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Charlie Kirk Today | Andy Ngo: November 17, 2025 | Charlie Kirk Today | November 17, 2025
- Brought to you in part by the
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- International fellowship of christians and jews.
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- I'm andrew calvert,
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- Joined by mikey mccoy in the studio again.
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- We get you. like, was this the third time this week?
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- Yeah.
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- Yeah, yeah. so.
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- Blake is still on assignment,
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- Traveling the eastern seaboard.
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- So we're glad he could make it.
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- And thanks to our friends at real america's voice
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- Dc for making a home for for blake here today.
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- I want to get into i do i'm going to get into
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- This idea that they are listening to you there.
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- I think there was a sense
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- In the last couple of weeks that the administration was,
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- Messaging their messaging was off
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- That they weren't on on point, they weren't focused.
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- And i believe that we are seeing every single sign
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- That you could ask for that they are listening now.
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- Not more needs to be done.
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- I'm not this is not, you know, success moving on situation.
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- But i, i want to
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- I want to hammer at home because now there is multiple
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- Pieces of evidence that we can glean from
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- To show that there
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- Has been a messaging pivot, that they hear the concerns,
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- The consternation, the anxieties of the base,
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- The people that watch this show,
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- The people that watch war room before it, that listen to us
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- On the radio that they are hearing you.
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- And i think it's really, really important
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- That we give credit where it's due.
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- You can't just be a voice that is complaining
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- All the time without offering solutions,
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- Without, also giving praise where it's due.
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- And so i just want to say that so we talked a lot about
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- And i went on, bannon's war room yesterday,
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- Charlie had given a six point, you know, checklist.
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- There was a punch list of what
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- We need to do to restore the social compact
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- With gen z, and that included mass deportations.
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- That included building 10 million homes, crushing
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- The college cartel, ending h-1b scam, ending
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- Diversity, visas and lottery,
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- And then also, dramatically reducing legal immigration.
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- Now, we're not on that one yet, but listen to this.
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- So so jd there it is.
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- That's the that's the tweet.
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- So listen this jd vance speaks with sean hannity.
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- And listen to this and tell me if you don't if you can't
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- Also confirm that they have in fact got the memo.
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- 353 a lot of young people are saying
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- Housing is way too expensive.
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- Why is that?
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- Because we flooded the country with 30 million illegal
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- Immigrants who were taken houses
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- That ought by right, go to american citizens.
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- And at the same time,
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- We weren't building enough new houses
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- To begin with, even for the population that we had.
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- So what we're doing is trying to make it easier
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- To build houses,
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- Trying to make it easier to build factories
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- And things like that so that people have good jobs.
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- We're also getting all of those illegal aliens
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- Out of our country,
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- And you're already seeing it start to pay some dividends.
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- So what are those dividends that we're seeing?
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- Blake, i want you to chime in here on this.
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- Let's go ahead and show. 346.
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- This is us.
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- Rent prices are declining.
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- We have three months in a row, marking
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- The steepest october decrease in 15 years.
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- So you see that on the right side
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- Of your screen for those watching on radio,
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- Listening on radio,
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- On the right side of the screen,
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- You see three months in a row where rent prices
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- Are decreasing.
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- Now, now, blake, this is not like this is not huge.
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- I think it's
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- What is it down to 0.31% month over month in october.
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- But that's the steepest october decrease in 15 years.
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- What do you make of this.
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- Yeah it's well so it's it's a decrease.
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- It's in rentals which i think i think we're flagging is
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- What have we complained
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- About so much over the last few years?
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- We've complained about illegal immigration.
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- We've complained about too much immigration.
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- And those people who are coming in
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- And who are coming in
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- As illegal immigrants, as guest workers, as low wage labor,
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- They're typically going into the rental market.
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- And so if we're seeing declines there,
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- That's probably an indication that,
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- You know, we recently had the news
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- That the foreign born population of the u.s
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- Is actually falling for the first time,
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- Basically in living memory.
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- And that's going to have an
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- Impact on the housing market,
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- Which has so consistently been able to count on
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- Just kind of an endless flood of new people from abroad.
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- And if we can lower the constant
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- Demand pressure on housing,
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- Which we've seen drive up prices in canada, in the uk,
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- In all a bunch of other countries,
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- We'll hopefully get lower rental prices
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- And that will translate
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- Over time into lower prices for normal entry level home.
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- All of,
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- You know,
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- Housing kind of all flows together
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- In terms of its impact on prices.
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- And i think we're, we're seeing that now.
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- Yeah.
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- And i think you to your point, i think we've seen,
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- Approximately 2 million, maybe slightly more,
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- Deportations and self-deportation asians.
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- So we have we are actually have less people
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- In the continental us than we had
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- At the beginning of trump's presidency, which is huge.
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- And that
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- That isn't despite the fact that we're still allowing for 1
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- To 1.2 million new green cards that are legal
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- Immigrants to the country every year,
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- A number that i think
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- Should be at least in half, if not a full moratorium.
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- I would be totally down with a full moratorium.
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- But it's not just it's not just surging
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- New homes where the admin is listening to us.
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- Let's play.
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- 364 this is harmeet dhillon, assistant attorney general.
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- She's in the civil rights office.
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- And she saw all of the chaos, all of the violence that
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- Came out of uc berkeley.
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- And i want to give
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- Her kudos here because she's actually taking the initiative,
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- And she's going after these thugs that targeted
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- Our turning point usa event at uc berkeley.
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- Play cut.
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- 364 antifa is a terrorist organization.
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- The chapter here is called by any means necessary.
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- I've sued them.
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- I've been involved with them as well.
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- But there's also uc berkeley is legally on notice
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- Based on the prior litigation and the settlement
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- About this exact type of event.
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- And third, at the civil rights division, we're
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- In charge of how the police treat the citizens.
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- And the police in berkeley seem to think this is kind of a
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- Sport or a joke.
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- Equal protection under the constitution requires
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- That you treat citizens equally,
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- Including if you don't agree with their viewpoints.
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- And so at all three levels and maybe more.
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- We have some serious problems.
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- And and we're going to be
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- Deeply engaged in illegal action here.
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- I suspect very soon.
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- And not only that, and you got to remember the,
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- The the gentleman that,
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- Pulled the trigger and assassinated our friend
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- Charlie kirk had bella chow and.
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- Hey, fat fascist,
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- Catch on bullet casings that authorities collected.
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- This is antifa.
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- These are antifa slogans. this is this.
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- You know, i'm not saying he was a card carrying member.
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- I'm saying that these ideology
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- Spread, they're decentralized and.
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- Go ahead and throw this up.
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- This is, 352
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- Marco rubio, state department secretary of state, designated
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- Antifa as a foreign terrorist organization.
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- And now we're going to bring in
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- Andy know, who is probably the most accomplished,
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- Longest running journalist in the space, covering antifa
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- In all its different permutations and, geographies.
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- And he's going to explain why this is important
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- From a legal standpoint, because as you as
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- He will explain, there is one thing to sign
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- An executive order designating antifa
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- As a domestic terror organization.
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- But this unlocks extraordinary legal powers
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- When you're able to say, hey, they're a foreign terrorist
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- Organization as well.
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- In genesis
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- 12 three, god made a powerful promise
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- To abraham, the father of the jewish people.
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- I will bless those who bless you.
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- The christian bible tells us
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- That we have been grafted into god's family tree.
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- The rich olive tree of israel,
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- The very foundations of the christian faith,
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- The bible and jesus, whom christians call
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- The messiah, are deeply rooted in israel.
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- Supporting israel aligns christians with god's
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- Prophetic timeline.
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- It demonstrates our willingness to be instruments of
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- God's blessing, uplifting his chosen people,
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- And it calls us to confront and heal
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- The centuries old wounds of anti-semitism.
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- The scripture says how good and how
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- Pleasant it is when brethren dwell together.
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- You can be part of this historic movement
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- Of bringing light to our world.
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- Learn more by going to ifc.
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- J.org today.
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- J.org today.
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- Blake, i want to get your reaction
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- To a clip because, again,
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- You have to give credit where it's due
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- When people are actually listening to you.
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- We have to
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- Not only be a squeaky wheel that gets the grease,
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- We have to say thank you for listening.
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- All right. this is steven miller,
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- Who i think just absolutely nailed it.
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- 375 we're focusing relentlessly on affordability.
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- So president trump is working to bring down the cost
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- Of living even more than he already has.
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- So thanksgiving meals are going to be 25% cheaper.
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- But president trump is not content with that.
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- He is fighting to bring down the cost
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- Of every single consumer and household goods and the tax.
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- There is going to be a huge part of this,
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- Because when we make life more affordable for our companies,
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- For domestic industry, for domestic manufacturing,
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- With 100% expensing,
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- With the largest tax cuts in history,
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- Then prices are going to keep coming down.
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- And proof. proof. blake i'll get right.
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- I'm sorry i decided i wanted to link two together.
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- 368 target is dropping prices ahead of the holidays.
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- The company announcing reduced costs on 3000 food,
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- Beverage and essential items starting this month.
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- Target is also bringing back
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- Its thanksgiving meal at its lowest price ever.
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- The deal gives customers a complete dinner
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- With all your holiday favorites for less than $5 per person.
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- So. i don't want to overreact to a specific target.
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- It's good.
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- I'm glad they're doing it, but it's.
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- It's one store.
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- I think
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- I'm more more optimistic about seeing the fall
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- In rental prices, which some people are saying.
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- Oh, that might be a concern, too.
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- And, you know, people have their leverage
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- Or you know, rental, you know, whatever.
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- But the point is, is like, what do people complain?
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- They've complained.
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- Prices are high.
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- So you want to look at the high level things.
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- What do they spend the most on
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- The biggest expense for the vast majority of people
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- Is their housing.
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- And right now, the cost to get a rental in
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- The united states is going down everywhere in the country.
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- In the long
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- Run, people will feel that the drop is actually not a lot.
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- But you know, we also have inflation.
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- So if you're holding,
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- Even if the price of housing is holding, even and
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- Inflation is going up a few percent a year,
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- That's effectively like a 3% cut in the cost of housing.
- 00:11:08.984 --> 00:11:11.920
- And people have seen it only go up for years
- 00:11:11.920 --> 00:11:15.023
- And years on end, especially since covid.
- 00:11:15.023 --> 00:11:17.326
- And i think we're seeing where once you stopped
- 00:11:17.326 --> 00:11:19.862
- The endless flood of demand into the country,
- 00:11:19.862 --> 00:11:23.532
- Things are getting better,
- 00:11:23.532 --> 00:11:25.134
- Things are getting more affordable.
- 00:11:25.134 --> 00:11:26.502
- Yeah, yeah, i agree with you, blake.
- 00:11:26.502 --> 00:11:28.237
- I'm actually more interested in seeing, rents drop.
- 00:11:28.237 --> 00:11:30.739
- But then also,
- 00:11:30.739 --> 00:11:31.907
- How many homes were building, interest rates dropping?
- 00:11:31.907 --> 00:11:34.409
- The biggest win for the economy
- 00:11:34.409 --> 00:11:37.546
- And for young people in general is just deportations,
- 00:11:37.546 --> 00:11:41.116
- 2 million plus deportations, self deportations.
- 00:11:41.116 --> 00:11:43.952
- This has a direct impact on costs going down,
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- On rent, going down on,
- 00:11:47.189 --> 00:11:49.825
- Affordability just in general in the united states.
- 00:11:49.825 --> 00:11:53.028
- But then also as a young couple,
- 00:11:53.028 --> 00:11:54.530
- There's something about buying a house,
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- Being able
- 00:11:56.665 --> 00:11:57.432
- To walk around your neighborhood
- 00:11:57.432 --> 00:11:58.400
- Safely with the, you know, back in your psyche,
- 00:11:58.400 --> 00:12:01.403
- Knowing that there's less illegals
- 00:12:01.403 --> 00:12:03.572
- Now, there's less criminals in this country now.
- 00:12:03.572 --> 00:12:06.341
- But then also back to this antifa.
- 00:12:06.341 --> 00:12:08.944
- I want to really praise harmeet dhillon
- 00:12:08.944 --> 00:12:11.580
- And also the fbi who put out the website for for tips.
- 00:12:11.580 --> 00:12:14.850
- We at the same time as we're deporting all these illegals
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- And criminals in our country,
- 00:12:19.121 --> 00:12:20.622
- We want to find the active criminals
- 00:12:20.622 --> 00:12:23.392
- That are part of antifa, and we're going to keep talking
- 00:12:23.392 --> 00:12:25.194
- About that later in the show.
- 00:12:25.194 --> 00:12:26.595
- But we want justice for that.
- 00:12:26.595 --> 00:12:29.031
- And i at the administration is on point
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- On multiple fronts with housing, deportations.
- 00:12:31.533 --> 00:12:35.103
- We'll think about it. think about it from this perspective.
- 00:12:35.103 --> 00:12:37.272
- You know, about a year ago, we were
- 00:12:37.272 --> 00:12:41.176
- I was targeting us.
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- Yeah.
- 00:12:44.213 --> 00:12:45.280
- You know, turning point usa was getting spied on.
- 00:12:45.280 --> 00:12:46.748
- Yeah.
- 00:12:46.748 --> 00:12:47.816
- And now the fbi is putting out tip lines to target to
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- To find, you know, antifa thugs.
- 00:12:50.719 --> 00:12:53.121
- Yeah.
- 00:12:53.121 --> 00:12:53.822
- That were attacking, assaulting
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- And trying to disrupt our event and uc berkeley.
- 00:12:56.425 --> 00:12:59.795
- Yeah.
- 00:12:59.795 --> 00:13:00.963
- And how fast they they came after the january 6th ers.
- 00:13:00.963 --> 00:13:03.799
- Well we're going to come after the real antifa criminals
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- Fast.
- 00:13:07.536 --> 00:13:08.303
- We're going to find each
- 00:13:08.303 --> 00:13:09.404
- And every one of you with geo tracking.
- 00:13:09.404 --> 00:13:11.940
- If you spit on our attendees, if you attacked our attendees
- 00:13:11.940 --> 00:13:15.377
- Like this is disgusting stuff that happened two months
- 00:13:15.377 --> 00:13:18.180
- After charlie's assassination at our event at berkeley.
- 00:13:18.180 --> 00:13:21.283
- They said, we're not going to stand for it.
- 00:13:21.283 --> 00:13:23.385
- We're very upset
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- And we want to see accountability and justice.
- 00:13:24.519 --> 00:13:27.489
- You know, like just real quick.
- 00:13:28.123 --> 00:13:29.758
- Actually, danny, on our team makes a good point
- 00:13:29.758 --> 00:13:32.861
- That according to the polls, you know, you're right.
- 00:13:32.861 --> 00:13:35.530
- Rent is probably a larger
- 00:13:35.530 --> 00:13:38.333
- Bucket of cost for the average person.
- 00:13:38.333 --> 00:13:41.270
- But from a pure polling standpoint, 378
- 00:13:41.270 --> 00:13:44.840
- You show this, it's bipartisan.
- 00:13:44.840 --> 00:13:46.508
- That the number one issue for
- 00:13:46.508 --> 00:13:47.609
- Most people is inflation, cost of living.
- 00:13:47.609 --> 00:13:49.478
- And that is, cost of goods, groceries, gas,
- 00:13:49.478 --> 00:13:54.149
- Those sorts of things
- 00:13:54.149 --> 00:13:55.284
- Tend to leave potentially a bigger emotional impact.
- 00:13:55.284 --> 00:13:59.221
- So for what it's worth, andy, no on
- 00:13:59.221 --> 00:14:02.024
- Antifa next.
- 00:14:02.024 --> 00:14:08.096
- Where are the tears from the pain.
- 00:14:08.830 --> 00:14:12.434
- The life that she lived.
- 00:14:12.434 --> 00:14:14.569
- She's a survivor of auschwitz.
- 00:14:14.569 --> 00:14:18.006
- The years that they would just beat her ears.
- 00:14:18.006 --> 00:14:20.776
- That she didn't have food and felt hungry.
- 00:14:20.776 --> 00:14:24.079
- And our answer is love.
- 00:14:24.579 --> 00:14:27.816
- Before, with a gift of only $25.
- 00:14:27.816 --> 00:14:31.019
- You'll deliver a life saving food box into the hands
- 00:14:31.019 --> 00:14:34.189
- Of an elderly jew in need.
- 00:14:34.189 --> 00:14:36.925
- I wasn't only saying people have a heart.
- 00:14:36.925 --> 00:14:39.928
- There are good people today.
- 00:14:39.928 --> 00:14:41.730
- Call, scan or go online now.
- 00:14:41.730 --> 00:14:44.499
- And the international
- 00:14:44.499 --> 00:14:45.634
- Fellowship of christians
- 00:14:45.634 --> 00:14:46.902
- And jews will rush your food box today saudi arabia.
- 00:14:46.902 --> 00:14:50.772
- This is a holy moment.
- 00:14:50.772 --> 00:14:52.541
- What you're doing is not simply being kind.
- 00:14:52.541 --> 00:14:55.944
- You are prophetically stepping into the scriptures
- 00:14:55.944 --> 00:14:59.781
- And being part of their redemption and our own.
- 00:14:59.781 --> 00:15:03.285
- Please call, scan or go online now.
- 00:15:03.285 --> 00:15:06.998
- Please call, scan or go online now.
- 00:15:06.998 --> 00:15:12.098
- I'm very excited about the next guest
- 00:15:12.898 --> 00:15:15.568
- That we're going to have on the show here.
- 00:15:15.568 --> 00:15:17.036
- And that is andy.
- 00:15:17.036 --> 00:15:18.371
- No, he's a reporter for the post millennial.
- 00:15:18.371 --> 00:15:20.639
- He's also the author of the book unmasked inside
- 00:15:20.639 --> 00:15:24.110
- Antifa his radical plan to destroy democracy.
- 00:15:24.110 --> 00:15:27.546
- And you can also check out his writings at no comment,
- 00:15:27.546 --> 00:15:30.349
- Which i think is great, but it's ngo comment.com.
- 00:15:30.349 --> 00:15:33.786
- It's his substack ngo comment.com andy know
- 00:15:33.786 --> 00:15:38.457
- Welcome to the charlie kirk show.
- 00:15:38.457 --> 00:15:39.725
- It's good to see you my friend.
- 00:15:39.725 --> 00:15:41.060
- Thank you so much for having me on.
- 00:15:41.861 --> 00:15:43.929
- It's been it's been a while.
- 00:15:43.929 --> 00:15:45.331
- I haven't seen you for for, many moons now, andy,
- 00:15:45.331 --> 00:15:48.534
- But it's great to see you and great to have you
- 00:15:48.534 --> 00:15:50.403
- And you've been doing tremendous work covering.
- 00:15:50.403 --> 00:15:53.973
- I mean, you've always done tremendous work covering in tv.
- 00:15:53.973 --> 00:15:56.475
- You've been one of the most
- 00:15:56.475 --> 00:15:57.676
- Fearless journalists about this.
- 00:15:57.676 --> 00:15:59.011
- And and you have a new piece where you're talking about this
- 00:15:59.011 --> 00:16:02.548
- Huge development where secretary of state marco rubio
- 00:16:02.548 --> 00:16:06.552
- And the trump administration
- 00:16:06.552 --> 00:16:07.753
- Have designated them as a foreign terrorist organization.
- 00:16:07.753 --> 00:16:11.857
- And you have a great write up on the post,
- 00:16:11.857 --> 00:16:13.726
- Millennial, about this.
- 00:16:13.726 --> 00:16:15.327
- Explain to our audience.
- 00:16:15.327 --> 00:16:16.896
- That might be a little, unsure of why
- 00:16:16.896 --> 00:16:19.198
- This is important versus the previous executive order,
- 00:16:19.198 --> 00:16:22.635
- That designated that a domestic terror group.
- 00:16:22.635 --> 00:16:26.572
- Thank you for having me on.
- 00:16:27.173 --> 00:16:28.407
- So when i spoke at the white house roundtable on antifa, i
- 00:16:28.407 --> 00:16:33.546
- One of the things that i suggested
- 00:16:33.546 --> 00:16:35.147
- To the president and his cabinet
- 00:16:35.147 --> 00:16:36.782
- That they could do is to look at the international,
- 00:16:36.782 --> 00:16:41.320
- Networks and organizations within and to fire
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- And to designate the applicable
- 00:16:45.758 --> 00:16:47.059
- Ones as fto, as foreign terrorist organizations.
- 00:16:47.059 --> 00:16:50.729
- And why that's so important is
- 00:16:50.729 --> 00:16:53.132
- Because unlike the category where ization
- 00:16:53.132 --> 00:16:56.635
- Of domestic terrorism, there's actually legislation
- 00:16:56.635 --> 00:17:01.073
- And a legal category of a foreign terrorist organization.
- 00:17:01.073 --> 00:17:05.678
- And the announcement from secretary rubio,
- 00:17:05.678 --> 00:17:09.882
- With antifa asked and three other european based
- 00:17:09.882 --> 00:17:13.853
- Antifa, groups and networks being declared aptos.
- 00:17:13.853 --> 00:17:17.490
- These are now on the same category as isis, as al-qaida
- 00:17:17.490 --> 00:17:21.427
- And other proscribed terrorist groups
- 00:17:21.427 --> 00:17:23.963
- That your listeners and viewers may have heard of.
- 00:17:23.963 --> 00:17:27.066
- This is very different than when people
- 00:17:27.066 --> 00:17:29.835
- In the administration
- 00:17:29.835 --> 00:17:31.103
- Talking about antifa being domestic terrorists.
- 00:17:31.103 --> 00:17:33.839
- And the key difference is, there's actually no
- 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:36.709
- Legal category, in the us
- 00:17:36.709 --> 00:17:40.146
- For domestic terrorism in terms of like a group
- 00:17:40.146 --> 00:17:44.316
- Cannot be declared that way and then be banned.
- 00:17:44.316 --> 00:17:47.486
- So the executive order describes antifa as such.
- 00:17:47.486 --> 00:17:50.422
- But it's not like a law that would ban
- 00:17:50.422 --> 00:17:53.959
- Providing support for antifa.
- 00:17:53.959 --> 00:17:56.228
- Domestic ically
- 00:17:56.228 --> 00:17:57.296
- Or to have membership in a violent group that's
- 00:17:57.296 --> 00:18:00.766
- Within the antifa network.
- 00:18:00.766 --> 00:18:02.635
- And that's because the first amendment protections
- 00:18:02.635 --> 00:18:05.137
- I'm speaking to you from london now,
- 00:18:05.137 --> 00:18:07.206
- And in my travels in the uk and europe, when i speak
- 00:18:07.206 --> 00:18:10.943
- To liberals or leftists, they say, well, how come?
- 00:18:10.943 --> 00:18:14.213
- The us hasn't
- 00:18:14.213 --> 00:18:17.049
- Banned, the kkk or like neo-nazi groups.
- 00:18:17.049 --> 00:18:21.086
- And the reason is the the first amendment
- 00:18:21.086 --> 00:18:23.122
- Has been interpreted through the courts
- 00:18:23.122 --> 00:18:24.690
- To provide very wide protections for associations.
- 00:18:24.690 --> 00:18:28.961
- So but that doesn't mean that the executive orders
- 00:18:28.961 --> 00:18:32.731
- And what the,
- 00:18:32.731 --> 00:18:33.999
- The administration now is doing domestically doesn't matter.
- 00:18:33.999 --> 00:18:37.236
- There's been, very importantly, at the federal level,
- 00:18:37.236 --> 00:18:40.839
- The doj was able to get to indictments against alleged
- 00:18:40.839 --> 00:18:45.311
- Members of an antifa cell in north texas,
- 00:18:45.311 --> 00:18:48.113
- Indicted on providing material support to terrorism.
- 00:18:48.113 --> 00:18:51.517
- You see.
- 00:18:51.784 --> 00:18:52.151
- So like,
- 00:18:52.151 --> 00:18:53.819
- That's where that focus that the administration
- 00:18:53.819 --> 00:18:57.256
- Has on antifa, on terrorism matters rather than the
- 00:18:57.256 --> 00:19:01.060
- The label of domestic terrorists.
- 00:19:01.060 --> 00:19:02.628
- But going back to fto, it's a it's
- 00:19:02.628 --> 00:19:05.898
- It's the first time in u.s.
- 00:19:05.898 --> 00:19:07.733
- History that, the us government has declared
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- Any antifa associated group as being officially terrorist.
- 00:19:11.604 --> 00:19:17.243
- So, yeah.
- 00:19:17.543 --> 00:19:18.844
- And you write in the post monday,
- 00:19:18.844 --> 00:19:20.279
- You said the fto label is not symbolic.
- 00:19:20.279 --> 00:19:22.281
- It's a legal tool under u.s.
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- Law enabling sanctions
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- Against individuals associated with the groups asset freezes,
- 00:19:25.484 --> 00:19:29.255
- Travel bans and criminal penalties
- 00:19:29.255 --> 00:19:31.323
- For membership or providing material support.
- 00:19:31.323 --> 00:19:33.592
- In short, it's how it's now a federal crime to belong to
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- Or assist the four violent antifa anarchist groups
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- That were labeled in.
- 00:19:40.866 --> 00:19:41.967
- There's some in greece
- 00:19:41.967 --> 00:19:43.135
- And italy, in germany that you that you outline in there.
- 00:19:43.135 --> 00:19:46.705
- Now, i want to
- 00:19:46.705 --> 00:19:47.840
- Bring our attention back domestically, though, andy,
- 00:19:47.840 --> 00:19:50.276
- Because at this uc berkeley event, i noticed that there
- 00:19:50.276 --> 00:19:53.412
- At least there from the videos i saw, there wasn't
- 00:19:53.412 --> 00:19:56.115
- Many of these antifa thugs wearing black bloc.
- 00:19:56.115 --> 00:19:59.718
- Right?
- 00:19:59.918 --> 00:20:00.719
- It is intentionally decentralized.
- 00:20:00.719 --> 00:20:02.554
- It is intentionally without hierarchy.
- 00:20:02.554 --> 00:20:04.990
- At least you know, on a on a spreadsheet in a, in a,
- 00:20:04.990 --> 00:20:08.460
- An org org chart. right.
- 00:20:08.460 --> 00:20:10.429
- So what
- 00:20:10.429 --> 00:20:11.430
- What is the way that these groups are organized
- 00:20:11.430 --> 00:20:14.700
- Domestically and they're going to
- 00:20:14.700 --> 00:20:16.502
- They're going to shift their tactics as the government
- 00:20:16.502 --> 00:20:19.405
- Attempts to crack down on them.
- 00:20:19.405 --> 00:20:20.639
- Where do you see this going and what can you just,
- 00:20:20.639 --> 00:20:23.509
- Explain to us about the hierarchy question?
- 00:20:23.509 --> 00:20:27.179
- So for the last
- 00:20:27.546 --> 00:20:28.580
- Five years, within the organized militant
- 00:20:28.580 --> 00:20:31.383
- Antifa, american groups such as rogue
- 00:20:31.383 --> 00:20:33.819
- City, antifa, and other groups that are within the torch
- 00:20:33.819 --> 00:20:36.689
- Antifa network, in cities like in new york, asheville,
- 00:20:36.689 --> 00:20:40.426
- Philadelphia, they've moved more underground.
- 00:20:40.426 --> 00:20:43.929
- You'll see that
- 00:20:43.929 --> 00:20:45.030
- They have been posting a lot less on social media.
- 00:20:45.030 --> 00:20:48.067
- When they have had a presence that direct actions,
- 00:20:48.067 --> 00:20:50.636
- They no longer
- 00:20:50.636 --> 00:20:52.071
- Show the logos and symbols of their particular organization.
- 00:20:52.071 --> 00:20:56.308
- And i think that's because they've seen
- 00:20:56.308 --> 00:20:58.544
- In some jurisdictions there's been ongoing domestic
- 00:20:58.544 --> 00:21:02.348
- Terrorism investigations, like in the,
- 00:21:02.348 --> 00:21:06.085
- State of georgia, where 61
- 00:21:06.652 --> 00:21:08.987
- People were indicted on domestic terrorism charges.
- 00:21:08.987 --> 00:21:13.258
- There were there was a cell in san diego county
- 00:21:13.258 --> 00:21:16.962
- Where 12 members of so
- 00:21:16.962 --> 00:21:19.565
- Cal antifa were,
- 00:21:19.565 --> 00:21:22.434
- Were convicted either at trial or do plea deals.
- 00:21:22.434 --> 00:21:26.205
- So they're trying to go underground and bunker down
- 00:21:26.205 --> 00:21:30.843
- Until there's
- 00:21:30.843 --> 00:21:32.010
- A democrat administration and where they can come out.
- 00:21:32.010 --> 00:21:34.480
- But whether or not they're underground,
- 00:21:34.480 --> 00:21:36.248
- It doesn't mean they don't exist
- 00:21:36.248 --> 00:21:37.883
- And they don't organize.
- 00:21:37.883 --> 00:21:39.518
- And a lot of the terrorism that antifa does involves
- 00:21:39.518 --> 00:21:43.689
- People who are actually not
- 00:21:43.689 --> 00:21:45.491
- Going to their meetings or have not been
- 00:21:45.491 --> 00:21:48.026
- Through their particular cell vetting process.
- 00:21:48.026 --> 00:21:51.096
- And that's the decentralized nature of a lot of terrorist
- 00:21:51.096 --> 00:21:54.767
- Groups, actually, internationally as well,
- 00:21:54.767 --> 00:21:57.035
- In that they put out the ideology
- 00:21:57.035 --> 00:22:00.038
- Online, or there are certain social media accounts.
- 00:22:00.038 --> 00:22:03.008
- I'll put out the propaganda, and the goal is to get
- 00:22:03.008 --> 00:22:06.612
- Fellow travelers, sympathizers or ideologues to go
- 00:22:06.612 --> 00:22:10.716
- And do something, just show up, show up and commit violence.
- 00:22:10.716 --> 00:22:14.186
- And i think that was seen
- 00:22:14.186 --> 00:22:16.922
- In some part of what happened at uc berkeley.
- 00:22:16.922 --> 00:22:19.958
- This is their playbook.
- 00:22:19.958 --> 00:22:21.160
- They call the targets
- 00:22:21.160 --> 00:22:23.562
- Fascists and nazis and use inflammatory
- 00:22:23.562 --> 00:22:26.432
- Rhetoric and lies and get a mob to show up
- 00:22:26.432 --> 00:22:30.035
- And create an environment where people, their,
- 00:22:30.035 --> 00:22:33.972
- Comrades, are encouraged to commit assaults
- 00:22:33.972 --> 00:22:36.375
- I, i think it's important
- 00:22:36.375 --> 00:22:37.943
- To talk about what they have done in europe.
- 00:22:37.943 --> 00:22:40.712
- These groups have not been proscribed,
- 00:22:40.712 --> 00:22:43.715
- Because of ideology.
- 00:22:43.715 --> 00:22:46.351
- And if people read my article piece
- 00:22:46.351 --> 00:22:48.353
- Or they look at what the state department put out,
- 00:22:48.353 --> 00:22:50.956
- One of the groups this antifa asked,
- 00:22:50.956 --> 00:22:53.125
- Which translates to antifa eats in their germany
- 00:22:53.125 --> 00:22:56.428
- Based antifa group,
- 00:22:56.428 --> 00:22:58.397
- Where their method of attack is to mob beat their targets
- 00:22:58.397 --> 00:23:02.801
- With batons and hammers, and it go specifically
- 00:23:02.801 --> 00:23:05.704
- For breaking bones, smashing skulls.
- 00:23:05.704 --> 00:23:08.006
- Open some of their
- 00:23:08.006 --> 00:23:09.942
- Some of their members have been convicted
- 00:23:09.942 --> 00:23:11.643
- Of aggravated assault and attempted murder.
- 00:23:11.643 --> 00:23:14.880
- Some of the other groups that were declared fto
- 00:23:14.880 --> 00:23:18.116
- Was based in italy and in greece
- 00:23:18.116 --> 00:23:20.619
- Have been involved in bombings and shootings,
- 00:23:20.619 --> 00:23:23.755
- Shootings of ceos and bombings of police stations.
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- So these are terrorist groups.
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- And yet we still see
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- Some leftists coming out, unsurprisingly, to,
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- Defund antifa in the wake
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- Of this announcement from the state department.
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- Andy. no reporter for the post.
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- Millennial author of unmasked,
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- And you can check them out at his substack.
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- No comment. ngo comment.
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- Thank you. andy. no. so so good to see you.
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