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Better Together | What is Your God-Given Dream? - Episode 1021 | December 30, 2024
- - think about what brings you the most joy
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- Or when you feel most fulfilled.
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- You know, god makes no mistakes.
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- He plants dreams and passions in our hearts
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- To help us follow his plan for our lives.
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- Come on, let's talk about it.
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- (upbeat uplifting music)
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- - usually around this time of the year,
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- People get very excited
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- To be able to look forward to things, make new goals,
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- Set new hopes, right?
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- And i just got to thinking about god-given dreams,
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- And what is a god-given dream, and how do we even discern
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- Whether the dream is from god?
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- I remember when i got saved
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- And i was just ruined for this world in a sense, you know?
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- - how old were you when you were saved?
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- - i was 16. - oh my gosh.
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- - you know, and, you know, when you just get baptized
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- By the holy spirit like that, and just the world
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- Just kind of lost its flavor.
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- You know what i mean?
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- And so i just knew from the beginning,
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- Without having the language for it,
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- That i was called to be a preacher of the gospel.
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- - wow. - i just knew
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- That i was meant to give my whole life into ministry.
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- I didn't have the language for it, and also,
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- I never met a woman minister,
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- I've never seen a woman in ministry,
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- I've never seen a woman with a microphone before,
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- And so for me it was this stir, this hope, this, in a way,
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- This god-given dream, that had no place, right?
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- That had no language, that had no words.
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- And so i remember trying to articulate it
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- To church members, to pastors, and, you know,
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- It's not like the red carpet got rolled out
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- And people were like, absolutely, go for it.
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- That's from god.
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- If anything, i was met with a lot of resistance
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- Because people could not imagine what i was dreaming of.
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- People could not foresee what i was feeling
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- That i felt like i was supposed to walk into.
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- It took many years for me to feel like,
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- Oh, this is really from god actually.
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- It took many years of sifting through my own motivations.
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- When i have said like, i feel called by god to serve him,
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- And preach the gospel, and deliver the good news,
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- Then, you know, sometimes it'd be like,
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- Well, there's so many other ways to serve jesus.
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- Why do you feel so called?
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- How do you know you felt called by god, right?
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- And so it often made me question like,
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- Is this really from god?
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- Is this right?
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- Is god pleased with it even?
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- You know, and so i wanna be able to talk about this
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- And really sift this through.
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- I know for me what it took
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- Was not just one momentous occasion,
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- It wasn't just a dramatic encounter that i got
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- That hundred percent convinced me that this was the way.
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- For me, it was years of trusting the lord
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- With all your heart.
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- Lean not on your own understanding.
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- In all your ways, acknowledge him
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- And he will make your path straight.
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- So it was just a step at a time, a choice at a time.
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- You know, do i take this internship with
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- This youth group?
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- Yes god, or no god?
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- Should i not go to law school
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- And really take this pastoral position?
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- Should i preach and take up this preaching position?
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- Should i do this?
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- And it was just step by step
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- Just leaning on the holy spirit,
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- And just hoping that i'm making the right call.
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- I don't think there was ever a moment,
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- At least in the first five years of it,
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- Where i was convinced a hundred percent
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- That i was on the right track.
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- But yet in retrospect, i just see god's merciful hands
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- All over it, and i just knew from that moment
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- When i received that god-given dream
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- That it was from the lord, but it took faith
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- To walk it through.
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- - one of the things that's been important to me
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- Since i was a teenager
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- Is to really run everything by the lord.
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- You know, i gave my life to christ when i was 11,
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- And there was all sorts of different things.
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- I liked to sing, i liked to do lots of different things,
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- But i really wanted my life to count for god.
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- So i would often bring things back
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- And kind of surrender them to the lord and say,
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- Is this really something that you want?
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- Because the whole purpose of my life
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- Isn't to write another book or be in another tv show.
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- It's to glorify god, and that's your purpose too.
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- That's what god wants for you,
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- To use your life to bring glory to his name.
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- Only heaven will reveal how important that really was.
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- - have you ever had to discern
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- Whether your dreams were from god,
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- Or whether it was your own passions,
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- And how do you know the difference?
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- - it's a great question.
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- Is god's dream for you apart from your own desires,
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- Or do those kind of meld together?
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- Because when i was, i don't know, maybe 16
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- If i'm thinking about the same age as you,
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- There was no blueprint at all.
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- I was a girl growing up in scotland, and as far as i knew,
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- I was the only one in my high school who was a believer.
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- None of my friends went to church.
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- So the whole idea of being in ministry was like,
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- Well, what does that look like?
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- And i remember talking to my pastor and saying,
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- I really feel as if i'm supposed to spend my life
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- Telling people about the goodness of god,
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- But i don't know what that looks like because i was a girl.
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- And so the recommendation was,
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- Well, you'll become a missionary,
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- And that's what i went to seminary for when i was 19.
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- I went off to seminary thinking i was heading towards india
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- Because i remember asking friends of mine
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- Who were in the mission field,
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- "where's life hardest for women at the moment in the world?"
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- And at that point they were saying, women, you know,
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- That women don't get a lot of attention
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- And they're looked on as less than.
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- So that was, i mean, i remember my first week
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- At london theological seminary buying a map of india
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- And putting up on my wall in my dorm
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- And praying and just saying, and honestly i had no desire
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- To go to india 'cause i wasn't good
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- With traveling at that point.
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- I would get very carsick or i would get air sick.
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- - why did you look for the worst place?
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- - i know.
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- - well, that's actually a good question
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- Because i thought that that would please god more.
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- You know, sometimes people who have childhoods
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- That are kind of healthy and, you know,
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- We all have stuff in our childhood, but, you know,
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- Where you've got a mom and dad there and, you know,
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- You believing for the best.
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- Because of the trauma in my childhood,
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- I felt as if it's possible
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- To lose the love of an earthly father,
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- Although mine was a brain injury,
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- It's possible to lose the love of a heavenly father.
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- So my thing was, honestly, lori, what could i do
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- That i'd probably dislike the most?
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- And it was like going to india,
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- But i thought that would show god how much i loved him.
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- As if somehow, something i did would impress the lord.
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- But when you talk about taking the next step
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- And taking the next step,
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- That's absolutely the story of my life,
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- And i wouldn't be surprised
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- If it's not the story of all of ours.
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- That you look back 'cause god redirected my steps then,
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- And you don't always know a hundred percent.
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- This is, you know, it's not like
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- This great writing on the wall.
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- It's faith.
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- - yeah, i don't know that you ever know.
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- All i knew is that i was supposed to be in ministry.
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- I knew that all of my life, but i did not know
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- What that looked like just like you.
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- So i homeschooled through my high school years
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- 'cause we traveled full-time in ministry with my family,
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- And then it was like, i sang,
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- But i'm not gonna sing by myself 'cause i can't do that,
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- But i love to sing with everybody else
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- And i can harmonize and all that.
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- So i'm not a soloist,
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- So i'm not gonna make a living doing that
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- And i knew i was called to the ministry.
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- I begged god not to make me a pastor's wife.
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- I did not wanna do that.
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- I watched my mom, not that anything was wrong with that,
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- I just did not wanna do that.
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- - it was hard. - it's hard.
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- - and but i did not have any idea,
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- And so it was like, do i go to bible school?
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- Didn't have any desire to go to a university or anything
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- Except a bible school and just waiting on the lord,
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- And then those little steps of my grandma saying,
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- "i'm praying that you meet paul and jan's son."
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- Well, that was a clue.
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- - wow. - you know,
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- And then me finding my mother-in-law in an elevator
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- And her saying, "i need you, i want you to meet my son."
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- That was a clue, you know?
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- And then we broke up for a year.
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- A lot of people don't know that.
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- Then that fell back into place
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- Accidentally re-meeting in a church.
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- So then here we are today.
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- You know, i didn't have that dream in my heart
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- To go marry somebody that, you know, that was on television,
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- And that was never a plan for me.
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- That was never in my heart.
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- I knew i was born from ministry,
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- And i think a lot of us, and it is that stepping
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- One step at a time.
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- Oh, okay, okay, and the bible says
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- That the righteous men's steps
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- Are ordered by the lord,
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- And we are here for his purpose, not our purpose.
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- God has a purpose for us.
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- Anyone who's born, not an accident.
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- You're here on purpose, for purpose.
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- I'm gonna encourage you.
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- If you don't know or you don't feel like
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- You have a dream from god, i want you to pray about it.
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- That's the only answer i can give you.
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- I can't think of something for you except pray.
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- Pray, ask god the father to show you
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- And to lead you in all your ways.
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- If you have the holy spirit on the inside of you, he says,
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- I will guide you and i will help you.
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- So all we have to do is ask.
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- Call on me and i will answer you, and he'll show you a way.
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- He'll show you the way because there is a purpose
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- That god wants you to fulfill.
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- And so i think it's okay
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- That we don't know quite what it looks like
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- Because even today, your steps of faith are very unknown.
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- It's like, okay, i think i can see it.
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- Let's head towards it,
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- But i can't tell you exactly what it looks like,
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- And sure can't tell you the road getting there.
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- - yeah.
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- - for me, very similar.
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- I grew up in a denomination
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- Where if you wanted to serve the lord in any capacity,
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- It was missionary, it was children's worker,
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- Or it was pastor's wife.
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- Those were kind of your three.
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- - play the piano. - oh, play the piano.
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- Play the piano. - play the organ.
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- - sing. yeah, sing.
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- Because i had to choose one,
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- I just knew i was gonna be a pastor's wife my whole life.
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- That's just kind of how that
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- Because i knew it was 16 years old.
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- I came back from church camp, and 16 felt like
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- The lord had a call to ministry.
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- So it was a different thing.
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- It was different than just
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- I have received jesus as my savior.
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- I knew that i knew there was something in my life
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- That i wanted to be an ambassador.
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- - yes. yes. - for him.
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- I wanted to represent him.
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- - everything that i did,
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- I just didn't know what it was gonna be,
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- And i wasn't sure that i loved any of those categories,
- 00:11:33.983 --> 00:11:35.518
- But pastor's wife seemed to be the best way.
- 00:11:35.518 --> 00:11:38.154
- So i kind of thought,
- 00:11:38.154 --> 00:11:39.455
- "oh, i'll just always be a pastor's wife."
- 00:11:39.455 --> 00:11:40.456
- And what's so interesting is
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- All the while very different than that is
- 00:11:41.724 --> 00:11:43.659
- I was in high school, part of a television show
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- Through our school.
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- And i was anchoring the news at 16,
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- And all those kind of things.
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- And it's just funny because
- 00:11:52.401 --> 00:11:53.969
- I never thought the two could come together,
- 00:11:53.969 --> 00:11:55.104
- I never saw a path. - mm-hmm.
- 00:11:55.104 --> 00:11:57.039
- - and so the thing i'm picking up on is
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- How many women now, but would've been young girls,
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- So starting at your generation all the way through,
- 00:12:04.246 --> 00:12:06.382
- That women have had a hard time
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- Understanding their role.
- 00:12:08.818 --> 00:12:11.720
- - yeah, that's a good point. - in ministry.
- 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:12.855
- How much has that been a struggle
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- For so many girls and women saying,
- 00:12:14.824 --> 00:12:17.793
- "i really feel something
- 00:12:17.793 --> 00:12:19.461
- "impressed on my heart really strongly."
- 00:12:19.461 --> 00:12:21.697
- - yeah. - "but there seems to be a lot
- 00:12:21.697 --> 00:12:23.365
- "of narrow ways to get there."
- 00:12:23.365 --> 00:12:25.034
- "or the ways that i feel drawn to,
- 00:12:25.034 --> 00:12:27.469
- "there's a lot of negative opinion toward those things."
- 00:12:27.469 --> 00:12:31.307
- So i appreciate about you that you kind of
- 00:12:31.307 --> 00:12:33.275
- Broke through the barriers of negative opinions or not.
- 00:12:33.275 --> 00:12:36.312
- This is what i feel i'm gonna do.
- 00:12:36.312 --> 00:12:37.713
- - yeah. - and you just kind of
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- Went after it.
- 00:12:39.882 --> 00:12:40.816
- - and let me just say this,
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- Back then i don't know that we even thought
- 00:12:42.117 --> 00:12:43.953
- I could be a hair hairdresser and still be a ministrate.
- 00:12:43.953 --> 00:12:45.988
- - right. - right.
- 00:12:45.988 --> 00:12:47.289
- - that's a good point.
- 00:12:47.289 --> 00:12:48.624
- - where i could go into the market place
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- And still be full on ministry.
- 00:12:50.059 --> 00:12:52.461
- I can stay home with my kid,
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- And minister all day.
- 00:12:54.096 --> 00:12:55.130
- - yeah.
- 00:12:55.130 --> 00:12:56.365
- You're exactly right.
- 00:12:56.365 --> 00:12:57.333
- - we are all in the ministry.
- 00:12:57.333 --> 00:12:59.501
- - that's right.
- 00:12:59.501 --> 00:13:01.036
- - somehow, someway you carry that whole kingdom building
- 00:13:01.036 --> 00:13:04.807
- On the inside of you.
- 00:13:04.807 --> 00:13:06.075
- Back in that day we thought it was going
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- And being a missionary,
- 00:13:08.978 --> 00:13:10.045
- And singing in the choir.
- 00:13:10.045 --> 00:13:11.413
- It's all of it.
- 00:13:11.413 --> 00:13:14.016
- - so there could be a question
- 00:13:14.650 --> 00:13:15.985
- "well what if i don't feel called to ministry,
- 00:13:15.985 --> 00:13:18.387
- Like vocational ministry?
- 00:13:18.387 --> 00:13:19.722
- I maybe am in a vocation that is more secular,
- 00:13:19.722 --> 00:13:22.858
- Or one that doesn't necessarily always,
- 00:13:22.858 --> 00:13:25.895
- You don't think of ministry when you hear it.
- 00:13:25.895 --> 00:13:27.897
- And i wanna say there is so much impact
- 00:13:27.897 --> 00:13:31.233
- That you can make in that field.
- 00:13:31.233 --> 00:13:33.269
- That me remind you what matthew says in matthew 9:35,
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- Actually 37.
- 00:13:37.806 --> 00:13:39.074
- It says then jesus said to his disciples
- 00:13:39.074 --> 00:13:41.277
- The harvest is plentiful,
- 00:13:41.277 --> 00:13:43.746
- But the workers are few.
- 00:13:43.746 --> 00:13:45.714
- Ask the lord of the harvest therefore
- 00:13:45.714 --> 00:13:48.584
- To send out workers into his harvest field.
- 00:13:48.584 --> 00:13:53.455
- So what the lord is saying there is
- 00:13:53.455 --> 00:13:55.291
- There is this massive field,
- 00:13:55.291 --> 00:13:57.059
- And there are not enough workers.
- 00:13:57.059 --> 00:13:59.895
- He's not saying that is reserved
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- Just for vocational ministry,
- 00:14:01.764 --> 00:14:02.998
- In fact it's the actual opposite.
- 00:14:02.998 --> 00:14:04.400
- He's saying there is such a field of people
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- From all different walks of life,
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- From all different vocations,
- 00:14:08.771 --> 00:14:09.972
- From all different areas.
- 00:14:09.972 --> 00:14:11.307
- And we need you to go into that world,
- 00:14:11.307 --> 00:14:14.376
- Into those areas, into that vocation
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- To preach the good news.
- 00:14:17.479 --> 00:14:19.515
- How else will they know
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- If you don't go into those areas and preach the news?
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- (gentle music)
- 00:14:51.009 --> 00:14:54.150
- - i met jesus when i was 19,
- 00:14:54.751 --> 00:14:57.053
- And i was so radically touched by god.
- 00:14:57.053 --> 00:15:00.123
- Such a transformation in that moment,
- 00:15:00.123 --> 00:15:02.325
- So i did have that moment.
- 00:15:02.325 --> 00:15:03.593
- But i still had a lot of insecurities and fears.
- 00:15:03.593 --> 00:15:06.262
- And, again, in an enviornment that there was no
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- Without walls dream.
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- There was just you can dream within this container.
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- This is what you can do.
- 00:15:13.536 --> 00:15:14.704
- Within that though we had people
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- Coming and praying for us,
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- And would speak over us
- 00:15:18.341 --> 00:15:19.909
- "we just see god using you,
- 00:15:19.909 --> 00:15:21.411
- "and you can minister to thousands of people."
- 00:15:21.411 --> 00:15:23.313
- So that was a dream,
- 00:15:23.313 --> 00:15:24.748
- But then i was torn with the insecurity
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- Of i can't do that.
- 00:15:26.683 --> 00:15:28.218
- - yeah. - right, yeah.
- 00:15:28.218 --> 00:15:29.152
- - so somebody better come
- 00:15:29.152 --> 00:15:29.986
- And help me do this dream.
- 00:15:29.986 --> 00:15:31.287
- So kind of waiting for someone to discover me.
- 00:15:31.287 --> 00:15:33.423
- It's great to have the encouragement,
- 00:15:33.423 --> 00:15:34.958
- But sometimes you just have to pull up your boot straps,
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- And say "first of all it's not about being seen,
- 00:15:36.726 --> 00:15:39.496
- "what is the one step i can take now?"
- 00:15:39.496 --> 00:15:42.499
- 'cause that was years before i saw any of that fulfilled.
- 00:15:42.499 --> 00:15:46.236
- The calling is who am i supposed to see today?
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- Who am i supposed to encourage?
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- I think not only do we have dreams
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- It is us stepping into god's dream for us.
- 00:15:53.410 --> 00:15:56.413
- - right.
- 00:15:56.413 --> 00:15:57.580
- - what is his dream over our life?
- 00:15:57.580 --> 00:15:58.548
- And discovering what that is.
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- And it's always gonna come in seed form.
- 00:16:00.450 --> 00:16:02.185
- - right.
- 00:16:02.185 --> 00:16:03.453
- - it's never gonna come úfully blossomed.
- 00:16:03.453 --> 00:16:04.387
- - it's always gonna start small.
- 00:16:04.387 --> 00:16:05.188
- - yeah.
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- And it's that, i love that,
- 00:16:06.156 --> 00:16:08.358
- I've been sitting in this, eugene peterson,
- 00:16:08.358 --> 00:16:10.427
- A long obedience in the same direction.
- 00:16:10.427 --> 00:16:13.029
- - i love that book.
- 00:16:13.029 --> 00:16:14.464
- - and you're sitting at the work site
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- Of a master craftsman who begins to shape you
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- Into the dream god already has for you.
- 00:16:19.035 --> 00:16:21.471
- So pretty soon you not only look like the dream
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- That god has for your life,
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- You begin to look like him in the process.
- 00:16:25.975 --> 00:16:28.144
- But to your point, faith, a lot of my life
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- I had to just keep saying yes.
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- I didn't often feel qualified to step into anything
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- Other than what i was just doing at that moment.
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- So i think a lot of times it's good,
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- Allow god to give you big dreams,
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- But also be present where you are right now
- 00:16:44.294 --> 00:16:46.329
- So that he can build in you the muscles
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- To step into wherever he's taking you.
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- - so good.
- 00:16:50.533 --> 00:16:51.434
- - perhaps you're like me,
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- And you're feeling a little bit unqualified
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- Or like you don't have what it takes
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- To actually walk out the god dream,
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- God's dream for your life,
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- And i can tell you this from experience,
- 00:17:02.011 --> 00:17:05.281
- I wasted way too much time overthinking it,
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- Allowing the fear of what i would consider
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- Not enough to stop me.
- 00:17:11.221 --> 00:17:13.022
- But what i've discovered in reading the bible
- 00:17:13.022 --> 00:17:16.659
- From genesis to revelation is god always
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- Uses people who don't have necessarily
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- The natural gifting to begin with,
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- They just say yes.
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- And in the process of saying yes
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- With whatever that little gift looks like a seed,
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- God begins to grow that seed into something
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- That bears fruit.
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- So don't let what you think you don't have stop you.
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- We all need what you have.
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- In fact, god's entrusted you with it
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- So that we can all benefit
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- From what he wants to do through you.
- 00:17:41.985 --> 00:17:44.387
- - and don't be discouraged if it doesn't look like-
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- - right. - yeah.
- 00:17:47.690 --> 00:17:49.492
- - i think a lot of us have these imaginations
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- Like we wanna be able to reach as many people as we can.
- 00:17:51.861 --> 00:17:54.264
- There's so many people that don't know jesus,
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- How do we reach out to them?
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- Take the small steps so that you can actually
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- Move into the large space.
- 00:18:01.237 --> 00:18:02.739
- - yeah. - yeah.
- 00:18:02.739 --> 00:18:03.573
- - and it's not a quick.
- 00:18:03.573 --> 00:18:05.308
- Sometimes god does it like that.
- 00:18:05.308 --> 00:18:07.343
- I mean i'm seeing fulfillment of dreams
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- That we had 30 years ago now.
- 00:18:08.711 --> 00:18:10.380
- - right, right.
- 00:18:10.380 --> 00:18:12.015
- - i think what i love about what you're sharing
- 00:18:12.015 --> 00:18:14.083
- Is we get so taken by god when we see
- 00:18:14.083 --> 00:18:18.488
- Or almost see the final product,
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- When we pray
- 00:18:22.892 --> 00:18:24.260
- And when we can imagine the masses getting saved.
- 00:18:24.260 --> 00:18:27.130
- When we can imagine that business that you build
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- Or that town that gets revived.
- 00:18:30.533 --> 00:18:32.735
- When we imagine the dream
- 00:18:32.735 --> 00:18:35.004
- In and out itself, often we get so taken by god,
- 00:18:35.004 --> 00:18:38.508
- Like "wow, you called me to this,
- 00:18:38.508 --> 00:18:40.376
- "this is amazing."
- 00:18:40.376 --> 00:18:41.711
- But just as much as we fall in love with god
- 00:18:41.711 --> 00:18:45.882
- Because of the dream we must fall in love with god,
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- And remain intimate with him in the process.
- 00:18:49.085 --> 00:18:52.422
- - yeah.
- 00:18:52.422 --> 00:18:53.590
- - because it's actually the process
- 00:18:53.590 --> 00:18:54.924
- Where the dream gets clarified.
- 00:18:54.924 --> 00:18:57.694
- And i think people respond to that god-given function,
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- The vision, the dream, however you wanna see it
- 00:19:02.198 --> 00:19:05.134
- Or whatever your experience is.
- 00:19:05.134 --> 00:19:06.636
- We respond to it a little differently.
- 00:19:06.636 --> 00:19:08.771
- Some people get scared
- 00:19:08.771 --> 00:19:09.939
- And they're like jonah, they wanna run.
- 00:19:09.939 --> 00:19:11.841
- Some people they feel so honored,
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- Like god, me?
- 00:19:13.376 --> 00:19:14.744
- Whatever your response to this god-sized dream is,
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- I think more than the magnitude of the dream,
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- It has to be in the depth of our intimacy
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- With his presence that takes us there.
- 00:19:27.390 --> 00:19:29.892
- - yeah, yeah.
- 00:19:29.892 --> 00:19:31.194
- - because there's no way,
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- I mean maybe.
- 00:19:32.395 --> 00:19:33.663
- They get the perfect picture
- 00:19:33.663 --> 00:19:36.299
- In the very beginning,
- 00:19:36.299 --> 00:19:37.667
- And it gets fulfilled
- 00:19:37.667 --> 00:19:38.935
- Exactly the way they saw it in the beginning.
- 00:19:38.935 --> 00:19:40.803
- But more often than not we're left with so many mysteries
- 00:19:40.803 --> 00:19:45.341
- From the start.
- 00:19:45.341 --> 00:19:47.343
- - yeah.
- 00:19:47.343 --> 00:19:48.544
- - and the only thing that is sure
- 00:19:48.544 --> 00:19:49.912
- Is the nearness of god.
- 00:19:49.912 --> 00:19:52.081
- - right.
- 00:19:52.081 --> 00:19:52.915
- So think about joseph,
- 00:19:52.915 --> 00:19:54.317
- He was the dreamer. - i was thinking about that.
- 00:19:54.317 --> 00:19:55.451
- - and so joseph has these dreams,
- 00:19:55.451 --> 00:19:58.488
- Tells everybody.
- 00:19:58.488 --> 00:20:00.023
- I'm sure he didn't think i'm gonna have to go to the pit,
- 00:20:00.023 --> 00:20:02.392
- I'm gonna have to be sold,
- 00:20:02.392 --> 00:20:03.559
- I'm gonna have to go to prison
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- And accused.
- 00:20:05.962 --> 00:20:07.263
- So the hell he went through.
- 00:20:07.263 --> 00:20:10.066
- - yeah, yeah.
- 00:20:10.066 --> 00:20:11.567
- - but every step of the way it said god was with him.
- 00:20:11.567 --> 00:20:13.736
- In prison when he's telling everybody their dreams,
- 00:20:13.736 --> 00:20:16.973
- God was with him.
- 00:20:16.973 --> 00:20:21.244
- And so his purpose was to come out of all of that
- 00:20:18.941 --> 00:20:24.213
- To be molded and shaped in all of that
- 00:20:24.213 --> 00:20:28.184
- To be able to come and save a nation.
- 00:20:28.184 --> 00:20:30.887
- - and i'm sure somewhere along the line
- 00:20:30.887 --> 00:20:33.189
- He was like "but god, that dream you gave me.
- 00:20:33.189 --> 00:20:34.957
- "nothing that i'm in currently
- 00:20:34.957 --> 00:20:36.959
- "looks anything like the dream that you gave me."
- 00:20:36.959 --> 00:20:39.162
- - what about the dream?
- 00:20:39.162 --> 00:20:41.297
- Yeah.
- 00:20:41.297 --> 00:20:42.565
- - i think sometimes even what you're saying,
- 00:20:42.565 --> 00:20:44.067
- If we're not careful we can make an idol of the dream.
- 00:20:44.067 --> 00:20:45.702
- - totally.
- 00:20:45.702 --> 00:20:46.969
- - instead of becoming infatuated
- 00:20:46.969 --> 00:20:49.472
- And purposeful and loving
- 00:20:49.472 --> 00:20:51.741
- And knowing the dream giver
- 00:20:51.741 --> 00:20:53.109
- We become really focused on
- 00:20:53.109 --> 00:20:55.078
- We gotta make this dream happen.
- 00:20:55.078 --> 00:20:56.879
- And i think that's a real caution
- 00:20:56.879 --> 00:20:59.515
- When you're dreaming is to remember
- 00:20:59.515 --> 00:21:02.585
- He's the giver of the dream-
- 00:21:02.585 --> 00:21:04.253
- - yeah, exactly.
- 00:21:04.253 --> 00:21:05.188
- - and in his time.
- 00:21:05.188 --> 00:21:06.155
- And so you might find yourself
- 00:21:06.155 --> 00:21:07.557
- In a circumstance that looks nothing like the dream.
- 00:21:07.557 --> 00:21:09.325
- What are you gonna do then?
- 00:21:09.325 --> 00:21:10.526
- If you've made an idol of the dream
- 00:21:10.526 --> 00:21:11.828
- You're gonna feel very lost.
- 00:21:11.828 --> 00:21:13.429
- - mm-hmm. - yeah.
- 00:21:13.429 --> 00:21:14.697
- - but if you have made it your intention
- 00:21:14.697 --> 00:21:15.665
- To put your heart and minds
- 00:21:15.665 --> 00:21:17.934
- On the intimacy of your relationship with him
- 00:21:17.934 --> 00:21:19.802
- Then even when it doesn't look like the dream
- 00:21:19.802 --> 00:21:22.939
- You can trust everything he's doing
- 00:21:22.939 --> 00:21:25.074
- Is a step to get there.
- 00:21:25.074 --> 00:21:27.143
- - a relationship with god
- 00:21:27.677 --> 00:21:28.878
- Deeply impacts our ability to discern
- 00:21:28.878 --> 00:21:31.381
- Whether our dream is actually from god
- 00:21:31.381 --> 00:21:33.549
- Because ultimately the real dream,
- 00:21:33.549 --> 00:21:36.486
- The ultimate dream is to know jesus
- 00:21:36.486 --> 00:21:39.188
- Intimately, authentically, passionately.
- 00:21:39.188 --> 00:21:41.724
- So our communion with the presence of god
- 00:21:41.724 --> 00:21:44.660
- Has to be the ultimate dream.
- 00:21:44.660 --> 00:21:47.563
- And anything else, any other ambition that we have
- 00:21:47.563 --> 00:21:50.333
- Really falls second to that.
- 00:21:50.333 --> 00:21:52.702
- And so without having a relationship with god,
- 00:21:52.702 --> 00:21:56.205
- Really our dreams and ambitions are really out of order.
- 00:21:56.205 --> 00:22:01.043
- - you mentioned joseph,
- 00:22:01.043 --> 00:22:02.645
- There's a reference to joseph in the book of acts
- 00:22:02.645 --> 00:22:05.381
- Where it says that god was with them in all his ways.
- 00:22:05.381 --> 00:22:08.117
- It's not exact, but it's 12 words.
- 00:22:08.117 --> 00:22:10.520
- 14 years, that's how long it took from when he got the dream
- 00:22:10.520 --> 00:22:14.257
- To suddenly being raised up in the dream becoming a reality.
- 00:22:14.257 --> 00:22:18.060
- So i think there's something about the dream
- 00:22:18.060 --> 00:22:21.798
- That is more about who god is calling us to be,
- 00:22:21.798 --> 00:22:24.434
- Who we're becoming in the process.
- 00:22:24.434 --> 00:22:25.835
- - that's so true.
- 00:22:25.835 --> 00:22:27.103
- - and some days i'm thinking of people
- 00:22:27.103 --> 00:22:28.905
- Watching, thinking "well something devastating
- 00:22:28.905 --> 00:22:30.907
- "happened in my life, there was some trauma,
- 00:22:30.907 --> 00:22:32.408
- "some tragedy so the dream is gone."
- 00:22:32.408 --> 00:22:34.210
- That is not true.
- 00:22:34.210 --> 00:22:35.611
- - yeah. - absolutely not true.
- 00:22:35.611 --> 00:22:37.246
- Sometimes the very thing that you think
- 00:22:37.246 --> 00:22:38.581
- Was the worst thing that could happen,
- 00:22:38.581 --> 00:22:41.083
- It's like joseph at the end saying
- 00:22:41.083 --> 00:22:42.752
- You intended this for evil,
- 00:22:42.752 --> 00:22:43.753
- But god intended it for good.
- 00:22:43.753 --> 00:22:45.688
- - yeah. - but in retrospect you see
- 00:22:45.688 --> 00:22:47.623
- "wow, that thing i would run a million miles from
- 00:22:47.623 --> 00:22:49.959
- "is the very thing that god is now using you
- 00:22:49.959 --> 00:22:52.295
- "to communicate his love to other people."
- 00:22:52.295 --> 00:22:54.797
- - it's probably why he doesn't give us the blueprint
- 00:22:54.797 --> 00:22:57.333
- 'cause if we saw what we were gonna have to go through
- 00:22:57.333 --> 00:22:59.502
- To get there we'd be like no thanks.
- 00:22:59.502 --> 00:23:00.937
- - 100%.
- 00:23:00.937 --> 00:23:02.438
- That's what i used to say to my mom when i was little
- 00:23:02.438 --> 00:23:04.974
- 'cause she had this big text up on her wall
- 00:23:04.974 --> 00:23:06.576
- About "i know the plans i have for you, says the lord."
- 00:23:06.576 --> 00:23:08.311
- I was just like "can i see the plans?"
- 00:23:08.311 --> 00:23:10.379
- "can i make a few suggestions?"
- 00:23:10.379 --> 00:23:12.081
- "i'll sign off on the plans."
- 00:23:12.081 --> 00:23:13.883
- But now at this age looking back,
- 00:23:13.883 --> 00:23:16.219
- You just see the goodness and faithfulness of god.
- 00:23:16.219 --> 00:23:18.688
- And you're right, faith is investing in his presence.
- 00:23:18.688 --> 00:23:22.024
- Somebody stopped me in the mall the other day,
- 00:23:22.024 --> 00:23:24.594
- And they said "okay, how did you find god's will?"
- 00:23:24.594 --> 00:23:26.696
- - in the mall?
- 00:23:26.696 --> 00:23:28.130
- - in the mall, yeah.
- 00:23:28.130 --> 00:23:29.499
- And i said "honestly i don't think it's lost.
- 00:23:29.499 --> 00:23:31.334
- "i think for me it's a case of staying close to jesus
- 00:23:31.334 --> 00:23:35.171
- "every single day."
- 00:23:35.171 --> 00:23:36.439
- And then you find yourself right there.
- 00:23:36.439 --> 00:23:38.040
- 'cause he opens doors you never thought would open,
- 00:23:38.040 --> 00:23:40.343
- And he closes doors,
- 00:23:40.343 --> 00:23:41.143
- You go "okay, i thought
- 00:23:41.143 --> 00:23:42.378
- "i was going there but apparently not."
- 00:23:42.378 --> 00:23:44.347
- Just being in his presence to me
- 00:23:44.347 --> 00:23:47.116
- Is what makes a difference.
- 00:23:47.116 --> 00:23:49.352
- - i love what it says, hebrews 12:2 says
- 00:23:49.352 --> 00:23:52.088
- "keeping our eyes on jesus,
- 00:23:52.088 --> 00:23:53.322
- "author and finisher of our faith."
- 00:23:53.322 --> 00:23:55.892
- - and i do think it's very easy
- 00:23:55.892 --> 00:23:57.827
- To become consumed with seeing,
- 00:23:57.827 --> 00:24:00.563
- Because you become excited about it,
- 00:24:00.563 --> 00:24:02.832
- But he is the fuel.
- 00:24:02.832 --> 00:24:05.234
- I don't wanna ever accomplish a dream without him
- 00:24:05.234 --> 00:24:09.472
- 'cause he'll only be in my strength.
- 00:24:09.472 --> 00:24:11.874
- - he's the fuel, yeah.
- 00:24:11.874 --> 00:24:12.942
- - but what he adds to that,
- 00:24:12.942 --> 00:24:14.510
- He takes it way beyond what i could have ever.
- 00:24:14.510 --> 00:24:16.379
- And he's always consistently done that.
- 00:24:16.379 --> 00:24:18.047
- And so i understand now that everything i've walked through
- 00:24:18.047 --> 00:24:23.152
- In the past 40,
- 00:24:23.553 --> 00:24:24.253
- Well i'm 65 now,
- 00:24:24.253 --> 00:24:25.555
- And even in those spaces that felt confining,
- 00:24:25.555 --> 00:24:28.558
- You're like "why have this big dream"...
- 00:24:28.558 --> 00:24:29.992
- - but i feel so confined right now.
- 00:24:30.793 --> 00:24:32.929
- It's being able to connect
- 00:24:32.929 --> 00:24:35.131
- And keep that intimacy with jesus.
- 00:24:35.131 --> 00:24:37.567
- Because it's his endurance, his strength,
- 00:24:37.567 --> 00:24:40.436
- His patience, his character.
- 00:24:40.436 --> 00:24:42.872
- - and all those things along the way are refining.
- 00:24:42.872 --> 00:24:44.640
- - yes.
- 00:24:44.640 --> 00:24:46.075
- - they're refining those things in us that must die so
- 00:24:46.075 --> 00:24:48.844
- That when he's ready to move us to that next step,
- 00:24:48.844 --> 00:24:51.914
- Our hearts are pure.
- 00:24:51.914 --> 00:24:54.150
- I mean, that's what we pray all the time in our family.
- 00:24:54.150 --> 00:24:56.786
- Clean hands, pure heart, lord, just refine, refine, refine.
- 00:24:56.786 --> 00:25:01.691
- - what it looks like to draw near to god, really,
- 00:25:02.658 --> 00:25:05.628
- Is growing in awareness of his nearness.
- 00:25:05.628 --> 00:25:09.198
- And so, we could live our lives with somebody,
- 00:25:09.198 --> 00:25:12.001
- But that does not mean that we are aware of their nearness,
- 00:25:12.001 --> 00:25:15.137
- That we are aware that they are there.
- 00:25:15.137 --> 00:25:16.739
- God is with you right now. he's hearing you breathe.
- 00:25:16.739 --> 00:25:20.109
- He could hear your thoughts. he could see your heart.
- 00:25:20.109 --> 00:25:23.279
- And so growing in awareness of that and giving him
- 00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:27.249
- Our attention in that allows us
- 00:25:27.249 --> 00:25:29.952
- To draw near to his presence.
- 00:25:29.952 --> 00:25:32.254
- - you've been on a special diet plan to build
- 00:25:33.189 --> 00:25:36.792
- Your muscles, right?
- 00:25:36.792 --> 00:25:38.127
- (hosts laughing)
- 00:25:38.127 --> 00:25:39.495
- - [blynda] terrible time. i know. (hosts laughing)
- 00:25:39.495 --> 00:25:41.030
- But you look phenomenal, but you had to change your diet.
- 00:25:41.030 --> 00:25:43.833
- And i think part of keeping our gaze
- 00:25:43.833 --> 00:25:46.268
- On jesus is changing our diet.
- 00:25:46.268 --> 00:25:48.237
- What are we putting in?
- 00:25:48.237 --> 00:25:49.772
- - yeah.
- 00:25:49.772 --> 00:25:50.873
- - and not just the intentionality,
- 00:25:50.873 --> 00:25:51.807
- I had to become so intentional.
- 00:25:51.807 --> 00:25:53.209
- We had to start preparing meals ahead of time so
- 00:25:53.209 --> 00:25:56.512
- That we would have enough of the food prepared for us
- 00:25:56.512 --> 00:26:00.082
- That we could take it when we needed because if we waited
- 00:26:00.082 --> 00:26:03.252
- For that moment to make it, we were gonna make a bad choice.
- 00:26:03.252 --> 00:26:06.222
- - so if you only ate the food and didn't work out,
- 00:26:06.222 --> 00:26:09.959
- You still wouldn't have built the muscle.
- 00:26:09.959 --> 00:26:11.861
- You needed to combine the discipline on every level.
- 00:26:11.861 --> 00:26:15.531
- And i think that discipline starts with jesus.
- 00:26:15.531 --> 00:26:19.402
- Like, i wanna see you.
- 00:26:19.402 --> 00:26:21.470
- - [blynda] yeah. that's so good.
- 00:26:21.470 --> 00:26:23.305
- - even if the dream doesn't happen,
- 00:26:23.305 --> 00:26:24.774
- I wanna see the dream happen, but i wanna see you.
- 00:26:24.774 --> 00:26:26.876
- Like, i tell this all the time,
- 00:26:26.876 --> 00:26:29.211
- Over 40 years of serving jesus,
- 00:26:29.211 --> 00:26:30.646
- My most important meeting is every morning i sit down
- 00:26:30.646 --> 00:26:33.416
- And have a cup of coffee and i'm sitting
- 00:26:33.416 --> 00:26:34.884
- With my best friend.
- 00:26:34.884 --> 00:26:35.951
- - yeah.
- 00:26:35.951 --> 00:26:37.486
- - there's still mornings where i may hear nothing,
- 00:26:38.454 --> 00:26:41.757
- But he's there.
- 00:26:41.757 --> 00:26:42.925
- And it's reassessing.
- 00:26:42.925 --> 00:26:44.126
- It's like you said, he's with us.
- 00:26:44.126 --> 00:26:46.696
- You have to walk with that knowing
- 00:26:46.696 --> 00:26:48.330
- That he's good and he's with us.
- 00:26:48.330 --> 00:26:51.000
- And you don't have to do anything to please him.
- 00:26:51.934 --> 00:26:52.735
- You already do.
- 00:26:52.735 --> 00:26:54.036
- That shifts the whole dynamic of a dream.
- 00:26:54.036 --> 00:26:56.439
- - well, and when you think about being responsible
- 00:26:56.439 --> 00:27:00.342
- To make it happen, you're not responsible to make it happen.
- 00:27:00.342 --> 00:27:03.779
- - right.
- 00:27:03.779 --> 00:27:05.347
- - your will, what do you want today? where do i go today?
- 00:27:05.347 --> 00:27:08.317
- And the holy spirit will lead and guide us.
- 00:27:08.317 --> 00:27:10.352
- That's what he's there for. he's our helper.
- 00:27:10.352 --> 00:27:13.155
- To help us in all of our ways.
- 00:27:13.155 --> 00:27:15.791
- And so you're not left alone.
- 00:27:15.791 --> 00:27:18.661
- It's not up to you to fulfill your purpose and your destiny.
- 00:27:18.661 --> 00:27:22.465
- - so true.
- 00:27:22.465 --> 00:27:23.699
- - [donna] it's up to god to do that
- 00:27:23.699 --> 00:27:25.735
- And surrendering to god's will.
- 00:27:25.735 --> 00:27:28.504
- - and really understanding even what you're saying, donna,
- 00:27:29.605 --> 00:27:30.973
- Is if you've ever sat with an elderly person
- 00:27:30.973 --> 00:27:33.976
- Who is so in love with jesus, that's like my grandmother,
- 00:27:33.976 --> 00:27:38.414
- I'm thinking of her, and on paper, very simple woman.
- 00:27:38.414 --> 00:27:43.085
- She never led any massive ministries.
- 00:27:43.919 --> 00:27:45.654
- She would've sat there and said she fulfilled
- 00:27:45.654 --> 00:27:48.991
- Everything god had for her life
- 00:27:48.991 --> 00:27:50.793
- Because she kept him at the center.
- 00:27:50.793 --> 00:27:52.728
- So that was reflected in how she raised her children.
- 00:27:52.728 --> 00:27:54.930
- It was reflected in how loyal she was to her church,
- 00:27:54.930 --> 00:27:57.032
- To serving it and to just being a faithful church member.
- 00:27:57.032 --> 00:28:00.236
- So i think sometimes we forget if we take it
- 00:28:00.236 --> 00:28:03.172
- Down to the nth degree, it's how much did we love him?
- 00:28:03.172 --> 00:28:06.475
- Was he enough for us?
- 00:28:06.475 --> 00:28:08.177
- - yeah.
- 00:28:08.177 --> 00:28:09.011
- - just give me jesus.
- 00:28:09.011 --> 00:28:10.980
- All the other stuff, that's great.
- 00:28:10.980 --> 00:28:12.715
- In fact, ephesians 3:20 says,
- 00:28:12.715 --> 00:28:15.184
- He'll do immeasurably more than we could imagine.
- 00:28:15.184 --> 00:28:16.886
- So when we just put it in his hands,
- 00:28:16.886 --> 00:28:18.621
- He'll do more than we could ever think or imagine,
- 00:28:18.621 --> 00:28:20.523
- But are we okay when jesus is enough?
- 00:28:20.523 --> 00:28:23.359
- - yeah.
- 00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:25.027
- - when he's everything, and i think about my grandmother,
- 00:28:25.027 --> 00:28:25.995
- And i think, on paper, yeah.
- 00:28:25.995 --> 00:28:28.164
- - [faith] yeah.
- 00:28:28.164 --> 00:28:29.431
- - jesus was enough.
- 00:28:29.899 --> 00:28:31.400
- Because every dream that she had in her heart was fulfilled
- 00:28:31.400 --> 00:28:32.501
- By the time she passed away.
- 00:28:32.501 --> 00:28:34.170
- I think it's important that our dreams always point
- 00:28:35.237 --> 00:28:37.506
- Back to god because our heart is fallible.
- 00:28:37.506 --> 00:28:39.942
- Man's heart is fallible.
- 00:28:39.942 --> 00:28:41.510
- And so it can be driven by emotion,
- 00:28:41.510 --> 00:28:42.912
- Or can be driven by insecurity.
- 00:28:42.912 --> 00:28:44.480
- There's a lot of things that can drive the things
- 00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:47.082
- That fuel our dreams.
- 00:28:47.082 --> 00:28:48.684
- But if it's centered in god,
- 00:28:48.684 --> 00:28:50.753
- If every dream we have is surrendered to god
- 00:28:50.753 --> 00:28:53.656
- And then moved forward by god, we know
- 00:28:53.656 --> 00:28:56.458
- That god's word is infallible.
- 00:28:56.458 --> 00:28:58.694
- We know that his heart toward us is unconditional love.
- 00:28:58.694 --> 00:29:02.331
- And so we can always trust that our dream is in
- 00:29:02.331 --> 00:29:05.601
- The best hands when we point it exactly toward our father.
- 00:29:05.601 --> 00:29:09.605
- - so i wanna bring up a question that i know
- 00:29:10.539 --> 00:29:13.242
- That a lot of women really struggle with,
- 00:29:13.242 --> 00:29:16.045
- Which is, what if i got it wrong?
- 00:29:16.045 --> 00:29:19.148
- - yeah. it's good.
- 00:29:19.148 --> 00:29:20.716
- - you know, and it's that nagging question
- 00:29:20.716 --> 00:29:23.085
- That often plagues people in a way, refrain,
- 00:29:23.085 --> 00:29:27.923
- From wanting to take a risk, try something new.
- 00:29:27.923 --> 00:29:31.894
- Kind of like, who do i think i am?
- 00:29:31.894 --> 00:29:34.830
- (person laughing) you know, what made me think
- 00:29:34.830 --> 00:29:37.066
- That this could be really from god, you know?
- 00:29:37.066 --> 00:29:39.602
- And i know that, you know, as people are probably listening
- 00:29:39.602 --> 00:29:43.939
- In, some may be like, well, they seem really sure
- 00:29:43.939 --> 00:29:47.543
- That this was from god,
- 00:29:47.543 --> 00:29:49.778
- At least like the start of it, right?
- 00:29:49.778 --> 00:29:52.014
- So if somebody were to bring this question to the table,
- 00:29:52.014 --> 00:29:56.252
- What if i got it wrong?
- 00:29:56.252 --> 00:29:58.087
- What if i really did think that this was from god
- 00:29:58.087 --> 00:30:01.056
- And i made the steps, i took the risks,
- 00:30:01.924 --> 00:30:04.193
- But it probably wasn't from god.
- 00:30:04.193 --> 00:30:06.929
- You know, when they find themselves in the guilt
- 00:30:06.929 --> 00:30:08.964
- And shame in that.
- 00:30:08.964 --> 00:30:10.833
- - so good.
- 00:30:11.133 --> 00:30:12.268
- - [faith] how do we counsel someone?
- 00:30:12.268 --> 00:30:13.369
- - and that's never from god.
- 00:30:13.369 --> 00:30:14.536
- I don't think that's ever from god.
- 00:30:14.536 --> 00:30:16.238
- I mean, that's why i love in romans chapter eight verse one
- 00:30:16.238 --> 00:30:19.541
- Where it talks about, there is now,
- 00:30:19.541 --> 00:30:21.143
- Therefore no condemnation.
- 00:30:21.143 --> 00:30:22.444
- There might be conviction,
- 00:30:22.444 --> 00:30:23.746
- But conviction draws me closer to the lord.
- 00:30:23.746 --> 00:30:24.680
- Condemnation pushes me away.
- 00:30:24.680 --> 00:30:26.782
- - [guest] right.
- 00:30:26.782 --> 00:30:27.883
- - and i think it all comes down to
- 00:30:27.883 --> 00:30:29.184
- Whether we believe god is sovereign or not.
- 00:30:29.184 --> 00:30:30.619
- - yeah.
- 00:30:30.619 --> 00:30:31.987
- - if i believe as i do, as deep as the marrow
- 00:30:31.987 --> 00:30:34.123
- In my bones, that god is in control, that god is good.
- 00:30:34.123 --> 00:30:36.592
- I'm human. i'm sinner. i'll make mistakes.
- 00:30:36.592 --> 00:30:39.895
- But god knows my heart.
- 00:30:39.895 --> 00:30:41.030
- - [guest] right.
- 00:30:41.030 --> 00:30:42.398
- - you know, i want to do the things that honor him.
- 00:30:42.398 --> 00:30:43.832
- And i love what tozer wrote in one of his books.
- 00:30:43.832 --> 00:30:45.601
- What comes to your mind when you think about god,
- 00:30:45.601 --> 00:30:48.570
- Is the most important thing about you.
- 00:30:48.570 --> 00:30:51.073
- And for so long, what came to my mind when i thought
- 00:30:51.073 --> 00:30:54.510
- About god was, i'll try really hard to get it right.
- 00:30:54.510 --> 00:30:56.712
- And then when that shifted massively,
- 00:30:56.712 --> 00:31:00.816
- And then it became, you know what, you are good
- 00:31:00.816 --> 00:31:02.685
- And you are in control and you've already done this.
- 00:31:02.685 --> 00:31:05.521
- And i'm showing up every day.
- 00:31:05.521 --> 00:31:06.956
- And i've made that a prayer.
- 00:31:06.956 --> 00:31:08.891
- It was one of our better togethers,
- 00:31:08.891 --> 00:31:10.159
- I can't remember who it was who said it,
- 00:31:10.159 --> 00:31:11.260
- But they said, my daily prayer is,
- 00:31:11.260 --> 00:31:14.129
- Holy spirit, what do you want me to do today?
- 00:31:14.129 --> 00:31:15.898
- And i've started doing that every day, now.
- 00:31:15.898 --> 00:31:18.434
- I've just like, holy spirit give me eyes to see
- 00:31:18.434 --> 00:31:19.935
- What i should do today, conversations i should have.
- 00:31:19.935 --> 00:31:23.072
- Rather than this, i think we make it very complicated.
- 00:31:24.173 --> 00:31:26.809
- And i don't think it's complicated.
- 00:31:27.543 --> 00:31:28.744
- I think we just take the next step.
- 00:31:28.744 --> 00:31:31.747
- - which is why women are stopping you in the mall saying,
- 00:31:31.747 --> 00:31:33.782
- Tell me about the will of god. (people laughing)
- 00:31:33.782 --> 00:31:35.818
- Because you said, keep my eyes open to conversations.
- 00:31:35.818 --> 00:31:40.155
- I think often it's an okay and common question to say,
- 00:31:41.256 --> 00:31:44.293
- Am i going in the right direction?
- 00:31:44.293 --> 00:31:45.794
- Have i heard god about this dream?
- 00:31:45.794 --> 00:31:47.997
- And i think, though it's a good question,
- 00:31:47.997 --> 00:31:48.931
- I think the bigger question is,
- 00:31:48.931 --> 00:31:50.766
- What do you think about who god is?
- 00:31:50.766 --> 00:31:53.168
- Because if you think of him as a demanding father
- 00:31:53.168 --> 00:31:57.573
- Who makes sure that you don't ever step out of line
- 00:31:57.573 --> 00:32:00.976
- And you don't ever choose the wrong thing,
- 00:32:00.976 --> 00:32:02.878
- Then you're going to have a lot of trepidation
- 00:32:02.878 --> 00:32:05.647
- About stepping out in faith into the dream
- 00:32:05.647 --> 00:32:06.915
- That you have in your heart.
- 00:32:06.915 --> 00:32:08.450
- But if you believe that god is a god of mercy and grace,
- 00:32:08.450 --> 00:32:12.554
- In fact, it's grace upon grace that there's no
- 00:32:12.554 --> 00:32:15.424
- End to his unconditional love, there's no end to his grace,
- 00:32:15.424 --> 00:32:18.861
- Then you have an expansive area to move in,
- 00:32:18.861 --> 00:32:23.365
- To walk into that next step
- 00:32:23.365 --> 00:32:25.334
- And try what you think god is saying to do.
- 00:32:25.334 --> 00:32:29.905
- And this is what i love about the lord,
- 00:32:29.905 --> 00:32:31.073
- Is if it is a misstep of some way,
- 00:32:31.073 --> 00:32:33.575
- He just is a gentle father that will redirect you.
- 00:32:33.575 --> 00:32:36.812
- But don't be afraid to take that step
- 00:32:36.812 --> 00:32:38.847
- Because you think there's not enough grace from the lord
- 00:32:38.847 --> 00:32:41.450
- That you might make a misstep.
- 00:32:41.450 --> 00:32:43.485
- Don't think of it that way.
- 00:32:43.485 --> 00:32:44.887
- Think about a loving father that has so much grace.
- 00:32:44.887 --> 00:32:48.223
- All he's saying is, go for it, girl.
- 00:32:48.223 --> 00:32:50.492
- You've got it. just go for it.
- 00:32:50.492 --> 00:32:54.063
- I just had this image.
- 00:32:54.563 --> 00:32:56.265
- I saw these like young toddlers playing in the park,
- 00:32:56.265 --> 00:32:59.835
- You know, a parent, as you would take
- 00:32:59.835 --> 00:33:01.437
- Your kids to the park and play and near the park was a pond.
- 00:33:01.437 --> 00:33:04.073
- And the parent is saying, there's swings
- 00:33:04.073 --> 00:33:05.941
- And there's slides,
- 00:33:05.941 --> 00:33:07.342
- There's, you know, the little fire pole you can go down,
- 00:33:07.342 --> 00:33:10.479
- Play, play, play, do what you want.
- 00:33:10.479 --> 00:33:12.681
- There's a pond over there and you can't go over there.
- 00:33:12.681 --> 00:33:16.151
- And it's almost as if in some way,
- 00:33:16.151 --> 00:33:17.719
- I don't think we give god credit for
- 00:33:17.719 --> 00:33:20.255
- How wide he gives us to explore in all the gifting
- 00:33:20.255 --> 00:33:25.594
- And all the things, because that child is gonna go
- 00:33:26.628 --> 00:33:28.931
- Down the slide and go on the swings
- 00:33:28.931 --> 00:33:30.132
- And find something they like better.
- 00:33:30.132 --> 00:33:31.733
- And then they wanna go on the swings over and over and over
- 00:33:31.733 --> 00:33:34.670
- 'cause they loved it and it's almost in that regard.
- 00:33:34.670 --> 00:33:36.905
- Okay, the pond could be dangerous
- 00:33:36.905 --> 00:33:39.508
- 'cause you don't know how to swim.
- 00:33:39.508 --> 00:33:40.976
- So he gives us boundaries, but also within that park,
- 00:33:40.976 --> 00:33:43.712
- He lets us play.
- 00:33:43.712 --> 00:33:45.114
- - it's freedom, yeah.
- 00:33:45.614 --> 00:33:46.748
- - find the thing that you like to do.
- 00:33:46.748 --> 00:33:48.083
- Find the bent and the gifting that you have.
- 00:33:48.083 --> 00:33:49.751
- Don't be so concerned that we have a god
- 00:33:49.751 --> 00:33:51.954
- Who is a yes and a no and if you, by chance,
- 00:33:51.954 --> 00:33:54.823
- Go the wrong way, it's all over.
- 00:33:54.823 --> 00:33:57.025
- That's not how i see him.
- 00:33:57.025 --> 00:33:58.627
- That's never how i've felt in my life that he has operated.
- 00:33:58.627 --> 00:34:02.397
- That it's been a little bit like, okay, go down this slide.
- 00:34:02.397 --> 00:34:05.167
- Did you like that? did you feel my presence there?
- 00:34:05.167 --> 00:34:08.403
- Did you feel a gifting there?
- 00:34:08.403 --> 00:34:10.572
- No, okay, let's try the swings.
- 00:34:10.572 --> 00:34:12.074
- It's the idea that i think sometimes he uses our bents
- 00:34:12.074 --> 00:34:15.611
- And our giftings to kind of direct us.
- 00:34:15.611 --> 00:34:18.247
- And as long as it, like i said earlier,
- 00:34:18.247 --> 00:34:20.749
- We come with a pure heart, that says, god,
- 00:34:20.749 --> 00:34:23.385
- I'm just here to serve you.
- 00:34:23.385 --> 00:34:24.620
- Open the doors that only you can open
- 00:34:24.620 --> 00:34:26.488
- And close the doors that you want to close.
- 00:34:26.488 --> 00:34:28.657
- I think it's a little bit less about wrong or right.
- 00:34:28.657 --> 00:34:31.560
- And more about just taking the the next yes step
- 00:34:31.560 --> 00:34:35.664
- And trusting that he'll close the door.
- 00:34:35.664 --> 00:34:38.901
- (gentle music)
- 00:34:39.268 --> 00:34:42.104
- - to step out in faith, it's an action.
- 00:34:42.938 --> 00:34:46.708
- And how we begin is by simply knowing
- 00:34:46.708 --> 00:34:50.279
- That nothing happens to me, it only happens for me.
- 00:34:50.279 --> 00:34:55.551
- That's based on my favorite scripture, romans 8:28,
- 00:34:56.618 --> 00:34:59.821
- Where all things work together for good,
- 00:34:59.821 --> 00:35:02.991
- To those who are called by god, that's you.
- 00:35:02.991 --> 00:35:06.828
- And to step into your calling,
- 00:35:07.462 --> 00:35:09.998
- You overcome fear by walking it out,
- 00:35:09.998 --> 00:35:14.736
- Being aware that god has a better plan for you
- 00:35:14.736 --> 00:35:18.774
- Than you can even dream of.
- 00:35:18.774 --> 00:35:21.710
- In ephesians 3:20, it says, now glory be to god,
- 00:35:21.710 --> 00:35:25.847
- Who by his mighty power at work within us,
- 00:35:25.847 --> 00:35:28.383
- Is able to do far more than we can even dare to dream of.
- 00:35:29.551 --> 00:35:34.156
- God has something magnificent planned for you
- 00:35:35.123 --> 00:35:38.694
- And it begins by saying, i start now.
- 00:35:38.694 --> 00:35:42.731
- I'm ready god, because i know nothing happens to me,
- 00:35:42.731 --> 00:35:48.070
- It only happens for me, and you are with me, god.
- 00:35:49.037 --> 00:35:52.074
- I encourage you.
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- (gentle music)
- 00:36:06.521 --> 00:36:09.558
- - there have been things that my husband and i have done,
- 00:36:10.726 --> 00:36:12.361
- Now looking back on it, probably every person
- 00:36:12.361 --> 00:36:16.298
- Around us would say, that was a horrible mistake,
- 00:36:16.298 --> 00:36:20.202
- That didn't work out the way you thought
- 00:36:20.202 --> 00:36:22.904
- It was gonna work out.
- 00:36:23.405 --> 00:36:24.606
- God will turn everything for our good.
- 00:36:24.606 --> 00:36:27.342
- - absolutely.
- 00:36:27.342 --> 00:36:28.677
- - right, so nothing, if we can get the mindset
- 00:36:28.677 --> 00:36:31.346
- That everything belongs to god,
- 00:36:31.346 --> 00:36:34.182
- There is nothing lost in his kingdom
- 00:36:34.182 --> 00:36:37.619
- And everything belongs to god.
- 00:36:37.619 --> 00:36:40.922
- So our steps of faith are going after something
- 00:36:40.922 --> 00:36:45.494
- That maybe you did feel god had called you to
- 00:36:45.494 --> 00:36:48.830
- And then that looks like it failed.
- 00:36:49.631 --> 00:36:52.000
- And it's like, it's happened to us.
- 00:36:52.801 --> 00:36:54.269
- - sure.
- 00:36:54.269 --> 00:36:55.370
- - big time, but through those circumstances,
- 00:36:56.305 --> 00:36:59.441
- God has taught us things.
- 00:36:59.441 --> 00:37:01.810
- We see god in a different way.
- 00:37:01.810 --> 00:37:04.012
- We know him in a different way and was that valuable?
- 00:37:04.012 --> 00:37:08.417
- That was priceless.
- 00:37:08.417 --> 00:37:10.252
- - right.
- 00:37:10.252 --> 00:37:11.520
- - right? to where god wants to take you.
- 00:37:11.520 --> 00:37:13.522
- It's never what we do for god.
- 00:37:13.522 --> 00:37:15.757
- It's what god does on the inside of us.
- 00:37:15.757 --> 00:37:18.393
- - and so if we keep that mindset, we can fall,
- 00:37:18.393 --> 00:37:23.332
- I believe you fall forwards every time.
- 00:37:23.332 --> 00:37:26.101
- If you think you have fallen, if you think you have failed,
- 00:37:27.302 --> 00:37:28.837
- - believe if you did it in faith,
- 00:37:29.504 --> 00:37:30.806
- God knows your heart, and you only go forward,
- 00:37:30.806 --> 00:37:33.241
- You fall forward.
- 00:37:33.241 --> 00:37:34.476
- And you'll look back on those mistakes,
- 00:37:34.476 --> 00:37:36.578
- And say, "if it had not been for that,
- 00:37:36.578 --> 00:37:39.481
- I would not be where i am today.
- 00:37:39.481 --> 00:37:41.950
- Look what god has done." (gentle music)
- 00:37:41.950 --> 00:37:44.586
- Yeah, i think god's detours, or those interrupted times
- 00:37:44.586 --> 00:37:48.690
- That we've talked about here on "better together"
- 00:37:48.690 --> 00:37:51.360
- Can be the greatest thing that's ever happened to you.
- 00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:55.063
- And in those times, and maybe it's shaken your world,
- 00:37:55.063 --> 00:37:58.300
- Give god those times,
- 00:37:58.300 --> 00:38:00.102
- Ask god to bring the good,
- 00:38:00.102 --> 00:38:05.040
- Let you see the good, focus on the good in those times,
- 00:38:05.040 --> 00:38:08.844
- Because that's what his promise is.
- 00:38:08.844 --> 00:38:10.545
- He will take everything, that means the good times,
- 00:38:10.545 --> 00:38:13.248
- The bad times, the times of sorrow, times of shame,
- 00:38:13.248 --> 00:38:16.451
- He will turn them somehow for your good
- 00:38:16.451 --> 00:38:20.822
- So that he gets the glory.
- 00:38:20.822 --> 00:38:22.524
- - speak to that fear of failure,
- 00:38:23.158 --> 00:38:24.526
- As somebody who has had that,
- 00:38:24.526 --> 00:38:26.428
- I think that is gripping for women,
- 00:38:26.428 --> 00:38:28.830
- That idea of failure and that all could be lost.
- 00:38:29.765 --> 00:38:32.234
- - you know what happened to me?
- 00:38:32.234 --> 00:38:33.869
- Something that looked like, and it hurt,
- 00:38:33.869 --> 00:38:36.872
- It was something that was just painful for me personally.
- 00:38:36.872 --> 00:38:40.342
- And it was kind of a sore subject too,
- 00:38:40.342 --> 00:38:42.978
- (chuckles) when i prayed about it,
- 00:38:42.978 --> 00:38:44.379
- Because it felt like we lost something.
- 00:38:44.379 --> 00:38:47.749
- And i didn't understand it for years,
- 00:38:47.749 --> 00:38:50.318
- And so it was like, "god, you own it, it's yours,
- 00:38:50.318 --> 00:38:53.755
- It belongs to you anyway,"
- 00:38:53.755 --> 00:38:55.257
- And it didn't belong to me anyway,
- 00:38:55.257 --> 00:38:57.225
- It was always yours, and now it's gone."
- 00:38:57.225 --> 00:39:00.929
- And a few years later, god spoke to me and said,
- 00:39:00.929 --> 00:39:06.268
- "you got what you'd prayed for, didn't you?"
- 00:39:07.135 --> 00:39:09.137
- And i said, "i got exactly what i prayed for."
- 00:39:09.137 --> 00:39:12.207
- I had believed god for that.
- 00:39:12.207 --> 00:39:14.843
- I got exactly, he said, "why don't you ask me for more?"
- 00:39:14.843 --> 00:39:18.713
- - wow. so good, lori.
- 00:39:18.713 --> 00:39:20.782
- - "ask me for more."
- 00:39:20.782 --> 00:39:22.784
- And i'm telling you guys,
- 00:39:23.318 --> 00:39:27.856
- That changed my life.
- 00:39:28.356 --> 00:39:29.758
- And there comes a point
- 00:39:29.758 --> 00:39:31.526
- Where the sting of that is not there anymore,
- 00:39:31.526 --> 00:39:33.962
- I wouldn't have it back if i could, and i ask god for more.
- 00:39:33.962 --> 00:39:38.233
- And you know what? he gave it to me.
- 00:39:38.233 --> 00:39:40.702
- He gave me more.
- 00:39:40.702 --> 00:39:42.070
- And so i think everything is driving us,
- 00:39:42.070 --> 00:39:44.606
- Everything is baiting, god is always baiting our passion
- 00:39:44.606 --> 00:39:48.743
- For more of him.
- 00:39:48.743 --> 00:39:50.245
- Dig deeper, dig your roots down.
- 00:39:50.245 --> 00:39:52.447
- When you feel like you have maybe lost your dream,
- 00:39:52.447 --> 00:39:55.750
- If maybe you think, well, you have failed god
- 00:39:55.750 --> 00:39:58.286
- And everybody else around you,
- 00:39:58.286 --> 00:40:00.388
- Dig your roots deeper into god.
- 00:40:00.388 --> 00:40:03.792
- Throw yourself, lean on god and say, "god, i need you
- 00:40:03.792 --> 00:40:09.130
- To show me where i am, to help me see something
- 00:40:10.031 --> 00:40:13.235
- To change my perspective of where i'm living,
- 00:40:13.235 --> 00:40:16.371
- And to change what i'm thinking about
- 00:40:16.371 --> 00:40:18.607
- And help me get out of this despair,
- 00:40:18.607 --> 00:40:21.476
- Help me get out of this pit."
- 00:40:21.476 --> 00:40:23.211
- And god will bring you out,
- 00:40:23.211 --> 00:40:25.447
- I believe that with all my heart.
- 00:40:25.447 --> 00:40:26.848
- - yeah. - i do too.
- 00:40:26.848 --> 00:40:27.682
- - and ask him for more.
- 00:40:27.682 --> 00:40:29.184
- Don't ask him for less, ask him for more.
- 00:40:29.184 --> 00:40:32.254
- - psalm 61, "when my heart is overwhelmed,
- 00:40:32.254 --> 00:40:34.923
- Lead me to the rock that is higher than i."
- 00:40:34.923 --> 00:40:37.659
- I turn to that scripture so often.
- 00:40:37.659 --> 00:40:40.028
- Because it's just, yeah,
- 00:40:40.028 --> 00:40:42.130
- What you're saying is absolutely right.
- 00:40:42.130 --> 00:40:44.165
- And there's times when we shelter
- 00:40:44.165 --> 00:40:46.568
- Simply in the goodness of god.
- 00:40:46.568 --> 00:40:48.436
- And even if if it has blown,
- 00:40:48.436 --> 00:40:50.572
- And it seems like it's all fallen apart,
- 00:40:50.572 --> 00:40:52.874
- Where do we take our refuge?
- 00:40:52.874 --> 00:40:54.509
- - and he's not there to punish us.
- 00:40:54.509 --> 00:40:55.877
- - [all] no.
- 00:40:55.877 --> 00:40:57.045
- - we're not in trouble. that's it.
- 00:40:57.045 --> 00:40:59.080
- You're never in trouble.
- 00:40:59.080 --> 00:41:00.615
- If you come to god, he is never gonna hit you over the head.
- 00:41:00.615 --> 00:41:03.985
- He is going to go, "what do you need, baby?"
- 00:41:03.985 --> 00:41:06.655
- - yes, exactly.
- 00:41:06.655 --> 00:41:07.656
- - "what is it that you need?"
- 00:41:07.656 --> 00:41:09.724
- - i think this conversation is really gonna
- 00:41:09.724 --> 00:41:11.393
- Set a lot of people free.
- 00:41:11.393 --> 00:41:12.894
- Because i think, like the through line
- 00:41:12.894 --> 00:41:15.363
- Of a lot of what we're sharing is
- 00:41:15.363 --> 00:41:17.566
- That god allows for a learning curve.
- 00:41:17.566 --> 00:41:21.036
- - yes. - yes.
- 00:41:21.036 --> 00:41:22.304
- - yes.
- 00:41:22.304 --> 00:41:23.438
- - and it's good. (all chuckle)
- 00:41:23.438 --> 00:41:24.973
- - no, he wants us to. - yeah.
- 00:41:24.973 --> 00:41:26.708
- - it's not even allows it, he wants us.
- 00:41:26.708 --> 00:41:29.277
- - oh, absolutely.
- 00:41:29.277 --> 00:41:30.278
- - because we grow and we mature
- 00:41:30.278 --> 00:41:31.846
- And we show fruit, and we bear fruit.
- 00:41:31.846 --> 00:41:35.150
- - and as parents, we would never look at our kindergartner
- 00:41:35.150 --> 00:41:38.420
- Who wasn't able to read, you know, steinbeck or whatever,
- 00:41:38.420 --> 00:41:42.591
- And be like, "why are you not reading this
- 00:41:42.591 --> 00:41:45.260
- At this level yet?"
- 00:41:45.260 --> 00:41:47.095
- We would never shame them for being at a stage
- 00:41:47.095 --> 00:41:50.465
- Where they're learning and growing.
- 00:41:50.465 --> 00:41:52.334
- In fact, we applaud every little thing they do
- 00:41:52.334 --> 00:41:56.771
- That shows that they're learning and they're growing.
- 00:41:56.771 --> 00:42:00.141
- - we have a father who loves even better
- 00:42:00.141 --> 00:42:02.777
- Than we ever could as parents,
- 00:42:02.777 --> 00:42:04.579
- And it's like, do we stop enough to think
- 00:42:04.579 --> 00:42:06.414
- That he's up in heaven going, (taps hands)
- 00:42:06.414 --> 00:42:08.316
- "good, you're doing it, keep going, keep going."
- 00:42:08.316 --> 00:42:11.052
- I know for me, when things are harder,
- 00:42:11.052 --> 00:42:13.922
- I don't see him as the cheerleader, you know?
- 00:42:13.922 --> 00:42:16.191
- - the advocate. - yes, the advocate.
- 00:42:16.191 --> 00:42:18.426
- I'm like, "ouch, this hurts. why are you allowing this?"
- 00:42:18.426 --> 00:42:22.430
- But he's advocating for us in every step, it's so beautiful.
- 00:42:22.430 --> 00:42:26.301
- (gentle music)
- 00:42:26.301 --> 00:42:27.869
- - i think one of the things that can be a little confusing
- 00:42:27.869 --> 00:42:30.338
- About having a dream that god has given you,
- 00:42:30.338 --> 00:42:32.641
- Or maybe even comparing the dream that god has given you
- 00:42:32.641 --> 00:42:35.443
- To dreams that maybe god has given someone else.
- 00:42:35.443 --> 00:42:37.646
- Maybe you look at somebody else's life and think,
- 00:42:37.646 --> 00:42:39.648
- "gosh, they're so much more gifted."
- 00:42:39.648 --> 00:42:42.984
- But every single one of us, i love this,
- 00:42:42.984 --> 00:42:45.153
- We're all made in the image of god,
- 00:42:45.153 --> 00:42:47.022
- And we're made for purpose.
- 00:42:47.022 --> 00:42:49.257
- So whatever god has gifted you with,
- 00:42:49.257 --> 00:42:51.159
- Whatever dream he's put in your heart,
- 00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:52.761
- Whether you think it's a big dream or a small dream,
- 00:42:52.761 --> 00:42:55.897
- As long as you're faithful in that, god will use that,
- 00:42:55.897 --> 00:42:59.234
- And you kind of find it,
- 00:42:59.234 --> 00:43:01.903
- This is why i was put on this earth to do this,
- 00:43:01.903 --> 00:43:04.472
- And then just do it with all your heart.
- 00:43:04.472 --> 00:43:07.208
- - right, like the great commission was never,
- 00:43:07.208 --> 00:43:09.244
- "now go and make perfect decisions
- 00:43:09.244 --> 00:43:10.912
- For the rest of your life," you know? (chuckles)
- 00:43:10.912 --> 00:43:13.648
- But we're here because we're called to love god
- 00:43:13.648 --> 00:43:17.052
- And to love people.
- 00:43:17.052 --> 00:43:18.319
- And i think sometimes in the fear
- 00:43:18.319 --> 00:43:20.522
- Of making the wrong decision,
- 00:43:20.522 --> 00:43:23.658
- So many of us find ourselves holding back from god.
- 00:43:24.693 --> 00:43:28.296
- Kind of like, i don't even wanna try in fear of failure.
- 00:43:28.296 --> 00:43:33.201
- I once had a friend who went on a trip,
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- And you know, she came back and she was like,
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- "i wanted to get you something,
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- But nothing was good enough.
- 00:43:42.911 --> 00:43:44.779
- (all chuckle)
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- And then i was just so afraid that, you know,
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- I'm gonna get the wrong thing for you,
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- So i just got you nothing." (all laugh)
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- You know? - thanks.
- 00:43:52.987 --> 00:43:54.422
- - and i mean, we laughed about it,
- 00:43:54.422 --> 00:43:55.757
- But i was like, man, that kind of sounds like
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- How we could be with god. - so good, yeah.
- 00:43:58.193 --> 00:43:59.828
- - you know, kind of like, you know what,
- 00:43:59.828 --> 00:44:01.596
- There's like a 70% chance that i could be wrong,
- 00:44:01.596 --> 00:44:04.365
- Therefore i'm not even going to try.
- 00:44:04.365 --> 00:44:06.968
- - it's like the talents, - right.
- 00:44:06.968 --> 00:44:09.771
- - the guy said, you scare me as a god,
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- And so i just kept it,
- 00:44:13.208 --> 00:44:15.176
- That i had it when you came back,
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- And i didn't step out, i didn't sow it,
- 00:44:16.511 --> 00:44:19.581
- - [participants] yeah. - you know?
- 00:44:19.581 --> 00:44:21.316
- - yeah.
- 00:44:21.316 --> 00:44:22.684
- And i feel like if somebody's just in the midst
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- Of taking an accidental detour,
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- Or perhaps even an intentional detour
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- That they're finding themselves trying to come back from,
- 00:44:30.058 --> 00:44:33.661
- You know, i would say,
- 00:44:33.661 --> 00:44:35.263
- "isn't he worth just our hundred-percent effort,
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- Even if it came out to failure?"
- 00:44:39.901 --> 00:44:43.238
- - yes. - absolutely.
- 00:44:43.238 --> 00:44:44.439
- - you know, isn't that what it means
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- When we say "you are worthy"?
- 00:44:45.406 --> 00:44:47.442
- You know, you are worthy, you're worthy of it all,
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- You're worthy of my attempts, you're worthy of my tries,
- 00:44:50.945 --> 00:44:55.283
- You're worthy of my try against...
- 00:44:55.283 --> 00:44:57.886
- You know, so many incidents in the bible,
- 00:44:57.886 --> 00:45:00.388
- It required a try again for it to be successful.
- 00:45:00.388 --> 00:45:04.959
- David and the arc. moses and the commandments.
- 00:45:04.959 --> 00:45:08.797
- Right? they had to try again for it to be successful.
- 00:45:08.797 --> 00:45:13.268
- And i think for us to look at the consequences
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- Of our weakness and our failures, and to say,
- 00:45:17.272 --> 00:45:20.942
- "but god, you were worth trying for,
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- You were worth that, yes,"
- 00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:26.815
- I think that honors him just as much as our successes.
- 00:45:26.815 --> 00:45:31.052
- - i don't think you can fail.
- 00:45:31.686 --> 00:45:33.121
- I think you have to reframe failure.
- 00:45:33.121 --> 00:45:34.722
- The whole thing is you, can't fail. it's reframing failure.
- 00:45:34.722 --> 00:45:37.826
- - it's reframing what it looks like.
- 00:45:37.826 --> 00:45:40.161
- - because you can't when he's involved.
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- Because he doesn't know failure.
- 00:45:42.330 --> 00:45:44.399
- There's nothing failed about god.
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- - nothing in his character that's failure.
- 00:45:45.633 --> 00:45:48.069
- (calm music)
- 00:45:48.069 --> 00:45:49.704
- - if you believe that your dreams have been derailed,
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- Just know that they may have been derailed,
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- But they're not destroyed.
- 00:45:56.211 --> 00:45:58.546
- I'm reminded of samson, and how he got derailed
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- From his calling to be this deliverer for israel.
- 00:46:02.283 --> 00:46:07.555
- But in that, he was able to repent
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- And just really get back on the horse
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- And fulfill what god had called him to do.
- 00:46:12.126 --> 00:46:15.463
- And so, yes, have you perhaps disobeyed god,
- 00:46:15.463 --> 00:46:20.034
- Walked away from jesus, had a weakness
- 00:46:20.034 --> 00:46:22.804
- That really got the way of fulfilling your calling?
- 00:46:22.804 --> 00:46:25.940
- Perhaps. but it's not destroyed.
- 00:46:25.940 --> 00:46:28.576
- So you are one prayer away,
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- And you could come back into what god has called you to do.
- 00:46:31.012 --> 00:46:34.349
- Can we just lift up the one that's just listening in,
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- Watching this moment right now?
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- Let me tell you, you're with us.
- 00:46:40.755 --> 00:46:42.824
- You know, we may not physically see you,
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- But you're with us. (gentle music)
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- And we're gonna pray for you right now
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- That you may have just even a piece of a dream, right?
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- Or the shattered pieces of a former dream.
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- But we're gonna pray
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- That the lord will just resurrect hope,
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- That the lord will just bring you back into the heart
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- Of his presence, and that it will be his nearness
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- That will propel you forward.
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- So lord jesus, we pray for the one in regret right now.
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- We pray for the one in shame.
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- We pray for the one that just feels shattered
- 00:47:16.724 --> 00:47:19.427
- Because of past mistakes.
- 00:47:19.427 --> 00:47:21.829
- Wasted time may be what they're lamenting over right now.
- 00:47:21.829 --> 00:47:26.234
- But god, we know, that as long as we remain in you,
- 00:47:26.234 --> 00:47:31.506
- We can do great things. - thank you, lord.
- 00:47:32.407 --> 00:47:33.775
- - lord jesus.
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- So lord, today we choose to remain in you,
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- In our failure, in our weakness,
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- Lord, we remain in you, jesus.
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- And god, for the one that is steeped in regret and shame,
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- May you wash them down by the blood of the lamb,
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- And may you set them free in this time, in this moment.
- 00:47:53.761 --> 00:47:57.065
- In jesus' name we pray, amen.
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- - [all] amen.
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- And let us know how our team can pray for you.
- 00:48:03.171 --> 00:48:06.174
- (light airy music)
- 00:48:06.607 --> 00:48:09.877
- - so belinda, here's your question.
- 00:48:10.645 --> 00:48:12.580
- Cherise asked us this question on tiktok.
- 00:48:12.580 --> 00:48:16.084
- "how do you know if you put yourself there
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- Or if god led you there?"
- 00:48:18.386 --> 00:48:19.654
- - whoo. - it's a good question.
- 00:48:19.654 --> 00:48:20.955
- - cherise, that's a good question, thank
- 00:48:20.955 --> 00:48:22.357
- You for asking it.
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- And i'm not even sure that i'm the expert to answer it,
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- But this is what i can say.
- 00:48:26.060 --> 00:48:27.662
- I think that it's our fruit, they'll know us by our fruit,
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- I think the fruit will speak a lot
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- About if it was us or if it was god.
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- So i think if you are cultivating a
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- Dream in your heart
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- And you're wondering, did i hear that from god,
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- Did i just make that up?
- 00:48:41.142 --> 00:48:42.377
- Well, first part of it is remembering
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- That it's a partnership.
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- So if what you heard feels exciting and fun
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- And you're like,
- 00:48:49.517 --> 00:48:51.019
- Well, in the kingdom everything has to be boring and bad,
- 00:48:51.019 --> 00:48:52.820
- Let me erase that thought.
- 00:48:52.820 --> 00:48:54.322
- When you partner with god, it can be exciting and fun.
- 00:48:54.322 --> 00:48:57.058
- So if that thing in you gets you excited,
- 00:48:57.058 --> 00:48:59.160
- That doesn't mean it was just you, it could be a god dream.
- 00:48:59.160 --> 00:49:02.363
- But the way that you'll really know is
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- If you surrender it to him and his word,
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- And then you walk it out
- 00:49:07.001 --> 00:49:08.403
- And you begin to see fruit when you walk it out,
- 00:49:08.403 --> 00:49:11.606
- And you begin to feel the peace of god,
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- And the joy of god and the faithfulness of god.
- 00:49:14.542 --> 00:49:17.645
- (gentle music)
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- So just begin to walk it out,
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- And i really do think, i know that it's kind of,
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- You want a black and white answer, is it me or is it god?
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- But i think if you are willing to partner with him,
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- If you're willing to come with a pure heart,
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- I think that he will show you as you go on,
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- The parts of it that he wants you to let go of,
- 00:49:32.894 --> 00:49:35.129
- 'cause they were you,
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- And the parts he wants you to focus on, because they're him.
- 00:49:36.731 --> 00:49:38.566
- - yeah, that was great.
- 00:49:38.566 --> 00:49:40.034
- And what we've discovered is god redeems all of it.
- 00:49:40.034 --> 00:49:42.904
- - that's it. - so even if it wasn't him,
- 00:49:42.904 --> 00:49:44.972
- Just turn towards him and say yes,
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- And watch what he does with your yes.
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- - amen.
- 00:49:49.277 --> 00:49:50.278
- (light airy music)
- 00:49:50.278 --> 00:49:53.648
- - so my prayer for the new year comes from a song, actually,
- 00:49:54.782 --> 00:49:59.454
- From "godspell," and i think it's the prayer i pray
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- Every single year, and i think i'm gonna sing it.
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- It's...
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- ♪ day by day
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- ♪ oh dear lord
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- ♪ three things i pray
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- ♪ to see you more clearly
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- ♪ love you more dearly
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- ♪ follow you more nearly
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- ♪ day by day
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- It's my prayer for the new year.
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