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What Does the Bible Say about Women? - Episode 1083

August 6, 2025 | S7 E1083 | 52:34

What Does the Bible Say about Women? - Episode 1083
God chooses women to lead, speak truth, and carry out sacred assignments. God’s Word is filled with bold stories of women who played vital roles in fulfilling His purpose. Their voices, courage, and obedience reveal a legacy of strength that still speaks today. | TBN Prayer Line: 714-731-1000
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Better Together | What Does the Bible Say about Women? - Episode 1083 | August 6, 2025
  • - this passage for women, for everybody, is so liberating
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  • But it can go down a little spicy.
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  • - the unifying way is to make sure we are making space and
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  • Addressing that both our brothers and sisters are here.
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  • ♪ (music playing) ♪
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  • - we are diving into a passage that we all talked about
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  • Off-camera because it's one of our favorite passages.
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  • This passage for women for everybody is so liberating.
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  • But it can go down a little spicy.
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  • Especially for people who have missed typecast paul as a
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  • Misogynist.
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  • Because he's the antithesis of a misogynist, being anti-that's
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  • A fancy word just means not really being pro-female and
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  • These first few verses in the beginning of romans 16 really
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  • Proves how pro-sons and daughters paul is for these
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  • Believers living in rome.
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  • He says this is romans chapter 16 verse one i commend to you
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  • Our sister phoebe a servant of the church at cenchreae that you
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  • May welcome her in the lord in the way worthy of the saints
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  • And help her in whatever she may need from you for she has
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  • Been a patron of many and of myself as well.
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  • Greet prisca and aquila my fellow workers in christ jesus
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  • Who risk their necks for my life to whom not only i give
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  • Thanks but all the churches of the gentiles give thanks as
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  • Well.
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  • Greet also the church in their house.
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  • Greet my beloved epaenetus, who was the first convert to
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  • Christ in asia.
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  • Greet mary who is working hard for you.
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  • Greet andronicus and junia, my kinsmen and my fellow
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  • Prisoners.
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  • They are well known to the apostles and they were in
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  • Christ before me.
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  • I'm going to stop there and because dr. cohick i'm
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  • Trying to finish i'm going to be the oldest person ever to
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  • Finish a doctorate in seminary but i'm trying to finish a
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  • Doctorate on the theological anthropology of women and i
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  • Have stacks of books, in my lit review and your name is on
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  • A whole bunch of them.
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  • And so i would love for you dr. cohick just help us
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  • Understand first of all why it's wildly significant for us
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  • As women who love jesus today that phoebe is paul's letter
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  • Carrier and then let's dive into why prisca why it's such
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  • A big deal she's listed before her husband and then why don't
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  • You kind of dive-- and let's ask questions too but we are
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  • Sitting with one of the world renowned scholars on these
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  • Passages and i would like to get us to our sister junia,
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  • So would you take us on this deep dive into this marvelous
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  • Liberating passage?
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  • - well i'm so glad we started here.
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  • There's a couple of other spices this is just mildly
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  • Spicy.
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  • This is a little jalapeno.
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  • - what it does is shows us how the church functions like we
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  • Are talking about real women who did real things so that
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  • When we get to what feel like a little bit more abstractions
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  • About do this or don't do that, we will remember this is
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  • The context in which they were spoken.
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  • Phoebe, she is our sister paul-- when
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  • He will talk to the church he talks in sibling language and
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  • That i think is so helpful to brothers and sisters
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  • I think suggest a mutuality and good families and healthy
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  • Families brothers and sisters look out for each other.
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  • - back then paul had not visited rome yet and there's
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  • These young believers in rome most of the jewish roman
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  • Christians had come to christ when peter preached right
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  • After the resurrection and all those people come to christ
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  • When he preaches in southern steps and they were there to
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  • Celebrate pentecost they hear the gospel they go back to
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  • Italy as believers but then there's this a lot of fighting
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  • Between the gentile christians and jews questions and
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  • Paul sends them this letter that scholars today would say
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  • If you just had to have one book out of all of them that
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  • Contains our orthodoxy our correct beliefs about god, it
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  • Would be romans.
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  • And so when i found out he chose phoebe out of everybody
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  • He had mentored, he chose a woman to travel to rome with
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  • This theological import and not only that but back then
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  • Explained what it meant to bring a letter onto somebody's
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  • Behalf because that's massive.
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  • - it's massive and by recommending her that's kind
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  • Of a formal act to say this is my ambassador this is the
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  • Person this is she represents me.
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  • She represents him and she is a deacon at the church of
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  • Cenchrea.
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  • Your translation has servant which is [indiscernible] which
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  • Can be translated in a couple different ways but it's not
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  • Deaconess.
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  • So by having it in the masculine form here this is an
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  • Office of the church.
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  • - it denoted leadership.
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  • - so she is theologically attuned the city of corinth
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  • Has two ports one on the east then one on the west so this is
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  • The eastern port so she has a formal role she is known in
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  • The church reliable of course paul spent a number of months
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  • Over here a year and 1/2 in corinth.
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  • So he gets to know her very well, when they wrote in the
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  • Ancient texts they did not put spaces between the letters and
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  • So the text was just a continuation of letters which
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  • Means you have to practice reading aloud.
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  • - almost like shakespeare she would've orated the
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  • Whole book of romans.
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  • - that's right she probably practiced it like you do
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  • Shakespeare and she would've practiced it with paul so that
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  • If she had questions as she's going through like hey what
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  • Did you mean here?
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  • So i guess the import is not just that she delivered the
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  • Letter but there is evidence that she would have read the
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  • Letter and not just read the letter like you and i are now
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  • Reading it but she would have been the first if you will
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  • Interpret it.
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  • - and wasn't it very normal in that era for people to stop
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  • Just like i interrupted you, mid oration and ask questions?
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  • She would've had to defend all the way through right?
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  • - oh i think so there's a posture we see it in the
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  • Gospels.
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  • We will see it in the first timothy of a person sitting
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  • Before the teacher but there's the socratic method also which
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  • Socrates lived a couple hundred years before paul
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  • Developed.
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  • You learn by asking questions and you have this dialogue
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  • Back and forth.
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  • So there are ways in which questions could have been
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  • Asked in a very orderly kind of way that would not have
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  • Been disruptive, so she's a deacon, she's a sister, she
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  • Also is a benefactor.
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  • And some people have translated that as
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  • Helper which is too mild of a term she had resources, and
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  • That may have been financial, it may have been connections
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  • She knows certain people and you know can make those
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  • Connections, it suggests to me that she had some sort of
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  • Education.
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  • And so she would have been a very natural person for paul
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  • To-- and i say that in a very natural person, it was not
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  • Like he looked around and there were no men available,
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  • Right, she was the best person for the job.
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  • - the early church got it right the early church was not
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  • So bogged down in culture that they operated from a more
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  • Cultural standpoint than a biblical one right, and when
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  • Things would go off the rails there would be a quick and
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  • Swift letter from paul or quick response to correct that
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  • So i think what we can learn from the early church is to
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  • Just get back to letting the main thing be the main thing
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  • Because we are in the presence of the lord you are not
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  • Confused.
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  • About who you are and who god is.
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  • It's just important to remember it like oh my
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  • Goodness there is a context and it is so rich and in forms
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  • So much and so thank you for sharing that because i just
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  • Think oh man how much have we missed and how many arguments
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  • Have we been using our energy on instead of working together
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  • To proclaim the gospel.
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  • - that's right.
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  • And like you said dis- unifying us it's wasting our
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  • Time and energy.
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  • - that to me this whole passage dr. cohick,
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  • Because i want you to keep opening us up to it is speaks
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  • To our inherent bias because even if you wanted to jump
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  • We'll come back to prisca and aquila but when you say well
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  • There's no way it could be like that, brings us to junia
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  • Because for a long long long long time, her name was
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  • Incorrectly interpreted correct doctor?
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  • - correct yes it has to do with some ways with the text and
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  • How my name is lynn always no matter where it falls in the
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  • Sentence if i'm the subject or the direct object of the
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  • Sentence, my name lynn will not be changed but in
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  • Certain languages it does, they take an ending so that
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  • Kind of complicates things for later readers, but early on
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  • For the native greek speakers the church fathers for the
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  • First couple hundred years everybody knew this was junia
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  • Was a very common female name and junius is unknown like
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  • I think over 250 inscriptions of junia in rome alone.
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  • And there's no junius it's a made up name but the reason
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  • The name was made up to be man was because later the verse
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  • Goes on to say that andronicus and junia who are paul's
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  • Coworkers fellow jews fellow prisoners, they are noteworthy
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  • Among the apostles.
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  • And among the apostles most naturally reads as though they
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  • Are part of the group, paul is also an apostle but he was not
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  • One of the 12 so you have both the 12 apostles which
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  • Be know of from both first corinthians 15 and also in the
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  • Gospels, but then you have these other apostles right,
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  • And that is what junia and andronicus appear to be.
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  • - the base definition means eyewitness so an apostolic
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  • Account would be an eyewitness account, so it's saying.
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  • Yes.
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  • And so being an apostle however you're going to
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  • Specifically define it does carry with it authority.
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  • And that was the problem.
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  • It wasn't a problem for paul and the earliest church but it
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  • Was a problem later.
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  • And so you either have to change some modern
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  • Translations do and they say something like who are
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  • Noteworthy in the eyes of the apostles, or they are two
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  • People that are known by this other group over here we call
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  • Apostles, so you can change it that way which does
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  • A lot of damage to the greek the natural way you would read
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  • The greek or you just changed junia to a man, problem solved
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  • Except either way you're doing damage to what the biblical
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  • Text has.
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  • - and it was for quite some time right?
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  • The one you read depending on which translation you would
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  • Read that as paul was saying these are kind of the ultimate
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  • This is the all-star team of apostles and so later on
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  • Biblical scholarship you have to understand it was one of
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  • Martin luther's scribes who went surely, paul would not
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  • Have said a chick was an apostle i mean there's no way,
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  • It must've been a slip of the pen, maybe pulled an
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  • All-nighter and was sleepy because surely he meant it was
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  • Two men and they literally changed the original greek of
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  • That name which just makes you go speaking of inherent.
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  • - what i find so sad about all this, is that the other
  • 00:13:04.440 --> 00:13:09.545
  • Descriptors of this couple are in prison.
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  • They're in prison for the sake of the apostle.
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  • So what does being an apostle mean?
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  • It means laying your potentially life down.
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  • Certainly giving up your physical freedom and preaching
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  • The gospel.
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  • That is for jesus what leadership is.
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  • That's what service is, right?
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  • - when you look at the whole counsel of god genesis to
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  • Revelation what is the message to women it's really the same
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  • Message to humanity.
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  • That the living god has a table and the entire world is
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  • Being invited to it.
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  • The offer of salvation is not just through faith in jesus
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  • Our soul is saved, it's that we get saved into a family.
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  • No more orphaned and fatherless now we're fathered
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  • With siblings and a family.
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  • So the invitation for every woman is come to the table and
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  • Be a daughter, inherent your brothers and sisters come to
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  • Inherit jesus as the only begotten firstborn come
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  • Inherit the father as your dad.
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  • The voice of god and him to illuminate the word of god i
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  • - can we trust what the bible says about women?
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  • My most baseline answer is if we can't we can't trust the bible
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  • At all so the question becomes how do we as a people of faith
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  • Approach, take in, digest and apply the scriptures?
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  • It's something the only child in me loves about being a part
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  • Of the family of god is the scriptures or best experience
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  • Together like a feast like a great meal so whether we are
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  • Talking about the passages of women in the bible or anything
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  • Else for me the most beneficial way to go about it is to
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  • Experience and [indiscernible] and talk about the scriptures
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  • And other people in the family of god who was living god in
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  • This passage, what is he like what you can a mean for us to
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  • Walk with him, follow him and make him known?
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  • - i read romans 16 and it feels so lovely to me.
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  • It's almost back to that shalom.
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  • There's a warmth in paul that you can feel his love for
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  • Everybody, you know and i'm always saying when we got saved
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  • We got saved into a family.
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  • The family of god and paul who definitely had the
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  • Authority to walk into any room and go i am paul
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  • Everybody sit down and shut up i've got something to say to
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  • You right now super apostle, and you even see it here it's
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  • Always my brothers and sisters and the reason i say paul is
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  • Such he's wants to be a faithful follower of jesus i
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  • Read romans 16 and think about jesus's words in the gospel
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  • When he says don't be like the gentiles who lured it over
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  • Others.
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  • And how empire is very vertical.
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  • It's all about who's on top and how we climb like somebody
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  • Is below me somebody's above me, the kingdom is lateral.
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  • It's back to the sibling thing and even paul who would have
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  • Just understood if he would've come in like super apostle
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  • You all young ones sit here and listen to me it's like no
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  • Phoebe my sister, my brothers and sisters he orienting himself
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  • As a sibling and the family of god i mean romans 16 reads so
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  • Lovely to me i think we see some of paul's heart romans 16
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  • Is really one of those chapters, let him who has
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  • Ears to hear and eyes to see we get a sense of him here,
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  • It's very personal.
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  • - i love that this chapter starts off with addressing
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  • Both men and women there's 26 names there listed over 1/3 of
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  • Them 10 or something of them are women and right after he
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  • Lists them and urges everyone to greet this communal unity i
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  • Urge you brothers and sisters to watch out for those who
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  • Cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that
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  • Are contrary to the teaching of learn.
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  • He's like greet these people, men and women.
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  • There will be division among us in all sorts of ways and i
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  • Just love that it's so clear that the unifying way is to
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  • Make sure that we are making space and addressing both our
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  • Brothers and our sisters are here.
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  • - when i think about the biblical invitation into
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  • Teaching i almost liken it to a family i think in general we
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  • Should just say everybody needs a father and a mother
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  • And i'd say the church is no difference the church as
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  • Needed her fathers and the church has needed her
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  • Mothers, the church had her fathers think peter, the
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  • Rock the early church also had her mother's think mary magdal
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  • Or mary magdalene magdal means tower, so the
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  • Early church had peter the rock and they had mary the
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  • Tower and church fathers and church mothers.
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  • Trusting the spirit of god in breaking down the word of god
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  • For the edification and the benefit of the family of god
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  • And i think again and that harmony in that male and
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  • Female unity and coming together something beautiful
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  • Comes forth.
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  • - i went to rome this summer and did a steps of paul trip
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  • Through greece.
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  • It was unbelievable.
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  • Unbelievable, i went to ephesus where a favorite
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  • Commentary on ephesus is yours right here dr. lynn
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  • Cohick if you don't have this best commentary
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  • I've ever read by far on ephesus.
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  • I actually just went through so much of your the wisdom that
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  • God poured through you and to sit in ephesus and sit in the
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  • Ancient theater, and i didn't realize until dr. mcknight
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  • Help me get a better framework that you really don't get all
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  • Of romans if you don't read it backwards you read the last
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  • Couple of chapters because that shows you the disunity
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  • In rome you know between all the jewish christians had been
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  • Kicked out of rome for a short period of time three years and
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  • So and they are the ones who started the church well then
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  • The gentiles take over and they are not quite as focused
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  • On rules, i'm libertarian you are a rule follower.
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  • So when the jewish christians come back to rome there is
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  • This massive disconnect there like what in the world, the
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  • Carpeting doesn't match, they just have a cow, and paul's
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  • Whole point is this is basically the busiest
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  • Intersection in the world as we know it today if you all
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  • Don't get along it's probably 300 christians at this time,
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  • If y'all don't get along the world is not going to hear the
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  • Gospel so really all of this incredible apostle
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  • Is set in the context of community.
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  • You have to love one another well, and i think it really
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  • Behooves us to come back to the same theme because when
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  • You talk about gender and i think all of us have been
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  • Wounded in one way or another because we've all been told you
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  • Are not enough as a woman to be in some type of vocational
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  • Ministry leadership again if we lead from the wound we are
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  • Missing the whole point because it's supposed to be
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  • Brothers and sisters so i do think we have to keep coming
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  • Back to that and paul sets them often times frames them
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  • Together.
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  • - i've seen time and time again people wrestling with
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  • Questions they have about the biblical text and that's a
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  • Good thing because god already knows anyway that you have
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  • These questions, these doubts, he's ready to hear them i
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  • Think especially for women questioning their role, what
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  • The church has said they should be and what they feel
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  • Like maybe they are in their own skin like they have a
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  • Voice, they have a ministry but they have not been
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  • Encouraged in it, please take that before the lord, give
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  • That to him ask him for his perspective on that, his
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  • Encouragement the patience to wait until his perfect timing,
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  • But never worry about doubting or questioning, god loves you
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  • And as any good parent will just eagerly want to teach the
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  • Child who wants to learn so too our heavenly father wants us
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  • To come with our doubts maybe even with our frustrations be
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  • Totally open with god he does not reject he embraces us.
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  • Man helps us through.
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  • - paul does through romans chapter 11 all this deep
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  • Theology and we are so exhausted we're like okay i'm
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  • Done, but it all led up to this is the climax don't be
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  • Conformed to this age but be transformed by the renewing of
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  • Your mind, and that's the call, that's what we're doing
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  • Right now is saying okay what's the gospel truth, and
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  • What's the culture pushing us to see and what ends up being a
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  • False reality?
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  • - yes so one of those false realities is that women were
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  • More irrational or they more irrational, or were not as
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  • Rational as men they were gullible, they were more
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  • Emotional, all this stuff flows from aristotle that gets
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  • Remixed a little bit in stoicism by the time we are
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  • Now in first century, what you see then and why i think it
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  • Surprises us in chapter 16 is like wait a minute you've got
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  • Phoebe doing theology, and you know you have junia who is
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  • Proclaiming the gospel with enough clarity that she's in
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  • Prison.
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  • She is expressing the gospel clearly enough that it's a
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  • Threat.
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  • - my journey sifting through religion roles and culture and
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  • Faith, i think is an ongoing one.
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  • I'll just be honest because i think as a human being you
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  • Come into the world into a particular context that
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  • Becomes your reference for life.
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  • And as you become a believer you are trading that context
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  • For the truth of god's word not necessarily as in i'm
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  • Never going to feel like a black woman, as i become a
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  • Christian but more like oh what are the parts of this
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  • That the lord intends for me to continue to identify with
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  • Or to continue to allow to be a part of my day-to-day life
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  • And what is just like that's not actually kingdom culture
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  • Or mindset so i'm going to get rid of that, and so i think
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  • The journey is ongoing it's a trade-off you know and i do
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  • Believe that the lord intends for us to have everything that
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  • Someone else would call a demographic like being a woman
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  • Or being black, whatever you know you might think of
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  • However you think of yourself i think the lord intends for
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  • Those to be lenses through which we learn about him and
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  • Then through which we tell others hey, i've been redeemed
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  • And these are the places that the lord has met me right?
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  • But never to hold us back and never to be our full identity,
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  • And i think the journey is ongoing where we identify
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  • Words, what did i come here into and how am i going to
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  • Enter heaven right?
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  • What am i keeping, what's the draws and what's the real stuff
  • 00:26:05.421 --> 00:26:09.558
  • That and keeping?
  • 00:26:09.558 --> 00:26:13.896
  • - and then we go to priscilla and aquila or prisca and
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  • Aquila she's more the formal name priscilla is more the
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  • [indiscernible], and it's the same person and she teaches
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  • Another one of paul's coworkers we learn about that
  • 00:26:24.840 --> 00:26:31.113
  • In acts 18 where apollo's who is some--
  • 00:26:31.113 --> 00:26:36.018
  • - that's kind of the second john the baptist he had that
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  • Stature.
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  • And yes worked in corinth with paul, because some follow
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  • After peter, some follow after apollo, some follow after me,
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  • Paul, and then some follow christ.
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  • There's all that division as well in corinth so we meet him
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  • There and we also learn that priscilla taught him the finer
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  • Points of theology.
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  • And that's okay, like that is totally okay.
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  • And a work that i did where i mentioned this and talked
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  • About how priscilla taught apollos, it was being
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  • Reviewed by i mean they do different places different
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  • Journals review different books, and this one though was coming
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  • From a very conservative journal it is very nice the
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  • Scholar sent me the preview of what they were going to say
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  • And you know they did not totally hate it so that was
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  • Good.
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  • But they said that i was incorrect in stating the story
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  • Because priscilla helped aquila teach apollos.
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  • And i thought wow, i totally missed that and i'm going back
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  • To the greek and going where because i want to learn this
  • 00:27:48.758 --> 00:27:51.527
  • Is going to be published.
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  • People are going to read this and it's gotta be accurate.
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  • Right?
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  • It's not there.
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  • She did not help aquila teach apollos, she taught apollo's.
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  • So i wrote back and said thanks so much for showing
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  • This to me and appreciate your review.
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  • I did go back and look at the text and actually do not see
  • 00:28:13.582 --> 00:28:17.953
  • The whole help thing in there.
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  • You can disagree and say well she really did not teach a lot
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  • Or she was teaching in private, which is how you did
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  • It back then so it's not to take honor away from someone.
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  • - and don't some scholars say you see her authority in the
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  • Fact that four out of the six times you see the couple
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  • Mentioned in paul's writing, she is listed first which is
  • 00:28:40.943 --> 00:28:44.580
  • Very atypical for a wife to be mentioned before her husband,
  • 00:28:44.580 --> 00:28:49.151
  • In this literary era.
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  • - yes, yes.
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  • And she had higher status.
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  • So was it her learning and her role in the church?
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  • Was it that she was wealthier, a significant amount that she
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  • Would be named first?
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  • She was honored and honored before her husband but not in
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  • A way that was not causing shame on him it's not a zero-sum
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  • Game.
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  • And her living into her gift of teaching did not take
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  • Anything away from her husband or any of the men sitting
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  • Listening.
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  • It's just one believer teaching and others out of
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  • Their giving.
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  • - if anyone has never gotten behind you and said wow you
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  • Have an amazing story you have a beautiful voice that needs
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  • To be heard, i would say start talking in the dark to god.
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  • Start talking out loud to the lover of your soul jesus is
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  • The one who sticks closer than a brother, he's a father to
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  • The fatherless if you've never had a father whose eyes light
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  • Up, when he watches you practice the piano and run
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  • Down a basketball court or stand up and give a speech for
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  • Student government, if you never had a dad who loves you
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  • And an advocate for you will know that you have a heavenly
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  • Father who thinks you hung the moon.
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  • So start exercising your voice in the quietness of your own
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  • Room maybe even in the dark start talking out loud to
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  • God i promise i promise i promise based on my
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  • Own experience that through the work in the person of the
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  • Holy spirit if you put your hope in jesus christ you have
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  • The holy spirit he's our comforter, he is in you.
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  • The holy spirit will begin to tell you he hears you while
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  • You really like what he hears and once you start exercising
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  • Your voice in the privacy of father god who loves you, it
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  • Won't be as difficult to exercise it in the world
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  • Around us.
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  • - how do we know we can trust the written bible we hold in
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  • Our hands today?
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  • I think what hits me deeply is the survival of the word.
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  • Honestly i know we have so many translations but i don't
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  • Know another book that survived this long this
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  • Intact, and i think that's a miracle in itself.
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  • A site that leads me to trust now you know in more depth
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  • Than i do, some of the proof of why we can trust to and the
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  • Details of how translations come about.
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  • So i wanted to hear that.
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  • - no sure i think you're absolutely right that the
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  • Manuscripts that we have from dating even before the time of
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  • Jesus so old testament manuscripts, when we look at
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  • Those and then we look at the old testament case the modern
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  • We call it the masoretic text, the formal hebrew text
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  • It's almost no change, it's remarkable.
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  • It's over a thousand years, i think what that shows is the
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  • People of god really cared about preserving the word of
  • 00:32:04.546 --> 00:32:08.417
  • God there's a holiness to it and the church took that so
  • 00:32:08.417 --> 00:32:12.721
  • Seriously so we have ancient manuscripts and lots of copies
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  • Of the manuscripts that go up through the early and late
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  • Medieval period so that english versions today have
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  • Lots of resources and that's what committees draw on.
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  • You mentioned also translations and translations
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  • Involve taking ideas not just words but the ideas that these
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  • Sentences and paragraphs represent.
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  • And putting them into another language.
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  • So like greek into english.
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  • And most of the committees i think that do that today are
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  • And i serve on one the new living translation, that is
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  • Steeped in prayer, the people who are on the committee are
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  • Mature believers who are skilled in their understanding
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  • Of the biblical text so i think everyone should feel
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  • Comfortable the english translation that they have is
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  • An excellent representation of the word of god for us today.
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  • - i think it comes down to do we trust that god will allow his
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  • Word to be heard through imperfect people right?
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  • And i think we have to trust that he always has and that he
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  • Is still doing that.
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  • - no through the holy spirit it's not just the dead letter
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  • It's alive.
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  • - it's alive.
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  • - there's no replacement for reading our bible in an attitude
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  • - there's no replacement for reading our bible in an attitude
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  • Of prayer and responsiveness inviting the holy spirit to
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  • Come in.
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  • And then to do it with a group of believers is 1 more
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  • Way the holy spirit speaks to other believers and as he
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  • Grows them and as you grow in community.
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  • As much as i love education in the bible and i would
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  • Encourage women to pursue that, you're not disadvantaged
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  • If you don't have that opportunity.
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  • The lord has given us his own revelation in scripture and
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  • That's open to us all to continue to read that daily
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  • And invite the holy spirit to show you all the goodness in
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  • It.
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  • ♪ (music playing) ♪
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  • - i love watching your husband watch you teach.
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  • I have had the undeserved blessing of being in a room
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  • Where he leans further forward
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  • I think than anyone else in the room he delights in
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  • Watching you exercise the gift god has given you and that's
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  • Beautiful.
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  • When has there been a time recently when you've gotten to
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  • Step into your authority the way priscilla did with aquila
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  • And you have had if not a husband a brother celebrate you?
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  • And not feel like he was diminished by you exercising
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  • Your gift?
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  • - i will go because you asked that question and a face
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  • Immediately comes up and you know his name is curtis
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  • Zachary.
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  • We call him cz.
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  • And he is my brother, truly, in the family of god and
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  • The reason i say that is he has always supported me and
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  • Has been so for me and with me but the other gift that cz has
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  • Given to me i remember i was coming out of the tough
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  • Assignment and a tough place and --you were almost ready to
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  • Throw in the towel weren't you?
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  • - i was asking the lord am i done?
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  • I don't know if you've ever been there but i was like am
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  • I done his ministry behind me?
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  • - it wasn't just one wound, it was a season.
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  • - yes cz reach out and said let's meet for coffee i want
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  • To check on you and i think i probably cried the whole time
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  • But i will never forget because this is that brother
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  • Speaking to a sister this is a masculine follower of jesus
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  • Any woman could've said it to me in many did but my brother
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  • Who knows my life has been at my table he's fire pitted with
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  • Me in my backyard i've been to his house i knew him and his
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  • Wife before they even got married, and he looked at me
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  • And he said christie i am so tired of watching you run with
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  • Somebody holding your shirt from behind.
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  • And he was like what god is doing he's releasing that hand
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  • For you to be able to run and what he became for me in the
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  • Month and maybe year or 2 follow he became that voice as a
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  • Brother that was like you're not going to shrink back.
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  • You're gonna step into that and he was fanning in the
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  • Flame.
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  • The gifts of god in me.
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  • He was encouraging me along the way so i don't know if it
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  • Was from a husband but i know it from a brother.
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  • - the mutuality, humility and authority were never supposed
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  • To be segregated.
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  • - the knowing and understanding how god views
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  • His daughters and his women really does just inspire me
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  • To know who he is because he is not a misogynistic rude
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  • Angry exclusive god, he's the god of unity and togetherness
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  • He's the god of withness made that word up, and he wants all
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  • Of his sons and daughters to be a part of this beautiful
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  • Story that he's writing.
  • 00:38:09.078 --> 00:38:10.580
  • When i think about the lord and how he treats women in the
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  • Bible when we really read it for ourselves and understand
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  • That i am reminded that he is caring and inclusive and he is
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  • The god of healing.
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  • - i'm sitting here and i realize i am wealthy beyond
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  • Measure.
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  • Because i have a brother john reddick my big brother who is
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  • Who has always fanned into flame whatever the lord was
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  • Doing in me like i still play oh 4,000 tongues to sing on
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  • The piano the little hand version because that's what he
  • 00:38:40.376 --> 00:38:41.978
  • Taught me as a kid he's like this is what you can reach
  • 00:38:41.978 --> 00:38:44.580
  • These are the same course.
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  • And then there's my father lawrence lewis reddick, the
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  • Third bishop in the christian methodist church who has
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  • Always planted the seeds and fanned gifts into flame for
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  • Sure.
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  • For me and his other two daughters who are twins, my
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  • Sisters.
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  • Iris and rose who we've all since gone to seminary because
  • 00:39:02.331 --> 00:39:05.034
  • Daddy did and they are now getting phd's, brilliant and
  • 00:39:05.034 --> 00:39:08.337
  • Then my husband ej gaines the best husband in the world who
  • 00:39:08.337 --> 00:39:13.976
  • Many times i wanted to quit, many times i thought i was
  • 00:39:13.976 --> 00:39:17.313
  • Done, and had nothing else to give, and he would be like hand
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  • Me those babies, and go to work.
  • 00:39:21.984 --> 00:39:24.120
  • Hand me the babies.
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  • Even today who is with the babies?
  • 00:39:28.424 --> 00:39:29.792
  • He is.
  • 00:39:29.792 --> 00:39:32.195
  • - okay i definitely think i talked about this the first
  • 00:39:32.195 --> 00:39:34.597
  • Day my dad he just has no pretense he's just like get up
  • 00:39:34.597 --> 00:39:38.468
  • Go run i grew up with three older brothers and i always
  • 00:39:38.468 --> 00:39:40.036
  • Joke i'm like he essentially raised me like a boy he was
  • 00:39:40.036 --> 00:39:44.307
  • Like go on outside and do the grass with the boys and there
  • 00:39:44.307 --> 00:39:46.042
  • Just was no like differentiating, we all work
  • 00:39:46.042 --> 00:39:50.146
  • Hard here, we all do what it takes and so i definitely
  • 00:39:50.146 --> 00:39:54.450
  • Think my dad okay this is a very interesting person i
  • 00:39:54.450 --> 00:39:56.085
  • Would not have thought about this before for the past two
  • 00:39:56.085 --> 00:39:59.689
  • Years i've been filming a show called unshakable moxie.
  • 00:39:59.689 --> 00:40:04.393
  • And there is a guy who's actually the sound engineer.
  • 00:40:04.393 --> 00:40:07.930
  • His name is kevin and i work with him a lot because i do
  • 00:40:07.930 --> 00:40:10.800
  • Voiceovers for this ministry and i've been working with
  • 00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:13.035
  • Them for years and he is just quiet.
  • 00:40:13.035 --> 00:40:16.706
  • He's the guy that listens to everybody else talk so he
  • 00:40:16.706 --> 00:40:17.940
  • Never really says anything.
  • 00:40:17.940 --> 00:40:19.208
  • And i remember we were on site and i was sharing a really
  • 00:40:19.208 --> 00:40:21.978
  • Broken intimate part of my story and that's when a lot of
  • 00:40:21.978 --> 00:40:25.715
  • My ministry is sharing pain and providing little glimpses
  • 00:40:25.715 --> 00:40:29.085
  • Of hope in it.
  • 00:40:29.085 --> 00:40:30.520
  • And he came up to me with just tears in his eyes and he's got
  • 00:40:30.520 --> 00:40:35.024
  • Like the full on audio gear thing, and he's like can i
  • 00:40:35.024 --> 00:40:38.895
  • Talk to?
  • 00:40:38.895 --> 00:40:40.530
  • And i said hey kevin what's up what's going on?
  • 00:40:40.530 --> 00:40:41.764
  • And he just like i don't know if you know this about my
  • 00:40:41.764 --> 00:40:45.101
  • Story but we lost, oh we lost my son my little boy and he's
  • 00:40:45.101 --> 00:40:49.672
  • Like i got a daughter and i'm really grateful for her but he
  • 00:40:49.672 --> 00:40:54.477
  • Said i find that i do that a lot i'm like i still have one
  • 00:40:54.477 --> 00:40:57.980
  • Kid i still have and he said you just have given me the
  • 00:40:57.980 --> 00:41:01.817
  • Permission to really be sad that i lost my son.
  • 00:41:01.817 --> 00:41:04.086
  • That i lost my boy.
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  • And he was like and you just challenged me because i think
  • 00:41:05.955 --> 00:41:09.358
  • I will be a better father to my daughter because i will
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  • Listen to her pain more, and i did not even know i needed
  • 00:41:13.496 --> 00:41:17.366
  • That.
  • 00:41:17.366 --> 00:41:18.601
  • From sweet kevin, the sound guy, who is just like,
  • 00:41:18.601 --> 00:41:23.606
  • Literally my job is to listen to you women speak and it is
  • 00:41:23.606 --> 00:41:29.845
  • Changing me.
  • 00:41:29.845 --> 00:41:31.080
  • It's changing my faith, it is causing me to be a better
  • 00:41:31.080 --> 00:41:34.317
  • Father, and i just literally cannot help but think at this
  • 00:41:34.317 --> 00:41:37.286
  • Moment how many men are missing out on the fullness of
  • 00:41:37.286 --> 00:41:40.990
  • The gospel because they just won't stop and listen to the
  • 00:41:40.990 --> 00:41:45.461
  • Women?
  • 00:41:45.461 --> 00:41:46.696
  • - i think we learn to separate man-made limitations from
  • 00:41:46.696 --> 00:41:50.299
  • God's intent by reading god's word, i think when you
  • 00:41:50.299 --> 00:41:54.303
  • Actually dig deep into god's word you can see you begin to
  • 00:41:54.303 --> 00:41:58.341
  • See more clearly what god intended as opposed to even
  • 00:41:58.341 --> 00:42:02.712
  • Within the scriptures how the culture has affected
  • 00:42:02.712 --> 00:42:06.349
  • Same event in the scriptures we can see what god
  • 00:42:06.349 --> 00:42:08.551
  • Cares about and what god makes room to talk about in value as
  • 00:42:08.551 --> 00:42:15.524
  • Opposed to what a culture does, and so i think the more
  • 00:42:15.524 --> 00:42:19.895
  • We read scripture and the more we learn about who god is,
  • 00:42:19.895 --> 00:42:22.732
  • It's very easy to start to identify like wait a minute,
  • 00:42:22.732 --> 00:42:26.936
  • That does not line up with anything that god has ever
  • 00:42:26.936 --> 00:42:29.672
  • Said to me, or about me, and so that does not fit that does
  • 00:42:29.672 --> 00:42:33.909
  • Not seem like god's voice that is somewhere else probably
  • 00:42:33.909 --> 00:42:37.380
  • Culture or family members something like that.
  • 00:42:37.380 --> 00:42:39.415
  • But you know that by knowing the word and knowing god's
  • 00:42:39.415 --> 00:42:41.317
  • Voice.
  • 00:42:41.317 --> 00:42:42.752
  • - i've heard the adage so many times that behind every good
  • 00:42:42.752 --> 00:42:46.489
  • Man is a great woman.
  • 00:42:46.489 --> 00:42:49.158
  • And i just thought behind every female who has the
  • 00:42:49.158 --> 00:42:54.730
  • Undeserved privilege by the grace of god to be in
  • 00:42:54.730 --> 00:42:58.768
  • Leadership there's a good godly man.
  • 00:42:58.768 --> 00:43:01.871
  • Blowing wind into her sails and i think that it kinda goes
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  • Back to mutuality again if we are not careful we get
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  • Empowered confused with in rage, and the point of romans
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  • 16 really is not female leadership, it's community,
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  • It's us pulling the yoke equally for the glory of jesus
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  • Christ for the sake of the gospel and the few times i
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  • Have had i remember one time i was across the pond in london,
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  • And i was sitting across from a pastor i deeply respect, and
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  • At dinner with he and his wife and nick and chris cane, and
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  • The pastor's name is gary clark and he turned towards me
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  • And just with no agenda we were just talking, we had
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  • Eaten a lot of pasta i think we just wanted to sit or fall
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  • Asleep, but he just turned and something had come up about
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  • The minor prophets and he said lisa what do you think of the
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  • [indiscernible] and it was the most brother and sister he was
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  • Genuinely asking me what i thought about the i think it
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  • Was the literary format of malachi and he knew i studied
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  • And i went in that moment i realized he actually sees me
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  • As a peer this great godly man who's leading a church is
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  • Asking me a sister a little sister at dinner what do you
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  • Think?
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  • And tears just began to stream down my face just to be
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  • Treated with kindness by brother in christ and be
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  • Treated with respect i don't want his job, i just want to
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  • Run towards jesus together and i think that's what so many
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  • Women there's no agenda to take over the world are take
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  • Over the church, it's let's be brothers and sisters.
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  • - and who decided that education can only be for men?
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  • You know part of the reason we kind of have to get small at
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  • Times is because someone else has already decided way back
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  • That this is not where your space is to be, when
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  • University started, like around 1100 or so that was
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  • Also the revival of aristotle's thought within the
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  • Church.
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  • Prior to that, move, he was not as influential.
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  • At the very beginning of when university started in the
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  • West, they determined that women cannot be part of those
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  • So you had women that were opposites who were running
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  • Monasteries they had monasteries that were both men
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  • And women to different buildings but they were always
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  • Run by an abis by a woman, who had authority over the men and
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  • The women, it was fine, not a problem, but when they start
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  • Education in that formalized way they pulled in the church
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  • Pulled in a world view from aristotle that said women
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  • Because they are irrational should not learn.
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  • That's not biblical.
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  • That's why we get surprised when we see this but it's like
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  • No this is how it can be.
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  • - it is not biblical but it's an inherent bias.
  • 00:46:15.698 --> 00:46:18.868
  • - so if you're looking for a faith community that is safe
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  • And really just challenges you to grow, i would say the
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  • Question is where is there fruit?
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  • Where can you see how the lord is moving in their lives not
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  • Because they are his favorite or somehow have favoritism
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  • Because they've been meeting with the lord, they know the
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  • Lord they been in the word i think that the safest people are
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  • People that say yes to jesus dive into his word and look
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  • And smell and talk like him, and i just think the fruit of
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  • Who a person is shows you that they can be trustworthy and
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  • Safe.
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  • - janice i was just thinking i so trust your heart you've
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  • Experienced all kinds of yucky stuff being a beautiful strong
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  • Woman and being a black woman, and i've just seen so much
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  • Kindness from you through the years and i just thought
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  • There's a woman listening who's thinking i don't have a
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  • Husband who would sit down when i teach, i don't have a
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  • Brother who says you should run and not have someone
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  • Holding a shirt and i thought of the promise god says even
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  • If you don't have a father whose for you even if you
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  • Don't have a husband, i am a father to the fatherless, and
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  • I'm a husband to the husbandless and i will be your
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  • Advocate i'm for you not against you so would you pray
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  • For those precious and men there's a lot you brothers who
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  • Have not had an advocate for you, would you pray for the
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  • People who christie talked about it several times so
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  • Powerfully who feel like orphans, there's nobody really
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  • Advocating for them to have a place to take would you pray
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  • For them right now?
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  • - yes lord, i thank you for your word and thank of you for
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  • Your presence.
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  • It has meant everything to me.
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  • And i know every woman here with me today lord we thank
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  • You that as we draw closer to you things actually become
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  • Less confusing.
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  • In your presence, things are not confusing.
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  • We are not confused by who we are, and we are not confused
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  • About who you are.
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  • And so i just pray right now that wherever my sisters and
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  • Brothers may be right now where they feel isolated or
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  • They feel unseen underappreciated, not
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  • Validated, i pray that they would feel in such a way your
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  • Presence come into the room that in this moment they would
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  • Not be confused about you are, that they would not be
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  • Confused about who they are in you, that they have been made
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  • In your image.
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  • And regardless of how people interpret the word throughout
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  • The years, and the centuries, that actually won't ever
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  • Change.
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  • That cannot be robbed, and so i just pray right now lord
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  • That you would place a seed in their heart that cannot be
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  • Uprooted.
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  • But they are who you say you are because you are who you
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  • Say you are.
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  • I pray that you will bring community to them that is
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  • Authentic, and that loves you and that is willing to lean
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  • Not only on their own understanding but all their
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  • Ways acknowledge you as they engage our sisters and
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  • Brothers lord, that they will do so with authenticity and
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  • Kindness and love and then i pray that whatever you bring
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  • Forward from that would bless your people will bless your
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  • Bodyguard, whether it seems big small or in between that
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  • They will do it with all boldness and courage knowing
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  • That they have been purposed for your glory.
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  • May they know it today and may we never forget it in jesus
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  • Name we pray.
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  • Amen.
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  • - let me just say this authority does not equal
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  • Influence or platform all of those things.
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  • And the truth is we don't want to, we want our authority to
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  • Be out of this world, we wanted to be rooted in the
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  • Power and the divinity and the miraculous character of who
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  • God is.
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  • And so your authority honestly has been given to you from the
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  • Moment you took your first breath because god gave you
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  • That and nothing and this world the influence, likes, followers
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  • Counts all the things can give you what the lord can give you
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  • That's true of the word.
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