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  • Brought to you in part by the
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  • International fellowship of christians and jews.
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  • Yesterday something really important happened.
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  • And all the headlines are focused
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  • On the optics and the esthetics
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  • And the visuals, which is fine, but it's deeper than that.
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  • Yesterday was the 80 year anniversary of victory day
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  • Or the essentially the founding
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  • Of the chinese communist party.
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  • The visuals were obviously impressive.
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  • Look, totalitarian countries, they do military parades
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  • Quite well.
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  • They're able to mobilize everything
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  • Without any of the media clamoring or yammering.
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  • And it was impressive.
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  • From the nuclear arsenal to their investments
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  • In the military,
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  • The chinese communist party wanted to put on full display
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  • For the rest of the world.
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  • And especially
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  • It really was all designed for an audience of one.
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  • The military parade was really designed for one person.
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  • And that person, of course, is president donald trump.
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  • The chinese were doing, as you can see, propaganda
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  • Of their bombers and of their aircraft.
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  • They're investing billions and billions of dollars
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  • In their military.
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  • Now, their military is still a fraction
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  • Of our entire military investment.
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  • It's still about 200 to $300 billion a year.
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  • However, you have to wonder,
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  • Even though they spend a fraction that we do,
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  • They probably don't have the bloat and the waste
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  • And the government contractors that we do.
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  • You have to wonder if they're able
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  • To spread that a little bit more than we do.
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  • We waste a ton of money on our military,
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  • A ton of money on lockheed martin and northrop grumman.
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  • However, i think there is definitely
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  • Still an admission from independent analysts
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  • That we have military
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  • Weaponry and technology that they still do not have.
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  • We pay soldiers a ton of money.
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  • They do not.
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  • They're able to draft anyone they want.
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  • They're a country of 770 million able bodied people
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  • And a country of well over a billion individuals.
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  • They have hypersonic missiles
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  • That we may be behind on some weapons.
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  • They might have hypersonic missiles that we don't have.
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  • By the way,
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  • I'm putting these visuals up on screen here
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  • Because we have focused on a lot of different topics
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  • Mass migration, the islamism rising in the west.
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  • But i think what yesterday should be a
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  • Reminder is a little bit of a
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  • Early fall wake up call.
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  • We already know that the chinese communist party
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  • Is a great threat to us, but me even saying that
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  • Is important.
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  • Let's ask the
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  • Very simple question what is china?
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  • Is china our friend?
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  • Are they a rival like joe biden called them?
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  • Are they an adversary?
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  • I think they're an enemy of the united states of america.
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  • I've said it once and i'll say it again
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  • They have internationalist ambitions.
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  • They want to expand their territory.
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  • Now, does that mean, i believe that we should
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  • Go to a kinetic conflict against them?
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  • Of course not.
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  • But we need to start treating them at the very least
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  • Like a serious rival.
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  • At the very least,
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  • The chinese communist party just threw an inside fastball.
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  • That was a brush back pitch yesterday.
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  • And not only did they have that,
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  • They brought vladimir putin, they brought kim jong un,
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  • They brought a lot of the other tyrannical autocrats
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  • From the region
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  • In a massive show of force.
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  • Oh, there's the vice president of china.
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  • I actually met that guy.
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  • Can we get we should get that picture.
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  • I met i, i
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  • There's one of the funniest story,
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  • I think i told the vice president of china story one,
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  • And i think i told them
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  • When i met him at the inauguration,
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  • I went up and asked for a picture.
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  • And then i think they tapped my phone.
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  • This is a much tougher rivalry than the cold war,
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  • And we just got to be honest about it.
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  • The soviet union was hobbled by a terrible, terrible economy.
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  • You see, the soviet union, they were pure ideologues.
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  • They really were.
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  • The soviet union had a council of actual marxists
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  • That refuse to ever embrace market principles.
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  • They were actual ideologues.
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  • The chinese economic model is a lot different.
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  • It's far more pragmatic.
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  • They're basically what works, what makes us rich.
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  • If we have to liberalize some areas, we will.
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  • But if we have to be totalitarian in other ways,
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  • We'll also do that.
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  • The chinese communist party's
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  • Economy is still not as big as ours.
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  • It's still not.
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  • The latest gdp numbers show the chinese communist
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  • Parties may be around 18 to $20 trillion.
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  • We're around 27 to $28 trillion.
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  • We owe a lot more money. by the way.
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  • Our national debt is way above the chinese communist party.
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  • National debt.
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  • President trump is rebuilding our military,
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  • But you have to wonder, for every $1 that we spend our
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  • And our military,
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  • I would just conjecture
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  • The chinese communist party is able
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  • To probably spend like $0.25.
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  • I bet they get way more bang
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  • For their buck on military spending than we do.
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  • And we can't always see this in terms of money.
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  • That's a very important thing.
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  • This is about who is going to win and own the 21st century.
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  • We need to see this in terms of real strength.
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  • Are we innovative or are we merit based?
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  • Are we entrepreneurial?
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  • Are we unified?
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  • Are we strong?
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  • Are we aspiration? people
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  • Forget all the economic data right now.
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  • Yes, we have the incumbent advantage.
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  • Can we make stuff? it takes all.
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  • I mean, just for example,
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  • We're doing this construction project
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  • At turning point usa to install a gate
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  • And it is the most bureaucratic.
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  • It's taken literally like a year
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  • And a half to install a very simple gate.
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  • And i thought i turned to my team
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  • The other day outside of this whole victory day parade.
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  • I said in china, this would take like a week.
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  • In china, this would just take a week.
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  • You just wave a hand and you get it done.
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  • Now, in some ways it's bad.
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  • It would probably not be up to code or whatever,
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  • But china's
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  • They're able to source rare earth minerals,
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  • They're able to build new factories.
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  • They're able to roll out new robots.
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  • We increasingly have difficulty doing those things.
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  • Now. i'm not i'm not painting a humorous picture.
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  • There's a lot of advantages we have over
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  • The chinese communist party.
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  • But i got to be honest, when i, i went to a national forest
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  • National park over the weekend,
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  • Sedona, it's actually not park national forest
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  • And there was product sold by the us government.
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  • This drove me nuts.
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  • And this is not a criticism.
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  • President trump
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  • Inherited it from joe biden, but we got to fix it.
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  • The department of interior is selling
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  • Merchandise made in china.
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  • Our own us government is selling merchandise that
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  • Is made in china.
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  • We don't make stuff
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  • Anymore, but we should.
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  • In genesis
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  • 12 three, god made a powerful promise
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  • To abraham, the father of the jewish people.
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  • I will bless those who bless you.
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  • The christian bible tells us
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  • That we have been grafted into god's family tree.
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  • The rich olive tree of israel,
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  • The very foundations of the christian faith,
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  • The bible and jesus, whom christians call
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  • The messiah, are deeply rooted in israel.
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  • Supporting israel aligns christians with god's
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  • Prophetic timeline.
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  • It demonstrates our willingness to be instruments of
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  • God's blessing, uplifting his chosen people,
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  • And it calls us to confront and heal
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  • The centuries old wounds of anti-semitism.
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  • The scripture says how good and how
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  • Pleasant it is when brethren dwell together.
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  • You can be part of this historic movement
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  • Of bringing light to our world.
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  • Learn more by going to ifc.
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  • J.org today.
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  • J.org today.
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  • In order for us to keep
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  • Talking about china, it's very important
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  • That all of you in the audience know the name and the book.
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  • First, francis fukuyama
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  • And the book the end of history and the last man.
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  • It was published in 1992.
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  • Remember the context of when this book was published?
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  • This book was published right after
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  • The fall of the soviet union.
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  • This was peak neoliberal arrogance.
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  • This was about the crescendo of the ruling class of the west
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  • That believed that
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  • This was the end of all human government,
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  • That liberal democracy had emerged as literally
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  • The final form of human government.
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  • The claim wasn't that history literally ends, but
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  • That the ideological evolution has reached its end point.
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  • No rival system at the time in 1992 seemed capable of
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  • Challenging liberal democracy in legitimacy or performance.
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  • We assumed the american way had won forever,
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  • And i was raised in this context.
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  • I was told by teachers, i was told by professionals.
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  • Charlie, the more that we trade with china,
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  • Soon they're going to be wearing levi jeans
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  • And having mcdonald's in tiananmen square,
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  • And they'll be listening on their ipods.
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  • And once they do that, they're going to embrace free speech.
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  • They're going to embrace
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  • American values, and they will radicalize
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  • And decouple from totalitarianism.
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  • This book, the end of history
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  • In the last man by francis fukuyama, without a doubt,
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  • Was one of the most important,
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  • Arrogant theses of the 1990s.
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  • It set the tone for the american ruling class.
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  • Because the wall had fallen, the enemy of the soviet
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  • Union collapsed.
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  • We did it without having to go to a kinetic war,
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  • And felt as if we did not just win a war, but we won an
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  • Ideological battle, and boy, did we get cocky.
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  • Our leaders assumed anybody who came to america from
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  • China will decide america's way is better than china's,
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  • And either
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  • Join our team or fight to make china be on our side.
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  • But if you really think about it, if you come here today
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  • From china, what are you likely to think?
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  • Our cities are filthy, they're murderous, they're dangerous.
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  • And as we have declined in virtue in our country,
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  • It's much harder to have liberty
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  • When you do not have virtue,
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  • When you do not have a virtuous people,
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  • When you do not have strong families,
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  • When you do not have people
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  • Going to church, liberty quickly becomes license.
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  • Bill clinton articulated this best.
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  • Bill clinton
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  • Celebrated the entrance of the chinese communist party
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  • Into the world trade organization.
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  • I want you to put up the b-roll again of the of the
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  • The chinese military. please.
  • 00:10:34.483 --> 00:10:36.752
  • The chinese military with their tanks
  • 00:10:36.752 --> 00:10:38.387
  • And their missiles rolling the streets.
  • 00:10:38.387 --> 00:10:41.156
  • You guys paid for that?
  • 00:10:41.156 --> 00:10:43.225
  • This is paid for by the u.s.
  • 00:10:43.225 --> 00:10:45.227
  • Citizen.
  • 00:10:45.227 --> 00:10:47.196
  • This is paid for by your beanie babies.
  • 00:10:47.196 --> 00:10:49.865
  • This is paid for by your baseballs.
  • 00:10:49.865 --> 00:10:53.368
  • This is paid for by your textile.
  • 00:10:53.368 --> 00:10:55.437
  • Hey, that's paid for
  • 00:10:55.437 --> 00:10:56.405
  • By your vitamin c and by your antibiotics.
  • 00:10:56.405 --> 00:10:58.807
  • Bill clinton helped design this order,
  • 00:10:59.641 --> 00:11:01.810
  • But this was all because of fukuyama's argument.
  • 00:11:01.810 --> 00:11:05.013
  • This is very important.
  • 00:11:05.013 --> 00:11:06.281
  • Fukuyama gave them the arrogance
  • 00:11:06.281 --> 00:11:08.417
  • That if we
  • 00:11:08.417 --> 00:11:09.551
  • Started trading with china, we would get super rich.
  • 00:11:09.551 --> 00:11:12.588
  • The economic elite would then be able to have more capital,
  • 00:11:12.588 --> 00:11:16.358
  • And then china would liberalize.
  • 00:11:16.358 --> 00:11:17.860
  • And the whole world would live in liberal democratic harmony.
  • 00:11:17.860 --> 00:11:22.664
  • That sounds so dumb when i say it today, now in 2025.
  • 00:11:22.664 --> 00:11:26.802
  • But that's exactly the context of which all these decisions
  • 00:11:26.802 --> 00:11:29.905
  • Were made.
  • 00:11:29.905 --> 00:11:30.939
  • World trade organization, nafta, like up 393,
  • 00:11:30.939 --> 00:11:35.277
  • Bringing china into the
  • 00:11:35.778 --> 00:11:36.945
  • Wto is a win win decision.
  • 00:11:36.945 --> 00:11:41.049
  • It will protect our prosperity disparity
  • 00:11:41.049 --> 00:11:43.685
  • And it will promote the right kind of change in china.
  • 00:11:43.685 --> 00:11:46.688
  • It is good for our farmers,
  • 00:11:47.289 --> 00:11:48.690
  • For our manufacturers and for our investors.
  • 00:11:48.690 --> 00:11:52.161
  • Encouraging china to play by international rules, i say
  • 00:11:52.161 --> 00:11:55.264
  • Again, is an important step toward a safer, saner world.
  • 00:11:55.264 --> 00:12:00.369
  • Now, instead of china changing, we've actually become
  • 00:12:00.369 --> 00:12:03.105
  • More like china.
  • 00:12:03.105 --> 00:12:04.573
  • Not in the good ways, by the way.
  • 00:12:04.573 --> 00:12:05.908
  • Less free speech, more oligarchic governance
  • 00:12:05.908 --> 00:12:08.844
  • And top an untouchable billionaire class.
  • 00:12:08.844 --> 00:12:11.680
  • We became more like them.
  • 00:12:11.680 --> 00:12:13.148
  • They did not adapt. they did not liberalize.
  • 00:12:13.148 --> 00:12:15.417
  • They don't have free speech.
  • 00:12:15.417 --> 00:12:16.451
  • You can't challenge the government.
  • 00:12:16.451 --> 00:12:17.619
  • You can't own firearms.
  • 00:12:17.619 --> 00:12:18.754
  • China is more totalitarian than they
  • 00:12:18.754 --> 00:12:20.656
  • Were either in the 1990s.
  • 00:12:20.656 --> 00:12:22.057
  • And this is where
  • 00:12:22.057 --> 00:12:23.091
  • All the experts, again, which should
  • 00:12:23.091 --> 00:12:24.526
  • Just be completely discounted.
  • 00:12:24.526 --> 00:12:25.961
  • They're like, well, you can't have economic liberty
  • 00:12:25.961 --> 00:12:28.030
  • Without personal liberty. oh yeah, you can.
  • 00:12:28.030 --> 00:12:29.498
  • China's proven you can.
  • 00:12:29.498 --> 00:12:30.766
  • You can own stuff and be hyper materialistic
  • 00:12:30.766 --> 00:12:32.467
  • And have no other personal freedom.
  • 00:12:32.467 --> 00:12:34.570
  • You can go to the mall and shop and do stuff
  • 00:12:34.570 --> 00:12:36.371
  • And still not be able to go to church.
  • 00:12:36.371 --> 00:12:42.311
  • The 1990s
  • 00:12:42.611 --> 00:12:45.047
  • Francis fukuyama, end of history, bill
  • 00:12:45.047 --> 00:12:46.748
  • Clinton the dot.com era.
  • 00:12:46.748 --> 00:12:49.618
  • We won.
  • 00:12:49.618 --> 00:12:51.019
  • And instead of entering the victory with humility,
  • 00:12:51.019 --> 00:12:53.889
  • We also did the 1990 immigration act.
  • 00:12:53.889 --> 00:12:55.924
  • We opened up our borders to the entire world.
  • 00:12:55.924 --> 00:12:57.860
  • And now, in 2025, we are reckoning
  • 00:12:57.860 --> 00:13:00.729
  • With the consequences of the cockiness
  • 00:13:00.729 --> 00:13:03.899
  • Of the leaders of the 1990s.
  • 00:13:03.899 --> 00:13:06.501
  • So much of what we are living through
  • 00:13:06.501 --> 00:13:09.404
  • Is because of the arrogance
  • 00:13:09.404 --> 00:13:11.206
  • And the pride of a ruling class in america
  • 00:13:11.206 --> 00:13:15.110
  • That saw the wall fall in berlin
  • 00:13:15.110 --> 00:13:19.214
  • And said, we won, baby.
  • 00:13:19.715 --> 00:13:22.050
  • Bring in the foreigners, import the plastic, make us rich.
  • 00:13:22.050 --> 00:13:26.255
  • It's the end of history.
  • 00:13:26.255 --> 00:13:27.222
  • Turns out history is just getting started.
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  • We'll be right back.
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  • Joining us now is a great friend, an amazing person.
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  • Senator mike lee from the wonderful state of utah.
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  • Senator lee, great to see you. senator.
  • 00:14:43.802 --> 00:14:45.570
  • I am going to utah next week.
  • 00:14:45.570 --> 00:14:47.505
  • A week from today
  • 00:14:47.505 --> 00:14:48.740
  • At the wonderful utah valley state university.
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  • All are welcome.
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  • You guys can get your tickets at american comeback tour.com.
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  • Senator lee, this is already making a lot of headlines.
  • 00:14:55.847 --> 00:14:57.882
  • People are very angry.
  • 00:14:57.882 --> 00:14:59.017
  • They're calling for my cancellation.
  • 00:14:59.017 --> 00:15:00.752
  • They think our permit should be pulled. what?
  • 00:15:00.752 --> 00:15:03.088
  • This is a greater response than when i go to berkeley.
  • 00:15:03.088 --> 00:15:06.591
  • Essentially.
  • 00:15:06.591 --> 00:15:07.625
  • What is going on in the beautiful state of utah?
  • 00:15:07.625 --> 00:15:10.228
  • Well, first of all, charlie, i want to thank you
  • 00:15:11.229 --> 00:15:12.797
  • For the work that you're doing on campuses across the country
  • 00:15:12.797 --> 00:15:15.700
  • And for your interest in visiting utah next week.
  • 00:15:15.700 --> 00:15:18.603
  • Free speech.
  • 00:15:18.603 --> 00:15:19.537
  • You shouldn't stop at the campus gates.
  • 00:15:19.537 --> 00:15:21.439
  • If anything, we should have, a heightened
  • 00:15:21.439 --> 00:15:25.243
  • Degree of attention
  • 00:15:25.243 --> 00:15:26.978
  • And focus, a heightened degree of protectiveness around,
  • 00:15:26.978 --> 00:15:30.181
  • Free speech on campuses, because the learning
  • 00:15:30.181 --> 00:15:32.817
  • Environment necessarily requires open, honest
  • 00:15:32.817 --> 00:15:36.287
  • Conversations where different viewpoints are examined.
  • 00:15:36.287 --> 00:15:39.290
  • Our students, deserve open discussion and vigorous debate.
  • 00:15:39.290 --> 00:15:43.161
  • And not just the same sanitize woke version that,
  • 00:15:43.161 --> 00:15:46.998
  • So many college administrators and faculty members
  • 00:15:46.998 --> 00:15:49.567
  • Seem to prefer and seem to demand exclusively, like
  • 00:15:49.567 --> 00:15:54.939
  • Utahns believe in open debate and free exchange of ideas.
  • 00:15:54.939 --> 00:15:59.411
  • What you're doing helps to ensure students
  • 00:15:59.411 --> 00:16:02.747
  • Get that experience.
  • 00:16:02.747 --> 00:16:04.082
  • Because if students can't
  • 00:16:04.082 --> 00:16:05.150
  • Handle diverse ideas in college,
  • 00:16:05.150 --> 00:16:07.519
  • How are they ever going to handle that in real life?
  • 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:09.854
  • So look, i, i, i, i hope and expect that
  • 00:16:09.854 --> 00:16:13.625
  • Your visit to utah
  • 00:16:13.625 --> 00:16:14.726
  • Will be productive, that you will be able to speak,
  • 00:16:14.726 --> 00:16:16.961
  • That you're not going to exclude you.
  • 00:16:16.961 --> 00:16:19.030
  • And i anticipate that once you're there,
  • 00:16:19.030 --> 00:16:21.733
  • A lot of the naysayers, a lot of those people
  • 00:16:21.733 --> 00:16:24.002
  • Trying to exclude
  • 00:16:24.002 --> 00:16:24.936
  • You are going to
  • 00:16:24.936 --> 00:16:25.937
  • See some real utility behind your visit there.
  • 00:16:25.937 --> 00:16:29.441
  • Now, who knows why they
  • 00:16:29.941 --> 00:16:31.176
  • Decide, to start these things, but each time they start them
  • 00:16:31.176 --> 00:16:36.181
  • And then you show up and do what you do best,
  • 00:16:36.181 --> 00:16:38.817
  • People were enlightened as a result of it,
  • 00:16:38.817 --> 00:16:41.820
  • So thank you for doing that.
  • 00:16:41.820 --> 00:16:43.388
  • Senator, i want to shift gears here
  • 00:16:43.388 --> 00:16:44.923
  • To president trump's truth social.
  • 00:16:44.923 --> 00:16:47.492
  • He said monday's court order in
  • 00:16:47.492 --> 00:16:48.893
  • Utah is absolutely unconstitutional.
  • 00:16:48.893 --> 00:16:51.596
  • How did such a wonderful republican state
  • 00:16:51.596 --> 00:16:53.098
  • Like utah, which i won every election
  • 00:16:53.098 --> 00:16:54.933
  • And end up with so many radical left judges?
  • 00:16:54.933 --> 00:16:57.001
  • Senator, what is going on here?
  • 00:16:57.001 --> 00:16:58.536
  • Please take some time and go into some detail
  • 00:16:58.536 --> 00:17:01.339
  • And explain what's happening in the great state of utah.
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  • Yeah.
  • 00:17:04.776 --> 00:17:06.010
  • So utah, the electoral system is under attack by democrats
  • 00:17:06.010 --> 00:17:08.113
  • And including their leftist allies in the utah courts.
  • 00:17:08.113 --> 00:17:12.350
  • About seven years ago,
  • 00:17:12.350 --> 00:17:14.752
  • There was, an effort, for
  • 00:17:14.752 --> 00:17:17.722
  • Which utah voters passed a law through a ballot initiative
  • 00:17:17.722 --> 00:17:21.326
  • Creating a legislative redistricting commission. now,
  • 00:17:21.326 --> 00:17:24.896
  • In the years that followed, the utah
  • 00:17:25.663 --> 00:17:27.332
  • Legislature, subsequently amended that law,
  • 00:17:27.332 --> 00:17:30.802
  • Which it has the power to do
  • 00:17:31.402 --> 00:17:34.005
  • Under the utah constitution.
  • 00:17:34.005 --> 00:17:36.107
  • In other words, you can make a law, either
  • 00:17:36.107 --> 00:17:39.177
  • Through the legislature or through a ballot initiative.
  • 00:17:39.177 --> 00:17:42.514
  • Power somewhat rarely used, but when it is used, it
  • 00:17:42.514 --> 00:17:45.583
  • It runs on a parallel
  • 00:17:45.583 --> 00:17:46.751
  • Track with laws made by the legislature.
  • 00:17:46.751 --> 00:17:49.220
  • And so the legislature, can subsequently amend
  • 00:17:49.220 --> 00:17:53.791
  • Or even repeal a law that was previously made
  • 00:17:53.791 --> 00:17:56.794
  • Under our state constitution through a ballot initiative.
  • 00:17:56.794 --> 00:17:59.964
  • But utah courts are now invalidating,
  • 00:17:59.964 --> 00:18:03.067
  • The legislatures amendments
  • 00:18:03.067 --> 00:18:05.403
  • To that earlier ballot initiative
  • 00:18:05.403 --> 00:18:07.772
  • And to utah's existing congressional district maps,
  • 00:18:07.772 --> 00:18:11.109
  • Even though nothing in the utah constitution compels
  • 00:18:11.109 --> 00:18:13.778
  • Or even allows that result.
  • 00:18:13.778 --> 00:18:15.446
  • And even though, one provision in particular, article
  • 00:18:15.446 --> 00:18:19.184
  • Nine of the utah constitution, actually requires
  • 00:18:19.184 --> 00:18:22.086
  • Legislative districts, including
  • 00:18:22.086 --> 00:18:23.688
  • Congressional districts, to be drawn by the legislature,
  • 00:18:23.688 --> 00:18:26.691
  • Not by some, nameless, faceless,
  • 00:18:27.458 --> 00:18:30.195
  • Commission,
  • 00:18:30.528 --> 00:18:32.263
  • Consisting of people who was well-educated
  • 00:18:32.263 --> 00:18:34.666
  • And well intentioned as they might be.
  • 00:18:34.666 --> 00:18:36.568
  • Have never been elected by anybody
  • 00:18:36.568 --> 00:18:38.670
  • And don't serve accountable to the voters of utah.
  • 00:18:38.670 --> 00:18:41.172
  • So it now appears that utah's likely to be bound by,
  • 00:18:41.172 --> 00:18:44.809
  • A process involving congressional district
  • 00:18:44.809 --> 00:18:48.980
  • Maps being drawn up
  • 00:18:48.980 --> 00:18:50.114
  • By the legislature, but by this outside commission.
  • 00:18:50.114 --> 00:18:53.418
  • And although the legislature
  • 00:18:54.018 --> 00:18:55.153
  • Still has final authority to approve any such maps,
  • 00:18:55.153 --> 00:18:58.289
  • Under the court order that came out last week,
  • 00:18:58.289 --> 00:19:01.125
  • That maps a, one way or another have to be,
  • 00:19:01.125 --> 00:19:05.029
  • More or less drawn by the commission,
  • 00:19:05.830 --> 00:19:07.532
  • Even though that constitution belongs to the legislature.
  • 00:19:07.532 --> 00:19:10.235
  • Look, decision, while being heralded by the left
  • 00:19:10.235 --> 00:19:13.471
  • Because they like it, because it's a victory,
  • 00:19:13.471 --> 00:19:15.340
  • Is they're cheap points. they're scoring.
  • 00:19:15.340 --> 00:19:17.609
  • This will make the process of drawing legislative districts
  • 00:19:17.609 --> 00:19:21.112
  • In utah less accountable to the voters, not more,
  • 00:19:21.112 --> 00:19:23.648
  • Because that's what happens when you take that
  • 00:19:23.648 --> 00:19:26.317
  • Constitutional responsibility away from elected lawmakers
  • 00:19:26.317 --> 00:19:29.020
  • And you give it to someone else.
  • 00:19:29.020 --> 00:19:31.122
  • It will also result in maps that are far more generous
  • 00:19:31.122 --> 00:19:34.025
  • To democrats.
  • 00:19:34.025 --> 00:19:34.859
  • And i think that's the whole point,
  • 00:19:34.859 --> 00:19:36.227
  • Is that they hope to pick up at least one seat,
  • 00:19:36.227 --> 00:19:39.297
  • Maybe two for democrats in utah as a result of this.
  • 00:19:39.297 --> 00:19:42.567
  • So it's kind of a judicial takeover
  • 00:19:42.567 --> 00:19:44.435
  • Of the political process,
  • 00:19:44.435 --> 00:19:45.770
  • One that's designed by leftists to advance
  • 00:19:45.770 --> 00:19:47.805
  • The electoral prospects of the democratic party in utah.
  • 00:19:47.805 --> 00:19:52.010
  • And it's yet another example
  • 00:19:52.010 --> 00:19:53.244
  • Of how these independent commissions are so often used
  • 00:19:53.244 --> 00:19:57.015
  • By the left to give an unfair, unearned advantage
  • 00:19:57.015 --> 00:20:00.985
  • To democrats in red states, one that they could never
  • 00:20:00.985 --> 00:20:03.288
  • Otherwise secure through the electoral process.
  • 00:20:03.288 --> 00:20:05.690
  • This is part of a broader redistricting fight
  • 00:20:05.690 --> 00:20:08.593
  • In california and texas.
  • 00:20:08.593 --> 00:20:11.095
  • Let me ask this why is utah seemingly
  • 00:20:11.095 --> 00:20:14.098
  • Having this democrat appeasing moderate streak?
  • 00:20:14.098 --> 00:20:17.902
  • Let's just talk more broadly about utah.
  • 00:20:17.902 --> 00:20:19.871
  • Your cost the two conservative senator lee
  • 00:20:19.871 --> 00:20:22.607
  • And one of the best, if not the best in the nation.
  • 00:20:22.607 --> 00:20:25.610
  • And you have an amazing track record
  • 00:20:25.610 --> 00:20:27.111
  • And you're so good
  • 00:20:27.111 --> 00:20:28.746
  • To your constituents and you represent your voters.
  • 00:20:28.746 --> 00:20:31.749
  • Why is it that in utah,
  • 00:20:32.250 --> 00:20:34.752
  • Which is supposed to be the solidly red state,
  • 00:20:34.752 --> 00:20:37.655
  • Why give any ground at all whatsoever?
  • 00:20:37.655 --> 00:20:39.724
  • What are the influences that are seeping into utah
  • 00:20:39.724 --> 00:20:42.994
  • That seem to be changing the politic?
  • 00:20:42.994 --> 00:20:45.229
  • There?
  • 00:20:45.229 --> 00:20:47.031
  • Perhaps first and foremost, i think we've gotten
  • 00:20:47.031 --> 00:20:49.334
  • A little complacent with the fact
  • 00:20:49.334 --> 00:20:50.835
  • That we've had these
  • 00:20:50.835 --> 00:20:52.070
  • Republican majorities in both houses of our legislature and,
  • 00:20:52.070 --> 00:20:55.239
  • The governor's office
  • 00:20:55.239 --> 00:20:56.474
  • And so many of our other prominent
  • 00:20:56.474 --> 00:20:57.709
  • Elected positions in the state.
  • 00:20:57.709 --> 00:21:00.011
  • The fact that we've had those under,
  • 00:21:00.011 --> 00:21:03.348
  • The republican banner for as many decades as we have
  • 00:21:03.348 --> 00:21:07.251
  • Has perhaps, caused, many in the state
  • 00:21:07.251 --> 00:21:10.855
  • To not be aware of
  • 00:21:10.855 --> 00:21:11.823
  • What's going on because you have to dig into
  • 00:21:11.823 --> 00:21:13.358
  • Some of these details to see what's going on.
  • 00:21:13.358 --> 00:21:15.727
  • When something like this happens,
  • 00:21:15.727 --> 00:21:17.662
  • Then you add to that, charlie, what happens in a state
  • 00:21:17.662 --> 00:21:20.298
  • Like mine, a republican state, consistently republican state
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  • That has no conservative media to speak
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  • Of, you know, we've got a, a handful here.
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  • Are there
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  • We've got a, a handful of of
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  • Great, people on the radio, for example.
  • 00:21:35.646 --> 00:21:39.016
  • But as far as our print media and our mainstream
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  • Broadcast media, tv and radio within the state,
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  • We have no significant large scale, conservative
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  • Or even right of center, media.
  • 00:21:50.695 --> 00:21:53.698
  • Within utah, it's a pretty mismatched state
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  • In terms of the political views of a constituency,
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  • The citizenry of utah and the, disparity
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  • Between that and the news media establishment.
  • 00:22:04.409 --> 00:22:07.311
  • That doesn't help.
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  • But but here, again, just with the apathy problem
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  • Or the lack of awareness problem,
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  • The more people talk about this, more
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  • We can draw attention to it.
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  • I think we can remedy some of that defect.
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  • And i think what you're doing
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  • With your visit to utah next week, which i applaud,
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  • Helps to shed light on these things
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  • And helps to raise awareness of what's actually happening.
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  • Thank you so much, senator lee. see you soon.
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  • Friends just across israel's border inside syria.
  • 00:22:34.405 --> 00:22:37.542
  • Entire christian and druze families have been slaughtered
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  • By islamic terrorists. it's shocking.
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  • It's heartbreaking.
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  • And the international fellowship of christians
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  • And jews
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  • Is there on the ground,
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  • Working hand in hand with israel and the idf to respond.
  • 00:22:47.852 --> 00:22:51.022
  • The fellowship has rushed in over 1500 emergency food boxes.
  • 00:22:51.022 --> 00:22:55.059
  • They've opened
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  • A brand new medical clinic in a village that had none.
  • 00:22:56.227 --> 00:22:58.362
  • Truckloads of medical equipment
  • 00:22:58.362 --> 00:22:59.831
  • And supplies went straight to hospitals
  • 00:22:59.831 --> 00:23:01.566
  • Because the need is so desperate.
  • 00:23:01.566 --> 00:23:03.034
  • This is our faith in action.
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  • Israel is stopping the terrorists.
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  • Now it's on us christians and jews to care
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  • For the survivors,
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  • To pray for the persecuted,
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  • And to stand with them against evil.
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  • I'm asking you to join me in
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  • Standing with the international
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  • Fellowship of christians and jews, right now called ifrc.
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  • Jorg that is ifrc. jorg.
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  • We could meet terror with compassion.
  • 00:23:19.784 --> 00:23:21.519
  • We can be part of bringing food, medical help
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  • And hope to christian and druze communities in syria
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  • Who need it most.
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