Why would God design men and women so differently? Those differences aren’t meant to divide but to shape, strengthen, and complement. When God is at the center, marriage can reflect the beauty of two becoming stronger and better together. | TBN Prayer Line: 714-731-1000
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Better Together | Your Spouse was Designed to Be Different! | Better Together Episode 1142 | February 10, 2026
- Men and women were created by god to complement each other.
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- He made us different on purpose.
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- So if you have ever wondered what is wrong with your spouse,
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- Come on. let's talk about it.
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- ♪♪
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- Our conversation today is about how you and your spouse are
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- Designed to be different, which means i want a long
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- Conversation with the lord, like you intended.
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- You intended that the two of us would be so different.
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- It reminded me, actually, a very fresh example,
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- My husband and i flew out to california this past weekend
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- And just how different we handle situations, and so on the
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- Way to the airport,
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- Um, i just had the thought, like, i rented a car, right?
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- And so, yeah, that wasn't-- that's not really comforting.
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- And so i look it up and i can't see it on there.
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- And i was like, that is so weird.
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- And my husband doesn't--
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- Kenneth has a-- he can literally
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- Handle like big like covid hits.
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- Like, i know how to bring our company through this, you know,
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- Like big things. small things are a bit of a challenge.
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- Yeah. and so--
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- But i could tell he was trying to work on it.
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- Like you could tell, the immediate was like, you know.
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- And he was like, it's okay.
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- And almost like robotic, we can figure this out.
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- And i was like, oh, yeah,
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- You know, and i'm trying to search it.
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- And he goes, we'll get into the lounge and we'll look it up
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- And it'll be fine. so we do.
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- But he can't get into the company that we normally use,
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- Which makes it easier.
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- You don't have to stop at the desk.
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- You can just go straight and get your car.
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- It's going to be a little bit more cumbersome.
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- And it's kind of like, okay, are we prepared?
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- You know, so but we have a car and we needed to have it.
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- So we get to the place, we shuttle to the rental bus area.
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- And so thus it begins because we have to wait in this line.
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- And the we're not we're not
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- Going to get any flow out of this.
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- Like, we have to put our patience cap on.
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- But it's i could just tell like, he's like the more and more
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- Questions and you know, and she was like, oh, you're
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- In the wrong line,
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- After you wait in line. you're going to have to go upstairs.
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- And right at that moment the the email clicks in and it
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- Says, you know, oh, we have your car available,
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- That was at the one that i had rented.
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- And so he was like, oh my gosh, you had actually rented a car.
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- And i was like, that's so weird.
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- It didn't come up.
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- And i said-- you know,
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- And he was in the second line and i said, why don't we
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- Just go downstairs now?
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- Being flexible and adaptable, i thrive in this place.
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- Like i'm like, oh, this is okay.
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- And so, like, he's upstairs.
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- I was like, i'm gonna go
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- Downstairs and see if we can cancel.
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- And, you know, and so then we meet in the middle.
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- The other car rental isn't there.
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- We're going to have to uber to it, y'all, instead of going--
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- Y'all, when i say-- i have created all this.
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- So this is me.
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- I look at him and i go, you know what, let's act like it's
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- A date night and we're in an escape room.
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- Oh.
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- And he looked at me and i was like, this is hilarious.
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- Like, first of all, we missed the first clue.
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- I didn't book a car.
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- I mean, clearly i'm way more responsible than this.
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- Like we blew right past that one. you know, like, i'm just
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- Totally laughing and making this fun.
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- I'm getting the uber, y'all.
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- My phone dies when i get the uber.
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- And he's like, he's like, how are we going to know?
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- And i was like, let's just walk.
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- Maybe one of these cars is ours.
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- You know, i'm like, come on, jesus, it's one of ours.
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- And i was like, hey, who are you picking up?
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- And the guy's like, he holds up the phone and it's my name.
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- And i'm like, it's our uber.
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- And i'm having so much fun with this.
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- And he is melting inside.
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- He's like, did you see the five
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- Guys that looked shady in the car?
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- Did you see that?
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- You know, and i was like, oh babe, you could add a lot
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- More fun with this.
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- And the realities of our differences that are supposed
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- To be there to actually sharpen each other can actually end up
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- Feeling like sometimes they wound us.
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- You know, when you use your swords in the wrong way.
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- Yes.
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- What two people you know are exactly alike?
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- None. so why do you expect your spouse to be just like you?
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- I did, so i know a lot of people do.
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- Well, if you are going to marry someone that's just like you,
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- Then why would you need them?
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- Because you already have you.
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- So why not embrace the differences the way that
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- God created them?
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- When you marry them, you create--
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- You married someone who is another expression of
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- Who the father is.
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- So receive that, embrace that and enjoy unpacking who
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- Your spouse happens to be.
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- I know that it will come up a
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- Lot this week as we talk about marriage
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- Are these differences.
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- And in their design they're supposed to sharpen us, but
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- Sometimes we use our swords wrong.
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- And i don't know if you've ever experienced that or how that's
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- Played out in your marriage.
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- You know, it's these places,
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- It's hard.
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- It's hard to know what you're wielding in your own
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- Difference, and it's hard to come up against something
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- Different than yours.
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- What does that look like in your marriage?
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- Well, for me, it's probably like yours when i am laughing,
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- Wanting to play and have fun in the moment,
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- It is not funny for him at all.
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- It's like you did not think this thing through.
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- You know, i don't know why you missed this and you didn't do
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- This or whatever.
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- I remember when he was in the hospital in 2014.
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- Whole story--
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- Long story short, thank god he got better,
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- But he was paralyzed from his neck down.
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- So he was in the bed and he didn't want any of the
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- Nurses to help.
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- I was the one that would help get him out of the bed, put him
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- In the hoyer lift
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- When they were out doing whatever. put him in the lift,
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- Pick him up, put him in the chair, and i would go and get
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- Crab legs because crab legs was his favorite thing.
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- Got crab legs.
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- I said, okay, we're going to make this same thing.
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- Let's make this a date night.
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- Put a towel over top of the little table, pulled him up to
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- It, and i'm feeding him the crab legs and he's looking
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- Like, this is not fun to me.
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- I just want to get out of here.
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- I'm like, no, we're going to
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- Laugh and we are going to have fun.
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- So i think, like you said, if you use it wrong,
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- It can work against you.
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- But for me, in that moment, i was like determined to not
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- Allow him to soak in that, to to sit in that feeling like,
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- Yeah, despair, this like hopelessness state like, no,
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- Because this is not a permanent situation.
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- So we're going to have fun.
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- So we're going to make some great memories out of this.
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- So we have stories and your testimony will be amazing
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- Instead of you laid in the bed, you got up and you got better,
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- You know, you have have a whole lot of stories in between.
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- And so i think i had to learn how to use our differences to
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- Work for us and not against us.
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- I like that, like you said, you gave the scripture of how
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- Iron sharpens iron.
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- That's how it's supposed to be.
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- But sometimes you start sharpening each other and you
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- Realize that the other person just may be plastic because
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- They could be going back to their childhood traumas, you
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- Know, and you thinking, hey, i'm just trying to make you
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- Better with these differences.
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- It's like, no, your difference is really--
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- There's a story behind the story.
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- Yeah, always.
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- It was interesting, but we had to, um, learn our differences
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- So we could use them to really work for us.
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- And i think that's so important.
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- There's gifts that each one of us have.
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- And so i am better standing in front of someone at a hotel
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- Or at an airline. i'm better.
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- So it's gotten to where, you go sit down.
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- Oh, that's-- oh.
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- I'll take care of this.
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- You just go sit and relax.
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- I've got this because it's just not his--
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- It's not his gift to do that.
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- And so things go better.
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- So he just hangs back now,
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- You know, and i take care of things.
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- And then i think if we take situations like that and
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- Instead of getting mad at each other, just like i do this
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- Better, you do that better.
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- And i think learning those and covering each other on that and
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- Just say, i've got you on this.
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- He does that for me all the time.
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- You know, don't worry about that.
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- I've got you on this.
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- Okay. seriously, it took me a long time to not see our
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- Differences as opposition versus true gifts of design,
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- Um, because i think that, um, the reality that i was
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- Looking at was i just
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- I want you to agree with me.
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- Agree with me so it validates my thinking.
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- And that really came from a place of insecurity.
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- And, um, once you begin seeing that you want somebody that's
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- Different, you don't want the same,
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- You start actually being able to be sharpened by that person.
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- Iron sharpens iron as one man sharpens another, and scripture
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- Talks about that.
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- But that means that it's going to have to rub.
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- You're going to have to
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- Actually come in contact with that.
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- And if i keep trying to force my spouse to be the same as me,
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- It's not going to sharpen.
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- And so i want, i want him to raise up his sword.
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- I want us to be able to work things out.
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- Um, even if it's through
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- Conflict, most of the time it is,
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- Um, and being able to work through our differences so that
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- We can make each other better.
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- But we think that when you marry someone, you have to
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- Think the same way.
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- And you have to do things the same way.
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- And that's so far from the truth.
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- Mike tells me all the time, you think nothing like me.
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- And i'm like, good. you're welcome.
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- Then we'd both be wrong.
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- The first year of our marriage, kenneth would say-- i would talk
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- Out what i was doing,
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- And he was like, what were you thinking?
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- Yeah. and i was like, that's a horrible question.
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- I was like, first of all, i was thinking. like, if there's
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- Anything, i'm going to overthink it.
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- I've got like 16 different thoughts that i.
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- You know, planned out and how i thought that, you know, well,
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- It shouldn't go this way or it shouldn't go that way.
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- And i think it's neat when we say that we were designed
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- To be different,
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- Meaning it's pointing back to a designer.
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- Yes. and, god, you intended
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- Something really different in me,
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- And you brought us together. yeah.
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- It's interesting because it's in those differences
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- You're attracted, and it's the
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- Very thing that often we fight against.
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- But what you were saying, laurie, of taking the time to
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- Understand those differences and to see them not as gifts
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- Only, but also as, as as tools to help sharpen me.
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- Yeah. let's be honest.
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- Maybe we're not even seeing them as gifts.
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- You know, that from our our past and from our pain when you
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- Don't immediately agree with me,
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- Let's be honest.
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- I'm thinking something's wrong with me or
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- Something's wrong with you.
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- And it's much easier to make it wrong with you.
- 00:11:03.152 --> 00:11:05.387
- So we're never going to blame ourselves first.
- 00:11:05.387 --> 00:11:07.690
- I'm going to choose you.
- 00:11:07.690 --> 00:11:08.758
- You know, you're--
- 00:11:08.758 --> 00:11:10.459
- That's all the way from the
- 00:11:10.459 --> 00:11:11.393
- Garden, like she did it, you know?
- 00:11:11.393 --> 00:11:13.562
- So it's somebody else.
- 00:11:13.562 --> 00:11:15.030
- But can i pull back?
- 00:11:15.030 --> 00:11:16.465
- God, what do you want to show me in this?
- 00:11:16.465 --> 00:11:18.567
- Can i go back to those--
- 00:11:18.567 --> 00:11:20.302
- You know, because because kenneth and i were laughing
- 00:11:20.302 --> 00:11:22.571
- About the conversation, i was
- 00:11:22.571 --> 00:11:24.473
- Like, i thought it was really fun.
- 00:11:24.473 --> 00:11:25.908
- He goes, i did not find that fun.
- 00:11:25.908 --> 00:11:27.643
- And i was like, i know.
- 00:11:27.643 --> 00:11:28.978
- And i was like, but it's a place that you need to be
- 00:11:28.978 --> 00:11:30.780
- Able to let go of that.
- 00:11:30.780 --> 00:11:32.381
- There wasn't-- we weren't late for anything.
- 00:11:32.381 --> 00:11:34.383
- We were like, just pull back.
- 00:11:34.383 --> 00:11:35.684
- Like wasting an emotion and intensity that can definitely
- 00:11:35.684 --> 00:11:38.921
- Be reserved for some other time, you know?
- 00:11:38.921 --> 00:11:41.223
- But he also gave me his perspective.
- 00:11:41.223 --> 00:11:43.025
- He was like ireni, it was dark.
- 00:11:43.025 --> 00:11:44.860
- And, you know, here i'm thinking like, i've got you
- 00:11:44.860 --> 00:11:47.163
- On the backside of this building, you know. like,
- 00:11:47.163 --> 00:11:49.031
- He wants to take--
- 00:11:49.031 --> 00:11:50.065
- Protection. and so just learning those different
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- Things, okay,
- 00:11:52.701 --> 00:11:53.836
- What are some things we can do different?
- 00:11:53.836 --> 00:11:55.437
- But a lot of times we don't go back and learn from those
- 00:11:55.437 --> 00:11:59.441
- Spaces, you know, and how we handle it different. like, well,
- 00:11:59.441 --> 00:12:03.145
- What did you need in that moment?
- 00:12:03.145 --> 00:12:05.247
- That's right.
- 00:12:05.247 --> 00:12:06.282
- Like asking that question, what did you need?
- 00:12:06.282 --> 00:12:08.083
- And most often it's a really hard question to ask.
- 00:12:08.083 --> 00:12:10.653
- Gosh, what did i need?
- 00:12:10.653 --> 00:12:12.188
- You know, what--
- 00:12:12.188 --> 00:12:13.189
- How would i do that different?
- 00:12:13.189 --> 00:12:14.490
- Do we go back and reflect so that we can sharpen each other?
- 00:12:14.490 --> 00:12:18.127
- Or do we just put our swords away and just wait until the
- 00:12:18.127 --> 00:12:20.663
- Next, you know, battle?
- 00:12:20.663 --> 00:12:23.532
- I think the culture we're living in and the days we're
- 00:12:23.532 --> 00:12:25.935
- Living in is really important to understand that god has
- 00:12:25.935 --> 00:12:28.771
- Designed us very differently.
- 00:12:28.771 --> 00:12:30.406
- When god made adam and then god made eve, they're very
- 00:12:30.406 --> 00:12:34.043
- Different, different strengths, you know, different things
- 00:12:34.043 --> 00:12:36.545
- They're amazing at.
- 00:12:36.545 --> 00:12:37.947
- And i had to really learn that because i thought-- like, i
- 00:12:37.947 --> 00:12:40.950
- Assumed because some of my girlfriends could tell if i
- 00:12:40.950 --> 00:12:43.853
- Wasn't feeling great or if i was having a bad day,
- 00:12:43.853 --> 00:12:46.222
- I just assumed that barry would be able to read exactly the
- 00:12:46.222 --> 00:12:48.924
- Same signs and discovered, you know what?
- 00:12:48.924 --> 00:12:50.960
- That's not necessarily true.
- 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:52.761
- So communication is absolutely key. when you can learn to speak
- 00:12:52.761 --> 00:12:57.166
- The truth to one another as
- 00:12:57.166 --> 00:12:58.601
- Early as possible, it's a good thing.
- 00:12:58.601 --> 00:13:01.637
- Then you add children into the mix and you work out that you
- 00:13:01.637 --> 00:13:05.474
- Do that really, really differently.
- 00:13:05.474 --> 00:13:08.177
- I remember-- we only have one son.
- 00:13:08.177 --> 00:13:10.179
- He's 28, and he's always been really hard on himself.
- 00:13:10.179 --> 00:13:14.550
- He's a bit of a perfectionist, and i've spent so much time
- 00:13:14.550 --> 00:13:17.653
- Trying to get him to lighten up,
- 00:13:17.653 --> 00:13:18.754
- But barry is a very similar mindset.
- 00:13:18.754 --> 00:13:20.723
- He likes things to be a certain way.
- 00:13:20.723 --> 00:13:22.191
- And so i felt as christian was growing up through school, that
- 00:13:22.191 --> 00:13:25.094
- Barry pushed him to to do better and to be better
- 00:13:25.094 --> 00:13:28.430
- And to do things.
- 00:13:28.430 --> 00:13:29.832
- And if he'd said he was going to do something to stick with
- 00:13:29.832 --> 00:13:31.834
- It, and my thing was more like, well, you know, he doesn't
- 00:13:31.834 --> 00:13:35.671
- Have to do that.
- 00:13:35.671 --> 00:13:36.939
- I mean, i kind of wanted to kind of soften the blow, and i
- 00:13:36.939 --> 00:13:39.842
- Thought i was helping and apparently i was not helping at
- 00:13:39.842 --> 00:13:43.212
- All, because at one point when we got into some argument about
- 00:13:43.212 --> 00:13:46.415
- Something, the three of us, i said, christian, would it help
- 00:13:46.415 --> 00:13:49.218
- You to have a talk with a counselor outside?
- 00:13:49.218 --> 00:13:52.288
- Because he's an only child.
- 00:13:52.288 --> 00:13:53.522
- And he said, actually, that would be great.
- 00:13:53.522 --> 00:13:55.658
- So i found this great guy.
- 00:13:55.658 --> 00:13:56.859
- He's a former football coach, counselor.
- 00:13:56.859 --> 00:13:58.861
- And i said, let me come into the first two minutes of the
- 00:13:58.861 --> 00:14:01.697
- First session because i wanted to say to christian and the
- 00:14:01.697 --> 00:14:05.000
- Councilor, but more to christian,
- 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:06.735
- In here this is your space.
- 00:14:06.735 --> 00:14:08.637
- You get to say whatever is true for you.
- 00:14:08.637 --> 00:14:10.906
- You get to say, my mother's an idiot.
- 00:14:10.906 --> 00:14:12.374
- You get to say, my dad's driving me bonkers.
- 00:14:12.374 --> 00:14:14.276
- You don't have to protect us.
- 00:14:14.276 --> 00:14:16.078
- And so he went for maybe 4 or 5 times and loved it.
- 00:14:16.078 --> 00:14:18.647
- And on the final time he said, mom and dad, i'd like you both
- 00:14:18.647 --> 00:14:21.283
- To come in to this session with me.
- 00:14:21.283 --> 00:14:23.285
- And we were like, yeah, and i'm waiting for christian to say,
- 00:14:23.285 --> 00:14:27.156
- Mom, you're just amazing, you know?
- 00:14:27.156 --> 00:14:29.158
- And you help in every possible way.
- 00:14:29.158 --> 00:14:31.660
- And you say to barry, and you make my life so much more
- 00:14:31.660 --> 00:14:35.397
- Difficult, and if you could be more like my mother--
- 00:14:35.397 --> 00:14:38.400
- So i said, christian, how could
- 00:14:38.400 --> 00:14:41.403
- I shift to make life better for you?
- 00:14:41.403 --> 00:14:43.572
- Thinking he'd just skip over it.
- 00:14:43.572 --> 00:14:45.374
- And he was like, well, actually, mom, i don't want
- 00:14:45.374 --> 00:14:47.476
- To hurt your feelings.
- 00:14:47.476 --> 00:14:48.844
- And i said, christian, you have
- 00:14:48.844 --> 00:14:50.212
- Complete permission to hurt my feelings.
- 00:14:50.212 --> 00:14:52.581
- And he said, well, mom, dad and i love each other.
- 00:14:52.581 --> 00:14:55.484
- You know, we do get into it
- 00:14:55.484 --> 00:14:56.685
- Sometimes, but i know dad loves me.
- 00:14:56.685 --> 00:14:58.854
- And you get in the middle and you try to make it better and
- 00:14:58.854 --> 00:15:01.590
- Actually just turns the heat up.
- 00:15:01.590 --> 00:15:02.992
- It turns the temperature up.
- 00:15:02.992 --> 00:15:04.793
- And i was like, i totally got that.
- 00:15:04.793 --> 00:15:07.529
- You know, the very thing that i think i'm doing because this is
- 00:15:07.529 --> 00:15:09.631
- Who i am and this will help, was actually making it much
- 00:15:09.631 --> 00:15:12.368
- Worse. to be able to step back and let a father have his
- 00:15:12.368 --> 00:15:15.637
- Relationship with his son,
- 00:15:15.637 --> 00:15:17.072
- That might not be the way i would do things, but they could
- 00:15:17.072 --> 00:15:19.875
- Work that through themselves.
- 00:15:19.875 --> 00:15:21.510
- I learned a lot from that session.
- 00:15:21.510 --> 00:15:23.545
- It's so powerful.
- 00:15:23.545 --> 00:15:24.279
- It's about being a team.
- 00:15:24.279 --> 00:15:25.748
- You know, when you're on a sports team or you're hiring
- 00:15:25.748 --> 00:15:28.917
- Employees, you're always looking for someone that's
- 00:15:28.917 --> 00:15:31.920
- Going to fill the need that's going to be different than you.
- 00:15:31.920 --> 00:15:34.556
- You know, i want to hire to my weaknesses.
- 00:15:34.556 --> 00:15:36.291
- I want someone to be able to handle that scope.
- 00:15:36.291 --> 00:15:38.727
- And barry was able to handle something that he was
- 00:15:38.727 --> 00:15:42.031
- Better fit for. yeah.
- 00:15:42.031 --> 00:15:44.366
- You know, being a parent to a newborn, to children in
- 00:15:44.366 --> 00:15:47.770
- General, it's a beautiful gift from god.
- 00:15:47.770 --> 00:15:50.406
- It's the greatest thing that i think i've ever experienced.
- 00:15:50.406 --> 00:15:54.143
- Um, sometimes parenting with the other parent can
- 00:15:54.143 --> 00:15:56.645
- Sometimes be a challenge.
- 00:15:56.645 --> 00:15:58.147
- Um, because we do come from totally different families.
- 00:15:58.147 --> 00:16:01.316
- We families.
- 00:16:01.316 --> 00:16:02.184
- We come from different backgrounds.
- 00:16:02.184 --> 00:16:03.485
- I've got the perfect mom, and so i want to raise my kid kind
- 00:16:03.485 --> 00:16:07.990
- Of the way my mom did things for me.
- 00:16:07.990 --> 00:16:10.492
- And and matt was different in
- 00:16:10.492 --> 00:16:14.496
- Many aspects, the way he was raised.
- 00:16:14.496 --> 00:16:16.999
- Um, so those challenges, those, um, maybe things that you don't
- 00:16:16.999 --> 00:16:22.738
- Agree on, you guys have to come together.
- 00:16:22.738 --> 00:16:25.441
- You guys have to have grace for each other.
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- I told my husband, we met in high school that i was, you
- 00:16:56.772 --> 00:16:59.708
- Know, i wasn't going to stay at home.
- 00:16:59.708 --> 00:17:00.876
- I don't know if you're looking for that kind of woman.
- 00:17:00.876 --> 00:17:02.444
- That's not who i was.
- 00:17:02.444 --> 00:17:03.445
- You know, be careful what you vow
- 00:17:03.445 --> 00:17:04.580
- Because i stayed at home.
- 00:17:04.580 --> 00:17:06.482
- And that's the way it worked out for us.
- 00:17:06.482 --> 00:17:08.083
- That's just how it occurred.
- 00:17:08.083 --> 00:17:09.785
- And it ended up being something i wanted to do.
- 00:17:09.785 --> 00:17:11.520
- I didn't realize that we were able to do it, but, um, what
- 00:17:11.520 --> 00:17:14.790
- Was so interesting is i remember, um, being able to say,
- 00:17:14.790 --> 00:17:18.327
- I made some statements about, man, i, i was doing something
- 00:17:18.327 --> 00:17:21.263
- And i was like, i just love being domestic.
- 00:17:21.263 --> 00:17:23.465
- And i remember he said, yeah, me too.
- 00:17:23.465 --> 00:17:25.801
- And i paused and i was like, what do you mean?
- 00:17:25.801 --> 00:17:28.003
- And he was like, yeah, well, going to work is just as
- 00:17:28.003 --> 00:17:30.906
- Domestic as doing the things around here.
- 00:17:30.906 --> 00:17:32.975
- And i didn't realize that there are roles and responsibilities
- 00:17:32.975 --> 00:17:36.044
- That are also put on men, um, as well as women.
- 00:17:36.044 --> 00:17:39.648
- And it can look different, the roles that we play, who takes
- 00:17:39.648 --> 00:17:42.184
- Out the trash, who does the
- 00:17:42.184 --> 00:17:43.385
- Cooking, who goes to work, who doesn't.
- 00:17:43.385 --> 00:17:45.521
- Um, but those are things that i
- 00:17:45.521 --> 00:17:47.022
- Just never expected, um, seeing.
- 00:17:47.022 --> 00:17:49.992
- And that god really opened my eyes that there are things that
- 00:17:49.992 --> 00:17:52.194
- We both, um, are walking through, um, that we both carry
- 00:17:52.194 --> 00:17:55.931
- That can both be hard and maybe we don't 100% love, but we're
- 00:17:55.931 --> 00:18:00.402
- Doing it so that we get better
- 00:18:00.402 --> 00:18:01.770
- And we can do something together.
- 00:18:01.770 --> 00:18:03.572
- That just opened up my eyes to wanting to be closer, um, and
- 00:18:03.572 --> 00:18:07.576
- To see his perspective more.
- 00:18:07.576 --> 00:18:09.578
- And so i don't know about you, but when i, i mean, i was young
- 00:18:13.215 --> 00:18:15.851
- When i got married, but i, you know, this is controversial,
- 00:18:15.851 --> 00:18:19.254
- But i had a love list.
- 00:18:19.254 --> 00:18:20.789
- I had a list of what i wanted in a spouse.
- 00:18:20.789 --> 00:18:23.625
- And i remember writing all kinds of things, but a lot of
- 00:18:23.625 --> 00:18:26.328
- What was on the list weren't things that i had.
- 00:18:26.328 --> 00:18:30.098
- They weren't qualities i exhibited.
- 00:18:30.098 --> 00:18:32.401
- They're things that i wanted or longed for or because i was
- 00:18:32.401 --> 00:18:35.470
- Thinking honestly, at 18-- i think i lost my dad when i was
- 00:18:35.470 --> 00:18:38.640
- 16, so i, i took life very seriously.
- 00:18:38.640 --> 00:18:40.909
- I'm like, i got to be strategic.
- 00:18:40.909 --> 00:18:43.111
- And this was a strategic moment.
- 00:18:43.111 --> 00:18:44.613
- Not all of my moments are strategic, but i remember
- 00:18:44.613 --> 00:18:47.649
- Thinking, i want a partner in life that will, that we
- 00:18:47.649 --> 00:18:50.652
- Can be a team together.
- 00:18:50.652 --> 00:18:53.755
- And while that doesn't make it easy in marriage at first as
- 00:18:53.755 --> 00:18:57.292
- You're adapting.
- 00:18:57.292 --> 00:18:58.493
- When i think about how far we've come in 32 years, i'm
- 00:18:58.493 --> 00:19:01.330
- Like, i chose right, and he chose right.
- 00:19:01.330 --> 00:19:04.700
- And we'll laugh.
- 00:19:04.700 --> 00:19:05.968
- I'll say, sometimes i'm like, babe-- you know, he'll talk
- 00:19:05.968 --> 00:19:08.237
- About how much he loves me.
- 00:19:08.237 --> 00:19:08.971
- I said, babe, i love you too.
- 00:19:08.971 --> 00:19:10.138
- But you were a strategic choice
- 00:19:10.138 --> 00:19:13.075
- Or a strategic choice.
- 00:19:13.075 --> 00:19:14.142
- I knew he'd be a great father.
- 00:19:14.142 --> 00:19:15.877
- He had the stability.
- 00:19:15.877 --> 00:19:16.912
- He had came from a great stable ministry family.
- 00:19:16.912 --> 00:19:20.249
- He's low maintenance.
- 00:19:20.249 --> 00:19:21.883
- Um, he's quiet, strategic thinker.
- 00:19:21.883 --> 00:19:25.787
- And i'm like, i need that.
- 00:19:25.787 --> 00:19:26.989
- I need that for my crazy life, my crazy emotions.
- 00:19:26.989 --> 00:19:29.725
- And so i think the humbling part of my raising kids was,
- 00:19:29.725 --> 00:19:35.497
- Maybe he can do this better.
- 00:19:35.497 --> 00:19:37.633
- Maybe-- maybe--
- 00:19:37.633 --> 00:19:39.901
- Well, i think i could have done that.
- 00:19:39.901 --> 00:19:41.436
- You know what?
- 00:19:41.436 --> 00:19:42.704
- They are better off that he took the lead in that moment
- 00:19:42.704 --> 00:19:44.906
- Or in that season.
- 00:19:44.906 --> 00:19:46.074
- So i'm very grateful for differences.
- 00:19:46.074 --> 00:19:48.010
- As much as we-- you know, we're very verbal.
- 00:19:48.010 --> 00:19:50.178
- We really spar a lot.
- 00:19:50.178 --> 00:19:52.147
- And people i think were kind of shocked about that when
- 00:19:52.147 --> 00:19:53.815
- We were early married.
- 00:19:53.815 --> 00:19:55.017
- I'm like, you know what?
- 00:19:55.017 --> 00:19:56.184
- We want to win. we want to win.
- 00:19:56.184 --> 00:19:58.553
- It's like fighting for it's worth.
- 00:19:58.553 --> 00:19:59.821
- We want to win at life, at love, and of mission.
- 00:19:59.821 --> 00:20:03.191
- Yeah.
- 00:20:03.191 --> 00:20:04.026
- And so we're on mission together.
- 00:20:04.026 --> 00:20:05.761
- And i need him.
- 00:20:05.761 --> 00:20:07.029
- I need him for my blind spots. yeah.
- 00:20:07.029 --> 00:20:09.531
- I need him. i need my coach.
- 00:20:09.531 --> 00:20:11.933
- So in marriage, when you come together, different families,
- 00:20:11.933 --> 00:20:14.569
- Different personalities, different genders, different
- 00:20:14.569 --> 00:20:17.773
- Upbringings, we bring a lot of different to the table.
- 00:20:17.773 --> 00:20:21.576
- And you know what?
- 00:20:21.576 --> 00:20:22.311
- That's okay.
- 00:20:22.311 --> 00:20:23.578
- In fact, it's actually a win because together you can create
- 00:20:23.578 --> 00:20:25.947
- Something beautiful together and your world will expand.
- 00:20:25.947 --> 00:20:29.951
- You know, i've learned so much being married to my husband who
- 00:20:29.951 --> 00:20:32.154
- Grew up on the mission field.
- 00:20:32.154 --> 00:20:33.388
- He has a totally different worldview than i do, and he has
- 00:20:33.388 --> 00:20:36.391
- Enriched and enhanced my life also.
- 00:20:36.391 --> 00:20:38.460
- He's an adventurer.
- 00:20:38.460 --> 00:20:39.494
- He is crazy.
- 00:20:39.494 --> 00:20:41.096
- He's a risk taker.
- 00:20:41.096 --> 00:20:42.397
- I'm not. i'm cautious.
- 00:20:42.397 --> 00:20:43.799
- I'm maybe more risk taking socially, but i don't love
- 00:20:43.799 --> 00:20:47.936
- To hurt my body.
- 00:20:47.936 --> 00:20:49.171
- I don't like to do crazy things.
- 00:20:49.171 --> 00:20:50.706
- But you know what?
- 00:20:50.706 --> 00:20:51.440
- His differences enhance my life.
- 00:20:51.440 --> 00:20:53.408
- And you know what?
- 00:20:53.408 --> 00:20:54.409
- We actually see the world in
- 00:20:54.409 --> 00:20:55.544
- Different ways, and that's okay.
- 00:20:55.544 --> 00:20:57.346
- In fact, i don't have to control him.
- 00:20:57.346 --> 00:20:59.548
- He doesn't have to control me.
- 00:20:59.548 --> 00:21:01.516
- Now, we're aligned in what matters when it comes to our
- 00:21:01.516 --> 00:21:04.019
- Relationship with god, putting him first, and how we feel
- 00:21:04.019 --> 00:21:07.389
- About living our life according to biblical values.
- 00:21:07.389 --> 00:21:10.258
- But the other things, sometimes they're just not essential.
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- So get used to being different and get used to accepting your
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- Differences with love, peace, and acceptance and joy.
- 00:21:17.032 --> 00:21:20.769
- Because you know what?
- 00:21:20.769 --> 00:21:22.037
- They're the best thing that's happened to you.
- 00:21:22.037 --> 00:21:24.373
- The thing i love about what you said about being a team was
- 00:21:24.373 --> 00:21:26.942
- Just last week,
- 00:21:26.942 --> 00:21:28.477
- Christian came over to have dinner with us, and that was
- 00:21:28.477 --> 00:21:31.513
- The whole focus of the conversation.
- 00:21:31.513 --> 00:21:33.849
- He said, i just want to thank you guys for the way that
- 00:21:33.849 --> 00:21:36.418
- You're a team, that i don't think it's i have to do what's
- 00:21:36.418 --> 00:21:38.954
- Right for you or you, but that we're a team together.
- 00:21:38.954 --> 00:21:42.157
- And i mean, after he left, barry and i sat and talked for
- 00:21:42.157 --> 00:21:44.926
- A long time because it was such a god thing.
- 00:21:44.926 --> 00:21:48.096
- Yeah, because when i think back to the early years of our
- 00:21:48.096 --> 00:21:50.832
- Marriage, there would be what i thought, and then there would
- 00:21:50.832 --> 00:21:52.434
- Be what barry thought.
- 00:21:52.434 --> 00:21:53.902
- But the fact that christian, and he's a clinical psychologist,
- 00:21:53.902 --> 00:21:56.605
- The fact that he was able to say, this brings me so much
- 00:21:56.605 --> 00:21:58.974
- Peace and comfort knowing that that we were a team and that
- 00:21:58.974 --> 00:22:02.177
- You do things together.
- 00:22:02.177 --> 00:22:03.745
- And that's to me, that's the work of the holy spirit and of
- 00:22:03.745 --> 00:22:07.282
- Surrendering things, because i can think of some things in the
- 00:22:07.282 --> 00:22:10.018
- Beginning that were scary to me,
- 00:22:10.018 --> 00:22:12.120
- And it was because of barry's upbringing.
- 00:22:12.120 --> 00:22:14.556
- His mom, i loved her, but she was a very fiery redhead.
- 00:22:14.556 --> 00:22:20.195
- I'd never had anyone stand that close to my nose and share
- 00:22:20.195 --> 00:22:23.198
- Their thoughts loudly with me.
- 00:22:23.198 --> 00:22:27.202
- Plus, she had this thing of not trusting people.
- 00:22:27.202 --> 00:22:30.172
- So when barry was little, you know, maybe like, i don't know,
- 00:22:30.172 --> 00:22:33.074
- 10, 11 she would put him in the car and they'd follow his dad
- 00:22:33.074 --> 00:22:35.844
- To work because she wanted to make sure he went to work and
- 00:22:35.844 --> 00:22:38.013
- Didn't go see somebody else.
- 00:22:38.013 --> 00:22:39.948
- She would write down the miles that the car had gone and then
- 00:22:39.948 --> 00:22:42.651
- Work out when he came back, how many miles to see if, you know--
- 00:22:42.651 --> 00:22:45.954
- And so i remember in our first year of marriage, barry wanted
- 00:22:45.954 --> 00:22:49.858
- Me to record something.
- 00:22:49.858 --> 00:22:51.293
- I used to be a contemporary artist, and i honestly didn't
- 00:22:51.293 --> 00:22:54.563
- Really want to do it because i had so many other projects.
- 00:22:54.563 --> 00:22:57.466
- And he said, i think it'll be really great for you, but the
- 00:22:57.466 --> 00:22:59.501
- Only time they could see me was between like 7 and 11 in
- 00:22:59.501 --> 00:23:02.637
- The studio at night.
- 00:23:02.637 --> 00:23:03.939
- So i went and i did the thing and i came back and barry said,
- 00:23:03.939 --> 00:23:07.275
- So where were you?
- 00:23:07.275 --> 00:23:08.543
- And i was like, i was in the studio.
- 00:23:08.543 --> 00:23:10.812
- He said, but i mean, how long were you there?
- 00:23:10.812 --> 00:23:12.481
- When did you leave?
- 00:23:12.481 --> 00:23:13.415
- And i'm like, barry, you wanted me to.
- 00:23:13.415 --> 00:23:15.517
- I didn't even want to do this. this is something
- 00:23:15.517 --> 00:23:17.619
- You wanted to do. but we've learned.
- 00:23:17.619 --> 00:23:19.421
- We learned, what is this about?
- 00:23:19.421 --> 00:23:21.289
- What's happening for you right now?
- 00:23:21.289 --> 00:23:23.391
- And it was this whole thing of being in the car with his mom
- 00:23:23.391 --> 00:23:26.461
- And thinking, you know, maybe you can't trust the person.
- 00:23:26.461 --> 00:23:30.198
- And that's been a real learning curve for us over the years of,
- 00:23:30.198 --> 00:23:33.134
- You know what?
- 00:23:33.134 --> 00:23:34.436
- Now that we're not your mom and dad, you know, that we get to
- 00:23:34.436 --> 00:23:38.673
- Make our own choices and we get to be a team.
- 00:23:38.673 --> 00:23:42.077
- Yeah. i remember one time i was upset at matt for i can't
- 00:23:42.077 --> 00:23:47.916
- Hardly even remember what it was.
- 00:23:47.916 --> 00:23:49.417
- I was really talking too much.
- 00:23:49.417 --> 00:23:52.020
- Rule number one, don't ever vent to your husband about them.
- 00:23:52.020 --> 00:23:55.790
- Get a friend. that's a pro tip.
- 00:23:55.790 --> 00:23:58.059
- I like to vent about other things to my husband because
- 00:23:58.059 --> 00:24:01.263
- Then he can help guide me how to think about it.
- 00:24:01.263 --> 00:24:03.798
- But i remember him just being really quiet.
- 00:24:03.798 --> 00:24:07.369
- He was sitting on the stairs of this bathtub.
- 00:24:07.369 --> 00:24:10.171
- I can see it to this day, and i was just telling him that i
- 00:24:10.171 --> 00:24:14.376
- Don't think you should do that with your son and push him.
- 00:24:14.376 --> 00:24:19.648
- He was pushing him to do something, and i just was
- 00:24:19.648 --> 00:24:23.652
- Disagreeing with it very much.
- 00:24:23.652 --> 00:24:25.186
- And he was super quiet.
- 00:24:25.186 --> 00:24:26.821
- I remember he was putting his socks and shoes on, and he
- 00:24:26.821 --> 00:24:30.559
- Looked up at me and he said, you have no idea
- 00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:35.196
- How badly i wish my dad would have talked to me about that.
- 00:24:35.196 --> 00:24:40.835
- Wow. he said, if you don't mind, i'd like to be a father.
- 00:24:40.835 --> 00:24:43.939
- Wow. ooh.
- 00:24:43.939 --> 00:24:46.675
- And i'm telling you, i've never forgotten those words.
- 00:24:46.675 --> 00:24:50.312
- And i think sometimes we harp so much on our husbands or our
- 00:24:50.312 --> 00:24:55.016
- Wives of not doing properly the way we think should be done.
- 00:24:55.016 --> 00:24:59.721
- And i think in children, we have very different roles.
- 00:24:59.721 --> 00:25:03.124
- Yeah.
- 00:25:03.124 --> 00:25:03.892
- From the time they were born,
- 00:25:03.892 --> 00:25:05.961
- We've got very different roles as moms and dads.
- 00:25:05.961 --> 00:25:09.431
- And he said, i would have given anything if my dad would have
- 00:25:09.431 --> 00:25:13.001
- Spoken, or my mom would have spoken into my life
- 00:25:13.001 --> 00:25:15.904
- At this age about that.
- 00:25:15.904 --> 00:25:17.973
- And he said, if you don't mind, i'd like to be a dad to him.
- 00:25:17.973 --> 00:25:22.110
- And i'm telling you, i stepped back and i was like going,
- 00:25:22.110 --> 00:25:26.348
- I am so sorry.
- 00:25:26.348 --> 00:25:29.184
- You know, and you, you father
- 00:25:29.184 --> 00:25:32.821
- The way god leads you to father
- 00:25:32.821 --> 00:25:35.624
- Because i trust you,
- 00:25:35.624 --> 00:25:37.459
- Because he hears from the lord, too.
- 00:25:37.459 --> 00:25:39.661
- You know, and he doesn't have to do everything i-- because he's
- 00:25:39.661 --> 00:25:43.198
- Not called to be their mother.
- 00:25:43.198 --> 00:25:45.634
- He's called to be their dad. right.
- 00:25:45.634 --> 00:25:47.402
- And i think sometimes we just make it really hard
- 00:25:47.402 --> 00:25:51.206
- Because we don't agree.
- 00:25:51.206 --> 00:25:52.340
- And i don't think we always have to agree on things.
- 00:25:52.340 --> 00:25:55.310
- And you learn that
- 00:25:55.310 --> 00:25:57.212
- And the quicker we get it, the better, of course.
- 00:25:57.212 --> 00:25:59.881
- But you learn to to step back.
- 00:25:59.881 --> 00:26:03.718
- And i trust matt.
- 00:26:03.718 --> 00:26:06.588
- I trust the holy spirit in my husband to lead our family and
- 00:26:06.588 --> 00:26:11.359
- My boys the way that he feels led to do that.
- 00:26:11.359 --> 00:26:16.164
- And we need to step back
- 00:26:16.164 --> 00:26:17.365
- Sometimes and actually trust god.
- 00:26:17.365 --> 00:26:19.968
- And if you have a problem, go to the lord with it.
- 00:26:19.968 --> 00:26:23.538
- Go to the lord in prayer with it, and god either changes them
- 00:26:23.538 --> 00:26:27.475
- Or it changes me.
- 00:26:27.475 --> 00:26:28.977
- And then i just get good with it because i'm trusting the
- 00:26:28.977 --> 00:26:32.080
- Lord because he is in control.
- 00:26:32.080 --> 00:26:35.150
- Exactly. and and we just have to--
- 00:26:35.150 --> 00:26:38.386
- And be okay with it.
- 00:26:38.386 --> 00:26:39.721
- Be okay with that. yeah.
- 00:26:39.721 --> 00:26:42.290
- Trust is so important in marriage, and you're not always
- 00:26:42.290 --> 00:26:45.293
- Going to trust your partner.
- 00:26:45.293 --> 00:26:46.294
- Maybe they've let you down.
- 00:26:46.294 --> 00:26:48.063
- Maybe you've let them down.
- 00:26:48.063 --> 00:26:49.464
- That happens.
- 00:26:49.464 --> 00:26:50.732
- We're not perfect people, but what we can do is trust god.
- 00:26:50.732 --> 00:26:54.202
- And so my question for you is,
- 00:26:54.202 --> 00:26:55.470
- Do you trust god with your spouse?
- 00:26:55.470 --> 00:26:58.273
- If you are learning to submit and you don't agree with a
- 00:26:58.273 --> 00:27:02.310
- Situation if it's not illegal or immoral, trust god with it.
- 00:27:02.310 --> 00:27:07.716
- Trust your spouse with it.
- 00:27:07.716 --> 00:27:09.484
- Trust your partner and see what god will do through them.
- 00:27:09.484 --> 00:27:12.787
- In fact, maybe we don't know everything and maybe we
- 00:27:12.787 --> 00:27:15.857
- Aren't the experts.
- 00:27:15.857 --> 00:27:17.425
- Trust god and see what he will do.
- 00:27:17.425 --> 00:27:18.993
- It might turn out better than you could ever expect.
- 00:27:18.993 --> 00:27:21.329
- I know that's happened in my life. and again, my trust issues
- 00:27:21.329 --> 00:27:24.632
- Have to do with my own history.
- 00:27:24.632 --> 00:27:27.001
- Maybe your spouse is more trustworthy than you think.
- 00:27:27.001 --> 00:27:30.071
- Give them a shot.
- 00:27:30.071 --> 00:27:31.706
- I think about it even in business deals, i don't always
- 00:27:31.706 --> 00:27:35.410
- Agree with certain things that mike would do.
- 00:27:35.410 --> 00:27:38.646
- Of course, with the children it was like, because i'm the
- 00:27:38.646 --> 00:27:42.117
- Mother, you need to listen to me.
- 00:27:42.117 --> 00:27:43.752
- I'm telling you, that's not the best way.
- 00:27:43.752 --> 00:27:46.187
- You know, that's how mothers feel.
- 00:27:46.187 --> 00:27:48.189
- And so i've had to back up because i know i have, you
- 00:27:48.189 --> 00:27:51.893
- Know, intervened at the wrong time.
- 00:27:51.893 --> 00:27:55.196
- Um, but with business stuff, i think about us not agreeing,
- 00:27:55.196 --> 00:27:59.567
- But relinquishing my
- 00:27:59.567 --> 00:28:04.973
- Leadership to him at that time to let him lead for real.
- 00:28:04.973 --> 00:28:08.843
- Like, i submit to you,
- 00:28:08.843 --> 00:28:10.411
- So i'm going to trust that you will make the right decision
- 00:28:10.411 --> 00:28:14.215
- And obey god with whatever decision you make.
- 00:28:14.215 --> 00:28:17.619
- There have been times where i have not agreed, but i did not
- 00:28:17.619 --> 00:28:20.789
- Put my mouth on it.
- 00:28:20.789 --> 00:28:22.590
- And a lot of wives don't know how to do that.
- 00:28:22.590 --> 00:28:25.226
- They'll tell you, yeah, i don't agree.
- 00:28:25.226 --> 00:28:27.428
- And then they're going to talk about it the whole time, not
- 00:28:27.428 --> 00:28:29.597
- Realizing that if it goes
- 00:28:29.597 --> 00:28:31.699
- Wrong, it affects the whole household.
- 00:28:31.699 --> 00:28:34.235
- It affects the bottom line.
- 00:28:34.235 --> 00:28:36.070
- So what i do is, okay, god, i don't agree, but let me get in
- 00:28:36.070 --> 00:28:41.176
- Agreement with his decision.
- 00:28:41.176 --> 00:28:43.878
- That's so strong, you know.
- 00:28:43.878 --> 00:28:45.346
- It's like, let me get in agreement with this because--
- 00:28:45.346 --> 00:28:48.817
- He has a plan. he has a plan.
- 00:28:48.817 --> 00:28:50.785
- God has a plan.
- 00:28:50.785 --> 00:28:51.886
- And if he wants to trust you for this, i'm going to
- 00:28:51.886 --> 00:28:54.289
- Trust you for this.
- 00:28:54.289 --> 00:28:54.756
- It's blessible.
- 00:28:54.756 --> 00:28:55.824
- It's blessible for both of you.
- 00:28:55.824 --> 00:28:57.292
- You both extended submission and respect.
- 00:28:57.292 --> 00:29:00.595
- And i'm curious, did you experience so much love and
- 00:29:00.595 --> 00:29:03.765
- Appreciation in return?
- 00:29:03.765 --> 00:29:04.933
- What was that like for you when you were like, yes,
- 00:29:04.933 --> 00:29:08.436
- I leave it to you?
- 00:29:08.436 --> 00:29:10.305
- Oh, my husband loves it.
- 00:29:10.305 --> 00:29:12.106
- I mean, he talks about that kind of stuff to this day about
- 00:29:12.106 --> 00:29:16.511
- How i will just follow because he has so many victories in it.
- 00:29:16.511 --> 00:29:20.949
- And so it's easier now for me to just say, oh, go ahead,
- 00:29:20.949 --> 00:29:24.686
- You got it.
- 00:29:24.686 --> 00:29:25.987
- And to see them stand by each other, whether it's a victory
- 00:29:25.987 --> 00:29:29.524
- Or if it's a miss. a miss.
- 00:29:29.524 --> 00:29:31.893
- Like, because then that's the moment.
- 00:29:31.893 --> 00:29:33.361
- You know, when it's not,
- 00:29:33.361 --> 00:29:34.863
- It's like i agreed with you and it didn't turn out that way.
- 00:29:34.863 --> 00:29:37.365
- And it's like, okay, it's happened in business deals.
- 00:29:37.365 --> 00:29:40.101
- It's been in parenting, it's been in, you know, just it's
- 00:29:40.101 --> 00:29:43.271
- Life because they're human, too. right.
- 00:29:43.271 --> 00:29:45.106
- And i have never come back to say, well, if you would have
- 00:29:45.106 --> 00:29:48.009
- Listened to me
- 00:29:48.009 --> 00:29:49.010
- Yeah. you know, you should have did what--
- 00:29:49.010 --> 00:29:50.712
- I would never do that because again, it's my partner.
- 00:29:50.712 --> 00:29:53.748
- We're on the team.
- 00:29:53.748 --> 00:29:55.917
- Respect is a big deal in a relationship, especially a wife
- 00:29:55.917 --> 00:30:01.723
- Respecting a husband.
- 00:30:01.723 --> 00:30:03.825
- The bible talks about that.
- 00:30:03.825 --> 00:30:05.293
- To respect your husband, to revere him, to exalt him,
- 00:30:05.293 --> 00:30:09.397
- To esteem him.
- 00:30:09.397 --> 00:30:11.366
- He needs that.
- 00:30:11.366 --> 00:30:12.834
- The practicality of that is, how about watching your tone
- 00:30:12.834 --> 00:30:16.671
- When you say something?
- 00:30:16.671 --> 00:30:18.139
- Don't you want to be heard?
- 00:30:18.139 --> 00:30:19.908
- If you want to be heard, then watch how you say it
- 00:30:19.908 --> 00:30:23.411
- And when you say it.
- 00:30:23.411 --> 00:30:25.146
- That is a practical application of respect.
- 00:30:25.146 --> 00:30:30.151
- I was thinking about this, sheila, when you said it, about
- 00:30:30.151 --> 00:30:32.687
- Giving barry and christian space for a father, you know,
- 00:30:32.687 --> 00:30:38.026
- To to love on his son.
- 00:30:38.026 --> 00:30:39.327
- And it was the same, you know, like you were saying with matt.
- 00:30:39.327 --> 00:30:41.863
- And, you know, it's interesting because there's something in
- 00:30:41.863 --> 00:30:45.300
- That that i'm trying to fix.
- 00:30:45.300 --> 00:30:48.169
- And i even think it's my responsibility to fix.
- 00:30:48.169 --> 00:30:50.972
- Right. immediately thought of the lord goes, you know, it was
- 00:30:50.972 --> 00:30:54.242
- Even would say to us, you know, for my husband, you know,
- 00:30:54.242 --> 00:30:57.712
- Will you let me father my son?
- 00:30:57.712 --> 00:30:59.781
- Yes. like to kenneth, like
- 00:30:59.781 --> 00:31:01.449
- About him talking about kenneth.
- 00:31:01.449 --> 00:31:03.051
- Like i see it too, ireni.
- 00:31:03.051 --> 00:31:04.652
- And i want it more than you do. yeah.
- 00:31:04.652 --> 00:31:07.355
- Like, will you let me father my son?
- 00:31:07.355 --> 00:31:10.191
- Wow. like, am i even bringing that to you to be able to walk
- 00:31:10.191 --> 00:31:14.028
- That out for-- you know, am i praying about it or
- 00:31:14.028 --> 00:31:16.397
- Am i nagging about it?
- 00:31:16.397 --> 00:31:18.132
- Am i, you know, complaining about it to my girlfriends
- 00:31:18.132 --> 00:31:20.368
- Or am i-- what am i doing with my words?
- 00:31:20.368 --> 00:31:21.936
- Am i bringing life or death in this?
- 00:31:21.936 --> 00:31:24.005
- I think that it's my insecurities and my fears that
- 00:31:24.005 --> 00:31:27.208
- Show up in that space where i'm wanting to fix it, and i feel
- 00:31:27.208 --> 00:31:31.312
- It a lot, even now, of our adult daughter came back home,
- 00:31:31.312 --> 00:31:35.149
- And that's a totally different to have an adult daughter in
- 00:31:35.149 --> 00:31:37.485
- Your house, like trying to navigate.
- 00:31:37.485 --> 00:31:39.320
- And so i felt really like aware of it and prepared.
- 00:31:39.320 --> 00:31:41.956
- And i was, you know, i felt like, oh, okay, you know, we
- 00:31:41.956 --> 00:31:44.659
- Need to change our language so that we're not talking down to
- 00:31:44.659 --> 00:31:47.395
- Her like it's a kid or, you know, just how can we adjust.
- 00:31:47.395 --> 00:31:50.598
- And so i was trying to give some tips, you know, just i
- 00:31:50.598 --> 00:31:54.702
- Think it's my favorite.
- 00:31:54.702 --> 00:31:55.536
- I'm just trying to help.
- 00:31:55.536 --> 00:31:57.438
- They don't need our tips.
- 00:31:57.438 --> 00:31:58.439
- I'm just trying to help, you know.
- 00:31:58.439 --> 00:32:00.108
- And he's walking--
- 00:32:00.108 --> 00:32:00.875
- They're walking through this,
- 00:32:00.875 --> 00:32:02.810
- And what i want to fix, the lord's like
- 00:32:02.810 --> 00:32:06.014
- Irini, i've got it. yeah.
- 00:32:06.014 --> 00:32:07.749
- It's okay that you're uncomfortable right now.
- 00:32:07.749 --> 00:32:10.351
- Yeah. and it does.
- 00:32:10.351 --> 00:32:11.552
- It goes back to places where there were disagreements
- 00:32:11.552 --> 00:32:14.288
- In my childhood.
- 00:32:14.288 --> 00:32:15.356
- And i wanted, you know, peace.
- 00:32:15.356 --> 00:32:17.191
- I just wanted to be in--
- 00:32:17.191 --> 00:32:18.493
- And i actually wanted a false peace, like, everybody just
- 00:32:18.493 --> 00:32:22.363
- Stop, you know, and so i can feel myself, like, almost like
- 00:32:22.363 --> 00:32:25.833
- I'm the interpreter between what she's saying is--
- 00:32:25.833 --> 00:32:28.669
- I know. dad is saying is, you know what?
- 00:32:28.669 --> 00:32:31.305
- You know, because you're trying to soften.
- 00:32:31.305 --> 00:32:33.307
- You don't want something to
- 00:32:33.307 --> 00:32:34.709
- Happen between their relationship.
- 00:32:34.709 --> 00:32:36.677
- And that's on me.
- 00:32:36.677 --> 00:32:38.913
- That's for me too.
- 00:32:38.913 --> 00:32:39.881
- And i was like, god, how can i trust you,
- 00:32:39.881 --> 00:32:42.917
- You know, to father your son.
- 00:32:42.917 --> 00:32:44.819
- Yeah. that's so good
- 00:32:44.819 --> 00:32:46.020
- Because i realized so much of
- 00:32:46.020 --> 00:32:47.155
- What i've done in the past is disrespectful.
- 00:32:47.155 --> 00:32:49.390
- I didn't mean it to be disrespectful, but just even my
- 00:32:49.390 --> 00:32:52.760
- Rolling my eyes or my kind of giving my son a look, like,
- 00:32:52.760 --> 00:32:55.596
- There he is again.
- 00:32:55.596 --> 00:32:56.764
- And i'm like, i don't want to be like that
- 00:32:56.764 --> 00:32:59.100
- If the whole point of my life is to become more like jesus.
- 00:32:59.100 --> 00:33:02.070
- Yeah, sheila, that's so good.
- 00:33:02.070 --> 00:33:04.338
- Because the rolling of the eyes, the attitude that is
- 00:33:04.338 --> 00:33:08.709
- What is called contempt. yeah.
- 00:33:08.709 --> 00:33:10.611
- And that is one of the
- 00:33:10.611 --> 00:33:11.746
- Strongest predictors of divorce. wow.
- 00:33:11.746 --> 00:33:14.148
- It's that somehow we've positioned ourselves
- 00:33:14.148 --> 00:33:16.717
- Higher than the person that we love.
- 00:33:16.717 --> 00:33:19.654
- And that never works.
- 00:33:19.654 --> 00:33:21.656
- It never works in marriage and so, so
- 00:33:21.656 --> 00:33:23.658
- But yet it can be what
- 00:33:23.658 --> 00:33:25.159
- Irini, you said. it's rooted often in fear.
- 00:33:25.159 --> 00:33:27.995
- Fear and our own stuff coming up.
- 00:33:27.995 --> 00:33:29.363
- And if we don't fix this, and we're the experts.
- 00:33:29.363 --> 00:33:32.300
- The lord said, you know,
- 00:33:32.300 --> 00:33:33.401
- Told me so many times, just step back and trust.
- 00:33:33.401 --> 00:33:35.736
- Yeah, yeah.
- 00:33:35.736 --> 00:33:36.270
- Trust. don't fix.
- 00:33:36.270 --> 00:33:38.039
- And it's so--
- 00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:38.906
- Life's so much easier on that side.
- 00:33:38.906 --> 00:33:40.708
- I don't know if you've experienced it.
- 00:33:40.708 --> 00:33:42.110
- Oh, yes.
- 00:33:42.110 --> 00:33:43.678
- My husband and i have been married for 31 years, and it's
- 00:33:43.678 --> 00:33:46.781
- Been interesting discovering the different ways that we
- 00:33:46.781 --> 00:33:49.684
- Struggle with insecurity.
- 00:33:49.684 --> 00:33:51.586
- You know, one of the things that's really important for my
- 00:33:51.586 --> 00:33:53.754
- Husband is to feel respected.
- 00:33:53.754 --> 00:33:55.957
- And yet sometimes in the early years of our marriage, i would
- 00:33:55.957 --> 00:33:58.693
- Have all sorts of opinions as
- 00:33:58.693 --> 00:33:59.994
- To how he could do things better.
- 00:33:59.994 --> 00:34:01.729
- And all he heard was that was
- 00:34:01.729 --> 00:34:03.364
- Just feeding into his insecurity.
- 00:34:03.364 --> 00:34:05.733
- One of the greatest
- 00:34:05.733 --> 00:34:07.101
- Things we can do is talk to one another.
- 00:34:07.101 --> 00:34:09.871
- You know, if you're in a marriage and it's challenging,
- 00:34:09.871 --> 00:34:13.074
- It's good just to sit down and say, let me tell you
- 00:34:13.074 --> 00:34:15.276
- How that made me feel, and then hear from the other person too,
- 00:34:15.276 --> 00:34:18.913
- Because god has said his grace is enough.
- 00:34:18.913 --> 00:34:24.085
- I used to think submission was about control.
- 00:34:27.455 --> 00:34:31.292
- Um, the man had control over me, that he thought for me,
- 00:34:31.292 --> 00:34:36.397
- He did everything.
- 00:34:36.397 --> 00:34:37.999
- It wasn't about a partnership.
- 00:34:37.999 --> 00:34:40.268
- And so when i got married and i had to get in the scripture for
- 00:34:40.268 --> 00:34:44.205
- Myself, and my husband and i begin to share things because
- 00:34:44.205 --> 00:34:47.542
- We would bump heads from that, because i didn't even give him
- 00:34:47.542 --> 00:34:51.412
- An opportunity to even share with me what submission was.
- 00:34:51.412 --> 00:34:55.583
- Because of my cultural background, i automatically
- 00:34:55.583 --> 00:34:58.653
- Thought, no.
- 00:34:58.653 --> 00:34:59.887
- He wanted to have control over me, and that's not what he
- 00:34:59.887 --> 00:35:02.690
- Wanted to have.
- 00:35:02.690 --> 00:35:03.791
- So i had to unlearn what submission was all about.
- 00:35:03.791 --> 00:35:07.595
- And when i did, i promise you, it became a beautiful thing to
- 00:35:07.595 --> 00:35:12.633
- Be able to submit to someone who actually loves god and
- 00:35:12.633 --> 00:35:16.070
- Loved me as well.
- 00:35:16.070 --> 00:35:17.405
- Now my husband and i, we are aligned.
- 00:35:17.405 --> 00:35:19.373
- We have a great marriage.
- 00:35:19.373 --> 00:35:21.442
- But i'm going to tell you what, we had a lot of differences
- 00:35:21.442 --> 00:35:24.178
- That really weren't, um, high stakes, but it really made a
- 00:35:24.178 --> 00:35:27.481
- Difference in our ability to connect.
- 00:35:27.481 --> 00:35:29.817
- One was pleasantries.
- 00:35:29.817 --> 00:35:31.986
- My husband loves the pleasantries.
- 00:35:31.986 --> 00:35:33.654
- He loves.
- 00:35:33.654 --> 00:35:34.188
- Hi, how are you?
- 00:35:34.188 --> 00:35:35.556
- Um, me?
- 00:35:35.556 --> 00:35:36.724
- I'm like, let's just get down to business, let's talk.
- 00:35:36.724 --> 00:35:38.926
- And i will never forget the time when he's like, angie, i
- 00:35:38.926 --> 00:35:42.196
- Need you to call me back and we're going to start over.
- 00:35:42.196 --> 00:35:45.766
- Wow. i had something to learn.
- 00:35:45.766 --> 00:35:47.635
- And because i loved him, i learned to change my ways.
- 00:35:47.635 --> 00:35:51.439
- Now it's a whole communication thing.
- 00:35:51.439 --> 00:35:53.674
- Many other things i had to unlearn.
- 00:35:53.674 --> 00:35:55.142
- But it's worth it to change ourselves so that we can not
- 00:35:55.142 --> 00:35:58.779
- Only be better people, but we can be better for our partner.
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- 00:36:18.165 --> 00:36:20.101
- Phrase of helpmate. what does that really look like?
- 00:36:20.101 --> 00:36:24.338
- Because, you know, we're designed in a way that actually
- 00:36:24.338 --> 00:36:28.175
- Reflects a lot of the holy spirit.
- 00:36:28.175 --> 00:36:31.145
- What does that look like?
- 00:36:31.145 --> 00:36:32.179
- Because i, i was like, well, i read helpmate.
- 00:36:32.179 --> 00:36:34.081
- You need my help, mate.
- 00:36:34.081 --> 00:36:35.716
- You know, like, i got i got you, i got you, you know, like
- 00:36:35.716 --> 00:36:38.819
- Clearly, you know, and and some of that has been some cultural
- 00:36:38.819 --> 00:36:42.356
- Places of how things have been taught or how we watch-- you
- 00:36:42.356 --> 00:36:46.560
- Know, i mean, and culture happens in the one
- 00:36:46.560 --> 00:36:48.195
- That you grow up in.
- 00:36:48.195 --> 00:36:49.397
- It can be watched, the tv shows you watch, the movies.
- 00:36:49.397 --> 00:36:52.400
- How has that affected
- 00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:54.302
- What-- or maybe even replaced what we, you know, have
- 00:36:54.302 --> 00:36:58.873
- Believed about how we were designed?
- 00:36:58.873 --> 00:37:01.842
- How is culture influenced that?
- 00:37:01.842 --> 00:37:04.111
- I think culture has degraded men,
- 00:37:04.111 --> 00:37:08.082
- Degraded fathers. yeah.
- 00:37:08.082 --> 00:37:10.584
- Degraded the male, you know.
- 00:37:10.584 --> 00:37:13.254
- Come on guys, you are loved.
- 00:37:13.254 --> 00:37:15.956
- You are appreciated.
- 00:37:15.956 --> 00:37:17.892
- You are chosen to lead.
- 00:37:17.892 --> 00:37:20.361
- Your chosen to do great things
- 00:37:20.361 --> 00:37:22.630
- And be the head of your household.
- 00:37:22.630 --> 00:37:24.732
- And we have to trust as women, and i'm talking about followers
- 00:37:24.732 --> 00:37:29.236
- Of christ right across the board should be displayed
- 00:37:29.236 --> 00:37:33.107
- Beautifully as husbands love their wives,
- 00:37:33.107 --> 00:37:36.877
- Wives respect their husbands.
- 00:37:36.877 --> 00:37:39.380
- That's what they want.
- 00:37:39.380 --> 00:37:40.648
- That's the biggest, that's the biggest thing that that guys
- 00:37:40.648 --> 00:37:45.119
- Need is respect,
- 00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:47.021
- That you are great at your job.
- 00:37:47.021 --> 00:37:49.090
- You are a great provider.
- 00:37:49.090 --> 00:37:50.925
- You are a great--
- 00:37:50.925 --> 00:37:52.126
- And if we start speaking those things that the bible
- 00:37:52.126 --> 00:37:55.763
- Clearly tells us about of how to treat each other and start
- 00:37:55.763 --> 00:38:00.601
- Declaring that even if they're not.
- 00:38:00.601 --> 00:38:03.237
- Right.
- 00:38:03.237 --> 00:38:04.405
- You start declaring that over them and telling them --
- 00:38:04.405 --> 00:38:07.341
- Prophesy over your spouse. -- who they are and
- 00:38:07.341 --> 00:38:09.677
- Declaring that into their spirits.
- 00:38:09.677 --> 00:38:11.512
- Guess what? yeah.
- 00:38:11.512 --> 00:38:13.047
- You're going to see changes in that man.
- 00:38:13.047 --> 00:38:15.683
- So i think the way we speak to
- 00:38:15.683 --> 00:38:18.519
- And over our, our households is
- 00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:22.089
- Probably one of the biggest responsibilities as women and
- 00:38:22.089 --> 00:38:25.726
- Wives and mothers
- 00:38:25.726 --> 00:38:27.228
- In our household.
- 00:38:27.228 --> 00:38:28.629
- The effect that then has on our children.
- 00:38:28.629 --> 00:38:30.164
- It does because i hadn't even thought of things like that.
- 00:38:30.164 --> 00:38:33.334
- Like, i think i was almost treating my son and i more like
- 00:38:33.334 --> 00:38:36.470
- A team, as opposed to my husband and i as a team.
- 00:38:36.470 --> 00:38:39.540
- And i think that runs rampant.
- 00:38:39.540 --> 00:38:41.375
- Yeah, but i have i mean, i love-- i've told you this
- 00:38:41.375 --> 00:38:44.178
- Before, i love the word repentance.
- 00:38:44.178 --> 00:38:45.913
- I think it's one of the greatest gifts that we have
- 00:38:45.913 --> 00:38:48.649
- Ever been given.
- 00:38:48.649 --> 00:38:50.117
- And so, i mean, i've done that one night, i mean, a few years
- 00:38:50.117 --> 00:38:53.554
- Ago, but literally with barry and christian there, um, i got
- 00:38:53.554 --> 00:38:57.024
- Down on my knees and i asked them both to forgive me, and we
- 00:38:57.024 --> 00:38:59.326
- All ended up in tears because i think it matters to my son that
- 00:38:59.326 --> 00:39:03.864
- I respect his dad, you know, because it says things to him
- 00:39:03.864 --> 00:39:06.767
- About who he thinks he believes he is.
- 00:39:06.767 --> 00:39:09.136
- Yeah. that's the one thing i love about the lord.
- 00:39:09.136 --> 00:39:11.038
- I mean, i can be the biggest idiot on the planet, but he
- 00:39:11.038 --> 00:39:13.707
- Never stops working and never stops calling me toward him to
- 00:39:13.707 --> 00:39:17.578
- Become more like him. he's so kind.
- 00:39:17.578 --> 00:39:19.780
- Yes, he is.
- 00:39:19.780 --> 00:39:22.249
- You know, the bible says that death and life are in the power
- 00:39:22.249 --> 00:39:24.852
- Of your tongue.
- 00:39:24.852 --> 00:39:26.086
- So when you're speaking life over your family, over your
- 00:39:26.086 --> 00:39:31.492
- Spouse, over your household,
- 00:39:31.492 --> 00:39:33.894
- That's exactly what's happening.
- 00:39:33.894 --> 00:39:35.496
- You're giving life to it.
- 00:39:35.496 --> 00:39:37.264
- You're calling on god. everything that pertains to
- 00:39:37.264 --> 00:39:40.100
- Life and godliness,
- 00:39:40.100 --> 00:39:42.069
- You're speaking over, your declaring through the victory
- 00:39:42.069 --> 00:39:46.173
- That jesus gave to us on the cross, the overcoming victory
- 00:39:46.173 --> 00:39:49.910
- That we have in christ,
- 00:39:49.910 --> 00:39:51.345
- You're declaring that over your home.
- 00:39:51.345 --> 00:39:53.914
- You're declaring that over your husband, speaking life, seeing
- 00:39:53.914 --> 00:39:57.485
- Him as god created him to be instead of you lousy
- 00:39:57.485 --> 00:40:02.923
- Person or you lazy person, or you're not doing enough.
- 00:40:02.923 --> 00:40:07.561
- You're not--
- 00:40:07.561 --> 00:40:08.429
- Stop saying that about your husband.
- 00:40:08.429 --> 00:40:10.631
- Start speaking life into him, praying together.
- 00:40:10.631 --> 00:40:13.734
- Maybe you have to start that.
- 00:40:13.734 --> 00:40:15.202
- Maybe he won't start that.
- 00:40:15.202 --> 00:40:16.303
- But just start it simple.
- 00:40:16.303 --> 00:40:18.906
- Start at the dinner table.
- 00:40:18.906 --> 00:40:20.040
- Start, god bless my husband.
- 00:40:20.040 --> 00:40:21.942
- I speak life over him today.
- 00:40:21.942 --> 00:40:23.944
- God, that you're--
- 00:40:23.944 --> 00:40:25.246
- He's walking in the calling of god that you've called him to
- 00:40:25.246 --> 00:40:28.115
- Be the man of god
- 00:40:28.115 --> 00:40:29.283
- That he-- and encourage that, encourage those things.
- 00:40:29.283 --> 00:40:32.920
- You will see life come into your marriage and health,
- 00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:36.957
- And you will live that life.
- 00:40:36.957 --> 00:40:40.160
- And just the beauty of, um, of that honesty of of being able
- 00:40:40.160 --> 00:40:44.865
- To say, hey, this is where i didn't get it right, this is
- 00:40:44.865 --> 00:40:46.967
- Where i missed it.
- 00:40:46.967 --> 00:40:48.269
- And i think all the way back in original design, if you go back
- 00:40:48.269 --> 00:40:51.705
- To the garden, you just look and you don't see--
- 00:40:51.705 --> 00:40:55.075
- There's not enough rules.
- 00:40:55.075 --> 00:40:56.343
- I wouldn't have, i wouldn't
- 00:40:56.343 --> 00:40:57.511
- Even left, you know, just two trees.
- 00:40:57.511 --> 00:40:59.346
- And, you know, y'all work this out, and just don't don't
- 00:40:59.346 --> 00:41:02.449
- Eat after that one.
- 00:41:02.449 --> 00:41:03.751
- You know, when i first left my kid at home for the first time,
- 00:41:03.751 --> 00:41:06.253
- I had, like, 20 rules, you
- 00:41:06.253 --> 00:41:07.555
- Know, like, and this is in the garden.
- 00:41:07.555 --> 00:41:09.490
- But i even think in that there weren't these, um, now, this is
- 00:41:09.490 --> 00:41:13.460
- What a woman does, and this is what a man does.
- 00:41:13.460 --> 00:41:16.564
- It's like, be fruitful and multiply.
- 00:41:16.564 --> 00:41:19.400
- Take dominion.
- 00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:20.601
- And i just-- it's going to look different in different
- 00:41:20.601 --> 00:41:23.304
- Marriages and what that looks like.
- 00:41:23.304 --> 00:41:25.039
- I think culture, especially being on our phones, um, is
- 00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:30.311
- Presenting one thing. yeah.
- 00:41:30.311 --> 00:41:32.479
- It's, you know, who knows
- 00:41:32.479 --> 00:41:33.914
- How long that family photo took.
- 00:41:33.914 --> 00:41:35.516
- Let's be honest.
- 00:41:35.516 --> 00:41:36.550
- There's a lot of bribery that happens in photos,
- 00:41:36.550 --> 00:41:39.853
- You know, trust me.
- 00:41:39.853 --> 00:41:42.022
- And so it just the realities of how it looks.
- 00:41:42.022 --> 00:41:45.793
- And i just think it's that, that spirit of comparison
- 00:41:45.793 --> 00:41:49.763
- That's breaking down marriages,
- 00:41:49.763 --> 00:41:51.131
- That spirit of envy, of jealousy.
- 00:41:51.131 --> 00:41:54.435
- And the truth is, is that you're comparing it to
- 00:41:54.435 --> 00:41:56.337
- Something that you don't even see the whole thing.
- 00:41:56.337 --> 00:41:58.272
- I know. you don't even know what you're looking at.
- 00:41:58.272 --> 00:42:00.608
- And so it's like, oh, well, look, he does this for his
- 00:42:00.608 --> 00:42:03.277
- Wife. you know, he took a picture of-- he brought her
- 00:42:03.277 --> 00:42:05.379
- Flowers every day.
- 00:42:05.379 --> 00:42:06.180
- He pumps her gas.
- 00:42:06.180 --> 00:42:07.281
- He, you know-- and you hear a story.
- 00:42:07.281 --> 00:42:08.816
- And you were like, i remember when someone was like, yeah, i
- 00:42:08.816 --> 00:42:12.119
- Heard a story about a woman.
- 00:42:12.119 --> 00:42:13.520
- She never pumps her own gas, you know, he always takes it at
- 00:42:13.520 --> 00:42:16.890
- The beginning of the week and he pumps the gas.
- 00:42:16.890 --> 00:42:18.759
- And i looked at him and i said, i just want to-
- 00:42:18.759 --> 00:42:21.128
- I have so many other things.
- 00:42:21.128 --> 00:42:22.663
- Don't take that one on, there was, you know, now like,
- 00:42:22.663 --> 00:42:26.033
- I mean, he pumps the gas if we're out together.
- 00:42:26.033 --> 00:42:28.836
- I'm just saying like, but for me,
- 00:42:28.836 --> 00:42:31.205
- And what i wanted and what we were doing, this is he and i.
- 00:42:31.205 --> 00:42:35.376
- Like god, you know, what do you want to do through us?
- 00:42:35.376 --> 00:42:38.445
- And so letting other things impact that original design,
- 00:42:38.445 --> 00:42:42.850
- Because the design is the two would become one.
- 00:42:42.850 --> 00:42:45.019
- Right.
- 00:42:45.019 --> 00:42:46.253
- I like that because you said, you know, it's different
- 00:42:46.253 --> 00:42:48.055
- For every home. every single marriage.
- 00:42:48.055 --> 00:42:51.058
- Every single marriage is different.
- 00:42:51.058 --> 00:42:53.060
- I have an older brother, him and his wife--
- 00:42:53.060 --> 00:42:55.529
- Um, my brother's amazing.
- 00:42:55.529 --> 00:42:57.231
- He's the server in the relationship.
- 00:42:57.231 --> 00:42:59.400
- My whole family are servers, period.
- 00:42:59.400 --> 00:43:01.869
- But he serves his wife.
- 00:43:01.869 --> 00:43:03.804
- So ikea, opened the door for her.
- 00:43:03.804 --> 00:43:06.540
- You know, go let the--
- 00:43:06.540 --> 00:43:08.809
- Let her out the car, let her in.
- 00:43:08.809 --> 00:43:11.045
- Close the door.
- 00:43:11.045 --> 00:43:12.246
- You know, just really take care of her with this door.
- 00:43:12.246 --> 00:43:14.281
- Well, me-- this door.
- 00:43:14.281 --> 00:43:16.650
- I mean, with this door because this door
- 00:43:16.650 --> 00:43:18.552
- Is a big deal.
- 00:43:18.552 --> 00:43:20.087
- Believe me.
- 00:43:20.087 --> 00:43:21.221
- So for me, i am so quick, so adhd kind of,
- 00:43:21.221 --> 00:43:27.194
- By the time you get over here to my door, i could be in the
- 00:43:27.194 --> 00:43:31.198
- House or in the room or wherever.
- 00:43:31.198 --> 00:43:33.067
- Like, i'm good.
- 00:43:33.067 --> 00:43:34.301
- Like you just come on in when you can.
- 00:43:34.301 --> 00:43:36.203
- Yeah. well, you know, i'm thinking.
- 00:43:36.203 --> 00:43:38.205
- Okay, well, maybe i should sit here and let him open the door
- 00:43:38.205 --> 00:43:42.409
- For me because it seems like it's working for them.
- 00:43:42.409 --> 00:43:45.779
- So how long did you wait?
- 00:43:45.779 --> 00:43:48.382
- So funny.
- 00:43:48.382 --> 00:43:50.384
- This is--
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- This is so funny.
- 00:43:50.918 --> 00:43:52.753
- So here we go skiing,
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- Right, after we had this good discussion that i was
- 00:43:55.322 --> 00:43:58.325
- Going to start sitting in the car and allow him to come open
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- The door for me.
- 00:44:01.061 --> 00:44:02.129
- We went skiing.
- 00:44:02.129 --> 00:44:03.163
- We had airbnb, stayed in the cabin, whatever.
- 00:44:03.163 --> 00:44:06.266
- And he got out to go check the door to get in.
- 00:44:06.266 --> 00:44:09.603
- So it's snowing and i'm saying, okay, i'm gonna sit right here,
- 00:44:09.603 --> 00:44:12.740
- Wait. so he went in and i'm sitting there and like, okay,
- 00:44:12.740 --> 00:44:18.178
- Is he ever coming back?
- 00:44:18.178 --> 00:44:20.080
- He looked out the door.
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- He thought like he's like,
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- Come in here.
- 00:44:23.484 --> 00:44:24.718
- I got the fire going in here.
- 00:44:24.718 --> 00:44:26.754
- Like, what are we doing?
- 00:44:26.754 --> 00:44:27.821
- I thought you was gonna open the door.
- 00:44:27.821 --> 00:44:29.656
- He was like, oh, man, i forgot. i forgot, and i ain't even
- 00:44:29.656 --> 00:44:33.560
- Think about it.
- 00:44:33.560 --> 00:44:34.862
- I said, okay, this is not for me and i am perfectly okay with
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- It, but other people will try to put on you what they do and
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- Make you feel like you are
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- Wrong for the way you handle things.
- 00:44:45.038 --> 00:44:47.474
- Like, i'm not offended that he doesn't come open the door for
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- Me, and if i want him to open the door for me, i'll say, hey,
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- Okay, come open the door for me.
- 00:44:53.781 --> 00:44:55.215
- You know, we got on the gown today, so, you know, let's.
- 00:44:55.215 --> 00:44:57.951
- Let's paint this picture.
- 00:44:57.951 --> 00:44:59.620
- You know, and he's good with it.
- 00:44:59.620 --> 00:45:01.522
- But to just say your relationship has to resemble
- 00:45:01.522 --> 00:45:05.626
- Someone else's, it's not realistic.
- 00:45:05.626 --> 00:45:08.028
- No. because everybody is different.
- 00:45:08.028 --> 00:45:09.696
- It's not the design.
- 00:45:09.696 --> 00:45:12.232
- You know, they say that comparison is the thief of joy.
- 00:45:12.232 --> 00:45:14.768
- It truly is.
- 00:45:14.768 --> 00:45:15.969
- I'll never forget about a time that i was scrolling on
- 00:45:15.969 --> 00:45:17.971
- Instagram, and i saw a young couple hadn't been married for
- 00:45:17.971 --> 00:45:20.808
- More than a couple of years.
- 00:45:20.808 --> 00:45:22.009
- We've been married like 16 years at the time, and they
- 00:45:22.009 --> 00:45:24.745
- Were traveling the world.
- 00:45:24.745 --> 00:45:26.280
- As soon as i go downstairs, i start complaining about all the
- 00:45:26.280 --> 00:45:29.283
- Times and all the things we've missed out on.
- 00:45:29.283 --> 00:45:31.285
- I want to travel the world.
- 00:45:31.285 --> 00:45:32.486
- I don't want to have a job.
- 00:45:32.486 --> 00:45:33.654
- I want to go an adventure.
- 00:45:33.654 --> 00:45:35.756
- And he said, angie, give me your phone.
- 00:45:35.756 --> 00:45:38.192
- Yep. he knew i'd been comparing
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- Myself through instagram stories.
- 00:45:40.994 --> 00:45:43.664
- You know what?
- 00:45:43.664 --> 00:45:44.665
- It absolutely did steal my joy.
- 00:45:44.665 --> 00:45:46.133
- And it stole the moment that i had with my family
- 00:45:46.133 --> 00:45:48.902
- Right then and there.
- 00:45:48.902 --> 00:45:50.304
- So we have to be careful.
- 00:45:50.304 --> 00:45:52.105
- Do not look to the right or the left. focus on your land.
- 00:45:52.105 --> 00:45:56.009
- They say the grass is greener.
- 00:45:56.009 --> 00:45:57.678
- It's not. grass is never greener.
- 00:45:57.678 --> 00:45:59.513
- In fact, water where you're planted and watch god
- 00:45:59.513 --> 00:46:02.683
- Do amazing things.
- 00:46:02.683 --> 00:46:04.952
- Put the blinders on and focus on you and your family,
- 00:46:04.952 --> 00:46:08.722
- Your marriage and watch it flourish.
- 00:46:08.722 --> 00:46:11.525
- Listen. you're co-creators with god.
- 00:46:11.525 --> 00:46:13.994
- Design the life you love.
- 00:46:13.994 --> 00:46:16.363
- It's like, go back in and go to the design and let him, you
- 00:46:16.363 --> 00:46:20.467
- Know, keep coming back to it,
- 00:46:20.467 --> 00:46:21.802
- Saying, god, what were you doing?
- 00:46:21.802 --> 00:46:23.270
- And there's some places that it's going to look a lot more
- 00:46:23.270 --> 00:46:26.273
- What our, you know, traditional
- 00:46:26.273 --> 00:46:27.641
- And culture and sometimes it won't.
- 00:46:27.641 --> 00:46:29.643
- And so i think feeling that pressure, allowing that
- 00:46:29.643 --> 00:46:33.914
- Pressure to almost be another voice at the table with
- 00:46:33.914 --> 00:46:37.885
- You and your husband,
- 00:46:37.885 --> 00:46:39.386
- We have to really guard our marriage in that way.
- 00:46:39.386 --> 00:46:42.990
- It is a reflection of the two coming together.
- 00:46:42.990 --> 00:46:46.026
- You see that all throughout.
- 00:46:46.026 --> 00:46:47.327
- I mean, you see it starting in adam, but you see it, you know,
- 00:46:47.327 --> 00:46:49.930
- In the body of christ needing to come together.
- 00:46:49.930 --> 00:46:52.132
- And the enemy does not like unity because, you know, there
- 00:46:52.132 --> 00:46:55.936
- Is where he commands the blessing
- 00:46:55.936 --> 00:46:58.505
- Is in that unity, and unity doesn't mean i agree.
- 00:46:58.505 --> 00:47:02.309
- Right. it doesn't mean i agree.
- 00:47:02.309 --> 00:47:04.311
- It just doesn't.
- 00:47:04.311 --> 00:47:05.045
- It actually, you actually can't
- 00:47:05.045 --> 00:47:06.613
- Have unity if there's not difference.
- 00:47:06.613 --> 00:47:09.082
- Right. if they're both the same.
- 00:47:09.082 --> 00:47:11.084
- Right. why would it have to--
- 00:47:11.084 --> 00:47:13.520
- There isn't a need for the two to come together.
- 00:47:13.520 --> 00:47:15.355
- They're already one.
- 00:47:15.355 --> 00:47:16.523
- So the difference is to have
- 00:47:16.523 --> 00:47:18.058
- Unity mean i have to be different.
- 00:47:18.058 --> 00:47:19.860
- So now i respect that in you and i respect that in, you
- 00:47:19.860 --> 00:47:23.363
- Know, in each of our marriages, for us to look at our spouse
- 00:47:23.363 --> 00:47:26.433
- And respect that.
- 00:47:26.433 --> 00:47:27.668
- And i think a lot of times handling issues that might come
- 00:47:27.668 --> 00:47:32.372
- Between you is a lot of times
- 00:47:32.372 --> 00:47:34.741
- An act of obedience to the lord. yes.
- 00:47:34.741 --> 00:47:37.811
- For your response and watching your mouth.
- 00:47:37.811 --> 00:47:39.746
- Paul says in ephesians 4:29, let no corrupt talk come out of
- 00:47:39.746 --> 00:47:45.752
- Your mouths, but only such as is good for the building up, as
- 00:47:45.752 --> 00:47:50.924
- Fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those that hear.
- 00:47:50.924 --> 00:47:55.295
- Wow. that's good.
- 00:47:55.295 --> 00:47:56.530
- That's powerful.
- 00:47:56.530 --> 00:47:57.965
- We started just talking about how we're just learning from
- 00:47:57.965 --> 00:48:01.668
- Each other, and it's just these reminders like, um, and just
- 00:48:01.668 --> 00:48:04.871
- The simplicity of what am i saying?
- 00:48:04.871 --> 00:48:06.673
- Yeah, what am i saying?
- 00:48:06.673 --> 00:48:07.774
- Did i even pause long enough?
- 00:48:07.774 --> 00:48:09.576
- Yeah. let's just take some time in praying.
- 00:48:09.576 --> 00:48:11.345
- And if you're out there and this is hard today to hear, um,
- 00:48:11.345 --> 00:48:15.615
- That you're just thinking about all the ways that it's not
- 00:48:15.615 --> 00:48:17.718
- Right or how you're looking at other people's marriages,
- 00:48:17.718 --> 00:48:20.988
- Wishing it was that, god wants to do a work right now.
- 00:48:20.988 --> 00:48:24.524
- And so i want to pray for you.
- 00:48:24.524 --> 00:48:26.960
- Lord, thank you.
- 00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:28.795
- I thank you for each of these women that i'm surrounded by
- 00:48:28.795 --> 00:48:31.531
- And their wisdom and how much they love you.
- 00:48:31.531 --> 00:48:33.500
- And i'm so grateful for that.
- 00:48:33.500 --> 00:48:35.469
- Lord, i pray for each and every person that hears this.
- 00:48:35.469 --> 00:48:39.373
- You want to meet them right there, right now.
- 00:48:39.373 --> 00:48:42.442
- And i pray, holy spirit, that your presence would be so real
- 00:48:42.442 --> 00:48:45.245
- And saturate right where they're at.
- 00:48:45.245 --> 00:48:48.181
- Your presence would be like a comforting blanket.
- 00:48:48.181 --> 00:48:51.885
- Lord, we are all human and broken and we need you.
- 00:48:51.885 --> 00:48:56.823
- We need you.
- 00:48:56.823 --> 00:48:58.759
- We didn't get a manual with this thing called marriage.
- 00:48:58.759 --> 00:49:02.763
- We got you.
- 00:49:02.763 --> 00:49:04.131
- You're better than an instruction manual,
- 00:49:04.131 --> 00:49:05.932
- Do this. go this.
- 00:49:05.932 --> 00:49:07.134
- You know, a play by play.
- 00:49:07.134 --> 00:49:08.068
- Lord, your word speaks to us.
- 00:49:08.068 --> 00:49:11.071
- It is alive and active, and it wants to intersect our
- 00:49:11.071 --> 00:49:14.141
- Marriages and our lives.
- 00:49:14.141 --> 00:49:15.776
- And so i just pray for each and every marriage.
- 00:49:15.776 --> 00:49:18.979
- I ask, holy spirit, that you would just cover it, that you
- 00:49:18.979 --> 00:49:22.582
- Send your angels to protect it. for that woman that is thinking
- 00:49:22.582 --> 00:49:27.087
- That this is over and she can do nothing else,
- 00:49:27.087 --> 00:49:29.256
- Lord, would you give her hope. for that man that believes that
- 00:49:29.256 --> 00:49:32.092
- Their marriage can't make it,
- 00:49:32.092 --> 00:49:33.193
- Lord, would you would you breathe hope and life
- 00:49:33.193 --> 00:49:35.162
- Where there is death?
- 00:49:35.162 --> 00:49:36.329
- Lord, we love you and we thank you.
- 00:49:36.329 --> 00:49:37.798
- In jesus' name, amen. amen.
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- Connect with us on social media, and let us know how our team
- 00:49:41.435 --> 00:49:44.271
- Can pray for you.
- 00:49:44.271 --> 00:49:48.275
- So the biggest misconception that we have about each other
- 00:49:51.878 --> 00:49:55.015
- As men and women is that we think that we think, feel, and
- 00:49:55.015 --> 00:49:59.286
- Process the same.
- 00:49:59.286 --> 00:50:00.654
- In fact, it's totally the opposite.
- 00:50:00.654 --> 00:50:02.289
- We are so different.
- 00:50:02.289 --> 00:50:03.557
- We not only process, think, and feel differently,
- 00:50:03.557 --> 00:50:06.526
- But you know what?
- 00:50:06.526 --> 00:50:07.761
- Men actually do carry a lot of fear and shame to ladies.
- 00:50:07.761 --> 00:50:11.898
- They really do.
- 00:50:11.898 --> 00:50:12.899
- And women we want to be protected.
- 00:50:12.899 --> 00:50:15.202
- Men that are watching,
- 00:50:15.202 --> 00:50:16.303
- We want safety, security.
- 00:50:16.303 --> 00:50:18.205
- So if we can just get it all out on the table and have the
- 00:50:18.205 --> 00:50:21.208
- Discussion, we are going to learn a lot about each other
- 00:50:21.208 --> 00:50:24.377
- And we're going to be able to meet each other's needs
- 00:50:24.377 --> 00:50:26.580
- In better ways and have a lot more fun.
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