Why Does God Allow Suffering? | Better Together Episode 1147

March 3, 2026 | S8 E1147 | 51:1

Why do bad things happen to good people? Suffering raises hard questions about God and our faith. Discover what can happen when a good God meets the world's suffering and how He turns around even the deepest pain for our good. | TBN Prayer Line: 714-731-1000

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Better Together | Why Does God Allow Suffering? | Better Together Episode 1147 | March 3, 2026
  • The most frequently asked question we receive is why do
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  • Bad things happen to good people?
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  • Today, we're talking about how to walk through life's darkest
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  • Valleys and rest in the arms of god and his grace.
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  • Come on, join us.
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  • ♪♪
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  • We're talking about some of the questions that are coming in.
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  • And one of them, uh, this is a big one.
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  • A lot of people ask it. i think we all ask it.
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  • But why does god allow suffering?
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  • Um, i think i've had more suffering than than not.
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  • Um, and i've had a lot of therapy to work through a lot
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  • Of those things.
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  • I just remember when-- my kids are 20 and 17 now, but my
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  • Youngest, when he was born, he came out perfect.
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  • He was beautiful.
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  • And my oldest chance was an emergency c-section,
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  • Um, after, you know, 40, 40 hours of labor.
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  • That's crazy.
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  • Crazy. and i had to, like, prove something to you, right?
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  • I wanted to be like, let's go as natural as possible.
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  • Um, that wasn't a good idea. sure.
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  • I know. i'm like 5'1.
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  • And, um, this baby was giant.
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  • And so, uh, when paxton, my younger, came along, they were
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  • Monitoring and they just said, hey, he's actually, you know,
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  • Measuring to be bigger.
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  • And i was like, man, just open that zipper.
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  • Let's go.
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  • And so he was born and he had all ten fingers.
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  • All ten toes. just so sweet.
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  • I've been a mom already for three years at this point, and
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  • He's beautiful.
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  • We take him home, and within a month, it wasn't colic.
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  • It was this cry from a baby every time,
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  • Like after he ate, between eating and between, like, you
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  • Know, getting rid of it in his diaper, he would cry this
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  • Blood curdling scream.
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  • And as a mama, you're just thinking he can't tell me
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  • What's wrong.
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  • And he is hurting.
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  • And some of my backstory is also, i was told i was
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  • Infertile, which is a nasty word.
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  • And so these babies that i had were just so precious.
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  • Like, i, i would have done anything for them.
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  • And he would scream and scream.
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  • And this went on for months.
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  • And we went to the doctor.
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  • And the doctor tested in every way possible.
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  • Couldn't find anything.
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  • And when the doctor can't-- many doctors can't find out why,
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  • What's wrong with your child,
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  • You start to lose hope.
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  • And there's one thing for you to suffer and go, okay, i
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  • Myself can handle some things, but to see someone you love so
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  • Much that you would give the world to suffering
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  • And not having language-- the worst.
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  • Right. -- to explain it.
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  • And i remember asking this question like, god, why are you
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  • Letting this happen?
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  • This baby has done nothing.
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  • Why are you letting paxton suffer?
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  • Can you please just tell me what's going on?
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  • Yeah. um, and there was a lot of things going on in his
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  • Little system, you know. for me too,
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  • I thought, what did i do wrong?
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  • What did i mess up during pregnancy?
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  • The sense of shame and guilt and trying to make
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  • Everything right, you know.
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  • And we found out he was
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  • Basically allergic to everything.
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  • Oh, wow.
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  • So everything coming through breast milk, even even formula.
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  • He's allergic to everything out there.
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  • All the way to, like, iron.
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  • You know, things that you need in your body.
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  • So we had to address those things.
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  • We had to find ways to heal different parts of his body.
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  • Fortunately, babies, toddlers,
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  • They heal much faster than adults.
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  • So we we got there.
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  • But, you know, asking that question of why do bad things
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  • Happen to good people?
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  • Your story tells that as well,
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  • Brittany, of-- you know, and the truth of that is, i think
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  • This is a fair question.
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  • This is-- there's no shame.
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  • If you wrote this question in and you asked about it, like,
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  • This is a fair, fair question.
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  • I think if you feel desperate today, you might feel like
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  • Hope will never come.
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  • Like i'm at the end of my rope.
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  • I don't see any way out.
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  • I'm suffering, i'm struggling,
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  • I want to tell you about jesus.
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  • Jesus is here for you.
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  • God is for you.
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  • God is with you.
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  • He'll never leave you.
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  • He'll never forsake you.
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  • So in your suffering, that is when we find the most
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  • Treasured gifts from god.
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  • We find that he does comfort us, that he is a mender of the
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  • Brokenhearted, that he has every provision there for us,
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  • That he is the provider of our satisfaction of our life.
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  • He's the joy that strengthens us.
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  • He's the peace that passes all understanding.
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  • He's everything. everything that we need, we find in god.
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  • So if you're struggling today, if you're suffering today, lean
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  • Into god and say, god, i am not leaving this place until i get
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  • Everything from you that i'm here for.
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  • So my question to all of you is, you know, you've all, i
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  • Know your stories.
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  • We've all had some pain and suffering in our lives.
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  • And what is it that you would say, or how would you address
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  • It in your own life
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  • Of how, how, one, does god allow suffering
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  • Is your answer to that?
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  • And then two, what do you do with that answer?
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  • Yeah, i think it's one of the most, from the very beginning,
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  • The question has been, lord, why?
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  • Yeah, because we struggle with two things that are
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  • True at the same time.
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  • God is all powerful, which means he could do anything, and
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  • God is love, which would mean he would want to.
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  • And i remember having a one of the most honest conversations
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  • I've ever had with a woman. she had stayed behind.
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  • I had been speaking at a conference, and she had waited
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  • Kind of in the back row until everyone had gone.
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  • So i said to her, hey, do you want to chat?
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  • And she said, yeah, i would like to.
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  • And i sat down and she said, i liked what you said on
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  • The platform, but it can't all be true.
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  • And i was like, okay, then talk to me about it.
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  • What do you mean?
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  • And she said, well, you talked about how magnificent and
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  • Mighty god is, that he speaks a word and it happens.
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  • And then you also talked about the fact that he is love, not
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  • That he just can be loving, but he is the very essence of love.
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  • So why have i buried two children?
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  • And when somebody sits with that in that kind of level of
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  • Pain, there's i mean, you don't pull a scripture out and try
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  • And paste it to their wound.
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  • It's like you sit with them in that, you know, and we both sat
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  • And wept for a while because honestly, i didn't have a lot
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  • To say other than, um, praying for her that she would be able
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  • To bring all of that to god.
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  • All of those questions, all of that pain, all of that anger,
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  • And knowing that further down the line that she'd see
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  • The goodness of god.
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  • But when you're in it at that moment-- you know, i think
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  • People think because romans 8:28 says, and we know that all
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  • Things work together for good to those who love the lord and
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  • Are called according to his purpose,
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  • That it should feel good, and it doesn't a lot of the time.
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  • And god doesn't say it is good.
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  • All he's promised is he will bring good from that.
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  • But i think to give people permission to sit in what makes
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  • No sense and to hold those
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  • Questions. um, at the end of it,
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  • I mean, we actually ended up leaving and going to a coffee
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  • Shop and sit and talk for a while and, and ended up praying
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  • For one another.
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  • But i think sometimes just giving people permission to say
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  • This doesn't make sense to me.
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  • You know, don't give me some bumper sticker faith, you know,
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  • Tell me this is what i'm experiencing right now, and
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  • This is what you said is true.
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  • And you believe this word.
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  • I believe this word as deep as the marrow in my in my bones,
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  • But it doesn't mean that life is easy to understand
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  • Because it's just not. yeah.
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  • I think it's easy for us in challenging seasons to think
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  • That god has abandoned us.
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  • But in challenging seasons, god is consistently good, and he's
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  • With us because he's not changing.
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  • He's an everlasting god.
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  • Just again, if we don't feel
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  • It, doesn't mean he's not there.
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  • Just because we don't see it in our time doesn't mean we
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  • Understand god's timeline.
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  • And so we have to actually step outside of ourselves and
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  • Remember that the world and this timeline and eternity is
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  • Much bigger than us, and we wouldn't exist if god didn't
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  • Have a purpose for us in this season, in this time,
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  • Just as we are.
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  • And i think that mystery of, why?
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  • I mean, we could, uh, run circles trying to navigate
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  • The theology of it. all right.
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  • How we live in a broken world and so on and so forth.
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  • But at the end of the day, it's it's mystery that we are
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  • Trying to navigate.
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  • Um, where are you in the midst of this pain?
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  • Why did you say yes to this when you could have blocked it?
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  • And you know, and i know it's easy for us to kind of talk
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  • About this in a very sweet
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  • Manner because, i mean, look at us.
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  • We're comfortable.
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  • We're, you know, we're friends.
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  • We, you know, we're in this lovely little corner, uh,
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  • Talking about this topic, but i am sure anyone that's listening
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  • In that's actually going through it right now are
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  • Thinking, it does not look that pretty.
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  • Yeah. and, um, i don't want a formula like.
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  • And i think that's the the strange gift of pain.
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  • The strange gift of pain,
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  • Even though it's so mysterious, even though it feels like god
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  • Is hiding, is that it makes you not willing to settle for
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  • Anything less than the presence of god.
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  • Yeah. like when you are in
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  • Pain, religion just is not enough.
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  • Someone, somebody else's
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  • Testimony is just not enough.
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  • Right. like, no one else will do.
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  • Nothing else will make it all right.
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  • You need god, right?
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  • So in that, when you're going through things that you do not
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  • Understand, it really reveals what you're living for
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  • Because if you're living for success and you're suffering
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  • Because you're not being successful, that shows, right?
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  • And but if you're living for the presence of god, then you
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  • Could still win in the midst of suffering.
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  • Yeah. because you will know him in a way that you can never
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  • Really know him in the mountaintops.
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  • And although the presence of god will always be at least a
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  • Bit mysterious to us because he's so big and so grand, but
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  • There are revelations of his presence that could only really
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  • Be found in the valleys.
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  • It's hard to view pain as a gift.
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  • Pain seems like something we would want to avoid at all
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  • Costs, and it's not something we sign up for and say, yeah,
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  • Boy, i would just love to suffer.
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  • But what i've discovered in my own life is that pain can be
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  • Such a door thrown open to understand more of the goodness
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  • And the grace and the mercy of god.
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  • I can think of so many times in my life.
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  • I remember recently when i thought i'd broken my neck, and
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  • I'm in a big machine, and they're all going through all
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  • These different tests, and there was something.
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  • There's something about the
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  • Nearness of god when you were struggling.
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  • Perhaps it's because we realize
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  • Again how dependent we are on him.
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  • But if you find yourself in a place right now where you are
  • 00:11:32.781 --> 00:11:35.383
  • In pain, ask the lord to show you how much he loves you
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  • In the midst of it,
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  • And i believe you'll come out differently.
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  • You know, it's interesting because i had heard about god
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  • Being comforter, but really, unless you have pain, you don't
  • 00:11:46.427 --> 00:11:49.330
  • Need a comforter. that's right.
  • 00:11:49.330 --> 00:11:50.632
  • Unless you need something, you don't feel the provision of go.
  • 00:11:50.632 --> 00:11:55.470
  • Unless you're sick,
  • 00:11:55.470 --> 00:11:56.604
  • You don't experience the healing of god.
  • 00:11:56.604 --> 00:11:58.573
  • Yeah. and so, so many times we're like, god, we want
  • 00:11:58.573 --> 00:12:00.909
  • More of you.
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  • God, we want to experience all this from you.
  • 00:12:01.943 --> 00:12:04.979
  • And yet the pain is what--
  • 00:12:04.979 --> 00:12:06.815
  • Honestly, that's why i've experienced all of
  • 00:12:06.815 --> 00:12:09.184
  • Those things from god.
  • 00:12:09.184 --> 00:12:10.919
  • Like, i never knew god was as good--
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  • Yeah, yeah, yeah.
  • 00:12:15.023 --> 00:12:19.294
  • --until i walked through the valley,
  • 00:12:19.294 --> 00:12:21.095
  • Until everything was stripped away from me.
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  • And then at the rock bottom,
  • 00:12:23.398 --> 00:12:25.934
  • When everything about my life changed, i met the comforter
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  • In a deep way.
  • 00:12:29.671 --> 00:12:30.905
  • And we don't ever find that comforter without the pain.
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  • And i would never pick the pain,
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  • But i would pick the comforter every day.
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  • Yeah. every day.
  • 00:12:37.579 --> 00:12:38.580
  • The experience, his nearness, his presence.
  • 00:12:38.580 --> 00:12:41.950
  • Who he is in the valley of the shadow of death so that we
  • 00:12:41.950 --> 00:12:44.552
  • Don't have to have any fear because he is with us in it
  • 00:12:44.552 --> 00:12:48.489
  • And what he does in it.
  • 00:12:48.489 --> 00:12:49.757
  • And so often in those moments of our lives where it feels
  • 00:12:49.757 --> 00:12:53.061
  • Like you are drowning in pain, like god, i don't even know how
  • 00:12:53.061 --> 00:12:56.397
  • To describe how much i hurt.
  • 00:12:56.397 --> 00:12:58.700
  • There are moments where i literally thought, i don't know
  • 00:12:58.700 --> 00:13:00.902
  • How i'm not dying right now because i looked normal on the
  • 00:13:00.902 --> 00:13:03.538
  • Outside and on the inside,
  • 00:13:03.538 --> 00:13:05.340
  • I just felt like i was crumbling.
  • 00:13:05.340 --> 00:13:07.408
  • But, you know, you go to the word of god and you see what he
  • 00:13:07.408 --> 00:13:10.111
  • Does in the midst of those moments.
  • 00:13:10.111 --> 00:13:12.647
  • And it takes those moments.
  • 00:13:12.647 --> 00:13:14.015
  • And it's hard because none of us would ever pick it.
  • 00:13:14.015 --> 00:13:16.517
  • We would never pick the pain, ever.
  • 00:13:16.517 --> 00:13:18.286
  • But what god does in it-- and i remember reading romans five,
  • 00:13:18.286 --> 00:13:21.289
  • Where it talks about how we rejoice in our suffering.
  • 00:13:21.289 --> 00:13:25.193
  • Like, how do you rejoice in our suffering?
  • 00:13:25.193 --> 00:13:27.729
  • But the word there, it says knowing. that knowing part,
  • 00:13:27.729 --> 00:13:30.531
  • That's the hope, the knowing that god is going to do
  • 00:13:30.531 --> 00:13:33.534
  • Something even when we don't feel it, even when
  • 00:13:33.534 --> 00:13:35.403
  • We didn't see it.
  • 00:13:35.403 --> 00:13:36.671
  • In the moment when i buried my husband and i was raising my
  • 00:13:36.671 --> 00:13:38.940
  • Babies by myself, i had no idea how god could use it.
  • 00:13:38.940 --> 00:13:42.143
  • But i remember reading the word saying, god,
  • 00:13:42.143 --> 00:13:43.945
  • I am trusting that this pain is too painful to be wasted.
  • 00:13:43.945 --> 00:13:47.582
  • And you promise that all things work together for good.
  • 00:13:47.582 --> 00:13:50.952
  • So there's something that you can do in the midst of this,
  • 00:13:50.952 --> 00:13:53.922
  • And i'm holding you to that promise.
  • 00:13:53.922 --> 00:13:55.556
  • But it says it's knowing that knowing that suffering produces
  • 00:13:55.556 --> 00:13:59.160
  • And it says endurance,
  • 00:13:59.160 --> 00:14:00.395
  • That is the last thing you feel in suffering is endurance.
  • 00:14:00.395 --> 00:14:03.631
  • I mean, the last thing i felt
  • 00:14:03.631 --> 00:14:05.066
  • Was, oh, i have got all the strength.
  • 00:14:05.066 --> 00:14:06.968
  • I'm going to enjoy this.
  • 00:14:06.968 --> 00:14:08.269
  • I mean, i felt the weakest of weak, but in that is what god
  • 00:14:08.269 --> 00:14:11.539
  • Produced in us is that endurance.
  • 00:14:11.539 --> 00:14:13.641
  • And it says suffering produces endurance, and endurance
  • 00:14:13.641 --> 00:14:16.911
  • Produces character, that proven character, the character that
  • 00:14:16.911 --> 00:14:20.648
  • Says, because laurie has walked through something hard and she
  • 00:14:20.648 --> 00:14:23.518
  • Gave me a word of encouragement, i took it
  • 00:14:23.518 --> 00:14:25.186
  • From her because i know that she went through the fire and
  • 00:14:25.186 --> 00:14:28.289
  • Didn't come out smelling like smoke.
  • 00:14:28.289 --> 00:14:30.391
  • Her word means something because she had walked through
  • 00:14:30.391 --> 00:14:33.294
  • It and she had endurance.
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  • You have proven character.
  • 00:14:34.362 --> 00:14:35.663
  • And then it says hope, a hope that does not put us to shame.
  • 00:14:35.663 --> 00:14:39.667
  • That is the hope of jesus.
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  • It is the one that doesn't put us to shame when all else is.
  • 00:14:41.302 --> 00:14:44.305
  • And i mean, we had i think i'm the most blessed widow
  • 00:14:44.305 --> 00:14:46.741
  • In the entire world.
  • 00:14:46.741 --> 00:14:48.009
  • I'm telling you, we had the most incredible people showing
  • 00:14:48.009 --> 00:14:50.745
  • Up for us, but nobody could offer the living hope
  • 00:14:50.745 --> 00:14:53.848
  • Like jesus could.
  • 00:14:53.848 --> 00:14:55.316
  • Nobody could offer me the comfort that god could
  • 00:14:55.316 --> 00:14:57.852
  • And that his word did.
  • 00:14:57.852 --> 00:14:59.320
  • But that's what you cling on to in those moments when you don't
  • 00:14:59.320 --> 00:15:02.523
  • Understand why bad things happen to good people, when you
  • 00:15:02.523 --> 00:15:05.360
  • Don't understand why this is the road.
  • 00:15:05.360 --> 00:15:07.729
  • This is the bed i woke up in today.
  • 00:15:07.729 --> 00:15:09.731
  • God, i can't believe this is the life that i woke up to.
  • 00:15:09.731 --> 00:15:13.101
  • And you have those moments.
  • 00:15:13.101 --> 00:15:14.469
  • But in those moments, you go, god, i have to trust that
  • 00:15:14.469 --> 00:15:17.538
  • You will do something,
  • 00:15:17.538 --> 00:15:18.740
  • That one day i'm going to look back and say that this
  • 00:15:18.740 --> 00:15:21.376
  • Suffering did produce something in me, even when you don't
  • 00:15:21.376 --> 00:15:23.978
  • Feel it in the moment.
  • 00:15:23.978 --> 00:15:26.381
  • There were so many days in my life that i felt like the pain
  • 00:15:26.381 --> 00:15:29.283
  • Was unbearable, and it was hard to take the next step,
  • 00:15:29.283 --> 00:15:32.820
  • But do the next right thing.
  • 00:15:32.820 --> 00:15:35.656
  • I remember a mentor telling me, don't think about the whole
  • 00:15:35.656 --> 00:15:38.893
  • Week, the whole month of suffering.
  • 00:15:38.893 --> 00:15:40.928
  • Just think about the moment.
  • 00:15:40.928 --> 00:15:42.030
  • God, i can get out of bed right now.
  • 00:15:42.030 --> 00:15:44.098
  • God, i can get dressed right now.
  • 00:15:44.098 --> 00:15:45.833
  • God, i can open up your word right now.
  • 00:15:45.833 --> 00:15:47.635
  • God, i may not be able to speak truth over my life,
  • 00:15:47.635 --> 00:15:50.571
  • But your word does.
  • 00:15:50.571 --> 00:15:51.939
  • I may not be able to sing hope,
  • 00:15:51.939 --> 00:15:53.674
  • But i can play this worship song.
  • 00:15:53.674 --> 00:15:55.209
  • So i want to encourage you.
  • 00:15:55.209 --> 00:15:56.511
  • If you feel like you can't take the next step, that you would
  • 00:15:56.511 --> 00:15:59.414
  • Just walk in obedience and that you would that you would on
  • 00:15:59.414 --> 00:16:03.217
  • Faith say, jesus, i need you,
  • 00:16:03.217 --> 00:16:05.153
  • Give me the strength to make it through today,
  • 00:16:05.153 --> 00:16:07.622
  • And he will be faithful.
  • 00:16:07.622 --> 00:16:08.890
  • And if he can do it for me, he can do it for you, too.
  • 00:16:08.890 --> 00:16:15.063
  • I think one of the greatest questions that will never be
  • 00:16:18.633 --> 00:16:21.002
  • Answered on this earth is, why
  • 00:16:21.002 --> 00:16:23.471
  • Does god allow bad things to happen?
  • 00:16:23.471 --> 00:16:25.807
  • Now, first of all, you might
  • 00:16:25.807 --> 00:16:26.774
  • Think, well, does god cause bad things?
  • 00:16:26.774 --> 00:16:29.410
  • Absolutely not.
  • 00:16:29.410 --> 00:16:30.445
  • God is perfect. god is love.
  • 00:16:30.445 --> 00:16:31.913
  • God does not cause bad things to happen, but he does
  • 00:16:31.913 --> 00:16:36.384
  • Allow bad things to happen on this planet.
  • 00:16:36.384 --> 00:16:38.119
  • We're living on a fallen earth.
  • 00:16:38.119 --> 00:16:39.754
  • But that's why jesus came.
  • 00:16:39.754 --> 00:16:41.756
  • Jesus came because we decided we could do life on our own,
  • 00:16:41.756 --> 00:16:44.926
  • And we didn't need god.
  • 00:16:44.926 --> 00:16:46.360
  • And we left this big gap between us and god.
  • 00:16:46.360 --> 00:16:49.130
  • So jesus came.
  • 00:16:49.130 --> 00:16:50.465
  • So yeah, it's okay to ask questions.
  • 00:16:50.465 --> 00:16:52.767
  • It's okay to wonder why, but just know that no matter what
  • 00:16:52.767 --> 00:16:57.205
  • You might be dealing with right now, god loves you.
  • 00:16:57.205 --> 00:17:01.776
  • We are better together because of you.
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  • When you have kids, all sorts of paranoia just arise because
  • 00:17:24.500 --> 00:17:29.071
  • You just think, oh my goodness, anything could happen to them.
  • 00:17:29.071 --> 00:17:32.007
  • So i used to pray for everything.
  • 00:17:32.007 --> 00:17:34.610
  • Lord, may they not hit their head on the wall.
  • 00:17:34.610 --> 00:17:37.012
  • Lord, may they not lose their this.
  • 00:17:37.012 --> 00:17:39.481
  • And may they--
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  • May their friends always like them.
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  • Lord, may-- you know?
  • 00:17:42.384 --> 00:17:43.819
  • And, um, i remember one day i just felt the lord
  • 00:17:43.819 --> 00:17:47.656
  • Challenge me on that.
  • 00:17:47.656 --> 00:17:49.525
  • Like faith,
  • 00:17:49.525 --> 00:17:51.426
  • Do you want your children to live a happy life, or do you
  • 00:17:51.426 --> 00:17:55.531
  • Want them to know me?
  • 00:17:55.531 --> 00:17:56.932
  • Mhm. you know,
  • 00:17:56.932 --> 00:17:58.167
  • Oh my goodness, maybe i'm praying the kind of prayers and
  • 00:17:58.167 --> 00:18:01.970
  • The what i'm actually trying to bless them with is just
  • 00:18:01.970 --> 00:18:07.509
  • Painless moments,
  • 00:18:07.509 --> 00:18:09.344
  • But no real faith, no real intimacy with the lord.
  • 00:18:09.344 --> 00:18:13.782
  • And although suffering is not something what god wants for
  • 00:18:13.782 --> 00:18:17.152
  • Us, it's not something that god wants for us, but it
  • 00:18:17.152 --> 00:18:20.055
  • Reveals his face.
  • 00:18:20.055 --> 00:18:21.623
  • It reveals who he is, and faith grows during that suffering.
  • 00:18:21.623 --> 00:18:26.261
  • So i had to make a really tough choice like, okay, god, i think
  • 00:18:26.261 --> 00:18:29.731
  • I need to change the way that i pray.
  • 00:18:29.731 --> 00:18:32.000
  • And it reminds me of job how at the end of the 42 chapters of
  • 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:38.507
  • Questioning, wondering why did this suffering happen?
  • 00:18:38.507 --> 00:18:42.544
  • Right? he goes, i had heard reports about you, but now my
  • 00:18:42.544 --> 00:18:47.983
  • Eyes have seen you, you know, and there's just something
  • 00:18:47.983 --> 00:18:52.254
  • About seeing god through the suffering that it's not the
  • 00:18:52.254 --> 00:18:55.724
  • Same as seeing him through happy moments.
  • 00:18:55.724 --> 00:18:59.294
  • It's so important for us as
  • 00:18:59.294 --> 00:19:01.129
  • Moms to show and display to our kids,
  • 00:19:01.129 --> 00:19:03.932
  • What do we do in suffering?
  • 00:19:03.932 --> 00:19:06.068
  • So easily,
  • 00:19:06.068 --> 00:19:06.835
  • We want to shield them from our
  • 00:19:06.835 --> 00:19:08.337
  • Pain, from our tears, from our discouragement.
  • 00:19:08.337 --> 00:19:10.839
  • But we also in those moments, we want to show them,
  • 00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:13.609
  • Where do we turn to when things are hard?
  • 00:19:13.609 --> 00:19:16.044
  • Where does mommy go to when i
  • 00:19:16.044 --> 00:19:18.080
  • Feel hurt and when i feel broken?
  • 00:19:18.080 --> 00:19:20.082
  • And that is jesus.
  • 00:19:20.082 --> 00:19:21.750
  • It is okay and it is good for our kids to see us on our
  • 00:19:21.750 --> 00:19:24.786
  • Knees, weeping before the lord
  • 00:19:24.786 --> 00:19:26.588
  • And trusting him in the hard things.
  • 00:19:26.588 --> 00:19:28.457
  • I remember saying over and over again, mommy is hurting right
  • 00:19:28.457 --> 00:19:31.526
  • Now and i'm crying, but we are going to be okay because god is
  • 00:19:31.526 --> 00:19:34.329
  • With us and he will never leave us.
  • 00:19:34.329 --> 00:19:36.531
  • He's going to be a father to the fatherless, and he will be
  • 00:19:36.531 --> 00:19:39.101
  • A defender of the widow.
  • 00:19:39.101 --> 00:19:40.535
  • And i would say that verse over and over again to my kids.
  • 00:19:40.535 --> 00:19:43.338
  • I think it's very important that we don't just teach our
  • 00:19:43.338 --> 00:19:45.807
  • Children, but we show them that jesus is faithful and that he
  • 00:19:45.807 --> 00:19:49.011
  • Has shown up time and time again, and he will
  • 00:19:49.011 --> 00:19:52.281
  • Always make a way.
  • 00:19:52.281 --> 00:19:54.650
  • You know, and i think when people go through stuff like
  • 00:19:54.650 --> 00:19:58.287
  • Brittany, you know, when you hear about friends or family
  • 00:19:58.287 --> 00:20:02.758
  • That are going through something tough like that or
  • 00:20:02.758 --> 00:20:05.193
  • Their child dies, or-- down deep inside there is a
  • 00:20:05.193 --> 00:20:10.198
  • Hope inside that, man,
  • 00:20:10.198 --> 00:20:11.833
  • They're going to see a facet of god that i can now glean that
  • 00:20:11.833 --> 00:20:17.472
  • I'm going to be able to glean.
  • 00:20:17.472 --> 00:20:18.907
  • And i've got a precious friend, cheryl, that, um, our two
  • 00:20:18.907 --> 00:20:22.778
  • Youngest babies were born just a few days apart.
  • 00:20:22.778 --> 00:20:25.681
  • And at six years old, cody and gabrielle both turned six, and
  • 00:20:25.681 --> 00:20:31.386
  • They had found a brain tumor
  • 00:20:31.386 --> 00:20:33.221
  • In gabrielle, and i watched cheryl go through that.
  • 00:20:33.221 --> 00:20:37.292
  • Right. until the baby died.
  • 00:20:37.292 --> 00:20:39.061
  • And i am telling you, there is nothing that i have gone
  • 00:20:39.061 --> 00:20:44.499
  • Through that was like that.
  • 00:20:44.499 --> 00:20:46.068
  • And i love the scripture.
  • 00:20:46.068 --> 00:20:47.369
  • When jesus says, i have prayed that your faith is strong, and
  • 00:20:47.369 --> 00:20:50.972
  • To think that god would be interceding on our behalf,
  • 00:20:50.972 --> 00:20:55.143
  • That praying that our faith is strong, you know. and i would
  • 00:20:55.143 --> 00:20:58.246
  • Think, man, cheryl's going to find god in a way that i
  • 00:20:58.246 --> 00:21:02.384
  • Just want to glean on.
  • 00:21:02.384 --> 00:21:03.685
  • I don't want that to happen to my baby, but i'm going to pray
  • 00:21:03.685 --> 00:21:06.822
  • For her and i'm going to glean in those testimonies.
  • 00:21:06.822 --> 00:21:10.292
  • The bible talks about god comforting you so that you
  • 00:21:10.292 --> 00:21:14.262
  • Can comfort others. that's right.
  • 00:21:14.262 --> 00:21:16.631
  • To draw, to draw them and share in that comforting because of
  • 00:21:16.631 --> 00:21:21.036
  • Those experiences.
  • 00:21:21.036 --> 00:21:22.504
  • So everybody's faith walk is so different and we all bring our
  • 00:21:22.504 --> 00:21:28.777
  • Story to the table.
  • 00:21:28.777 --> 00:21:30.045
  • That's why we're called the body of christ, because we all
  • 00:21:30.045 --> 00:21:33.148
  • Will experience god in so many different ways,
  • 00:21:33.148 --> 00:21:35.417
  • And it's not the same.
  • 00:21:35.417 --> 00:21:37.219
  • My story is not the same as sheila's.
  • 00:21:37.219 --> 00:21:39.955
  • It's not the same as brittney's, but we all have to
  • 00:21:39.955 --> 00:21:43.091
  • Walk by faith because in this
  • 00:21:43.091 --> 00:21:46.428
  • World you will have tribulation.
  • 00:21:46.428 --> 00:21:49.798
  • We will have suffering.
  • 00:21:49.798 --> 00:21:51.333
  • We will have.
  • 00:21:51.333 --> 00:21:52.601
  • But he's overcome. yes.
  • 00:21:52.601 --> 00:21:54.803
  • And so in his kingdom, him living through us,
  • 00:21:54.803 --> 00:21:58.707
  • Because the kingdom of god is within us.
  • 00:21:58.707 --> 00:22:00.909
  • So we're not living in a kingdom.
  • 00:22:00.909 --> 00:22:03.044
  • God's living his kingdom through us.
  • 00:22:03.044 --> 00:22:05.247
  • So living that in the righteousness and the peace and
  • 00:22:05.247 --> 00:22:08.617
  • The joy and knowing all of the things that we get to glean
  • 00:22:08.617 --> 00:22:12.988
  • From god in the time of suffering is surrendering to
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  • It, surrendering to the process of going through things that
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  • God, you are my comfort.
  • 00:22:23.398 --> 00:22:25.200
  • You will mend my broken heart doesn't mean that the pain--
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  • I think we all feel that.
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  • You know jacob, for instance.
  • 00:22:31.640 --> 00:22:34.576
  • You know, we might walk with a limp, but it reminds us of the
  • 00:22:34.576 --> 00:22:38.480
  • Goodness of god in those times.
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  • I just know that god is enough
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  • And his grace is sufficient for us.
  • 00:22:43.952 --> 00:22:46.588
  • And a lot of times we look at
  • 00:22:46.588 --> 00:22:47.589
  • Things going, i could never do that.
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  • Well, yes you could.
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  • When that time would come for you to walk through something,
  • 00:22:51.426 --> 00:22:54.229
  • God will give you the grace to walk through it.
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  • And i love you for being who you are through all of it.
  • 00:22:58.066 --> 00:23:02.504
  • Brittany, you're such a testimony.
  • 00:23:02.504 --> 00:23:04.506
  • Absolutely. i mean, you're sitting here going, i am the
  • 00:23:04.506 --> 00:23:06.274
  • Most grateful widow.
  • 00:23:06.274 --> 00:23:09.177
  • Who even starts to say that at the beginning of that journey,
  • 00:23:09.177 --> 00:23:12.714
  • Brittany and god, look what god has done in you.
  • 00:23:12.714 --> 00:23:17.486
  • Look at the restoration in you and your family
  • 00:23:17.486 --> 00:23:20.655
  • And what god can do.
  • 00:23:20.655 --> 00:23:22.557
  • And it's because you've allowed god to take you through that.
  • 00:23:22.557 --> 00:23:28.763
  • And to come out smelling like a rose is just one of the most
  • 00:23:28.763 --> 00:23:33.668
  • Beautiful things that we all get to experience.
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  • We all get to glean from from the life of god that's on
  • 00:23:36.838 --> 00:23:40.942
  • The inside of you,
  • 00:23:40.942 --> 00:23:42.310
  • The fruit of your spirit is something that we all get to
  • 00:23:42.310 --> 00:23:46.147
  • Partake from, and i love you for that.
  • 00:23:46.147 --> 00:23:48.783
  • Thank you for that encouragement.
  • 00:23:48.783 --> 00:23:49.851
  • It's a beautiful story. thank you.
  • 00:23:49.851 --> 00:23:51.653
  • Jesus has been so faithful.
  • 00:23:51.653 --> 00:23:54.689
  • When i'm going through suffering,
  • 00:23:54.689 --> 00:23:56.157
  • And i need to reconcile that
  • 00:23:56.157 --> 00:23:57.959
  • With the hope that we see in scripture,
  • 00:23:57.959 --> 00:24:01.096
  • I also have to remind myself that god promises suffering, as
  • 00:24:01.096 --> 00:24:05.233
  • In not that he wants you to suffer, but that every disciple
  • 00:24:05.233 --> 00:24:09.871
  • Can expect to suffer on this side of eternity.
  • 00:24:09.871 --> 00:24:13.708
  • As long as we are on earth, at this side of all that god is
  • 00:24:13.708 --> 00:24:18.480
  • Doing in redemptive history, we could expect there to be
  • 00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:22.083
  • Suffering because there's still evil in this world.
  • 00:24:22.083 --> 00:24:24.553
  • And so when i think, okay, how come i'm going through this
  • 00:24:24.553 --> 00:24:28.557
  • Painful situation,
  • 00:24:28.557 --> 00:24:29.758
  • And yet in the bible there's hope,
  • 00:24:29.758 --> 00:24:32.127
  • I have to also remind myself, jesus and his disciples and
  • 00:24:32.127 --> 00:24:36.298
  • Apostles talked a lot about finding joy through
  • 00:24:36.298 --> 00:24:39.634
  • Suffering as well.
  • 00:24:39.634 --> 00:24:42.037
  • One of the things i've struggled with more is when
  • 00:24:42.037 --> 00:24:45.106
  • Something not great happens to your child.
  • 00:24:45.106 --> 00:24:47.208
  • That's exactly it.
  • 00:24:47.208 --> 00:24:48.043
  • You know, it's interesting.
  • 00:24:48.043 --> 00:24:49.411
  • If i've walked through tough times, i know enough about the
  • 00:24:49.411 --> 00:24:51.780
  • Character and goodness of god to know.
  • 00:24:51.780 --> 00:24:53.848
  • Well, i don't quite understand this right now, but i know
  • 00:24:53.848 --> 00:24:56.418
  • You're here.
  • 00:24:56.418 --> 00:24:57.686
  • But when something happens to my son, that's much harder.
  • 00:24:57.686 --> 00:25:00.889
  • I remember when when covid hit and christian had moved to
  • 00:25:00.889 --> 00:25:04.759
  • Houston, you know, he was in graduate school.
  • 00:25:04.759 --> 00:25:06.795
  • And so for the whole year he couldn't go to class.
  • 00:25:06.795 --> 00:25:09.531
  • He was just in his apartment with a computer.
  • 00:25:09.531 --> 00:25:11.967
  • And he started to experience real depression.
  • 00:25:11.967 --> 00:25:14.736
  • And because that's in my story, it really scared me.
  • 00:25:14.736 --> 00:25:17.739
  • And i remember one day him, you know, we facetimed every day
  • 00:25:17.739 --> 00:25:21.376
  • But him saying, i feel like i'm in a dark tunnel, mom.
  • 00:25:21.376 --> 00:25:23.812
  • I just feel like i'm in a tunnel.
  • 00:25:23.812 --> 00:25:25.647
  • And that night, i mean, i stayed up for hours
  • 00:25:25.647 --> 00:25:29.084
  • Just praying for him.
  • 00:25:29.084 --> 00:25:30.485
  • But then the lord led me to psalm 23, where it says, even
  • 00:25:30.485 --> 00:25:34.356
  • Though i walk through the valley of the shadow of death.
  • 00:25:34.356 --> 00:25:36.558
  • And it was this understanding of the for there to be a
  • 00:25:36.558 --> 00:25:39.394
  • Shadow, there has to be light.
  • 00:25:39.394 --> 00:25:40.996
  • There's never a shadow if there's not any light.
  • 00:25:40.996 --> 00:25:43.465
  • Such a good word.
  • 00:25:43.465 --> 00:25:43.999
  • In total darkness,
  • 00:25:43.999 --> 00:25:44.933
  • There's no shadow.
  • 00:25:44.933 --> 00:25:46.201
  • And it was like the lord saying to me, sheila, i'm with him.
  • 00:25:46.201 --> 00:25:49.404
  • And i realized what you say about grace, laurie is
  • 00:25:49.404 --> 00:25:51.573
  • Absolutely right, because there's a difference between
  • 00:25:51.573 --> 00:25:54.209
  • Participant grace and spectator grace.
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  • Yeah.
  • 00:25:57.078 --> 00:25:57.779
  • You know, when you're in the
  • 00:25:57.779 --> 00:25:58.647
  • Middle of something you experience,
  • 00:25:58.647 --> 00:26:01.316
  • Whereas i looked on at my son and i'm like, lord, please,
  • 00:26:01.316 --> 00:26:03.585
  • He's not this, he's not that. do this.
  • 00:26:03.585 --> 00:26:05.687
  • But he was experiencing as he
  • 00:26:05.687 --> 00:26:07.789
  • Learned to place his trust in jesus,
  • 00:26:07.789 --> 00:26:09.658
  • And what did not make sense to him, that participant grace.
  • 00:26:09.658 --> 00:26:12.794
  • And as a spectator
  • 00:26:12.794 --> 00:26:14.095
  • As we look on and we think, oh, i could never do that.
  • 00:26:14.095 --> 00:26:16.731
  • But when you find yourself in that place, there's a grace
  • 00:26:16.731 --> 00:26:20.101
  • That's imparted that is a mystery to other people.
  • 00:26:20.101 --> 00:26:23.538
  • Yeah. and how much of it, too, is sheila,
  • 00:26:23.538 --> 00:26:26.074
  • You already had experience god's grace in that way.
  • 00:26:26.074 --> 00:26:30.245
  • Yeah. and so even being present with your son kind of, you
  • 00:26:30.245 --> 00:26:33.548
  • Know, trickles down and brittany, what you do, like
  • 00:26:33.548 --> 00:26:36.718
  • Just sharing your story so authentically allows other
  • 00:26:36.718 --> 00:26:39.554
  • People that feel like they're completely alone,
  • 00:26:39.554 --> 00:26:42.390
  • It feel less alone.
  • 00:26:42.390 --> 00:26:43.925
  • And laurie, earlier you had mentioned a scripture and it is
  • 00:26:43.925 --> 00:26:47.028
  • Actually in second corinthians,verse three.
  • 00:26:47.028 --> 00:26:49.898
  • This whole thing, actually the word comfort is used ten times.
  • 00:26:49.898 --> 00:26:53.835
  • Ten times.
  • 00:26:53.835 --> 00:26:55.136
  • But just the first six here is blessed be the god and father
  • 00:26:55.136 --> 00:26:58.773
  • Of our lord jesus christ, the father of mercies and god of
  • 00:26:58.773 --> 00:27:01.876
  • All comfort, who comforts us in all our afflictions, so that we
  • 00:27:01.876 --> 00:27:05.513
  • May be able to comfort those who are in any affliction, in
  • 00:27:05.513 --> 00:27:08.783
  • Any affliction, with the comfort with which we ourselves
  • 00:27:08.783 --> 00:27:11.986
  • Are comforted by god.
  • 00:27:11.986 --> 00:27:13.488
  • For we share abundantly in christ's suffering.
  • 00:27:13.488 --> 00:27:16.991
  • So through christ we share abundantly in comfort, too.
  • 00:27:16.991 --> 00:27:21.629
  • And i remember, i mean, my childhood was not easy.
  • 00:27:21.629 --> 00:27:25.400
  • My parents divorced when i was seven.
  • 00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:27.335
  • I'm the oldest of three girls, and my mother did the best
  • 00:27:27.335 --> 00:27:31.172
  • With what she had. it wasn't great.
  • 00:27:31.172 --> 00:27:33.908
  • Um, i grew up in a very abusive home, and my--
  • 00:27:33.908 --> 00:27:37.412
  • And she kept my father from us in the divorce.
  • 00:27:37.412 --> 00:27:40.515
  • And when you're a kid, you
  • 00:27:40.515 --> 00:27:41.449
  • Don't really know these things, right?
  • 00:27:41.449 --> 00:27:43.351
  • And i just remember thinking, why would my dad leave me with
  • 00:27:43.351 --> 00:27:47.255
  • Her? and then we got older and i always had some kind of,
  • 00:27:47.255 --> 00:27:52.894
  • Like, a friendship kind of relationship with my dad.
  • 00:27:52.894 --> 00:27:54.496
  • And my dad never said anything terrible about her.
  • 00:27:54.496 --> 00:27:58.299
  • And then as we got older, i,
  • 00:27:58.299 --> 00:27:59.734
  • You know, i was an adult at this point, married.
  • 00:27:59.734 --> 00:28:02.237
  • I had my first child and i asked him, i said, can i
  • 00:28:02.237 --> 00:28:05.206
  • Just ask you why?
  • 00:28:05.206 --> 00:28:06.441
  • Because that was so hard for for us.
  • 00:28:06.441 --> 00:28:10.345
  • It was so hard for me.
  • 00:28:10.345 --> 00:28:11.579
  • And he didn't one know it was that hard.
  • 00:28:11.579 --> 00:28:13.982
  • He knew it was hard, but he didn't know.
  • 00:28:13.982 --> 00:28:15.416
  • But then these things started coming out where he did tell
  • 00:28:15.416 --> 00:28:18.219
  • Us, like, you know, your mom didn't let me come see you
  • 00:28:18.219 --> 00:28:20.622
  • Until certain things were done.
  • 00:28:20.622 --> 00:28:22.157
  • And i'm not throwing her under the bus, like
  • 00:28:22.157 --> 00:28:25.260
  • Life is life.
  • 00:28:25.260 --> 00:28:26.795
  • It is difficult.
  • 00:28:26.795 --> 00:28:28.263
  • I know that they did the best with what they could.
  • 00:28:28.263 --> 00:28:30.598
  • And then fast forward about ten years ago, my dad was diagnosed
  • 00:28:30.598 --> 00:28:35.270
  • With pancreatic cancer.
  • 00:28:35.270 --> 00:28:37.539
  • And by the time he found out, it was like being on stage for
  • 00:28:37.539 --> 00:28:41.342
  • It, like spread everywhere.
  • 00:28:41.342 --> 00:28:43.378
  • And i remember sitting with him, my sisters and i sat
  • 00:28:43.378 --> 00:28:45.280
  • With him and just
  • 00:28:45.280 --> 00:28:47.549
  • Watched our father slowly fade away and disappear.
  • 00:28:47.549 --> 00:28:52.453
  • And it's a painful cancer.
  • 00:28:52.453 --> 00:28:54.455
  • It's suffering at its greatest.
  • 00:28:54.455 --> 00:28:56.457
  • And i remember in my mind
  • 00:28:56.457 --> 00:28:57.659
  • Thinking all of that in the past.
  • 00:28:57.659 --> 00:29:00.695
  • And now
  • 00:29:00.695 --> 00:29:02.397
  • You're taking my dad away.
  • 00:29:02.397 --> 00:29:04.232
  • And not only that, like this terrible part of my mind was,
  • 00:29:04.232 --> 00:29:07.702
  • God, was this the,
  • 00:29:07.702 --> 00:29:08.703
  • It was the wrong parent, almost.
  • 00:29:08.703 --> 00:29:10.405
  • And then i felt immediate guilt of thinking that.
  • 00:29:10.405 --> 00:29:12.874
  • Because who would ever want anything-- but really like want
  • 00:29:12.874 --> 00:29:16.144
  • Want the other, right.
  • 00:29:16.144 --> 00:29:17.278
  • But i wanted more time with my dad that i felt like
  • 00:29:17.278 --> 00:29:19.981
  • Was stolen from me.
  • 00:29:19.981 --> 00:29:21.182
  • But i remember thinking, i remember coming to actually
  • 00:29:21.182 --> 00:29:23.785
  • This passage as i was reading.
  • 00:29:23.785 --> 00:29:25.720
  • And it was interesting how, um, a couple of people in my life,
  • 00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:30.892
  • I confessed that to them, and i was like, i know this is
  • 00:29:30.892 --> 00:29:33.094
  • Terrible, but i confessed it.
  • 00:29:33.094 --> 00:29:34.729
  • They comforted me in sharing, hey, you're not the worst
  • 00:29:34.729 --> 00:29:37.799
  • Person in the world.
  • 00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:39.067
  • You're not out there trying to do bad things.
  • 00:29:39.067 --> 00:29:41.870
  • You are actually confessing to god and to your community,
  • 00:29:41.870 --> 00:29:46.274
  • This is hard.
  • 00:29:46.274 --> 00:29:48.009
  • And i don't know how to hold this for myself.
  • 00:29:48.009 --> 00:29:51.546
  • A first daughter like trying to hold that tension for
  • 00:29:51.546 --> 00:29:54.549
  • Everybody, you know.
  • 00:29:54.549 --> 00:29:55.750
  • And it is this interesting juxtaposition of i remember
  • 00:29:55.750 --> 00:30:00.922
  • Feeling like, oh, this person that i just confessed this to
  • 00:30:00.922 --> 00:30:03.758
  • Had gone through this before, and now they could hold space
  • 00:30:03.758 --> 00:30:07.295
  • In a right way.
  • 00:30:07.295 --> 00:30:08.563
  • When my brain was going all over the place, my feelings
  • 00:30:08.563 --> 00:30:10.765
  • Were everywhere, hold a place for me,
  • 00:30:10.765 --> 00:30:12.934
  • A space for me to really understand god fuller and
  • 00:30:12.934 --> 00:30:17.272
  • See his grace in that.
  • 00:30:17.272 --> 00:30:18.840
  • And so you all said things that are real examples of you being
  • 00:30:18.840 --> 00:30:23.511
  • Present in other people's lives as they are suffering and going
  • 00:30:23.511 --> 00:30:27.916
  • Through it in their time.
  • 00:30:27.916 --> 00:30:29.217
  • And it does say it's in all our affliction, not just this one
  • 00:30:29.217 --> 00:30:32.553
  • Or that one, but it's in all of it.
  • 00:30:32.553 --> 00:30:34.923
  • So, uh, how great that we have this big god to kind of cover
  • 00:30:34.923 --> 00:30:39.794
  • All of these areas for us.
  • 00:30:39.794 --> 00:30:43.064
  • When we go through suffering with god,
  • 00:30:43.064 --> 00:30:45.867
  • Then he uses that testimony to comfort others.
  • 00:30:45.867 --> 00:30:49.470
  • So the god that you experience when you go through times of
  • 00:30:49.470 --> 00:30:53.074
  • Hardship is the same god that you offer to others when
  • 00:30:53.074 --> 00:30:57.612
  • They're going through similar times of hardship, there is a
  • 00:30:57.612 --> 00:31:00.548
  • Plunder that you are going to gain as you go through this
  • 00:31:00.548 --> 00:31:04.552
  • Season, and you're going to be able to share that plunder to
  • 00:31:04.552 --> 00:31:08.656
  • Those others who are going to go through similar seasons.
  • 00:31:08.656 --> 00:31:13.027
  • And he doesn't waste any pain.
  • 00:31:13.027 --> 00:31:15.129
  • And he doesn't compare pain, does
  • 00:31:15.129 --> 00:31:16.931
  • It say the god who comforts you,
  • 00:31:16.931 --> 00:31:19.133
  • And only if you walk through this, and then you can only
  • 00:31:19.133 --> 00:31:21.502
  • Comfort people if they've walked through this?
  • 00:31:21.502 --> 00:31:23.705
  • No, it says the god of all comfort.
  • 00:31:23.705 --> 00:31:25.640
  • Comfort. that has given us the
  • 00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:27.275
  • Comfort that we can comfort people in any affliction.
  • 00:31:27.275 --> 00:31:30.645
  • The people that stepped in my story, they didn't have the
  • 00:31:30.645 --> 00:31:33.581
  • Same story as me.
  • 00:31:33.581 --> 00:31:34.716
  • They had the same god.
  • 00:31:34.716 --> 00:31:35.683
  • They had the same hope.
  • 00:31:35.683 --> 00:31:36.851
  • They had the same comfort.
  • 00:31:36.851 --> 00:31:38.319
  • That is what matters.
  • 00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:39.320
  • It's our god.
  • 00:31:39.320 --> 00:31:40.154
  • It is not our stories.
  • 00:31:40.154 --> 00:31:41.422
  • It is the god that showed up in our stories.
  • 00:31:41.422 --> 00:31:44.092
  • I don't have something in me.
  • 00:31:44.092 --> 00:31:45.426
  • I have something in god.
  • 00:31:45.426 --> 00:31:47.028
  • God alone has it to offer.
  • 00:31:47.028 --> 00:31:48.763
  • And so when we go and we step into people's stories, we bring
  • 00:31:48.763 --> 00:31:52.433
  • The comfort of god, not us.
  • 00:31:52.433 --> 00:31:54.235
  • Right. and so we don't ever be
  • 00:31:54.235 --> 00:31:55.703
  • In the business of comparing pain.
  • 00:31:55.703 --> 00:31:57.238
  • I remember one time a friend being like, i'm scared to talk
  • 00:31:57.238 --> 00:31:59.640
  • To you about my night of rest that i didn't have with my baby
  • 00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:03.011
  • Because you just lost your husband.
  • 00:32:03.011 --> 00:32:04.445
  • And i looked at her and i said, i want to hear all about it.
  • 00:32:04.445 --> 00:32:07.015
  • And that is hard. that is your hard.
  • 00:32:07.015 --> 00:32:08.716
  • You're walking through because all of us have a story.
  • 00:32:08.716 --> 00:32:11.452
  • All of us have hard.
  • 00:32:11.452 --> 00:32:12.820
  • And as friends, it's wrong to compare it.
  • 00:32:12.820 --> 00:32:15.623
  • Your pain is your pain and it consumes you.
  • 00:32:15.623 --> 00:32:18.292
  • And that's the beauty of god is god says, i'm going to meet
  • 00:32:18.292 --> 00:32:21.396
  • With you in all pain, in all ways.
  • 00:32:21.396 --> 00:32:23.998
  • And you know, he doesn't waste the stories of our lives.
  • 00:32:23.998 --> 00:32:26.100
  • He doesn't waste the pain.
  • 00:32:26.100 --> 00:32:27.568
  • You know, when you walk through something hard, like your
  • 00:32:27.568 --> 00:32:29.837
  • Friend that ministered to you when you lost your dad,
  • 00:32:29.837 --> 00:32:32.840
  • When you lost your dad,
  • 00:32:32.840 --> 00:32:34.442
  • Now you love people.
  • 00:32:34.442 --> 00:32:36.377
  • You view people in a whole different way because you've
  • 00:32:36.377 --> 00:32:39.380
  • Walked through that.
  • 00:32:39.380 --> 00:32:40.615
  • I will never walk through an airport the same ever again.
  • 00:32:40.615 --> 00:32:42.850
  • I'm telling you, i think, how
  • 00:32:42.850 --> 00:32:44.519
  • Many stories in this room of pain.
  • 00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:47.955
  • Everyone looks fine on the outside, but you never know
  • 00:32:47.955 --> 00:32:50.391
  • What people are walking through.
  • 00:32:50.391 --> 00:32:51.926
  • And it just reminds me of the power of god.
  • 00:32:51.926 --> 00:32:54.462
  • Yet all of us are walking through pain,
  • 00:32:54.462 --> 00:32:55.963
  • But we all can have an experience,
  • 00:32:55.963 --> 00:32:58.699
  • The comfort of jesus.
  • 00:32:58.699 --> 00:32:59.801
  • That's so good.
  • 00:32:59.801 --> 00:33:00.902
  • He took on our pain and suffering so that we could
  • 00:33:00.902 --> 00:33:03.171
  • Choose him, that we could look to him because he carried it
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  • For us, you know.
  • 00:33:07.642 --> 00:33:10.278
  • Because jesus suffered the ultimate suffering, we can
  • 00:33:10.278 --> 00:33:15.183
  • Absolutely believe that god understands our pain to the
  • 00:33:15.183 --> 00:33:19.187
  • Deepest level.
  • 00:33:19.187 --> 00:33:20.822
  • Jesus is there to go first, really to help us understand,
  • 00:33:20.822 --> 00:33:25.393
  • Um, not only that, we're not alone in our suffering, but
  • 00:33:25.393 --> 00:33:28.763
  • Someone has gone before us in that and that he knows exactly
  • 00:33:28.763 --> 00:33:32.834
  • How to hold us and how to comfort us.
  • 00:33:32.834 --> 00:33:35.303
  • We know how to comfort our children and our friends.
  • 00:33:35.303 --> 00:33:37.839
  • If we've gone through something similar or just gone through
  • 00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:40.508
  • Some suffering of our own.
  • 00:33:40.508 --> 00:33:41.909
  • Can you imagine the god of the universe, a jesus that has
  • 00:33:41.909 --> 00:33:44.579
  • Suffered the ultimate death on a cross, coming to comfort us
  • 00:33:44.579 --> 00:33:50.318
  • In our own hardships?
  • 00:33:50.318 --> 00:33:52.420
  • That's so--
  • 00:33:52.420 --> 00:33:54.222
  • It's such a healing place to sit.
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  • Hey, everybody.
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  • Sheila here with faith, and we're talking about some of the
  • 00:34:05.166 --> 00:34:07.502
  • Things that we've talked about and better together.
  • 00:34:07.502 --> 00:34:09.170
  • And i wanted to talk about
  • 00:34:09.170 --> 00:34:10.805
  • A lot of people think when they suffer,
  • 00:34:10.805 --> 00:34:13.808
  • Is this a punishment from god?
  • 00:34:13.808 --> 00:34:15.643
  • Like, am i suffering like if i'm in a bad place right now?
  • 00:34:15.643 --> 00:34:18.179
  • Is that because god's mad with me?
  • 00:34:18.179 --> 00:34:20.181
  • I don't think god would make us pay for everything that
  • 00:34:20.181 --> 00:34:23.751
  • We've done wrong.
  • 00:34:23.751 --> 00:34:25.186
  • Sometimes suffering happens just because we live in a world
  • 00:34:25.186 --> 00:34:28.823
  • That's still under the duress of evil.
  • 00:34:28.823 --> 00:34:31.425
  • Yeah. right.
  • 00:34:31.425 --> 00:34:32.727
  • And we still live in this day and time where although jesus
  • 00:34:32.727 --> 00:34:34.929
  • Has died for our sins, he has
  • 00:34:34.929 --> 00:34:37.031
  • Not made all things perfect and new.
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  • Yeah.
  • 00:34:39.100 --> 00:34:40.268
  • And i think there's a difference between, like, if i
  • 00:34:40.268 --> 00:34:42.303
  • Consciously do something that i know is wrong, there are
  • 00:34:42.303 --> 00:34:45.139
  • Consequences to that.
  • 00:34:45.139 --> 00:34:46.541
  • And for me, it's usually
  • 00:34:46.541 --> 00:34:47.408
  • Something like, um, like last night.
  • 00:34:47.408 --> 00:34:49.777
  • Yay! let's keep it current.
  • 00:34:49.777 --> 00:34:51.379
  • I got mad with barry about something.
  • 00:34:51.379 --> 00:34:54.215
  • Tell me more. keep going.
  • 00:34:54.215 --> 00:34:56.584
  • But it was just-- and i--
  • 00:34:56.584 --> 00:34:59.353
  • But i should know better.
  • 00:34:59.353 --> 00:35:00.788
  • I mean, i should know better when,
  • 00:35:00.788 --> 00:35:02.490
  • When i get like that,
  • 00:35:02.490 --> 00:35:03.424
  • When i'm really tired
  • 00:35:03.424 --> 00:35:04.492
  • Because i've just flown back in
  • 00:35:04.492 --> 00:35:05.626
  • From somewhere else, and i was tired.
  • 00:35:05.626 --> 00:35:07.428
  • And i should know better than
  • 00:35:07.428 --> 00:35:08.729
  • To pull back immediately, and i didn't.
  • 00:35:08.729 --> 00:35:10.731
  • I was just, i was just mad.
  • 00:35:10.731 --> 00:35:11.999
  • And then, you know, so there's consequences to that.
  • 00:35:11.999 --> 00:35:15.169
  • There's like a little breach until i was able to say, look,
  • 00:35:15.169 --> 00:35:17.905
  • I'm really sorry. i'm tired.
  • 00:35:17.905 --> 00:35:19.273
  • I didn't know.
  • 00:35:19.273 --> 00:35:20.474
  • So, you know, sometimes you have to make things right.
  • 00:35:20.474 --> 00:35:24.111
  • But if you find yourself in a hard place right now and you're
  • 00:35:24.111 --> 00:35:26.914
  • Thinking, is this because god's mad with me,
  • 00:35:26.914 --> 00:35:28.749
  • No. absolutely not.
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  • God loves you.
  • 00:35:30.651 --> 00:35:31.819
  • God is watching over you.
  • 00:35:31.819 --> 00:35:33.120
  • God cares for you.
  • 00:35:33.120 --> 00:35:34.655
  • And not only that, but he's promised that he'll see us
  • 00:35:34.655 --> 00:35:37.391
  • Through the hard things in life.
  • 00:35:37.391 --> 00:35:40.194
  • Have you ever been in a situation where you think, god,
  • 00:35:40.194 --> 00:35:43.130
  • When is this going to end? oh.
  • 00:35:43.130 --> 00:35:45.499
  • All the time. all the time.
  • 00:35:45.499 --> 00:35:48.135
  • And you know, i find that god would never really punish us
  • 00:35:48.135 --> 00:35:52.073
  • Into purity.
  • 00:35:52.073 --> 00:35:53.140
  • That's just not really what god does.
  • 00:35:53.140 --> 00:35:54.675
  • It's his kindness that will lead us into repentance.
  • 00:35:54.675 --> 00:35:57.778
  • And so whenever i get into this place where i'm starting to
  • 00:35:57.778 --> 00:36:00.248
  • Condemn myself for the suffering, that is when we
  • 00:36:00.248 --> 00:36:04.719
  • Should pivot, and that should be the alarm to say, oh,
  • 00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:08.155
  • This is not of god.
  • 00:36:08.155 --> 00:36:09.457
  • This is not something that god would do.
  • 00:36:09.457 --> 00:36:11.692
  • Yeah. and i think too, the the greater the pain,
  • 00:36:11.692 --> 00:36:14.462
  • The more you run to god.
  • 00:36:14.462 --> 00:36:16.364
  • You know, sometimes we think if we're in a bad place that we
  • 00:36:16.364 --> 00:36:19.000
  • Just, that we'll wait until we've got our act cleaned up
  • 00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:22.003
  • And then come back to god.
  • 00:36:22.003 --> 00:36:23.904
  • But if you're in a rough place right now, if you're in a place
  • 00:36:23.904 --> 00:36:26.107
  • Where you are suffering either because of something that
  • 00:36:26.107 --> 00:36:29.110
  • Happened to you or something you did, i would just really
  • 00:36:29.110 --> 00:36:32.713
  • Encourage you to just,
  • 00:36:32.713 --> 00:36:34.882
  • I remember when our son was little, i used to say to him
  • 00:36:34.882 --> 00:36:37.084
  • That when the bigger the
  • 00:36:37.084 --> 00:36:38.085
  • Problem, the faster you run home.
  • 00:36:38.085 --> 00:36:40.187
  • And it's the same with your father.
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  • The bigger the problem, the faster you run home.
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  • Amen.
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  • It is important not to hide our grief from god.
  • 00:37:00.710 --> 00:37:03.413
  • God does sit with us in our pain.
  • 00:37:03.413 --> 00:37:05.948
  • He does mourn with us.
  • 00:37:05.948 --> 00:37:07.650
  • One of my favorite things in scripture was when jesus
  • 00:37:07.650 --> 00:37:11.087
  • Wept with people.
  • 00:37:11.087 --> 00:37:12.588
  • He weeps with us and he cares about everything going on
  • 00:37:12.588 --> 00:37:15.725
  • In our lives.
  • 00:37:15.725 --> 00:37:16.959
  • He cares about every joy and every sorrow, and he is god
  • 00:37:16.959 --> 00:37:19.696
  • With us in it all.
  • 00:37:19.696 --> 00:37:22.732
  • I think sometimes we forget that joy is the fruit of
  • 00:37:26.269 --> 00:37:28.738
  • The holy spirit. yeah.
  • 00:37:28.738 --> 00:37:30.740
  • You know, and i think we feel like we're failing because we
  • 00:37:30.740 --> 00:37:33.443
  • Cannot produce it when we're going through a lot of pain and
  • 00:37:33.443 --> 00:37:37.280
  • Suffering, when we're disappointed, discouraged.
  • 00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:40.450
  • And i know for myself, because i experienced, um, a lot of
  • 00:37:40.450 --> 00:37:45.355
  • Depression and anxiety growing up because of, like, it was a
  • 00:37:45.355 --> 00:37:48.825
  • Genetic thing, you know, after having had blood tests done, it
  • 00:37:48.825 --> 00:37:52.261
  • Was a genetic mutation that made me more prone to it,
  • 00:37:52.261 --> 00:37:55.798
  • But i never understood it. right.
  • 00:37:55.798 --> 00:37:58.101
  • And so and i didn't understand why when i became a
  • 00:37:58.101 --> 00:38:01.504
  • Believer, why joy just didn't, like, happen.
  • 00:38:01.504 --> 00:38:04.507
  • It almost felt like a performance, right?
  • 00:38:04.507 --> 00:38:07.243
  • And when you hear of testimonies of how, you know,
  • 00:38:07.243 --> 00:38:10.646
  • Somebody went through something crazy and, and yet they still
  • 00:38:10.646 --> 00:38:13.716
  • Praise the lord, i felt like a failure,
  • 00:38:13.716 --> 00:38:16.786
  • Right, um, because i felt like i could not conjure up this
  • 00:38:16.786 --> 00:38:20.990
  • Feeling that other people seem to be able to create.
  • 00:38:20.990 --> 00:38:25.628
  • Um, but until i realized that,
  • 00:38:25.628 --> 00:38:27.897
  • Wait. this is the fruit of the holy spirit.
  • 00:38:27.897 --> 00:38:29.899
  • It's his to create.
  • 00:38:29.899 --> 00:38:31.501
  • My only job is to cling.
  • 00:38:31.501 --> 00:38:34.003
  • Cling onto jesus.
  • 00:38:34.003 --> 00:38:36.005
  • And that suffering and that pain cannot stop his light
  • 00:38:36.005 --> 00:38:40.643
  • From shining through.
  • 00:38:40.643 --> 00:38:42.478
  • I mean, apostle paul wasn't sure whether he was going to
  • 00:38:42.478 --> 00:38:45.014
  • Get executed the next day or staying in prison for the rest
  • 00:38:45.014 --> 00:38:48.284
  • Of his life when he was writing philippians.
  • 00:38:48.284 --> 00:38:50.353
  • Right. he didn't know what the future held.
  • 00:38:50.353 --> 00:38:51.921
  • He just knew that he was
  • 00:38:51.921 --> 00:38:53.489
  • Unjustly held captive and in a prison.
  • 00:38:53.489 --> 00:38:57.393
  • And yet he didn't know he was changing the world while
  • 00:38:57.393 --> 00:39:00.496
  • He was in prison.
  • 00:39:00.496 --> 00:39:02.131
  • And it mentioned some rendition of joy at least 16 times
  • 00:39:02.131 --> 00:39:05.768
  • In that tiny little book.
  • 00:39:05.768 --> 00:39:07.670
  • Right? and it just goes to show it's we don't need to be
  • 00:39:07.670 --> 00:39:11.774
  • Brighter, better, stronger in the midst of our pain.
  • 00:39:11.774 --> 00:39:15.711
  • We need to just let his light shine.
  • 00:39:15.711 --> 00:39:18.781
  • Right.
  • 00:39:18.781 --> 00:39:19.615
  • You know, it's let his light shine.
  • 00:39:19.615 --> 00:39:21.517
  • Not you shine brighter, right.
  • 00:39:21.517 --> 00:39:24.120
  • And i think sometimes we put this religious pressure
  • 00:39:24.120 --> 00:39:26.856
  • Upon ourselves to be the kind of person that god
  • 00:39:26.856 --> 00:39:29.525
  • Could be pleased with. right.
  • 00:39:29.525 --> 00:39:31.160
  • Um, but in that time, in your suffering, it's really
  • 00:39:31.160 --> 00:39:33.996
  • Just clinging to jesus because it's abiding in that presence
  • 00:39:33.996 --> 00:39:38.334
  • Of god that produces that fruit.
  • 00:39:38.334 --> 00:39:41.037
  • So remember, the kingdom of god is righteousness, peace, and
  • 00:39:41.037 --> 00:39:45.741
  • Joy in the holy spirit.
  • 00:39:45.741 --> 00:39:47.543
  • So since we have part of the godhead living on the inside of
  • 00:39:47.543 --> 00:39:52.482
  • Us, jesus said, it's better that i go away, because then
  • 00:39:52.482 --> 00:39:55.651
  • The holy spirit's going to come and live in you,
  • 00:39:55.651 --> 00:39:58.187
  • The one that overcomes,
  • 00:39:58.187 --> 00:39:59.188
  • The one that helps, the one who overcomes.
  • 00:39:59.188 --> 00:40:02.658
  • Right. so to count it all joy whenever you fall into these
  • 00:40:02.658 --> 00:40:08.030
  • Things, these temptations and these trials, and then says to
  • 00:40:08.030 --> 00:40:12.568
  • Rejoice yourself in the lord.
  • 00:40:12.568 --> 00:40:14.403
  • Rejoice, o my soul, rejoice.
  • 00:40:14.403 --> 00:40:18.574
  • Rejoice yourself.
  • 00:40:18.574 --> 00:40:20.776
  • So we have to lean in to rejoice ourselves.
  • 00:40:20.776 --> 00:40:23.946
  • And i love what nona said the other day.
  • 00:40:23.946 --> 00:40:26.148
  • Do you know what i'm talking about?
  • 00:40:26.148 --> 00:40:27.383
  • She said, she said, when you rejoice yourself,
  • 00:40:27.383 --> 00:40:31.587
  • She said the joy was there for you at the moment and you
  • 00:40:31.587 --> 00:40:36.592
  • Might have missed it.
  • 00:40:36.592 --> 00:40:37.793
  • You can go back and rejoice because it's there for you
  • 00:40:37.793 --> 00:40:42.331
  • All the time to rejoice in your suffering.
  • 00:40:42.331 --> 00:40:45.801
  • How do you-- but the holy spirit in us can help us to rejoice.
  • 00:40:45.801 --> 00:40:51.807
  • And that's just something we just have to experience.
  • 00:40:51.807 --> 00:40:56.245
  • Probably when i've gone through a situation that has just kind
  • 00:40:56.245 --> 00:40:59.815
  • Of taken everything out of me,
  • 00:40:59.815 --> 00:41:01.884
  • I find time to rejoice in the lord.
  • 00:41:01.884 --> 00:41:04.987
  • That means to rejoice myself.
  • 00:41:04.987 --> 00:41:07.557
  • It says, choose to rejoice, o my soul, i will rejoice.
  • 00:41:07.557 --> 00:41:12.895
  • And so it's something that i choose, that i get to choose.
  • 00:41:12.895 --> 00:41:17.366
  • I get to choose to rejoice, to rejoice myself in the lord.
  • 00:41:17.366 --> 00:41:21.938
  • And that comes from just worship.
  • 00:41:21.938 --> 00:41:24.273
  • Putting your eyes on god, telling him how magnificent
  • 00:41:24.273 --> 00:41:28.010
  • And holy he is.
  • 00:41:28.010 --> 00:41:29.645
  • Thank him for the blessings in your life.
  • 00:41:29.645 --> 00:41:32.381
  • All of a sudden your world starts changing.
  • 00:41:32.381 --> 00:41:34.917
  • Your perspective starts changing.
  • 00:41:34.917 --> 00:41:36.953
  • I thank you god that you're watching over me, that you see
  • 00:41:36.953 --> 00:41:39.789
  • Everything in my life that concerns me and that you are
  • 00:41:39.789 --> 00:41:42.792
  • The holder of life, and that everything that pertains to
  • 00:41:42.792 --> 00:41:45.962
  • Life and godliness comes from you.
  • 00:41:45.962 --> 00:41:48.397
  • I will rejoice in the lord and all of a sudden you start
  • 00:41:48.397 --> 00:41:51.934
  • Speaking. grab your psalms, you start reading some of those
  • 00:41:51.934 --> 00:41:54.770
  • Things and i'm telling you, up in your spirit rises hope, love
  • 00:41:54.770 --> 00:41:59.642
  • And joy and a peace that passes
  • 00:41:59.642 --> 00:42:02.011
  • Anything you could ever imagine.
  • 00:42:02.011 --> 00:42:04.647
  • Even when you mentioned philippians,
  • 00:42:04.647 --> 00:42:06.449
  • What i love about that, the beginning of that letter, is
  • 00:42:06.449 --> 00:42:09.118
  • The way he recognizes god in
  • 00:42:09.118 --> 00:42:10.920
  • The situation because he's changed.
  • 00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:12.989
  • You know, he doesn't know. as you say, he could be executed.
  • 00:42:12.989 --> 00:42:15.524
  • He could be released. he could stay in prison.
  • 00:42:15.524 --> 00:42:17.393
  • But he says to the people he's writing to,
  • 00:42:17.393 --> 00:42:19.829
  • But here's the deal.
  • 00:42:19.829 --> 00:42:21.063
  • All the guards here, they know why i'm here.
  • 00:42:21.063 --> 00:42:23.299
  • I'm here because i refuse to renounce the name of jesus.
  • 00:42:23.299 --> 00:42:27.503
  • But then he goes on to say, and the other believers, rather
  • 00:42:27.503 --> 00:42:30.406
  • Than thinking, oh gosh, this is terrible, we'd better hide our
  • 00:42:30.406 --> 00:42:33.309
  • Faith, are becoming encouraged.
  • 00:42:33.309 --> 00:42:35.411
  • So i think one of the things that's amazing about it is you
  • 00:42:35.411 --> 00:42:38.147
  • Can find yourself in a bad
  • 00:42:38.147 --> 00:42:39.315
  • Place, but recognize god's in it.
  • 00:42:39.315 --> 00:42:41.851
  • Yeah. and people are watching and things are happening that
  • 00:42:41.851 --> 00:42:45.021
  • That we, you can't see at that moment.
  • 00:42:45.021 --> 00:42:47.223
  • But i just, i can't wait to meet paul.
  • 00:42:47.223 --> 00:42:50.426
  • I know so many questions. right.
  • 00:42:50.426 --> 00:42:52.928
  • Me too. well, i just, i just want
  • 00:42:52.928 --> 00:42:54.196
  • To thank him so much for the fact that in the worst moments
  • 00:42:54.196 --> 00:42:57.700
  • Of his life, he wrote to us and said, listen, i know this looks
  • 00:42:57.700 --> 00:43:01.170
  • Like you're chained up here.
  • 00:43:01.170 --> 00:43:02.471
  • I know this looks like it all went wrong, but a, know that god
  • 00:43:02.471 --> 00:43:06.108
  • Is with you, and b, that know that people are watching,
  • 00:43:06.108 --> 00:43:08.544
  • You know, and all of this is going to bring glory to god.
  • 00:43:08.544 --> 00:43:12.281
  • And he's the great redeemer and restorer.
  • 00:43:12.281 --> 00:43:15.117
  • And i think so often when we think of that, we think
  • 00:43:15.117 --> 00:43:17.386
  • Of that in human terms. right?
  • 00:43:17.386 --> 00:43:19.188
  • In human terms, we think redeeming and restoring is
  • 00:43:19.188 --> 00:43:22.825
  • Bringing it back to where it was.
  • 00:43:22.825 --> 00:43:24.560
  • Right? and i, i can look at my lives and there's lots of
  • 00:43:24.560 --> 00:43:28.464
  • Things that god has done to redeem my story.
  • 00:43:28.464 --> 00:43:31.367
  • I'm not that same person that i was ten years ago when i
  • 00:43:31.367 --> 00:43:35.071
  • Was this new mom walking through all this.
  • 00:43:35.071 --> 00:43:37.406
  • God has redeemed and restored so much in my life.
  • 00:43:37.406 --> 00:43:39.642
  • But there are things that will never be restored or redeemed
  • 00:43:39.642 --> 00:43:42.411
  • On this side of eternity.
  • 00:43:42.411 --> 00:43:43.946
  • But god has redeemed me. yes.
  • 00:43:43.946 --> 00:43:46.515
  • And that's what he does. yeah.
  • 00:43:46.515 --> 00:43:48.050
  • So when we think about it through heavenly terms of
  • 00:43:48.050 --> 00:43:50.786
  • Going, christ is the redeemer,
  • 00:43:50.786 --> 00:43:53.422
  • Christ is the restorer,
  • 00:43:53.422 --> 00:43:55.224
  • Christ is the reward,
  • 00:43:55.224 --> 00:43:56.926
  • Christ is the treasure,
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  • He is the light in the darkness,
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  • That is what he does in us.
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  • And so in all of our stories, you know, you may look at it
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  • And think, how could you redeem this god?
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  • How could you redeem it?
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  • He can redeem you, and he is after you in all of it.
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  • And that is the point. so good.
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  • And so i think so often we can feel disappointed in our life
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  • And go, god, you promised to redeem it.
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  • You can't bring this person back.
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  • You can't do all these things that were missing.
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  • And we lose sight of who god is and what he's done.
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  • So when we have the kingdom perspective to look, if i look
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  • At the grave, all i'm going to see is the grave.
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  • I'm going to see only things i've lost.
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  • God, you haven't redeemed this.
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  • My kid cried at his birthday again because his dad never
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  • Knew him as a ten year old.
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  • You know, you can look at all these things, and all you see
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  • Is the loss that haven't been redeemed.
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  • But if you look up-- yeah.
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  • And you look up to jesus,
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  • You say, god, i have known you deeper.
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  • I have known you more intimately.
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  • You have redeemed this.
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  • You have restored in this the joy of my salvation.
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  • You have been faithful.
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  • You have been kind.
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  • God is the restorer and redeemer of our souls.
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  • If we would only have the perspective to not look down at
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  • Our hurt, but look up to the hope that he offers and the
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  • Ways that he works miraculously in all of our lives.
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  • Right. and you know, our god is a god who suffered.
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  • Yes. a god who suffered.
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  • And we are made in the image of god.
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  • So we also get to suffer in in his narrative, not not our
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  • Narrative, in his narrative. right.
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  • But in joel it says, we will be restored the years the
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  • Locusts have eaten. yeah.
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  • And that restoration doesn't
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  • Mean we're restored to what was. it's gone.
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  • We get to be restored to what is and what is meant to be.
  • 00:45:38.761 --> 00:45:42.898
  • And so releasing some of that control of of how, how do i
  • 00:45:42.898 --> 00:45:47.770
  • Want this to be,
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  • How does it need to be like suffering is,
  • 00:45:48.771 --> 00:45:51.273
  • Because it wasn't my vision of how my life was supposed to be,
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  • But what if it's supposed to be something else that god has
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  • That's far more beautiful for far more restored?
  • 00:46:01.350 --> 00:46:05.087
  • Right? and we got to trust that.
  • 00:46:05.087 --> 00:46:06.488
  • And it's his timeline in the end.
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  • You may feel like your life is so broken right now, and you
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  • May think that there's nothing that could restore joy or
  • 00:46:12.628 --> 00:46:17.099
  • Restore beauty into your life again.
  • 00:46:17.099 --> 00:46:19.435
  • And i want to encourage you if you are in that place.
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  • I have been there before.
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  • I have not been able to see past the pain, the deep dark
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  • Hole that i have been in.
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  • But on the other side of it, i can tell you that god redeemed.
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  • God restored, and he did so much in my heart and life
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  • Better than i could ever dream or imagine
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  • Because that is who he is.
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  • He is the healer.
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  • He is the restorer, and he is
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  • The redeemer in all of our lives.
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  • Your best days are not behind you.
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  • They are ahead of you because
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  • Heaven is ahead and hope is ahead.
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  • And do not listen to that enemy's lies that says that you
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  • Have nothing good ahead of you.
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  • There is always good ahead of you because of jesus and
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  • His goodness in your life.
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  • Something that i do that helps me go through it when we go
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  • Through it is, this is my one shot.
  • 00:47:05.514 --> 00:47:08.884
  • Because one day we're not going to need faith. right.
  • 00:47:08.884 --> 00:47:12.955
  • One day we're not going to need to hope.
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  • He's going to be obvious.
  • 00:47:17.092 --> 00:47:19.261
  • You know, faith is the proof of what's unseen, right?
  • 00:47:19.261 --> 00:47:22.531
  • But one day we're going to see.
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  • And i think this is my one shot
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  • To worship him through the pain.
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  • This is my one shot to love him through the mystery,
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  • Through the uncertainty
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  • Because one day it's going to be so obvious that no one's
  • 00:47:37.179 --> 00:47:41.116
  • Going to pat me on the back. you know what i mean?
  • 00:47:41.116 --> 00:47:43.285
  • There won't be, like, eternal rewards for it, because it'll
  • 00:47:43.285 --> 00:47:46.455
  • Be as clear as day.
  • 00:47:46.455 --> 00:47:48.190
  • But right now, it's my chance.
  • 00:47:48.190 --> 00:47:50.559
  • Yeah. right.
  • 00:47:50.559 --> 00:47:51.794
  • And i think when we frame it that way, you know, like you
  • 00:47:51.794 --> 00:47:54.830
  • Talked about when it came to kingdom perspective, it makes
  • 00:47:54.830 --> 00:47:58.667
  • You realize what we're all really talking about here is
  • 00:47:58.667 --> 00:48:01.870
  • Just that hope of eternity. that hope which--
  • 00:48:01.870 --> 00:48:04.974
  • That's why the angels can look down and be in awe.
  • 00:48:04.974 --> 00:48:07.843
  • That man, they don't even see you and they're worshiping and
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  • They've got this faith.
  • 00:48:11.714 --> 00:48:13.515
  • You know, we get to see you in all your glory, but they get to
  • 00:48:13.515 --> 00:48:17.586
  • Worship you through their faith in knowing who you are through
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  • The spirit and having you on the inside of them,
  • 00:48:21.523 --> 00:48:24.626
  • You know? yeah.
  • 00:48:24.626 --> 00:48:25.828
  • Charles stanley always says god can't use a man
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  • Greatly until he's been broken. that's right.
  • 00:48:28.430 --> 00:48:30.699
  • And so we think about that when we look at all of our lives
  • 00:48:30.699 --> 00:48:33.335
  • That bad, hard things have happened to all of us,
  • 00:48:33.335 --> 00:48:36.372
  • And yet there's there's something that we have
  • 00:48:36.372 --> 00:48:38.474
  • Experienced with jesus that i would have never
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  • Experienced in my pain.
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  • And he's been so kind.
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  • And i've we've experienced a treasure that could have only
  • 00:48:43.545 --> 00:48:46.915
  • Come through the hard. yes.
  • 00:48:46.915 --> 00:48:48.550
  • And it's just a breaking down kind of. you know, paul talks
  • 00:48:48.550 --> 00:48:51.720
  • About running the race, right?
  • 00:48:51.720 --> 00:48:53.689
  • If you're an athlete, it's just a breaking down of your body
  • 00:48:53.689 --> 00:48:56.558
  • And then a rebuilding of it, breaking it down and rebuilding
  • 00:48:56.558 --> 00:48:59.661
  • It time and time again until you have the resilience and you
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  • Have the strength and you have the stamina.
  • 00:49:02.865 --> 00:49:06.235
  • And if we look at it as, oh, that exhausts me, i think we're
  • 00:49:06.235 --> 00:49:10.472
  • Going to miss out on so much of that joy that you're
  • 00:49:10.472 --> 00:49:12.241
  • Talking about, right
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  • Faith, of what does it mean to run this race the way that
  • 00:49:13.509 --> 00:49:17.079
  • God has called us to run it while we're on this earth?
  • 00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:19.515
  • How do we steward the time that we're steward
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  • While we're living here?
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  • How do we continue to lean into that refining process through
  • 00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:28.390
  • The tension of joy and with suffering?
  • 00:49:28.390 --> 00:49:31.427
  • The truth is, suffering will always happen.
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  • Our world is not is not yet restored.
  • 00:49:34.163 --> 00:49:36.498
  • We're not there yet.
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  • But i just want to maybe take a little bit of time and let's
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  • Just pray over people that are watching right now and just
  • 00:49:41.103 --> 00:49:44.606
  • Wherever they might be suffering too, and that they
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  • Would receive what needs to be received.
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  • Yeah. amen.
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  • Holy father, we just thank you so much for, one, just community
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  • That we get to talk about these things and feel less alone.
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  • But, god, i just pray that you would be with whoever's
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  • Watching right now as you're stirring in them this this
  • 00:50:00.189 --> 00:50:03.559
  • Feeling of being unseen or suffering alone,
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  • God, that you would give them a sense of your presence, that
  • 00:50:05.994 --> 00:50:09.131
  • You would envelop them with who you are and remind them that
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  • You actually know exactly what suffering is.
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  • You've experienced it yourself.
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  • You've died to it so that we don't have to suffer as much.
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  • So god, we come to you, we come to you with all of it, and we
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  • Confess our frustrations and our anger.
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  • And we also trust that you will restore us to the place that we
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  • Need to be, not where we were.
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  • And so we bless you and we thank you.
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  • In jesus' name we pray, amen. amen.
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