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Charlie Kirk Today | Dr. Larry Arnn: July 3, 2026 | Charlie Kirk Today | July 3, 2026
- Yes, it's july
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- 3rd, but it's a special july 4th episode.
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- And i will tell you, we have an absolute legend
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- For you guys today.
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- And that is,
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- Of course, doctor larry arnn, president of hillsdale college,
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- One of charlie's dearest friends and truly
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- An icon of our age who runs one of the most important
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- Institutions in the country.
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- Doctor, doctor arnn, welcome back to the show.
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- It's so good to have you.
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- Good to be with you guys.
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- You guys are like kids to me.
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- I think of you as family.
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- Thank you. sir.
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- Well, we look up to you, in some, pretty incredible ways.
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- And i think
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- You deserve every ounce of our respect and admiration.
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- And i can't think of a better person to have on the show.
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- As we look toward the two 50th anniversary
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- Of the creation of the united states of
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- America, the greatest nation in the history of the world.
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- What does this mean?
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- What kind of accomplishment
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- Does this actually represent in the history of humanity?
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- A self-governing republic making it to 250 years of age?
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- Well,
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- Start with the fact that it's the first one.
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- That was never before.
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- They made some radical innovations
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- As against england and the continent
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- And as against all previous political experience.
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- They set out to devise a country
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- That would be stable and strong and free and governed
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- Entirely by the consent of the governed, never before.
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- If you read your aristotle,
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- He will tell you that the mixed regime is
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- The only way is the best way to get stability.
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- And what is that regime?
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- If you're an aristocrat, you get a special,
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- Measure of power.
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- Because of that, if you're the monarch, you get a special.
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- And then the mini,
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- The deems the democracy, they get some special power.
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- Now it's everybody.
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- And to make that happen and to think that through
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- And do it for the first time
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- And remember the people who signed that document
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- Thought they were signing their death warrants.
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- They, they they thought they had no choice.
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- One of the founders,
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- And i'm not remembering the names of the two guys right
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- Now. it's in a movie
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- We made lately called revolutionary america.
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- One of them was fat short.
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- One of them's tong skinny,
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- And the fat short one said to the tall, skinny one,
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- You have the advantage of me when they hang us.
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- I'll die quickly.
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- You might dangle for an hour.
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- So that's how it began.
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- And it's beautiful.
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- It is beautiful and it's special and it's precious.
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- And, you know, one of the reasons
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- We want to celebrate 250 here on the show
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- And in the country, and make a big deal about it,
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- Is because we believe that's the right interpretation
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- And understanding of history
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- And understanding of our country.
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- You wrote a book, doctor arnn, that
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- I mean, i think you wrote this 13 years ago,
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- And it is just as critical for understanding
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- Our current moment as ever before,
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- If not more so than when you wrote it.
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- And that's the founders key
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- What what is the argument you're making and why is it so
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- Important right now?
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- Well, i,
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- Until busy to write long books
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- Or any books except things that last a long time.
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- You know, in other words, if there's a
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- If the declaration of
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- Independence was true when it was written,
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- Then it's true today.
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- That's what it says.
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- If it isn't true today, it wasn't true then.
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- So the first step is to understand it.
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- I set out to explain it what we mean
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- By the laws of nature and nature's god.
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- What do we mean?
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- All men are created equal.
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- What are these rights with which we are endowed?
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- What are they?
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- The second thing i tried to do was show
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- That it's a very commanding document.
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- It's a revolutionary document.
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- It demands things of us.
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- And one of the things that demands is the constitution.
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- A constitution like ours.
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- I wanted to show that those two documents are inseparable.
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- There's overlap in the people who wrote them.
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- And why are they?
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- And so there was this at the time
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- That i wrote the book,
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- There was a scholarship still around,
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- And it says the declaration of independence.
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- We really like it.
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- It's a very radical document.
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- The constitution comes along later,
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- And it's a conservative document.
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- It differs in spirit from the constitution.
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- Well,
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- What is the connection between the two documents apart
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- From the overlapping people who wrote them?
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- They come 11 years apart.
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- The middle of the declaration of independence.
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- The structure of the declaration of independence.
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- It's 1400 words long.
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- The lesson that you read it, it's really great.
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- Read it and read it.
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- The beginning is very universal.
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- The end is very particular.
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- It's.
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- We in this room pledge to each other.
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- Our fortunes, lives, and sacred honor.
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- In the middle are the reasons that justify the revolution.
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- And those reasons are a list of things
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- The king and parliament have done to us.
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- And those things include
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- Violating the separation of powers,
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- Which gives the structure to our constitution.
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- Congress, courts, the executive.
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- Another
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- Is failures of representation.
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- He has not respected
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- Our elected rulers.
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- He himself has maintained.
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- Thomas jefferson writes in 1774,
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- And in the sentence that i've always loved, it's
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- Sort of the american spirit.
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- It's sort of charlie kirk spirit to,
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- Last paragraph of this essay called
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- A summary view of the rights of british north america begins.
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- Let not those
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- Let those flatter who fear, sire.
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- It is not an american art.
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- And then he goes on to say.
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- You and your ministers are servants.
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- Well, he had violated that which is the consent
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- Of the governed.
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- And so the point is, just think backwards.
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- If it's a cause for rebellion that these high
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- Principles of constitutionalism are violated,
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- Then we need a constitution that doesn't violate them.
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- And ours was so devised.
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- It is changed in some ways that i think very regrettable.
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- And what i mean is the congress
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- Doesn't make the laws anymore.
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- And they, you know, it's made in a permanent
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- Administrative state, which, by the way, is supreme court.
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- Case just affirmed that the president can fire
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- Those guys, which is very good because.
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- It's not that i like the president
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- Better than the bureaucrats.
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- Sometimes i do and sometimes i don't.
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- It's that we elect the president.
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- He has the consent of the governed behind him.
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- So you see the constitution is implied by the declaration.
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- And remember when i say that it's a revolutionary document,
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- It's also a challenge document because it says,
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- If you behave in this way toward your fellow man,
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- You are in the right.
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- And if you do not, you are in the wrong.
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- And that means that it requires of us
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- That we live a certain way and govern ourselves
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- A certain way.
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- And that's why the document is so revolutionary.
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- Because think, think of this crazy thing.
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- If i ask you, you're an educated man.
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- What is the birthday of great britain
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- Or france or china?
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- It's kind of hard to say, isn't it?
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- Those days they developed over time.
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- Those countries long periods of time, by the way.
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- We have a birthday.
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- There was a day, july the 3rd, 1776,
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- And there was no united states of america.
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- And then the next day there was one.
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- It's our birthday.
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- And it
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- And the the the document that constitutes the birthday gives
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- The reasons for the country and how it should be governed
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- In fewer than 1400 words.
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- That's pretty good.
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- It is pretty good.
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- Well said, doctor,
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- And you have a way of putting things
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- That, makes you see them from a whole new vantage point.
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- Hang right there, doctor, and we'll be right back with you.
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- Hang right there, doctor, and we'll be right back with you.
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- We have
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- The president of hillsdale college, and he is.
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- He's devoted this time to us, to celebrate 250,
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- To look back, but also to look forward, to be grateful.
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- You know, it strikes me, doctor arnn, there's
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- A lot of people out there that want to,
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- They want to be dumas.
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- They want a black pill on america.
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- But charlie had a rule, and it was very, very firm.
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- And blake will attest,
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- There is no black pilling on this show.
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- We have so much reason to be,
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- I think, hopeful based on our our past
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- And based on the promise of the future.
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- Like a really personal question for you, doc john.
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- I am personally very upset about the supreme court
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- Ruling on birthright citizenship.
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- This this week.
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- But why should we be grateful?
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- And why should we have hope?
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- Why do you have hope for the future of america?
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- Well, i think everything is doomed.
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- Know, i think, it,
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- One of my great teacher in life.
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- I, too, when i was named harry jaffa,
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- And he's writing a beautiful book
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- Called crisis a house divided in 1956.
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- He wrote that book,
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- And in a key chapter he says
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- It is the hope that inspires,
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- That is inspired and inspired
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- By the declaration of independence, of opportunity
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- For all that provides the energy to america.
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- Oh, right.
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- America is a challenge.
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- I grew up in pocahontas, arkansas,
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- And my dad was a schoolteacher.
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- He never made any money.
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- Speak of.
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- Somehow i grew up thinking i could do anything.
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- And, you
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- Know, i did a few things, right?
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- And, look at charlie's career.
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- Charlie is 17 and 18 years old,
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- And he gets this idea, and he starts to strip it
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- On people sofas, and he builds a great organization.
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- Who told him he could do that?
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- Right?
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- He just thought he could.
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- And that's america.
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- Other countries do not have that in the same measure
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- Because they don't begin the way we begin.
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- And they're not organized the way we are.
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- The danger to the country.
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- You didn't like the birthright citizenship
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- Decision, nor did i very much.
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- Did not like it.
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- But that's partly because they don't.
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- They miss the point.
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- The reason your,
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- A member, your, a subject of england or france
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- If you're born there is because you are subjects.
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- You're here. you're born here.
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- You are responsible to the king.
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- The king tells you right here.
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- You are a citizen.
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- It requires an active step.
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- And the active step is either
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- Two people who are citizens or one
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- Give birth to you.
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- An implicit obligation of citizenship
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- To raise your child, to know and support his country.
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- Or you take the legal steps
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- That are necessary to attest to it.
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- Just born here does it in america.
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- It can make you a subject wherever you're born.
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- It can't make you a citizen.
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- And that's another thing that's so hopeful
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- And wonderful about the declaration
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- Of independence, so important about it.
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- Right.
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- Any nobody can be an important american.
- 00:12:22.899 --> 00:12:28.138
- But america is a set of practices and beliefs,
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- And one must subscribe to those you know, the citizenship
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- Today's test today that is administered to,
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- At least millions of people.
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- Hundreds of thousands for sure, every year.
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- It actually is excellent.
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- And what it requires them to do is to commit
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- The principles of the nation and the laws of the nation.
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- And those principles.
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- See? remember, we are responsible for those.
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- We are the source of the immediate laws
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- And are entitlement to do that is under laws
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- That no one makes except god,
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- Under the laws of nature and of nature's god.
- 00:13:05.876 --> 00:13:09.312
- And that you see that that system.
- 00:13:09.312 --> 00:13:12.082
- It's, lincoln says very beautifully once.
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- Well, i'll tell you about leon
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- Lincoln never gave didn't give an important speech
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- On the 4th of july in his life, which is an oddity.
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- But on the 10th of july, 1858, in chicago,
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- He gave one of the greatest speeches anybody ever gave.
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- And here's
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- A i'll paraphrase the speech for you.
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- He says, we get together on this day
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- And we celebrate the greatness of our country.
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- It's grown so much. it's so big.
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- There's so many of us.
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- We produce so much, we grow, we
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- Build awesome.
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- It's just.
- 00:13:50.120 --> 00:13:51.121
- But then we and we look back to those fathers
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- Who built that, of course, of independence.
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- And we think that they were iron.
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- I've always loved that.
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- I can almost hear lincoln say, iron man,
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- Can we see a problem?
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- Because we don't really come from us, from them.
- 00:14:07.637 --> 00:14:11.141
- Many of us have come
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- From other places, and later
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- We are not blood of the blood
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- And flesh of the flesh of the fathers who came before us
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- Here.
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- The bible.
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- Then he says that.
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- Then we look at the declaration
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- And we see what it says,
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- And it says that all men are created equal.
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- Then that is the electric cord.
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- He said, that unites the hearts of liberty
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- Loving men everywhere on earth.
- 00:14:41.538 --> 00:14:44.674
- That is the father of all moral principle in us.
- 00:14:44.674 --> 00:14:48.979
- You see and remember, there's the direct appeal to god
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- As he is known through faith and through reason.
- 00:14:53.750 --> 00:14:56.753
- In that document, it begins with that.
- 00:14:56.753 --> 00:14:58.788
- That is the authority under which they risked their lives.
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- And remember what they did to england.
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- Right?
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- It was nobody took them seriously.
- 00:15:06.730 --> 00:15:10.333
- And they thought the cause
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- Was probably hopeless when they started.
- 00:15:12.736 --> 00:15:15.605
- Right.
- 00:15:15.605 --> 00:15:16.706
- What they did was take a territory away from george.
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- The third.
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- That was as large at that time
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- As the roman empire at its peak.
- 00:15:23.146 --> 00:15:26.016
- That's what a victory they want, and they want it
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- In the name of these things.
- 00:15:28.351 --> 00:15:31.087
- You see those soldiers at valley forge?
- 00:15:31.087 --> 00:15:34.391
- What were they thinking?
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- They were thinking
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- These people can't tell us what to do.
- 00:15:38.128 --> 00:15:41.164
- We have to live our lives.
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- And we didn't elect them.
- 00:15:43.133 --> 00:15:45.068
- And that means that it was in the heart of everyone,
- 00:15:45.068 --> 00:15:49.005
- And they suffered for it and died for many.
- 00:15:49.005 --> 00:15:52.475
- You see, that's inspiring.
- 00:15:52.475 --> 00:15:54.577
- And you ask me, what is the cause for hope?
- 00:15:54.577 --> 00:15:56.946
- There is a cause for hope for our country.
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- The ultimate cause for hope is god.
- 00:16:00.483 --> 00:16:03.053
- The hope for our country
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- Is that set of arrangements that are unique to us.
- 00:16:04.754 --> 00:16:08.691
- I love what you said and i can't remember
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- If you were quoting somebody, but you said it was the,
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- The opportunity
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- For all people that provides the energy to the country.
- 00:16:16.399 --> 00:16:19.736
- And then you related that to charlie's own story.
- 00:16:19.736 --> 00:16:22.372
- It's like nobody gave charlie permission
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- To build turning point.
- 00:16:25.308 --> 00:16:26.443
- It was imbued into his character, into his spirit
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- By an underlying understanding of his relationship
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- To the country, his relationship to god.
- 00:16:34.584 --> 00:16:37.420
- And so he went out and he took it and he built it.
- 00:16:37.420 --> 00:16:40.690
- And, yeah, i think that is the single most
- 00:16:40.690 --> 00:16:43.660
- Hopeful thing i've heard anybody say about the country.
- 00:16:43.660 --> 00:16:47.397
- Actually, at its most fundamental level,
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- A doctor aunt, stay right there.
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- A doctor aunt, stay right there.
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- Right doctor arnn,
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- This is the final segment
- 00:17:01.745 --> 00:17:04.482
- Of the final show before we we welcome in 250.
- 00:17:04.482 --> 00:17:09.653
- I mean, we've got the founders key, we've got hillsdale,
- 00:17:09.653 --> 00:17:13.090
- We've got turning point.
- 00:17:13.090 --> 00:17:14.225
- There's so much we could talk about in this segment.
- 00:17:14.225 --> 00:17:17.394
- But what do you think
- 00:17:17.895 --> 00:17:19.096
- Is the most important thing that we leave our audience
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- With before they go into the weekend?
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- And the 250 celebration?
- 00:17:23.601 --> 00:17:26.303
- Well, they need to have a good day tomorrow.
- 00:17:26.303 --> 00:17:28.105
- I should remember, by the way, at the
- 00:17:28.105 --> 00:17:30.975
- At the time that we're talking, 250 years ago, the signing
- 00:17:30.975 --> 00:17:34.945
- Of the declaration dependance had already started.
- 00:17:34.945 --> 00:17:37.982
- They didn't sign it all on the fourth.
- 00:17:37.982 --> 00:17:40.084
- They would go in,
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- I think, from the second to the fifth as well.
- 00:17:41.118 --> 00:17:43.154
- They cited.
- 00:17:43.154 --> 00:17:43.621
- So we're busy
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- Reenacting their assignment, their signing ceremony today.
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- Yeah.
- 00:17:49.026 --> 00:17:49.894
- You should have a good day tomorrow.
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- And i would suggest that you, read
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- Where i'm a big picnic at hillsdale
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- College for the whole community.
- 00:17:54.498 --> 00:17:55.699
- Well, i have hundreds of people here.
- 00:17:55.699 --> 00:17:57.501
- We're giving them all hot
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- Dogs and hamburgers, which were, as you know,
- 00:17:58.536 --> 00:18:01.372
- Invented by the founding fathers as the national food.
- 00:18:01.372 --> 00:18:04.942
- And, they were not, you know, it wasn't pizza.
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- It wasn't pizza.
- 00:18:09.079 --> 00:18:09.747
- No, that came later.
- 00:18:09.747 --> 00:18:10.881
- But that was an important benefit of immigration
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- To america.
- 00:18:13.717 --> 00:18:14.952
- There have been many benefits of immigration to america, to,
- 00:18:14.952 --> 00:18:17.922
- So, we're going to have the patriotic readings
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- We call them.
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- And i've been reading them
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- Every declaration every july 4th since
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- Graduate school.
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- And, they should read the declaration
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- Should read out loud.
- 00:18:33.003 --> 00:18:34.405
- Then they should read,
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- The first two pages
- 00:18:37.041 --> 00:18:40.077
- Of abraham lincoln's july the 10th, 1858 speech
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- In chicago with the electric cord in it.
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- And they should remember then,
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- That our country was founded by iron men,
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- And that they established principles.
- 00:18:52.323 --> 00:18:54.592
- That makes us blood of the flood
- 00:18:54.592 --> 00:18:56.694
- And flesh of the flesh with those fathers,
- 00:18:56.694 --> 00:19:00.231
- Although we are not related to them, except some of us.
- 00:19:00.231 --> 00:19:03.701
- They can think about that.
- 00:19:04.268 --> 00:19:06.770
- And then and then they that i urge them,
- 00:19:06.770 --> 00:19:10.441
- They should embark upon a study of the proper
- 00:19:11.375 --> 00:19:14.445
- Arrangement of government, because that and the you know.
- 00:19:14.445 --> 00:19:18.882
- Yeah, things have causes.
- 00:19:18.882 --> 00:19:21.452
- Right.
- 00:19:21.452 --> 00:19:22.219
- And classic philosophy, therefore
- 00:19:22.219 --> 00:19:25.456
- Things are made out of stuff.
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- The cup is made out of glass.
- 00:19:26.890 --> 00:19:29.059
- Somebody made them.
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- Whoever made this cup,
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- It has a form.
- 00:19:34.698 --> 00:19:37.401
- Well, it's it has a final cost.
- 00:19:37.401 --> 00:19:39.270
- The final cause is to drink from it.
- 00:19:39.270 --> 00:19:42.606
- That's the final cause of the cup final.
- 00:19:42.606 --> 00:19:45.175
- Cause of the country is the protection
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- Of the inalienable rights of all of its people.
- 00:19:48.712 --> 00:19:52.449
- And the cup has a form.
- 00:19:52.950 --> 00:19:54.418
- The form is.
- 00:19:54.418 --> 00:19:55.552
- It's shaped like something you can pick up like that.
- 00:19:55.552 --> 00:19:57.388
- If it's too hot.
- 00:19:57.388 --> 00:19:58.922
- But the handle that keeps it,
- 00:19:58.922 --> 00:20:00.491
- You know, and and you drink from it.
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- The form of the united states of america
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- Is provided by the constitution of the united states.
- 00:20:05.729 --> 00:20:08.699
- And you can't identify america
- 00:20:09.300 --> 00:20:11.602
- Unless you identify those things.
- 00:20:11.602 --> 00:20:14.538
- And then people should embark on learning what they mean.
- 00:20:14.538 --> 00:20:17.641
- Why are they the way they they are?
- 00:20:17.641 --> 00:20:20.511
- What is the argument for them?
- 00:20:20.511 --> 00:20:22.880
- What?
- 00:20:22.880 --> 00:20:24.081
- Because we made the argument against them every day, right?
- 00:20:24.081 --> 00:20:27.017
- You can't watch the news.
- 00:20:27.017 --> 00:20:28.786
- One of the reasons people watch this show, thank god many do,
- 00:20:28.786 --> 00:20:32.156
- Is because they're not getting that standard stuff right.
- 00:20:32.156 --> 00:20:35.826
- And and so you should put together in your mind,
- 00:20:35.826 --> 00:20:40.764
- Forget about what anybody claims about it today.
- 00:20:40.764 --> 00:20:43.734
- You want to understand the constitution.
- 00:20:43.734 --> 00:20:45.836
- The united states
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- Read the declaration of independence, read
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- The constitution and then read the federalist papers.
- 00:20:49.773 --> 00:20:52.643
- We have an online course on those two.
- 00:20:52.643 --> 00:20:55.312
- Those were written by three guys.
- 00:20:55.312 --> 00:20:56.914
- Good.
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- Who helped, you know, and and they helped
- 00:20:57.848 --> 00:21:00.984
- Make the constitution.
- 00:21:00.984 --> 00:21:02.119
- And they wrote those, by the way,
- 00:21:02.119 --> 00:21:03.620
- The federalist papers is 85 newspaper articles
- 00:21:03.620 --> 00:21:07.057
- Published in new york in 1787, 88.
- 00:21:07.057 --> 00:21:10.928
- Hamilton and madison
- 00:21:11.395 --> 00:21:13.831
- Key to the writing of the constitution.
- 00:21:13.831 --> 00:21:16.066
- And john jay, first justice, supreme court
- 00:21:16.066 --> 00:21:19.603
- Chief justice, supreme court.
- 00:21:19.603 --> 00:21:21.605
- Those guys wrote those papers, and they're written
- 00:21:21.605 --> 00:21:24.575
- As newspaper articles to tell people how to vote.
- 00:21:24.575 --> 00:21:28.812
- And you will see that they are beautiful.
- 00:21:28.812 --> 00:21:31.415
- And that means that they were addressing a population
- 00:21:31.415 --> 00:21:34.385
- That could read and think.
- 00:21:34.385 --> 00:21:36.920
- And we need to get back to that right now.
- 00:21:36.920 --> 00:21:39.423
- And, you know, you guys are open to do that.
- 00:21:39.423 --> 00:21:42.292
- Charlie,
- 00:21:42.559 --> 00:21:43.927
- Our friend,
- 00:21:44.261 --> 00:21:45.596
- He called me up one day and said that i'm going
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- To publish a book telling people not to go to college.
- 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:52.102
- And i said, you know, he knows what line of work i'm in.
- 00:21:52.102 --> 00:21:55.038
- And i said, okay.
- 00:21:55.038 --> 00:21:56.206
- He said, i'm going to exempt hillsdale college.
- 00:21:56.206 --> 00:22:00.511
- Oh, there you go.
- 00:22:00.944 --> 00:22:01.945
- And, i said, okay, you don't have to do that.
- 00:22:01.945 --> 00:22:04.982
- He said, i have to do that.
- 00:22:04.982 --> 00:22:06.550
- I that's the one that you go to.
- 00:22:06.550 --> 00:22:08.752
- So the point is, charlie,
- 00:22:08.752 --> 00:22:12.456
- Why do you call me?
- 00:22:12.923 --> 00:22:15.225
- Right.
- 00:22:15.225 --> 00:22:15.859
- It's it's i love that boy.
- 00:22:15.859 --> 00:22:18.796
- Why did i love him?
- 00:22:18.796 --> 00:22:20.464
- He loved to learn.
- 00:22:20.464 --> 00:22:22.232
- He wanted so hard to get it right.
- 00:22:22.232 --> 00:22:25.269
- I was just on a board
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- Call with the claremont institute, which i.
- 00:22:27.404 --> 00:22:30.240
- Where i used to work. and i'm on the board now,
- 00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:33.744
- And we were talking about one of our programs
- 00:22:33.744 --> 00:22:35.879
- And what kind of people this is.
- 00:22:35.879 --> 00:22:38.182
- Within the last two hours, what kind of people
- 00:22:38.182 --> 00:22:41.418
- Should come to the program?
- 00:22:42.019 --> 00:22:44.154
- And one guy said, yeah, people who are going to get phds
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- And college professors.
- 00:22:46.623 --> 00:22:47.658
- Everybody said, yeah, that's really fine.
- 00:22:47.658 --> 00:22:49.626
- And then charles kessler, who's the editor of the claremont
- 00:22:49.626 --> 00:22:52.162
- Review, said, well,
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- One of the best students we ever had was charlie kirk,
- 00:22:53.764 --> 00:22:56.934
- And he does not even have a college degree.
- 00:22:56.934 --> 00:22:59.770
- And that boy learn.
- 00:22:59.770 --> 00:23:01.138
- I remember.
- 00:23:01.138 --> 00:23:03.140
- And it you know, i just said, and charlie, i'm
- 00:23:03.140 --> 00:23:05.209
- The one who recommended him.
- 00:23:05.209 --> 00:23:06.109
- I said, yeah, go do that thing right.
- 00:23:06.109 --> 00:23:08.045
- And i wrote him a letter for charlie doctor on and
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- Yeah, god bless you for that, doctor.
- 00:23:11.381 --> 00:23:13.817
- And we have to wrap it.
- 00:23:13.817 --> 00:23:14.952
- This was amazing.
- 00:23:14.952 --> 00:23:16.653
- We are like sponges when you teach us.
- 00:23:16.653 --> 00:23:18.956
- And we are so grateful for your time, doctor arnn
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- God bless you and happy two 50th.
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