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Charlie Kirk Today | Charlie Kirk: July 16, 2025 | Charlie Kirk Today | July 16, 2025
- Brought to you in part by the
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- International fellowship of christians and jews.
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- So this is what i said yesterday.
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- Plenty was said this last weekend
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- At our event about epstein.
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- Honestly, i'm done about talking about epstein
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- For the time being.
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- Nobody not a single news outlet said.
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- For the time being,
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- They did not include that second part of the sentence.
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- I'm going to trust my friends of the administration.
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- Truth.
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- I'm going to trust kash patel, dan bongino, jd vance.
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- It's their ball. it's their possession.
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- I'm going to trust my friends
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- In the government to do what needs to be done.
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- I've said plenty this weekend and the ball is in their hands.
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- So if you guys want to see my commentary on it, that's fine.
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- We have escalatory action being taken in ukraine and russia.
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- We have tons of announcements
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- Happening when it comes to nato.
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- But let me say this again.
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- You know, my opinion about epstein, the messaging fumble.
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- I would love to see this. so again,
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- No one covered the second part of the statement.
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- No one covered it.
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- This thing has like 10 million views on social media.
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- And unfortunately, too many
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- People in our side fell for this garbage.
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- And i get it heightened.
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- I, by the way,
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- Part of this is i'm going to have some compassion.
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- This is a very hot moment.
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- Very hot.
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- And let me be clear.
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- I'm not trusting the government.
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- I'm trusting individuals that you to also trust.
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- You guys are all fans of dan bongino and kash patel.
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- We are trusting that they heard you.
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- They heard me and they are working to fix this.
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- Let me finish this.
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- But let me say this again.
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- I would love to see the doj move to unseal
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- The grand jury testimony.
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- We're going to talk about that with a guest later. the show.
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- I think this would be a big win.
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- And i would love to see that.
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- I'm going to trust my friends kash patel,
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- Dan bongino, my friend pam bondi, all these guys.
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- I'm going to trust them to solve it.
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- Ball is in their court.
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- I think there was, let's say,
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- A lot of speeches that were directed towards this topic.
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- That's it.
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- And by the way,
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- Today we're going to cover it for nearly a full hour.
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- But the media went out of its way.
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- Let's just put 323 up there on screen again.
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- All of these articles so they won't cover the essence
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- Or the story
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- Of the epstein story, but they'll cover the idea that
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- Somehow charlie kirk is moving on.
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- Never was that ever said of.
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- Nor is that the truth.
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- And guys, they heard us. trust me.
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- Student action summit was near complete messaging saturation.
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- And so, looking back, should i have said
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- Those five words in the sequence?
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- I said, here's what i should have said
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- And what i was saying.
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- And guess what?
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- You say thousands of words on a talk radio program.
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- Not all of them is as precise. you should have said.
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- So this is what i was saying.
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- Ball is in your court, guys.
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- You are my friends.
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- We got your attention.
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- Overwhelmingly. fix it.
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- That is what i was saying.
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- And this was a
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- Mockingbird media hit from our guests,
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- From a lot of people chose to bring it up
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- All over the weekend, and that's fine.
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- And to be clear, we think they can fix it.
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- So what i want to make an addendum to what was said
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- Yesterday is we're going to keep on talking about it.
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- When i said for the time being, i was talking yesterday.
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- I was telling the audience, guys,
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- I got a whole deck of stories i got to cover here.
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- You see, they want to cover maga in disarray.
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- And there is so much going on right now.
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- So excuse me,
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- While i have an obligation
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- To you in this program to talk about a rising
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- Kinetic conflict between russia and ukraine.
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- The talk about ice agents being fired upon
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- To be talking about the major issues with mom.
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- We have a minneapolis mom, dani, rising up.
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- So excuse me, while i'm going to use part of my program
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- To talk about the other issues and say,
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- Hey, possession was in the grassroots this weekend.
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- And now the possession arrow is in the hands of
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- Some of us who we all call these people friends.
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- The ball's in cassius court.
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- The ball's in dan's court.
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- The ball is in pam's court.
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- And i have, over the years, known
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- To trust these people to be able to fix it.
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- You see.
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- But what's so disappointing? not disappointing.
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- Like, to an extent, i get it, is that the maga base
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- Is so fired up about this.
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- And that's why i didn't take this a lot of the seriously
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- Is that, you know, people were incoming.
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- Charlie, why are you moving on?
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- Why are there's no one saying that?
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- No one is saying.
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- But the people are so fired up
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- That if there's even a semblance
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- That this is not going to be prioritized, people get upset.
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- And of course, i don't trust the deep state.
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- I trust people that i've known for years.
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- And what do i trust them to do?
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- I trust them that they hurt us
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- Because i know that they hurt us.
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- I know that
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- The message of the student action
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- Summit was heard around the world
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- Very clearly.
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- And if there's one thing i've learned from you guys
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- In the grassroots, in this audience,
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- You are not letting the story go.
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- I know that.
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- And never once did i tell you guys to stop talking about it.
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- This is what's so maddening about the media coverage.
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- They're so dishonest.
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- Msnbc.
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- Charlie kirk tells audience to stop talking.
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- When did i ever tell you guys to stop focusing on it?
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- When did i ever tell you to tip it?
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- To keep the pressure off? never.
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- So i hope this is a learning lesson for a lot of people
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- That might have gotten a little fired up about this.
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- The media lies to you.
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- And you should look at exactly what people are saying.
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- And also, guys look at what was done in a couple days prior.
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- If i would have said that
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- And there was no student action summit prior, okay.
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- I think like a medium
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- Level of intensity would have been justified.
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- But after hosting the radio program
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- For two days and literally over 20 hours of talking,
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- I did 20 hours of talking,
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- Half of which were on epstein this last weekend.
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- So excuse me when i say, hey, i want to talk about rising
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- Home prices,
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- And we're going to get to the story
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- Continually throughout the week.
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- Hence, for the time being.
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- And so with that
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- And all
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- Of a sudden, people, after all that we've been through
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- And all the trust that we've earned.
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- People think i'm just dropping the story.
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- It makes no sense.
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- And for those of you that saw through that crap,
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- Thank you.
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- We appreciate it.
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- But we're not going anywhere.
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- And we're definitely not losing focus on the story.
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- Lives are shattered in the holy land.
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- In an instant, these families lost everything.
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- The international fellowship
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- Of christians and jews is on the ground to provide
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- Food and shelter and emergency supplies and emergency.
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- The gift of $45 will help thousands
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- Of elderly and families with desperately needed food.
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- Call it or go online now.
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- Her whole body is bruised and wounded,
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- And it's very clear
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- That zelda is in no condition to find ways to get food.
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- Food is critical and so is shelter from attack.
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- The israeli government has asked the fellowship
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- To urgently place 1000 mobile bomb shelters.
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- You can place a mobile bomb shelter in israel.
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- Right now, all we need
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- Is for you to enable us to buy the shelters.
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- My friends, the destruction is unprecedented.
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- Please act now.
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- Since 2013 and the moore tornado.
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- We've had boots on the ground.
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- It is so important
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- Because there's
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- So many families waiting right now
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- That still don't even have power.
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- They've lost all their furniture
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- And they don't have the resources to rebuild
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- Families finding shelter where there once was only pain.
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- Our focus is to help
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- People understand how much god loves and cares for them.
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- One family at a time.
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- One family at a time.
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- Joining us now is mike benz.
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- Mike does a wonderful job.
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- Mike thank you for taking the time.
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- So mike
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- I want to keep our conversation very focused on
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- What can be done a separate time.
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- We could talk about all the unanswered questions
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- Of which there are aplenty
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- And the messaging fumble and all of that.
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- If if you were advising the president, united states,
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- If president donald trump called you up and said, mike,
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- What should i do
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- That is reasonable, what would you tell him to do?
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- I would tell him to have pam bondi walk down the hallway
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- At main justice
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- To the office of professional responsibility, opr,
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- And pull all files,
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- Related to the november 2020 opr report
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- That evaluated jeffrey epstein's 2008 plea deal.
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- In the process of that opr investigation,
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- They interviewed everyone at justice
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- Who was involved in that 2008 plea deal, jeffrey epstein,
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- And sought to put the story to bed by collecting
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- Transcribed interviews, audio, and basically reams of files
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- That the the report itself took nine months to produce
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- And 348 pages long,
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- But it leaves out the critical information
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- That's necessary for both the public
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- And the current justice department
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- To understand the epstein issue.
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- In particular, they interviewed alex acosta, the main justice
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- Department official, who gave jeffrey epstein
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- The sweetheart plea deal about epstein's intelligence ties.
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- They
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- Have a one line summary for that conversation,
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- Buried in a footnote on footnote 244.
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- Pull that transcript from doj,
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- Opr and alex acosta and make that transcript public.
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- So we know exactly what the justice department asked
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- About epstein's intelligence ties
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- And exactly what acosta, who cut the plea deal, said,
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- Okay, so let's let's let me just repeat that.
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- So this was an opr office of what,
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- Again, professional responsibility.
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- Social responsibility.
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- Internal report on jeffrey epstein, is that correct?
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- Well, they they produced it for the public.
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- This was so the here's a history of this.
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- The second indictment for for jeffrey,
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- For jeffrey epstein happened after a
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- I believe is the my miami herald published a kind
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- Of, blockbuster series in 2018
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- About the the contents of the secret
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- Plea deal that
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- The justice department cut, the fact that it had been,
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- It had been offered before the justice department
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- Even reviewed key evidence that victims were not,
- 00:11:18.770 --> 00:11:22.540
- Included in the talks about the plea deal,
- 00:11:22.540 --> 00:11:25.109
- That it had been hijacked from
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- The fbi, had been stopped from pursuing prosecution.
- 00:11:26.744 --> 00:11:30.281
- That creates a big scandal.
- 00:11:30.882 --> 00:11:32.650
- And in february 2009, in february 2019,
- 00:11:32.650 --> 00:11:36.754
- The justice department announces that it's
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- Going to be conducting this,
- 00:11:39.090 --> 00:11:42.827
- Basically special review, this office
- 00:11:43.661 --> 00:11:46.130
- Of professional responsibility, review of the epstein plea
- 00:11:46.130 --> 00:11:50.868
- Deal in response
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- To the giant outrage over the miami herald series.
- 00:11:52.303 --> 00:11:55.940
- Now, five months later, jeffrey epstein
- 00:11:55.940 --> 00:11:59.777
- In july 2019 gets arrested on july 6th, 2019.
- 00:11:59.777 --> 00:12:04.549
- Three days later, vicky ward publishes an article saying
- 00:12:04.549 --> 00:12:08.319
- Alex acosta, said that
- 00:12:08.319 --> 00:12:11.656
- Jeffrey epstein belonged to intelligence
- 00:12:11.656 --> 00:12:13.624
- And that's why he cut him the plea deal.
- 00:12:13.624 --> 00:12:15.860
- He was told to back off.
- 00:12:15.860 --> 00:12:17.829
- So here's my question.
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- So are you saying that there are transcripts
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- That could get released that were the underlying
- 00:12:21.666 --> 00:12:25.336
- Supportive material of this opr report?
- 00:12:25.336 --> 00:12:28.272
- Yes. okay. got it.
- 00:12:28.706 --> 00:12:29.841
- So you want the raw data underneath the opr report?
- 00:12:29.841 --> 00:12:33.978
- Essentially that's that's the thrust of your focus.
- 00:12:33.978 --> 00:12:37.315
- If the president was asking, hey, what do i do?
- 00:12:37.315 --> 00:12:39.784
- Yes, because the question that hangs over
- 00:12:40.651 --> 00:12:43.287
- This whole thing is
- 00:12:43.287 --> 00:12:44.922
- Did is it true, did he get the plea deal
- 00:12:44.922 --> 00:12:47.091
- Because he, quote, belonged to intelligence?
- 00:12:47.091 --> 00:12:48.826
- And if that's true, we that's
- 00:12:48.826 --> 00:12:51.662
- That's the question that just has to be answered
- 00:12:51.662 --> 00:12:54.332
- Or at least has to be attempted to be answered.
- 00:12:54.332 --> 00:12:57.268
- Because that's
- 00:12:57.268 --> 00:12:59.570
- That's really the great speculation
- 00:12:59.570 --> 00:13:02.540
- That you can't answer fully
- 00:13:02.540 --> 00:13:04.342
- Without some sort of confirmation.
- 00:13:04.342 --> 00:13:06.611
- Or at least box is being checked now.
- 00:13:06.611 --> 00:13:09.380
- Now, in that process, by the way, charlie, opr works
- 00:13:09.380 --> 00:13:12.516
- With the cia office of general counsel.
- 00:13:12.516 --> 00:13:15.319
- The office of general counsel is who coordinates
- 00:13:15.319 --> 00:13:18.289
- With the, the justice department opr.
- 00:13:18.289 --> 00:13:21.826
- Whenever there's anything sensitive or relating
- 00:13:21.826 --> 00:13:24.662
- To classified or confidential information, oftentimes, the,
- 00:13:24.662 --> 00:13:28.933
- You know,
- 00:13:29.233 --> 00:13:30.201
- Doj and cia will work together on, on any sort
- 00:13:30.201 --> 00:13:33.304
- Of classified element.
- 00:13:33.304 --> 00:13:34.372
- And i would like to know, for example,
- 00:13:34.372 --> 00:13:36.307
- I think the public has a right to know
- 00:13:36.307 --> 00:13:38.276
- In the production of this november 2020 report,
- 00:13:38.276 --> 00:13:40.611
- Because it's so strange the way it's put together.
- 00:13:40.611 --> 00:13:44.015
- I don't believe that jeffrey epstein, his intelligence
- 00:13:44.015 --> 00:13:47.451
- Aspects were primarily around blackmail.
- 00:13:47.451 --> 00:13:51.389
- I was never i've never been really interested
- 00:13:51.389 --> 00:13:53.791
- In the blackmail side of that, of this.
- 00:13:53.791 --> 00:13:55.893
- He's a he was a financier.
- 00:13:55.893 --> 00:13:58.029
- He was a financial fixer.
- 00:13:58.029 --> 00:13:59.430
- So let me just interrupt you. sorry, mike.
- 00:13:59.430 --> 00:14:00.731
- This is breaking news.
- 00:14:00.731 --> 00:14:01.766
- This is 334.
- 00:14:01.766 --> 00:14:02.967
- President
- 00:14:02.967 --> 00:14:03.834
- Trump was asked about jeffrey epstein
- 00:14:03.834 --> 00:14:05.236
- Saying that anything that is credible should be released.
- 00:14:05.236 --> 00:14:08.272
- It's funny, we said the same thing
- 00:14:08.272 --> 00:14:09.507
- Yesterday, just moments ago, like 334 what i've seen.
- 00:14:09.507 --> 00:14:13.277
- There were a few of the files i got. okay.
- 00:14:13.277 --> 00:14:15.446
- A very, very quick briefing.
- 00:14:15.446 --> 00:14:17.014
- And we tell you, what did she tell you about you
- 00:14:17.014 --> 00:14:19.283
- And specifically things
- 00:14:19.283 --> 00:14:20.418
- She tell you at all that your name appeared in the sky.
- 00:14:20.418 --> 00:14:23.454
- And so now she's, she's giving us just a very quick briefing.
- 00:14:23.454 --> 00:14:29.026
- And in terms of the credibility of the different things
- 00:14:29.026 --> 00:14:31.629
- That they've seen.
- 00:14:31.629 --> 00:14:32.897
- And i would say that, you know, these files were made up
- 00:14:32.897 --> 00:14:35.967
- By comey.
- 00:14:35.967 --> 00:14:37.101
- They were made up by obama.
- 00:14:37.101 --> 00:14:38.736
- They were made up by the biden, you know,
- 00:14:38.736 --> 00:14:41.772
- We and we went through years of that
- 00:14:41.772 --> 00:14:44.041
- With the russia, russia, russia hoax, with
- 00:14:44.041 --> 00:14:47.678
- All of the different things that we had to go through.
- 00:14:47.678 --> 00:14:49.714
- We've gone through years of it, but she's handled it
- 00:14:49.714 --> 00:14:52.249
- Very well and it's going to be up to her.
- 00:14:52.249 --> 00:14:54.352
- Whatever she thinks is credible, she should release
- 00:14:54.352 --> 00:14:59.523
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- So would it be fair
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- To say that epstein was a deep state fixer moving money
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- Around to accomplish aims which benefited elite
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- Institutions and deep state intelligence goals?
- 00:17:45.214 --> 00:17:48.251
- Is that a fair summary?
- 00:17:48.251 --> 00:17:50.720
- Yes, but i would add part time
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- Like like and this is this is the important part of
- 00:17:53.489 --> 00:17:55.925
- It is i, as i see the case, is that he's a contact.
- 00:17:55.925 --> 00:18:00.029
- He's someone they can go to on a,
- 00:18:00.029 --> 00:18:03.366
- Among among other potential,
- 00:18:03.366 --> 00:18:07.136
- You know, folks in the space is a friend of the station.
- 00:18:07.136 --> 00:18:10.673
- He is, he is someone who is there if they need it done.
- 00:18:10.673 --> 00:18:14.911
- But i don't think that that's, you know,
- 00:18:14.911 --> 00:18:17.013
- He's he's not talking to them every day.
- 00:18:17.013 --> 00:18:18.981
- He's not my guy.
- 00:18:18.981 --> 00:18:20.049
- I'm just saying, yes, i'll add to it.
- 00:18:20.049 --> 00:18:21.417
- So he found a loophole in society, intelligence,
- 00:18:21.417 --> 00:18:24.487
- Community funding to get really rich.
- 00:18:24.487 --> 00:18:27.490
- And he was just kind of like a,
- 00:18:27.490 --> 00:18:30.193
- Like a super disgusting pervert, you know, on the side
- 00:18:30.193 --> 00:18:34.497
- Or as like, you know, just there's an element of that.
- 00:18:34.497 --> 00:18:37.333
- For example, i bet that we even have these parties.
- 00:18:37.333 --> 00:18:40.603
- Not every single one of the girls
- 00:18:40.603 --> 00:18:42.138
- Was 14 years old, but like he definitely had
- 00:18:42.138 --> 00:18:46.142
- And this is well-documented, he had like a,
- 00:18:46.142 --> 00:18:48.778
- You know, fascination. he likes them.
- 00:18:48.778 --> 00:18:50.413
- Young is what people would say 13, 14, 15 years old.
- 00:18:50.413 --> 00:18:54.016
- So then let me ask you a question.
- 00:18:54.016 --> 00:18:55.952
- Then, mike, if you were granted an opportunity
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- Or anyone was granted
- 00:18:59.121 --> 00:19:00.289
- An opportunity to talk to maxwell, ghislaine maxwell,
- 00:19:00.289 --> 00:19:03.492
- What would you be most interested
- 00:19:03.492 --> 00:19:04.894
- To learn from her that she would actually tell you?
- 00:19:04.894 --> 00:19:07.730
- Like, what would she know?
- 00:19:07.730 --> 00:19:09.632
- Because she did two interviews prior, one with cbs and one
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- With like some scot, you know, some uk thing.
- 00:19:12.935 --> 00:19:15.204
- And she wants to testify.
- 00:19:15.204 --> 00:19:17.106
- Could we learn anything from her at all?
- 00:19:17.106 --> 00:19:19.976
- Mike yes, i,
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- I would ask about the specifics of financings that touched,
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- That touched, government act, government
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- Brokering of, of deals either on behalf of or in partnership
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- With government, you know, agents, government agencies,
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- Including the us, israel, saudi arabia, france,
- 00:19:40.263 --> 00:19:44.467
- The uk, and the like it was in 1991, for example,
- 00:19:44.467 --> 00:19:48.671
- When it's reported that maxwell, linked up
- 00:19:48.671 --> 00:19:52.441
- With, with ghislaine.
- 00:19:52.441 --> 00:19:53.643
- I would take that history from 1991 to, you know, call it
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- 2008 or 2019 if you want, if you want to go there.
- 00:19:57.980 --> 00:20:02.385
- And i would go, i would go basically step by step
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- Through the, through the major financing activities
- 00:20:05.354 --> 00:20:09.392
- And i would,
- 00:20:09.392 --> 00:20:10.626
- You know, because a lot of this is private, by the way, we,
- 00:20:10.626 --> 00:20:13.262
- You know, there's 100 different, transactions.
- 00:20:13.262 --> 00:20:15.698
- We know that epstein was involved
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- In attempting to broker financing for.
- 00:20:17.033 --> 00:20:19.101
- But there's a lot of these are also going to be nonpublic.
- 00:20:19.101 --> 00:20:21.537
- And because, you know, they're not
- 00:20:21.537 --> 00:20:23.706
- This is not a, you know, traded on the nasdaq.
- 00:20:23.706 --> 00:20:25.808
- And so i would go through
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- Those financial transactions, i would look at u.s.
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- State staple, state department,
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- You know, basically diplomatic and intelligence ties
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- To that, to activity around those deals.
- 00:20:35.918 --> 00:20:38.854
- And then i would look, basically at the cia files,
- 00:20:38.854 --> 00:20:42.558
- Around, around that,
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- Transaction or
- 00:20:46.395 --> 00:20:47.296
- Industry, and i would do a search for,
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- For epstein or the outside financiers, basically once
- 00:20:50.199 --> 00:20:53.869
- If you compile that list of all the different outside,
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- Financial facilitators used for activities
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- That epstein, looked like he was involved with then.
- 00:21:00.076 --> 00:21:05.548
- Because what you're going to have is you're not
- 00:21:05.548 --> 00:21:07.717
- You might not necessarily have epstein's name.
- 00:21:07.717 --> 00:21:09.618
- What you might have is, you know, a facilitator
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- With, with access to capital in the, in the, in the u.s.
- 00:21:13.356 --> 00:21:17.159
- Virgin islands.
- 00:21:17.159 --> 00:21:18.461
- And that might be what your, you know, what you have from
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- An analyst memo or some cia cable in 1993, you know, 1999.
- 00:21:21.764 --> 00:21:27.236
- And you think it's epstein,
- 00:21:27.236 --> 00:21:28.371
- But you're not really sure it's epstein.
- 00:21:28.371 --> 00:21:29.939
- When you look at
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- When you look at the analyst memo,
- 00:21:30.773 --> 00:21:32.208
- And then you can ask elaine that, hey, a cia cable
- 00:21:32.208 --> 00:21:37.079
- That's, you know, recently been declassified, refers to,
- 00:21:37.079 --> 00:21:41.117
- You know, some, some, retail, some of,
- 00:21:41.117 --> 00:21:44.987
- Some a parallel agreement that's going to,
- 00:21:44.987 --> 00:21:47.723
- You know, help
- 00:21:48.057 --> 00:21:49.158
- Basically, the retail sector on the island of haiti.
- 00:21:49.158 --> 00:21:51.594
- But actually, the,
- 00:21:51.594 --> 00:21:52.595
- You know,
- 00:21:52.595 --> 00:21:53.662
- What the cia wants to do is they want to unionize
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- All the garment workers in order to,
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- In order to use them.
- 00:21:56.732 --> 00:21:58.267
- As for street protests
- 00:21:58.267 --> 00:21:59.502
- To, you know, assist the aristide government
- 00:21:59.502 --> 00:22:02.605
- Or something like that, and it's going to be arranged
- 00:22:02.605 --> 00:22:04.073
- Through, you know, a financier, based in the u.s.
- 00:22:04.073 --> 00:22:07.977
- Virgin islands,
- 00:22:07.977 --> 00:22:09.044
- Associated with the, these, you know, redacted
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- Names of funds was jeffrey epstein, that financier.
- 00:22:11.914 --> 00:22:15.351
- Like, these are the sorts of
- 00:22:15.351 --> 00:22:16.619
- Specific questions you would want.
- 00:22:16.619 --> 00:22:18.354
- So you need them.
- 00:22:18.354 --> 00:22:19.221
- You need to have that mind mapped.
- 00:22:19.221 --> 00:22:20.990
- And i don't think that anyone
- 00:22:20.990 --> 00:22:22.158
- At the, at the, in the trump admin is even close
- 00:22:22.158 --> 00:22:26.095
- To to that when they because they're so fixated on
- 00:22:26.095 --> 00:22:29.198
- The blackmail,
- 00:22:29.198 --> 00:22:30.433
- They're so fixated on, on the kind of primal elements of it,
- 00:22:30.433 --> 00:22:34.136
- They're missing
- 00:22:34.136 --> 00:22:34.770
- Out of the functional elements
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- Of why he would belong to intelligence at all.
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- And i know you got to wrap in two minutes here,
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- So just kind of wrap it up.
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- What other immediate let's
- 00:22:42.778 --> 00:22:44.013
- Put glenn maxwell to the side because you got two minutes.
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- I'm sorry.
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- Can you just say
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- What other actions do you think could be taken immediately
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- To get to the bottom of this?
- 00:22:50.853 --> 00:22:52.655
- Because you're focused on something
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- A lot of other people or not?
- 00:22:53.956 --> 00:22:55.324
- A lot of people want client lists
- 00:22:55.324 --> 00:22:57.259
- And they want, you know, the sex stuff.
- 00:22:57.259 --> 00:23:00.296
- You're much more interested in the intelligence of the money.
- 00:23:00.296 --> 00:23:02.531
- Two minutes. mike, and then you got a dash. yeah.
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- The opr report is so simple.
- 00:23:05.301 --> 00:23:07.136
- It's right down the hallway.
- 00:23:07.136 --> 00:23:08.471
- Pam. it's there's it's it's right there.
- 00:23:08.471 --> 00:23:11.440
- And that is something that you should be able
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- To make public quickly.
- 00:23:13.476 --> 00:23:15.010
- And that way we will know.
- 00:23:15.010 --> 00:23:16.345
- Because epstein was asked if he was
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- If acosta was reportedly asked for that
- 00:23:18.147 --> 00:23:20.816
- Opr report, if epstein was an intelligence asset.
- 00:23:20.816 --> 00:23:23.652
- And like i keep saying, that is not the question.
- 00:23:23.652 --> 00:23:25.988
- Asset is not the word asset has a formal file.
- 00:23:25.988 --> 00:23:29.992
- You're going to find this as a facilitator.
- 00:23:29.992 --> 00:23:32.661
- And i would i would encourage the folks,
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- Investigating this
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- To do a deep study on figures like bruce rappaport,
- 00:23:35.764 --> 00:23:38.968
- Figures like marc rich, figures like adnan khashoggi,
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- Figures like the, the, the, the head of the bcci bank
- 00:23:42.238 --> 00:23:45.841
- And the like.
- 00:23:45.841 --> 00:23:46.675
- This is what you are looking for,
- 00:23:46.675 --> 00:23:48.777
- In the epstein intelligence connection.
- 00:23:48.777 --> 00:23:51.313
- And you need to be able to issue spot that.
- 00:23:51.313 --> 00:23:53.516
- But first make the opr report
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- Transcripts with the cost of public
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- And then
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- And then everything
- 00:23:57.887 --> 00:23:58.854
- Around the cia office of general counsel,
- 00:23:58.854 --> 00:24:00.856
- As well as the personal correspondence of bill barr
- 00:24:00.856 --> 00:24:03.325
- And jeffrey rosen, as the opr report was being
- 00:24:03.325 --> 00:24:06.028
- Was being put together about the intelligence ties.
- 00:24:06.028 --> 00:24:08.697
- Show us you've done that.
- 00:24:08.697 --> 00:24:10.633
- You know,
- 00:24:10.633 --> 00:24:11.734
- One month from now, be able to tell us or two weeks
- 00:24:11.734 --> 00:24:14.336
- From now, be able to tell us in a press conference
- 00:24:14.336 --> 00:24:16.305
- That you look at that opr report
- 00:24:16.305 --> 00:24:18.140
- And you're making it public so that we can check this off
- 00:24:18.140 --> 00:24:20.876
- The box.
- 00:24:20.876 --> 00:24:21.911
- And, and it'll be a show of good faith.
- 00:24:21.911 --> 00:24:24.380
- I think that the public will greatly appreciate.
- 00:24:24.380 --> 00:24:26.815
- God bless you, mike pence. we'll have you on too soon.
- 00:24:26.815 --> 00:24:29.218
- Thank you so much. really appreciate it. thanks, charlie.
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