Bobby Chandler - Identity (Part 2)

November 24, 2025 | 42:14

Pastor Bobby Chandler has found hope in Jesus and wants as many people as possible to experience that exact same freedom.

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Bobby Chandler: Authentic Church | Bobby Chandler - Identity (Part 2) | November 24, 2025

She. hears the biggest question of the podcast today.
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We're going to answer it.
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Are we related?
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You're my brother.
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Great.
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I genuinely try to celebrate
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Other people's names instead of criticizing them.
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I'm just cheering for frank on, bro.
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And i'm not that dude anymore, right?
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Like, i'm not the person,
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Like, walking
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Through to the other side of developing godly ambition.
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They'll kind of point me back to like, who i was before.
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I understood that when i had selfish ambition,
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When i was struggling, when i was, self-centered,
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You know, in all my pursuits.
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And so those were like,
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There's a, there's a grief that happens
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To those relationships dying. and that's a bummer, right?
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And so it's a weird process that i think we have to walk
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Through for community,
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Because there's certain things that, like you're
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Going through that like, not everybody's
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Going to be able to relate to it in your local community.
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Right.
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And then there's certain stuff that like,
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You only become able
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To talk about, celebrate together,
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But like
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Other people may not understand and it's not really for them.
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So there's there's layers to community that i have.
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I mean, my, my family is also a community, right?
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My, my, my my home.
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There's a i also have a therapist
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Like that's a part of my community.
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Make sure my mind is right
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When i'm dealing with all this stuff.
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So i have a place to like just,
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I want to say vent,
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But like process the the real life struggles
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That i'm going through in certain aspects.
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And so i think, i think it's a, it's a huge process.
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But you're right,
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Your question is right in that if you're not careful
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And you're like, man,
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I just want to be close to my day.
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One's for the sake of being close to my day.
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Wasn't in the past.
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They'll keep you in the past. and then i even try.
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They're not even trying to be malicious.
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So they bet you. yeah, they want to keep you there.
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And i remember when jesus changed my life.
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Like i had some friends, like, man,
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I, they were honest with me.
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I don't like what's happening with you.
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I don't like that.
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You're you're changing in the way you speak,
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And you don't want to go out with us on the weekends
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And stuff like that, but like the old me is, is gone.
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But you got to be careful with it too,
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Because i think, like, stories are like like joseph. right.
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And you get this dream from the lord over
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What's going to happen in your future.
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But immediately when he tells his brothers,
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Oh, they're not happy for him,
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You know, what kind of dream did you have?
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I'm going to down into you,
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And they're not going to understand.
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This is help me
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With ministry.
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When god's doing something big,
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Not everybody is going to be excited
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Because not everybody understands.
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And that's okay.
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Yeah, because god spoke to me or god spoke specifically to you.
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God hasn't spoken to them about that yet.
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And so even though they may criticize you or come after you,
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You can trust the lord at the end of the process.
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But you kind of brought up another interesting point
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As well.
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Like how would people know?
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Because it's it's unhealthy to keep it all in, okay.
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But you also get to guard your mouth as well.
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So what would you say is the difference between
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Venting, biblical venting and gossip?
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Man, that's a great question.
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We i just think of the proverb that like,
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You know, a fool vents all of his emotions.
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You know, that's give him
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And that's and that's, that's one that like. yeah.
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So i think,
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I think there's, i think
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If you if you need to process something with someone,
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You better make sure that like there's a resolution
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At the end of it and you're not just
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Throwing up and bleeding on people.
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Yeah. there's hurting people. yeah.
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Because that is so unhelpful and so toxic.
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If all you do is just throw up on people and bleed on people.
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And so yeah.
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So what my therapist, i would say there's some times
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Where i need to process and even then it's not like me
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Just complaining and venting like it's more so hey,
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Try to process this
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Aspect of this relationship that i'm navigating
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And like help me get some perspective on this.
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And then i yeah.
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So i is so, so again, i think it's an answer.
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Of course, i think the difference between
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That is you're looking for resolution versus
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You're just looking to just talk
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About someone for the sake of talking
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Or talk about thing or talk about a situation.
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If you just talk about a situation over
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And over and over and over and over again,
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Or relationship over and over,
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You're not trying to find resolution.
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Yeah. and i don't think that's healthy.
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Who's slandering this?
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Yeah. you're you're causing division.
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And we know that satan always causes division
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No matter where you are
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Within the family, within the church,
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Your business or any of those different things.
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So that's good, bro. that's good.
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Another thing i was thinking about this too,
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And this kind of a deep thought for a second or something.
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I've been through it
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And again, hearing about your past,
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I kind of will
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Ask you
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How you walk through this,
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And i call it kind of like the abrahamic calling.
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So out of genesis chapter 12, verse one and two,
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The lord calls
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Abraham into the unknown, and he pretty much states,
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Alright, i want you to leave your family.
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And when i leave, leave land of the chaldeans, pagan nation.
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His father was a pagan there many idols and stuff like that.
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So i want you to leave all that behind
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To change the generations to come.
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It's such an inspiring
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Story, and at the same time, it's a very scary story
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Because you're moving completely by faith, okay?
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And in my life, and this is something
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I've been wanting to talk about for a while in my life. so,
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You know, i played church for a very long time
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And, and everybody's got this potion.
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Like, i also want to say that to my family is very good to me.
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They they my parents loved me.
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But everybody has some type of dysfunction.
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Even jesus had dysfunction within his family.
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His brothers did believe that he was the son of god,
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You know, until later.
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And so i remember when i first gave my life to jesus,
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It was the night my grandmother died.
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I saw, and she literally raised her arm up.
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And i was like, all right,
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I am going to, actually, no, not give my life to jesus.
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But i decided to go into ministry that night.
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And i tell my my now wife, we were dating at the time,
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But the hard part was,
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I felt like because of where i came from,
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I remember immediately go into the pastor
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Was like, hey, i want to go to ministry.
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And he was like,
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Good luck, you know what i mean?
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And not everybody's story is like this,
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But because people keep you in the best,
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Because people know you a certain way.
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Nobody was really supportive for me to go into ministry.
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Why do you think that was your pastor specifically?
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At that time in my life, yes.
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Oh, because i just wasn't living for jesus at all.
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Okay.
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Like there were, like i said, i just
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I was i really gave my life to jesus at 21.
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Okay?
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Was a very hard age to give your life to jesus to.
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And then i remember, like, if i was in church
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At that time, usually i was hung over.
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People do that,
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Or at least my friends did, you know what i mean?
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And it's not that i was a crazy, wild kid.
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I mean, i was a pretty average,
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Like regular college student party in two months,
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But it's like i because they knew that about me.
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It was all that.
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They either laughed at the idea
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And it just felt like there was no help or
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I heard, it's going to be hard.
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I don't know if that's that's for you.
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And so there seemed to be a very, for me,
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A lack of mentorship starting in.
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And so me
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And my wife got married at the time and god says move.
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And so we moved to dallas.
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And for you like hearing your story, like
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You move by faith to do these incredible things.
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But what would you say to the person that feels
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A little bit like abraham?
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Like they're trying to find a way they they know.
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And let's say this
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Person knows that god has confirmed
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It is not something they just want.
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Like, this is truly godly ambition,
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But where's the mentorship?
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Like who are they going to call when they feel like
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There's not one pastor that they really know
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That can invest into their life?
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Well, i love the idea of mentorship.
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When it's life on life, i think that's optimal.
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However, i think sometimes
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We want mentors
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Without first
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Walking through, applying the things we know.
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Right?
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And so it's like, man,
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I get hit up all the time, hey, can you mentor?
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You can you mentor me? can you measure me? right.
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And and i reply to people, usually i'll say something like,
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Hey man.
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Like i'm like,
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I got a lot on my plate, but here's what i can do.
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I can leave my dms open to you.
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And if you have questions,
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Send me a voice note and i'll
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Answer as many of your questions as i can.
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And then what happens?
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Never send questions
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Because they haven't actually
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Walked through the process of applying the information.
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Yeah, right.
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It's just a they just take this.
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Sometimes they want validation.
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Sometimes they
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Just want somebody to tell them they can do it.
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Sometimes they just want permission to do it right.
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And the reality is like, you don't need a
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You don't need me or you to say you have permission to do it.
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You have permission to go do it, go build it, or try.
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And when you do that, when you start,
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When you start attempting to do something,
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Oddly enough, the people that are going to be
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Your mentors, that will pick up the phone, come around you.
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And so it's like, i think in your life you're like,
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I'm like, well, why didn't he why didn't you believe in you?
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I was like, what?
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Because i was hanging over every sunday and it's like, it's
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Not a fruit. i mean, no is my.
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Are you either dog like, who are you?
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I'm like, you'll go fix your life,
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You know, like i'm here if you need counsel.
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But i'm like ministry, right?
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It's so it's like, i think people
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Want mentors for seasons that they're nowhere near.
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And i'm like, bro, get your life in order first, right?
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Like, get your life in order first.
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And that's i think, the hard part because oddly,
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This has been my experience.
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Maybe this is in your experience.
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My experience has been
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In my space in the christian youtube space.
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It's very different than a christian
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Hip hop space of christian
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Hip hop space was a lot of dysfunctional competition.
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Yeah, a lot of trying to clobber over each other for
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These three festival slots.
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And it was real weird.
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This is before christian hip hop was as big in
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The christian youtube space.
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It is the most
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Friendly, generous, open handed.
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How can i serve you?
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What do you need help with?
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Let's talk about analytics, bro.
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Here's some feedback on your thumbnails
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Like it is the most generous
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Space that i've ever been a part of.
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Everybody's willing to help, and everybody
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Has an open in mentality with anything they have.
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And but, but, but it's after i got a little momentum
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That all of a sudden
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The people
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I was watching, the mike winger's the alan pars are like,
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Hey man, like, what do you need help with?
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Like, how can i be fucking free?
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What what what, what questions do you have?
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And it was like then i was at the point
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To actually ask the questions
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To help me scale and get to the next level.
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I'm not sure if this is
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Answering your questions at all, but i think
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I think there's something here with like people and mentorship,
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And i was like, well, are you in the local church?
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Do you have a local pastor?
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Do you have mini god in your real life?
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And then it's like, well, i want mentorship in this thing.
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And i would say, well, are you even doing the thing
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Regularly?
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It's like, well, i tried it six times
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And i'm like, try it for six years.
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Yeah, go do the thing for six years and then call me.
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And by
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And i guarantee you, you don't have to
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In christian youtube if you want to be coaching job bro.
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You do this consistently for six months
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Like consistently for six months.
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Odds are i'll see your video and reach out.
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Like i'll reach out because i actually do want to help.
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I want to cultivate the space.
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I want to make sure that the next generation of creators
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Coming up is good and has resources, right.
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And so i end up doing the reaching out
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When folks are at 10,000 subs, 5000 subs
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And go on their channels and pour into them. why?
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Because i genuinely care.
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I don't think it's a zero sum game.
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I think the more christian youtubers the more.
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Let me let me rephrase that.
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The more equip pastors and experts and scholars
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That actually know what they're
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Talking about on youtube, the better.
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I don't want any 21 year old kid
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I don't need we don't need more 19 year
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Olds from tiktok doing christian youtube.
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We need we need more folks like you
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That went through the school of hard knocks.
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Been in ministry.
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Have a heart for jesus.
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Have a heart for the local church.
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We need folks like you on youtube
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Into the serving side of it and do the serving side of it.
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And so, you know, the mentorship thing,
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I think it comes when it's supposed to come.
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Like i really believe that, but that doesn't mean
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You can't get good information. when i, when i,
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When i would watch gary vee,
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He was my mentor.
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And then i met him and i had all these expectations
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And he he followed me back on instagram
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And he would give me a shout out
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Every time i was in instagram live.
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He brought me on 1 or 2 times on the livestream.
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I had these expectations.
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I'm gonna interview gary, imma be on his channel.
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He's going to interview me.
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None of that happened, but it didn't have to happen.
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I got exactly what i needed from gary
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And he was a huge blessing to me.
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Even though he's not a christian,
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He doesn't walk with jesus. right?
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And so i think like sometimes we have these expectations.
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But a lot of times when you have mentors,
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You have heroes that you, you you don't,
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You actually don't need what you think you need from them.
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You just need the value that they're providing.
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And that's good too, because, you know,
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When people even come up to me, i want to do what you do.
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What are they really saying?
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I want to be mentored by you,
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But are they really saying, i want to go through the process
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Of serving and i'm willing to, for it to take
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As long as it needs to take?
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Or are they saying, i want your platform
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And i'm okay with having it,
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You know, in a month, but that's as long as i wait.
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You know, most of the time,
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Especially within the social media world, man,
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We see these platforms
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Like these guys that are preaching
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The word of god that are well known all over, and just,
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You know, even what god has done within our ministry,
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A bit of ministry for over 15 years,
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And for the longest time, nobody knew my name, nobody knew
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The things that we did with the ministry.
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I mean, there were many times we walked by faith.
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We had nothing. we had no money like we were.
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We were still serving sweeping floors and taking out the trash.
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And so you can be anointed and god will tell you,
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Take out the trash.
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And i think the problem is now, because everything is a
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Platform,
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We're
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Searching for that, for validation.
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I need a platform to speak about identity, a need.
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I need this to validate who i am.
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I need to have a certain amount of following.
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I need to make sure these people like it.
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Because, you know, like even being grounded,
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This is be
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If i can be truthful here, like even being grounded
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And humble two seasons with the lord,
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You still have to fight
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Your flesh on constantly looking at numbers,
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Constantly looking at reach and not criticizing yourself.
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You could see 99 good comments in that one.
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Negative comment stays in your head all week.
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You know, like when you're looking for validation
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From the world, it will drive you mad, he'll drive you crazy.
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And we got to talk about it too.
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And i think you've already mentioned,
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That there's times where you just
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You keep distractions off your phone.
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You told me that today, that you keep distractions
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Of social media off your phone
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So that you can focus on what god is telling you to focus on.
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I think that's brilliant.
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Yeah, i don't have all right.
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Instagram on my phone right now.
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I haven't had tiktok on my phone in years. really? yeah.
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I took a youtube studio app off of my phone
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Because it was unhealthy for me
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To keep looking at the analytics of every stinking video.
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I'm not saying i'm
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Not on instagram, i am on instagram,
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But i have an ipad, a big old business ipad.
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That's the big one that that like, i like.
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It's just when you're
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When i'm on that to go on instagram,
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Like it's like, oh, i'm, i'm here to do instagram.
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I'm not gonna, you know, aimlessly
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Doomscrolling or just scrolling through. yeah.
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And i end up that, that creates just a, a boundary.
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And then if i need to like, check my dms on instagram,
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I'll just go through the browser.
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But that creates that little bit of friction
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To make me not just passively on there.
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Yeah.
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So i think, all these things like we gotta have
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Those boundaries with the tech, you know?
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No, no notifications on really.
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Often my phone's on do not disturb, you know,
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Because that i could actually focus on the work.
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Yeah, yeah.
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That's good. i think for me, too, it's like
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I don't i every now and then i'll skim through comments.
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But i really don't read many, many comments.
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Every now and then i'll look through them.
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But i don't read every single comment
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Because otherwise you're gonna
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You're gonna see negative comments,
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Even if there's tons of good ones out there.
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And then you start,
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Like i said, you start to get your validation from that.
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Well, you're
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Also posting sermon clips, which are generally like,
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I mean, it's not like you got these hot
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Takes on cultural events and all.
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It depends on the topic.
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Yeah,
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But some of your stuff is pretty like uplifting
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And encouraging. yeah, when i'm watching your stuff.
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So it's all imagine negative comments for what you do.
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Now imagine if you're trying to actually talk
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About something that's that's polarizing.
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That's going to be tough for people to process.
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Like, oh man, those comments and edit
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The they're the least charitable.
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Yeah, yeah. those are the least charitable.
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Those are like, hey, i disagree with you on this.
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It's like,
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Hey, man, you're this and you're a puppet of this
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And you're really getting paid by these people.
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Like, is darnell the conspiracy?
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Yeah, he's probably part of the illuminati. yes.
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Christian illuminati. oh, yeah. yeah. all that.
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Well, man, that's,
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I really like, and again, it's kind of a deep question.
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It's more just to have the discussion
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When it comes to the
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Abrahamic thing, because also i feel like for me personally,
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Yeah, there was a time where i dove in and served
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And my attitude, everything about me changed.
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But it was still,
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At least in my experience, it was still really hard to find
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Somebody to invest with in me
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And my wife in the ministry moving forward.
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And i feel like i had one of those about.
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I used to be embarrassed of it because people
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Would ask me all the time, who is your mentor,
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Who poured into you for you to be able to do this today?
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And i would talk to my wife and it's like i felt like i did
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Have a name, a name.
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And for me, it gave me clarity.
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One day i told my wife, we're both in unity on this.
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Like god spoke to us.
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And it was just that abrahamic kind of calling, like,
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I'm actually calling you
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From everything you knew to change what was.
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We had a discussion today about our children.
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You got a beautiful family, by the way, bro.
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And, as do you. thank you, thank you.
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And so lately, like, when i travel,
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I'll bring my oldest son. he's 13.
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That's the coolest thing ever.
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It is exciting because when we're on a plane,
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Like, he's super excited.
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He's like the best thing in his life is deep
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Pretzels on a plane, you know, like,
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So every moment is really fun.
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But he also wants to be a pastor one day.
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And so like, it's cool to see what god is doing in his life.
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And so god has changed.
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Like my family.
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Again, i don't come from ministry,
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And i think one of the reasons i wanted to have this discussion
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Is maybe just to motivate others watching this
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Who feel called by god but don't even know where to start
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Because they don't have that.
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My dad was a pastor story.
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They don't have that.
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Like i've been serving in the church since i was seven,
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You know, like they came from something rough,
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Some dysfunction, a lot of criticism
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To get where they are today.
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And god can still use
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You like he's still calling you to change,
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You know, the generations to come.
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He he breaks generational curses.
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In fact, i love this in first corinthians
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Chapter one, verse 27.
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It states like this.
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But god chose the foolish things
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To shame the wise in this world.
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Thank you jesus.
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Come on, because i was faithful this and still am to this day.
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Like it's like but but in a different way.
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I don't feel smart enough.
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I mean, i don't feel sometimes like i'm equipped enough,
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But that's the biblical stories that we read,
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You know what i mean?
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Like, people overlook david.
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They threw joseph in a pit.
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Abraham probably seem crazy to his family.
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Even the brothers of jesus try to stop him at certain times.
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So when it comes to godly ambition,
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Keep focusing on the lord.
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Keep pursuing.
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It really doesn't matter where you came from.
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God changed all that.
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And that's why i love your story so much.
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And that's what like because here's,
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A major topic of your book, and i
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And i believe this is where clarity comes in.
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How do people keep the balance with ambition?
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Yeah.
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Meaning i this took off, let's say social media.
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Social media took off.
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How do i keep balance so that it doesn't become about me.
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It becomes about god.
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What are some practical things you could do?
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So i think one physical does a responsibility
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That every single person has, especially men,
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They believe were called to be
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The priest, provider and protector of our homes.
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Right.
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First timothy five,
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Says that, you know, a man who is not provide
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For the needs of his family, specifically,
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His immediate family is worse
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Than an unbeliever, and it's not your faith.
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So i think there is a mandate that every man
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Has to to figure out a way to provide the problem.
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I'm starting to see i'm not sure if you've seen any.
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This is that sometimes people will get a pop on social media
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And then like their personal life is in disarray.
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Their financial life is in disarray
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Because they're thinking that like, oh,
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If i just get followers and i'll make money
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And it's like, bro, that's not how any of this works.
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Yeah, right.
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None of this works that way.
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And so what how i break it down is two different buckets.
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Bucket number one, every single person
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Has to work to eat.
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That's for today.
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You got to figure out a way to make sure like man the
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The bare bones food, shelter, clothing.
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Yeah. transportation is taken care of today.
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Yeah. right.
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That's what's in front of you right now.
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Whatever your assignment, that might be a job
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That that might be going to college.
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What is the assignment for you right now?
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You need to work to eat right now.
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The second bucket is
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You have to learn to sow to reap for the next season.
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And so if someone's getting something off
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The ground, odds are you got that first pop you got you
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Got you hit that first million views on a video.
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But odds are you're that you're actually sowing
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For the next season
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To figure out a way to build that thing into something.
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And and the tricky part is people
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Then will think that, man, i could suck at my day job
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And i could be mediocre and i could be average.
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And then, like,
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I'll just flipped a switch for my side
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Hustle will make it my main hustle overnight like that.
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And it's like, bro,
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How you do anything is how you do everything.
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Yes, if you if you suck as an employee right now.
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Guys, i got to breathe on this thing
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Over here because even if you were,
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You were you won't be able to handle it.
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And so it's like this, this tension where it.
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Man, every single person
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Needs to do the basics of providing, protecting.
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And we're looking
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At the next season because we're planting fruit,
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Planting seed today to produce
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Fruit in a year, two, three, five years from now.
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Right. and that's the i think the tension in that.
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Now, how do we how do we anchor that?
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I think you anchor that in these frameworks. right.
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One of the frameworks is like, man, you got to
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You got to provide you got to figure it out.
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Like, damn, i mean you got to go drive for uber lyft.
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Damn.
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I mean, you got to get on taskrabbit
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And start doing odd jobs. damn.
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I mean,
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You got to go wait tables like you were telling
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You were working at the dfw airport.
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I was even bible guy friday. waiter.
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Yeah, in the dfw airport. that was.
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Are you probably made better money
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As a waiter than you would have working a 9 to 5,
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And it gave you more flexibility to go about it.
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Yeah, yeah, i did right.
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I had to wear a really weird red apron.
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But yeah, yeah.
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I mean, so you were what you were,
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You were working to eat for the current season.
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You were in, you were sowing to reap.
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We're going to bible college for the next season. right.
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That is very hard for some people.
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Yeah.
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Like, like, it's like it's like, bro,
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You can walk and chew gum at the same time,
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Like you're going to be okay.
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Yeah. so i think like that.
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And now,
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Now let's go into the what one of the things
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That are popping up where what about when things are okay.
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Well so then we,
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We create these these frameworks or these anchors.
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So to every vise that can strip you and rob you, there's
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Also there's always a virtue.
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There's always something to combat that.
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So it's like man if you're worried about
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Greed the virtue to that's the antidote to greed is generosity.
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So if you're like, man, i don't know, bro.
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This thing might pop off. i might make too much money.
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Great.
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Like give, give, give it away.
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Give, give a lot of it away and have fun giving
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And give it regularly and give it consistently
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And give to your church
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And give to nonprofits and give to missions
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And give to give, give that single mom i give.
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Yeah, that's a great way to to to to,
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Anchor yourself away from greed.
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If you're struggling with pride. awesome. go serve.
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Go put on humility.
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Go practice.
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You're prideful man.
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There's nothing like serving the five and six year olds.
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There's nothing like serving little kids.
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When you're prideful, it's
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Very difficult to be arrogant and keep the attention on you.
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When you're trying to serve other.
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That's really good.
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That is that is so good.
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Because, you know, i think the killer of our calling
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Is always going to be comparing our life with somebody else.
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And so what you're saying right now,
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Because i always say like this, like if somebody
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If you feel like jealousy is coming into your heart
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Because somebody else is gaining something that you want,
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The weight overcoming is to pray for them
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And pray that god blesses them more
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Because you have to die to your flesh. that's right.
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You have to die to your flesh.
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But how would you say like as far as the comparison game
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I was, i was see about this the other day and,
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I didn't talk about it for a second.
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Two i was, i was thinking about like daniel.
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Right.
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And daniel was called in to the, to the palace.
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Nebuchadnezzar.
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And the lord is using him at the same time.
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He's he's in the palace and,
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Being moved and speaking prophetically.
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Yeah. daniel is in the palace.
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And then what is it?
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About seven years later, ezekiel is now in babylon.
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Both are in captivity.
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Both are being used by god.
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The thing is, when the outside one's in the palace
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And one's in the mud,
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Speaking to the israelites that were in rebellion
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Completely and from the outside looking in,
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Would you not say like, that's one of those scenarios
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You would like, compare your life with him?
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Like, like,
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I don't know, the bible doesn't say this, but you wonder,
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Like, was ezekiel thinking like, why is daniel in the palace?
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And i'm out here?
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And so again, this is where we start to allow
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Compares comparing to start to kill our calling.
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Because you want to be at a certain place
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And do something specific that's not for you.
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So how would you like, how do you overcome,
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I guess, comparing yourself to other people,
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When you try really hard, your ambition is there.
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It's for the lord.
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But at the same time, like you
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Just noticing other things, how are you
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Blocked out i guess in your own heart.
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So then consume you? yeah. it's so good.
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So one, something interesting about what you described.
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I love that you connected daniel in ezekiel.
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I haven't heard a lot of people acknowledge that, but,
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Jeremiah was also a contemporary jeremiah, too.
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So those three were contemporaries,
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All while the children are eight children of israel
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And babylon, exiled, going through it's struggling. right.
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So yeah, i so in terms of comparison.
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So a couple of things i try to do
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Is i genuinely try to celebrate
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Other people's wins instead of criticizing them.
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So i'm genuinely looking for like man
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Named the person that's crushing it force frank.
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I'm just cheering force frank on, bro.
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I'm so happy for you, man.
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I'm celebrating them. i'm not.
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I am not looking to criticize folks that are winning.
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I'm looking to celebrate folks that are winning.
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So i'm always looking to celebrate that
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That level beyond
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That is, hey, collaboration and not competition, right?
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We're we're not competitors.
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We're colleagues and we're collaborators. right.
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And in the in, there are enough
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People out there to help an impact
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That you don't have to see it as this like zero sum
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Game of the day.
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Watch. bob, you're not going to watch my instagram video.
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I watch what it's like.
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No. yeah. no that it's it's good.
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People can watch a lot of stuff.
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Praise god the average american spends
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Seven hours a day watching stuff.
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Yeah, i like, listen, watch watching sermons or something,
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You know, like like i will they'll be fine, right?
00:27:17.800 --> 00:27:20.536
They'll they'll figure it out.
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It starts like the zero sum game. so yeah.
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So i would say i'm celebrating with with what i'm criticizing.
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I'm looking to collaborate before i'm trying to compete.
00:27:26.308 --> 00:27:29.411
And those are some of the frameworks that that
00:27:29.411 --> 00:27:31.580
That all those keep me humble and keep me anchored.
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And i'm not i'm not. yeah.
00:27:34.983 --> 00:27:37.519
I just i'm not trying to compete with people
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Because i genuinely am pumped for them.
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And i think what those two things have been super helpful
00:27:42.224 --> 00:27:45.127
For me to say, man, let me figure out ways to do that.
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And how can i help people?
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Like, is there something, is there something that they're
00:27:50.866 --> 00:27:53.202
Trying to figure out?
00:27:53.202 --> 00:27:54.169
Is there something they're trying to solve?
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Is there something that man, they're having issue
00:27:55.270 --> 00:27:58.474
With this aspect and whatever i'm i'm available in those ways.
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I always learn something, right?
00:28:03.679 --> 00:28:05.714
I always answer, so i just i'll give you an example.
00:28:05.714 --> 00:28:07.349
I had somebody come over and we had a great conversation,
00:28:07.349 --> 00:28:11.720
Fellow creator, and we had a great conversation.
00:28:12.654 --> 00:28:15.224
And he's asking the question and picking my brain
00:28:15.224 --> 00:28:17.392
And all this sorts of. and i'm just like.
00:28:17.392 --> 00:28:18.861
And he has more subscribers than i do, right?
00:28:18.861 --> 00:28:20.562
There's more. subscribe. like please, please.
00:28:20.562 --> 00:28:22.531
And then i did i then like in that like he start
00:28:22.531 --> 00:28:25.701
Showing me some of the stuff he works
00:28:25.701 --> 00:28:26.902
And then like he gave me three practical gems that we like
00:28:26.902 --> 00:28:30.739
Implemented that day on youtube that were so useful to us
00:28:30.739 --> 00:28:35.477
That he was there trying to help me.
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So sorry.
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I'm he's there trying to get help for me,
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But i'm getting help from them.
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And that's the beautiful part is like
00:28:42.751 --> 00:28:44.119
When there's a relationship, a community,
00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:46.221
Everybody's helping each other.
00:28:46.221 --> 00:28:47.289
It's like you think you got questions,
00:28:47.289 --> 00:28:49.091
You think you have answers for people.
00:28:49.091 --> 00:28:50.392
Really.
00:28:50.392 --> 00:28:51.226
You might have questions and really
00:28:51.226 --> 00:28:52.161
You might be on the other side of a unlock.
00:28:52.161 --> 00:28:53.662
You can still learn from other people, no matter.
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I feel like nobody's arrived.
00:28:55.898 --> 00:28:57.199
You know, to me, like sometimes we think we
00:28:57.199 --> 00:28:59.101
We've arrived because we got, you know, big building or this
00:28:59.101 --> 00:29:02.971
World wide reach or something like that,
00:29:02.971 --> 00:29:05.140
But you still you're still learning, you still growing.
00:29:05.140 --> 00:29:07.042
And we had a great conversation today
00:29:07.042 --> 00:29:08.577
Just talking about how powerful it is to have a group
00:29:08.577 --> 00:29:12.781
Willing to celebrate the wins with you. yep.
00:29:12.781 --> 00:29:15.818
And i think
00:29:16.151 --> 00:29:17.286
People need to hear, like, maybe it's through people.
00:29:17.286 --> 00:29:19.354
You know what i mean?
00:29:19.354 --> 00:29:20.022
Like, if it's three people,
00:29:20.022 --> 00:29:21.089
It's three people, but you need that.
00:29:21.089 --> 00:29:22.658
And so that's something like,
00:29:22.658 --> 00:29:24.526
Like i said, like god called my family out into the unknown.
00:29:24.526 --> 00:29:28.630
And it took some time.
00:29:28.630 --> 00:29:29.765
But like in this season, god really has
00:29:29.765 --> 00:29:32.801
Blessed me with great, godly friends
00:29:32.801 --> 00:29:36.071
That i can share success stories with.
00:29:36.071 --> 00:29:39.308
And they can share success stories with me.
00:29:39.308 --> 00:29:41.643
And we're rooting each other on.
00:29:41.643 --> 00:29:43.679
And it's so powerful.
00:29:43.679 --> 00:29:44.947
And you want to overcome like jealousy, man,
00:29:44.947 --> 00:29:46.782
Really root for your friend and be there for them.
00:29:46.782 --> 00:29:50.552
And you know, because you also don't know
00:29:50.552 --> 00:29:52.321
What they went through. like i said with ezekiel
00:29:52.321 --> 00:29:54.590
Could have been like, you know what?
00:29:54.590 --> 00:29:55.824
Daniel's in the palace.
00:29:55.824 --> 00:29:56.925
I'm not going to do this from lord
00:29:56.925 --> 00:29:58.393
Daniel also went through a lot with the palace and most likely
00:29:58.393 --> 00:30:01.296
He was castrated, so you know what i mean.
00:30:01.296 --> 00:30:02.831
Like, yeah, i wouldn't want to life.
00:30:02.831 --> 00:30:05.500
You know what, right? right. that's good.
00:30:05.500 --> 00:30:07.236
You don't know what somebody's been through.
00:30:08.136 --> 00:30:09.938
And so stuff the king.
00:30:09.938 --> 00:30:11.406
The comparing game like it is the killer of be calling.
00:30:11.406 --> 00:30:14.576
And you will you want to talk about being stuck in the past.
00:30:14.576 --> 00:30:17.212
Compare your life with everybody else. so never move.
00:30:17.212 --> 00:30:19.982
Because i always say it like this.
00:30:19.982 --> 00:30:21.049
You'll never step into a promise you don't believe.
00:30:21.049 --> 00:30:23.485
You have to believe it to be true
00:30:23.485 --> 00:30:25.120
In order to start to move by faith.
00:30:25.120 --> 00:30:28.190
And so you got to be willing,
00:30:28.190 --> 00:30:30.192
Able when god, you know, transitions things.
00:30:30.192 --> 00:30:32.594
And that's one more question i wanted to ask you like
00:30:32.594 --> 00:30:35.430
Is you have this godly ambition in your life,
00:30:35.430 --> 00:30:37.900
Like there's a big part of your story
00:30:37.900 --> 00:30:39.401
To where you know, you're still a christian rapper today,
00:30:39.401 --> 00:30:42.271
But is kind of gone a little towards more youtube.
00:30:42.271 --> 00:30:45.307
And there is a big transition and that.
00:30:45.307 --> 00:30:48.043
And so how would you kind of help somebody when they've had,
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This desire to be something?
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There's ambition,
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But now there's a little transition that's happening.
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Yeah.
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I think being afraid to pivot
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Is one of the worst mindsets to have.
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Often it isn't the thing that we think it's going to be
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The it's it's the thing that leads to the thing.
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Yeah. right.
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And so it's like i thought i was going to be
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A famous christian rapper for jesus.
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Yeah. in hindsight, i'm kind of glad it didn't work out.
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That way.
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You know, i'm like, man, i actually enjoy this much more.
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And i still get to incorporate music
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And i still get to have fun and do my my musical stuff.
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And yeah, but i'm glad that it didn't work out that way in the.
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And i think that's because god had better plans
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That were more custom fitted for me.
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That's good. right.
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And so i think like, man, don't be afraid to pivot.
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Like if you start and you're like, man,
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I'm going to i got to be this guy.
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I got to be this.
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And it's like, you don't know what could be
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On the other side of that.
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You know, you you don't know what can be developed
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When you just maintain open hand mentality with your giftings.
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And i think that's the part is like people,
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Because our identities are anchored
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On our preconceived notions,
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Then we believe, oh, it has to go this way.
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If it doesn't go this way that i failed,
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If i'm not the best at this, then i failed.
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And it's like, it's like,
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It's like the ricky bobby syndrome, right?
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Like, you remember ricky bobby,
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And he's like, if you're not first or last. yeah.
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And then at the end of the movie kept saying,
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And then the end of the movie, someone goes,
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Ricky, that's stupid.
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You could be second, third, fourth, fifth.
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Like, that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard.
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I think it was his dad that said it to him.
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Like, if you're not first, you're less.
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He has ingrained in him the whole movie.
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You're not first, your last. and then he goes, that's dumb.
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You reset third, fourth, fifth.
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Right.
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It's so it's like
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We think that man, in order
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To be successful, you got to be first.
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You got to be the best.
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And the reality is not you can be like
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Top 10%, top 20% and like 5 or 6 different things.
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And then that positions you uniquely
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In in the marketplace to help as many people
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As possible solve their problems.
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Awesome, awesome.
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I'd say, well, one last question for you,
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Because when it comes to identity,
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I think we can all agree.
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Looking at culture,
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Looking at the world,
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You know, satan is truly attacking our identity
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And who we are, especially within jesus,
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Just who we are in general.
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There's a lot of confusion out there.
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Ephesians six 1012 talks about a spiritual fight.
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So why would you say the devil was fighting so hard
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To attack the identity?
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When it comes to godly ambition, okay,
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But especially the identity of the next generation rising
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Up right now,
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I'd like to believe
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That we're on the precipice of something different.
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I like to believe if we're not already in it,
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And it's hard to gauge,
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But i'd like to believe that, like, man, maybe, just maybe,
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There's another great awakening happening in america.
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I believe that, and i'm seeing it.
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I really believe that's what's happening right now.
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And if that's the case, then like,
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How do you cut that from underneath itself?
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Well, you you, you, you cut the legs of the young people.
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You go after the young people because those are the people
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That seem to be the most jesus curious and jesus interested.
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I think they just released data. i forgot who it was.
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I think i got i don't remember who the quote was.
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So people were like, where'd you get the data from?
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But i think it's the first time in modern history
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Young men are out attending church compared to young women.
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It's the first time in modern history.
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So it's like we always
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Say, man, you get the men, you get the families, right?
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And like, we're getting the men like the men are showing up.
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How amazing is that?
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And so i think the devil
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Is scrambling and confused and trying to go after people.
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I like to believe that there's something on the other side
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Of whatever that this does real weird hyper polarization, death
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Purity spiral.
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If someone's not perfect,
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They can't be good mindset that people have.
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It's a lot of all or nothing binary thinking, you know.
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So even the like this fascination of charlie
00:34:36.304 --> 00:34:37.973
Kirk, it's like, man, the dude is either,
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You dfi him or you demonize him and it's like that.
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Or you just say, man, i do love the lord.
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He's a good husband, good father.
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He's doing his best. he wasn't perfect.
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But like, that is really tragic what happened to him.
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And man, people coming to church because of that.
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Praise the lord.
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People coming to church. clearly there's a revival.
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Clearly there's something happening.
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Praise the lord.
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And so it's like, but no, like that issue you take
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That is just like, no, either charlie was
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He was he was a bad guy.
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He was, you know, it's
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Like the weird is all or nothing thinking. yeah.
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And i think it's becoming pervasive
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At scale and
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I'm concerned for it at the same time.
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There seems to be a line in the song and the sand drawn.
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Yeah.
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And it seems like, hey, man, like you're
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Either with the light or we were with the dark.
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You can't play around anymore. i can't play around anywhere.
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You got, you got, you got to pick a side.
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Yeah, you got to pick.
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And that's not to backdoor
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Everything on the right or everything
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As being a conservative or whatever.
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Like, like that's the.
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That's why i'm also not saying that
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Because people would be like, well, what about
00:35:32.194 --> 00:35:33.395
What about this? what about this?
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Like, yeah, no, i'm, i'm intentionally also
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Calling out whatever foolishness i see in my own team.
00:35:37.432 --> 00:35:40.468
Yeah. because i think you're supposed to call your own foul.
00:35:40.468 --> 00:35:43.405
Yeah. right.
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Like if we're hooping and i and i foul you and it's like, man,
00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:48.310
I almost hurt you like i'm supposed to stab me.
00:35:48.310 --> 00:35:49.778
Like, well, my bad, i fouled you. are you okay?
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Yeah.
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I'm not supposed to act like nothing happened. yeah, right.
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And so i think we got to learn to call our own foul.
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And so but in, in that in that. yeah.
00:35:56.484 --> 00:35:58.220
I think the macro is like, man
00:35:58.220 --> 00:35:59.087
I think the lord's doing something.
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Oh yeah. and it's exciting.
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And i keep trying to tell the people in the churches
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This is not going to happen over screens.
00:36:05.927 --> 00:36:07.796
This is not going to happen in arenas or stadiums
00:36:07.796 --> 00:36:10.398
Is going to happen in your in your in your living room.
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It's going to happen at your dinner table. it's good.
00:36:12.968 --> 00:36:14.569
These people need to be discipled and,
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And and
00:36:16.137 --> 00:36:16.972
Like you as a pastor, can't disciple
00:36:16.972 --> 00:36:18.073
Every single person in your church. yes.
00:36:18.073 --> 00:36:20.575
It's just impossible. can you say that louder? yeah.
00:36:20.575 --> 00:36:22.377
You can't like like that. loving. like.
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Yeah, like like like ephesians.
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You know. hey, you got calls.
00:36:26.681 --> 00:36:28.950
Apostles, pastors.
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What about pastors? pastors, prophets? evangelists,
00:36:30.285 --> 00:36:34.089
To equip the
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Saints for the work of the ministry.
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So pastors and elders are here
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To equip the saints for the work of the ministry.
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They're not here to do everything.
00:36:46.334 --> 00:36:47.369
It's not all on the pastors
00:36:47.369 --> 00:36:49.704
Position or job to do all the ministry.
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And i would i mean, i'm this might be controversial.
00:36:52.240 --> 00:36:54.609
I would say if they're doing everything,
00:36:54.609 --> 00:36:56.578
They're not doing a good job.
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Now, that's just no way know have been the saints. yeah.
00:36:57.746 --> 00:37:00.115
It's what we called to do. yes.
00:37:00.115 --> 00:37:01.149
And we see acts. i believe it's act six there.
00:37:01.149 --> 00:37:03.652
The dispute raises up amongst the widows
00:37:03.652 --> 00:37:05.720
And who the food distribution. and they delegate that.
00:37:05.720 --> 00:37:08.523
And they said we're going to devote ourselves to prayer.
00:37:08.523 --> 00:37:11.026
The ministry of the word, one of my favorite verses,
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Because i believe if you were just to read it,
00:37:13.328 --> 00:37:16.498
It would almost sound arrogant,
00:37:16.498 --> 00:37:17.966
Like if i were to get on stage and say, look,
00:37:17.966 --> 00:37:20.268
I am a busy pastor, i need to study the word.
00:37:20.268 --> 00:37:22.604
I don't have time for a food ministry.
00:37:22.604 --> 00:37:25.140
A lot of people would probably leave the church,
00:37:26.074 --> 00:37:27.942
But that's exactly what they
00:37:27.942 --> 00:37:29.177
Said. they weren't being arrogant,
00:37:29.177 --> 00:37:31.546
They were actually being obedient.
00:37:31.546 --> 00:37:33.815
And then if you look at one
00:37:33.815 --> 00:37:34.916
Of the very first names, one of the first deacons,
00:37:34.916 --> 00:37:37.052
Pretty much servants that they call out is stephen.
00:37:37.052 --> 00:37:39.621
And then you find out with stephen
00:37:39.621 --> 00:37:41.289
The stoning of the first martyr of the new testament.
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And we see this man of god right there.
00:37:44.092 --> 00:37:45.660
And so but that's what we're called to do.
00:37:45.660 --> 00:37:47.562
We're called to equip others.
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And so yeah.
00:37:49.064 --> 00:37:50.532
And as the body of christ coming together,
00:37:50.532 --> 00:37:52.100
This is how we protect our identity.
00:37:52.100 --> 00:37:53.968
And we need truth every day.
00:37:53.968 --> 00:37:55.470
And i think
00:37:55.470 --> 00:37:56.304
I think what we're also seeing like
00:37:56.304 --> 00:37:58.239
Like i said, you can't play around anymore.
00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:00.041
You can't be like one fit
00:38:00.041 --> 00:38:01.042
With the world, one foot in with jesus.
00:38:01.042 --> 00:38:03.445
Because we need truth more than ever.
00:38:03.445 --> 00:38:06.147
Because we are living in a world full of lies.
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Satan is a liar.
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He is the father of lies.
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And so we need the truth of god's word to guide us.
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And there is something special happening right now.
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And so i want to thank you again
00:38:20.895 --> 00:38:21.996
To for first of all, for being here.
00:38:21.996 --> 00:38:23.732
What an honor to have you, bro, for having me.
00:38:23.732 --> 00:38:25.433
I've been watching you for years,
00:38:25.433 --> 00:38:26.501
So it's cool to have you here. your books are amazing.
00:38:26.501 --> 00:38:28.970
And so i guess to end it, like,
00:38:28.970 --> 00:38:31.072
What would you say to somebody right now struggling with
00:38:31.072 --> 00:38:34.876
Wanting to have godly ambition and try to figure that out?
00:38:34.876 --> 00:38:37.612
What would how would you encourage them?
00:38:37.612 --> 00:38:39.414
I would tell him to buy
00:38:39.414 --> 00:38:40.548
The book, buy the book, buy the book, read the book,
00:38:40.548 --> 00:38:43.251
Get the audible.
00:38:43.251 --> 00:38:44.285
If you have trouble reading the listen to it.
00:38:44.285 --> 00:38:45.687
I would say yeah one. read the book.
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Invest in yourself.
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Don't don't
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Don't just think it's going to come easily or naturally.
00:38:50.458 --> 00:38:52.994
I would say if you do what is easy,
00:38:52.994 --> 00:38:55.630
Generally speaking, your life will be hard.
00:38:55.630 --> 00:38:57.499
So if you take
00:38:57.499 --> 00:38:58.600
The road of least resistance, you avoid hard things.
00:38:58.600 --> 00:39:01.069
Man, your life is going to be hard later, right?
00:39:01.069 --> 00:39:03.671
If you do it as hard
00:39:03.671 --> 00:39:04.839
Now, generally speaking, your life will be easy later.
00:39:04.839 --> 00:39:08.943
Generally speaking, i understand tragedy could happen.
00:39:08.943 --> 00:39:11.746
I understand sickness and cancer and all those things are good.
00:39:11.746 --> 00:39:14.349
However, i think i think that principle like do it is easy.
00:39:14.349 --> 00:39:17.886
Life will be hard,
00:39:17.886 --> 00:39:19.120
Do it as hard, life will be easy. and in that,
00:39:19.120 --> 00:39:21.589
Like i think there's a degree of self adversity.
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You get to choose, right?
00:39:25.026 --> 00:39:26.494
Like this is why fitness is good.
00:39:26.494 --> 00:39:28.463
This is why like doing hard things is good for you.
00:39:28.463 --> 00:39:31.599
Do hard things
00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:32.967
Because you got to choose
00:39:32.967 --> 00:39:34.302
Your suffering or later your suffering will choose you.
00:39:34.302 --> 00:39:36.638
If you don't choose adversity now, your body will break down
00:39:36.638 --> 00:39:40.508
Later. when you're old, everything is hard.
00:39:40.508 --> 00:39:42.143
Everything will you choose your hard?
00:39:42.143 --> 00:39:43.511
So you choose your hard. now choose a.
00:39:43.511 --> 00:39:45.180
I'm going to go hard now and i'm going to go.
00:39:45.180 --> 00:39:47.482
I'm going to do the hard thing now.
00:39:47.482 --> 00:39:49.484
I'm going to invest in my marriage. now.
00:39:49.484 --> 00:39:50.919
I'm going to invest and get financially free.
00:39:50.919 --> 00:39:52.954
Now i'm going to take care of my body.
00:39:52.954 --> 00:39:54.789
You do these things now.
00:39:54.789 --> 00:39:56.391
They become a part of who you are and later when you're
00:39:56.391 --> 00:39:59.661
50, 60, 70, you're going to feel much better.
00:39:59.661 --> 00:40:02.831
11 yeah, well thank you, brother, for being here.
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Thank you guys for tuning in today.
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I hope you enjoyed this podcast session.
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Can't wait to see you next time very soon.
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All right guys, that's all the time we have for today.
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But i pray that today's message bless your life.
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There is a reason you heard this word today.
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It's not by mistake.
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You're here for a reason and god has a plan for you.
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And listen, if you love this church
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Not only the nation, but the world.
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We're bringing the gospel of jesus christ
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Into everyone's home as much as we can,
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So that they know the love of god.
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If you want to hear more sermons as well, don't forget
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Bobby Chandler - Identity (Part 2)

November 24, 2025 | 42:14

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