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  • International fellowship of christians and jews.
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  • Okay, so we're going to have doctor
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  • Oz joining us in just a second.
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  • I'm waiting for confirmation
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  • That he is, in fact, ready to go.
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  • It looks like he's just getting seated, so, sir,
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  • The floor is yours.
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  • I know you had a personal friendship with charlie.
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  • You texted often,
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  • And i just want to give you the opportunity to,
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  • To remember him in your own words.
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  • Well, kudos to you for carrying on the legacy.
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  • I spent a lot of time with charlie.
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  • He was very helpful.
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  • We got to know him quite, quite well during the campaign,
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  • But we also stayed.
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  • I saw him the last time here in washington in june.
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  • We're going to do a show.
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  • We were at a meal together, and we did, but
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  • The bombing of iran happened.
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  • So we said, well, you know, we'll do it in september.
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  • And it speaks to,
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  • The unfortunate reality that life is so unpredictable.
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  • I'm not going to take everyone through the trauma
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  • Of that whole experience.
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  • Obviously, i joined the president
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  • When we flew out to, to the event in phoenix,
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  • Which was one of the top, you know, memorable
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  • Moment in my life.
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  • And i've had a lot of interesting experiences.
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  • But i think it speaks to the power,
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  • That charlie and the whole movement
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  • Has had in waking people up, to, to the some of the
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  • Dishonest narratives that we've been tricked with.
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  • But it sort of goes back,
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  • I think, very fundamentally to respecting some of those
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  • Judeo-christian traditions that so often have guided us
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  • Into successful relationships, raising wonderful families,
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  • Living in communities that are functional.
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  • And we don't honor some of those basic principles.
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  • We are in the trouble.
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  • And, this election day,
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  • One of the many things
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  • That's, being evaluated is what's called this
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  • Government shutdown.
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  • And i thought i'd use this maybe a jumping point
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  • To speak to those very values that charlie was and you
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  • And others would speak to.
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  • We are a nation, that treasures work.
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  • We believe in our country.
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  • That business is good.
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  • And you want to work in
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  • Business, and you want to do good things
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  • For your community
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  • Through those businesses and build value in society and
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  • Do things that fix problems.
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  • All the things
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  • That, that many of us grew up, i think believing was income
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  • Meant, to our, our opportunity, as americans.
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  • Yeah.
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  • And many people came from other parts of the world
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  • Because they know,
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  • And found out that america actually still
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  • Does those things
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  • That their country stopped doing, like
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  • Go to work, play a role in improving society, have agency
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  • Over your own life, because it matters.
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  • God put you here to do something.
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  • And whatever that thing is, go out and do it.
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  • So when we faced, as we came into the administration,
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  • A reality that medicaid was basically insolvent
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  • Because of some of the things that had been done
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  • During the pandemic, but some of that predated
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  • The pandemic as well.
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  • We had generated a system that just was not going to be,
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  • Functional for much longer.
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  • That would put our most vulnerable at risk.
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  • I'm sitting in the humphrey building in washington,
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  • Right across from the capital.
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  • As you walk into our building,
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  • There's a quote from hubert humphrey,
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  • And it says, it's the,
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  • You know, he uses light as a metaphor.
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  • It is the moral
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  • Obligation of government, he says,
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  • Moral obligation of all of us to take care of those.
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  • At the dawn of life, children, those at the twilight of life,
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  • The seniors and those who are living in the shadows.
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  • Now get that haunting metaphors. powerful.
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  • So it feels almost biblical.
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  • So if you're going to protect
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  • Our most vulnerable, you can't allow fraud,
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  • Waste, and abuse to strip it of its vitality.
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  • So the president very directly told me to preserve,
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  • For example, medicare, don't touch medicare,
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  • You know, don't hurt the vulnerable on medicaid,
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  • But take the fraud, waste and abuse out of the system.
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  • We have been doing that.
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  • Now we're going to continue to do that.
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  • The democrats have shut down washington.
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  • They shut the government down because they believe
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  • That one big, beautiful bill, which codify
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  • Many of
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  • The things that makes sense to clean up medicaid
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  • And protect it for the most vulnerable.
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  • We're wrong.
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  • They want to, for example,
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  • Allow illegal immigrants to continue
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  • To get funded for their health care benefits.
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  • This fundamentally changes the equation.
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  • Democrats don't like this.
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  • A work requirement,
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  • But we tell people, fine, if you're in a difficult spot,
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  • We'll pay for your health care,
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  • But you need to actually try to get a job.
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  • Or if you can't get a job, go volunteer somewhere,
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  • Go take care of somebody, go get an education.
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  • Do something to reinforce what you should know
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  • Deep down inside, which is god's.
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  • Got a plan for you and go act on it.
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  • And these are fundamental differences
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  • In how folks are seeing the future of this country.
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  • I believe because work is so fundamental to who we are
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  • That we should have a work requirement.
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  • I believe that if you're an american citizen,
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  • You should get support for your health care.
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  • But illegal immigrants coming here and induced to stay here
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  • Because you're given free health care,
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  • That should not be part of the equation.
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  • Certainly the federal government
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  • Should not be paying for that.
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  • And we know for example,
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  • And just to not to get into too much the weeds
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  • Here, that's there are some states.
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  • There are six in the country, six out of 50 states allow
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  • Separate money to be paid to illegal
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  • Immigrant health care from their state budgets.
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  • They claim, they claim.
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  • And of course, that allows them to recruit
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  • And retain illegal immigrants, despite what federal law
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  • Is around coming across borders illegally.
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  • And they think that's okay.
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  • And now we are just identifying breaking news,
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  • Our share it with you that we believe is over $1
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  • Billion that has been taken from federal tax money
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  • To support these programs.
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  • In fact, they're starting to pay us back.
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  • So i'm pretty sure we're right.
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  • Wow. i wanted to play this clip for you from rachel maddow.
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  • And there
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  • It's in
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  • Relation to the government shutdown, where
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  • She's basically saying, well, if you stripped the subsidy
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  • Subsidies out of obamacare, the aca,
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  • Then all these costs are going
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  • To go up for americans right now.
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  • We republicans have been warning
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  • About these subsidies
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  • For years that they're going to make
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  • Medicaid and medicare insolvent in the long run.
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  • But i want you to
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  • Give you a chance to respond to this and debunk this one. 37
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  • Look at these numbers
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  • From from the new york times tonight,
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  • Based on the newly posted information,
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  • Meaning the pricing information
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  • That's now being posted in multiple states, a family
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  • Of four making $130,000 in maine.
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  • So you combine the family's income, everybody's
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  • Salaries, you got up to $130,000.
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  • That family would face an increase in their annual
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  • Health insurance premiums next year of $16,100.
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  • That's how much their health insurance premiums would go up.
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  • This is what democrats have been drawing the line
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  • About in the shutdown, telling republicans
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  • That this is the thing they need to fix.
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  • Doctor oz, this is your your world.
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  • In respond to rachel maddow because that clip on facebook,
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  • By the way, had like 100,000 likes.
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  • So if a lot of people are seeing it.
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  • So president obama,
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  • Who created the affordable care act, right?
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  • It's called obamacare.
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  • When he, pushed through congress
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  • In a very partizan way, the affordable care act,
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  • There was funding for people who are at the poverty level.
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  • The question then becomes,
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  • How do you define the poverty level?
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  • Well, they defined it as four times more than poverty.
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  • So poverty level, let's just make a number up is 16,000.
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  • But make it make it simple. make it $20,000.
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  • The poverty level then four times that for individual
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  • $80,000 is how much they were willing to cover.
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  • They weren't going to cover five, six, seven, eight times
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  • The poverty level date. this had to pick a number.
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  • We all do.
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  • So obamacare did not cover
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  • People who are making more than four times the poverty level.
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  • For that reason, when they added these covid
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  • Benefits, they were purely added
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  • Because we were in a pandemic and a war,
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  • And they were added for a very short period of time,
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  • And they were set to end when the pandemic ended.
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  • Are we out of the pandemic?
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  • We're out of the pandemic.
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  • Of course,
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  • We should not have pandemic
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  • Era war time rules when we're at peace.
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  • So the democrats wrote the law.
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  • It expires at the end of this year.
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  • And so it's their decision.
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  • They knew it was supposed to expire.
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  • Original obamacare never covered
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  • People making four times medicare.
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  • Rachel maddow just picked an example of someone who's making
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  • Whatever was $150,000 a year, who was making more
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  • Than four times medicare.
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  • Therefore, there were not ever eligible for obamacare.
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  • And she's complaining that what was done during covid
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  • As a stopgap measure
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  • To deal with the pandemic is now being expiring.
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  • So that's a problem for the republicans.
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  • We were even willing, even willing, despite all that,
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  • To negotiate
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  • And talk about some of these issues,
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  • But only if we find a true solution
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  • To the fundamental flaws and a broken system.
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  • Obamacare pricing
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  • Has increased so much faster than anyone ever imagined.
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  • It is becoming unaffordable
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  • Even when the government is paying for it.
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  • But that's not what the democrats want it.
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  • They want to hold this hostage at the last moment.
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  • They say, forget about it.
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  • If you don't, with a gun to your head, agree
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  • To extend all these subsidies you just pay.
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  • Forget about dealing with the cost.
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  • Just pay for it.
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  • We're going to hold you up.
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  • And the president, a very wise
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  • You very bravely, together with congressional leadership,
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  • Said, no, we are not going to be extorted.
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  • You guys caused this problem.
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  • It's your issue.
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  • We will help you fix it, but don't blame it on us.
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  • And yet i think legacy media, new york times good example.
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  • They tell stories that are
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  • Literally like aesop's fables without the morality.
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  • I think that's really well said.
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  • And i'm,
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  • You know, sitting to my left is blake neff,
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  • One of our producers here on the show doctor oz.
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  • And one of the things you rail about blake.
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  • And we're running out of time here.
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  • I wish i could give you the floor.
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  • Is that just when you get somebody addicted
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  • To a government subsidy, it's really just becomes permanent.
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  • It becomes forever.
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  • Everything becomes permanent. and that's what we've seen.
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  • So the whole narrative
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  • That we're trying to strip health care from people
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  • Know this is covid era spending that is unsustainable.
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  • We have to do something to bring it back.
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  • Yeah,
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  • We want to make health care more affordable,
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  • But this is not the way to bankrupt the country.
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  • But if i can just jump,
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  • Jump in here because i do think it's critical.
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  • What is the average amount of premium
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  • That an obamacare recipient will get next year?
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  • After all
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  • These things that rachel says are so horrible expire?
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  • It's going to be $50.
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  • That's it.
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  • It's $13 more than this year.
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  • That's the whole battle.
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  • Literally the average average person is going to be asked
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  • To pay $50 for a month for their insurance.
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  • In genesis
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  • 12 three, god made a powerful promise
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  • To abraham, the father of the jewish people.
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  • I will bless those who bless you.
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  • The christian bible tells us that we have been grafted
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  • Into god's family tree, the rich olive tree of israel.
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  • The very foundations of the christian faith,
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  • The bible and jesus, whom christians call
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  • The messiah, are deeply rooted in israel.
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  • Supporting israel aligns christians with god's
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  • Prophetic timeline.
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  • It demonstrates our willingness to be instruments of
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  • God's blessing, uplifting his chosen people,
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  • And it calls us to confront and heal
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  • The centuries old wounds of anti-semitism.
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  • The scripture says how good and how
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  • Pleasant it is when brethren dwell together.
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  • You can be part of this historic movement
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  • Want to welcome in
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  • Rich barris big data poll, the people's pundit.
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  • Rich, thanks for racing back.
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  • I know you were out and about, and, you hustle back
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  • To make it for the show, so thank you, my friend.
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  • We also got jack posobiec human events daily host here.
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  • And let's do a follow up here.
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  • Rich, one of the things that we've kind of,
  • 00:11:39.856 --> 00:11:42.859
  • You know, probably stressed out a lot about over here,
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  • And we devoted a lot of our time
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  • At turning point action
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  • To getting out that low prop voter.
  • 00:11:48.331 --> 00:11:50.367
  • In this era of trump.
  • 00:11:50.367 --> 00:11:51.601
  • Trump has remade the the, the electorate in so many ways.
  • 00:11:51.601 --> 00:11:54.538
  • And, you know, what do we do?
  • 00:11:55.172 --> 00:11:57.240
  • Is it is it just a presidential election cycle
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  • That we seem to be so anemic about this turnout?
  • 00:12:00.377 --> 00:12:03.480
  • Or is it is it trump directly like i meaning
  • 00:12:03.480 --> 00:12:06.583
  • Are we going to see a reversal, in 2028?
  • 00:12:06.583 --> 00:12:09.753
  • Is that just the way we're kind of geared on this side now?
  • 00:12:09.753 --> 00:12:12.689
  • The truth is, we don't know the answer to that.
  • 00:12:12.689 --> 00:12:14.791
  • And that is why after the 2024 election,
  • 00:12:14.791 --> 00:12:18.461
  • What i really tried to convey, andrew, was that the
  • 00:12:18.461 --> 00:12:21.731
  • These voters that you guys were and it was really
  • 00:12:21.731 --> 00:12:25.735
  • Donald trump being at the top of the ticket,
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  • Provided a unique opportunity to help other groups
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  • Get these voters to the polls,
  • 00:12:30.207 --> 00:12:32.008
  • Because all of the research that we did clearly did say
  • 00:12:32.008 --> 00:12:35.011
  • Donald trump,
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  • If i'm going to go for anybody,
  • 00:12:36.213 --> 00:12:37.914
  • It's going to be donald trump.
  • 00:12:37.914 --> 00:12:39.950
  • So the number one goal the republican party
  • 00:12:39.950 --> 00:12:42.953
  • Should have had was courting these voters.
  • 00:12:42.953 --> 00:12:46.423
  • And i guess we're going to answer your question
  • 00:12:46.423 --> 00:12:49.359
  • Over the next couple of years.
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  • I mean,
  • 00:12:51.027 --> 00:12:51.828
  • You had to convince these voters
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  • That the republican party was becoming
  • 00:12:53.196 --> 00:12:54.898
  • More like donald trump and donald trump was not going
  • 00:12:54.898 --> 00:12:57.834
  • To revert back to the old republican party
  • 00:12:57.834 --> 00:13:00.604
  • Because they have no loyalties to the republican party.
  • 00:13:00.604 --> 00:13:03.473
  • It's just the truth.
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  • And a lot of people resisted this.
  • 00:13:04.641 --> 00:13:06.710
  • Just when you, you know, look at new jersey, for instance,
  • 00:13:06.710 --> 00:13:09.312
  • And i'm not here to criticize, i'm just saying what happened.
  • 00:13:09.312 --> 00:13:12.282
  • There were a lot of the minds around the president saying,
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  • You know what?
  • 00:13:14.951 --> 00:13:15.752
  • You know, we're
  • 00:13:15.752 --> 00:13:16.686
  • We're concerned that if you go there,
  • 00:13:16.686 --> 00:13:18.488
  • You're going to drive up democratic turnout,
  • 00:13:18.488 --> 00:13:20.557
  • Andrew, that that presents
  • 00:13:20.557 --> 00:13:23.059
  • A fundamental misunderstanding of the realignment.
  • 00:13:23.059 --> 00:13:25.962
  • Democrats are now the party of higher
  • 00:13:25.962 --> 00:13:28.331
  • Propensity turnout, educated voters more educated.
  • 00:13:28.331 --> 00:13:31.434
  • Or is charlie used to say credentialed?
  • 00:13:31.434 --> 00:13:33.270
  • Don't say educated rich.
  • 00:13:33.270 --> 00:13:34.404
  • They're credentialed. right.
  • 00:13:34.404 --> 00:13:36.006
  • And that's true.
  • 00:13:36.006 --> 00:13:37.507
  • But republican is don't seem to get this.
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  • If you're still saying things like,
  • 00:13:40.143 --> 00:13:41.912
  • I think it's dangerous
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  • To send donald trump to new jersey
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  • Because you could increase democratic turnout.
  • 00:13:44.514 --> 00:13:46.816
  • You don't understand
  • 00:13:46.816 --> 00:13:48.318
  • The republican coalition like fundamentally, period.
  • 00:13:48.318 --> 00:13:51.354
  • And i mean, we're ten years into this movement now,
  • 00:13:51.354 --> 00:13:53.657
  • And there are still some people who don't know this.
  • 00:13:53.657 --> 00:13:56.493
  • Donald trump has to be and i i'm sad to say this,
  • 00:13:56.493 --> 00:14:00.163
  • But donald trump has to be present like he was in 2018,
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  • To make sure that people get out to the polls
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  • Who vote for him and are not sold in the republican party.
  • 00:14:06.202 --> 00:14:09.139
  • And i know that's an unfair thing to ask him,
  • 00:14:09.139 --> 00:14:11.808
  • But it's just the state of the party.
  • 00:14:11.808 --> 00:14:13.543
  • I mean, republicans aren't ready yet.
  • 00:14:13.543 --> 00:14:15.545
  • They're not ready yet. i yeah. rich.
  • 00:14:15.545 --> 00:14:17.547
  • I mean, this is something. where.
  • 00:14:17.547 --> 00:14:19.783
  • And i'm just going to say it, right?
  • 00:14:19.783 --> 00:14:20.917
  • One of the differences between virginia and new jersey
  • 00:14:20.917 --> 00:14:24.321
  • At new jersey still has these blue collar democrats.
  • 00:14:24.321 --> 00:14:28.892
  • You got a lot of the ethnic whites, italian, irish, polish.
  • 00:14:28.892 --> 00:14:32.062
  • They will cross over to vote for donald trump.
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  • Virginia. yeah.
  • 00:14:34.731 --> 00:14:35.865
  • The the democrats are the white collar federal workers.
  • 00:14:35.865 --> 00:14:38.935
  • They're the ones supporting
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  • Jay jones and the no kings protests.
  • 00:14:39.903 --> 00:14:42.539
  • Yeah,
  • 00:14:42.772 --> 00:14:43.773
  • I see jack, because you get the realignment.
  • 00:14:43.773 --> 00:14:45.942
  • You know that.
  • 00:14:45.942 --> 00:14:47.877
  • So i get these people who say, but virginia,
  • 00:14:47.877 --> 00:14:50.580
  • You know, in new jersey, they voted pretty close
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  • On the presidential level on it's
  • 00:14:52.782 --> 00:14:54.517
  • Well, that's the every time you recite
  • 00:14:54.517 --> 00:14:58.054
  • An election that was a year ago or two years ago,
  • 00:14:58.054 --> 00:15:00.523
  • You're missing you're missing the moment.
  • 00:15:00.523 --> 00:15:03.226
  • All right. like trends continue, jack.
  • 00:15:03.226 --> 00:15:05.462
  • They don't
  • 00:15:05.462 --> 00:15:06.129
  • Just stop and freeze in time
  • 00:15:06.129 --> 00:15:07.597
  • And things don't occur in a vacuum.
  • 00:15:07.597 --> 00:15:09.666
  • And they don't stop at borders
  • 00:15:09.666 --> 00:15:10.800
  • I believe that republican voters,
  • 00:15:10.800 --> 00:15:12.669
  • Because just the huge amount of attention
  • 00:15:12.669 --> 00:15:16.239
  • From a media perspective, cultural perspective
  • 00:15:16.239 --> 00:15:18.875
  • On presidential races
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  • That that you do tend to we're going to we're
  • 00:15:21.044 --> 00:15:23.580
  • Even if we're the low prop party now, we're going to
  • 00:15:23.580 --> 00:15:25.415
  • We're going to narrow that that gap, that turnout gap
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  • For presidential, whether it's jd or whoever in 28, 20, 28.
  • 00:15:27.851 --> 00:15:31.688
  • And i will say this glass half full,
  • 00:15:31.688 --> 00:15:33.423
  • We're playing on their turf, new jersey, virginia,
  • 00:15:33.423 --> 00:15:36.159
  • New york city.
  • 00:15:36.159 --> 00:15:37.227
  • These are these are areas that we don't dominate.
  • 00:15:37.227 --> 00:15:38.895
  • We have to be honest about that.
  • 00:15:38.895 --> 00:15:39.996
  • And the fact
  • 00:15:39.996 --> 00:15:40.430
  • That we
  • 00:15:40.430 --> 00:15:41.531
  • Have them on their heels and we're playing offense,
  • 00:15:41.531 --> 00:15:43.033
  • I still i'm going to take that as, as, as positive.
  • 00:15:43.033 --> 00:15:46.002
  • Now we're not done.
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  • Where are the tears or
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  • From the pain of the life that she lived?
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  • She's a survivor of auschwitz.
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  • The years that they would just beat her
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  • I want to actually welcome to the show
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  • Jim jordan chair of the house judiciary committee.
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  • Congressman, it's an honor to have you.
  • 00:17:00.544 --> 00:17:03.481
  • And it's the first time we've had you back
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  • Since everything happened.
  • 00:17:05.816 --> 00:17:06.917
  • So, you know, please, you know, the floor is yours.
  • 00:17:06.917 --> 00:17:10.554
  • To remember, charlie is is is is it however you want?
  • 00:17:10.554 --> 00:17:14.125
  • Well, happy warrior fighting for the truth.
  • 00:17:15.025 --> 00:17:17.428
  • I don't know why.
  • 00:17:17.428 --> 00:17:18.929
  • I was doing an interview
  • 00:17:18.929 --> 00:17:19.964
  • Shortly after the tragic, taking of his life.
  • 00:17:19.964 --> 00:17:22.700
  • And i said in that interview, charlie lived that that second
  • 00:17:22.700 --> 00:17:26.604
  • Timothy four seven. fight the good fight.
  • 00:17:26.604 --> 00:17:28.405
  • Finish the course, keep the faith.
  • 00:17:28.405 --> 00:17:30.274
  • Paul tells that to the young guy, timothy.
  • 00:17:30.274 --> 00:17:32.109
  • And and charlie was a young guy.
  • 00:17:32.109 --> 00:17:33.878
  • Timothy who was who's lived that verse.
  • 00:17:33.878 --> 00:17:35.746
  • And he did it with a smile on his face.
  • 00:17:35.746 --> 00:17:37.481
  • He did it in a way where he conveyed the truth.
  • 00:17:37.481 --> 00:17:39.817
  • And, set the example that,
  • 00:17:39.817 --> 00:17:43.020
  • That, that i think we conservatives,
  • 00:17:43.020 --> 00:17:45.990
  • Republicans, just americans, everybody should follow.
  • 00:17:45.990 --> 00:17:50.728
  • So that that's what
  • 00:17:50.728 --> 00:17:53.097
  • I, my our daughter, i think i,
  • 00:17:53.097 --> 00:17:54.565
  • I don't know where i should,
  • 00:17:54.565 --> 00:17:55.299
  • As i may,
  • 00:17:55.299 --> 00:17:56.133
  • Was on doing a fox interview, but,
  • 00:17:56.133 --> 00:17:57.635
  • Our youngest daughter is
  • 00:17:57.635 --> 00:17:58.936
  • The same age as charlie, maybe a year older.
  • 00:17:58.936 --> 00:18:01.272
  • She sent me a text
  • 00:18:01.272 --> 00:18:02.406
  • The day that it happened, and, she said, this is,
  • 00:18:02.406 --> 00:18:05.643
  • This is tragic, certainly
  • 00:18:05.643 --> 00:18:08.078
  • For charlie's family, but also for our generation.
  • 00:18:08.078 --> 00:18:11.415
  • He was our limbaugh.
  • 00:18:11.415 --> 00:18:12.583
  • And i thought that that's a good way to say it.
  • 00:18:12.583 --> 00:18:14.485
  • That's maybe other people said the same thing.
  • 00:18:14.485 --> 00:18:16.954
  • But i know that that day when i got that text from jesse,
  • 00:18:16.954 --> 00:18:20.257
  • She actually lives overseas.
  • 00:18:20.257 --> 00:18:21.425
  • I thought i thought that was that was a good way to put it.
  • 00:18:21.425 --> 00:18:24.762
  • So he was a good man. we're in the middle
  • 00:18:24.762 --> 00:18:26.597
  • Of this shutdown right now, congressman.
  • 00:18:26.597 --> 00:18:28.732
  • You know, is there any hope of getting out of this?
  • 00:18:28.732 --> 00:18:31.468
  • What do you see?
  • 00:18:31.468 --> 00:18:32.603
  • On the on the horizon here because we've got not only
  • 00:18:32.603 --> 00:18:36.507
  • We got the whole debate about snap benefits,
  • 00:18:36.507 --> 00:18:38.909
  • It looks like the president's going to be forced,
  • 00:18:38.909 --> 00:18:40.644
  • By by, a judge's ruling to, to
  • 00:18:40.644 --> 00:18:44.281
  • To to pay out the snap benefits using, other funds.
  • 00:18:44.281 --> 00:18:48.085
  • We've also got air traffic controller situations.
  • 00:18:48.085 --> 00:18:50.554
  • We've got another, paycheck
  • 00:18:50.554 --> 00:18:52.489
  • For our military on november 15th.
  • 00:18:52.489 --> 00:18:54.325
  • What are we seeing? what are you hearing?
  • 00:18:54.325 --> 00:18:56.493
  • Well, it sounds like there's some movement in the senate
  • 00:18:56.493 --> 00:18:59.363
  • To actually get the government open again, which,
  • 00:18:59.363 --> 00:19:02.433
  • Of course, is is is needed.
  • 00:19:02.433 --> 00:19:03.834
  • So i think that could that could happen.
  • 00:19:03.834 --> 00:19:06.170
  • There's maybe a promise of some vote
  • 00:19:06.170 --> 00:19:07.605
  • On these obamacare, you know, subsidies, which, by the way,
  • 00:19:07.605 --> 00:19:12.142
  • The democrats made that the
  • 00:19:12.743 --> 00:19:14.178
  • Focus of their their ridiculous shutdown
  • 00:19:14.178 --> 00:19:16.380
  • Because remember, never forget the fact
  • 00:19:16.380 --> 00:19:18.215
  • Chuck schumer voted for this six months ago.
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  • The real debate is chuck schumer against chuck schumer.
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  • He voted for it six months ago.
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  • Encourage the senators to do so.
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  • Democrat senators do so.
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  • And now he won't because they say, oh, we gotta
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  • We gotta extend this expansion of obamacare and continue
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  • Subsidizing the insurance companies.
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  • And i always point out, remember,
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  • Everything they told us about obamacare was a lie.
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  • They said, if you like your plan,
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  • You can keep your plan.
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  • You like your doctor, keep your doctor.
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  • Premiums will go down.
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  • President obama even told us
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  • Premiums will go down on average $1,500.
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  • Well, none of that worked out.
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  • And it was so bad that they had to keep
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  • Subsidizing and expanding the subsidy.
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  • So now they want to continue that again.
  • 00:19:52.916 --> 00:19:54.685
  • And it, it just makes no sense.
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  • But the simplest way for it is for chuck schumer
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  • To just do what he did six months ago and vote for this.
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  • They're talking about
  • 00:20:01.525 --> 00:20:02.459
  • Giving them a vote on the subsidy issue.
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  • If they open the government,
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  • We'll we'll see how this, this all shakes out.
  • 00:20:05.996 --> 00:20:08.732
  • And then finally, the other thing i would just add,
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  • Because you mentioned this, this food stamp issue,
  • 00:20:10.267 --> 00:20:12.569
  • 42 million americans,
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  • Greatest country in history, 42 million americans.
  • 00:20:14.905 --> 00:20:17.508
  • Well, many of them aren't americans.
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  • They're here.
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  • They're some kind of, people here on the
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  • These are aren't citizens of our country,
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  • But 42 million people.
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  • That's larger than the entire population of canada.
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  • That's one eighth of our entire population, really?
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  • That many people
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  • In this great country, the greatest nation ever, need
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  • Help from the taxpayer just to get food.
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  • That's a problem in and of itself.
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  • Well, i think we need to address.
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  • And part of that, i think, is the work requirement.
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  • We put the big beautiful bill, which hopefully will start,
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  • Start helping, helping everybody.
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  • Yeah.
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  • No, i, i,
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  • We talked a lot about, food stamps on this show
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  • Because it's, there's, there's
  • 00:20:51.642 --> 00:20:52.776
  • A lot of fraud, there's a lot of abuse.
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  • And, yeah,
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  • A larger problem is that when
  • 00:20:56.814 --> 00:20:57.848
  • People get addicted to these programs,
  • 00:20:57.848 --> 00:20:59.283
  • You can't ever get them off. and.
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  • And that's not the way forward either. really quick here.
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  • Congressman, i want to address this.
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  • You have referred john brennan, former
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  • Cia director, to the doj for criminal prosecution.
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  • Two minutes left in this segment, congressman.
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  • Tell us what's going on here.
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  • You're not supposed to lie,
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  • But you're definitely not supposed to lie
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  • When you're under oath talking to congress.
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  • It looks like that's exactly what john brennan did.
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  • He told us in a deposition, in the last congress,
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  • He told us that he did not want the dossier,
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  • The crazy russian dossier we've all heard about.
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  • He didn't want it included
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  • In the intelligence community assessment.
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  • Pushed against having it in there.
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  • But then tulsi gabbard declassified a report
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  • From the house
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  • Intelligence committee from several years ago
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  • Where it says exactly the opposite in there.
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  • It says he actually wanted it
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  • In the intelligence community assessment.
  • 00:21:45.796 --> 00:21:48.165
  • And they relate a story where a cia official comes up to mr.
  • 00:21:48.165 --> 00:21:52.302
  • Brennan and says, director,
  • 00:21:52.302 --> 00:21:53.837
  • This this dossier doesn't hold up.
  • 00:21:53.837 --> 00:21:56.373
  • There's no underlying intelligence
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  • To support the claims of this foreigner,
  • 00:21:57.841 --> 00:21:59.510
  • Christopher steele, who wrote this thing.
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  • It doesn't doesn't work.
  • 00:22:01.011 --> 00:22:02.246
  • Brennan's response was, yeah, but doesn't it ring true?
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  • I think fully displaying his motivation about him
  • 00:22:07.050 --> 00:22:10.487
  • Wanting to get president trump and go after him
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  • And putting it in this intelligence
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  • Community assessment, which was the report
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  • That they changed between election
  • 00:22:16.760 --> 00:22:18.529
  • Day 2016 and inauguration day in january 2017.
  • 00:22:18.529 --> 00:22:22.132
  • So that's why we refer to him.
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  • You're not supposed to come in
  • 00:22:23.867 --> 00:22:25.202
  • And lie to congress when you're under oath.
  • 00:22:25.202 --> 00:22:26.937
  • It looks like that's what he did.
  • 00:22:26.937 --> 00:22:28.906
  • And when you couple with everything else we know
  • 00:22:28.906 --> 00:22:30.808
  • About what brennan and clapper and they all did right
  • 00:22:30.808 --> 00:22:34.378
  • When president trump was, was,
  • 00:22:34.378 --> 00:22:36.480
  • Going from winning the election
  • 00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:37.981
  • To being sworn in as the next president,
  • 00:22:37.981 --> 00:22:40.551
  • It's pretty darn bad.
  • 00:22:40.551 --> 00:22:41.819
  • And that's that's why we send it
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  • And we'll see what, see what the attorney general,
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  • The justice department do. well, isn't.
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  • Congressman, thank you for staying on that story.
  • 00:22:46.490 --> 00:22:48.091
  • I think i speak for the audience
  • 00:22:48.091 --> 00:22:49.726
  • When i say we want justice
  • 00:22:49.726 --> 00:22:51.295
  • And we want accountability when they talk
  • 00:22:51.295 --> 00:22:53.597
  • About the big lie, this was the real big lie.
  • 00:22:53.597 --> 00:22:56.133
  • This was the actual big lie.
  • 00:22:56.133 --> 00:22:58.035
  • And they tried to distract us from it.
  • 00:22:58.035 --> 00:22:59.570
  • They tried to take away president trump's first term.
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  • Because of this. we do not forget.
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  • We do not agree.
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  • We said, yeah, president trump fought through it.
  • 00:23:05.275 --> 00:23:07.311
  • He fought through it admirably.
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  • I don't know if anybody else could have done what he did,
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  • But he did, and we're grateful to him.
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  • Congressman, god bless you.
  • 00:23:13.951 --> 00:23:15.319
  • Thank you for coming on to, and honoring
  • 00:23:15.319 --> 00:23:17.054
  • Charlie the way that you did. and, stay on it.
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  • We'll, we'll have you back on again soon. thank you.
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  • After 738 days, the 20 living israeli hostages
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