Andrew, Benny, Nick, and Blake reflect on a powerful, transformative memorial service for the late Charlie. They share personal experiences from the event, highlighting moments of forgiveness, unity, and faith. Erica Kirk's act of forgiveness towards her husband's killer stirs deep emotions, showcasing the resilience and grace found in the face of tragedy. The team recounts the unprecedented scale and impact of the service, recognizing the spiritual and communal resonance that permeated the event. Together, they explore the profound legacy left by Charlie and the enduring message of hope and unity that emerged from the memorial.
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Charlie Kirk Today | Andrew Kolvet, Benny Johnson, Blake Neff, Nick Sortor: September 24, 2025 | Charlie Kirk Today | September 24, 2025
- Brought to you in part by the
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- International fellowship of christians and jews.
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- Benny,
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- I asked you here because i knew you were going
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- To have a lot to say, and i think it's very fitting.
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- You know what we did last week?
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- We had this amazing all star
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- Group of people that came in and honored charlie
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- By guest hosting the show alongside his team.
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- But i think it's very fitting
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- That you have the monday after that
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- Powerful, powerful memorial to his to his life and legacy.
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- So benny, the floor is yours.
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- Tell us what's on your heart.
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- What are you feeling?
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- The morning after?
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- Andrew i'm probably gonna spend the rest
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- Of my life processing what i experienced yesterday.
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- I couldn't sleep.
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- It's like you were buzzing last night.
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- There was so much kinetic energy in that room.
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- It was a revival.
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- Energy and helping assist and build.
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- Turning point usa.
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- And these events, over the last decade or so,
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- The magnificence of the team here.
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- And blake is here, obviously.
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- But blake is just a representation
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- You yourself as well
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- Of the architecture that charlie put forward.
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- There is no group on earth,
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- Political or otherwise, that could have pulled off
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- A 100,000 person
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- In person memorial,
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- Including the vast majority of cabinet secretaries,
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- Executive offices, governorships,
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- Members of congress, senators, world leaders.
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- Richest man on earth elon musk.
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- Arguably the most powerful private civilian on earth
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- Elon musk all in attendance yesterday.
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- It is an impossibility for nation states
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- To be able to pull that off.
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- Like small countries in europe wouldn't be able to do that.
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- They wouldn't get the permit to do it
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- With the full force of the
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- With the full force of the swiss government.
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- They couldn't pull that off.
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- What?
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- And i just want to, like, take a giant step back
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- And perhaps we have some, some imagery that the producers
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- Could play of the size of the audience,
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- The scale of the audience.
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- Not only were the rafters filled, not only were
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- Was the floor filled,
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- Where you don't wouldn't get that normally
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- In an nfl game or an nba game, right?
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- Or a professional hockey game,
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- The field is for the players, right?
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- And there's just a handful of them.
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- But also the behind the stage was filled.
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- Let me explain that.
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- These are people who are sitting.
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- Maybe you could see it right here.
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- These are people who are sitting
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- That can't see the program,
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- But they're still there to just stare at a wall.
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- There's an overflow room also that was
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- At near capacity, another minor league sports arena.
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- Yes, that that was at the desert.
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- Diamond.
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- It's the former nhl arena, and it was its neighboring
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- State farm stadium, and it was filled
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- The energy was
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- Unlike the super bowl, unlike a sporting event.
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- It was spiritual in nature.
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- It was so kinetic because the room was so packed
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- And so filled and as far as i could tell,
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- And i know, i know this actually, as a matter of fact,
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- Not a single window broken, not a single malt cocktail
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- Thrown, not a single fist ever thrown in anger.
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- No fights, no burning buildings,
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- No attacks on cops, no attacks on our nation.
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- Nothing but a peaceful memorial.
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- The largest, perhaps on earth, perhaps in american history,
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- Filled with prayer, mourning,
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- Forgiveness and a call for righteous justice.
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- That is the difference between two ideologies.
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- Two directions for western civilization,
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- And a profound,
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- Magisterial remembrance of charlie's legacy.
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- It is precisely as he would have wanted it.
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- And i want to
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- Dump just one more story in.
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- Because i was backstage,
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- I got to see a lot of interactions.
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- I got backstage, front stage.
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- I was seated amongst all the cabinet secretaries,
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- Got to see a lot.
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- Elon musk came by a couple times,
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- And i just want to use elon musk as a
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- As a example of the power of charlie's legacy.
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- Elon musk and donald trump.
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- Had a bit of a falling out.
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- Maybe you've heard of it.
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- And that sucked, especially
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- For guys like charlie who were coalition builders.
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- Charlie kirk was thanked on stage by donald trump himself
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- For bringing together rfk jr and maha movement.
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- Donald trump says charlie created maha.
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- I don't think charlie ever will get the credit
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- That he deserved for doing that.
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- But also charlie kirk brought together
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- Massive coalitions of well, at any turning point event,
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- You can find candace owens,
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- Ben shapiro and tucker carlson sharing the same stage.
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- Right?
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- Maybe not together, but they're all there, right?
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- To give an opportunity to to project their worldview, right?
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- Charlie was constantly doing that, constantly bridging gaps,
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- Constantly fuzing together because he realized
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- That if we don't hang together, we will surely hang
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- Separately, which is exactly what elon musk told me.
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- So backstage, elon musk embraces erica kirk
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- And she's crying in his arms and they're hugging.
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- And it's really profound.
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- This was after the speeches.
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- This was after the program.
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- And this is the words that elon musk said to
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- To us in the small little group with erica kirk.
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- And he said he said, like,
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- This is why i was proud to sit with my friend.
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- This is what he called trump, my president today.
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- He accepted trump's invitation to go up there.
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- And the majority of the event elon musk sent
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- Sitting there with donald trump chewing it up, everyone says
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- Can see the here's the photos of elon embracing erica.
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- And then there are photos of elon with trump.
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- And they seem to be having a great time.
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- Dana white also there,
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- What a not only was the size and scope of this
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- And the peacefulness of it, a profound eulogy for charlie
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- And his memory, but the cornerstone of it all
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- To unite the world's most powerful, richest,
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- Private civilian with the world's
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- Most powerful public figure, donald trump.
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- Charlie said in this chair
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- Right here, he hoped that it happened.
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- There's a clip that went viral yesterday, charlie, saying,
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- I pray.
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- I pray that elon musk and donald trump reconcile.
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- And they did so at charlie's funeral in charlie's memory.
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- A profound
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- And beautiful example of what
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- Charlie constantly was doing for our movement.
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- And he fuzed together the greatest schism
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- That we've seen in the in the nascent trump administration.
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- He just fixed trump and elon together.
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- We saw it live.
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- And it's like the power of charlie crying out,
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- I mean, after death
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- Crying out.
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- And like,
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- Still the power of charlie, like bringing together
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- These tectonic forces that that should not reconcile.
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- These are two stubborn men.
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- These are two men that don't need
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- Don't need each other, you know, honestly.
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- But it's. but elon musk told me this.
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- He hugs erica kirk.
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- He looks to all of us and he goes,
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- If we don't hang together, we will surely hang separately.
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- So let us unite.
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- I was proud to sit with my president tonight.
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- That's what elon told us.
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- That's what elon told us backstage.
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- In genesis
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- 12 three, god made a powerful promise
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- To abraham, the father of the jewish people.
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- I will bless those who bless you.
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- The christian bible tells us
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- That we have been grafted into god's family tree.
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- The rich olive tree of israel,
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- The very foundations of the christian faith,
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- The bible and jesus, whom christians call
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- The messiah, are deeply rooted in israel.
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- Supporting israel aligns christians with god's
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- Prophetic timeline.
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- It demonstrates our willingness to be instruments of
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- God's blessing, uplifting his chosen people,
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- And it calls us to confront and heal
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- The centuries old wounds of anti-semitism.
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- The scripture says how good and how
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- Pleasant it is when brethren dwell together.
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- Of bringing light to our world.
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- What do you think?
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- I mean, you were kind of observing.
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- I saw you a couple of times.
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- Blake was just kind of taking it all in.
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- And sometimes blake can be
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- Very kind of in your your thing you're doing.
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- And you were unusually sort of observant of the wider moment.
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- I saw you a couple of times.
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- What was it like for you, blake?
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- You know, i think,
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- The moment i think a lot of people
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- Who are, are going to remember is actually right at the start
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- Before any of the speakers come out.
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- It's just right at the beginning
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- Where they had all the different signs
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- That were color coded.
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- And i remember they they chose the signs very well.
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- It was like one of them was the,
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- You know, here i am, lord, send me another was the,
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- I think well done, my good and faithful servant.
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- Like they had they
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- They had a good selection of what was on the signs
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- And everyone just holding them.
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- The music is just the strings.
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- There's no one's singing or anything.
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- And it goes for.
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- Yeah, it felt like it was five plus minutes.
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- Everyone just sort of sitting there, like
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- Marinating in the moment.
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- And that felt very powerful.
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- I saw a lot of people cry.
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- I think i teared up during it.
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- And you had several moments of that throughout the night?
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- It was, entire event very rich
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- With, with meaning very rich with common feeling.
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- And i think everyone there is going to remember it
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- The rest of their lives.
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- Yeah.
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- And you were going around interviewing people, nick.
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- What were people telling you.
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- Well i mean
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- The first off it was really interesting
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- To me were the amount of people at turning point action
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- Yesterday was super busy
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- Going around registering voters
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- How people want to get involved.
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- These are people that,
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- That didn't really pay too much attention
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- To politics before.
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- Maybe they did casually, but now all of a sudden,
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- You know, this happened. it woke a lot of people up.
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- It scared them. it shook them to the core.
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- You know, i've been speaking to my mother as well.
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- Who?
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- She's been a lifelong democrat
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- Who loved obama when i was growing up.
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- And she called me and was, like, almost in tears
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- Because she didn't know charlie before.
- 00:10:48.773 --> 00:10:50.374
- She didn't know anything about charlie.
- 00:10:50.374 --> 00:10:51.576
- And then she started seeing all the clips.
- 00:10:51.576 --> 00:10:53.678
- She started seeing the highlights from him,
- 00:10:53.678 --> 00:10:55.947
- Doing these college tours and stuff.
- 00:10:55.947 --> 00:10:57.482
- And now she wants to
- 00:10:57.482 --> 00:10:58.583
- Get back into the church,
- 00:10:58.583 --> 00:10:59.650
- And she wants me to to start going with her.
- 00:10:59.650 --> 00:11:02.787
- And so she's like, i want to send you this.
- 00:11:02.787 --> 00:11:04.756
- This, i want to send you a bible i'm going to.
- 00:11:04.756 --> 00:11:06.691
- And it's just this unbelievable power
- 00:11:06.691 --> 00:11:09.994
- That charlie has unleashed
- 00:11:09.994 --> 00:11:12.697
- Posthumously on the world, bringing people closer to god.
- 00:11:12.697 --> 00:11:16.200
- I would say it's in the millions
- 00:11:16.200 --> 00:11:17.468
- Upon millions of people
- 00:11:17.468 --> 00:11:19.103
- That have now just gone to church
- 00:11:19.103 --> 00:11:20.772
- For the first time over the past couple of weeks,
- 00:11:20.772 --> 00:11:22.607
- Or have gone to church for the first time since,
- 00:11:22.607 --> 00:11:25.109
- I think, erica said,
- 00:11:25.109 --> 00:11:26.210
- Since as a child, have you ever heard
- 00:11:26.210 --> 00:11:27.678
- The most powerful leaders in the western world
- 00:11:27.678 --> 00:11:30.281
- All be apostles for christ on the same stage?
- 00:11:30.281 --> 00:11:34.252
- Thank you for that.
- 00:11:34.252 --> 00:11:35.319
- You never miss the big e, and this is the biggest.
- 00:11:35.319 --> 00:11:37.622
- This is the biggest apostolic event
- 00:11:37.622 --> 00:11:40.858
- Since the times of christ.
- 00:11:40.858 --> 00:11:42.093
- I believe i said there isn't some of the greatest
- 00:11:42.093 --> 00:11:46.364
- Reformation given that, you know, given technology
- 00:11:46.364 --> 00:11:50.101
- And given the number of people that can watch concurrently.
- 00:11:50.101 --> 00:11:52.537
- Right.
- 00:11:52.537 --> 00:11:53.538
- Christ can speak to thousands on a hillside,
- 00:11:53.538 --> 00:11:55.439
- But there's no way to, you know, there's
- 00:11:55.439 --> 00:11:56.974
- No way to digitally amplify it worldwide.
- 00:11:56.974 --> 00:11:58.943
- And given the number of people watching in south korea,
- 00:11:58.943 --> 00:12:01.579
- I mean, we probably will never get those numbers.
- 00:12:01.579 --> 00:12:03.481
- But i think it's probably fair to say
- 00:12:03.481 --> 00:12:05.216
- That this service was seen by billions
- 00:12:05.216 --> 00:12:09.253
- By the times, all said and done
- 00:12:09.253 --> 00:12:10.588
- And gone worldwide, at least pieces of it right?
- 00:12:10.588 --> 00:12:12.423
- Parts, snippets, videos and clips on social media.
- 00:12:12.423 --> 00:12:15.760
- Billions saw it, and there wasn't a single speech
- 00:12:15.760 --> 00:12:19.197
- That did not have christ at the center of the speech.
- 00:12:19.197 --> 00:12:22.433
- I believe that this and you should contact
- 00:12:22.433 --> 00:12:25.002
- The guinness book of world records.
- 00:12:25.002 --> 00:12:26.204
- This is most likely charlie's memorial service,
- 00:12:26.204 --> 00:12:30.141
- The single largest apostolic event in modern history.
- 00:12:30.141 --> 00:12:33.611
- Well, i don't know if you guys saw this.
- 00:12:33.611 --> 00:12:34.846
- Somebody tweeted out a photo of, you know, the monitors
- 00:12:34.846 --> 00:12:37.315
- For all the different news networks, every single major
- 00:12:37.315 --> 00:12:40.051
- News network in the western, world was tuned in live,
- 00:12:40.051 --> 00:12:45.122
- Not cutting to any commercials while these big speakers
- 00:12:45.122 --> 00:12:47.825
- Were going absolutely well.
- 00:12:47.825 --> 00:12:49.927
- And i will tell you,
- 00:12:49.927 --> 00:12:51.062
- I handle press for turning point events historically.
- 00:12:51.062 --> 00:12:53.497
- And so i sort of had to on top of a number of other things
- 00:12:53.497 --> 00:12:57.768
- That i was doing.
- 00:12:57.768 --> 00:12:58.569
- I and my team did an amazing job.
- 00:12:58.569 --> 00:13:00.338
- Shout out to aubrey.
- 00:13:00.338 --> 00:13:01.772
- You did a phenomenal job, aubrey.
- 00:13:01.772 --> 00:13:03.641
- Ladies, thank you so much for stepping up.
- 00:13:03.641 --> 00:13:05.409
- Aubrey is just one of those people that said, i want this.
- 00:13:05.409 --> 00:13:08.579
- I want i know you can't focus on this like you normally do.
- 00:13:08.579 --> 00:13:11.282
- I want to i want you to trust me.
- 00:13:11.282 --> 00:13:14.151
- And i said, okay, aubrey, it's yours.
- 00:13:14.151 --> 00:13:16.420
- Don't mess it up.
- 00:13:16.420 --> 00:13:17.555
- And she i got so many compliments on the job she did.
- 00:13:17.555 --> 00:13:20.491
- Just kind of playing orchestra, you know,
- 00:13:20.491 --> 00:13:22.960
- She was orchestrating the choir.
- 00:13:22.960 --> 00:13:25.062
- She was,
- 00:13:25.062 --> 00:13:26.297
- It was a really amazing job because there was so much press
- 00:13:26.297 --> 00:13:28.299
- Going on, and.
- 00:13:28.299 --> 00:13:29.233
- But this is what we heard from the venue.
- 00:13:29.233 --> 00:13:30.835
- Now, remember, the venue does super bowls.
- 00:13:30.835 --> 00:13:33.204
- They do special events all the time.
- 00:13:33.204 --> 00:13:36.007
- And i will tell you, they said this was more press
- 00:13:36.007 --> 00:13:38.609
- Interest from around the world, not just america
- 00:13:38.609 --> 00:13:41.045
- Than than the super bowl
- 00:13:41.045 --> 00:13:42.280
- Or any other special event they've ever been a part of.
- 00:13:42.280 --> 00:13:44.649
- And this, and i believe it is a very true fact to say
- 00:13:44.649 --> 00:13:47.585
- That the gospel was just proclaimed
- 00:13:47.585 --> 00:13:49.553
- To more people
- 00:13:49.553 --> 00:13:50.521
- In one singular event than in any other time
- 00:13:50.521 --> 00:13:53.491
- In human history.
- 00:13:53.491 --> 00:13:54.292
- And it makes me remember benny.
- 00:13:54.292 --> 00:13:56.294
- The verse three says,
- 00:13:56.294 --> 00:13:57.495
- Jesus says you will do even greater things than these.
- 00:13:57.495 --> 00:14:00.364
- It's not that we are greater than christ.
- 00:14:00.364 --> 00:14:01.766
- Christ is king,
- 00:14:01.766 --> 00:14:03.100
- But you will do even greater things than these.
- 00:14:03.100 --> 00:14:05.703
- And everybody who had a hand in yesterday's event was
- 00:14:05.703 --> 00:14:08.472
- Was a participant in those greater things.
- 00:14:08.472 --> 00:14:11.242
- Because, as you said, we have social media.
- 00:14:11.242 --> 00:14:13.678
- We have this ability to spread the message
- 00:14:13.678 --> 00:14:15.413
- So far and so wide, so quickly. right.
- 00:14:15.413 --> 00:14:17.548
- So truly amazing to be a part of that day.
- 00:14:17.548 --> 00:14:20.685
- It is hard to put
- 00:14:20.685 --> 00:14:21.986
- If you go to a lot of maga rallies and we've been to,
- 00:14:21.986 --> 00:14:25.623
- You know, hundreds and thousands,
- 00:14:25.623 --> 00:14:27.525
- It's safe to say we've been to some, you know,
- 00:14:27.525 --> 00:14:29.293
- How big the rallies are based on the size of the press.
- 00:14:29.293 --> 00:14:31.395
- Rafter and let me explain.
- 00:14:31.395 --> 00:14:33.230
- The press after yesterday was we were on a football field.
- 00:14:33.230 --> 00:14:37.101
- It was 30 yards deep
- 00:14:37.101 --> 00:14:39.103
- And the entire football field wide.
- 00:14:39.870 --> 00:14:42.907
- That's how much space was needed to simply handle
- 00:14:42.907 --> 00:14:46.377
- The number of cameras and on the ground reporters.
- 00:14:46.377 --> 00:14:49.580
- Is this correct? covered?
- 00:14:49.580 --> 00:14:50.748
- I mean, you'd have probably approved these dimensions.
- 00:14:50.748 --> 00:14:52.717
- Yeah.
- 00:14:52.717 --> 00:14:53.250
- The size of the press.
- 00:14:53.250 --> 00:14:54.485
- Rafter took up a considerable portion of the football field.
- 00:14:54.485 --> 00:14:56.954
- It was in order to get the amount of press
- 00:14:56.954 --> 00:14:58.923
- In that wanted to.
- 00:14:58.923 --> 00:14:59.724
- It was the biggest, press riser.
- 00:14:59.724 --> 00:15:01.292
- Anybody had ever seen.
- 00:15:01.292 --> 00:15:02.326
- And i talked to, you know,
- 00:15:02.326 --> 00:15:04.662
- President trump's team backstage.
- 00:15:04.662 --> 00:15:06.564
- I talked to our our physical production partners.
- 00:15:06.564 --> 00:15:09.633
- They've never seen anything like it.
- 00:15:09.633 --> 00:15:10.801
- Well, i talked to aubrey, actually,
- 00:15:10.801 --> 00:15:12.670
- Because that's where i got my press pass
- 00:15:12.670 --> 00:15:14.171
- From, and i saw the stack in front of her.
- 00:15:14.171 --> 00:15:15.973
- It was like this of just press passes,
- 00:15:15.973 --> 00:15:18.509
- And i'm like, my god, how many?
- 00:15:18.509 --> 00:15:19.677
- And she's like, it's in the hundreds.
- 00:15:19.677 --> 00:15:20.778
- Oh, and we had to cut just so everybody's aware.
- 00:15:20.778 --> 00:15:22.680
- We had to cut a lot because we originally were going
- 00:15:22.680 --> 00:15:26.083
- To be able to put some overflow press
- 00:15:26.083 --> 00:15:27.852
- Into the over, desert diamond arena or whatever.
- 00:15:27.852 --> 00:15:30.888
- And that ended up not being a possibility.
- 00:15:30.888 --> 00:15:34.325
- So so we could have we could
- 00:15:34.925 --> 00:15:36.527
- Have fit even more, in into the back and we just,
- 00:15:36.527 --> 00:15:39.930
- We fire marshall stuff, footprint stuff on the floor.
- 00:15:39.930 --> 00:15:43.100
- We had, we had to ultimately cut back.
- 00:15:43.100 --> 00:15:45.903
- So there was some, some press that didn't even get in.
- 00:15:45.903 --> 00:15:48.239
- But listen, we we got in the lion's share of the press and
- 00:15:48.239 --> 00:15:52.843
- To god be the glory for charlie.
- 00:15:53.544 --> 00:15:55.479
- We pulled it off.
- 00:15:55.479 --> 00:15:56.680
- The team didn't sleep.
- 00:15:56.680 --> 00:15:57.748
- And again, just what a testament
- 00:15:57.748 --> 00:15:59.550
- To charlie's legacy, his leadership
- 00:15:59.550 --> 00:16:01.452
- That the team rallied the way they did.
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- Joining me is benny johnson in studio,
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- Nick sauder and blake neff, the great blake neff.
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- Who's going to have some, i think some good insight here
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- In this next segment, we're talking about
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- Erica kirk and her powerful moment of forgiveness show.
- 00:17:52.797 --> 00:17:55.901
- The, i think it's 61.
- 00:17:55.901 --> 00:17:57.936
- Go ahead and throw up the, new york post cover.
- 00:17:57.936 --> 00:18:02.874
- I forgive him.
- 00:18:03.208 --> 00:18:04.142
- And that's erica
- 00:18:04.142 --> 00:18:05.010
- Being embraced, putting her head
- 00:18:05.010 --> 00:18:06.578
- On the chest of the president as he consoles her.
- 00:18:06.578 --> 00:18:09.581
- This powerful moment where she said, what?
- 00:18:09.581 --> 00:18:14.786
- For many, benny is the unthinkable.
- 00:18:14.786 --> 00:18:17.355
- I forgive this man who just robbed the world
- 00:18:17.355 --> 00:18:20.392
- Of a great hero and a titan of a man, our friend.
- 00:18:20.392 --> 00:18:24.329
- But i i'm very.
- 00:18:24.329 --> 00:18:25.997
- I'm very well aware that, yes, he was my,
- 00:18:25.997 --> 00:18:28.166
- You know, dear personal friend.
- 00:18:28.800 --> 00:18:30.669
- We spent so much time together,
- 00:18:30.669 --> 00:18:32.103
- But yet he belongs to the world.
- 00:18:32.103 --> 00:18:33.572
- He belongs to history.
- 00:18:33.572 --> 00:18:35.040
- And here erica is was doing this
- 00:18:35.040 --> 00:18:38.243
- Not out of a personal relationship,
- 00:18:38.243 --> 00:18:40.845
- You know, with her husband, but really, like,
- 00:18:40.845 --> 00:18:43.114
- Because she understands
- 00:18:43.114 --> 00:18:44.382
- That she is an instrument for god right now. yes.
- 00:18:44.382 --> 00:18:47.285
- And so she dug so deep and did this beautiful thing.
- 00:18:47.285 --> 00:18:51.189
- And it's created a lot of chatter online.
- 00:18:51.189 --> 00:18:54.159
- And i want to get into it now.
- 00:18:54.159 --> 00:18:55.393
- What's the clip guys. it's 1919.
- 00:18:55.393 --> 00:18:57.829
- Go ahead and play it
- 00:18:57.829 --> 00:18:59.564
- On the cross.
- 00:18:59.564 --> 00:19:00.298
- Our savior said.
- 00:19:00.298 --> 00:19:06.004
- Father, forgive them for
- 00:19:06.538 --> 00:19:09.241
- They not know what they do to
- 00:19:09.241 --> 00:19:13.612
- That man.
- 00:19:13.912 --> 00:19:17.048
- That young man.
- 00:19:17.415 --> 00:19:21.653
- I forgive him.
- 00:19:21.987 --> 00:19:39.738
- Erica, shared the christ,
- 00:19:40.305 --> 00:19:43.174
- One of the largest audiences maybe ever gather in human
- 00:19:43.174 --> 00:19:46.544
- And did the most christlike thing.
- 00:19:46.544 --> 00:19:48.079
- And that, again, the most apostolic event
- 00:19:48.079 --> 00:19:51.483
- In human history was that.
- 00:19:51.483 --> 00:19:53.918
- And i think that i'll, i if if you will allow me
- 00:19:53.918 --> 00:19:57.088
- A a lot of people are saying, well how dare trump want,
- 00:19:57.088 --> 00:20:00.659
- You know,
- 00:20:00.659 --> 00:20:01.993
- Saunter on stage afterwards and say, no, i hate my enemies.
- 00:20:01.993 --> 00:20:06.064
- I'm gonna kill my enemies like i hate them.
- 00:20:06.064 --> 00:20:08.466
- I want them to burn. right?
- 00:20:08.466 --> 00:20:09.934
- Because trump went on and did that right in his own
- 00:20:09.934 --> 00:20:12.170
- Way, trump bravado and said, oh, i hate my enemies.
- 00:20:12.170 --> 00:20:15.807
- I don't know how erica can do that.
- 00:20:15.807 --> 00:20:17.342
- I want to take an opportunity
- 00:20:17.342 --> 00:20:18.510
- To just say from a christian perspective
- 00:20:18.510 --> 00:20:21.146
- And look at this from a biblical perspective,
- 00:20:21.146 --> 00:20:23.648
- Because what was demonstrated in both those speeches,
- 00:20:23.648 --> 00:20:26.017
- Represented by, obviously erica,
- 00:20:26.017 --> 00:20:27.752
- But then represented by stephen
- 00:20:27.752 --> 00:20:29.321
- Miller, did a great job at this.
- 00:20:29.321 --> 00:20:30.789
- Donald trump did a great job of the secretary.
- 00:20:30.789 --> 00:20:32.424
- War did a great job of this
- 00:20:32.424 --> 00:20:33.925
- Is the personification of romans 13, romans 13.
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- The apostle paul,
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- Who's very familiar with martyrdom,
- 00:20:39.064 --> 00:20:41.066
- Was there at the martyrdom of stephen
- 00:20:41.066 --> 00:20:42.901
- That actually brought him to christ, writes about a properly
- 00:20:42.901 --> 00:20:46.071
- Instituted government set up by god,
- 00:20:46.071 --> 00:20:49.074
- And that the government is there
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- To institute safety and security
- 00:20:51.476 --> 00:20:54.512
- For the good
- 00:20:54.846 --> 00:20:55.947
- And moral people of the nations that god has set up
- 00:20:55.947 --> 00:20:59.284
- The leaders of our land in order to do that.
- 00:20:59.284 --> 00:21:01.820
- And so god set up trump and his administration
- 00:21:01.820 --> 00:21:04.389
- To allow for security and family
- 00:21:04.389 --> 00:21:07.792
- Flourishing and for the prospering of good
- 00:21:07.792 --> 00:21:10.295
- And moral people, and that god gives the sword
- 00:21:10.295 --> 00:21:14.499
- To the leaders of our principalities
- 00:21:14.499 --> 00:21:16.935
- In order to enact these exact words terror
- 00:21:16.935 --> 00:21:20.705
- Within evil men, to bring terror upon evil men.
- 00:21:20.705 --> 00:21:24.976
- And he.
- 00:21:25.210 --> 00:21:26.411
- And that was what the trump administration represented.
- 00:21:26.411 --> 00:21:28.646
- That is pure christian doctrine.
- 00:21:28.646 --> 00:21:31.015
- That is fundamental christian doctrine
- 00:21:31.015 --> 00:21:32.951
- About the establishment of the government
- 00:21:32.951 --> 00:21:35.220
- So that the good may flourish.
- 00:21:35.220 --> 00:21:36.621
- Now, on a personal level, what erica showed
- 00:21:36.621 --> 00:21:39.657
- Was what we must do in our hearts
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- In order to absolve ourselves
- 00:21:42.427 --> 00:21:45.397
- And to follow in the christlike method of forgiveness,
- 00:21:45.397 --> 00:21:50.034
- In order to ensure that we are unburdened, actually by evil.
- 00:21:50.034 --> 00:21:53.571
- Evil happens to us.
- 00:21:54.038 --> 00:21:55.173
- We must unburden ourselves
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- By following through with the power of christ.
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- Erica shows that perfectly balanced,
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- Absolutely in perfect harmony by president trump
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- And his administration, saying that it is now incumbent upon
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- Us, the rulers of this land, to institute justice.
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- We do not have to forgive.
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- We must enact justice, swift and severe justice
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- Upon evil men so that they are in terror.
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- And that is perfectly, fundamentally harmonious
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- In the christian worldview.
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- I am i'm going to forgive as christ forgave me,
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- Because i will
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- Not let it get in the way of me being with charlie in heaven,
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- And i will not let it get in the way of me running.
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- Turning point usa and being the new leader of this movement.
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- And i, i just commend her for that because yes,
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- I even when i heard that my flesh, i felt my flesh
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- Like crawling because i didn't want her to forgive.
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- I wanted her to like get that fierce
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- Look in her eyes, you know, that she has.
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- Which is just amazing, by the way.
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- And i wanted her to look right in the camera and be like,
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- We are going, you know, give me one of the bullets.
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- And because utah still has, you know, what is firing
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- Firing squad.
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- Give her one of the bullets and let her shoot him
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- Right in the, you know, whatever.
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- Anyways, the point is, i wanted that.
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- My flesh wanted that,
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- But my spirit knew that the power you talked about,
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- If you don't give people a way to grieve in this, positive
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- Way, in a way that uplifts jesus, then it can turn dark.
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- And what she did is she took all of that energy,
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- And she flipped it on satan's head and said,
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- You are not going to win this one.
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- We are going to choose christ and god's love will
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- Be unleashed on this country.
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- The poverty is unimaginable.
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- There are people who are struggling.
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- Those who are hungry.
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- Forgotten jews.
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- Scripture says joy can come in the morning.
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- And you can be the reason.
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- Bless these hurting children of israel.
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