00:31:20.792
- I said, i'm a daughter of the king.
- 00:31:20.792 --> 00:31:22.493
- It was just this, and that sounds like a very easy thing
- 00:31:22.493 --> 00:31:25.730
- To say it, but it was a huge thing for me because growing
- 00:31:25.730 --> 00:31:27.832
- Up, if you wanted to be- in my heart if you wanted to be
- 00:31:27.832 --> 00:31:31.035
- Significant for god you were in ministry.
- 00:31:31.035 --> 00:31:32.804
- Because i was brought up in the baptist church that was
- 00:31:32.804 --> 00:31:34.272
- Very traditional, i couldn't be a pastor, so my only choice
- 00:31:34.272 --> 00:31:36.307
- Was to be a missionary so that's why i went to seminary.
- 00:31:36.307 --> 00:31:38.710
- To train to be a missionary in india.
- 00:31:38.710 --> 00:31:40.678
- Because then i would be full time work, i would be in
- 00:31:40.678 --> 00:31:47.418
- Ministry and god would love me.
- 00:31:47.418 --> 00:31:48.586
- And when everything fell apart, and i was finally, i
- 00:31:48.586 --> 00:31:52.056
- Came to a place of realizing, if i work in walmart, i'm in
- 00:31:52.056 --> 00:31:56.394
- Ministry.
- 00:31:56.394 --> 00:31:58.029
- It doesn't matter anymore.
- 00:31:58.029 --> 00:31:59.263
- There was this sense of, you know, you talk a lot about
- 00:31:59.263 --> 00:32:02.900
- Identity.
- 00:32:02.900 --> 00:32:03.601
- It's huge.
- 00:32:03.601 --> 00:32:04.302
- It's everything.
- 00:32:04.302 --> 00:32:06.404
- Yeah, it absolutely is.
- 00:32:06.404 --> 00:32:07.605
- Because even it's like it's not enough for me to be
- 00:32:07.605 --> 00:32:09.240
- Christian's mom or barry's wife.
- 00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:11.509
- Any of those things can shift in a moment.
- 00:32:11.509 --> 00:32:14.245
- Things can change.
- 00:32:14.245 --> 00:32:15.446
- People can be gone.
- 00:32:15.446 --> 00:32:16.748
- But who i am, when you have eternity written all over your
- 00:32:16.748 --> 00:32:19.984
- Heart, is something that just keeps you taking the next step
- 00:32:19.984 --> 00:32:22.720
- Into the next season and not being afraid.
- 00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:24.689
- - and that, see, that's the part that helps you navigate
- 00:32:24.689 --> 00:32:30.161
- The change of the season because god doesn't change.
- 00:32:30.161 --> 00:32:31.796
- Right.
- 00:32:31.796 --> 00:32:33.464
- So the season may change.
- 00:32:33.464 --> 00:32:34.866
- - i prayed that this morning in the car.
- 00:32:34.866 --> 00:32:37.168
- I'm coming here and i'm like, lord, here's one of my
- 00:32:37.168 --> 00:32:38.870
- Problems.
- 00:32:38.870 --> 00:32:39.871
- I change all the time, and you never do.
- 00:32:39.871 --> 00:32:42.240
- And i just want to pause here on the way to the studio
- 00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:45.243
- Before i get to better together and say, thank you,
- 00:32:45.243 --> 00:32:48.046
- You never change.
- 00:32:48.046 --> 00:32:49.847
- And i'm still in a place where i'm thinking, i think god
- 00:32:49.847 --> 00:32:52.850
- Thought i did better yesterday than i did the day before.
- 00:32:52.850 --> 00:32:55.453
- And i'm like, god is not like that.
- 00:32:55.453 --> 00:32:58.256
- You know, the way that we try and project onto god,
- 00:32:58.256 --> 00:33:01.192
- Significance, personal based on what kind of day we
- 00:33:01.192 --> 00:33:04.862
- Had, as opposed to just...
- 00:33:04.862 --> 00:33:07.799
- I mean, i just...
- 00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:10.001
- I had a moment in my car.
- 00:33:10.001 --> 00:33:10.902
- I was just like, i could just...
- 00:33:10.902 --> 00:33:12.103
- - you're having church in your car.
- 00:33:12.103 --> 00:33:12.703
- - yes!
- 00:33:12.703 --> 00:33:13.905
- I wonder how much of our time is spent, thinking about
- 00:33:13.905 --> 00:33:17.275
- Things that happened in the past that we wish we could
- 00:33:17.275 --> 00:33:20.378
- Change and thinking about things that might happen in
- 00:33:20.378 --> 00:33:22.847
- The future that we have no control over.
- 00:33:22.847 --> 00:33:24.849
- One of the things that god is teaching me, and i say
- 00:33:24.849 --> 00:33:27.952
- Teaching me, because it's taking time, is to really be
- 00:33:27.952 --> 00:33:30.021
- Present, to really live in the present moment.
- 00:33:30.021 --> 00:33:33.057
- I love the fact that when jesus was teaching his friends
- 00:33:33.057 --> 00:33:36.227
- To pray he said give us this day our daily bread, not our
- 00:33:36.227 --> 00:33:39.931
- Weekly bread, or monthly bread, give us our daily
- 00:33:39.931 --> 00:33:43.101
- Bread.
- 00:33:43.101 --> 00:33:44.602
- So as much as you can try to live in the moment and see god
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- - can we just speak to that tension that some women feel
- 00:34:00.918 --> 00:34:02.992
- - can we just speak to that tension that some women feel
- 00:34:02.992 --> 00:34:08.392
- When, you know, watching others move forward into a new
- 00:34:08.392 --> 00:34:11.863
- Season and they feel stuck?
- 00:34:11.863 --> 00:34:13.965
- Yeah, that's real.
- 00:34:13.965 --> 00:34:15.366
- That's very real.
- 00:34:15.366 --> 00:34:16.400
- Right.
- 00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:17.602
- So somebody else is stepping into a new season, you're
- 00:34:17.602 --> 00:34:18.836
- Like, i've been in this season forever.
- 00:34:18.836 --> 00:34:20.438
- It's called comparison.
- 00:34:20.438 --> 00:34:22.173
- Yeah, comparison.
- 00:34:22.173 --> 00:34:23.407
- So why don't we talk about that?
- 00:34:23.407 --> 00:34:24.675
- One of the revelations the lord gave me about identity is
- 00:34:24.675 --> 00:34:26.277
- That insecurity we tend to think insecurity is about low
- 00:34:26.277 --> 00:34:29.780
- Self-esteem.
- 00:34:29.780 --> 00:34:31.048
- So what we do is say these positive affirmations you know
- 00:34:31.048 --> 00:34:34.018
- I'm good enough, i'm smart enough, people like me.
- 00:34:34.018 --> 00:34:36.020
- And we say these things thinking that is going to
- 00:34:36.020 --> 00:34:38.222
- Somehow you know change how we feel, but insecurity is not
- 00:34:38.222 --> 00:34:41.659
- About low self-esteem.
- 00:34:41.659 --> 00:34:43.661
- It's about what your identity is secured to.
- 00:34:43.661 --> 00:34:45.696
- And so if you are looking at everyone else and what they're
- 00:34:45.696 --> 00:34:49.167
- Doing and the applause that they're getting and the likes
- 00:34:49.167 --> 00:34:51.903
- That they're getting on their posts and all those things,
- 00:34:51.903 --> 00:34:55.039
- You will start to feel like you're less than, which is why
- 00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:58.709
- You have to always check what is my identity secured to?
- 00:34:58.709 --> 00:35:02.613
- Is it secured to who god says i am?
- 00:35:02.613 --> 00:35:05.049
- Yeah.
- 00:35:05.049 --> 00:35:06.284
- Or is it secured to the affirmation of man?
- 00:35:06.284 --> 00:35:07.985
- Because that changes.
- 00:35:07.985 --> 00:35:09.120
- You can be the best thing since sliced bread.
- 00:35:09.120 --> 00:35:11.222
- People can be inviting you to all the exclusive events.
- 00:35:11.222 --> 00:35:13.958
- You can get invited to all the big platforms one day.
- 00:35:13.958 --> 00:35:16.160
- And then the next day, they're like, whatever happened to
- 00:35:16.160 --> 00:35:18.529
- Nona jones, i remember her from what ever happened to
- 00:35:18.529 --> 00:35:20.665
- Her?
- 00:35:20.665 --> 00:35:22.166
- But if you don't know who you are, that's right.
- 00:35:22.166 --> 00:35:24.535
- I'm telling you, it doesn't matter what everybody else is
- 00:35:24.535 --> 00:35:27.705
- Doing.
- 00:35:27.705 --> 00:35:28.906
- You're going to always feel like you're not enough.
- 00:35:28.906 --> 00:35:30.341
- - let me first tell you, if you find yourself comparing
- 00:35:30.341 --> 00:35:33.911
- Yourself to other people when it seems like they're winning.
- 00:35:33.911 --> 00:35:36.547
- It seems like they're in just an amazing season and it feels
- 00:35:36.547 --> 00:35:41.419
- Like you have lost or that things aren't going the way
- 00:35:41.419 --> 00:35:43.454
- That you would like them to go.
- 00:35:43.454 --> 00:35:45.456
- I want you to pause.
- 00:35:45.456 --> 00:35:46.657
- I want you to realize that just because it seems like
- 00:35:46.657 --> 00:35:49.193
- They're winning, that doesn't mean that you are losing.
- 00:35:49.193 --> 00:35:51.629
- Change is an opportunity for god to build and grow
- 00:35:51.629 --> 00:35:55.600
- Something new within you.
- 00:35:55.600 --> 00:35:57.868
- And so even though it doesn't show up on the outside all the
- 00:35:57.868 --> 00:36:00.571
- Time, you have to trust that there is something god is
- 00:36:00.571 --> 00:36:03.441
- Working within you.
- 00:36:03.441 --> 00:36:04.542
- So be encouraged.
- 00:36:04.542 --> 00:36:06.043
- Their win is not your loss.
- 00:36:06.043 --> 00:36:08.279
- Their success is not your failure.
- 00:36:08.279 --> 00:36:12.850
- - i can think back to seasons where i was raising three kids
- 00:36:12.850 --> 00:36:15.486
- And they were little.
- 00:36:15.486 --> 00:36:17.188
- And so that, like you said, the seasons, that felt like a
- 00:36:17.188 --> 00:36:18.789
- Long time because just as soon as you get one out of diapers,
- 00:36:18.789 --> 00:36:22.960
- Another one came and then another one, you know, and i
- 00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:24.962
- Remember that time when we had like a party when the very
- 00:36:24.962 --> 00:36:28.165
- Last child was out of diapers.
- 00:36:28.165 --> 00:36:31.002
- And i remember sitting in nursing mother's rooms or
- 00:36:31.002 --> 00:36:33.170
- Whatever with these young moms that we were all in the same
- 00:36:33.170 --> 00:36:35.606
- Season thinking, will i ever be anything more than the
- 00:36:35.606 --> 00:36:39.043
- Nursing mom or the play date mom or any of that?
- 00:36:39.043 --> 00:36:42.580
- And i remember a time when my kids were a little bit older,
- 00:36:42.580 --> 00:36:48.052
- They were school-aged, even though we had a homeschool
- 00:36:48.052 --> 00:36:50.221
- Component to their education.
- 00:36:50.221 --> 00:36:52.290
- But i had a little bit of time that i could start dreaming
- 00:36:52.290 --> 00:36:56.494
- Again about something that was maybe more mine, that wasn't
- 00:36:56.494 --> 00:36:59.997
- Just mothering and giving.
- 00:36:59.997 --> 00:37:01.265
- And i remember thinking, is that, i mean, is that okay?
- 00:37:01.265 --> 00:37:05.069
- Can i do that?
- 00:37:05.069 --> 00:37:06.537
- Is there more to me than just that mother?
- 00:37:06.537 --> 00:37:08.939
- I had gotten so much into seeing myself just as that
- 00:37:08.939 --> 00:37:14.111
- Thing, even though i knew inside of me, i had things
- 00:37:14.111 --> 00:37:16.147
- Like screaming to come out, you know, desires.
- 00:37:16.147 --> 00:37:18.249
- And so i would say to somebody who is feeling like they're in
- 00:37:18.249 --> 00:37:22.086
- A season, if they can, i mean, i look back and i think my
- 00:37:22.086 --> 00:37:26.624
- Kids are all now...
- 00:37:26.624 --> 00:37:27.925
- I've got one married with a grandkid on the way, a baby on
- 00:37:27.925 --> 00:37:30.027
- The way, and two in college.
- 00:37:30.027 --> 00:37:33.130
- And i think, why would i have ever wanted those seasons,
- 00:37:33.130 --> 00:37:36.133
- That season of the littleness to go away so quickly?
- 00:37:36.133 --> 00:37:38.669
- So i would just maybe even say to somebody watching who's
- 00:37:38.669 --> 00:37:41.505
- Thinking, is this ever going to-- and now i'm comparing it
- 00:37:41.505 --> 00:37:43.474
- To motherhood.
- 00:37:43.474 --> 00:37:45.242
- It could be whatever season.
- 00:37:45.242 --> 00:37:45.943
- Could be single.
- 00:37:45.943 --> 00:37:46.544
- It could be single.
- 00:37:46.544 --> 00:37:47.912
- - because you got single people who want to be married and you
- 00:37:47.912 --> 00:37:49.914
- Got married who want to be single.
- 00:37:49.914 --> 00:37:51.148
- That's another show.
- 00:37:51.148 --> 00:37:55.319
- That is really true.
- 00:37:54.452 --> 00:37:58.389
- And but i think you have to, it's that it's the gratitude
- 00:37:58.389 --> 00:38:01.726
- Thing is huge.
- 00:38:01.726 --> 00:38:03.427
- But i think you also have to just, you have to check
- 00:38:03.427 --> 00:38:06.097
- Yourself on where is my trust?
- 00:38:06.097 --> 00:38:07.832
- Do i trust that if i am supposed to move on to another
- 00:38:07.832 --> 00:38:11.369
- Season, god will let me know.
- 00:38:11.369 --> 00:38:12.803
- He will make me aware he'll start burning things inside of
- 00:38:12.803 --> 00:38:15.139
- Me.
- 00:38:15.139 --> 00:38:21.078
- He'll start giving me interest.
- 00:38:21.078 --> 00:38:22.346
- He'll start, you know, i'm thinking of the single person,
- 00:38:22.346 --> 00:38:24.715
- You know, i think, oh, i can understand that that is such a
- 00:38:24.715 --> 00:38:29.487
- Long season.
- 00:38:29.487 --> 00:38:30.654
- But i do believe that god will begin to move in that
- 00:38:30.654 --> 00:38:34.558
- Direction when it's time.
- 00:38:34.558 --> 00:38:37.428
- Otherwise, it's almost like if you haven't heard a new thing
- 00:38:37.428 --> 00:38:40.798
- To do, do the thing that you know you're told to do last.
- 00:38:40.798 --> 00:38:45.302
- Just keep doing that thing.
- 00:38:45.302 --> 00:38:47.138
- And just don't get disgruntled.
- 00:38:47.138 --> 00:38:49.106
- I mean, it's talked about so often in the bible about
- 00:38:49.106 --> 00:38:51.542
- Contentment.
- 00:38:51.542 --> 00:38:52.977
- And what does it look like to be content knowing that any
- 00:38:52.977 --> 00:38:55.446
- And every season?
- 00:38:55.446 --> 00:38:57.715
- In any and every season.
- 00:38:57.715 --> 00:38:59.984
- He knew how to be content with much and knew how to be
- 00:38:58.816 --> 00:39:03.053
- Content with little.
- 00:39:03.053 --> 00:39:04.388
- And there are seasons that you feel like you maybe are in the
- 00:39:04.388 --> 00:39:06.657
- Much and seasons you feel like you're in the little.
- 00:39:06.657 --> 00:39:09.226
- - my husband and i have three grown children.
- 00:39:09.226 --> 00:39:12.897
- It was just last year we went through that season of
- 00:39:12.897 --> 00:39:15.366
- Becoming empty nesters.
- 00:39:15.366 --> 00:39:17.435
- We have a married child and then two that were in college
- 00:39:17.435 --> 00:39:20.971
- And it was a very jarring season for me and in the
- 00:39:20.971 --> 00:39:25.443
- Process of what felt like grieving and mourning because
- 00:39:25.443 --> 00:39:29.280
- It's interesting right it's all you ever pray for your
- 00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:31.415
- Kids you know that they would soar that they would take that
- 00:39:31.415 --> 00:39:35.119
- Next step into adulthood and then they actually do it and
- 00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:38.222
- You're like why did it have to be like this but when i was
- 00:39:38.222 --> 00:39:40.090
- Kind of evaluating asking the lord to help me see his
- 00:39:40.090 --> 00:39:45.629
- Perspective of this season it really was one of gratitude
- 00:39:45.629 --> 00:39:49.233
- Because every time a child went into a different season,
- 00:39:49.233 --> 00:39:54.605
- When they graduated from diapers into not having to
- 00:39:54.605 --> 00:39:58.309
- Wear diapers anymore, when they graduated from crawling
- 00:39:58.309 --> 00:40:00.845
- To walking, you never felt lost about that thing because
- 00:40:00.845 --> 00:40:03.314
- You were so excited about what was ahead for them and in the
- 00:40:03.314 --> 00:40:06.617
- Same way for me, i realized, even though it did feel like
- 00:40:06.617 --> 00:40:11.822
- Lost, my home was quieter, i could sense their presence not
- 00:40:11.822 --> 00:40:15.259
- There, i knew that where they were is exactly where god had
- 00:40:15.259 --> 00:40:20.631
- Placed them, and they were flourishing in the place that
- 00:40:20.631 --> 00:40:23.067
- They were.
- 00:40:23.067 --> 00:40:24.735
- They were doing the next thing god had for them, and that
- 00:40:24.735 --> 00:40:27.705
- Brought me so much peace as a mom because it's exactly what
- 00:40:27.705 --> 00:40:30.674
- I had prayed for them.
- 00:40:30.674 --> 00:40:32.409
- - i think there is also a generation that things get
- 00:40:32.409 --> 00:40:35.212
- Uncomfortable or hard so they want to change.
- 00:40:35.212 --> 00:40:40.351
- Like marriage gets hard, i'm changing to the next guy as if
- 00:40:40.351 --> 00:40:42.820
- That's going to make it better.
- 00:40:42.820 --> 00:40:44.688
- This job is hard.
- 00:40:44.688 --> 00:40:45.856
- God's leading me somewhere, maybe, but maybe not.
- 00:40:45.856 --> 00:40:47.324
- Yeah.
- 00:40:47.324 --> 00:40:49.460
- Just because something's hard doesn't mean it's time to
- 00:40:49.460 --> 00:40:52.630
- Change.
- 00:40:52.630 --> 00:40:53.731
- We use that as just try to get out of something.
- 00:40:53.731 --> 00:40:56.567
- And then to me, then you'll just be stuck in the next
- 00:40:56.567 --> 00:41:00.371
- Thing until you figure out what you were supposed to
- 00:41:00.371 --> 00:41:02.506
- Learn in this thing.
- 00:41:02.506 --> 00:41:03.841
- So sometimes just our change, we cause change to get out of
- 00:41:03.841 --> 00:41:06.810
- Something uncomfortable.
- 00:41:06.810 --> 00:41:09.513
- And i don't always think that was god.
- 00:41:09.513 --> 00:41:11.181
- - so this is actually good.
- 00:41:11.181 --> 00:41:12.583
- How do you know if the hard is the favor is up, the time is up,
- 00:41:12.583 --> 00:41:17.621
- The season's changed, or the hard is asking you to find
- 00:41:17.621 --> 00:41:20.424
- Some grit and go deeper?
- 00:41:20.424 --> 00:41:23.527
- Like, how do you judge?
- 00:41:23.527 --> 00:41:24.728
- I want to hear chrystal's thought on this, because...
- 00:41:24.728 --> 00:41:26.764
- - first thing i thought when you were saying that is am i
- 00:41:26.764 --> 00:41:31.769
- Being stretched or am i striving?
- 00:41:31.769 --> 00:41:34.171
- And knowing the difference because being stretched says i
- 00:41:34.171 --> 00:41:40.344
- Am growing and developing because of this.
- 00:41:40.344 --> 00:41:42.880
- Striving says i am constantly reaching for something that's
- 00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:48.218
- Out of my grasp.
- 00:41:48.218 --> 00:41:49.520
- One of the indicators for me, if i'm envious or jealous or
- 00:41:49.520 --> 00:41:52.890
- Comparing myself to other people to the seasons that
- 00:41:52.890 --> 00:41:56.026
- They're in, i think it's a good thing to feel that
- 00:41:56.026 --> 00:41:58.529
- Because it's an indicator it's an opportunity for you to look
- 00:41:58.529 --> 00:42:02.666
- At what is that telling me about me so i can look at
- 00:42:02.666 --> 00:42:05.903
- Somebody and look at what they're showing me on
- 00:42:05.903 --> 00:42:09.006
- Instagram and say i feel something.
- 00:42:09.006 --> 00:42:10.708
- Why do i want that?
- 00:42:10.708 --> 00:42:14.211
- What is that telling me that i don't have that i am coveting
- 00:42:14.211 --> 00:42:18.215
- Or desiring?
- 00:42:18.215 --> 00:42:20.184
- Because it doesn't have to be negative.
- 00:42:20.184 --> 00:42:22.052
- It could be, there is actually something about that life that
- 00:42:22.052 --> 00:42:26.056
- I want.
- 00:42:26.056 --> 00:42:27.191
- So i can see some, you know, all on social media.
- 00:42:27.191 --> 00:42:29.193
- People got their chickens.
- 00:42:29.193 --> 00:42:30.861
- They're living on compounds.
- 00:42:30.861 --> 00:42:32.029
- Listen, i have my children together.
- 00:42:32.029 --> 00:42:34.098
- - they're picking their tomatoes and their peas.
- 00:42:34.098 --> 00:42:36.634
- I'm like, how?
- 00:42:36.634 --> 00:42:37.801
- - they make their own almond milk and all the things.
- 00:42:37.801 --> 00:42:40.437
- It's like, you know, so i can look at that.
- 00:42:40.437 --> 00:42:43.173
- Is it that i want the chicken and the, whatever, what is it
- 00:42:43.173 --> 00:42:45.209
- That i want?
- 00:42:45.209 --> 00:42:46.310
- Okay, maybe i want to be closer to family.
- 00:42:46.310 --> 00:42:48.178
- Yes.
- 00:42:48.178 --> 00:42:49.680
- So that's not a bad thing.
- 00:42:49.680 --> 00:42:51.148
- The problem is wanting what they have, but is it telling
- 00:42:51.148 --> 00:42:54.785
- Me something that would not be bad, that it actually could be
- 00:42:54.785 --> 00:43:00.758
- God honoring for me to be intentional about time with my
- 00:43:00.758 --> 00:43:02.726
- Family, right?
- 00:43:02.726 --> 00:43:04.028
- And do i need to stretch something in my life in order
- 00:43:04.028 --> 00:43:05.996
- To accommodate something that is god honoring?
- 00:43:05.996 --> 00:43:09.867
- Striving would be, now i'm out here looking for land and i'm
- 00:43:09.867 --> 00:43:13.270
- Trying to learn about chickens because that actually wasn't
- 00:43:13.270 --> 00:43:15.372
- Connected.
- 00:43:15.372 --> 00:43:17.341
- - yeah.
- 00:43:17.341 --> 00:43:18.742
- That's the point.
- 00:43:18.742 --> 00:43:20.644
- - that's really good.
- 00:43:20.644 --> 00:43:21.979
- So i think about david in the field and not even being there
- 00:43:21.979 --> 00:43:23.947
- When samuel came to jesse and said, where are your sons?
- 00:43:23.947 --> 00:43:26.383
- Because one of your sons is going to be a king.
- 00:43:26.383 --> 00:43:28.118
- Okay, david was always taking care of his sheep, killing the
- 00:43:28.118 --> 00:43:32.189
- Bears and going against the lions and all those kinds of
- 00:43:32.189 --> 00:43:35.292
- Things.
- 00:43:35.292 --> 00:43:36.427
- And so when he was asked or anointed to be king, he
- 00:43:36.427 --> 00:43:39.163
- Brought all of those same things.
- 00:43:39.163 --> 00:43:40.597
- He brought it when he killed goliath.
- 00:43:40.597 --> 00:43:42.399
- He brought it when he was a mighty warrior.
- 00:43:42.399 --> 00:43:43.867
- He brought all of those same things.
- 00:43:43.867 --> 00:43:46.070
- So doing those same things was a stretching of the capacity,
- 00:43:46.070 --> 00:43:48.439
- But it wasn't striving because he always showed up to the
- 00:43:48.439 --> 00:43:51.508
- Next battle, fighting a battle like goliath.
- 00:43:51.508 --> 00:43:54.511
- He was like looking around like, are we gonna, are we not
- 00:43:54.511 --> 00:43:57.081
- Gonna do anything about this?
- 00:43:57.081 --> 00:43:59.016
- Because it was not him striving to do it.
- 00:43:59.016 --> 00:44:01.418
- He was stretching a capacity that god had already put in
- 00:44:01.418 --> 00:44:04.655
- Him.
- 00:44:04.655 --> 00:44:05.956
- So the question is when i feel envious or jealous, is what
- 00:44:05.956 --> 00:44:08.592
- Did god already put in me?
- 00:44:08.592 --> 00:44:10.627
- And am i supposed to use something that i already have
- 00:44:10.627 --> 00:44:12.730
- Or be obedient to the word that god has already given me
- 00:44:12.730 --> 00:44:15.599
- To stretch myself in a capacity that's already god
- 00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:17.735
- Given?
- 00:44:17.735 --> 00:44:19.336
- Or am i striving to do something that was never in my
- 00:44:19.336 --> 00:44:21.004
- Capacity to be given.
- 00:44:21.004 --> 00:44:22.539
- - it makes me even think whenever you use david as the
- 00:44:22.539 --> 00:44:25.375
- Example, and you think about when they put the armor on
- 00:44:25.375 --> 00:44:26.744
- Him, that's almost like the example of striving.
- 00:44:26.744 --> 00:44:29.146
- That was going to be striving.
- 00:44:29.146 --> 00:44:30.447
- And so what you have to conclude there is stretching
- 00:44:30.447 --> 00:44:34.418
- Is always a dependence on god.
- 00:44:34.418 --> 00:44:37.054
- Because when he took the armor off and he just had his little
- 00:44:37.054 --> 00:44:39.690
- Knapsack of rocks, and that was him being stretched, but
- 00:44:39.690 --> 00:44:43.794
- He was absolutely reliant that god would find that battle.
- 00:44:43.794 --> 00:44:47.564
- - dependent on god and dependent on what god has
- 00:44:47.564 --> 00:44:49.900
- Already deposited, which is either what he's put in you
- 00:44:49.900 --> 00:44:53.437
- And that needs to continue to be developed, or it's a
- 00:44:53.437 --> 00:44:56.273
- Deposit in something you don't think you have, but you're
- 00:44:56.273 --> 00:44:59.276
- Walking in obedience to his word.
- 00:44:59.276 --> 00:45:01.211
- - the question you had asked in terms of how do i know,
- 00:45:01.211 --> 00:45:05.482
- Right, if the favor of god has left me or if this is just a
- 00:45:05.482 --> 00:45:07.885
- Hard season, immediately took me to john 15.
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- So i'm the true vine and my father is the gardener.
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- It says he cuts off every branch in me that bears no
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- Fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit, he prunes so
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- That it will be even more fruitful.
- 00:45:17.795 --> 00:45:21.365
- I think one of the greatest signs to me is whether or not
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- There is fruit.
- 00:45:24.902 --> 00:45:27.504
- - you're doing all that you can do, and nothing is
- 00:45:27.504 --> 00:45:28.639
- Happening.
- 00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:29.940
- - it says he cuts off every branch that bears no fruit and
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- He prunes the branches that do bear fruit.
- 00:45:32.576 --> 00:45:34.912
- So you're cut either way, right?
- 00:45:34.912 --> 00:45:36.446
- You're gonna cut either way.
- 00:45:36.446 --> 00:45:38.148
- But the difference is, is that there is fruit.
- 00:45:38.148 --> 00:45:40.717
- Now, that could be internal.
- 00:45:40.717 --> 00:45:43.253
- I'm learning, i'm growing.
- 00:45:43.253 --> 00:45:44.655
- My faith is stretching.
- 00:45:44.655 --> 00:45:45.589
- I'm experiencing a new level of god.
- 00:45:45.589 --> 00:45:48.292
- It could be tangible fruit.
- 00:45:48.292 --> 00:45:51.094
- But there's going to be fruit, and there's going to also be
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- Grace.
- 00:45:54.898 --> 00:45:56.567
- - it goes back to what you were saying about, like, somebody
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- Wanting to leave a job too soon.
- 00:45:57.534 --> 00:45:59.169
- It's like, i'm not getting what i want.
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- I may not be getting the pay or i may not be getting the
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- Title or not getting promoted.
- 00:46:04.441 --> 00:46:06.243
- But one of the questions you can always ask yourself is,
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- But am i learning?
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- Am i growing?
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- Is god doing something in this position where i'm not getting
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- What i want?
- 00:46:14.618 --> 00:46:15.919
- I'd like to move on to a next season of responsibility or
- 00:46:15.919 --> 00:46:17.888
- Title or money, but is he giving me something he wants
- 00:46:17.888 --> 00:46:22.025
- For me?
- 00:46:22.025 --> 00:46:23.227
- - or what if you're in a season where what you're doing
- 00:46:23.227 --> 00:46:26.163
- Is affecting someone else?
- 00:46:26.163 --> 00:46:28.098
- You're there for someone else.
- 00:46:28.098 --> 00:46:29.466
- - oh, see, oh, there's a thought.
- 00:46:29.466 --> 00:46:31.635
- Oh, it's not about me?
- 00:46:31.635 --> 00:46:34.004
- Right.
- 00:46:34.004 --> 00:46:35.272
- - some indicators that god might be calling us into a new
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- Season are doors that you think should be opening and
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- They're not.
- 00:46:41.745 --> 00:46:44.915
- Doors that you would hope that would close and they are not.
- 00:46:44.915 --> 00:46:48.585
- Repetition that you're hearing and seeing the same thing in
- 00:46:48.585 --> 00:46:52.155
- The podcast, in the sermon, in your bible study through a
- 00:46:52.155 --> 00:46:55.592
- Trusted friend.
- 00:46:55.592 --> 00:46:56.894
- God uses our circumstances often to teach us to guide us
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- And to lead us.
- 00:47:00.964 --> 00:47:02.733
- So definitely paying attention to that.
- 00:47:02.733 --> 00:47:04.501
- And then just something that you can't shake.
- 00:47:04.501 --> 00:47:06.303
- As you study god's word, as you pray, as you listen to
- 00:47:06.303 --> 00:47:09.039
- Good wisdom in your life, something you just can't
- 00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:11.642
- Shake.
- 00:47:11.642 --> 00:47:13.577
- But here's the beauty.
- 00:47:13.577 --> 00:47:16.680
- When you don't feel like you're sure about following
- 00:47:16.680 --> 00:47:18.248
- God...
- 00:47:18.248 --> 00:47:19.416
- But you're sure making that your aim god can hit a
- 00:47:19.416 --> 00:47:23.253
- Bullseye with a crooked stick and the longer you make your
- 00:47:23.253 --> 00:47:25.455
- Best effort to follow god's leading, the better you get at
- 00:47:25.455 --> 00:47:28.058
- Hearing, understanding and decoding his communication
- 00:47:28.058 --> 00:47:31.962
- Through the spirit of god in your life.
- 00:47:31.962 --> 00:47:33.297
- - there's this scripture in judges three, this random
- 00:47:33.297 --> 00:47:38.635
- Little verse and basically, this is when joshua, you know,
- 00:47:38.635 --> 00:47:41.204
- They're in the, you know, on the edge of stepping into the
- 00:47:41.204 --> 00:47:44.641
- Land of promise.
- 00:47:44.641 --> 00:47:45.842
- And it says that god left enemies in the land because
- 00:47:45.842 --> 00:47:48.378
- There was a generation stepping into it that didn't
- 00:47:48.378 --> 00:47:51.181
- Know how to fight.
- 00:47:51.181 --> 00:47:52.916
- And so i think god could have wiped them all out.
- 00:47:52.916 --> 00:47:55.218
- - absolutely.
- 00:47:55.218 --> 00:47:57.187
- - but he left him in the land.
- 00:47:57.187 --> 00:47:58.388
- And so i think there is a generation who doesn't know
- 00:47:58.388 --> 00:48:00.257
- How to stand, who doesn't know how to stay, who uses phrases
- 00:48:00.257 --> 00:48:03.527
- Like, it's my seasons come to an end as a religious phrase
- 00:48:03.527 --> 00:48:07.564
- To get out of something.
- 00:48:07.564 --> 00:48:09.933
- When you just need to stay the course and push through.
- 00:48:09.933 --> 00:48:12.836
- So we're all going to go through season changes that is
- 00:48:12.836 --> 00:48:16.740
- Biblical but we just have to be mindful of that being an
- 00:48:16.740 --> 00:48:19.443
- Excuse because we need a generation to carry the baton
- 00:48:19.443 --> 00:48:22.045
- Of his word into the future which it's going to be hard,
- 00:48:22.045 --> 00:48:26.550
- It's going to be hard.
- 00:48:26.550 --> 00:48:28.719
- Alright so i'm going to pray.
- 00:48:28.719 --> 00:48:29.987
- Father, you are the god who is present.
- 00:48:29.987 --> 00:48:33.423
- Our seasons change but our savior doesn't.
- 00:48:33.423 --> 00:48:35.492
- You are present with us in every moment and every season.
- 00:48:35.492 --> 00:48:39.896
- And for that we are eternally grateful and i ask god that
- 00:48:39.896 --> 00:48:43.300
- You will open our eyes to see perhaps when a season change
- 00:48:43.300 --> 00:48:47.637
- Is coming, and also give us the wisdom to know when it's
- 00:48:47.637 --> 00:48:51.641
- Time to put our heels down and stay the course.
- 00:48:51.641 --> 00:48:54.544
- Keep us from being distracted in a very
- 00:48:54.544 --> 00:48:58.949
- Distractable culture.
- 00:48:58.949 --> 00:49:00.183
- I thank you father for the wisdom that comes from your
- 00:49:00.183 --> 00:49:04.921
- Word, and from your people in jesus name amen.
- 00:49:04.921 --> 00:49:07.290
- Amen.
- 00:49:07.290 --> 00:49:09.092
- - connect with us on social media and let us know how team
- 00:49:09.092 --> 00:49:13.263
- Can pray for you.
- 00:49:13.263 --> 00:49:21.304
- - so bekah asks this question.
- 00:49:22.005 --> 00:49:24.041
- She watches on youtube.
- 00:49:24.041 --> 00:49:25.375
- She says, i just graduated from college and i need
- 00:49:25.375 --> 00:49:29.179
- Direction on my next steps.
- 00:49:29.179 --> 00:49:29.946
- There's no safety net anymore.
- 00:49:29.946 --> 00:49:31.214
- I feel like i'm completely free and freedom is great, but
- 00:49:31.214 --> 00:49:32.983
- It's also scary.
- 00:49:32.983 --> 00:49:35.552
- I know god guides our steps, but i need a reminder that i'm
- 00:49:35.552 --> 00:49:37.687
- Not going to mess up what he has for me.
- 00:49:37.687 --> 00:49:40.424
- What is your wisdom for bekah?
- 00:49:40.424 --> 00:49:42.826
- - hey, well, first of all, congratulations.
- 00:49:42.826 --> 00:49:46.797
- Like, well done.
- 00:49:46.797 --> 00:49:47.931
- Well done, finishing something that you started.
- 00:49:47.931 --> 00:49:49.466
- If you're a follower of jesus, it says that he orders our
- 00:49:49.466 --> 00:49:52.502
- Steps.
- 00:49:52.502 --> 00:49:53.770
- So you don't have to feel like you're in a free fall.
- 00:49:53.770 --> 00:49:56.039
- Now, it will be different now because some of these
- 00:49:56.039 --> 00:49:58.742
- Decisions you get to make.
- 00:49:58.742 --> 00:50:01.378
- It's not about you have to show up at your 8 o'clock
- 00:50:01.378 --> 00:50:02.946
- Class.
- 00:50:02.946 --> 00:50:03.747
- It might be to show up to work.
- 00:50:03.747 --> 00:50:04.981
- So it will be different, and there will be some choices
- 00:50:04.981 --> 00:50:07.250
- That you get to make that perhaps you didn't get to make
- 00:50:07.250 --> 00:50:09.419
- Before.
- 00:50:09.419 --> 00:50:10.687
- Find a church that you can connect with people who are in
- 00:50:10.687 --> 00:50:14.091
- The season that you're in and the season just ahead of you.
- 00:50:14.091 --> 00:50:16.226
- Because we're not designed to do life on our own, and i
- 00:50:16.226 --> 00:50:20.230
- Think you use the words you're in a, feel like you're in a
- 00:50:20.230 --> 00:50:21.898
- Free fall or something, but you don't have to feel like
- 00:50:21.898 --> 00:50:24.134
- That.
- 00:50:24.134 --> 00:50:25.435
- So get in a community, if you don't like the first church,
- 00:50:25.435 --> 00:50:26.670
- Find another one, but find one that you can connect with
- 00:50:26.670 --> 00:50:29.439
- People, get in some small groups.
- 00:50:29.439 --> 00:50:32.275
- So there are people who can help you as you face some of
- 00:50:32.275 --> 00:50:33.810
- The decisions, because i promise you, there will be
- 00:50:33.810 --> 00:50:35.745
- People that you'll meet who have navigated the season that
- 00:50:35.745 --> 00:50:39.015
- You're navigating.
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