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People should know this.
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So essentially, the daily mail comes out with an article
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That says the bullet does not match the gun,
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That this is
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This is the literal headline that the daily mail used
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In, which got millions of views on millions.
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The headline was bullet
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Used to kill charlie kirk did not all caps match
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Rifle allegedly used by suspect tyler robinson.
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New court filing claims.
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Now we're going to have to unpack that.
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We're going to unpack a lot of that.
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But here to help us do it is somebody that
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I've been watching online for a while now.
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I've been really impressed with his takes.
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I've never met him in person before.
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But he agreed to come on because,
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He was instantly on top of this story.
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His name is justin nazarov.
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He's the ceo of fenix ammunition.
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Welcome to the show, justin.
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Thanks for having me, guys.
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Yeah, it was the first time i've ever seen you, justin.
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So it's it's great to see you.
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So let's just take apart
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This headline from the daily mail.
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I saw you criticizing it as sort of
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An egregious misrepresentation of the facts.
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They're saying the bullet does not match the rifle.
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You know, court filing claims.
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Right?
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What's your, read of what?
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Actually, it says?
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Well, i mean,
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It's one of those headlines where they can say something
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That's true,
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But because they leave out the context,
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As soon as you read the article,
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You can see why it's false.
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And so
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What they did was they analyzed a bullet
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Jacket fragment and were unable to determine
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That it came from the shooter's rifle.
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So unfortunately, ballistics science
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Is, in a lot of cases, a best guess.
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And in many other cases, pseudoscience.
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But what we know is it doesn't work like csi
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Las vegas, when a bullet hit something and deforms,
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Which is what we've been talking
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About the whole time, we're assuming
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That the shooter probably used a hollow point
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Or some other bullet that is is functionally intended
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To deform when it hits something.
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And so when it does that, it doesn't come out in a nice,
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Perfect form where you can see all the lands and grooves
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From the barrel, and make a positive match.
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So in this case, the
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They can't determine whether the bullet was fired
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From the rifle,
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But they also can't determine that it wasn't fired
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From the rifle.
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That's effectively
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Saying they're saying that there's some reasonable doubt
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That it could theoretically have been something else now.
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And i'm not making an affirmative declaration
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One way or another.
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I want people to understand
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That this has nothing to do with what i think happened,
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Or what anybody else thinks happened.
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All i'm doing is looking at the facts.
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And as somebody who has been doi
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Knowing that most people just
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Really don't understand
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Much about firearms generally and even people in the firearms
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Community, who do understand firearms
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Generally don't really know a lot about ammunition.
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Yeah.
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And so you're saying basically because
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The fragmentation of the bullet was so severe,
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You're it i don't mean to sort of
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Infer by your tone here, but you're saying, of course,
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This would be one of the options that
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Of course, you wouldn't be able to necessarily identify it,
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Via forensic evidence with the, with the gun.
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There's other ways you could
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Now the caliber matches all of these kinds of things.
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But, you know, i think what people expect is
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Sort of the csi, csi version of reality.
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A lot of people think, and i think this is a graphic
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You can see in tv shows or movies
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Where they'll take like a bunch of little pieces of metal out
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Of, like, you know, thin air.
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And then and then they'll, like,
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Put them all on to like, a little, you know, machine.
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And then like, the computer will assemble
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All the bits and they'll just see it.
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Oh, they'll like bend the bits and reassemble the bullet
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And then like, green text will pop up
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That says confirm ding ding ding. yeah.
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So yeah, i'm just going to read one of your tweets.
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I'm not going to put it up on screen
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Because you used some kind of full language here, justin.
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But you say completely and utterly misleading
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Garbage about this daily mail headline.
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You say the bullet is unable to be identified because it's
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Fragment.
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You use more colorful language here.
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It's fragmented into a bunch of pieces.
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And when that happens, they don't do some magic.
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Csi las vegas animation, where they manage
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To reassemble the bullet and perfectly aligned the
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The lands and grooves to match a barrel.
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None of that is real.
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That is not how science works.
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And so, and then, you know, it was interesting
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To watch the internet last night.
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This story hits all the usual suspects.
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Take it and run it,
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And then a bunch of saner voices come in and say this.
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This is not something new.
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We've known that this. the bullet fragmented.
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We knew that, like lining up in the first days after lining
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It perfectly up to the rifle was going to be a challenge.
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But there's other ways that you could
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You could match in theory. right.
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And again, i respect that you're
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Not trying to say this happened or that happened.
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You're just giving us the details.
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You're giving us the facts.
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There's other ways
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You could match a gun to a bullet, correct?
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Well, as an example match.
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Or they could test the metal and show this is the same metal
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As the rounds that were recovered
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With the rifle, which, remember,
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We have a rifle with rounds
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That have political messages engraved on them.
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And the casing that they have from
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This also has a message
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Engraved on it, apparently that matches or just
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I mean, i guess
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I'll even i'll even walk that back a bit further.
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It's actually very difficult to match a bullet to a rifle.
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So for example, 36 as a cartridge uses
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The same bullet that's used in 308 winchester.
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So even if you recovered a, a 308 diameter bullet
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That was perfectly intact, if you didn't have the rifle
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That it was fired from to match the lands and grooves,
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There would be no way for you to determine that it was fired
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From a rifle chambered in 308 winchester, or 36.
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And so then when you start mangling up
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Bullets that are, roughly about the same size
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Or a lot of medium to large caliber rifles used projectiles
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That are roughly the same length, roughly
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The same weight, roughly the same diameter.
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So if you smash those up into pieces,
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You may not,
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Even if you didn't have
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If they didn't have a rifle to compare it to,
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There's no, there's no, guarantee
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That they would even be able to know what the what
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The caliber of the cartridge was beyond reasonable doubt.
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So it's a very inexact science.
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And then in case, in this case, you know, candace, actually,
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Candace owens, i hate to bring her up,
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But she mentioned on her podcast on september 25th
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That the bullet was fragmented into pieces.
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So this is something that,
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You know, the people on that side
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Of the, of the fence have known for a long time.
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And this is they're just basically milking
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More, more views and more audience
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Out of the same information we already had.
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It's it's basically like schrodinger's bullet, right?
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If they had if they had managed to recover a fully intact
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Bullet where the lands and grooves matched perfectly,
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People on the other side would say, well, it's obvious
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That the bullet was planted because you're telling me
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That a bullet was fired through a human being.
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And it was it was in perfect condition.
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There's no way that that came out of charlie kirk.
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It must have been something
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That they fired in a test range.
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And this is what they're using to frame the shooter, right.
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But in this case,
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Because it's broken up into pieces,
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They can say, oh, we'll see.
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We can't even identify the bullet.
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So it's it must not have been tyler robinson.
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It has to be somebody else. it's just it's nonsense.
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Justin, hang right there.
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We got another segment with you.
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But just to sum it up for the audience here, inconclusive
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Or unable to identify is not the same as does not match.
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Or unable to identify is not the same as does not match.
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So here's here's the interesting thing.
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So if you looked at all this documentation
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And again this was not new news.
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There was a court filing, actually i think by the media
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That confirmed the fragmentation of the bullet
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And the atf report, a couple of weeks back.
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But somehow this became the headline,
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The defense also reference.
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So they
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They use this to say, hey, we're going to try and delay
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This trial even even more, which in my opinion
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Would be unfortunate, because i think the country,
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There's a void that's filled that the legal system
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Does not move at the speed of social media.
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And we see this causing problems all the time.
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But it's interesting.
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In this same document, they say the defense also referenced
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The massive size of evidence of mass
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By 28 law enforcement agencies in the case.
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According to the motion, the discovery in the case
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Includes 20,000 files, 61,500
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Pages of documents and images, and over 700 hours of video.
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Not to mention, we also find out that the
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Parents and the trans identifying
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Boyfriend, lance twiggs, are going to be prosecuted,
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Are going to be testifying on behalf of the prosecution.
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And yet, this is what becomes the headline.
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What do you make of all of that?
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Justin, when you when you kind of take it all in together?
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Well,
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It seems obvious that there are people who will latch
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On to the the piece of evidence that they think can be,
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Most, most easily used to confuse people.
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Like, i like i was getting at earlier.
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This is a, this is a situation where no man,
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No matter what they said about the bullet in particular,
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There would be a way for them to spin it, to either prove
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Or disprove what they think happened. so,
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Unfortunately, all the other evidence,
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The videos and what have you and none of that has
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Been viewable by the public.
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And i think once that does become viewable,
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It will answer a lot of these questions.
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And, you know, ideally get everybody on the same page.
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But for the time being, most of the theories,
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On the other side of the table,
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Revolve around the idea that it could not have been,
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Tyler robinson, because there's no way that a 38
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Six could have caused
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The damage that it caused without causing more damage.
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And so.
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Well, it's just a
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Yeah, a pause right there because a lot of this has and
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And i hate going into it on this, but like at some point
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We have to charlie was my friend, blake's friend.
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He sat in this chair for years,
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And it's hard to even talk about this
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Because it is graphic in nature.
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But, you know, a lot of this, conspiracy stuff goes around.
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No exit wound.
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Well, there's
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Different types of bullets, and i'm getting educated on this.
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And when you see fragmentation like this,
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What does that tell you about the nature of the round itself?
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What kind of, you know, there's hollow point.
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There's full metal jacket there.
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Does it tell you something about the type of round
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And why there wouldn't be an exit wound?
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Yeah.
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It tells me that somebody wanted charlie kirk dead.
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I mean, that's really the long and the short of it.
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If you're going to assassinate somebody,
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You would most assuredly
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Use some sort of a hollow point projectile
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Or some other type of projectile
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That's designed to break into pieces,
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Because that's what causes
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The the most terminal damage on the target.
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You would not want to use something like a full metal
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Jacket bullet
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Where it would pass all the way through the target,
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And leave a relatively small,
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Entry and possibly small exit wound.
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So this is exactly what i would expect.
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I mean, you know, like,
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You hate to say it, but if you are in a position
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To politically assassinate somebody,
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That's exactly the round that you would choose.
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So it tells me that, this is somebody who
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Thought about it a little bit and decided
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That they wanted somebody dead.
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It's consistent with somebody that knows
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Enough about firearms to understand
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That you're using, a hollow point ground for things
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Like hunting and self-defense, specifically for that reason,
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Because they expand, they unfold, they break into pieces,
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And they generally leave no exit wound,
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Because in those cases, the idea is to prevent
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Hitting somebody that's, you know, behind the person
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That you're you're trying to defend yourself from or,
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Causing it to, pass all the way through an animal
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And perhaps endanger somebody, behind it
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Or just at worst, passing through
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And not causing enough damage to, you know, either
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Eliminate the threat in the case
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Of a self-defense scenario or in the case of hunting,
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You know, to cause the animal to die quickly and humanely.
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So this is this is 100% consistent
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With what i would have expected.
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So expected the here's
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What i've gathered,
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You know, is that it apparently, 40%
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Of cases involving high velocity rounds,
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They're unable to match a bullet to a weapon
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Because of this fragmentation that happens.
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Apparently, it's it's very common.
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Almost, almost half of the cases.
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You can't match it
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Because the bullet
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Is so badly damaged, which i want to really dive
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Into that because, okay, we are still able to
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You know, make conclusions
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In cases where they can't make that match.
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And that's what we really should emphasize.
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The real news of the past few days from these filings
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From the defense
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Is they're reacting to evidence that the prosecution
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Is planning to present,
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Including at the preliminary hearing,
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That they want pushed back
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By six months because they're trying
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To drag this case out as long as possible.
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At the preliminary hearing, it is reported that
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The prosecution plans to call tyler robinson's
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Parents and tyler robinson's furry boyfriend to the stand.
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So we've seen over and over, it's actually just gets
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Wildly alleged on social media that actually his parents
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Didn't turn him in. actually, his parents don't.
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They're not cooperating with police.
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So they've just lied about these things,
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When in reality
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We know from endless documentation
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They were involved in turning him in.
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And now it appears that they're ready to testify in the case.
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Right.
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And that is how we're able to reach conclusions about,
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Again, without a bullet match.
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Yeah.
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And i
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You can't say that the casings match, the dna
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Match the markings on the bullet
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Casings match the text messages. matt. yeah.
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I mean, there's a lot of other his location matches.
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Yeah. justin, final 30s to you.
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What do you want people to
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Take away from what we believe is a misleading headline from
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The daily mail?
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Yeah.
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I want people to take away the fact that, again,
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Ballistics science is very inexact at best.
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And you're dealing with a lot of people on the internet
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Who have no knowledge of it whatsoever.
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And so it's very easy to even in court cases,
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It's very easy to confuse a jury.
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You know,
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They discussed ammunition in the kyle rittenhouse trial,
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And a lot of the information that they presented,
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Was false, in on both sides, actually.
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So this is not, this is not an exact science.
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This is not something that you can draw
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100% conclusions about.
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This is but one piece of evidence among many.
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And i wish people would just take a breath and relax.
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And i wish people would just take a breath and relax.
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Want to bring in the one,
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The only citizen kane from citizen free press.
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Welcome back to the show, my friend.
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Lots going on in the world.
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I, you know, we did.
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I didn't brief you on this,
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But if you feel like chiming in, please do.
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About this whole daily mail thing.
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I'm sure you saw the headline.
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You know, do you have thoughts? can.
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Yeah.
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Did you see what i brought?
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Headlines, i gave it.
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No, no i didn't.
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I've had a busy couple of hours, like 24 hours,
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I would say.
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Yeah, i gave, kane, there's this, there's a,
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An x guy, a twitter guy, kane, a coa.
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Oh, yeah. exactly.
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Yeah.
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So i found that tweet,
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And it was a really good sort of breakdown of
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Of why the daily mail headline is ridiculous.
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And so yeah.
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So i've got like this,
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Twitter clowns fall for charlie kirk assassination subplot.
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The bullet misdirection play. that is a good headline.
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Thank you for that one, kane. there you go.
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And then you have tyler robinson dna found all over
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Rifle.
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Furry boyfriend lance twigs called to testify.
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Thank you very much. that's very appreciated.
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I didn't even know. you know, we booked this before.
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This whole story dropped, and it's been a busy.
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Like i said, let's just say 12 to 18 hours.
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So i usually i'm, i'm like, i've got your, the
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The stack on my desktop just constantly refreshing.
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So you know me but no that's great. headlines.
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Yeah.
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There was another one where i think i just went i gave it
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A third headline to the kaneko a tweet.
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Ridiculous headline from from the daily mail.
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I didn't even want,
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I didn't link
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To the daily mail story i didn't even really want
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Because it's so confusing.
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You know, i had to read it a couple of times.
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First of all, just the way the you know, the visual,
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The graphics of daily mail are horrible.
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So they make reading stories difficult to begin with.
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And then when you go with a misleading headline like that,
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You know, it makes it even worse as you sort of go ahead.
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No, no, no, i was just going to say
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I didn't mean to cut you off.
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I, i just think it's worth reading
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Kaneko of the greats, tweet here because it was good.
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What he says.
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What a misleading headline from the daily mail.
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The atf ran
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A tool mark analysis on a bullet jacket fragment
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Recovered from charlie's autopsy.
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The result was inconclusive.
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Not no match.
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The jacket was too fragmented to compare.
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Which also
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Partially explains the lack of an exit
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When the bullet shattered on impact.
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Inconclusive means
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Insufficient evidence to draw any conclusions.
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It doesn't mean the bullet did not match the rifle.
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Like the headline says,
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The defense wants
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To use inconclusive as exculpatory evidence,
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But the prosecution wants to run chemical
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Or molecular analysis comparing the jacket alloy
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To ammunition recovered with the gun.
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Unlike tool mark analysis,
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It doesn't require an intact bullet.
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The defense is trying to block that testing from happening.
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That's the nuance of the real story.
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That's very well set and very concise.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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He's good on everything.
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That guy, he
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He had a substack for a while that he was keeping up with.
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But he, he writes fantastic stuff.
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That's why i actually put the
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The tyler robinson dna post in there as well.
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Was just that was one,
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You know, some of the best stuff is often
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Found in the replies, the top replies on twitter.
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And you know, it was just some
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It was actually grok, i think, pointing out that,
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That the tyler robinson's dna was found on the trigger.
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It was found on multiple, multiple parts of the rifle.
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So anyway, it's just ridiculous to me.
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I, you know, i'll just say this
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Because i want to hear your in blake's thoughts
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Because i don't really live in this world.
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As i've told you, i'm too busy sort of on the stack juggling
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Tabs, right?
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So i'm not able to spend time on x
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And follow what's going on in the machinations.
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And it's just it always it's just insanity to me
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That this entire subculture has built up around,
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You know, an actual belief in an alternate shooter.
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So i'm just not going to say any more than that, just.
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But it's just other than it's shocking to me.
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Like, every time i venture like i did yesterday, i'm
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Just stunned that people actually believe this stuff.
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So yeah, well, it was interesting
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To to kind of see the it was a bit of a back and forth.
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Right.
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You see the headline,
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Massive amount of, you know, we told you so.
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You know, i think people kind of
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In a weird, sick way rushing to tyler robinson's
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Defense wants tyler robinson to be acquitted in the case
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Of some people, i think it's just because they actively like
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The idea of charlie's killer getting away with it.
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Yeah, i think that's clearly the case.
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The motive with some of them,
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Some of them are
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Just so addicted to their particular conspiracy
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Hobby horses that they, you know, it's the, you know,
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Every single thing looks like a nail to a hammer.
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And, and i think some want
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To have part
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Of like an inside knowledge that they know better,
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That you can't trust the authorities.
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What's interesting to me though and i made this
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I haven't said this out loud yet,
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But that line of thinking of that you can't trust
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Our authorities.
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Well, hold on now.
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You're trusting an atf analysis that came back inconclusive.
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So if if they were just, you know, trying to,
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You know, conspire to get tyler robinson
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Convicted against the real truth
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That some other person did it or he was a patsy or whatever,
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Why would the atf not just come back
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With a oh, it's conclusive.
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It it so, so so on the one hand,
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You don't want to listen to the feds,
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But on the other hand,
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You're very willing to believe that this bullet was
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The the inconclusive findings from the atf.
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And so it kind of defeats their own argument,
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If you think of it that way.
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But, you know, listen, i think what was interesting
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From a media perspective
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And i think you would appreciate this, kane,
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Is that it felt like this headline was
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Engineered to get this reaction.
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That's what bothered me the most
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Because it was so reckless.
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It was so irresponsible.
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I call it media malfeasance.
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It was engineered to play into this cottage industry
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That's developed online.
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Yeah, there's
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There was a lot of interesting stuff that both of you said.
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But i'll start with the last part.
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Yeah.
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If look, daily
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Mail editors know what the heck
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They're doing with these headlines.
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That's it was it was they know what's going on
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In the subplot, as you said.
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And they just it was manufactured for that.
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That's why i, you know, i believe in free speech.
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But there was
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Someone who had made a comment
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That daily mail
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Should actually be blocked from acts for a week
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Or for two weeks as punishment for such a horrible headline
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Saying that the, you know, the bullet didn't match.
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And then you know what, going into what you guys said before,
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It is just look, it's it's it's weird.
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Any time you try to get into the brain
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Of a conspiracy theorist. right.
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How do you go into all of the reasons that maybe,
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You know, they get a thrill out of it.
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They want to know stuff that other people don't know.
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All of that is true.
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And it's and it's kind of sucks.
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I mean, i want, you know, part of me always feels like,
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You know, it
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Sort of sucks
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That it's
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Allowed to be out there, that this kind of stuff is allowed
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To, you know, get seep into the, the,
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The subconscious of what happened
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Surrounding charlie's assassination.
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But at the same time, it's free speech.
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And you can't, you know,
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You got a lot of everything,
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But but this is really one of those examples
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Where i wish certain people could have been.
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You could have been gagged, you know, just maybe
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If there was a stupidity meter for speech,
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That your speech has to pass a sub level bar before
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It's allowed in, you know, for the rest of us to hear.
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But anyway, yeah, i don't know how you guys deal with it.
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There is a don't know how you deal with it.
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Yeah. i, you know, listen,
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The only way through is through cain.
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I will tell you.
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And, god gives us enough grace for each and every day.
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I will tell you.
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Citizen Kane: April 1, 2026 | Charlie Kirk Today

April 1, 2026 | 23:28

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