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Charlie Kirk Today | Charlie Kirk: August 19, 2025 | Charlie Kirk Today | August 19, 2025
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- International fellowship of christians and jews.
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- First,
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- We want to start with a very important topic
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- All about the courts and how do we navigate
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- What we are seeing, which is this
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- This pattern of judges that are interfere
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- With president trump's
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- Agenda and the agenda that people voted for?
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- Well, no better person to talk about that.
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- And also, more broadly,
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- How to beat the left in court is the author of the new book
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- On the last line of defense,
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- How to beat the left in court by senator eric schmitt
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- From the great state of missouri.
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- Senator, great to see you.
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- Please tell us about your new book.
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- Yeah. i'm excited.
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- It's available on amazon right now.
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- Charlie, i think your audience is going to love it.
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- It's really sort of a field manual of what it's like
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- To be on the front lines, battling this left left
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- Wing lawfare machine and winning.
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- When i was attorney general in missouri,
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- We saw the landscape we took on the left.
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- Whether it was the vaccine mandate case,
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- The covid vaccine mandate case, we took that supreme court.
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- We won the student loan debt forgiveness case, missouri
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- Took that to the supreme court, and we won.
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- We filed the missouri versus biden
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- Case that exposed this vast censorship enterprise.
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- In that in the book that's available
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- Now, you can read about the
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- Deposition of anthony fauci, the deposition about elvis,
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- And the deposition of
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- Of somebody from cisa who most people never heard of
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- That organization.
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- They were working to suppress speech.
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- The cdc, working with the federal
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- Government to suppress speech.
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- So i just thought it was important
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- To to sort of talk about what our playbook can be,
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- What it was like to win those fights
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- And really hold the line until president
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- Trump could get back into office.
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- And now what does that
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- Playbook look like
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- As we fight the battles to make sure
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- That the will of the people
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- Actually is able to move forward?
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- Now that president trump kind of broke
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- This fever dream that we were in for four years,
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- Let let's read this from the book.
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- Quote,
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- History will show the biden administration
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- Brought the most aggressively liberal, authoritarian and anti
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- Liberty excesses of government that america has ever seen.
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- This book tells the story of how eric schmidt and his small
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- But mighty team
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- Held the line
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- During those dark days until the calvary arrived.
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- Tell us more about that.
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- Because you were you were really holding the line.
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- And i mean, from fauci to censorship,
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- It's also a model how one state attorney general's
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- Office in missouri could have nationwide implications.
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- Tell us more, senator.
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- Yeah.
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- I mean, i think, charlie, the first part of the book,
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- Which again, you can go on amazon right now
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- And order it, the first part of the book.
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- I think there's a tendency to sort of
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- Now that we're kind of
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- On the other side of that fever dream
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- I talked about, about how this was all inevitable, right?
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- That it was inevitable that president trump would get back.
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- But you got to go back four years or
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- So into those dark days post january 6th.
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- This was the time of, you know, lockdowns,
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- Assistant compulsory covid shots, forced
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- Masking of kids.
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- Sj g d struggle sessions
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- In this vast censorship enterprise.
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- And what you needed was courage.
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- So like, for example,
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- When we brought these cases, they were ridicule.
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- They were, you know, sort of
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- Lending to quote unquote, conspiracy theories.
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- But really, what it takes right now
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- Is authentic leadership to stand up and fight back.
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- And so we did that.
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- And, you know, i'll just take the student
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- Loan debt forgiveness case.
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- If missouri hadn't
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- Brought that, we had the standing
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- Because missouri had some loan servicing agency.
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- If we hadn't brought that case there, you know,
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- But biden would have got away with a half $1 trillion worth
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- Of student loan debt forgiveness that the waitress
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- And the truck driver would've had to pay for the student
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- Loan debt of a theater professor from from harvard.
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- I mean, this was insanity.
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- This was, you know,
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- Playgrounds being, you know, roped off with police tape.
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- This was five year olds
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- Being forced to wear masks all day long.
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- This was parents being investigated
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- For show up to school board meetings.
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- I think it's important.
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- There's a chuck writer, milan kundera,
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- Who says that basically the struggle against power
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- Is the the fight between memory and forgetting.
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- And i think it's important to remember where we were at,
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- The courage that it takes to stand up and be that
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- Last line of defense, which is the title of the book.
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- And ultimately, the cavalry did arrive.
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- The american people rejected
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- The excesses of the biden administration.
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- President trump
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- Was able to come back now with this band of disruptors
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- And all the good things that we're seeing right now.
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- But really, at that time, in that four year period,
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- It was really left to some unknown folks.
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- I put myself in that who stood up and said, you know what?
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- This is craziness.
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- And we're going to use the law
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- And common sense to beat it back. yeah.
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- And so so, senator, what now is the blueprint
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- For some of the lawfare
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- That we're experiencing from these judges?
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- It's a different type of lawfare, right.
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- But they are preventing president trump from doing
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- The most essential actions of his presidency.
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- We have well over 80
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- To 100 of injunctions, i think 20 nationwide injunctions.
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- It is about delaying.
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- It is stalling. so it's a little bit different.
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- But how do you, as a legal mind,
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- How do you recommend that this administration accelerate
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- And push through?
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- Because what it does is it creates a sense of
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- Demoralization where they come up with a great idea
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- And then they'll say, well, if we do it, then
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- A judge is going to strike it down.
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- They want to try to demoralize the creativity and the forward
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- Boundary pushing mandate that this administration has.
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- Senator.
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- Well, i think it's important to understand the difference.
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- What we were doing was
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- We were fighting against the excesses,
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- The overreach of government
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- And the suppression of individual rights.
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- What they're trying to do
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- Now is to reimpose that they want that government.
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- They want the administrative state to be empowered,
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- And they want the individuals.
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- I mean, they're totally fine with, by the way, censorship,
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- As long as it's conservative, is being censored.
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- So i think it's a very different perspective.
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- And by the way, the american people are with us.
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- So the question is, how do we win?
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- Well, if you look at it now, interestingly,
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- My solicitor general when i was missouri
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- Attorney general was john sauer.
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- John sauer is the solicitor
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- General of the united states of america.
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- Now, president trump, brought him on.
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- He's doing a great job.
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- And as you look at these cases,
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- As they make their way up from the,
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- You know, random district court decision
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- To the appellate courts and ultimately supreme court,
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- We're fighting back and we are winning.
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- You look at the nationwide injunction issue early on.
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- There were a bunch of them.
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- The supreme court
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- Finally stepped in at the urging of president
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- Trump and his legal team to say, you know what?
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- There's been this abuse of, nationwide injunctions.
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- You can't do that.
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- You can really only confine your decision
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- To the district by which you're ruling.
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- You look at the deportations
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- President trump wanted to get rid of,
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- The temporary protective status the supreme court has said.
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- Yeah, the president has the ability to go do that,
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- Even though a district court said you couldn't do it.
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- You look at programing and personnel.
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- I think of the doj's stuff.
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- The president is certainly within his authority
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- As the leader of the article
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- Two branch to make those kinds of personnel decisions.
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- And the supreme court has affirmed that.
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- So if you look at one decision here, there,
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- It can be depressing in some ways,
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- Like they take boasberg, for example.
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- That was really,
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- You know, he took the case he never should have had
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- And ruled against president trump.
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- But time and time again, these district court judges
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- Now were really radical, have been pushed back
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- As you make your way through the court system.
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- So the lesson here is we have to have the courage
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- To fight back.
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- I think for a long time, conservatives, those
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- On the right, we sort of ceded that territory to the left.
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- You know, they called it a living constitution.
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- They had their activist lawyers, they had their judges.
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- Now, president
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- Trump has put in 200 plus judges in his first term.
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- We have a conservative supreme court.
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- He's going to be appointing more.
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- But we have to have courage to stand up
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- In that article three branch, and we can win if we do it.
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- Centered. let's keep you for another segment.
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- Because i do want to now
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- Touch on the zelensky ukraine, russia stuff.
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- Because the us senate is heavily involved in that.
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- It's right over israel's border.
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- There are thousands of christians and druze
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- Who are being targeted and killed.
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- I'm going to close the door.
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- Your vision.
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- But for us, the fellowship cannot stand by and watch.
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- We are sending aid in.
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- Most of the world is oblivious to what's happened
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- To thousands of people who have lost their lives.
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- No food, no medicine.
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- We're standing in the middle of america
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- Who will be in the hands of jews and christians alike.
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- I'm proud of the international fellowship of christians
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- And jews to reach inside these most hostile territories
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- And save human lives, wherever it's needed.
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- We will continue to save lives of our brothers and sisters.
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- We will continue to give hope.
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- To learn more, please go to ifc.org.
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- Senator.
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- Right now, zelensky is preparing
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- To visit the white house.
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- We had the anchorage summit back on friday.
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- Your thoughts as a u.s.
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- Senator on what president trump is trying to accomplish here?
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- I'm just really grateful that we have a president
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- That's engaged in diplomacy.
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- That's what this whole thing is about.
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- President trump is trying to bring the parties together.
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- He's trying to get to a peace deal.
- 00:10:19.637 --> 00:10:20.838
- This thing is a meat grinder right now.
- 00:10:20.838 --> 00:10:23.040
- It's a war of attrition.
- 00:10:23.040 --> 00:10:24.675
- Over a million people have died
- 00:10:24.675 --> 00:10:26.377
- Tens of thousands every month.
- 00:10:26.377 --> 00:10:27.745
- And so he's trying to find some resolution.
- 00:10:27.745 --> 00:10:30.081
- And i do think it's interesting.
- 00:10:30.081 --> 00:10:31.282
- I was on fox news sunday last night at jake sullivan or
- 00:10:31.282 --> 00:10:33.984
- Yesterday, and jake sullivan was on before me.
- 00:10:33.984 --> 00:10:36.387
- And the criticism you hear from those in the mainstream media
- 00:10:36.387 --> 00:10:39.857
- And on the left
- 00:10:39.857 --> 00:10:41.092
- Are coming from people that have been wrong
- 00:10:41.092 --> 00:10:42.793
- About almost every foreign policy issue the last 30 years.
- 00:10:42.793 --> 00:10:46.530
- Jake sullivan in the biden administration presided over
- 00:10:46.530 --> 00:10:48.999
- The disastrous withdrawal from afghanistan.
- 00:10:48.999 --> 00:10:51.102
- The actual invasion of ukraine in 2023.
- 00:10:51.102 --> 00:10:54.572
- And if you remember, he was also the one
- 00:10:54.572 --> 00:10:56.340
- That was sitting there on the stage on october
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- Second, 2023 and,
- 00:10:58.542 --> 00:11:02.213
- You know, proclaimed that the middle east
- 00:11:02.213 --> 00:11:03.481
- Was as quiet as it's been in decades.
- 00:11:03.481 --> 00:11:05.049
- And five days later, you saw what happened on october 7th.
- 00:11:05.049 --> 00:11:08.018
- So these folks have gotten it wrong.
- 00:11:08.018 --> 00:11:09.787
- The plan under biden was just keep sending
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- American money over there
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- Without a plan and have a blank check.
- 00:11:14.458 --> 00:11:16.193
- No accountability.
- 00:11:16.193 --> 00:11:17.128
- Don't ask the europeans to step up.
- 00:11:17.128 --> 00:11:18.562
- And president trump has changed that,
- 00:11:18.562 --> 00:11:19.964
- Thankfully, to say, you know what?
- 00:11:19.964 --> 00:11:21.599
- We need to bring this,
- 00:11:21.599 --> 00:11:24.301
- War to a negotiated peace.
- 00:11:24.301 --> 00:11:26.971
- Step one was engaging putin.
- 00:11:26.971 --> 00:11:29.140
- Step two now is engaging zelensky
- 00:11:29.140 --> 00:11:31.108
- And other and other european allies.
- 00:11:31.108 --> 00:11:33.444
- And then i'm sure
- 00:11:33.444 --> 00:11:34.712
- There'll be a step three here where the parties come together
- 00:11:34.712 --> 00:11:36.580
- And hopefully something can worked out.
- 00:11:36.580 --> 00:11:37.815
- But this doesn't happen overnight.
- 00:11:37.815 --> 00:11:39.116
- As you know, charlie, this is like real work.
- 00:11:39.116 --> 00:11:40.718
- This isn't some white paper.
- 00:11:40.718 --> 00:11:42.686
- This is personalities.
- 00:11:42.686 --> 00:11:43.888
- These are national interests.
- 00:11:43.888 --> 00:11:45.589
- And he's trying to bring the parties together.
- 00:11:45.589 --> 00:11:47.958
- And it's very telling.
- 00:11:47.958 --> 00:11:49.527
- Putin flies all the way across the land mass of asia
- 00:11:49.527 --> 00:11:52.396
- To come to the united states soil.
- 00:11:52.396 --> 00:11:54.398
- The response from the media,
- 00:11:54.398 --> 00:11:55.733
- Of course, they're they're undermining.
- 00:11:55.733 --> 00:11:58.469
- Yeah, they're consistently undermining president trump's
- 00:11:58.469 --> 00:12:02.306
- Attempts to try and seek reconciliation and peace.
- 00:12:02.306 --> 00:12:05.609
- Let's play cut.
- 00:12:05.976 --> 00:12:06.610
- 326 i want you to respond.
- 00:12:06.610 --> 00:12:08.379
- I know you have to be very respectful in this way.
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- Respond to your colleague, senator chris murphy.
- 00:12:10.214 --> 00:12:12.750
- He had a completely different reading, a different universe.
- 00:12:12.750 --> 00:12:17.154
- And i do think it's worthy to have your response here at 326.
- 00:12:17.154 --> 00:12:20.624
- Please.
- 00:12:20.624 --> 00:12:21.392
- That meeting was a disaster.
- 00:12:21.992 --> 00:12:24.361
- It was an embarrassment for the united states.
- 00:12:24.361 --> 00:12:26.497
- It was a failure.
- 00:12:26.497 --> 00:12:28.432
- Putin got everything he wanted.
- 00:12:28.432 --> 00:12:29.700
- I mean, first of all, he wanted that photo op, right?
- 00:12:29.700 --> 00:12:32.236
- He wanted to be absolved of his war crimes
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- In front of the world.
- 00:12:35.272 --> 00:12:36.740
- He was invited to the united states.
- 00:12:36.740 --> 00:12:38.342
- War criminals are not normally invited to the united states.
- 00:12:38.342 --> 00:12:41.178
- President trump said he wanted a ceasefire.
- 00:12:41.178 --> 00:12:43.380
- It appears the ceasefire wasn't even seriously discussed.
- 00:12:43.380 --> 00:12:46.750
- And then third, there's no consequences, trump said.
- 00:12:46.750 --> 00:12:50.221
- If i don't get a ceasefire, putin is going to pay a price.
- 00:12:50.221 --> 00:12:53.791
- And then he walked
- 00:12:53.791 --> 00:12:54.558
- That out of that meeting saying,
- 00:12:54.558 --> 00:12:55.826
- I didn't get a ceasefire, i didn't get a peace deal.
- 00:12:55.826 --> 00:12:58.495
- And so putin walks away with his photo op
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- With zero commitments made and zero consequences.
- 00:13:01.232 --> 00:13:04.835
- What a great day for russia.
- 00:13:04.835 --> 00:13:07.271
- Okay, first of all, how does he know any of that?
- 00:13:07.271 --> 00:13:09.273
- He was not in the room
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- Or associated your response, senator eric schmidt?
- 00:13:10.374 --> 00:13:13.344
- I mean,
- 00:13:13.577 --> 00:13:14.545
- The democrats on this point in particular
- 00:13:14.545 --> 00:13:15.613
- Are totally intellectually bankrupt.
- 00:13:15.613 --> 00:13:17.414
- They have no ideas. they don't have a plan.
- 00:13:17.414 --> 00:13:19.416
- The follow up question should have been,
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- Senator murphy,
- 00:13:20.885 --> 00:13:21.852
- What do you propose we do about it?
- 00:13:21.852 --> 00:13:23.554
- To bring the war is that they don't have an answer.
- 00:13:23.554 --> 00:13:25.923
- I sit in the senate. i'm in the senate.
- 00:13:25.923 --> 00:13:28.325
- I listen to these guys
- 00:13:28.325 --> 00:13:29.526
- Talk on the senate floor about how
- 00:13:29.526 --> 00:13:31.662
- You need to stand up to putin, and we need to do they
- 00:13:31.662 --> 00:13:34.798
- Their way, hasn't worked like
- 00:13:34.798 --> 00:13:37.668
- Ukraine is not on the verge of victory here.
- 00:13:37.668 --> 00:13:40.137
- Right? this is a meat grinder.
- 00:13:40.137 --> 00:13:41.972
- This is sadly that is the deal.
- 00:13:41.972 --> 00:13:43.841
- So there have to be like adult conversations.
- 00:13:43.841 --> 00:13:47.211
- And you have to be willing
- 00:13:47.211 --> 00:13:48.312
- To engage people that you don't want
- 00:13:48.312 --> 00:13:50.414
- Necessarily to date your daughter.
- 00:13:50.414 --> 00:13:52.549
- Right.
- 00:13:52.549 --> 00:13:53.350
- Like that's what the real world is
- 00:13:53.350 --> 00:13:55.819
- And that's what real diplomacy is.
- 00:13:55.819 --> 00:13:57.521
- And i think
- 00:13:57.521 --> 00:13:58.222
- What they're really objecting
- 00:13:58.222 --> 00:13:59.189
- To, charlie, is a shift in foreign policy here
- 00:13:59.189 --> 00:14:01.492
- From this kind of wilsonian adventurism, this globalist
- 00:14:01.492 --> 00:14:05.229
- View that america should be the cop on the beat everywhere.
- 00:14:05.229 --> 00:14:09.233
- And, you know, we don't have our own core national interest.
- 00:14:09.233 --> 00:14:11.835
- What the president is doing is reorienting all of that
- 00:14:11.835 --> 00:14:14.371
- To say our role here is to try to bring
- 00:14:14.371 --> 00:14:16.507
- These two parties together, because in the united states,
- 00:14:16.507 --> 00:14:19.610
- Life will go on. this is not you know,
- 00:14:19.610 --> 00:14:22.046
- We president trump wants peace here.
- 00:14:22.046 --> 00:14:24.248
- But having the european allies step up a little bit more,
- 00:14:24.248 --> 00:14:26.717
- If you really believe
- 00:14:26.717 --> 00:14:27.618
- That vladimir putin
- 00:14:27.618 --> 00:14:28.485
- Is some existential threat to europe,
- 00:14:28.485 --> 00:14:29.954
- Then you ought to be acting like it.
- 00:14:29.954 --> 00:14:31.322
- You ought to be providing more for your own defense.
- 00:14:31.322 --> 00:14:33.824
- And you know, our subsidization to the degree
- 00:14:33.824 --> 00:14:36.627
- That's out of balance of nato, has to be rebalanced.
- 00:14:36.627 --> 00:14:40.030
- You know, we basically subsidize their,
- 00:14:40.030 --> 00:14:42.800
- Their social welfare programs in europe.
- 00:14:42.800 --> 00:14:45.436
- All of that has to change in president trump,
- 00:14:45.436 --> 00:14:47.438
- That change agent.
- 00:14:47.438 --> 00:14:48.939
- And so i'm i'm glad that he's willing.
- 00:14:48.939 --> 00:14:51.976
- To me, it's a demonstration of strength and confidence.
- 00:14:51.976 --> 00:14:54.878
- The american leader would take that on joe biden.
- 00:14:54.878 --> 00:14:57.348
- First of all, couldn't stand up to even do that.
- 00:14:57.348 --> 00:15:01.085
- His handlers wouldn't do it because they on in many ways,
- 00:15:01.085 --> 00:15:04.555
- All this invasion
- 00:15:04.555 --> 00:15:05.556
- Happened on their watch and they had no real,
- 00:15:05.556 --> 00:15:07.558
- You know, plan.
- 00:15:07.558 --> 00:15:08.525
- So anyway, i just think this is all part
- 00:15:08.525 --> 00:15:10.494
- Of trump derangement syndrome.
- 00:15:10.494 --> 00:15:11.595
- Whatever he does, they take the opposite view.
- 00:15:11.595 --> 00:15:13.597
- They're for crime in dc now.
- 00:15:13.597 --> 00:15:15.265
- I mean, that's like it's just insane. you got to go.
- 00:15:15.265 --> 00:15:17.801
- Senator eric schmidt, thank you so much.
- 00:15:17.801 --> 00:15:19.470
- Check out the latest book by senator eric schmidt.
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- It's terrific.
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- It is on the
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- The last line of defense how to beat the left in court.
- 00:15:25.242 --> 00:15:27.911
- Thank you so much, senator schmidt.
- 00:15:27.911 --> 00:15:29.813
- We'll talk more about nato, ukraine with matthew
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- Whitaker next.
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- Ambassador to nato.
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- Thank you so much, my friend, for making the time.
- 00:16:46.359 --> 00:16:48.929
- You have a very difficult job.
- 00:16:48.929 --> 00:16:50.664
- And so you are navigating it brilliantly and really honoring
- 00:16:50.664 --> 00:16:54.534
- The president's directive.
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- And nato
- 00:16:55.635 --> 00:16:56.536
- Ambassador whitaker, give us an update
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- Of how the president is thinking about this.
- 00:16:58.605 --> 00:17:00.507
- And will ukraine
- 00:17:00.507 --> 00:17:03.310
- Be able to join nato?
- 00:17:03.310 --> 00:17:06.179
- Yeah.
- 00:17:06.413 --> 00:17:07.614
- Well, first of all, charlie, it's good to see you again.
- 00:17:07.614 --> 00:17:08.348
- Great to be on your show.
- 00:17:08.348 --> 00:17:09.583
- You know, first, i think president
- 00:17:09.583 --> 00:17:11.485
- Trump's been very clear that there, currently
- 00:17:11.485 --> 00:17:14.588
- Is no path for ukraine to join nato.
- 00:17:14.588 --> 00:17:17.557
- And it's not just a matter of snapping your fingers either
- 00:17:17.557 --> 00:17:21.161
- On who joins nato. there's 32 members.
- 00:17:21.161 --> 00:17:23.697
- Everything we do is done by a unanimous decision.
- 00:17:23.697 --> 00:17:27.400
- And so,
- 00:17:27.400 --> 00:17:28.034
- Right now
- 00:17:28.034 --> 00:17:29.002
- There's just there's there's
- 00:17:29.002 --> 00:17:30.170
- Not 32 people at the table that would vote for ascension,
- 00:17:30.170 --> 00:17:33.673
- And that would assume that ukraine
- 00:17:33.673 --> 00:17:34.975
- Could even qualify, for membership.
- 00:17:34.975 --> 00:17:37.978
- That would include
- 00:17:37.978 --> 00:17:39.079
- Some real rigorous, anti-corruption efforts that,
- 00:17:39.079 --> 00:17:42.482
- I'm not certain that they would,
- 00:17:42.482 --> 00:17:44.284
- Reach right now and many other steps.
- 00:17:44.284 --> 00:17:47.220
- But remember,
- 00:17:47.220 --> 00:17:48.522
- The one thing
- 00:17:48.522 --> 00:17:49.689
- That we need to understand about ukraine is right now,
- 00:17:49.689 --> 00:17:52.092
- They're the second largest european, army.
- 00:17:52.092 --> 00:17:56.763
- That's that's,
- 00:17:56.763 --> 00:17:58.365
- Actually the largest european army because, turkey,
- 00:17:58.365 --> 00:18:01.568
- Who is also who is in nato, is the largest army.
- 00:18:01.568 --> 00:18:05.272
- And so ukraine, does bring some advantages.
- 00:18:05.272 --> 00:18:08.074
- And their defense
- 00:18:08.074 --> 00:18:09.242
- Industrial base is by far the most productive currently.
- 00:18:09.242 --> 00:18:12.445
- And so europe, i'm encouraging all my european
- 00:18:12.445 --> 00:18:15.148
- Allies and friends to buy from the ukrainians once
- 00:18:15.148 --> 00:18:18.752
- This seat, piece is reached by president trump,
- 00:18:18.752 --> 00:18:22.556
- Because they, you know, they're going to need
- 00:18:22.556 --> 00:18:24.224
- That hard currency to rebuild their economy.
- 00:18:24.224 --> 00:18:26.193
- But they they have a lot of things to,
- 00:18:26.193 --> 00:18:29.062
- To improve before it would ever be on the table.
- 00:18:29.062 --> 00:18:31.998
- But right now,
- 00:18:31.998 --> 00:18:33.033
- You know, president trump has been very clear
- 00:18:33.033 --> 00:18:34.000
- That they're not in line and not going to be,
- 00:18:34.000 --> 00:18:36.203
- A member of nato.
- 00:18:36.203 --> 00:18:37.971
- But ultimately, that's all up to the 32 allies.
- 00:18:37.971 --> 00:18:40.907
- So so secretary of state marco rubio said that there's talk
- 00:18:40.907 --> 00:18:44.811
- About vladimir putin being open to security guarantees
- 00:18:44.811 --> 00:18:47.714
- For ukraine in return for not being in nato.
- 00:18:47.714 --> 00:18:51.051
- Would those guarantees include u.s.
- 00:18:51.051 --> 00:18:52.819
- Troops on the border of russia and ukraine?
- 00:18:52.819 --> 00:18:56.323
- I would be surprised.
- 00:18:56.823 --> 00:18:57.857
- Ultimately, that's up to president
- 00:18:57.857 --> 00:18:59.392
- Trump, who's mediating, as you know, this, war
- 00:18:59.392 --> 00:19:03.330
- And trying to bring it to a truce
- 00:19:03.330 --> 00:19:05.799
- And hopefully an enduring peace because,
- 00:19:05.799 --> 00:19:08.602
- As he says, the killing and the slaughter, need to end
- 00:19:08.602 --> 00:19:11.972
- Is a complete meat grinder where
- 00:19:11.972 --> 00:19:13.807
- Tens of thousands of soldiers every single week
- 00:19:13.807 --> 00:19:16.910
- Are dying on the battlefield, together with the collateral
- 00:19:16.910 --> 00:19:19.980
- Damage to property and to civilians.
- 00:19:19.980 --> 00:19:23.083
- And so it is, it needs to end.
- 00:19:23.083 --> 00:19:25.285
- President trump, is trying to do
- 00:19:25.285 --> 00:19:27.053
- Everything he can, obviously, to end this war.
- 00:19:27.053 --> 00:19:29.856
- But at the same time, nato won't be involved
- 00:19:29.856 --> 00:19:33.093
- In any security guarantees.
- 00:19:33.093 --> 00:19:34.361
- In fact,
- 00:19:34.361 --> 00:19:35.161
- They will be specifically out of it
- 00:19:35.161 --> 00:19:37.330
- Because again, there wouldn't be 32 allies
- 00:19:37.330 --> 00:19:39.132
- That would agree to that, framework.
- 00:19:39.132 --> 00:19:41.534
- Can you comment on the land here?
- 00:19:41.534 --> 00:19:43.570
- Because the land component of this is major
- 00:19:43.570 --> 00:19:46.573
- Russia took crimea.
- 00:19:46.573 --> 00:19:48.475
- They shouldn't have invaded.
- 00:19:48.475 --> 00:19:49.476
- It was wrong that they did it.
- 00:19:49.476 --> 00:19:51.011
- It was
- 00:19:51.011 --> 00:19:52.145
- It was a immoral action by the hands of vladimir putin.
- 00:19:52.145 --> 00:19:54.614
- But they did win significant gains in ukraine.
- 00:19:54.614 --> 00:19:58.618
- How is the land factoring in all this?
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- Because security guarantees.
- 00:20:00.186 --> 00:20:01.321
- Article five we got nato off the table.
- 00:20:01.321 --> 00:20:03.423
- Security guarantees is very, very murky
- 00:20:03.423 --> 00:20:06.126
- Because you'll
- 00:20:06.126 --> 00:20:07.394
- You can get basically the way we look at it, it's like, okay,
- 00:20:07.394 --> 00:20:09.462
- You'll get the spirit of nato without nato.
- 00:20:09.462 --> 00:20:11.131
- So not thrilled about that.
- 00:20:11.131 --> 00:20:12.465
- But what about the land?
- 00:20:12.465 --> 00:20:13.633
- I mean, there's a lot of clamoring about this.
- 00:20:13.633 --> 00:20:15.368
- Please, ambassador whitaker.
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- Yeah.
- 00:20:17.404 --> 00:20:18.071
- Well, charlie, first of all,
- 00:20:18.071 --> 00:20:19.306
- There is a lot of clamoring and to some extent right now,
- 00:20:19.306 --> 00:20:22.509
- What's going to happen soon here at the white house
- 00:20:22.509 --> 00:20:25.078
- Is the conversation with the european
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- And with president zelensky as to what what putin
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- Put on the table in alaska, why president trump determined
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- That, we could take a step forward in those negotiations
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- And in trying to get to a peace deal.
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- But, you know, i think a lot of it is yet to be determined.
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- I think even, you know, we talk about security guarantees.
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- I think there's a lot of, meat that needs to be,
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- Put on those bones.
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- I just don't think that there is a complete agreement
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- Among the coalition of the willing.
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- You know, president trump has said that the u.s.
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- Would be involved.
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- I don't think that means american troops in ukraine.
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- Now, obviously, they would love that,
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- Especially if there is an attack on one
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- As an attack on all kind of a treaty or an agreement.
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- But, you know, right now, i think president
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- Trump has earned the space to try to negotiate this.
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- I agree, and he's mediating.
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- And charlie, as you know, and so mediators oftentimes
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- See how far people can come try to get their best and final
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- And try to bring both parties to a deal.
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- That's a deal is not a great deal for either side.
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- But ultimately, i agree it gets the killing.
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- I think that's right.
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- So, like he yeah,
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- He more than earned everybody's confidence after the iran
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- Israel masterclass i mean that that.
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- And so we just got to let the master do his thing.
- 00:21:41.688 --> 00:21:44.257
- The fear that we have is all these other european actors
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- That are going to be lying to president trump along the way.
- 00:21:47.060 --> 00:21:49.329
- I know that you got to deal with them,
- 00:21:49.329 --> 00:21:50.563
- But they got a whole separate agenda.
- 00:21:50.563 --> 00:21:52.399
- And president trump had a truth social about this earlier.
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- He said, i'm convinced if russia
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- Completely surrendered and gave up all the land,
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- That the fake news meeting
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- Their democrat partners would say
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- This would be a humiliating day for president donald trump.
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- And so, just in closing here, ambassador whitaker,
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- Can you just give the audience some faith and confidence
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- That america first will be resolutely defended,
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- That we are going to have
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- A commitment
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- To this realignment of foreign policy
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- While also in the pursuit of peace,
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- Because our audience is a little bit,
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- A little bit uneasy, not a president trump,
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- Not at you, but at the european actors
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- That are trying to keep this thing unnecessarily going.
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- Final thoughts, ambassador whitaker,
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- Have my final thoughts, charlie, are quite frankly,
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- I think, you know, president
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- Trump of represents the america first movement.
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- I'm with him
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- And have been there from the beginning as you know.
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- And so, you know, we are fighting hard every single day.
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- For america first and for a resolution of this war.
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- And i would not listen to a lot of the noise
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- That you hear from the mainstream media
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- And a lot of, you know, kind of the chatter
- 00:22:52.425 --> 00:22:54.194
- That's coming out of europe, because, again,
- 00:22:54.194 --> 00:22:55.862
- That's not the deal that president trump's going to cut.
- 00:22:55.862 --> 00:22:58.465
- He's just going to see if he can get a deal done.
- 00:22:58.465 --> 00:23:01.434
- That is in the interests of the american people.
- 00:23:01.434 --> 00:23:04.170
- Because, again, this is not his war.
- 00:23:04.170 --> 00:23:05.905
- It's not america's war.
- 00:23:05.905 --> 00:23:06.973
- You know, we're not fighting this war.
- 00:23:06.973 --> 00:23:08.708
- And so ultimately,
- 00:23:08.708 --> 00:23:09.843
- I think president trump, like i mentioned,
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- And you and i know you agree, has earned our trust
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- To try to land this plane if it can be landed.
- 00:23:14.247 --> 00:23:16.883
- He has.
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- And in their discussions just reiterate it.
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- No u.s. troops.
- 00:23:20.520 --> 00:23:21.654
- That is a that is a very serious salvo here.
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- That is the last thing that we need.
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- Thank you so much, ambassador whitaker.
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- Keep up the great work.
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- You have quite a challenge ahead of you. thank you.
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- Friends just across israel's border inside syria.
- 00:23:33.933 --> 00:23:37.070
- Entire christian and druze families have been slaughtered
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- By islamic terrorists. it's shocking.
- 00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:42.809
- It's heartbreaking.
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- And the international fellowship of christians
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- And jews
- 00:23:45.512 --> 00:23:46.212
- Is there on the ground,
- 00:23:46.212 --> 00:23:47.380
- Working hand in hand with israel and the idf to respond.
- 00:23:47.380 --> 00:23:50.550
- The fellowship has rushed in over 1500 emergency food boxes.
- 00:23:50.550 --> 00:23:54.587
- They've opened
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- A brand new medical clinic in a village that had none.
- 00:23:55.755 --> 00:23:57.891
- Truckloads of medical equipment
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- And supplies went straight to hospitals
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- Because the need is so desperate.
- 00:24:01.094 --> 00:24:02.562
- This is our faith in action.
- 00:24:02.562 --> 00:24:03.897
- Israel is stopping the terrorists.
- 00:24:03.897 --> 00:24:05.598
- Now it's on us christians and jews to care
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- For the survivors,
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- To pray for the persecuted,
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- And to stand with them against evil.
- 00:24:09.802 --> 00:24:11.571
- I'm asking you to join me in
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- Standing with the international
- 00:24:12.772 --> 00:24:14.340
- Fellowship of christians and jews, right now called ifrc.
- 00:24:14.340 --> 00:24:17.143
- Jorg that is ifrc. jorg.
- 00:24:17.143 --> 00:24:19.312
- We could meet terror with compassion.
- 00:24:19.312 --> 00:24:21.047
- We can be part of bringing food, medical help
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- And hope to christian and druze communities in syria
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- Who need it most.
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