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- We are
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- Titling this first segment of the show
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- The tale of two truths because, president trump
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- Really he he unfurled untruth
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- Against some former supporters, including tucker carlson,
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- Alex jones, megan kelly and candace owens and one,
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- Giant truth social post.
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- And we're going to compare and contrast the messaging of that
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- With another truth in just a second.
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- But blake, your take.
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- Oh, okay. well, we should if you haven't seen it.
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- We can't read the whole thing.
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- It's pretty long, even for a trump truth.
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- But he does say he dropped this yesterday afternoon
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- Somewhat out of the blue.
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- The start, it says, i know why tucker carlson, megan kelly,
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- Candace owens and alex jones
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- Have all been fighting me for years,
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- Especially by the fact
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- They think it is wonderful
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- For iran, the number one state
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- Sponsor of terror, to have a nuclear weapon.
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- They all have one thing in common low iq.
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- They are stupid people. they know it.
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- Their families know it.
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- Everyone else knows it too.
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- He goes on to call them nutjobs and troublemakers.
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- He says, they are through each one.
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- Yes, he goes through each.
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- He says they are the opposite of maga.
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- He says he attacks tucker says he didn't finish college.
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- He says he goes after megan kelly for asking him
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- The nasty, now famous, only rosie o'donnell question.
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- He says that the the respected, the highly respected
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- First lady of france who is not a man, is more attractive
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- Than candace owens.
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- He goes after alex jones for losing that lawsuit
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- Over the sandy hook.
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- His bank really just blasts all of them.
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- After that.
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- Very scorched earth, very scorched.
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- Although, you know, it's funny,
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- I heard a couple of people responded to this.
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- Like, that was pretty tepid for trump.
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- He could have gone harder.
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- I was like, i don't i don't think that's true.
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- I this is pretty.
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- This is, this is it was very scorched earth.
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- The reason of course, he did that is they have all, been
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- Vocal, very vocally critical of the iran intervention.
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- And in particular,
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- They were all extremely critical of his rhetoric.
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- Just in the past few days, specifically,
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- Everything got ratcheted up to a next level
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- After the end of civilization troops.
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- Precisely, precisely.
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- I recall,
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- Alex jones, he said something like war
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- Crime alert over that and said,
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- This is not what we voted for.
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- Megan kelly said it was irresponsible and disgusting.
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- She says, i am sick of this bleep.
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- Why can't he just behave like a normal human?
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- President trump floated that the president's staff
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- Should sort of defy his orders.
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- Tucker i'm sorry sorry sorry but i said trump.
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- Tucker said that that his staff should defy the order.
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- And and there was
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- There was that 25th amendment of discussion
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- Of the 25th amendment and yes, and, of course,
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- Has suggested he was involved
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- In murdering charlie brown, which is obscene.
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- So my take on this is basically a couple of things.
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- One, there are actually really important matters happening
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- In the
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- In the world, in the country, this is a bit of a distraction.
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- However, what did you think was going to happen?
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- You know, this is a man who responds very forcefully.
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- Your response when this happened
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- Was pretty interesting.
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- You said, i'm surprised it took this long.
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- Yeah. candidly, yeah.
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- They they have been vocally critical of the conflict
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- Since it started.
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- And the president is a guy
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- Who responds pretty rapidly when he feels
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- People have turned on him out of his coalition.
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- We've seen what he's done with congressman massie.
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- We've seen what he did with marjorie
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- Taylor greene on my watch. he bashes in there elon musk.
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- It was a quick
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- And that's interesting because that gets that.
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- We remember when elon musk first broke away
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- He comes out and says
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- President trump is in the epstein files,
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- Basically says he's involved,
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- Suggest he's involved in sex trafficking.
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- Very critical.
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- And we remember charlie said,
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- I think they could possibly reunite over this.
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- And, you know, paper this over well, you know, and listen,
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- Emotions are high.
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- Correct.
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- And i would say that the elon musk example is a
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- An example of what president trump is capable of doing.
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- Right?
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- Which is,
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- If you look back, him and meghan, we're not friends.
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- They came back together in 2024.
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- Megan kelly has said that
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- She will vote republican over a democrat no matter what.
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- It doesn't matter how upset upset she is.
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- Tucker carlson had texts released
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- In the dominion lawsuit,
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- Which revealed that he did not like president trump
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- At a certain point.
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- Then he campaigned in 2024 on his behalf.
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- So we don't know where this is going to happen.
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- Alex jones i, i'm a little less clear.
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- Alex has been supportive of the president over
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- The years and has turned on him.
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- Alex is response to this, by the way, was that
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- Thank you for making it clear
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- That i want nothing to do with you
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- And i don't support you anymore.
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- Basically,
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- I would put candace
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- In a completely different category of of
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- Of all of this, actually.
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- But the the end result is it's a bit of a distraction.
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- But what did you think was going to happen?
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- And let's just make one thing clear.
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- If you're going to call
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- For the 25th amendment of the sitting president
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- Of the united states, you're calling for a palace coup.
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- That's what you're calling for.
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- Because the 25th amendment was written in past
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- Bipartisan fashion in 1967. why?
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- Because you had the woodrow
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- Wilson, basically where he was debilitated
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- And his wife and his physician kept that from the country.
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- Okay. that was 1919, i believe.
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- Then you had, a heart attack
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- And a stroke by eisenhower, little known fact of history.
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- But in both of those instances, it was unclear
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- What was going to happen.
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- If he didn't survive those instances.
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- Then you had the assassination of jfk.
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- But what would have happened had jfk just been a vegetable
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- And survived it? right?
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- He obviously died, so lbj took over.
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- But what would have happened
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- If he would have just been incapacitated?
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- So they needed a mechanism constitutionally to
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- If the president is unable to dispatch the duties
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- And responsibilities of the president,
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- That's what the 25th amendment is.
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- It's not when you don't like his policies, it's
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- Not when you like when you don't like the war in iran.
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- It's about if he is mentally unfit and unable
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- To do the job, meaning you had a stroke or something.
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- Well, that of course, is what some people are claiming he is.
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- Yeah, but he's obviously lucid and and he's the same trump
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- We've always.
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- So we'd love to see what all of you make of this.
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- So send us emails.
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- If you're we'll read them next.
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- We'll take a look at them.
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- I think what this is a good reminder of is
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- It is how the president approaches
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- Politics, which is he he can handle criticism
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- On policy grounds, but there's a certain thing where
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- President trump is a guy who
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- Thinks through the language of dominance.
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- He always wants it to be clear that he is in charge
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- Of the party.
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- He is in charge of the movement,
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- That you'll notice that he says this i am maga.
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- These people are not maga.
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- He very much,
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- Frankly, wants to emphasize that maga
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- Is centered around him personally,
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- And that's important to the president to express.
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- And i think it's the efforts to define
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- What maga is in a way that would say,
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- Oh, trump is not doing a maga thing.
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- I think that is ultimately what sets him off the most,
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- Along with just the efforts to undercut him.
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- To be fair, the 25th amendment,
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- Yeah, he was he was asked about tucker,
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- I think a week or two ago, and tucker was already being,
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- Critical of him, and he kind of brushed it off
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- And he said, well, it's okay, you know, and i think i think,
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- You know, to your point, i'm surprised
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- It took so long in some of these instances,
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- We have a tale of two two truths, though.
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- So just to
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- Put a fine point on it, he offered this other truth
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- About the haitian migrant
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- That we covered on the show yesterday,
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- And i think that's an example
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- Of some of his best messaging domestically in recent memory.
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- And, of course, the haitian migrant,
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- Was not supposed to be in this country, was let in by joe
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- Biden, was given temporary protected status
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- And then bludgeoned, store clerk to death with a hammer.
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- And president trump went off on that.
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- The tale of two truths, one i think is distracting.
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- I again, i understand why he did it.
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- The other is focused right here at home.
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- And it was a powerful truth.
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- And we'll get into that more.
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- And we're going to hit melania next segment as well.
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- Her epstein documents,
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- Her epstein documents,
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- Want to
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- Give a little bit more airtime to this haitian truth social.
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- And because i again, i think
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- President trump at his best is railing against the abuses
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- And the pillaging and the,
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- The yeah, this is the abuses of this, country of ours.
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- And so he says, an illegal alien criminal from haiti
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- Who was released into our country by the worst
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- President in history, crooked joe biden
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- And the radical democrats in congress
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- Just beat an innocent woman to death
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- With a hammer at a gas station in florida.
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- The video of her brutal
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- Slaying is one of the most vicious things
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- You will ever see.
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- And unfortunately, there it is again.
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- We have it censored sufficiently.
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- This animal was allowed to stay here
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- Because the biden administration
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- Granted him and all haitians temporary protected status,
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- A massively abused and fraudulent program
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- Which my administration is working to eliminate.
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- But deranged liberal district
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- Court judges are standing in our way.
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- This one killing should be enough
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- For these radical judges to stop impeding
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- My administration's immigration policies
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- And allow us to end this scam once and for all.
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- To my fellow
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- Republicans, and frankly, all common sense americans,
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- Never forget that joe biden and the democrat party turned
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- The united states of america into a dumping ground.
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- And to that i say yes and amen.
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- This is trump, this is pete.
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- This is where you want him to be.
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- I'll be honest.
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- I understand why he picked that fight
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- He did yesterday with all the podcast.
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- But i wish if every aggressive truth was about something
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- Like this, totally grab a worst of the worst scenario
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- Of what
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- The left has done to this country,
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- What they're still trying to do to this country.
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- And it was it's so great.
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- I remember it happening.
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- So much in the first term, for example, when he had the,
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- You know, the crap hole countries.
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- Yeah, quote
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- That leaked
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- And it was the biggest story of the day
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- Because it was so offensive that he was saying, oh,
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- We shouldn't have immigrants from crappy countries.
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- And yet he
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- Basically won that cycle because ordinary americans
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- Don't think we should have infinite
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- People come here from crappy. totally.
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- The dumping ground line in that tweet, i,
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- I wanted to like it viscerally connected.
- 00:10:18.175 --> 00:10:20.343
- Or it was during his, his time in the wilderness
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- Where he said, bad immigrants are poisoning
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- The blood of america.
- 00:10:25.482 --> 00:10:26.783
- And then they did a poll
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- And it turned out, a majority of americans
- 00:10:27.884 --> 00:10:29.352
- Do think immigrants poisoned the blood of the country.
- 00:10:29.352 --> 00:10:31.788
- Cnn, was very upset about that.
- 00:10:31.788 --> 00:10:34.157
- I remember that, but that's where you want him.
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- You want cnn upset at him, and you want the base.
- 00:10:35.826 --> 00:10:38.195
- Rallying behind all this is
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- This is my whole point with mass deportations, right?
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- You hear the line?
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- Mass deportations.
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- It's only about 5050 issue, about 50% support,
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- Whereas worst of the worst, about 75% of american support.
- 00:10:47.404 --> 00:10:51.575
- You can't compare those two buckets the same.
- 00:10:51.575 --> 00:10:53.610
- The 50% that support mass deportation is your base.
- 00:10:53.610 --> 00:10:56.713
- It's your most adamant and ardent supporters.
- 00:10:56.713 --> 00:10:59.516
- They will come out in a midterm.
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- Okay.
- 00:11:01.718 --> 00:11:02.619
- That's who we need to rile up the base.
- 00:11:02.619 --> 00:11:04.554
- These kind of tweets are truths.
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- Do that.
- 00:11:07.224 --> 00:11:08.158
- They affect the base at a visceral level.
- 00:11:08.158 --> 00:11:10.227
- It gets us fired up.
- 00:11:10.227 --> 00:11:11.428
- And we remember the carnage, the biden years,
- 00:11:11.428 --> 00:11:13.263
- And we want to get out and make sure
- 00:11:13.263 --> 00:11:14.965
- Republicans get elected to support that kind of policy.
- 00:11:14.965 --> 00:11:17.400
- And we talk about where it's worth taking risks on things.
- 00:11:17.400 --> 00:11:21.338
- And sometimes you have people very agitated
- 00:11:21.338 --> 00:11:25.008
- On twitter saying, oh, a judge rules against president trump.
- 00:11:25.008 --> 00:11:28.178
- He should defy this judge.
- 00:11:28.178 --> 00:11:29.746
- I think in 99% of cases, that's not worth doing
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- Because it's provoking a crisis when you have a friendly
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- Supreme court.
- 00:11:36.853 --> 00:11:37.754
- But as an example, this immigrant
- 00:11:37.754 --> 00:11:39.823
- Who just murdered this woman in florida
- 00:11:39.823 --> 00:11:41.858
- Was the beneficiary of temporary protected status.
- 00:11:41.858 --> 00:11:44.294
- We have been trying to repeal temporary protected status
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- On all these groups.
- 00:11:47.364 --> 00:11:48.365
- And you repeatedly are having these district
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- Court judges certain cluding in some cases,
- 00:11:49.766 --> 00:11:52.035
- I think there's a florida liberal judge
- 00:11:52.035 --> 00:11:53.603
- Who's been reversed by the supreme court
- 00:11:53.603 --> 00:11:55.906
- Over and over again on questions like this.
- 00:11:55.906 --> 00:11:58.408
- And if you wanted to test the waters where it's worth
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- Taking a constitutional risk, it would be
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- If we have a judge who's been reversed
- 00:12:03.680 --> 00:12:05.215
- On the same thing by the supreme court
- 00:12:05.215 --> 00:12:07.384
- Two, three, four times, we're going to
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- Not let them block us from deporting some of these people.
- 00:12:09.719 --> 00:12:12.823
- Yeah, that might be a risk that's worth taming.
- 00:12:12.823 --> 00:12:14.825
- And i think that's kind of where we're all at at the base.
- 00:12:14.825 --> 00:12:17.127
- It's like if we're going
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- To spend political capital and spend
- 00:12:17.994 --> 00:12:20.297
- Political will messaging, well, let's get it done.
- 00:12:20.297 --> 00:12:22.933
- On immigration deportations.
- 00:12:22.933 --> 00:12:25.202
- I think it's the most important issue still.
- 00:12:25.202 --> 00:12:27.637
- All right. so we want to quickly pivot.
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- We're run out of time already in this segment.
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- Only four minutes left i want to get to melanie.
- 00:12:31.074 --> 00:12:33.543
- She surprised everybody at the white house press corps
- 00:12:33.543 --> 00:12:35.846
- Yesterday by taking the podium and addressing epstein.
- 00:12:35.846 --> 00:12:39.416
- And we want to get into it because
- 00:12:39.416 --> 00:12:40.584
- One part of it is truly, i think, important
- 00:12:40.584 --> 00:12:43.353
- That one now is the time for congress to act.
- 00:12:43.353 --> 00:12:47.424
- Epstein was not alone.
- 00:12:47.891 --> 00:12:50.961
- Several prominent male executives resigned
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- From their powerful positions after this matter
- 00:12:54.264 --> 00:12:57.834
- Became widely politicized.
- 00:12:57.834 --> 00:13:01.371
- Of course, this doesn't amount to guilt,
- 00:13:01.371 --> 00:13:04.741
- But we still must work openly
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- And transparently to uncover the truth.
- 00:13:07.711 --> 00:13:11.181
- I call on congress to provide the women who have been
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- Victimized by epstein with the public hearing,
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- Specifically centered around the survivors.
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- Each and every woman
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- Should have her day to tell her story in public.
- 00:13:26.463 --> 00:13:30.166
- If she wishes, then
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- And only then, we will have the truth.
- 00:13:32.736 --> 00:13:35.906
- She's taking offense, right?
- 00:13:35.906 --> 00:13:38.174
- The administration has been playing
- 00:13:38.174 --> 00:13:39.609
- Too much defense on this issue.
- 00:13:39.609 --> 00:13:41.111
- The truth still remains that joe biden
- 00:13:41.111 --> 00:13:43.313
- And the democrats didn't release any of this.
- 00:13:43.313 --> 00:13:45.048
- The trump administration has she starts this whole speech
- 00:13:45.048 --> 00:13:48.418
- By saying anything on the internet that you see
- 00:13:48.418 --> 00:13:50.186
- That ties me to epstein is garbage.
- 00:13:50.186 --> 00:13:51.888
- I've already got a bunch of apologies.
- 00:13:51.888 --> 00:13:53.490
- We're going to keep policing these statements.
- 00:13:53.490 --> 00:13:55.792
- Then she says, i want them to get justice,
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- Have them testify before congress.
- 00:13:58.194 --> 00:14:00.297
- Well, then this puts the democrats
- 00:14:00.297 --> 00:14:03.233
- In defense because all they want
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- And i think this is very clear,
- 00:14:06.069 --> 00:14:07.604
- Is they don't want justice for the victims.
- 00:14:07.604 --> 00:14:09.639
- They want to get trump.
- 00:14:09.639 --> 00:14:10.607
- They want to weaponize epstein to get trump.
- 00:14:10.607 --> 00:14:13.009
- This makes them either say, yeah, good for melania.
- 00:14:13.009 --> 00:14:15.812
- We're good. good. yeah, here we go in. agree.
- 00:14:15.812 --> 00:14:18.048
- In which case that doesn't have nearly as much potency
- 00:14:18.048 --> 00:14:21.685
- From a political standpoint.
- 00:14:21.685 --> 00:14:23.019
- Or they fight back and sort of show their cards
- 00:14:23.019 --> 00:14:25.422
- That this has been a ruse
- 00:14:25.422 --> 00:14:26.289
- The whole time just to get trump.
- 00:14:26.289 --> 00:14:28.024
- Now, what's interesting here
- 00:14:28.024 --> 00:14:30.427
- Is the reaction by the quote unquote survivors.
- 00:14:30.427 --> 00:14:33.530
- They have come out and said, well,
- 00:14:33.530 --> 00:14:34.998
- We've already done enough.
- 00:14:34.998 --> 00:14:36.132
- We shouldn't have to do more, which just they said,
- 00:14:36.132 --> 00:14:38.001
- There's about 15 of them and they signed a statement.
- 00:14:38.001 --> 00:14:40.704
- They are survivors of jeffrey epstein,
- 00:14:40.704 --> 00:14:42.906
- Have already shown extraordinary courage by coming
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- Forward, filing reports and giving testimony.
- 00:14:44.674 --> 00:14:46.910
- Asking more of them now is a deflection of responsibility,
- 00:14:46.910 --> 00:14:50.280
- Not justice. yeah, exactly.
- 00:14:50.280 --> 00:14:52.015
- So this is a very interesting dynamic that's emerging.
- 00:14:52.015 --> 00:14:54.351
- And i do think this has the opportunity
- 00:14:54.351 --> 00:14:55.919
- With pam bondi leaving, to reset the deck at the doj.
- 00:14:55.919 --> 00:14:59.756
- Maybe there's an opportunity to be take the offensive foot,
- 00:14:59.756 --> 00:15:02.892
- Which could help in a lot of ways.
- 00:15:02.892 --> 00:15:05.128
- So let's go ahead.
- 00:15:05.128 --> 00:15:05.662
- And this is on a plane,
- 00:15:05.662 --> 00:15:06.563
- A luna congresswoman on a plane,
- 00:15:06.563 --> 00:15:08.064
- A luna talking about the coconspirators,
- 00:15:08.064 --> 00:15:10.400
- Which is an interesting clip.
- 00:15:10.400 --> 00:15:11.568
- Cut five, that jeffrey epstein was running a intelligence
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- Gathering operation.
- 00:15:15.372 --> 00:15:16.439
- In my professional opinion, i do believe
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- It was a honeypot operation.
- 00:15:18.375 --> 00:15:20.176
- And i do believe that there is a list of individuals
- 00:15:20.176 --> 00:15:22.579
- Who did engage in trafficking was given these plea deals,
- 00:15:22.579 --> 00:15:25.382
- And i'm going to name those individuals right now.
- 00:15:25.382 --> 00:15:27.617
- The first one would be leslie groff.
- 00:15:27.617 --> 00:15:29.753
- The second one, sarah kellen, the third one,
- 00:15:29.753 --> 00:15:32.122
- Nadia markova, and the fourth one, adriana ros.
- 00:15:32.122 --> 00:15:35.658
- All of these women engaged, trafficking, engaged
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- In the trafficking of minors as adults.
- 00:15:38.695 --> 00:15:40.697
- They were working
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- And complicit with jeffrey epstein's operation.
- 00:15:41.731 --> 00:15:44.667
- And in my opinion,
- 00:15:44.667 --> 00:15:45.802
- They are not to be given victim status because they did
- 00:15:45.802 --> 00:15:48.938
- Partake in harming, harming young girls.
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- Those are people that have been given
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- Plea deals as if they were victims,
- 00:15:53.410 --> 00:15:55.412
- But they were in on a polina luna's perspective.
- 00:15:55.412 --> 00:15:58.681
- Coconspirators because they helped traffic the young women.
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- To jeffrey epstein, another name that's come up
- 00:16:01.518 --> 00:16:03.753
- A lot is hailey robson, who sort of now
- 00:16:03.753 --> 00:16:07.190
- Notoriously spoke with roxana after the state of the union.
- 00:16:07.190 --> 00:16:10.093
- She's another one that's been named
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- As potentially trafficking young women as well.
- 00:16:11.428 --> 00:16:13.863
- So this is a developing situation,
- 00:16:13.863 --> 00:16:15.865
- And we are going to keep our eyes on it,
- 00:16:15.865 --> 00:16:17.434
- Because there's a lot of moving pieces here.
- 00:16:17.434 --> 00:16:19.169
- And the dec just got reset.
- 00:16:19.169 --> 00:16:22.272
- We'll be right back.
- 00:16:22.739 --> 00:16:26.009
- We'll be right back.
- 00:16:26.009 --> 00:16:32.549
- All right.
- 00:16:32.849 --> 00:16:33.917
- We want to pivot here to what's going on at uvu.
- 00:16:33.917 --> 00:16:36.753
- Obviously, that is the campus where charlie was assassinated
- 00:16:36.753 --> 00:16:40.457
- On september 10th, 2025.
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- And we have the chapter president, caleb chilcott,
- 00:16:42.292 --> 00:16:45.095
- Who is, like i said, the tp, usa, uvu chapter president,
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- With us now, caleb, welcome back to the show.
- 00:16:48.998 --> 00:16:52.001
- Thank you so much.
- 00:16:52.435 --> 00:16:53.103
- I'm so glad to be here.
- 00:16:53.103 --> 00:16:54.370
- Yeah, well, you and you got a haircut.
- 00:16:54.370 --> 00:16:55.805
- Caleb, you look at you.
- 00:16:55.805 --> 00:16:57.107
- I got a bit of a change.
- 00:16:57.107 --> 00:16:58.208
- Last time, it was, you know, it was, longer.
- 00:16:58.208 --> 00:17:01.845
- Anyways, good to see you.
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- So there's controversy brewing at uvu, and i hate
- 00:17:02.846 --> 00:17:05.949
- To be the bearer of bad news, but essentially, there has been
- 00:17:05.949 --> 00:17:09.686
- A commencement speaker that has been chosen.
- 00:17:09.686 --> 00:17:13.289
- And this her her name is sharon mcmahon,
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- And she's been selected as a 2026 commencement
- 00:17:16.526 --> 00:17:19.162
- Speaker to fill our audience in.
- 00:17:19.162 --> 00:17:22.198
- Caleb, why this is causing a stir.
- 00:17:22.198 --> 00:17:24.667
- And you've even issued a statement
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- On behalf of the chapter there at tp, uvu.
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- Tell us what's going on.
- 00:17:29.105 --> 00:17:30.773
- Yeah.
- 00:17:31.007 --> 00:17:32.108
- So two days or even a couple days after charlie was
- 00:17:32.108 --> 00:17:35.845
- Assassinated, sharon made a post on her instagram.
- 00:17:35.845 --> 00:17:41.184
- Sharon said so with a series of out of context quotes
- 00:17:41.184 --> 00:17:45.355
- Basically tarnishing, charlie's name.
- 00:17:45.355 --> 00:17:48.124
- And then when she started
- 00:17:48.124 --> 00:17:49.826
- To get a little bit of slack on that,
- 00:17:49.826 --> 00:17:51.327
- She then deleted the post and then four days later
- 00:17:51.327 --> 00:17:54.264
- Made a very just underwhelming statement,
- 00:17:54.264 --> 00:17:57.500
- Kind of disavowing political violence,
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- By saying that political violence wants us hopeless,
- 00:17:59.669 --> 00:18:03.373
- Refusing to give us, to give it
- 00:18:03.373 --> 00:18:05.275
- That kind of power is its own kind of defiance.
- 00:18:05.275 --> 00:18:07.911
- And that's what she said, mentioning political violence,
- 00:18:07.911 --> 00:18:10.680
- Charlie's assassination.
- 00:18:10.680 --> 00:18:12.248
- And it's just kind of
- 00:18:12.248 --> 00:18:15.084
- Like i said in my statement, just disheartening.
- 00:18:15.084 --> 00:18:18.054
- That you've you would not even, i guess, do their research.
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- And maybe this, this maybe they did.
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- Yeah.
- 00:18:25.361 --> 00:18:26.262
- And they're just laughing at our face.
- 00:18:26.262 --> 00:18:27.497
- To bring her on as a commencement
- 00:18:27.497 --> 00:18:29.632
- Speaker is kind of just disgusting.
- 00:18:29.632 --> 00:18:32.335
- Yeah, it's a slap in the face.
- 00:18:32.335 --> 00:18:34.437
- It really is.
- 00:18:34.437 --> 00:18:35.605
- Go ahead.
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- Blake, i just wanted to read some of them.
- 00:18:36.573 --> 00:18:37.740
- There was a whole sequence of posts
- 00:18:37.740 --> 00:18:39.442
- That she made on the carousel.
- 00:18:39.442 --> 00:18:40.977
- Yeah, it was just a whole sequence of them.
- 00:18:40.977 --> 00:18:43.446
- But i want to get some of them.
- 00:18:43.446 --> 00:18:44.747
- Like, if you are a charlie kirk fan, you might not realize
- 00:18:44.747 --> 00:18:47.083
- Why there is so much backlash to posts eulogizing his death.
- 00:18:47.083 --> 00:18:51.120
- And she says to many americans,
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- Especially if you are
- 00:18:53.690 --> 00:18:54.824
- Black, lgbtq or muslim, charlie kirk was not a person
- 00:18:54.824 --> 00:18:58.061
- Who engaged in good faith debates on college campuses,
- 00:18:58.061 --> 00:19:01.698
- And she has quotes from him that she says are bad.
- 00:19:01.698 --> 00:19:04.934
- The controversy is not about having a difference of opinion
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- Or preaching the gospel.
- 00:19:07.770 --> 00:19:08.805
- It is about repeating bigoted ideas on a stage
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- That reached tens of millions.
- 00:19:11.641 --> 00:19:14.644
- It is important to remember that the incredible tragedy
- 00:19:14.644 --> 00:19:16.713
- Of a public assassination does not erase the harm
- 00:19:16.713 --> 00:19:19.916
- Many experienced from his words,
- 00:19:19.916 --> 00:19:21.551
- And the ensuing actions his followers took.
- 00:19:21.551 --> 00:19:24.654
- I have no idea what she's referring to there,
- 00:19:24.654 --> 00:19:26.456
- But she's suggesting
- 00:19:26.456 --> 00:19:27.690
- He has some sort of hosting a violence mongers hosting free
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- Speech events
- 00:19:31.194 --> 00:19:32.328
- Where people stream revivals to the front of the line
- 00:19:32.328 --> 00:19:35.031
- And she says these are just a handful of examples
- 00:19:35.031 --> 00:19:37.734
- After she had quotes from them.
- 00:19:37.734 --> 00:19:39.068
- And to many, when they see people treating
- 00:19:39.068 --> 00:19:41.104
- Charlie kirk
- 00:19:41.104 --> 00:19:41.771
- Like a martyr,
- 00:19:41.771 --> 00:19:43.039
- It seems like they are also endorsing these ideas.
- 00:19:43.039 --> 00:19:45.942
- So this is the woman who's going to be the speaker at uvu,
- 00:19:45.942 --> 00:19:49.078
- At the very campus where an assassin took his life.
- 00:19:49.078 --> 00:19:52.782
- And that's what i, i'm kind of want to get into this.
- 00:19:52.782 --> 00:19:56.586
- What you said there, caleb,
- 00:19:56.586 --> 00:19:57.954
- You said they didn't do their research,
- 00:19:57.954 --> 00:20:00.089
- And i would probably presume to believe they did.
- 00:20:00.089 --> 00:20:04.494
- Do their research.
- 00:20:04.494 --> 00:20:05.495
- And they don't want to be associated
- 00:20:05.495 --> 00:20:08.464
- With this horrific event in a way or something.
- 00:20:08.464 --> 00:20:11.634
- Right.
- 00:20:11.634 --> 00:20:12.669
- It's almost like an effort to distance themselves
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- From some, i guess, some perceived
- 00:20:14.904 --> 00:20:17.040
- Alignment with turning point.
- 00:20:17.040 --> 00:20:18.474
- And somehow or i'm not exactly sure what the the psychology
- 00:20:18.474 --> 00:20:21.944
- Would be behind it, but i find it pretty gross.
- 00:20:21.944 --> 00:20:24.314
- You've made this statement.
- 00:20:24.314 --> 00:20:25.415
- I want to kind of give you your your statement.
- 00:20:25.415 --> 00:20:28.251
- It's due here
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- Because i think the final section is really well said,
- 00:20:29.619 --> 00:20:33.122
- Because you say universities should welcome diverse
- 00:20:33.122 --> 00:20:35.158
- Viewpoints, platforming someone who treated a historic
- 00:20:35.158 --> 00:20:37.694
- And tragic political assassination
- 00:20:37.694 --> 00:20:39.495
- Not as a moment to grieve, but as an opportunity
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- To create content, is tone deaf and disrespectful
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- To those affected, especially on this campus.
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- There are countless better alternatives.
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- Amen.
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- And the
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- Fact that the university is choosing
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- Mcmahon is entirely disappointing to all of us.
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- Still reeling from his loss, i couldn't be more disappointed
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- In the university for such a hurtful and callous decision.
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- Now, i saw you post this on
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- Social and some of the comments below.
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- I actually chimed in because it was so irritating.
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- Some of the comments
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- Below said whatever happened to free speech?
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- And my my reaction is, well, what about our
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- Right to free speech to be upset at this decision?
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- Do you not understand that free speech, how it works?
- 00:21:16.065 --> 00:21:18.534
- It's a two way street, folks, that yeah, the university.
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- Sure, maybe they have the right to make a dumb decision.
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- But you and your chapter members, us here at charlie
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- Kirk show, we have our free speech
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- To criticize how stupid that decision is.
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- Exactly.
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- And i mean, like, we're not trying to do cancel culture.
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- That's not what we want.
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- We're just highlighting just the poor slap
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- In the face decision that uvu is making on
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- Just is a slap in the face to us and the millions
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- Of other americans
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- Who likes charlie and want to continue his voice.
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- Like i said in my statement, there are
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- Millions of other possible speakers who they could bring.
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- But the same school year that charlie was assassinated
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- On my campus, they bring someone who,
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- Days after he was killed,
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- Just tries to profit off misinformation.
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- You know,
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- And we're just going to say it right now,
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- Like we're calling
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- On the university to address this controversy very publicly.
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- We want you to publicly do it.
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- We want you to acknowledge the fact that your decision
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- Has been hurtful to our students on that chapter
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- That lived through a tragedy
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- None of them should have had to endure or witness,
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- And that this is a slap in the face.
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- And we want you to
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- Acknowledge this uvu, because it's disgusting.
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- And, you know, i just want to underscore
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- We're not we're not we're not doing cancel culture.
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- We're we're using our first amendment rights
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- Here, caleb,
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- To say that you've made a terrible decision, uvu.
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- And we think it's intentional.
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- If it wasn't, if you were unaware,
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- If you didn't do your research, fine.
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- Say that.
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- Or maybe cancel the speaker and pick somebody better.
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- Yeah, i fully agree.
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- Yeah, the ball's in your court.
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- We can't force you to do anything.
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- But this is our point of view,
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- And that's our first amendment right to say so.
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- Caleb great work man.
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- You're articulate, you're strong, you're morally clear.
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- And, you know,
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- You just are such a great representative
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- For turning point students all across the country.
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- And, you know, i'm sorry this is happening.
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- But you're doing a great job.
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- Continue on with the memorial, in charlie's honor, and we're
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- Grateful for your man.
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