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Better Together | When Women Speak Truth - Episode 1028 | January 15, 2025
- You have influence.
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- We are called to be women of action, who speak
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- God's truth with great love.
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- Today we're talking about how to use our voice with
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- Wisdom and grace.
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- Come on, join us.
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- ♪♪
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- What is our purpose?
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- Why do we have a voice?
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- And i love that it says, for this purpose was the
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- Son of god manifest to destroy the works of
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- The evil one.
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- And so jesus went around doing good, freeing
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- People that were oppressed with the devil,
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- Healing the sick, opening blind eyes.
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- And i feel like right now his purpose is also
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- Our purpose.
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- But then i feel like there's this another
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- Layer, and we find this, i love this in matthew
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- Chapter five, verse nine says, you are blessed.
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- When i hear you are blessed,
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- I feel like god's saying, you're equipped, you're
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- Anointed, you're empowered, you are
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- Blessed when you can show people how to cooperate
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- Instead of compete or fight.
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- It's really good, lisa.
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- That is when you discover who you really are.
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- So it's interesting, we discover who we really
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- Are helping other people discover who they are, and
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- Your place in god's family.
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- I love that. as a mother, all of my boys, they're
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- Better fathers, they're better husbands, they're
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- Better christians.
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- I watch them.
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- They're better in every way than john and i were.
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- And remember feeling like my leadership as a mother
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- Was to lift my boys to go higher and to go further.
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- And so we all have purpose.
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- And this crazy thing with women like, okay, well
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- You can lead, but you have authority because
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- This is the thing.
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- So you can speak, but don't speak with
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- Authority because then you're having authority
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- Over men and the kind of hoops that we
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- Have to go through.
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- For some, remember that's so terrifying.
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- No, it is.
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- And we're daughters of god.
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- We don't want to disappoint our father.
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- If his scripture says, i suffer a woman at to
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- Preach or teach or have authority over a man, you
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- Read that and then your husband's get up and say
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- Something in front of the youth, you're like, i'm
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- Going to hell.
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- I'm going to hell if i do that.
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- And so you have this conflict going on
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- In your mind.
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- And so i remember i used to preach with great
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- Boldness in front of women, but not in
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- Front of men.
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- And so i was speaking at a church and this pastor
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- Was, i said, hey, we don't believe in women
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- Preaching at our church.
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- My church doesn't believe in that.
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- He said, well, you're not at your church.
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- You're at my church, and at my church we believe
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- Women should speak.
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- And i was like, okay, this is a problem.
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- So i remember i got up and i ministered the most
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- Ridiculous message.
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- It was a one and done where i put everything as
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- A question.
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- Could it be that possibly, maybe jesus
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- Might want to--
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- I had to have everything as a question and maybe
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- Possibly-- it was like mental gymnastics, me
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- Trying to speak without authority.
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- And the pastor afterwards sat me down.
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- We were actually in the car and i was with chris
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- Caine and he said, you know, embarrassed me today.
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- Wow.
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- I know, i know, thank you.
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- And i said, well, what do you mean?
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- He said, you are all bold with the women and you
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- Get up in front of my congregation and you act
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- Like you don't even know what you're talking about.
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- And i hot flashed and looked at him--
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- Well, yeah, maybe different language.
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- Yes, exactly.
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- And i go home to john and i'm like, john, this is
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- What happened.
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- And john said, okay, lisa, let's talk about this.
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- He said, jesus spoke as one who had authority and
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- He said he didn't speak like the pharisees.
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- And he said, the pharisees put question
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- Marks where jesus put periods.
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- The pharisees put question marks where
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- Jesus put exclamation marks.
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- And he said, when you are trying to do the
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- Religious loopholes, you are actually a pharisee.
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- I'm like, what?
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- You're calling me-- it's not a good speech really.
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- No, he's the perfect catalyst person for me.
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- And he said, this is what you have to do
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- As a woman.
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- He said, i sit with some female ministers and they
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- Are so kind and they are so nurturing.
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- And he said, i just sit there and i'm like, feel
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- So safe, but i don't feel challenged.
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- And he said, then i'm with other ones and i
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- Feel challenged, but i don't feel safe.
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- And he said, you're going to have to find a way to
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- Speak to men where they feel challenged and safe.
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- And i said, i don't know how to do that.
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- And he said, yes you do.
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- You have four sons.
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- That's right.
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- And he said, you have four sons.
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- He said, you know how to speak strength into men.
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- And so if we're trying to lead to dominate, if
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- We're trying to lead to overcompensate because
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- Somebody else told us we couldn't lead,
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- If we're trying to lead from a religious posture
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- Of trying to jump through all the head covering
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- Loopholes, we're going to have a problem.
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- But if we are leading to actually bring people
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- Into the freedom that jesus for his purpose was
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- Manifest and to bring people into who they
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- Really are, their identity in christ, then
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- We're actually serving.
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- The practices that help women speak truth with
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- Authority are the same practices that help women
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- Deepen their relationship with the lord.
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- And i think they are the disciplines that lead you
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- Into the presence of the lord.
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- So studying scripture, finding time to worship
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- And then prayer, those three things i think are
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- Major disciplines that are the launchpads for
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- Anything and everything you will want to do
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- In life.
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- And so when it comes time to speak with authority,
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- What's going to come out is what you've put in.
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- Yes, the word of god. if you've been studying
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- Scripture and inviting the holy spirit into
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- Those moments so that you're not just reading
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- Like it's just regular prose or poetry, but that
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- God himself is coming into the moment and
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- Sparking questions in you that make you study in
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- This direction or highlighting something
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- That you've never seen even though you've read
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- This passage 300 times before.
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- So i think those disciplines are really
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- What give you the confidence when it's time
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- To speak, that you've already been speaking to
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- The lord and about the lord in such truthful
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- Ways that when it comes time to speak with
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- Authority, what's going to come out of you
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- Because that's what you're full of.
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- And when you're squeezed, what's going to come out
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- Is what's in there.
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- Well, then the next time i went to the same church,
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- Sure enough, he asked me to speak again, the pastor,
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- And it was, i told him, i said, well, i don't have
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- My bible.
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- He was like, we can find your bible, but it's not
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- My bible.
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- My bible has everything highlighted.
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- I know where the page is.
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- So no, i can't do it.
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- The pastor said to me, the hand of god is on
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- Your life to speak lisa, and i'm going to push
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- You out until
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- You actually do it.
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- And that was actually a man.
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- And when i think about that, there's so many men
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- That yes, they've oppressed women, but your
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- Dad, ssaying baby girl, janice, you can do
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- Whatever god has called you to do.
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- And i feel like just like your dad said that to
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- You, just like my husband said it to me, he was
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- Saying, do it, but do it as a woman.
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- Don't take on the man's voice.
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- Don't take on the man's demeanor.
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- Be a nurturer.
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- Be a mother.
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- Make sure that you're speaking in a place where
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- You are a mother. in israel, deborah, prophet
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- And judge.
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- But nothing changed until she became a mother.
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- And mothers want more for their children than they
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- Ever experienced themselves.
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- Sometimes if we're not careful, we feel like
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- It's our authority.
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- But if you go back to genesis, god told adam
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- And eve that he had given them both authority
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- To steward.
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- So it's god's authority that he's given us
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- Already over demonic forces, over lies, over
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- Whatever it is that now we are stewarding.
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- And when we keep it to ourselves, then we are
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- Prohibiting any kind of harvest god wants to
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- Bring from whatever we speak.
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- And so it doesn't have to be angry, it doesn't have
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- To be yelling.
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- It's just having this quiet faith or strong
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- Faith that you know who you are.
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- You know what god's called you.
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- You know that you're a daughter of the king and
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- There's nothing that will limit his power flowing
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- Through you because you are stewarding what he
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- Died for you to have.
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- When jesus died on the cross for us, he died
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- For everything.
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- He died for the salvation of our souls, for the
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- Healing of our bodies, for the peace in our
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- Mind, for our sins that we would commit
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- In the future.
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- He paid the price for everything.
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- And he said after he rose again for us, he said,
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- All power and all authority belongs to me.
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- Now you go and you make disciples of
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- Many nations.
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- And he said, i'll go with you.
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- And so as children of god, we get christ
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- Within us.
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- We get the holy spirit within us to empower us
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- With the authority that he says, i have all power
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- And all authority.
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- That means that there is nothing left for
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- Anybody else.
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- There is nothing else that has power and
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- Authority over your life or over my life to rule
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- Or reign in our hearts or in our minds or in our
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- Thoughts or in our circumstances.
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- It all has to bend its knee to the name of jesus.
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- And that's the authority that jesus paid for on
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- The cross to give it to us, to walk in the things
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- That god has paid for already.
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- We already have the victory and we get to
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- Walk in that.
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- I mean, i wrestled a lot with just speaking with
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- Authority as well.
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- Lisa, same thing.
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- I didn't want to sound angry, but i just wanted
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- To sound confident.
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- And i think we lack difference confidence
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- When we don't know who we are in christ.
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- So i think it goes back to who have you
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- Called me to be?
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- And aside from the fact i'm stewarding what you
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- Died on the cross for me, to have that authority
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- Over the enemy.
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- So whether that's from a platform or whether
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- That's over your kids, i am daily declaring over
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- My kids with the authority,
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- I'm stewarding whatever the bible says
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- Over my children.
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- It's a daily declaration. when our son was, he's so
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- Strong-willed, he's also very handsome and single.
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- So i feel like i should throw that out there on
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- Tv, tv right now.
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- But anyways, he was such a mess when he was
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- Literally, he didn't listen to anybody.
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- He didn't listen to any--
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- I was being called into his classroom weekly
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- Having team meetings and he was being kicked out
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- Of our own children's program and we were
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- The pastors.
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- And you know how you can go down the downward
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- Spiral? if we're not careful, he is going to
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- End up in prison.
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- He doesn't listen to authority and you're down
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- There. orange jumpsuits don't look good on--
- 00:11:26.876 --> 00:11:30.546
- Just imagining the worst, adorable.
- 00:11:30.546 --> 00:11:31.680
- And i think he is adorable.
- 00:11:31.680 --> 00:11:33.849
- But i talking to a friend one day and she's like,
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- What is he doing?
- 00:11:35.684 --> 00:11:36.585
- I say, he just won't shut up.
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- He talks all the time.
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- He won't listen to anybody.
- 00:11:38.187 --> 00:11:39.355
- And she said, oh, he's got a gift
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- Of communication.
- 00:11:40.656 --> 00:11:42.291
- So that which appeared to be an intimidator was
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- Actually an indicator of a gift.
- 00:11:44.560 --> 00:11:46.061
- And he's an incredible communicator now, but
- 00:11:46.061 --> 00:11:48.330
- Dennis and i, we've done this with all of our
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- Kids, was we took the authority god had given
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- Us as parents to steward and
- 00:11:52.334 --> 00:11:54.537
- We took scriptures, some of them for jessica, our
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- One daughter,
- 00:11:57.473 --> 00:11:58.340
- I just wrote them on her ceiling.
- 00:11:58.340 --> 00:11:59.408
- I wanted the first thing she saw in the morning
- 00:11:59.408 --> 00:12:00.843
- And the last thing at night to be what god was
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- Saying over her, not what people were saying over her.
- 00:12:02.778 --> 00:12:05.147
- We did this with evan.
- 00:12:05.147 --> 00:12:06.248
- We declared it daily so that we took authority
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- Over anything the enemy was trying to do to
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- Rob and steal.
- 00:12:10.419 --> 00:12:11.787
- So whether it's in your home, whether it's on a
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- Platform, whether it's you're a ceo in a
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- Business or whatever it is, you're an
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- Entrepreneur, you have been given authority
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- To steward.
- 00:12:20.429 --> 00:12:22.464
- It doesn't have to be angry, it shouldn't
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- Be angry.
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- It should be coming out of the confidence of who
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- Christ says you are.
- 00:12:26.402 --> 00:12:28.304
- I think one of the best ways to discover your
- 00:12:28.304 --> 00:12:31.373
- God-given entrustment or your unique gifts is
- 00:12:31.373 --> 00:12:36.245
- Oftentimes it comes as a problem.
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- So we're waiting for an opportunity to arise and
- 00:12:39.548 --> 00:12:42.318
- We're like, i don't see any opportunities.
- 00:12:42.318 --> 00:12:44.153
- I did this for years, but oftentimes i could see
- 00:12:44.153 --> 00:12:46.889
- Problems that needed to be fixed and didn't
- 00:12:46.889 --> 00:12:50.492
- Realize that those opportunities that were
- 00:12:50.492 --> 00:12:52.728
- Being given to me to see something changed often
- 00:12:52.728 --> 00:12:56.065
- Came as a problem.
- 00:12:56.065 --> 00:12:57.333
- So i just want to encourage you that if you
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- Are seeing something that's creating tension
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- Inside of you or something that you think
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- Needs to be changed, pray about it.
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- Ask god how he can use you to serve in that
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- Situation to bring change to it.
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- Not like you're running in and railroading it,
- 00:13:09.912 --> 00:13:11.747
- But you're just coming in with a submissive heart
- 00:13:11.747 --> 00:13:13.782
- And how can i serve in this situation getting
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- God's heart in discernment for whatever
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- That is. three- quarters of the time
- 00:13:18.287 --> 00:13:20.556
- I'm telling right now where god wants to use
- 00:13:20.556 --> 00:13:22.424
- You, it's going to look like a battle.
- 00:13:22.424 --> 00:13:24.093
- It may even look like a failure.
- 00:13:24.093 --> 00:13:26.128
- It may be an obstacle.
- 00:13:26.128 --> 00:13:27.997
- Whatever it is, god's going to use you.
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- He's giving you the eyes to see it.
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- Ask him for the solution.
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- I struggle with the angry part or just because as i
- 00:13:34.970 --> 00:13:38.240
- Read and i'm like, okay, the lord turned over
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- The tables.
- 00:13:41.911 --> 00:13:43.579
- I'm talking taking money changers and their money
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- Buckets out.
- 00:13:46.548 --> 00:13:48.651
- And the part that always gets me is that he took
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- Time to make a whip.
- 00:13:52.388 --> 00:13:56.759
- No, you're right.
- 00:13:56.759 --> 00:13:58.694
- It's like that's some real-- i don't know if
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- Anybody else, i mean, i got spanked as a kid and
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- My mom, anytime a black mother says, go get my
- 00:14:02.798 --> 00:14:06.702
- Belt or go get a switch, you're like, man, dang,
- 00:14:06.702 --> 00:14:10.873
- This is it.
- 00:14:10.873 --> 00:14:11.907
- You know what i'm saying?
- 00:14:11.907 --> 00:14:13.075
- So to think of him standing there making the
- 00:14:13.075 --> 00:14:16.912
- Whip that he's about to use to drive out the
- 00:14:16.912 --> 00:14:20.015
- Animals. i think of the fact where is the place
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- For the anger when you're talking about something
- 00:14:23.185 --> 00:14:26.455
- That is very intense with authority, and have you
- 00:14:26.455 --> 00:14:30.659
- Ever had to and employ anger to talk about an
- 00:14:30.659 --> 00:14:34.496
- Issue that was intense that you had to speak up for?
- 00:14:34.496 --> 00:14:37.433
- And how did you do it?
- 00:14:37.433 --> 00:14:39.868
- Well, i can imagine scenarios with a little
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- Kid because i have little kids where it's like you
- 00:14:42.204 --> 00:14:45.474
- May not push your brother off of the bunk bed.
- 00:14:45.474 --> 00:14:48.610
- You know what i mean?
- 00:14:48.610 --> 00:14:49.712
- And that i'm angry because that's intense
- 00:14:49.712 --> 00:14:51.947
- And you may not do that, but i need to let you see
- 00:14:51.947 --> 00:14:55.617
- That emotion so that you know, actually do not get
- 00:14:55.617 --> 00:14:58.721
- To do that.
- 00:14:58.721 --> 00:14:59.755
- That is dangerous and that is more than a game
- 00:14:59.755 --> 00:15:02.191
- And et cetera.
- 00:15:02.191 --> 00:15:03.792
- This idea even that we don't get to be angry.
- 00:15:03.792 --> 00:15:07.563
- I think we may not be angry with sin, right?
- 00:15:07.563 --> 00:15:11.166
- That's a righteous anger,
- 00:15:11.166 --> 00:15:12.601
- But there is a righteous anger.
- 00:15:12.601 --> 00:15:14.770
- But help me, what does that actually look like?
- 00:15:14.770 --> 00:15:18.273
- One of the ways that i kind of confronted that,
- 00:15:18.273 --> 00:15:20.843
- And i'm thinking a few years back, but i'm
- 00:15:20.843 --> 00:15:22.611
- Working with a ministry and i was put in a
- 00:15:22.611 --> 00:15:24.480
- Leadership position, but i was told that women had
- 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:28.117
- Their desks in this one particular area and where
- 00:15:28.117 --> 00:15:30.352
- Was all these little cubicles?
- 00:15:30.352 --> 00:15:32.254
- And the person who was my boss, my spiritual
- 00:15:32.254 --> 00:15:34.289
- Authority said, sheila, if you'll do that for a
- 00:15:34.289 --> 00:15:36.558
- Year, then after a year if you still feel this is
- 00:15:36.558 --> 00:15:38.894
- Where god wants you to be, then we'll move you
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- Into your own office.
- 00:15:40.662 --> 00:15:42.031
- I was like, yep, absolutely.
- 00:15:42.031 --> 00:15:43.232
- So at the end of the year i went back to that
- 00:15:43.232 --> 00:15:45.601
- Person and said, i love being here.
- 00:15:45.601 --> 00:15:48.237
- I really feel this is where god's called me, so
- 00:15:48.237 --> 00:15:49.638
- Can i move?
- 00:15:49.638 --> 00:15:51.573
- And they said, well, actually, i'm really
- 00:15:51.573 --> 00:15:53.275
- Sorry, but the men here are not comfortable with
- 00:15:53.275 --> 00:15:55.978
- A woman having an office because they call this
- 00:15:55.978 --> 00:15:58.247
- Mahogany row and it's only men who have
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- Offices here.
- 00:16:00.883 --> 00:16:02.484
- And i said, i want to tell you, first of all, i
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- Have loved working with you.
- 00:16:05.954 --> 00:16:07.923
- I have huge respect for you and i'm going to miss
- 00:16:07.923 --> 00:16:10.759
- Being here, but i was serious.
- 00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:14.396
- And he was like, what do you mean?
- 00:16:14.396 --> 00:16:16.231
- I'm like, because well, you gave me your word and
- 00:16:16.231 --> 00:16:19.701
- I was happy to submit to that.
- 00:16:19.701 --> 00:16:21.170
- It made total sense.
- 00:16:21.170 --> 00:16:22.938
- So if you're no longer able to do that, then i
- 00:16:22.938 --> 00:16:24.306
- Need to leave.
- 00:16:24.306 --> 00:16:26.542
- And so by
- 00:16:26.542 --> 00:16:27.776
- The following week i had my office and the
- 00:16:27.776 --> 00:16:29.445
- Person who came after me immediately went into an
- 00:16:29.445 --> 00:16:31.680
- Office even though she was a woman.
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- And it wasn't like a, i'm a pioneer.
- 00:16:33.549 --> 00:16:36.351
- Fighting for something.
- 00:16:36.351 --> 00:16:37.352
- It was like i was fighting for a position
- 00:16:37.352 --> 00:16:39.455
- Or fighting to be.
- 00:16:39.455 --> 00:16:40.656
- It was simply a recognition of--
- 00:16:40.656 --> 00:16:42.458
- It was the principle.
- 00:16:42.458 --> 00:16:43.759
- The principle of something.
- 00:16:43.759 --> 00:16:45.094
- When someone's given you your word and they want
- 00:16:45.094 --> 00:16:46.728
- To do something.
- 00:16:46.728 --> 00:16:48.097
- And i think also the spirit of how we're
- 00:16:48.097 --> 00:16:49.965
- Sharing something. i've learned not to react but
- 00:16:49.965 --> 00:16:52.701
- To respond.
- 00:16:52.701 --> 00:16:54.436
- It's tempting to react and that's when i can
- 00:16:54.436 --> 00:16:56.171
- Tell that i'm not in a good place.
- 00:16:56.171 --> 00:16:57.473
- If i react, it's usually not, it doesn't
- 00:16:57.473 --> 00:17:00.142
- Help anybody.
- 00:17:00.142 --> 00:17:01.310
- I like that.
- 00:17:01.310 --> 00:17:02.411
- But if i can spend time and pray about something
- 00:17:02.411 --> 00:17:03.812
- And think about it deeply and then respond from a
- 00:17:03.812 --> 00:17:06.281
- Place where it's-- and it was no big deal after
- 00:17:06.281 --> 00:17:08.584
- That, it was like, well, of course this should
- 00:17:08.584 --> 00:17:10.252
- Have happened.
- 00:17:10.252 --> 00:17:11.420
- Well that makes sense
- 00:17:11.420 --> 00:17:12.554
- To me because anger, displayed anger is always
- 00:17:12.554 --> 00:17:15.624
- An indicator of what we care about or something
- 00:17:15.624 --> 00:17:17.860
- That we're standing up for that matters to us.
- 00:17:17.860 --> 00:17:20.596
- Counselors will say that depression, the root of
- 00:17:20.596 --> 00:17:23.065
- Depression, the emotional root of it is
- 00:17:23.065 --> 00:17:25.467
- Actually anger. suppressed anger.
- 00:17:25.467 --> 00:17:26.602
- That when you feel like you cannot or
- 00:17:26.602 --> 00:17:29.538
- There's nothing for you to do to protect
- 00:17:29.538 --> 00:17:32.274
- That that you care about.
- 00:17:32.274 --> 00:17:33.642
- And so i love the idea of responding and saying,
- 00:17:33.642 --> 00:17:36.378
- Hey, i care about this so much
- 00:17:36.378 --> 00:17:37.679
- I'm willing to leave because it's
- 00:17:37.679 --> 00:17:39.381
- Upsetting to me.
- 00:17:39.381 --> 00:17:40.549
- And then him having an opportunity to
- 00:17:40.549 --> 00:17:42.518
- Respond to that.
- 00:17:42.518 --> 00:17:43.752
- I love that.
- 00:17:43.752 --> 00:17:46.088
- We are encouraged to speak the truth in love.
- 00:17:46.088 --> 00:17:50.058
- And that's a very powerful combination
- 00:17:50.058 --> 00:17:52.761
- Because sometimes i remember there was a girl
- 00:17:52.761 --> 00:17:54.530
- In our youth group when i was growing up and she
- 00:17:54.530 --> 00:17:57.633
- Was very straightforward and at times it was kind
- 00:17:57.633 --> 00:18:00.536
- Of unkind because i can remember once saying to
- 00:18:00.536 --> 00:18:02.704
- Her, does this dress make me look a little fat?
- 00:18:02.704 --> 00:18:05.641
- She said, yes, and you are a little fat.
- 00:18:05.641 --> 00:18:07.876
- And i was like, okay, well thank you for that.
- 00:18:07.876 --> 00:18:10.846
- There's ways that we can speak truth to one
- 00:18:10.846 --> 00:18:13.182
- Another but do it in kindness.
- 00:18:13.182 --> 00:18:16.051
- And i always know in my own life, if i feel an
- 00:18:16.051 --> 00:18:18.687
- Immediate reaction to want to say something
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- Straight back, i pause because i don't think
- 00:18:21.023 --> 00:18:24.059
- We're called to react to one another.
- 00:18:24.059 --> 00:18:26.195
- I think we're called to respond.
- 00:18:26.195 --> 00:18:28.497
- So if someone, whether it's just in your own
- 00:18:28.497 --> 00:18:32.067
- Home or your work environment or your
- 00:18:32.067 --> 00:18:33.402
- School says something that you think that's not
- 00:18:33.402 --> 00:18:36.672
- Truth, first of all help 'em to understand that
- 00:18:36.672 --> 00:18:41.009
- You heard them.
- 00:18:41.009 --> 00:18:42.177
- I think it's very important for people to
- 00:18:42.177 --> 00:18:43.612
- Feel that they were heard, but then be able
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- To make sure that you respond from a place of
- 00:18:45.981 --> 00:18:48.150
- Love wanting them to end up in a better place
- 00:18:48.150 --> 00:18:51.320
- Rather than you just proving your point.
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- I've been angry about what's happening to women
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- Right now, and i feel like we need to speak the
- 00:19:24.520 --> 00:19:26.589
- Truth as women on two levels.
- 00:19:26.589 --> 00:19:29.892
- I feel like we need to say men don't get to be
- 00:19:29.892 --> 00:19:31.894
- Women, but then i think we also need to say, how
- 00:19:31.894 --> 00:19:34.597
- Has this happened?
- 00:19:34.597 --> 00:19:36.299
- What have we vacated in our lives?
- 00:19:36.299 --> 00:19:41.671
- When you're talking about women thinking, oh, i
- 00:19:41.671 --> 00:19:44.274
- Just stay home or i just do this or i have to, and
- 00:19:44.274 --> 00:19:50.680
- We've diminished certain roles and we've listened
- 00:19:50.680 --> 00:19:54.717
- To counsel that says, if we want to be powerful
- 00:19:54.717 --> 00:19:58.621
- Women, we need to act like men.
- 00:19:58.621 --> 00:20:00.890
- I feel like for so many years there's been this
- 00:20:00.890 --> 00:20:03.960
- Feminist agenda that says, go into the man's
- 00:20:03.960 --> 00:20:07.497
- World, push him aside, beat him at his own game.
- 00:20:07.497 --> 00:20:09.966
- The man is the problem.
- 00:20:09.966 --> 00:20:11.501
- Well, the man is not the answer, nor is he the problem.
- 00:20:11.501 --> 00:20:15.638
- God is our answer.
- 00:20:15.638 --> 00:20:16.739
- I've had to say, what have we done as women
- 00:20:16.739 --> 00:20:20.043
- That we've sometimes devalued this god
- 00:20:20.043 --> 00:20:23.513
- Entrustment. you're talking about when you
- 00:20:23.513 --> 00:20:26.082
- Became a mother, all of a sudden you saw something,
- 00:20:26.082 --> 00:20:28.918
- Something wakes up in your life and you're
- 00:20:28.918 --> 00:20:30.887
- Like, wait, this is divinely woven.
- 00:20:30.887 --> 00:20:33.623
- I could tear somebody's head off if i try and
- 00:20:33.623 --> 00:20:35.024
- Mess with my child.
- 00:20:35.024 --> 00:20:36.426
- And god says that, he says like a mama bear
- 00:20:36.426 --> 00:20:40.596
- Robbed of his cubs like a lioness.
- 00:20:40.596 --> 00:20:42.965
- And there's this attack right now against women
- 00:20:42.965 --> 00:20:47.670
- Where we have culture sexualizing what it means
- 00:20:47.670 --> 00:20:50.406
- To be a woman.
- 00:20:50.406 --> 00:20:51.474
- It's a costume and then we have the church
- 00:20:51.474 --> 00:20:53.443
- Silencing the voice of its daughters.
- 00:20:53.443 --> 00:20:56.045
- We become spectators of our own culture.
- 00:20:56.045 --> 00:20:57.547
- Absolutely.
- 00:20:57.547 --> 00:20:59.082
- And so we need to fight for, not fight against,
- 00:20:59.082 --> 00:21:01.517
- We need to fight for.
- 00:21:01.517 --> 00:21:02.852
- And so i find when people are really angry, there's
- 00:21:02.852 --> 00:21:05.088
- Three stages of anger.
- 00:21:05.088 --> 00:21:06.556
- There's anger and then there's rage
- 00:21:06.556 --> 00:21:09.125
- And there's wrath.
- 00:21:09.125 --> 00:21:11.494
- Rage always looks for a target.
- 00:21:11.494 --> 00:21:12.829
- Anger is like something is not right.
- 00:21:12.829 --> 00:21:15.498
- It's a heightened sense of awareness that
- 00:21:15.498 --> 00:21:17.033
- Something is not right.
- 00:21:17.033 --> 00:21:19.035
- And then rage says, i'm looking for a target, and
- 00:21:19.035 --> 00:21:22.071
- Then wrath says i'm going to punish.
- 00:21:22.071 --> 00:21:23.773
- And god says, the wrath of man or woman never
- 00:21:23.773 --> 00:21:26.275
- Works as righteous purposes.
- 00:21:26.275 --> 00:21:28.211
- So we don't go into the place of punitive
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- And judgment.
- 00:21:30.680 --> 00:21:32.281
- We make place for god to do that.
- 00:21:32.281 --> 00:21:35.885
- But i love the anger as an indicator, and for me,
- 00:21:35.885 --> 00:21:37.653
- Anger was a mass for something deeper,
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- Which was fear.
- 00:21:40.623 --> 00:21:42.225
- And behind the fear was unbelief.
- 00:21:42.225 --> 00:21:44.394
- And so right now i feel like it's so crucial that
- 00:21:44.394 --> 00:21:48.664
- We pioneer like you did for
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- Our daughters because
- 00:21:50.867 --> 00:21:53.236
- If we continue to forfeit what it means to be a
- 00:21:53.236 --> 00:21:54.704
- Woman, that divine entrustment, and i'm not
- 00:21:54.704 --> 00:21:58.141
- Saying we're feminine goddesses. i'm saying god
- 00:21:58.141 --> 00:22:00.843
- Wove us in our mother's womb to be women.
- 00:22:00.843 --> 00:22:04.180
- We've stepped aside in some ways despised our
- 00:22:04.180 --> 00:22:07.083
- Birthright and said, oh women, that's weak.
- 00:22:07.083 --> 00:22:09.685
- No women is beautiful.
- 00:22:09.685 --> 00:22:12.588
- It's the image of god.
- 00:22:12.588 --> 00:22:14.223
- I love how we've been bringing this
- 00:22:14.223 --> 00:22:15.458
- Back to genesis.
- 00:22:15.458 --> 00:22:16.926
- It was ish and isha, they were so closely related
- 00:22:16.926 --> 00:22:20.930
- That their names reflected to one another,
- 00:22:20.930 --> 00:22:24.400
- But we have forgotten that we're an answer and
- 00:22:24.400 --> 00:22:28.504
- We've began to at some level think we're a problem,
- 00:22:28.504 --> 00:22:32.341
- And so can we actually have a voice?
- 00:22:32.341 --> 00:22:34.577
- And then when you think you're a problem, you act
- 00:22:34.577 --> 00:22:36.045
- Like a problem.
- 00:22:36.045 --> 00:22:37.413
- But when you know you're an answer, you act like
- 00:22:37.413 --> 00:22:38.614
- An answer.
- 00:22:38.614 --> 00:22:39.782
- And god is looking for the answer of woman right
- 00:22:39.782 --> 00:22:42.318
- Now and the enemy is terrified that we'll wake
- 00:22:42.318 --> 00:22:44.854
- Up and discover how powerful we are as women,
- 00:22:44.854 --> 00:22:48.858
- As daughters of god, not as pretending to be men.
- 00:22:48.858 --> 00:22:53.963
- There's such a beautiful revelation of the wonder
- 00:22:53.963 --> 00:22:57.700
- Of woman when adam sees her, he says she shall be
- 00:22:57.700 --> 00:23:02.338
- Called woman.
- 00:23:02.338 --> 00:23:04.373
- Now, god had already given adam this
- 00:23:04.373 --> 00:23:06.075
- Incredible job to name every single creature.
- 00:23:06.075 --> 00:23:10.580
- Imagine the brilliance to be able to just
- 00:23:10.580 --> 00:23:12.582
- Make up names.
- 00:23:12.582 --> 00:23:14.517
- That what he saw said, oh, that's what that's
- 00:23:14.517 --> 00:23:16.819
- Going to be called.
- 00:23:16.819 --> 00:23:18.387
- When he saw her, he said, this is bone of my bone.
- 00:23:18.387 --> 00:23:21.057
- This is flesh of my flesh.
- 00:23:21.057 --> 00:23:22.592
- This is woman.
- 00:23:22.592 --> 00:23:24.727
- Woman is our creation name and we're not going
- 00:23:24.727 --> 00:23:26.696
- To be unnamed.
- 00:23:26.696 --> 00:23:29.432
- It is a god-given name.
- 00:23:29.432 --> 00:23:31.000
- And i want to kind of talk about how it's ish
- 00:23:31.000 --> 00:23:32.768
- And isha in the hebrew and this is the
- 00:23:32.768 --> 00:23:35.071
- Beautiful thing.
- 00:23:35.071 --> 00:23:36.706
- It's was so reflective, man, woman, ish, isha, so
- 00:23:36.706 --> 00:23:39.709
- Reflective of each other.
- 00:23:39.709 --> 00:23:41.077
- I like to think of them as two sides
- 00:23:41.077 --> 00:23:44.313
- Of the same coin.
- 00:23:44.313 --> 00:23:46.148
- If you're a coin collector you know that if
- 00:23:46.148 --> 00:23:49.018
- One side is in pristine condition and the other
- 00:23:49.018 --> 00:23:51.454
- Side is all scratched up, the entire coin
- 00:23:51.454 --> 00:23:55.491
- Is devalued.
- 00:23:55.491 --> 00:23:56.859
- God is saying both male and female have equal
- 00:23:56.859 --> 00:24:00.763
- Value in my sight.
- 00:24:00.763 --> 00:24:04.200
- So we need to understand genesis is our
- 00:24:04.200 --> 00:24:07.603
- Divine origin.
- 00:24:07.603 --> 00:24:09.739
- And remember, no matter what the enemy says, he
- 00:24:09.739 --> 00:24:12.708
- Cannot take away that you were created in the
- 00:24:12.708 --> 00:24:15.678
- Image of god.
- 00:24:15.678 --> 00:24:17.914
- It's so funny, my seven-year-old came to me
- 00:24:17.914 --> 00:24:20.650
- After watching seeing a cartoon because he'll
- 00:24:20.650 --> 00:24:24.086
- Search on youtube kids for scripture stories,
- 00:24:24.086 --> 00:24:27.690
- Bless his heart, so precious.
- 00:24:27.690 --> 00:24:29.292
- And he came over and he said one day when of
- 00:24:29.292 --> 00:24:31.928
- Course my husband ej was out of town and it's just
- 00:24:31.928 --> 00:24:34.830
- Me getting the boys ready for school and my
- 00:24:34.830 --> 00:24:36.966
- 7-year-old comes over and he said, boys are
- 00:24:36.966 --> 00:24:39.902
- Supposed to rule over girls.
- 00:24:39.902 --> 00:24:42.605
- And i said, hey babe, that's not really the
- 00:24:42.605 --> 00:24:44.941
- Sentiment, but we'll talk about it later. i'm pulling
- 00:24:44.941 --> 00:24:47.243
- Clothes and--
- 00:24:47.243 --> 00:24:48.611
- He's getting excited.
- 00:24:48.611 --> 00:24:49.712
- Combing girls and he's just like, no, but i just
- 00:24:49.712 --> 00:24:52.014
- Saw it on the video.
- 00:24:52.014 --> 00:24:53.382
- God said, after they sinned, boys are supposed
- 00:24:53.382 --> 00:24:56.218
- To rule over with girls.
- 00:24:56.218 --> 00:24:58.020
- And so i stopped and i thought, doggone it ej, you
- 00:24:58.020 --> 00:25:01.324
- Should be here right now, set this straight.
- 00:25:01.324 --> 00:25:04.860
- But i said, babe, right?
- 00:25:04.860 --> 00:25:07.129
- That's not god's saying that that's what's
- 00:25:07.129 --> 00:25:08.598
- Supposed to happen.
- 00:25:08.598 --> 00:25:09.932
- I said, is that how god created them to interact?
- 00:25:09.932 --> 00:25:12.602
- And he said, no.
- 00:25:12.602 --> 00:25:14.403
- I said, so then it's not a supposed to.
- 00:25:14.403 --> 00:25:16.172
- It's god saying, oh man, now that you've done
- 00:25:16.172 --> 00:25:19.241
- This, this is how it's going to play out.
- 00:25:19.241 --> 00:25:21.711
- And he said, huh.
- 00:25:21.711 --> 00:25:23.946
- And i thought, wow, there are a lot of people that
- 00:25:23.946 --> 00:25:26.882
- Didn't get past
- 00:25:26.882 --> 00:25:28.117
- The 7-year-old boys are supposed to rule over
- 00:25:28.117 --> 00:25:30.219
- Girls moment.
- 00:25:30.219 --> 00:25:31.354
- All it takes is a, i'm like, well, i know who i
- 00:25:31.354 --> 00:25:34.223
- Am and if i let you think this in my house, well
- 00:25:34.223 --> 00:25:37.326
- I'm getting you ready for school,
- 00:25:37.326 --> 00:25:39.562
- You are going to eventually think you get
- 00:25:39.562 --> 00:25:40.896
- To rule over me, little boy.
- 00:25:40.896 --> 00:25:42.231
- And the answer is huh-uh, and i thought, i have to know
- 00:25:42.231 --> 00:25:46.102
- Who i am and god right now so that you can know
- 00:25:46.102 --> 00:25:50.406
- Who you are right now in god and that this is a
- 00:25:50.406 --> 00:25:53.909
- Community that the lord has built.
- 00:25:53.909 --> 00:25:56.345
- I think even with questioning our little
- 00:25:56.345 --> 00:25:59.115
- Kids coming up with all kinds of stuff from
- 00:25:59.115 --> 00:26:01.217
- School, our grandkids, it's the truth of god's
- 00:26:01.217 --> 00:26:04.420
- Word of who he created us to be.
- 00:26:04.420 --> 00:26:07.657
- It's not sin can no longer lord it over us.
- 00:26:07.657 --> 00:26:11.827
- God's word is his design for us is the answer to
- 00:26:11.827 --> 00:26:16.098
- Every question, to every problem.
- 00:26:16.098 --> 00:26:19.802
- What did he do?
- 00:26:19.802 --> 00:26:21.937
- He created male and he created female. that was
- 00:26:21.937 --> 00:26:26.242
- God's best design for all of us.
- 00:26:26.242 --> 00:26:30.713
- And so growing up, questioning or wondering
- 00:26:30.713 --> 00:26:35.284
- Isn't good for that person.
- 00:26:35.284 --> 00:26:37.420
- That's right.
- 00:26:37.420 --> 00:26:38.554
- God has created so much freedom and that was just
- 00:26:38.554 --> 00:26:41.390
- God's perfect design and it is because of the
- 00:26:41.390 --> 00:26:45.294
- Fall of men.
- 00:26:45.294 --> 00:26:46.328
- But if you have our kids questioning that kind of
- 00:26:46.328 --> 00:26:50.366
- Stuff, we have the responsibility to set
- 00:26:50.366 --> 00:26:54.570
- That straight and to answer back with the
- 00:26:54.570 --> 00:26:57.206
- Truth of god's word that will set them free
- 00:26:57.206 --> 00:26:59.275
- For their life.
- 00:26:59.275 --> 00:27:00.743
- That's right.
- 00:27:00.743 --> 00:27:01.844
- We have to know what this says so that when our
- 00:27:01.844 --> 00:27:03.212
- Kids and our grandkids are asking questions, we
- 00:27:03.212 --> 00:27:05.047
- Can tell 'em who they are.
- 00:27:05.047 --> 00:27:06.882
- We can tell 'em who they were born to be.
- 00:27:06.882 --> 00:27:08.818
- We can tell 'em who god created them to be so
- 00:27:08.818 --> 00:27:12.221
- That they don't have to go through this life just
- 00:27:12.221 --> 00:27:14.523
- Questioning and feeling burdened by that.
- 00:27:14.523 --> 00:27:18.594
- Oh, there are so many ways to instill respect
- 00:27:18.594 --> 00:27:20.930
- For women's voices when you're trying to do that
- 00:27:20.930 --> 00:27:24.800
- Amongst children, right?
- 00:27:24.800 --> 00:27:26.569
- I have a 7-year-old and 4-year-old boy, almost
- 00:27:26.569 --> 00:27:29.538
- Eight, almost five, and some of the ways i do
- 00:27:29.538 --> 00:27:34.977
- That are i purposely buy books that most people
- 00:27:34.977 --> 00:27:37.313
- Just buy for their daughters, but i buy
- 00:27:37.313 --> 00:27:40.015
- Books so that my sons can see that authority in
- 00:27:40.015 --> 00:27:44.286
- Women is not scary and that women can be and
- 00:27:44.286 --> 00:27:49.191
- Will be leaders as well.
- 00:27:49.191 --> 00:27:51.494
- And because i want them to not only be
- 00:27:51.494 --> 00:27:53.796
- Comfortable with it, but when they get older and
- 00:27:53.796 --> 00:27:56.265
- It's time to find a wife, i want them to value
- 00:27:56.265 --> 00:28:01.137
- These qualities, but also conversations.
- 00:28:01.137 --> 00:28:04.874
- My kids, oh, at least my eldest asks a lot of
- 00:28:04.874 --> 00:28:07.943
- Questions and they're questions that the
- 00:28:07.943 --> 00:28:09.545
- Younger one wants to know.
- 00:28:09.545 --> 00:28:11.113
- He just lets his big brother be
- 00:28:11.113 --> 00:28:12.381
- The spokesperson.
- 00:28:12.381 --> 00:28:13.582
- But i try to answer those questions.
- 00:28:13.582 --> 00:28:16.318
- I try to pause and ask the holy spirit to come
- 00:28:16.318 --> 00:28:18.220
- On in and help me answer that question so that the
- 00:28:18.220 --> 00:28:21.390
- Answer goes decades past me so that this is not
- 00:28:21.390 --> 00:28:27.563
- Just me trying to hurry up and give an answer
- 00:28:27.563 --> 00:28:32.401
- That will allow me to get out of the moment always
- 00:28:32.401 --> 00:28:35.171
- During a time that's not convenient.
- 00:28:35.171 --> 00:28:37.873
- It's like it's bedtime.
- 00:28:37.873 --> 00:28:38.941
- You want to ask that theological question now.
- 00:28:38.941 --> 00:28:41.043
- Happens every time, and so i think i get them
- 00:28:41.043 --> 00:28:43.913
- Books, but i also have these conversations with
- 00:28:43.913 --> 00:28:45.481
- Them and then my choices are in full view of
- 00:28:45.481 --> 00:28:50.119
- My children. today,
- 00:28:50.119 --> 00:28:51.987
- They know that i'm talking about jesus and
- 00:28:51.987 --> 00:28:55.257
- They know that that's mommy's job and that it
- 00:28:55.257 --> 00:28:58.060
- Is important that mommy does this job and it's
- 00:28:58.060 --> 00:29:01.163
- Outside of them, right?
- 00:29:01.163 --> 00:29:04.133
- Because their whole world is not just me caring
- 00:29:04.133 --> 00:29:06.302
- For them.
- 00:29:06.302 --> 00:29:07.503
- They realize that my husband and i are people
- 00:29:07.503 --> 00:29:09.805
- That belong to god.
- 00:29:09.805 --> 00:29:11.707
- And so then we talk about what we do.
- 00:29:11.707 --> 00:29:13.909
- And so trying in every way to be a woman who is
- 00:29:13.909 --> 00:29:19.548
- Comfortable in my purpose, in full view of
- 00:29:19.548 --> 00:29:22.618
- Them has a lot to do with that.
- 00:29:22.618 --> 00:29:25.855
- There's a conversation that goes on that's very
- 00:29:25.855 --> 00:29:27.723
- Applicable to america or to europe, but what about
- 00:29:27.723 --> 00:29:30.759
- Some of our sisters who watch in different
- 00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:32.995
- Cultures where it's much more of a challenge for a
- 00:29:32.995 --> 00:29:36.799
- Woman to even have a voice and be acknowledged
- 00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:39.068
- As having a voice.
- 00:29:39.068 --> 00:29:40.703
- It's a privilege in this country to say you
- 00:29:40.703 --> 00:29:42.471
- Have a voice,
- 00:29:42.471 --> 00:29:46.308
- To show up and say, i feel differently than how
- 00:29:46.308 --> 00:29:48.310
- I appear in the room, which across the world
- 00:29:48.310 --> 00:29:49.945
- That's not even possible in many ways.
- 00:29:49.945 --> 00:29:53.249
- Then just declaring the purpose of our creation,
- 00:29:53.249 --> 00:29:55.117
- That we were not an afterthought, that we
- 00:29:55.117 --> 00:29:56.619
- Were a necessity, that we were a god idea before
- 00:29:56.619 --> 00:29:59.822
- Adam even realized that he needed-- before the man
- 00:29:59.822 --> 00:30:02.524
- Realized he needed the woman,
- 00:30:02.524 --> 00:30:03.993
- God was like, i got your answer.
- 00:30:03.993 --> 00:30:05.861
- She's inside of you, but she needs to come out and
- 00:30:05.861 --> 00:30:08.731
- Have her own expression and her own voice, and
- 00:30:08.731 --> 00:30:11.634
- There are things for the men to speak to and there
- 00:30:11.634 --> 00:30:13.802
- Are things for the women to speak to.
- 00:30:13.802 --> 00:30:15.504
- And when god gave them dominion, he gave them
- 00:30:15.504 --> 00:30:17.673
- Dominion over everything but each other.
- 00:30:17.673 --> 00:30:20.276
- And we have somehow taken on the fall nature that
- 00:30:20.276 --> 00:30:25.114
- Your desire will be for your husband and he will
- 00:30:25.114 --> 00:30:26.749
- Dominate or lord it over you.
- 00:30:26.749 --> 00:30:29.718
- That wasn't like, oh, thank you.
- 00:30:29.718 --> 00:30:31.553
- It was actually god saying this is what's going
- 00:30:31.553 --> 00:30:33.155
- To happen.
- 00:30:33.155 --> 00:30:34.590
- As i've gotten older, one of the things i've
- 00:30:34.590 --> 00:30:36.091
- Realized as a woman who is also black and there
- 00:30:36.091 --> 00:30:41.397
- Are tons of limitations to be found, right?
- 00:30:41.397 --> 00:30:44.199
- There are tons of ways to see where racism has said
- 00:30:44.199 --> 00:30:49.805
- Something about me that isn't true or is still in
- 00:30:49.805 --> 00:30:53.475
- A system that means that i don't advance as fast.
- 00:30:53.475 --> 00:30:57.913
- But one of the things i have learned about god,
- 00:30:57.913 --> 00:31:00.349
- And this is, i say this for the women around the
- 00:31:00.349 --> 00:31:02.351
- World, one of the things i've learned about god is
- 00:31:02.351 --> 00:31:04.653
- He has actually never for me been limited by any
- 00:31:04.653 --> 00:31:07.990
- Of those things.
- 00:31:07.990 --> 00:31:09.224
- That's so good.
- 00:31:09.224 --> 00:31:10.259
- And when i read scripture, i realize it's
- 00:31:10.259 --> 00:31:11.961
- Not that i, and i'll speak up and say things
- 00:31:11.961 --> 00:31:15.664
- About that because god is also about justice, but i
- 00:31:15.664 --> 00:31:19.101
- Am at the same time holding, standing up for
- 00:31:19.101 --> 00:31:24.773
- Justice and righteousness with the fact that god is
- 00:31:24.773 --> 00:31:27.910
- So creative in his word to actually make sure
- 00:31:27.910 --> 00:31:32.281
- People are seen no matter what culture is doing
- 00:31:32.281 --> 00:31:35.851
- That there is, i would say to the women around
- 00:31:35.851 --> 00:31:39.221
- The world, look out for the ways in which god is
- 00:31:39.221 --> 00:31:41.523
- Making a way for you to look at the roman soldier
- 00:31:41.523 --> 00:31:48.664
- And say, that was a mile.
- 00:31:48.664 --> 00:31:50.265
- Would you like me to carry it two?
- 00:31:50.265 --> 00:31:52.301
- Which in that day it almost seems like rolling
- 00:31:52.301 --> 00:31:54.970
- Over and letting somebody just walk over you.
- 00:31:54.970 --> 00:31:57.706
- But what's powerful about that portion of the
- 00:31:57.706 --> 00:32:01.276
- Sermon of the mount is the lord is saying, i
- 00:32:01.276 --> 00:32:04.146
- Want you to stand up and like you did, respond
- 00:32:04.146 --> 00:32:08.317
- Well when there's injustice at play, when
- 00:32:08.317 --> 00:32:10.519
- You know i've given you a word and culture around
- 00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:13.455
- You doesn't let you give it, but i want you to do
- 00:32:13.455 --> 00:32:16.325
- It creatively so that what you're doing is
- 00:32:16.325 --> 00:32:20.329
- Planting a seed for the person that you're
- 00:32:20.329 --> 00:32:22.364
- Encountering to actually have to answer the
- 00:32:22.364 --> 00:32:24.767
- Question for themselves without you answering it
- 00:32:24.767 --> 00:32:27.770
- For them.
- 00:32:27.770 --> 00:32:28.904
- When it was cultural for jewish people to have to
- 00:32:28.904 --> 00:32:32.041
- Carry, if a roman guard said, carry my belongings
- 00:32:32.041 --> 00:32:35.010
- For a mile, they would have to, and jesus
- 00:32:35.010 --> 00:32:37.513
- Saying, carry it,
- 00:32:37.513 --> 00:32:38.547
- That ask if you can carry that second mile is
- 00:32:38.547 --> 00:32:43.352
- Almost dignifying a person saying, actually,
- 00:32:43.352 --> 00:32:44.853
- You're not the reason i carried it.
- 00:32:44.853 --> 00:32:46.955
- I was in charge.
- 00:32:46.955 --> 00:32:48.023
- I was in charge of whether or not i carried it.
- 00:32:48.023 --> 00:32:50.225
- I like that.
- 00:32:50.225 --> 00:32:51.293
- So much so that i'll offer to carry it again
- 00:32:51.293 --> 00:32:54.329
- Because this is not a thing that you are doing
- 00:32:54.329 --> 00:32:56.165
- To me so good because i actually belong
- 00:32:56.165 --> 00:32:58.267
- To the master.
- 00:32:58.267 --> 00:33:00.202
- And so there is a way always. we find in scripture
- 00:33:00.202 --> 00:33:02.604
- Over and over and over again where the lord goes out
- 00:33:02.604 --> 00:33:06.775
- Of his way to go to samaria to find a woman
- 00:33:06.775 --> 00:33:09.545
- Who's going to be the first messenger about him
- 00:33:09.545 --> 00:33:12.347
- Being the messiah, right?
- 00:33:12.347 --> 00:33:13.649
- He goes out of his way to make space in culture for
- 00:33:13.649 --> 00:33:17.286
- The people who might be marginalized
- 00:33:17.286 --> 00:33:19.621
- At any given time.
- 00:33:19.621 --> 00:33:21.256
- And he says, i want you and the people around you
- 00:33:21.256 --> 00:33:24.560
- To know that i've made you in my image.
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- And that's what i would say to the women around
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- The world.
- 00:33:28.864 --> 00:33:30.099
- Look for the ways in which god has gotten
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- Creative and you step into that place boldly
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- And with confidence that he'll meet you there.
- 00:33:35.571 --> 00:33:39.208
- One of the great privileges of my life has
- 00:33:39.208 --> 00:33:42.144
- Been being able to travel so much.
- 00:33:42.144 --> 00:33:44.913
- I've been able to travel all across europe, across
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- Australia and new zealand, been to so many
- 00:33:48.317 --> 00:33:50.519
- Different countries in africa, spend a lot of
- 00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:53.655
- Time in south africa, and one thing that became
- 00:33:53.655 --> 00:33:56.325
- Clear is that there are many
- 00:33:56.325 --> 00:33:57.626
- Cultural differences.
- 00:33:57.626 --> 00:33:58.927
- I noticed that when i came from scotland where
- 00:33:58.927 --> 00:34:01.196
- I was born and then i was educated in england and
- 00:34:01.196 --> 00:34:03.832
- Then i came to america, cultures were
- 00:34:03.832 --> 00:34:06.101
- Very different.
- 00:34:06.101 --> 00:34:07.369
- I had to learn new ways of understanding, new
- 00:34:07.369 --> 00:34:10.172
- Ways of speaking, new ways of relating
- 00:34:10.172 --> 00:34:11.874
- To people.
- 00:34:11.874 --> 00:34:12.975
- And i think sometimes i think of women who are
- 00:34:12.975 --> 00:34:15.010
- Watching our show and maybe you are watching
- 00:34:15.010 --> 00:34:16.979
- From a place where you don't have a lot of
- 00:34:16.979 --> 00:34:19.081
- Freedom to speak.
- 00:34:19.081 --> 00:34:21.116
- Our prayer for you is that god by the holy
- 00:34:21.116 --> 00:34:23.752
- Spirit would give you wisdom.
- 00:34:23.752 --> 00:34:26.488
- The bible says if anyone lacks wisdom, ask the
- 00:34:26.488 --> 00:34:29.625
- Lord who will gladly give it.
- 00:34:29.625 --> 00:34:31.493
- Ask for wisdom to be able to know how to speak and
- 00:34:31.493 --> 00:34:34.830
- When words are not appropriate or when words
- 00:34:34.830 --> 00:34:37.833
- Are not permissible, let your light shine.
- 00:34:37.833 --> 00:34:41.403
- There's something so compulsive about someone
- 00:34:41.403 --> 00:34:43.472
- Who is in love and when you're in love with jesus
- 00:34:43.472 --> 00:34:46.041
- And that that's clear to those around you, your
- 00:34:46.041 --> 00:34:48.277
- Life speaks volumes.
- 00:34:48.277 --> 00:34:52.014
- I would say to the woman who's hesitant to use her
- 00:34:52.014 --> 00:34:54.616
- Voice, she feels like she has nothing valuable to
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- Share that that's most likely impossible, that
- 00:34:57.219 --> 00:35:01.423
- You don't have anything valuable to share.
- 00:35:01.423 --> 00:35:04.293
- I think being a human on this earth, you walk a
- 00:35:04.293 --> 00:35:07.462
- Day and you've learned something, right?
- 00:35:07.462 --> 00:35:10.732
- Babies learn how to get what they need.
- 00:35:10.732 --> 00:35:13.001
- Even newborns have experienced life enough
- 00:35:13.001 --> 00:35:15.871
- To change their behavior and figure out how they
- 00:35:15.871 --> 00:35:19.274
- Get what they need.
- 00:35:19.274 --> 00:35:20.876
- And so if you are walking this earth, if you are
- 00:35:20.876 --> 00:35:23.212
- Living on this earth and have lived some days, you
- 00:35:23.212 --> 00:35:25.948
- Have something to share.
- 00:35:25.948 --> 00:35:28.717
- And so that's not a function of gifts or
- 00:35:28.717 --> 00:35:32.020
- Talents, that's a function of humanity and
- 00:35:32.020 --> 00:35:35.557
- There's somebody who needs to hear from you.
- 00:35:35.557 --> 00:35:43.031
- When we read the scriptures, when we see
- 00:35:43.031 --> 00:35:45.200
- How jesus spoke to women and actually told them to
- 00:35:45.200 --> 00:35:49.238
- Go and speak to his disciples who happen to
- 00:35:49.238 --> 00:35:53.041
- Be men, when we see this reflected in the
- 00:35:53.041 --> 00:35:56.378
- Scripture, then we know that we are empowered to
- 00:35:56.378 --> 00:35:59.248
- Use our voice.
- 00:35:59.248 --> 00:36:01.383
- One of the things that was so impressed upon me
- 00:36:01.383 --> 00:36:03.652
- When i was reading through the book of acts
- 00:36:03.652 --> 00:36:05.821
- Was the realization that the pharisees had
- 00:36:05.821 --> 00:36:08.657
- Forbidden peter and john to preach or teach in the
- 00:36:08.657 --> 00:36:12.894
- Name of jesus.
- 00:36:12.894 --> 00:36:15.897
- And there came this moment where they had to
- 00:36:15.897 --> 00:36:18.267
- Make a decision.
- 00:36:18.267 --> 00:36:19.735
- They said, we forbid you to preach or teach in the
- 00:36:19.735 --> 00:36:22.104
- Name of jesus.
- 00:36:22.104 --> 00:36:23.605
- They called him back and said, come on.
- 00:36:23.605 --> 00:36:25.307
- No, you can't do that.
- 00:36:25.307 --> 00:36:26.808
- And peter says, whether we obey god or whether we
- 00:36:26.808 --> 00:36:30.512
- Obey you. you decide what is best.
- 00:36:30.512 --> 00:36:34.349
- But as far as we are concerned, we are going
- 00:36:34.349 --> 00:36:36.451
- To obey god.
- 00:36:36.451 --> 00:36:37.819
- And i believe an entire generation of god's
- 00:36:37.819 --> 00:36:40.022
- Daughters have been released to preach the
- 00:36:40.022 --> 00:36:43.058
- Gospel and the pharisitical religious
- 00:36:43.058 --> 00:36:46.161
- Spirit, the enemy of our souls is saying, come on
- 00:36:46.161 --> 00:36:48.764
- Back, come on back.
- 00:36:48.764 --> 00:36:49.698
- I forbid you to preach our teach in the
- 00:36:49.698 --> 00:36:51.733
- Name of jesus.
- 00:36:51.733 --> 00:36:53.201
- But the last days are not like the first days, and
- 00:36:53.201 --> 00:36:56.705
- God is pouring out his spirit on all flesh, and
- 00:36:56.705 --> 00:36:58.807
- He wants his sons and daughters to prophesy and
- 00:36:58.807 --> 00:37:02.177
- Preach his word.
- 00:37:02.177 --> 00:37:03.912
- So when you look at the scripture, you have to
- 00:37:03.912 --> 00:37:06.048
- Make a decision.
- 00:37:06.048 --> 00:37:07.115
- Are you going to live by the fear of man or are
- 00:37:07.115 --> 00:37:09.584
- You going to live in obedience to christ?
- 00:37:09.584 --> 00:37:13.488
- Join the conversation on our better together
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- Youtube channel. subscribe today and never
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- You think that god is limited by
- 00:37:24.834 --> 00:37:26.302
- Our limitations?
- 00:37:26.302 --> 00:37:27.236
- That's right.
- 00:37:27.236 --> 00:37:27.970
- And he is not.
- 00:37:27.970 --> 00:37:28.571
- He is not.
- 00:37:28.571 --> 00:37:29.639
- And you look throughout the scriptures, even
- 00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:31.941
- Romans chapter 16 where paul talked about the
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- Women that led with him in a culture where women
- 00:37:34.577 --> 00:37:36.846
- Had no voice.
- 00:37:36.846 --> 00:37:37.914
- That's right.
- 00:37:37.914 --> 00:37:38.715
- They had no value.
- 00:37:38.715 --> 00:37:40.016
- Their voice was never even, i mean, that was
- 00:37:40.016 --> 00:37:42.151
- The powerful thing about mary as well, is a
- 00:37:42.151 --> 00:37:43.619
- Woman's testimony wasn't allowed in a court of
- 00:37:43.619 --> 00:37:46.522
- Law, but paul partnered with these women.
- 00:37:46.522 --> 00:37:48.157
- Did they rebel against the system?
- 00:37:48.157 --> 00:37:50.860
- No, i think they served humanity.
- 00:37:50.860 --> 00:37:53.529
- And i think that's even as a female,
- 00:37:53.529 --> 00:37:55.631
- So being in leadership for 40 plus years, i was
- 00:37:55.631 --> 00:37:58.601
- Often the only female in the room.
- 00:37:58.601 --> 00:38:01.104
- I was often times not qualified because of
- 00:38:01.104 --> 00:38:04.307
- My gender.
- 00:38:04.307 --> 00:38:05.408
- I remember in the early days saying to dennis,
- 00:38:05.408 --> 00:38:07.377
- Well, here, i've got the whole strategy.
- 00:38:07.377 --> 00:38:08.911
- Why don't you speak it?
- 00:38:08.911 --> 00:38:10.079
- He's like, you speak it.
- 00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:11.114
- I was like, no, they won't hear me say it.
- 00:38:11.114 --> 00:38:12.782
- They're going to hear you say it because
- 00:38:12.782 --> 00:38:13.983
- You're a man.
- 00:38:13.983 --> 00:38:15.118
- But i had to learn in the process of how to speak
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- In a way that served the table in the best way
- 00:38:17.220 --> 00:38:19.889
- That i could.
- 00:38:19.889 --> 00:38:20.990
- So god is aware to the women around the world,
- 00:38:20.990 --> 00:38:24.060
- Our heart breaks for you and
- 00:38:24.060 --> 00:38:26.329
- Some of the limitations that you have to face.
- 00:38:26.329 --> 00:38:28.431
- That's right.
- 00:38:28.431 --> 00:38:29.966
- And we are so blessed in the world that we live in
- 00:38:29.966 --> 00:38:31.634
- Right now, and i pray for you daily that you're
- 00:38:31.634 --> 00:38:34.370
- Able to access fully what god has already entrusted
- 00:38:34.370 --> 00:38:37.407
- You with in this moment.
- 00:38:37.407 --> 00:38:40.376
- He sees where you are.
- 00:38:40.376 --> 00:38:42.412
- That's the main thing is that just like hagar
- 00:38:42.412 --> 00:38:45.081
- Said, he's the god who sees me and the thing
- 00:38:45.081 --> 00:38:47.250
- That i loved about hagar and the wilderness, how
- 00:38:47.250 --> 00:38:49.318
- Powerful is that moment where she's in the
- 00:38:49.318 --> 00:38:51.621
- Wilderness, not of her own doing.
- 00:38:51.621 --> 00:38:53.389
- She's limited by her circumstances, yet
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- There's a well that she did not see
- 00:38:55.591 --> 00:38:58.127
- Until she was in the wilderness.
- 00:38:58.127 --> 00:38:59.695
- Yeah.
- 00:38:59.695 --> 00:39:00.763
- Well, and what i love about that story is that
- 00:39:00.763 --> 00:39:02.532
- He told abraham, i'll make you a great nation.
- 00:39:02.532 --> 00:39:04.867
- Yes, that's right.
- 00:39:04.867 --> 00:39:07.804
- And so hagar has ishmael, i love this because she
- 00:39:07.804 --> 00:39:10.940
- Goes out and i can just cry about this because
- 00:39:10.940 --> 00:39:14.010
- Hagar takes her baby and goes out to the
- 00:39:14.010 --> 00:39:17.146
- Wilderness to die and puts him across over
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- There because i can't watch him die,
- 00:39:20.716 --> 00:39:22.752
- Watch him die.
- 00:39:22.752 --> 00:39:24.187
- And then she goes over here and she weeps before
- 00:39:24.187 --> 00:39:26.522
- The lord, and god hears the lad crying and says
- 00:39:26.522 --> 00:39:33.863
- To hagar, what ails you, hagar?
- 00:39:33.863 --> 00:39:36.732
- What's wrong?
- 00:39:36.732 --> 00:39:38.301
- And she says, i can't watch my baby die.
- 00:39:38.301 --> 00:39:40.670
- And he said, i told you i would make a
- 00:39:40.670 --> 00:39:43.673
- Great nation.
- 00:39:43.673 --> 00:39:44.807
- And what did he do for hagar?
- 00:39:44.807 --> 00:39:46.676
- Made a great nation.
- 00:39:46.676 --> 00:39:47.777
- He made a great nation out of her son.
- 00:39:47.777 --> 00:39:51.147
- So god keeps his promises.
- 00:39:51.147 --> 00:39:53.249
- He is a faithful god to every generation.
- 00:39:53.249 --> 00:39:55.751
- He sees you where you are, he knows your name.
- 00:39:55.751 --> 00:39:59.722
- And so there's hope on every level.
- 00:39:59.722 --> 00:40:03.993
- There's hope across the board.
- 00:40:03.993 --> 00:40:06.095
- There's hope all around, up and down.
- 00:40:06.095 --> 00:40:09.031
- Wherever you are, god sees and god knows and
- 00:40:09.031 --> 00:40:11.634
- There's hope.
- 00:40:11.634 --> 00:40:13.002
- That's right.
- 00:40:13.002 --> 00:40:14.036
- And your stake in the ground in this space may
- 00:40:14.036 --> 00:40:16.439
- Not be as far along as you want it to be, but
- 00:40:16.439 --> 00:40:18.908
- You're putting a stake in the ground for
- 00:40:18.908 --> 00:40:20.910
- Generations coming after you.
- 00:40:20.910 --> 00:40:22.211
- That is--
- 00:40:22.211 --> 00:40:23.145
- She had nothing.
- 00:40:23.145 --> 00:40:24.013
- Exactly.
- 00:40:24.013 --> 00:40:25.715
- She had nothing.
- 00:40:25.715 --> 00:40:26.782
- She had nowhere to go.
- 00:40:26.782 --> 00:40:28.150
- We're both going to die.
- 00:40:28.150 --> 00:40:29.552
- And i just can't take it to watch him die.
- 00:40:29.552 --> 00:40:31.654
- And there she was and god,
- 00:40:31.654 --> 00:40:35.191
- But there was a well
- 00:40:35.191 --> 00:40:36.592
- In the wilderness and then there's the well,
- 00:40:36.592 --> 00:40:38.928
- So i think for me, the deepest wells i've found
- 00:40:38.928 --> 00:40:40.663
- Have always been in the hardest wilderness,
- 00:40:40.663 --> 00:40:42.398
- Hardest seasons.
- 00:40:42.398 --> 00:40:43.366
- Well, and then she saw you wouldn't
- 00:40:43.366 --> 00:40:44.634
- See it otherwise.
- 00:40:44.634 --> 00:40:45.768
- Well, yeah, that's what i mean.
- 00:40:45.768 --> 00:40:46.802
- It was there the whole, it was always there.
- 00:40:46.802 --> 00:40:48.571
- It was there the whole time.
- 00:40:48.571 --> 00:40:49.405
- But you can't see it sometimes.
- 00:40:49.405 --> 00:40:50.439
- So to anybody who's facing that persecution,
- 00:40:50.439 --> 00:40:53.009
- There's a well where you are right now, jesus.
- 00:40:53.009 --> 00:40:55.978
- Because suffering can blind you to god's provision.
- 00:40:55.978 --> 00:40:57.580
- That's right.
- 00:40:57.580 --> 00:40:58.748
- And i think of the way that jesus himself is
- 00:40:58.748 --> 00:41:00.716
- Appearing to women in certain parts of the
- 00:41:00.716 --> 00:41:02.385
- World where there is no freedom, where there's no
- 00:41:02.385 --> 00:41:05.054
- Place they can go.
- 00:41:05.054 --> 00:41:06.522
- And christ himself shows up and shows himself and
- 00:41:06.522 --> 00:41:09.692
- Some of the powerful bible studies that are
- 00:41:09.692 --> 00:41:11.827
- Going on around the world with women that probably
- 00:41:11.827 --> 00:41:14.697
- Wouldn't be able to even watch this program, but
- 00:41:14.697 --> 00:41:17.400
- That christ is with them because they too are
- 00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:19.702
- Better together because jesus is with them.
- 00:41:19.702 --> 00:41:22.972
- As a woman, i have had quoted to me possibly
- 00:41:22.972 --> 00:41:26.842
- More than any other scripture in all of the
- 00:41:26.842 --> 00:41:28.711
- Bible, i suffer a woman not to preach or teach or
- 00:41:28.711 --> 00:41:32.114
- Have authority of a man, that paul commanded women
- 00:41:32.114 --> 00:41:34.517
- To be silent in the church.
- 00:41:34.517 --> 00:41:36.752
- So here's the thing, if we are truly going to
- 00:41:36.752 --> 00:41:41.390
- Have women be silent in the church, that means
- 00:41:41.390 --> 00:41:44.093
- From the moment they step in the building, there's
- 00:41:44.093 --> 00:41:46.629
- To be no talking.
- 00:41:46.629 --> 00:41:48.097
- We need to pass notes to turn in our kids.
- 00:41:48.097 --> 00:41:50.700
- We need to be able--
- 00:41:50.700 --> 00:41:51.801
- So we have to actually say, is that really the
- 00:41:51.801 --> 00:41:54.570
- Spirit of what paul was writing?
- 00:41:54.570 --> 00:41:58.374
- See, i believe that paul was saying for the women
- 00:41:58.374 --> 00:42:00.610
- To be quiet for a number of reasons, number one,
- 00:42:00.610 --> 00:42:03.212
- They were not educated.
- 00:42:03.212 --> 00:42:05.147
- These were greek and roman.
- 00:42:05.147 --> 00:42:07.116
- These were heathens had just now gotten saved.
- 00:42:07.116 --> 00:42:09.485
- They were not bible reading women.
- 00:42:09.485 --> 00:42:11.621
- They didn't even have a bible at the time.
- 00:42:11.621 --> 00:42:13.222
- They just had a few letters.
- 00:42:13.222 --> 00:42:14.657
- And this day is not their day.
- 00:42:14.657 --> 00:42:18.561
- And i think when we put the culture of their day
- 00:42:18.561 --> 00:42:21.731
- On top of the culture of our day, we're making
- 00:42:21.731 --> 00:42:24.667
- A mistake.
- 00:42:24.667 --> 00:42:26.268
- And sometimes even when i look where it says, when
- 00:42:26.268 --> 00:42:28.037
- He says, hey, women need to have their
- 00:42:28.037 --> 00:42:31.107
- Heads covered.
- 00:42:31.107 --> 00:42:32.208
- Is it not a shame for men to have long hair?
- 00:42:32.208 --> 00:42:33.743
- I have to think.
- 00:42:33.743 --> 00:42:35.144
- Wait a minute, samson had long hair.
- 00:42:35.144 --> 00:42:37.279
- Absalon had long hair.
- 00:42:37.279 --> 00:42:39.115
- What do you mean? john
- 00:42:39.115 --> 00:42:40.116
- The baptist had long hair.
- 00:42:40.116 --> 00:42:41.283
- What do you mean is a shame?
- 00:42:41.283 --> 00:42:42.685
- Well, it's not a shame for men to have long hair
- 00:42:42.685 --> 00:42:45.121
- In the jewish culture, but it was in the greek
- 00:42:45.121 --> 00:42:49.625
- Culture because for a man to have long hair was
- 00:42:49.625 --> 00:42:53.029
- Communicating a very different thing.
- 00:42:53.029 --> 00:42:55.264
- So we need to say, do all of these cultural
- 00:42:55.264 --> 00:42:58.334
- Restrictions apply to us today?
- 00:42:58.334 --> 00:43:01.837
- Or is god saying that the last days are not like
- 00:43:01.837 --> 00:43:05.107
- The first days?
- 00:43:05.107 --> 00:43:06.442
- And in these last days, i need both my sons and my
- 00:43:06.442 --> 00:43:08.544
- Daughters, the young and the old to speak my word
- 00:43:08.544 --> 00:43:12.481
- And make disciples.
- 00:43:12.481 --> 00:43:14.450
- And jesus loved women.
- 00:43:14.450 --> 00:43:16.152
- And at the end of the day, we, we talked about
- 00:43:16.152 --> 00:43:18.454
- Your son coming and saying, well, we're
- 00:43:18.454 --> 00:43:19.455
- Supposed to be the boss.
- 00:43:19.455 --> 00:43:20.356
- You're like, that wasn't the original.
- 00:43:20.356 --> 00:43:22.191
- And jesus always took it back.
- 00:43:22.191 --> 00:43:25.261
- We are so good about declaring that jesus came
- 00:43:25.261 --> 00:43:29.365
- To seek and save the lost, but he actually
- 00:43:29.365 --> 00:43:32.601
- Came to seek and save that which was lost.
- 00:43:32.601 --> 00:43:36.539
- And so everything that was lost in the fall.
- 00:43:36.539 --> 00:43:39.308
- That's right.
- 00:43:39.308 --> 00:43:40.276
- Yeah.
- 00:43:40.276 --> 00:43:41.277
- That's a good-- jesus wants to come back.
- 00:43:41.277 --> 00:43:42.645
- So he wants us because his hands and feet to
- 00:43:42.645 --> 00:43:45.047
- Preach redemption to male and female, that
- 00:43:45.047 --> 00:43:47.550
- Relationship that used to be one and multiplication
- 00:43:47.550 --> 00:43:52.254
- And has become division.
- 00:43:52.254 --> 00:43:54.090
- He was like, no, no, no.
- 00:43:54.090 --> 00:43:55.357
- I want you to preach to that to parents and
- 00:43:55.357 --> 00:43:57.326
- Children that suffered loss.
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- We see that with brother to brother.
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- You talk about racism, that's a loss.
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- That's a loss. huge.
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- We are not supposed to be like, well, you're over
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- There and we're over here.
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- We're supposed to be together.
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- And we celebrate one another's differences.
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- Just like a man and a woman,
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- We are one, but we're not same.
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- Exactly.
- 00:44:15.111 --> 00:44:16.545
- And the differences is what makes us one.
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- And so we're supposed to preach the gospel so that
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- This world flourishes because jesus paid the
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- Price for everything.
- 00:44:23.319 --> 00:44:24.420
- I remember this powerful woman, and you would've
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- Thought like what you talk about finding a well
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- At the worst point in your life, this woman has
- 00:44:29.658 --> 00:44:32.027
- Been a banner for my life.
- 00:44:32.027 --> 00:44:33.963
- She was a youth pastor's wife, and her husband was
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- Arrested for soliciting male prostitutes.
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- And the police came to the door, told her
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- 16-year-old son. devastation.
- 00:44:41.604 --> 00:44:44.206
- And the church said, if you stay with your
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- Husband, we will cast you out of our church.
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- If you divorce him, then we'll keep you
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- In the church.
- 00:44:51.347 --> 00:44:52.948
- And she said, she went before god and said, i
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- Don't know what to do.
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- I'm so wounded right now.
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- I'm so betrayed by my husband, but i also feel
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- Abandoned by the church.
- 00:45:00.055 --> 00:45:01.657
- And god said, if you stay with him, i will doubly
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- Bless you, and if you leave, i will bless you.
- 00:45:05.060 --> 00:45:07.797
- He said, there's a blessing either way.
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- He said, if you stay with him, it will be harder,
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- But if you go, it'll be easier at first.
- 00:45:12.434 --> 00:45:15.104
- And i met her when she was in her late sixties
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- And the blessing of the lord on their life.
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- And then they pastored a church and she was
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- Helping somebody.
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- She stayed with him.
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- And she said, though, in that moment, she said she
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- Saw a banquet table.
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- And she said, the lord said, my death provided
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- All of this for my sons and daughters, but you
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- Pick and choose.
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- Wow.
- 00:45:40.229 --> 00:45:41.096
- And he said, take it all.
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- Wow.
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- Take it all.
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- And his daughters, i mean, we're god's
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- Daughters and you're listening to us.
- 00:45:46.502 --> 00:45:48.204
- You're god's daughters, first and foremost,
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- Not minister.
- 00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:51.874
- Our identity is daughter of the most high god. that
- 00:45:51.874 --> 00:45:54.777
- Has nothing to do with our, that has nothing to
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- Do with our race, that has nothing to do with
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- Our economic position.
- 00:45:59.448 --> 00:46:00.916
- We are welcomed in the courts of a king.
- 00:46:00.916 --> 00:46:05.154
- And you have every right as the daughter of the
- 00:46:05.154 --> 00:46:08.057
- Most high to go to your father.
- 00:46:08.057 --> 00:46:10.259
- I believe that we have not only the ability, but
- 00:46:10.259 --> 00:46:14.263
- I think we have the responsibility to speak
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- Truth and life into every situation.
- 00:46:17.233 --> 00:46:22.004
- I know that every situation doesn't go
- 00:46:22.004 --> 00:46:24.073
- Exactly the way we want it to go, but i think i
- 00:46:24.073 --> 00:46:29.278
- Am required as a child of god to still believe, to
- 00:46:29.278 --> 00:46:33.115
- Still act on faith, to still believe that
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- Whether i die, jesus is still the healer.
- 00:46:37.286 --> 00:46:40.556
- Jesus is who he said he was no matter what i see.
- 00:46:40.556 --> 00:46:44.827
- And so my responsibility, i believe as a child of
- 00:46:44.827 --> 00:46:49.198
- God is to speak truth in life into every situation
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- And just see what god does, what he chooses thy
- 00:46:52.334 --> 00:46:54.904
- Will be done.
- 00:46:54.904 --> 00:46:56.839
- And so we just want
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- To pray for you.
- 00:46:58.674 --> 00:46:59.742
- You're out there and you say you don't understand
- 00:46:59.742 --> 00:47:01.543
- The challenges.
- 00:47:01.543 --> 00:47:02.978
- No, i don't.
- 00:47:02.978 --> 00:47:04.747
- But i do understand the one who will meet you in
- 00:47:04.747 --> 00:47:06.949
- Those challenges.
- 00:47:06.949 --> 00:47:08.317
- And i do know that he has given you the power and
- 00:47:08.317 --> 00:47:10.819
- The authority to pray prayers that will begin
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- To shift things in your life.
- 00:47:13.856 --> 00:47:15.958
- So father, we just thank you for the women.
- 00:47:15.958 --> 00:47:18.027
- We thank you for the women that are near.
- 00:47:18.027 --> 00:47:19.895
- We thank you for the women that are far.
- 00:47:19.895 --> 00:47:21.630
- We thank you for the women that are
- 00:47:21.630 --> 00:47:23.432
- Frightened, and we thank you for the women that
- 00:47:23.432 --> 00:47:24.833
- Are courageous.
- 00:47:24.833 --> 00:47:26.035
- Father, we thank you that we live in a day and a
- 00:47:26.035 --> 00:47:27.870
- Time where the very idea, very concept of womanhood
- 00:47:27.870 --> 00:47:32.374
- Is being assailed by the enemy.
- 00:47:32.374 --> 00:47:34.076
- And so father, we take back our place in the
- 00:47:34.076 --> 00:47:37.012
- Spirit as daughters of the most high god.
- 00:47:37.012 --> 00:47:39.648
- That is not an afterthought.
- 00:47:39.648 --> 00:47:41.650
- That is a divine assignment.
- 00:47:41.650 --> 00:47:44.053
- Father, you said it's not good for man to be alone.
- 00:47:44.053 --> 00:47:47.523
- You created woman as the answer to the very
- 00:47:47.523 --> 00:47:50.292
- First problem.
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- So father, we ask that you would just anoint us
- 00:47:52.194 --> 00:47:55.064
- Afresh so we can see the answer on the other side
- 00:47:55.064 --> 00:47:58.334
- Of these problems that we see in our world
- 00:47:58.334 --> 00:48:00.536
- Right now.
- 00:48:00.536 --> 00:48:01.937
- We know that god, you have your hand on your
- 00:48:01.937 --> 00:48:04.940
- Daughters right now, and father, we thank you for
- 00:48:04.940 --> 00:48:07.309
- Freedom to preach.
- 00:48:07.309 --> 00:48:09.611
- We thank you for freedom, to put exclamation marks
- 00:48:09.611 --> 00:48:12.448
- Where you want to put exclamation marks in our
- 00:48:12.448 --> 00:48:15.851
- Life, that we would not speak with hesitancy, but
- 00:48:15.851 --> 00:48:18.921
- We would speak with divine authority.
- 00:48:18.921 --> 00:48:21.490
- And god anoint us to help other women find out who
- 00:48:21.490 --> 00:48:25.194
- They are in jesus christ.
- 00:48:25.194 --> 00:48:28.130
- Father, we just thank you that you are breaking
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- Down the barriers that you are pouring out your
- 00:48:30.866 --> 00:48:32.668
- Spirit on all flesh, on sons and daughters, old
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- And young, and that you are the one that is going
- 00:48:37.172 --> 00:48:39.508
- To show yourself great in these last days.
- 00:48:39.508 --> 00:48:41.810
- In jesus' name, amen.
- 00:48:41.810 --> 00:48:44.079
- Amen.
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- Connect with us on social media and let us know how
- 00:48:46.015 --> 00:48:47.816
- Our team can pray for you.
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- Hi everybody.
- 00:48:51.854 --> 00:48:52.955
- I'm sheila here with lisa, and we're behind
- 00:48:52.955 --> 00:48:54.656
- Scenes at better together answering some of
- 00:48:54.656 --> 00:48:56.558
- Your questions.
- 00:48:56.558 --> 00:48:57.659
- So here's the first question for you, and
- 00:48:57.659 --> 00:48:59.695
- This is from laura.
- 00:48:59.695 --> 00:49:00.863
- She emailed us asking us, what is the woman's role
- 00:49:00.863 --> 00:49:04.133
- In the modern church and family?
- 00:49:04.133 --> 00:49:06.735
- What does it look like to live a godly life in
- 00:49:06.735 --> 00:49:08.904
- Today's world?
- 00:49:08.904 --> 00:49:10.139
- Your perfect person to answer that with four
- 00:49:10.139 --> 00:49:11.740
- Sons, daughters-in-law and grandkids.
- 00:49:11.740 --> 00:49:14.243
- Oh, wow.
- 00:49:14.243 --> 00:49:15.344
- Well, first of all, thank you for your question.
- 00:49:15.344 --> 00:49:17.980
- One of the things i'm just going to say how
- 00:49:17.980 --> 00:49:19.948
- John and i look at it is really that is the
- 00:49:19.948 --> 00:49:22.284
- Decision as far as what it looks like in your
- 00:49:22.284 --> 00:49:24.319
- Family between you and your husband.
- 00:49:24.319 --> 00:49:25.821
- So there's couples that it looks very different
- 00:49:25.821 --> 00:49:29.091
- For them than it looks for us, but i don't see
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- The roles of being a mother and being a
- 00:49:32.327 --> 00:49:34.863
- Wife changing.
- 00:49:34.863 --> 00:49:36.365
- Sometimes it just looks different, but i don't
- 00:49:36.365 --> 00:49:38.767
- See the role changing. where it's needing to
- 00:49:38.767 --> 00:49:42.371
- Have some addressing is the modern church.
- 00:49:42.371 --> 00:49:45.641
- In the past, we've heard a lot about
- 00:49:45.641 --> 00:49:48.811
- Women to be silent.
- 00:49:48.811 --> 00:49:50.712
- Women are not to teach or not to have authority.
- 00:49:50.712 --> 00:49:53.082
- And in the early church, and we've talked about
- 00:49:53.082 --> 00:49:55.217
- This a lot as well, there was reasons for paul to
- 00:49:55.217 --> 00:49:57.853
- Say that, and yet there were cultural things
- 00:49:57.853 --> 00:49:59.822
- Going on that are not going on nowadays.
- 00:49:59.822 --> 00:50:02.991
- Women weren't educated.
- 00:50:02.991 --> 00:50:04.560
- They were brand new.
- 00:50:04.560 --> 00:50:06.228
- There was no bibles, there was no seminaries
- 00:50:06.228 --> 00:50:08.230
- For women.
- 00:50:08.230 --> 00:50:09.231
- There was nothing for them to be able to
- 00:50:09.231 --> 00:50:11.166
- Go and learn.
- 00:50:11.166 --> 00:50:12.601
- And so paul was like, be quiet in the church.
- 00:50:12.601 --> 00:50:15.404
- Do not have authority of our men.
- 00:50:15.404 --> 00:50:17.439
- You don't even know what you're talking about.
- 00:50:17.439 --> 00:50:18.740
- But we are not in first days anymore.
- 00:50:18.740 --> 00:50:21.243
- No, they weren't even allowed to study the
- 00:50:21.243 --> 00:50:22.644
- Talmud at that time.
- 00:50:22.644 --> 00:50:24.113
- No, that was something that was preserved
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- For a man.
- 00:50:25.681 --> 00:50:26.782
- In fact, any jewish man, one of their prayers was,
- 00:50:26.782 --> 00:50:27.950
- Thank god that i was not born a woman.
- 00:50:27.950 --> 00:50:29.485
- But days are changed.
- 00:50:29.485 --> 00:50:30.686
- And so i agree with you.
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- I think that god has given us both the
- 00:50:32.087 --> 00:50:33.255
- Privilege and the responsibility of
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- Living our lives well.
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