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- International fellowship of christians and jews.
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- So it's been,
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- I'd say a week or two probably since we've covered
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- The epstein situation.
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- We were covering a lot of other stories
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- And the media, they they were waiting for this.
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- You see, congress,
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- They brought in a lot of the epstein victims.
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- And it's undoubtedly terrible what epstein did
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- To the underage high school girls
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- And groomed them and sexually abused them.
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- They're bringing in all of these epstein victims.
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- Interestingly, one of them is a man,
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- So i don't that's breaking news, at least to me.
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- I don't quite know all the details surrounding that.
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- And but nbc news thought they had their moment.
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- There's the media.
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- They want nothing more than to be able
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- To tie this to donald trump.
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- They bring all of these epstein
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- Victims.
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- One after the other,
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- After the other, and they have their big moment.
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- The media is just waiting for a metaphorical
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- Kill shot on donald trump.
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- Amazingly, with all the questions
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- They could ask, this is the one.
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- But in some ways, i'm kind of glad they asked it
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- In kind of a sick and twisted way.
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- I'm glad they did.
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- I'm glad they were able to air it out,
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- Because this was a swing and a miss and a media
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- Loss right here.
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- And this kind of goes to show that there's
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- A lot of misinformation and half truths
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- That are circulating around this entire thing,
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- Especially in the proximity of president trump, especially.
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- I do have to ask.
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- And i know,
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- And it's
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- Just something
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- That i think we're compelled to at this moment
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- With the attention on president trump
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- With these questions around a pardon,
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- Did anybody see or hear of the president himself
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- Doing anything inappropriate?
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- Is it related to jeffrey epstein? no.
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- So anticlimactic.
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- No, no.
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- This is cut 401.
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- This is another one of the epstein victims.
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- Several of us, as a team of survivors,
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- Have been discussing creating our own list of names.
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- We know the names.
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- Many of us were abused by them.
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- And now, together as survivors
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- Will confidentially compile the names, play up 401.
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- Several of us as team survivors have been discussing
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- Creating our own list of names.
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- We know the names.
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- Many of us were abused by them.
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- Right
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- Now, together as survivors, we will confidentially compile
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- The names we all know where regularly in the epstein world,
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- And it will be done by survivors
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- And for survivors.
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- No one else is involved.
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- My take right now in my approach
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- And i this is my contribution to the zeitgeist,
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- Is i cut my teeth, i have the wounds to show.
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- During the metoo movement.
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- During the metoo movement, i learned a lot.
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- We saw the whole country lose its mind during mass hysteria.
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- So let's not do that again.
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- We need empirical data, and especially if there are people
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- Like michael tracy tweets, this british socialite
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- Who a judge endured no illegal activity and stayed in contact
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- With epstein into the 30s, into her 30s,
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- Guys,
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- That's not someone that i think
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- We should be platforming, and we just want the truth.
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- And a lot of this, again, it undermines the actual victims.
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- And then you have a gold rush.
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- And that's the problem.
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- This happens way too often in situations like this
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- And what you do not want,
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- What will invalidate the actual abuse of these victims
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- And the treacherous elements of this,
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- Whether it be intel agencies or all the other stuff,
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- Will be a bunch of opportunists that gold rush into this
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- In a meta way to try to get cash
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- Or try to get clicks, try to get cash, try to get clicks.
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- Like this british socialite model.
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- I don't know if this person's
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- Name is michael tracy's reporting.
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- You guys can look at all michael tracy stuff.
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- Am tracy, you got to be prudent.
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- You got to be cautious. but at least my instinct
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- Feels a little bit
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- Too much like the weinstein, the kavanaugh.
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- This whole thing is starting to raise some red flags for me.
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- Guys.
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- It's starting to feel like much more of a
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- A operation
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- That we traditionally would ask questions about.
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- It's kind of turning into a, a three
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- Ring media circus
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- When there is money to be made by accusing
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- People, accusers will appear.
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- So we need to be cautious.
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- We're going to call balls
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- And strikes as hard evidence emerges.
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- But the big takeaway today.
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- Is that this is a big mess
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- For those people that wanted to take out donald trump.
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- And final point, there is a massive,
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- Multibillion dollar epstein compensation fund.
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- There is a high incentive
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- For people to say they were victims of him.
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- There were real victims of him 100%.
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- But now we're verging on we're we're blurring some lines,
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- Like this one socialite who was a judge ruled
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- No illegal sexual activity was an adult
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- When they
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- When she engaged with epstein
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- And stayed in contact to his 30s.
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- We do not want hysteria.
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- That's bad for everybody.
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- We are anti hysteria and anti panic.
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- Email us freedom at charlie kirk.com.
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- The final point is many of them
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- Then want to extract money from wealthy people
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- Who will undoubtedly get embroil
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- I know this is raising some antennas here.
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- Got a little red flags going on here
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- Because i lived through the
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- Nonsense and the carnage of me to let us not participate
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- In that kind of circus.
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- Let's be prudent. let's look at the evidence.
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- Let's weigh it.
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- Give everybody due process.
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- And that's our take.
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- In genesis
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- 12 three, god made a powerful promise
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- To abraham, the father of the jewish people.
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- I will bless those who bless you.
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- The christian bible tells us
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- That we have been grafted into god's family tree.
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- The rich olive tree of israel,
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- The very foundations of the christian faith,
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- The bible and jesus, whom christians call
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- The messiah, are deeply rooted in israel.
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- Supporting israel aligns christians with god's
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- Prophetic timeline.
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- It demonstrates our willingness to be instruments of
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- God's blessing, uplifting his chosen people,
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- And it calls us to confront and heal
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- The centuries old wounds of anti-semitism.
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- The scripture says how good and how
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- Pleasant it is when brethren dwell together.
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- You can be part of this historic movement
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- Of bringing light to our world.
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- Learn more by going to ifc.
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- J.org today.
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- J.org today.
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- Joining us now it's nathan finocchiaro nathan
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- Nathan is the founder of theo siu and theo seminary,
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- Author of hearing god and killer church.
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- Nathan, there's so much happening here.
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- Why don't you take a moment?
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- Just introduce yourself.
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- Your work, your scholarship.
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- You are a deep thinker, and you should be taken
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- Very seriously.
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- When you say something, i listen, and i mean that.
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- So please, nathan, take a moment
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- To introduce yourself and your line of work, please.
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- Yeah, yeah.
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- So this is what a theologian looks like.
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- And i apologize for letting you down.
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- But, you know, i,
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- I love god, i love the church.
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- And, i think that the church in america
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- And across the world, is doing better than we think.
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- First and foremost,
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- But secondly, needs needs a lot of work.
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- I believe that jesus is coming back for, glorious bride and
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- She's not there yet, but she's on the treadmill
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- And she's doing keto.
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- And so that's sort of my line of work is just helping
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- Christians think
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- And and helping churches think about the big picture.
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- And, so that's kind of what i do.
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- Thank you.
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- And theo seminary, are how we
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- Train christians to think about things, and, and,
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- Think about politics, think about, the church and society.
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- Think about, i mean, there's everything
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- People have been saying that that, you know,
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- Christians are getting more political, but it's like,
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- No, politics are getting a lot more theological.
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- And so we need people,
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- Particularly christians, namely christians,
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- To think theologically about politics, etc..
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- So we're not like a political organization by any means.
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- But, but just de facto, if you're theological,
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- You're, you're, now political.
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- So that's kind of, that's kind of what we do.
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- So, how should the church act and operate
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- In the political arena?
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- Should the church care about politics?
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- Should the church care about culture?
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- What do you have to say to pastors that say,
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- I don't get involved in that stuff.
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- I don't get involved in politics.
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- I don't get involved in the moral fights.
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- I don't get involved in the cultural fights.
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- I just do the gospel.
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- What would your response to them be? yeah.
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- So my my response would be that,
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- If your business is people
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- And policy is always about people,
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- Then then inadvertently
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- Your business is about policy and you should absolutely
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- Be concerned about policy.
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- And, i don't think that necessarily christians
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- Need to get up and, and endorse candidates.
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- Like specifically, your pastors need to endorse candidates.
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- I think that pastors just need to talk about,
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- They need to talk about things as they as they come up.
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- You know, in, in, i people often ask me, nate,
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- What should i preach on?
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- And i should i just say scroll tiktok doom scroll for an hour
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- And you will find something to preach on.
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- It's like, great point.
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- It's the easiest way to write a sermon is to see where your
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- Congregation is sitting and and what they're going through,
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- And then just write and help them and like, apply
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- God's word to the the questions that people are asking,
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- You know, both individually and corporately.
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- So, yeah.
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- So i don't think that there's any way
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- That you can sidestep anymore
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- As a pastor or as a, as a church leader.
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- And once again,
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- I'm not talking about
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- Endorsing candidates, but we have to address
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- Culture and where things are at dead on.
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- Because if a
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- If a pastor isn't doing it, somebody else is doing it.
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- The bottom line is,
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- Is that your congregation is being trained politically,
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- You know, through, through policy and theologically.
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- And if you're going to abdicate the throne of that,
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- Then don't be surprised when people start believing
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- Stupid things and behaving in insane ways.
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- And so but
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- Why is it that the church has abdicated its role?
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- Why is it that the church doesn't engage?
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- The church is silent and the church is afraid?
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- Where did we go wrong? was there a moment in time?
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- Was there a teaching? was there a trend?
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- Was there a creed?
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- Was there a fad?
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- Because the church was not like this 40 or 50 years ago?
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- But the church is largely silent
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- On what happens outside of its walls.
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- The church is not fighting for life.
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- The church is not fighting against transgenderism.
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- The church is not fighting for the stuff that matters.
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- So where where did we go wrong?
- 00:11:50.700 --> 00:11:53.537
- The seeker sensitive movement is the worst thing that ever
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- Happened to the american church in 70 years.
- 00:11:56.239 --> 00:11:59.376
- It's destroyed. it.
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- That's where we went wrong.
- 00:12:02.546 --> 00:12:04.414
- So what kind of happened was you had a philosophy that.
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- Well, you know, the cat's out of the bag.
- 00:12:09.186 --> 00:12:11.521
- People are going to be immoral.
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- Christians no longer have a seat in public life.
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- And so rather than trying to
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- Assert ourselves in public life,
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- We're just going to make everybody a christian.
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- And if we can make everybody a christian,
- 00:12:23.533 --> 00:12:25.468
- That's how we can change the nation.
- 00:12:25.468 --> 00:12:27.003
- So, christians went after,
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- The church is designed so
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- It's a misunderstanding of how the church is designed.
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- The church was designed a
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- To worship god, be to equip the saints
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- And see to reach the world in that order.
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- And seekers reverse the order they go.
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- The church is designed to reach people,
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- And then to equip people and then to worship god.
- 00:12:48.058 --> 00:12:51.161
- And so when you get the design
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- Wrong, you get the church wrong.
- 00:12:52.596 --> 00:12:53.897
- Immediately we went we when you become a secret church
- 00:12:53.897 --> 00:12:56.900
- And a secret church is a church that's after reaching people.
- 00:12:56.900 --> 00:12:59.703
- And there's nothing wrong with reaching people,
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- But you have to have the order, right?
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- And you have to.
- 00:13:02.639 --> 00:13:03.807
- The order matters because, if you make everything like,
- 00:13:03.807 --> 00:13:07.377
- For example,
- 00:13:07.377 --> 00:13:08.445
- My dad's generation, when my dad like in the 70s,
- 00:13:08.445 --> 00:13:11.081
- For them, it's like, how do we get god to church?
- 00:13:11.081 --> 00:13:13.083
- That's the question that they asked.
- 00:13:13.083 --> 00:13:14.618
- Now, people,
- 00:13:14.618 --> 00:13:16.219
- The question that many churches ask, particularly
- 00:13:16.219 --> 00:13:18.989
- Many evangelicals, is how do we get people to church?
- 00:13:18.989 --> 00:13:22.292
- And so, you know, you're you're fishing for people.
- 00:13:22.292 --> 00:13:24.928
- You're trying to
- 00:13:24.928 --> 00:13:26.029
- That's that's where all the people pleasing starts.
- 00:13:26.029 --> 00:13:27.230
- That's where, oh, don't talk about this.
- 00:13:27.230 --> 00:13:28.932
- You know, you're walking on eggshells
- 00:13:28.932 --> 00:13:30.767
- Constantly because you're worried about offending people,
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- Because your whole mission is bringing people to church.
- 00:13:33.303 --> 00:13:36.339
- And so that's what i believe went wrong, is we became seeker
- 00:13:36.339 --> 00:13:40.443
- Rather seeker friendly rather than god friendly.
- 00:13:40.443 --> 00:13:43.513
- And so when you're trying to please people,
- 00:13:43.513 --> 00:13:45.849
- Everything's always going to go sideways.
- 00:13:45.849 --> 00:13:47.250
- And that's part of the reason why we become so effeminate,
- 00:13:47.250 --> 00:13:50.553
- In our teaching and our theology and our philosophy,
- 00:13:50.553 --> 00:13:53.456
- Because the whole, the whole shtick in evangelicalism
- 00:13:53.456 --> 00:13:56.760
- Is trying to reach people who ultimately don't care.
- 00:13:56.760 --> 00:13:59.596
- Like, as james mcdonald once said, you're just trying
- 00:13:59.596 --> 00:14:02.432
- To fill your church with tears.
- 00:14:02.432 --> 00:14:05.168
- And so what we have to do, and i believe
- 00:14:05.168 --> 00:14:07.437
- That this is one of the reason why pentecostalism is growing
- 00:14:07.437 --> 00:14:10.140
- Like wildfire all over the world
- 00:14:10.140 --> 00:14:11.408
- Is because we have to get back to caring about god.
- 00:14:11.408 --> 00:14:14.577
- Like, how do we get god to church,
- 00:14:14.577 --> 00:14:16.813
- You know,
- 00:14:16.813 --> 00:14:17.981
- By preaching the right thing, by worshiping correctly.
- 00:14:17.981 --> 00:14:19.749
- And the result will be that people will
- 00:14:19.749 --> 00:14:22.118
- Notice the difference and they'll want to come.
- 00:14:22.118 --> 00:14:24.955
- So it's sort of revival, counter
- 00:14:24.955 --> 00:14:28.892
- Bringing god to church, not just people, the church.
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- How should we think about islam as christians?
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- What is this a threat?
- 00:15:46.638 --> 00:15:47.706
- Is this a problem?
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- Or is this kind of just, you know,
- 00:15:49.074 --> 00:15:50.976
- Not something that we shouldn't waste our time with? yeah.
- 00:15:50.976 --> 00:15:53.612
- So so great question. yeah.
- 00:15:53.612 --> 00:15:55.113
- So first and foremost, you should read the church
- 00:15:55.113 --> 00:15:57.883
- Fathers, read the first 1500 years of church history
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- And thinkers and pastors on islam.
- 00:16:02.087 --> 00:16:04.790
- Like how did they think about it?
- 00:16:04.790 --> 00:16:06.091
- So that would be my first go educate yourself on
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- On how the the church fathers, the patristic
- 00:16:09.928 --> 00:16:11.963
- Thought about islam, number one,
- 00:16:11.963 --> 00:16:13.665
- Because what you're going to discover is that,
- 00:16:13.665 --> 00:16:16.501
- There are a lot more there are a lot
- 00:16:17.269 --> 00:16:19.938
- More unkind, a lot more militant.
- 00:16:19.938 --> 00:16:23.508
- They're closer to christopher hitchens,
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- Than they would be, to to to many of our modern leaders.
- 00:16:26.178 --> 00:16:30.515
- Number one, number two, i would say that
- 00:16:30.515 --> 00:16:34.886
- I think that we were really naive
- 00:16:35.620 --> 00:16:38.023
- A couple hundred years ago about what religion was,
- 00:16:38.023 --> 00:16:40.892
- And i don't believe that the founders had islam in mind
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- When they were thinking about freedom of religion,
- 00:16:45.297 --> 00:16:47.165
- You know,
- 00:16:47.165 --> 00:16:48.100
- Particularly when you're thinking of them
- 00:16:48.100 --> 00:16:48.900
- Coming out
- 00:16:48.900 --> 00:16:50.035
- Of the european context and the protestant reformation.
- 00:16:50.035 --> 00:16:52.404
- And, you know, if you were an
- 00:16:52.404 --> 00:16:53.939
- If you weren't an anglican and you were living in england,
- 00:16:53.939 --> 00:16:55.874
- That was going to be problems.
- 00:16:55.874 --> 00:16:57.309
- I think that they were thinking,
- 00:16:57.309 --> 00:16:58.543
- Yeah, like we're all christians here.
- 00:16:58.543 --> 00:17:00.112
- We're all europeans here.
- 00:17:00.112 --> 00:17:01.279
- You worship, you know, jesus the way you see fit.
- 00:17:01.279 --> 00:17:03.782
- I'll worship jesus the way i see fit.
- 00:17:03.782 --> 00:17:05.851
- I think that we have been extremely naive,
- 00:17:05.851 --> 00:17:09.054
- You know, for example, you have richard dawkins
- 00:17:09.054 --> 00:17:12.891
- About a year ago, you know, any smart atheist
- 00:17:12.891 --> 00:17:16.194
- Like richard dawkins would say that they don't want to live
- 00:17:16.194 --> 00:17:19.598
- Really in a, in a society where islam
- 00:17:19.598 --> 00:17:22.801
- Has any type of political power whatsoever,
- 00:17:22.801 --> 00:17:25.137
- They want to live in a christian society.
- 00:17:25.137 --> 00:17:27.472
- And so, the long and the short of it
- 00:17:27.472 --> 00:17:30.041
- For me is that you have you can't just say naively,
- 00:17:30.041 --> 00:17:33.979
- Islam is a religion, and that's the end of
- 00:17:33.979 --> 00:17:37.048
- You have to understand that islam is a political ideology,
- 00:17:37.048 --> 00:17:41.586
- And that is exactly what they want.
- 00:17:41.586 --> 00:17:44.756
- So i don't know if i would classify it as a mere religion.
- 00:17:44.756 --> 00:17:48.293
- And then that's where we get into the thick of things.
- 00:17:48.293 --> 00:17:52.197
- So nathan, how then
- 00:17:52.664 --> 00:17:53.865
- Should we treat the importation of islam into the west?
- 00:17:53.865 --> 00:17:57.536
- How is with the how should the church react?
- 00:17:57.536 --> 00:17:59.871
- How should we as christians act
- 00:17:59.871 --> 00:18:01.373
- And react to this rising menace that is islam? yes.
- 00:18:01.373 --> 00:18:05.243
- So i think that we need to
- 00:18:05.243 --> 00:18:08.914
- There needs to be a radical reevaluation
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- Of how we,
- 00:18:14.119 --> 00:18:17.489
- How we characterize and understand islam.
- 00:18:17.489 --> 00:18:20.325
- Like we have to we have to
- 00:18:20.325 --> 00:18:22.527
- It's naive to just once again, once.
- 00:18:22.527 --> 00:18:24.529
- It's just naive to call it a religion.
- 00:18:24.529 --> 00:18:26.498
- And it just ends there.
- 00:18:26.498 --> 00:18:28.033
- It's not it's it's it's a religion with a
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- With a political ideology.
- 00:18:31.736 --> 00:18:33.972
- It has been from the very start.
- 00:18:33.972 --> 00:18:36.408
- And, and you have to ask yourself, is this
- 00:18:36.408 --> 00:18:41.012
- Political ideology that comes
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- Like inherent in the religion?
- 00:18:43.782 --> 00:18:46.184
- Is it compatible with western civilization?
- 00:18:46.184 --> 00:18:49.688
- And christopher hitchens and many other very wise atheists?
- 00:18:49.688 --> 00:18:54.993
- And, anybody i think that with a,
- 00:18:54.993 --> 00:18:58.830
- A brain in their heads, would recognize that it is
- 00:18:58.830 --> 00:19:02.234
- It is absolutely not compatible in in no way
- 00:19:02.234 --> 00:19:05.270
- Is it compatible.
- 00:19:05.270 --> 00:19:05.937
- You know,
- 00:19:05.937 --> 00:19:06.471
- It's funny to me, bro,
- 00:19:06.471 --> 00:19:07.572
- Because people complain about christian nationalism
- 00:19:07.572 --> 00:19:09.341
- And they use this term as a bludgeon.
- 00:19:09.341 --> 00:19:10.675
- You know,
- 00:19:10.675 --> 00:19:11.776
- To try to make people who are christians not vote
- 00:19:11.776 --> 00:19:14.312
- Their conscience or not, you know, not vote,
- 00:19:14.312 --> 00:19:17.082
- Along the things that they believe.
- 00:19:17.082 --> 00:19:19.684
- Everybody else can believe anything that they want.
- 00:19:19.684 --> 00:19:21.253
- But as soon as you're a christian, then
- 00:19:21.253 --> 00:19:22.687
- You're a christian nationalist in your problem. right?
- 00:19:22.687 --> 00:19:24.789
- And, and you,
- 00:19:24.789 --> 00:19:27.325
- You want to live like you want to live
- 00:19:27.325 --> 00:19:30.061
- In a christian nationalist society.
- 00:19:30.061 --> 00:19:33.031
- Richard dawkins
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- Wants to live in a christian
- 00:19:33.932 --> 00:19:35.433
- Not like england is a christian nation.
- 00:19:35.433 --> 00:19:37.769
- It is like the like the the the queen is
- 00:19:37.769 --> 00:19:41.840
- The or the king now is head of the anglican church,
- 00:19:41.840 --> 00:19:45.076
- Like the english church.
- 00:19:45.076 --> 00:19:46.011
- So you want that like that's what you want
- 00:19:46.011 --> 00:19:48.146
- Because christian societies, believe it or not,
- 00:19:48.146 --> 00:19:50.515
- Are tolerant societies like that's what they are with.
- 00:19:50.515 --> 00:19:53.184
- They they're
- 00:19:53.184 --> 00:19:54.286
- Tolerant of religions as long as those religions are
- 00:19:54.286 --> 00:19:56.921
- That's what they are, their religions
- 00:19:56.921 --> 00:19:58.223
- And and they don't, you know, get into these militant
- 00:19:58.223 --> 00:20:02.193
- Political ideologies that there's not jihadism
- 00:20:02.193 --> 00:20:05.430
- Attached to them.
- 00:20:05.430 --> 00:20:06.531
- And we're we're playing a very big joke on us.
- 00:20:06.531 --> 00:20:10.001
- I mean, we're watching it happen in england right now.
- 00:20:10.001 --> 00:20:12.337
- Like these, the grooming gang gangs
- 00:20:12.337 --> 00:20:15.740
- In birmingham and and like, the english just
- 00:20:15.740 --> 00:20:19.911
- Brushed it under the rug and brushed under the rug.
- 00:20:19.911 --> 00:20:21.980
- They're conservative.
- 00:20:21.980 --> 00:20:23.014
- Governments brushed it under the rug.
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- Just continue to.
- 00:20:25.317 --> 00:20:26.151
- No, no, no,
- 00:20:26.151 --> 00:20:27.319
- You know, multiculturalism and every religion is is is
- 00:20:27.319 --> 00:20:29.688
- It's not they're not they're not the same thing.
- 00:20:29.688 --> 00:20:32.757
- Muslims are not interested in the same thing.
- 00:20:32.757 --> 00:20:35.193
- They want power. they want political power.
- 00:20:35.193 --> 00:20:37.128
- They're taking political power.
- 00:20:37.128 --> 00:20:38.797
- And if you think that christians are restrictive,
- 00:20:38.797 --> 00:20:42.367
- If you think that christians,
- 00:20:42.367 --> 00:20:43.868
- You know, are intolerant, you have another thing coming.
- 00:20:43.868 --> 00:20:46.671
- You are naive if you don't understand
- 00:20:46.671 --> 00:20:48.740
- Exactly what islam is.
- 00:20:48.740 --> 00:20:50.108
- It's more than a religion.
- 00:20:50.108 --> 00:20:52.043
- Just totally shifting gears.
- 00:20:52.043 --> 00:20:53.545
- Is there a revival happening in america?
- 00:20:53.545 --> 00:20:55.380
- If so, what can we do to accelerate it
- 00:20:55.380 --> 00:20:57.248
- One minute remaining?
- 00:20:57.248 --> 00:20:58.283
- Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
- 00:20:58.283 --> 00:20:59.417
- There is revival happening in america.
- 00:20:59.417 --> 00:21:01.886
- It's happening.
- 00:21:01.886 --> 00:21:03.221
- There's churches.
- 00:21:03.221 --> 00:21:04.122
- Churches all over america are growing,
- 00:21:04.122 --> 00:21:06.491
- Churches that prioritize the word of god.
- 00:21:06.491 --> 00:21:09.327
- In the presence of god.
- 00:21:09.327 --> 00:21:10.695
- Those churches are blowing up.
- 00:21:10.695 --> 00:21:12.831
- I travel nonstop, it's what i do for a living.
- 00:21:12.831 --> 00:21:16.067
- I speak at churches,
- 00:21:16.067 --> 00:21:17.168
- And the churches that i go to are blowing up
- 00:21:17.168 --> 00:21:19.771
- Like the church is not shrinking.
- 00:21:19.771 --> 00:21:21.139
- The people are becoming more religious worldwide.
- 00:21:21.139 --> 00:21:23.742
- And in america, like so spirituality is
- 00:21:23.742 --> 00:21:27.145
- On is on the on the uptick.
- 00:21:27.145 --> 00:21:31.182
- And the
- 00:21:31.416 --> 00:21:32.250
- Formula is like it's not a,
- 00:21:32.250 --> 00:21:36.187
- You know, deconstruction or a, unrecognizable spirituality.
- 00:21:36.187 --> 00:21:40.859
- It is a strong biblical spirituality
- 00:21:40.859 --> 00:21:45.630
- That is rooted in the ancient church.
- 00:21:45.630 --> 00:21:48.967
- And that is, i do believe, like, i would agree
- 00:21:48.967 --> 00:21:51.069
- With evangelicals, that, yes, the church is the answer.
- 00:21:51.069 --> 00:21:54.339
- Jesus is the answer for america. he always will be.
- 00:21:54.339 --> 00:21:56.641
- It's not a president, it's jesus christ.
- 00:21:56.641 --> 00:21:58.910
- But the church has to be a church.
- 00:21:58.910 --> 00:22:01.179
- That is the covenant community shaped by the covenant.
- 00:22:01.179 --> 00:22:04.149
- It can't be a church that's trying to build
- 00:22:04.149 --> 00:22:05.950
- With their own strategy.
- 00:22:05.950 --> 00:22:07.185
- They have to build according to the blueprint shown to us.
- 00:22:07.185 --> 00:22:09.587
- And that blueprint is scripture.
- 00:22:09.587 --> 00:22:11.055
- So any church that is adhering to scripture
- 00:22:11.055 --> 00:22:14.392
- And is engaging culture the way that that you know,
- 00:22:14.392 --> 00:22:17.662
- The church has for 2000 years, those churches are growing.
- 00:22:17.662 --> 00:22:20.465
- So we are in revival, and we're going to continue
- 00:22:20.465 --> 00:22:22.467
- To see churches like that, explode and take ground.
- 00:22:22.467 --> 00:22:25.770
- Thank you so much.
- 00:22:26.204 --> 00:22:27.071
- Author of killer church and god.
- 00:22:27.071 --> 00:22:32.377
- Friends just across israel's border inside syria.
- 00:22:33.411 --> 00:22:36.548
- Entire christian and druze families have been slaughtered
- 00:22:36.548 --> 00:22:40.118
- By islamic terrorists. it's shocking.
- 00:22:40.118 --> 00:22:42.287
- It's heartbreaking.
- 00:22:42.287 --> 00:22:43.321
- And the international fellowship of christians
- 00:22:43.321 --> 00:22:44.989
- And jews
- 00:22:44.989 --> 00:22:45.690
- Is there on the ground,
- 00:22:45.690 --> 00:22:46.858
- Working hand in hand with israel and the idf to respond.
- 00:22:46.858 --> 00:22:50.028
- The fellowship has rushed in over 1500 emergency food boxes.
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- They've opened
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- A brand new medical clinic in a village that had none.
- 00:22:55.233 --> 00:22:57.368
- Truckloads of medical equipment
- 00:22:57.368 --> 00:22:58.837
- And supplies went straight to hospitals
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- Because the need is so desperate.
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- This is our faith in action.
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- Israel is stopping the terrorists.
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- Now it's on us christians and jews to care
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- For the survivors,
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- To pray for the persecuted,
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- And to stand with them against evil.
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- I'm asking you to join me in
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- Standing with the international
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- Fellowship of christians and jews, right now called ifrc.
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- Jorg that is ifrc. jorg.
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- We could meet terror with compassion.
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- We can be part of bringing food, medical help
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- And hope to christian and druze communities in syria
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- Who need it most.
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