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Charlie Kirk Today | Gary Melton: December 16, 2025 | Charlie Kirk Today | December 16, 2025
- Brought to you in part by the
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- International fellowship of christians and jews.
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- A lot of stuff went down this weekend.
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- But we got a lot of news to go over in the meantime.
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- And, you know, obviously, we had the bondi
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- Beach, terrorism, which is just horrendous.
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- We're going to get into that just in a second.
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- We had rob reiner was apparently stabbed
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- To death along with his wife, michelle,
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- Who, it appears that his their son
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- Nick, who's had mental problems and drug abuse problems,
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- Homelessness problems, he's he's now in custody.
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- And, of course, you know,
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- We have this brown shooting where it's we're hearing
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- Reports that a republican campus republican.
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- Well, she's dead. we know that.
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- And it's a really terrible story.
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- But there is also reports that she may have been targeted.
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- So let's get into all of these stories
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- Because we got to we got to go quick here.
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- Let's hit rob reiner, because i think you and i
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- Both have some, some opinions, feelings about that. yeah.
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- That broke last night.
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- Out of nowhere. very horrifying.
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- Just, you know, it began with that.
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- Police were at
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- Reiner's home in the los angeles area,
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- And they found two bodies there that matched their ages.
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- And then they were they were stabbed to death,
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- And it just
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- Sort of dribbled out over the course of the evening.
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- And it now appears the suspicion is that
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- Both rob and his wife,
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- Michelle, were stabbed to death by their son,
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- Who i believe had a history of, there's some addictions
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- And issues.
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- And so the i imagine we'll learn more
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- About how exactly that happened.
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- It's a pretty gruesome way to get there.
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- Very unthinkably terrible.
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- No one should suffer that way.
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- And it caused us to look back, and we saw things and
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- I mean, among other things.
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- Rob was on he went on the air shortly
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- After charlie was shot, and he actually said
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- Quite kind things.
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- Yeah, about him.
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- And he said about certain things about erica, too. yes.
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- Do we have that ready to go?
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- If not, we'll get it.
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- But the the point is, the
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- We need to look at that as a good example,
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- Right, of how to respond in these situations.
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- And unfortunately, you know, with charlie's death, gruesome.
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- Same.
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- And, you know, i instantly saw the parallels
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- And i felt terrible for this family.
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- I felt terrible for rob reiner, his wife, michelle.
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- And, you know, honestly,
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- I just my heart filled with compassion.
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- So instantly i went and i, i said as much on social media.
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- I think that tweet, has 2.1 million, engagements now.
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- A lot of people retweeted it and, yeah, my heart goes
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- Out to their family.
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- I have no idea
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- The details of what was going on with, their son nick.
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- Senseless tragedy, terrible to see.
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- And by the way, rob reiner's, movie career.
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- It should be.
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- The guy had incredible depth.
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- Yeah, he gave in to tds and trump derangement.
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- He was a left winger.
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- He was a left wing, actually.
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- He was quite a quite a sharp one.
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- He got really in on anti-russia militarism.
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- He said all the he believed all that.
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- You know, trump's doing treason.
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- Yeah. with russia stuff. let's like okay
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- It's cerebral palsy.
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- It's a free country. yeah.
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- It is a free country.
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- And he was allowed to believe what he want.
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- That doesn't
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- Mean it's okay for him to get stabbed to death by his son.
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- And it's disgusting if anyone is celebrating.
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- Yeah, i know it really is.
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- And, you know, guys like james wood, who's a conservative,
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- He came out and he said, you know,
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- That he had worked with rob,
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- And they were able to maintain their friendship
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- Even though they are on diametrically opposed,
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- Polar opposites of the political spectrum.
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- And, yeah, i mean, it's just, but here's some of his movies,
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- This is spinal tap, stand by me,
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- Princess bride, when harry met sally, a few good men.
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- I mean, this guy had range.
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- And say what you will about his politics.
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- The guy made some absolute classics of american cinema
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- In the 20th century. yeah.
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- And yeah, we should acknowledge was an elephant in the room.
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- President trump
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- Unfortunately posted on truth social this morning.
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- He said
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- A very sad thing happened last night in hollywood.
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- Rob reiner, a tortured and struggling
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- But once very talented movie director and comedy star,
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- Has passed away together with his wife michelle,
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- Reportedly due to the anger he caused others
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- Through his massive, unyielding and incurable affliction
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- With a mind crippling disease known as trump derangement
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- Syndrome, sometimes referred to as tds,
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- He was known to have driven people crazy
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- By his raging obsession with president donald j.
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- Trump, and he goes on for a bit longer.
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- I'll be frank, i think the president
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- Should delete that.
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- Yeah, i, i, i understand that sentiment.
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- He's getting a lot of blowback, actually.
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- Jake tapper
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- Quote, tweeted my tweet with trump's truth to contrast them.
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- I mean, listen, i wasn't tweeting what i tweeted.
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- You know, trying to make some large statement.
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- I just my heart went out to him.
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- What can i say?
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- So i do think it's fair, though, as soon as we have
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- This clip loaded.
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- 141 this is, rob reiner's reaction to, charlie.
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- You first heard about the murder of charlie kirk.
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- What was your immediate gut reaction to it?
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- Well, horror.
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- Absolute horror.
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- And i unfortunately
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- Saw the video of it, and, it,
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- It's in this it's beyond belief what happened to him.
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- And, that should never happen to anybody.
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- I don't care what your political beliefs are.
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- That's not acceptable.
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- That's not a solution, to, to solving problems.
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- And, i felt like what, his wife said at the,
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- The service at the memorial, they had was exactly right.
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- And totally i believe, you know, i'm jewish, but i,
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- I believe in the teachings of jesus, and,
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- I believe in do unto others, and i believe in forgiveness.
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- And what she said to me was,
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- Beautiful and absolutely, you know what?
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- She she forgave, his, his assassin.
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- And i think that that is, admirable.
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- Yeah.
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- And i mean, really,
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- That's the only correct response in this moment.
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- That is, that is the only correct
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- Response, especially in it's
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- Whenever anyone dies, but especially when it's
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- A heinous murder that no one deserves.
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- And, you know, there's a vast tragedy that goes into that.
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- And, he was, also well known as meat head on.
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- What was that?
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- All in the family, which that was such a big deal
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- In the 70s. and it's more forgotten today.
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- But he was great.
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- I actually went watch some of the clips last night,
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- And they were they were hilarious.
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- There was this.
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- Oh, he was the dad
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- And wolf of wall street, and i didn't realize that.
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- Anyways, rob reiner, i just think it's a total tragedy.
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- Yeah, his politics were awful.
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- I don't care right now. literally.
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- Do not care.
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- The wounds from
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- October 7th didn't fade when the headlines did.
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- Behind me rises
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- A new rehabilitation home for israel's wounded soldiers.
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- One of many urgent projects israel needs right now.
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- Entire communities shattered.
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- Families displaced.
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- And each day,
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- The impact of the need grows even more overwhelming.
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- But the bible says it clearly.
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- The righteous will live by faith and by faith.
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- The fellowship is rolling up our sleeves
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- And stepping into this immense challenge.
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- Helping mothers who don't know where to begin again.
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- Standing with paralyzed heroes.
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- Fighting to take their first steps.
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- Building centers of healing for the wounded
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- And the traumatized.
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- Bringing food and comfort to elderly israelis
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- Who have no one else to care for them.
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- To see the life saving work of the fellowship.
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- Unfolding across israel right now.
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- Visit ifc's dawg.
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- Visit ifc's dawg.
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- Here's a tweet from j.d.
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- Vance paying his respects to ella cook.
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- She was the vice president
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- Of the brown university college republicans.
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- He says this beautiful
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- Young girl was one of
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- The murdered students at brown university.
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- It takes a special courage to lead an organization
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- Of conservatives on a left wing campus on a far left campus.
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- You could say, and i'm very sorry,
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- Our country has lost one of its bright young stars.
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- Eternal rest grant unto her.
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- Oh, lord.
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- That's from, vice president j.d.
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- Vance. terrible tragedy.
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- Everything that i have seen about this young woman
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- Said that she was brave. she was kind.
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- She was helpful.
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- She would throw in and help, you know,
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- Lend a hand on anything going on on campus,
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- Especially with the college republicans.
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- So our heart goes out to ella cook and her family.
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- And, another terrible sort of tragedy over the weekend.
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- They do not have a suspect at this time.
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- They have not released video evidence.
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- There's some reporting that
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- That would suggest that she was targeted.
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- Blake.
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- So they had a suspect, person of interest.
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- They ended up releasing that. that person of interest,
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- Which is just like a whole grain.
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- I just it's unbelievable.
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- Cameras everywhere. yeah.
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- In modern society that you could shoot
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- That many people and get away and not have good leads.
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- About ten were shot, two were killed.
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- Unfortunately, ella is one of those who were killed.
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- And unfortunately, there was another shooting,
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- That happened obviously in bondi beach, australia,
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- 15 were killed as, some jewish celebrants
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- Were, enjoying a hanukkah celebration.
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- And it was right, right there on the beach.
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- It there's a whole bunch of crazy stuff with this.
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- I mean, it's everything about it is exactly what charlie
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- Warned about so often with bringing islam into the west.
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- So this was obviously of migrant origin,
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- And they targeted a jewish community.
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- And it was a father and son team.
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- They, they like,
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- Lived in $1 million house,
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- But they still just go for radical islam.
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- So they've thrived in this country that welcomed them.
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- And they decide to go and murder a bunch of jews.
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- And there they go.
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- They go raid the house.
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- And the mother, she's i saw an ad on gb news.
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- She was saying, you know, her son was a good boy.
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- He was a good boy.
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- He was a good boy. he was a boy. if you get dirty.
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- And he was not a good boy.
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- Deer seems not.
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- It was not a good boy.
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- He was actually a terrible monster.
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- It killed a bunch of innocent people.
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- It investigated and been investigated
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- Because he was apparently tied
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- To an islamic cell with the eye of isis,
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- And somehow he was not detained.
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- Apprehended? his family was allowed to get guns.
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- Like the whole thing reeks to high heaven here.
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- I don't know how anybody in the western world
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- Could be tied to an islamic, you know, isis cell
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- And first of all, be allowed to roam free.
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- Actually, they should have been deported immediately.
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- We should take heed in the united states.
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- Secondly, the fact that australia,
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- Which has extremely restrictive gun laws, the father
- 00:11:23.095 --> 00:11:27.399
- Apparently had six guns legally owned.
- 00:11:27.399 --> 00:11:30.870
- So the whole country cracks down on law
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- Abiding people have. yeah, yeah.
- 00:11:32.838 --> 00:11:34.240
- And yes, everything about
- 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:35.908
- This is just it's outrageous because this is australia.
- 00:11:35.908 --> 00:11:39.612
- Australia is this big, almost entirely
- 00:11:39.612 --> 00:11:42.515
- Empty continent filled with natural resources.
- 00:11:42.515 --> 00:11:45.284
- They get that they're settled by the english,
- 00:11:45.284 --> 00:11:47.953
- The greatest country creators in the world.
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- Yeah.
- 00:11:51.357 --> 00:11:52.158
- Australia has basically no reason
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- To have any problems whatsoever.
- 00:11:53.826 --> 00:11:56.428
- They could basically live.
- 00:11:56.428 --> 00:11:58.597
- You could all everyone could live like a king in australia.
- 00:11:58.597 --> 00:12:01.033
- And what they do is
- 00:12:01.033 --> 00:12:02.701
- Because they have this left wing brain virus, like,
- 00:12:02.701 --> 00:12:05.671
- Why do you need any islamic migration into australia?
- 00:12:05.671 --> 00:12:09.074
- What country has ever been made better by saying, yeah, let's
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- Bring in more islamic migration to the society?
- 00:12:12.878 --> 00:12:15.714
- Has it made england better? no.
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- Has it made germany better? no.
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- Yeah.
- 00:12:19.285 --> 00:12:19.819
- And there was this,
- 00:12:19.819 --> 00:12:20.786
- I mean, you got to give credit where it's due.
- 00:12:20.786 --> 00:12:22.955
- There was a, hero that ran in.
- 00:12:22.955 --> 00:12:26.292
- I believe we have that footage.
- 00:12:26.292 --> 00:12:27.960
- Grabbed the gun and basically subdued. it.
- 00:12:27.960 --> 00:12:31.163
- Looks like the father and ended up getting shot
- 00:12:31.163 --> 00:12:34.900
- A couple times in the arm by the son who was perched up
- 00:12:34.900 --> 00:12:37.336
- On the bridge.
- 00:12:37.336 --> 00:12:38.704
- So, his name was, i think i'll omid or something.
- 00:12:38.704 --> 00:12:43.042
- I'll omid.
- 00:12:43.042 --> 00:12:44.710
- So it's actually another muslim.
- 00:12:44.710 --> 00:12:46.278
- He's been called a traitor online by.
- 00:12:46.278 --> 00:12:48.180
- Oh, film muslims.
- 00:12:48.180 --> 00:12:49.114
- Oh, by the way,
- 00:12:49.114 --> 00:12:49.915
- There was already video of people
- 00:12:49.915 --> 00:12:51.150
- Celebrating in sydney, other muslims celebrating the attack.
- 00:12:51.150 --> 00:12:54.053
- It it's eerily similar to what happened on october 7th,
- 00:12:54.053 --> 00:12:57.156
- Where you know, jews get attacked and then,
- 00:12:57.156 --> 00:12:59.491
- You know, people, muslims around the world celebrate.
- 00:12:59.491 --> 00:13:02.194
- So pretty sick stuff.
- 00:13:02.194 --> 00:13:03.596
- And, you know,
- 00:13:03.596 --> 00:13:04.663
- I think we should play a cut from from, charlie here.
- 00:13:04.663 --> 00:13:08.067
- Yeah. 115.
- 00:13:08.367 --> 00:13:10.035
- We have just enough time.
- 00:13:10.035 --> 00:13:10.970
- 115 spiritual battle is coming to the west,
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- And the enemies are wokeism or marxism
- 00:13:14.240 --> 00:13:16.742
- Combining with islamism
- 00:13:16.742 --> 00:13:18.510
- To go after what we call the american way of life.
- 00:13:18.510 --> 00:13:21.780
- And the american way of life is very simple.
- 00:13:21.780 --> 00:13:23.983
- I want to be able to get married, buy a home, have kids,
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- Allow them to ride their bike till the sun goes down,
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- Send them to a good school, have a low crime neighborhood,
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- Not to have my kid be taught the lesbian gay
- 00:13:34.493 --> 00:13:37.329
- Transgender garbage in their school
- 00:13:37.329 --> 00:13:41.600
- While also.
- 00:13:41.934 --> 00:13:44.904
- While also not having them
- 00:13:44.904 --> 00:13:47.273
- Have to hear the muslim call to prayer five times a day.
- 00:13:47.273 --> 00:13:50.943
- That's important.
- 00:13:51.377 --> 00:13:54.046
- We want the american way of life,
- 00:13:54.046 --> 00:13:56.348
- Which is, by the way, christendom.
- 00:13:56.348 --> 00:13:58.651
- Such a great clip.
- 00:13:58.651 --> 00:13:59.985
- Gary melton joins us next.
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- That christmas morning.
- 00:14:06.225 --> 00:14:07.826
- Wise men brought gifts from outside the holy land.
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- But now that the war is over,
- 00:14:13.265 --> 00:14:16.268
- This holy land and her people
- 00:14:16.268 --> 00:14:18.170
- Are still carrying deep wounded.
- 00:14:18.170 --> 00:14:20.940
- Many of the elderly are alone and suffering
- 00:14:20.940 --> 00:14:24.610
- Like the wise men or wise women.
- 00:14:25.311 --> 00:14:28.547
- When you open your heart and give a special holiday food
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- Box to someone here in israel
- 00:14:33.218 --> 00:14:35.921
- This christmas chronicles season.
- 00:14:35.921 --> 00:14:38.991
- People like hannah who can't buy food.
- 00:14:38.991 --> 00:14:43.362
- That's where the fellowship is called to feed the hungry.
- 00:14:43.362 --> 00:14:47.599
- Please call, scan or go online now to help rush emergency
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- Food and healing to elderly jews
- 00:14:51.670 --> 00:14:53.772
- And their christian neighbors struggling
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- To rebuild their lives from the war.
- 00:14:55.541 --> 00:14:57.710
- What will happen when we make this holy day season?
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- Holy indeed.
- 00:15:03.282 --> 00:15:04.997
- Holy indeed.
- 00:15:04.997 --> 00:15:11.126
- Without further
- 00:15:11.493 --> 00:15:12.060
- Ado, gary milton, owner
- 00:15:12.060 --> 00:15:13.795
- And lead instructor of paramount tactical.
- 00:15:13.795 --> 00:15:15.764
- You can follow on x, which is how i discovered him.
- 00:15:15.764 --> 00:15:18.433
- He's been doing great work, just breaking down
- 00:15:18.433 --> 00:15:20.369
- All the dynamics of the case.
- 00:15:20.369 --> 00:15:22.170
- I think people's intrigue in the dynamics of the case
- 00:15:22.170 --> 00:15:24.740
- Is reaching an all time high, actually, because we
- 00:15:24.740 --> 00:15:27.409
- We first saw tyler robinson in court last week.
- 00:15:27.409 --> 00:15:31.013
- So, gary, welcome to the show.
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- It's an honor to have you.
- 00:15:32.314 --> 00:15:34.616
- Hi. thanks for having me i appreciate it.
- 00:15:34.616 --> 00:15:36.284
- So just a little bit on your background so people understand
- 00:15:36.284 --> 00:15:39.454
- Why you know so much about this topic.
- 00:15:39.454 --> 00:15:41.456
- Gary milton is a former u.s.
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- Army special forces green beret.
- 00:15:43.125 --> 00:15:45.293
- You, served as a weapons sergeant and sniper
- 00:15:45.293 --> 00:15:47.796
- Team leader, completing four combat tours.
- 00:15:47.796 --> 00:15:50.599
- Following your military service, gary,
- 00:15:50.599 --> 00:15:52.634
- You held a position of unit chief and special tactics
- 00:15:52.634 --> 00:15:55.370
- And structure for federal agency.
- 00:15:55.370 --> 00:15:57.339
- Today, gary is the owner and lead instructor
- 00:15:57.339 --> 00:15:59.841
- Of paramount tactical solutions,
- 00:15:59.841 --> 00:16:01.543
- A company
- 00:16:01.543 --> 00:16:02.744
- Dedicated to professional firearms and tactical training.
- 00:16:02.744 --> 00:16:05.013
- You work full time, doing that.
- 00:16:05.013 --> 00:16:07.315
- So, gary, you also have a great youtube
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- And you're a great twitter follower,
- 00:16:09.451 --> 00:16:11.019
- So you know, your stuff.
- 00:16:11.019 --> 00:16:12.754
- And i wanted to have you on because,
- 00:16:12.754 --> 00:16:15.390
- You know, i refused to go back to utah, like, anytime soon.
- 00:16:15.390 --> 00:16:18.693
- I'll just be honest. it's no offense.
- 00:16:18.693 --> 00:16:20.328
- I just can't bring myself to do it.
- 00:16:20.328 --> 00:16:22.397
- But you actually went to the campus,
- 00:16:22.397 --> 00:16:25.033
- And you retrace the steps of the alleged assassin.
- 00:16:25.033 --> 00:16:29.805
- We have to say that in a sort of journalistic sense.
- 00:16:29.805 --> 00:16:32.174
- Not in, in a any other way.
- 00:16:32.174 --> 00:16:34.543
- I believe he's the man who pulled the trigger.
- 00:16:34.543 --> 00:16:36.511
- Gary, tell us what you what you saw when you visited uvu.
- 00:16:36.511 --> 00:16:42.551
- Yeah.
- 00:16:42.784 --> 00:16:43.318
- So, you know, one of
- 00:16:43.318 --> 00:16:44.519
- The things that i wanted to do while i was there at the time,
- 00:16:44.519 --> 00:16:46.655
- There was a lot of different, you know, conspiracies.
- 00:16:46.655 --> 00:16:50.459
- We had the palm gun.
- 00:16:50.459 --> 00:16:51.526
- We had different shooters in different locations.
- 00:16:51.526 --> 00:16:53.962
- And what i thought was really important to do was go there.
- 00:16:53.962 --> 00:16:55.864
- Number one, talk to eyewitnesses.
- 00:16:55.864 --> 00:16:57.265
- I talked to multiple eyewitnesses while i was there.
- 00:16:57.265 --> 00:17:00.202
- You know that very, very similar stories.
- 00:17:00.202 --> 00:17:03.138
- The other thing that i did while i was there was actually
- 00:17:03.138 --> 00:17:05.140
- I actually flew a drone.
- 00:17:05.140 --> 00:17:07.042
- And what we did was a 3d map survey of the campus
- 00:17:07.042 --> 00:17:10.979
- And we have since built a 3d model of that
- 00:17:10.979 --> 00:17:13.782
- That's interactive.
- 00:17:13.782 --> 00:17:14.749
- People can download for free.
- 00:17:14.749 --> 00:17:16.418
- It's it's on my x account.
- 00:17:16.418 --> 00:17:18.220
- And that way people can kind of see
- 00:17:18.220 --> 00:17:21.656
- What is possible, what has lines of sight.
- 00:17:21.656 --> 00:17:23.825
- And i knew
- 00:17:23.825 --> 00:17:24.893
- Just from what people were saying
- 00:17:24.893 --> 00:17:26.294
- That some of these theories that they were putting out
- 00:17:26.294 --> 00:17:28.630
- Just weren't possible.
- 00:17:28.630 --> 00:17:29.464
- I knew there was no line of sight.
- 00:17:29.464 --> 00:17:31.166
- And then on top of that, i just wanted to get
- 00:17:31.166 --> 00:17:33.702
- Some hard ground truth and see what was going on.
- 00:17:33.702 --> 00:17:36.004
- And, you know, this this case was important to me.
- 00:17:36.004 --> 00:17:38.440
- You know, i was a big fan of charlie's so personal.
- 00:17:38.440 --> 00:17:41.543
- And i think, you know, if you're going to get to
- 00:17:41.543 --> 00:17:43.845
- The truth, you need to get there.
- 00:17:43.845 --> 00:17:45.080
- You need to talk to some people,
- 00:17:45.080 --> 00:17:46.281
- And you need to see the ground truth.
- 00:17:46.281 --> 00:17:48.583
- And, you know, that's kind of what we did.
- 00:17:48.583 --> 00:17:50.418
- Yeah.
- 00:17:50.418 --> 00:17:51.052
- And there's a video here.
- 00:17:51.052 --> 00:17:52.320
- Gary, i'm just going to set you,
- 00:17:52.320 --> 00:17:53.955
- Show it really quick so people can see how easy it
- 00:17:53.955 --> 00:17:57.459
- Ultimately was to get on this rooftop access point. 133
- 00:17:57.459 --> 00:18:00.896
- All right, folks, so here's the stairs
- 00:18:01.730 --> 00:18:04.499
- That go to the roof. wow.
- 00:18:04.499 --> 00:18:12.574
- This wall is about maybe three feet tall.
- 00:18:13.408 --> 00:18:16.545
- All right.
- 00:18:16.845 --> 00:18:17.746
- So right there is the shooting position.
- 00:18:17.746 --> 00:18:19.347
- It's about 200ft away from there.
- 00:18:19.347 --> 00:18:21.449
- You don't need to be spider man.
- 00:18:21.449 --> 00:18:22.751
- As a matter of fact, you don't even need arms.
- 00:18:22.751 --> 00:18:25.120
- You can literally get up there if you didn't have arms.
- 00:18:25.120 --> 00:18:28.356
- Wow. that's a good that's a good visual.
- 00:18:28.356 --> 00:18:30.192
- That's a good visual.
- 00:18:30.192 --> 00:18:31.760
- So just from your knowledge, across the spectrum
- 00:18:31.760 --> 00:18:36.264
- And your own visits, do you feel there's any
- 00:18:36.264 --> 00:18:39.568
- Misconceptions that you're seeing repeated
- 00:18:39.568 --> 00:18:41.603
- Over and over and over again that have spread really far
- 00:18:41.603 --> 00:18:45.140
- That, in your opinion, are pretty easily
- 00:18:45.140 --> 00:18:48.443
- Debunked or opposed?
- 00:18:48.443 --> 00:18:51.346
- Yeah.
- 00:18:51.346 --> 00:18:51.713
- You know,
- 00:18:51.713 --> 00:18:52.881
- There's been a cycle of people taking very normal things,
- 00:18:52.881 --> 00:18:55.784
- Or maybe even slightly abnormal
- 00:18:55.784 --> 00:18:58.453
- And then turning them into suspicious items.
- 00:18:58.453 --> 00:19:01.256
- Right.
- 00:19:01.256 --> 00:19:01.756
- One of the things that
- 00:19:01.756 --> 00:19:02.424
- Really struck me on the ground
- 00:19:02.424 --> 00:19:03.458
- There was exactly how easy this entire thing was.
- 00:19:03.458 --> 00:19:06.461
- You know, before i went there,
- 00:19:06.461 --> 00:19:08.630
- One of the things that was being portrayed
- 00:19:08.630 --> 00:19:09.998
- Was like, this was, you know, some big conspiracy.
- 00:19:09.998 --> 00:19:12.667
- It's very complex. you need professional hitmen.
- 00:19:12.667 --> 00:19:15.136
- It's 140 yards.
- 00:19:15.136 --> 00:19:16.304
- It's so far all these things.
- 00:19:16.304 --> 00:19:18.106
- Now, i knew
- 00:19:18.106 --> 00:19:19.274
- The distances was nothing, especially for a scoped rifle.
- 00:19:19.274 --> 00:19:22.644
- I mean, that is, you know, my my eight year old son
- 00:19:22.644 --> 00:19:25.313
- Was going to courses with a shooting 1200 yards.
- 00:19:25.313 --> 00:19:28.083
- It's not hard.
- 00:19:28.416 --> 00:19:29.784
- And then once you see the layout of the campus,
- 00:19:29.784 --> 00:19:32.320
- You know, looking at it from a security standpoint,
- 00:19:32.320 --> 00:19:34.789
- Unfortunately it was a real challenge.
- 00:19:34.789 --> 00:19:37.359
- Look, i don't want
- 00:19:37.792 --> 00:19:38.793
- To be lied to the by the government,
- 00:19:38.793 --> 00:19:40.595
- But i don't want to be lied to by the internet, either.
- 00:19:40.595 --> 00:19:42.597
- And i think it's really important for us
- 00:19:42.597 --> 00:19:43.965
- To make sure that we're pushing the truth.
- 00:19:43.965 --> 00:19:46.534
- And people are being honest about this.
- 00:19:46.534 --> 00:19:48.737
- And, you know, i think that's
- 00:19:48.737 --> 00:19:49.938
- One of the biggest problems is, is the omission, you know,
- 00:19:49.938 --> 00:19:53.441
- A lot of people
- 00:19:53.441 --> 00:19:54.476
- Pushing these different conspiracy theories and,
- 00:19:54.476 --> 00:19:57.345
- And exploiting charlie's death for their own means,
- 00:19:57.345 --> 00:20:00.115
- They're not telling you
- 00:20:00.615 --> 00:20:01.750
- This information, like, why haven't these people gone
- 00:20:01.750 --> 00:20:03.752
- To this location and looked at this?
- 00:20:03.752 --> 00:20:05.120
- Why aren't they showing people
- 00:20:05.120 --> 00:20:07.055
- How easy it is to actually access the roof?
- 00:20:07.055 --> 00:20:09.791
- And if people saw what i saw,
- 00:20:09.791 --> 00:20:12.160
- A lot of this stuff would make a lot more sense to them.
- 00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:15.397
- And they wouldn't believe a lot of these other
- 00:20:15.397 --> 00:20:19.167
- Artificial narratives that people are pushing.
- 00:20:19.167 --> 00:20:21.269
- Question, from a listener, jess.
- 00:20:21.269 --> 00:20:24.406
- They ask, why didn't
- 00:20:24.406 --> 00:20:27.142
- The dude have a gun when he was jumping off the roof?
- 00:20:27.142 --> 00:20:29.844
- Plus, was him
- 00:20:29.844 --> 00:20:30.945
- Putting it together or taking it apart
- 00:20:30.945 --> 00:20:33.048
- With those little tools
- 00:20:33.048 --> 00:20:34.649
- And being able to do it so quickly, was that plausible?
- 00:20:34.649 --> 00:20:37.152
- Especially on the second one.
- 00:20:37.152 --> 00:20:38.486
- I'd have to refresh myself on the first.
- 00:20:38.486 --> 00:20:40.155
- My belief is did he have it?
- 00:20:40.155 --> 00:20:42.724
- He was doing this to carry his pant leg.
- 00:20:42.724 --> 00:20:45.193
- He was walking
- 00:20:45.193 --> 00:20:45.894
- With a weird gait on the video,
- 00:20:45.894 --> 00:20:47.495
- And we actually have some images of this gear
- 00:20:47.495 --> 00:20:49.397
- If you want to start.
- 00:20:49.397 --> 00:20:50.265
- Yeah, but if you have thoughts on the
- 00:20:50.265 --> 00:20:52.067
- On the assembly question specifically because. yeah.
- 00:20:52.067 --> 00:20:54.703
- So unfortunately what we had was we had,
- 00:20:54.703 --> 00:20:58.173
- The governor of utah make kind of a silly statement.
- 00:20:58.173 --> 00:21:01.276
- And he said when he was after the
- 00:21:01.276 --> 00:21:04.512
- After he took the shot, he disassembled it.
- 00:21:04.512 --> 00:21:07.349
- That is not true.
- 00:21:07.349 --> 00:21:08.350
- And he actually does
- 00:21:08.350 --> 00:21:09.417
- Have the rifle when he jumps off of the building.
- 00:21:09.417 --> 00:21:12.053
- And you can actually see it in several shots.
- 00:21:12.053 --> 00:21:14.589
- The problem is we have a really crappy video
- 00:21:14.589 --> 00:21:17.826
- That has been cropped way in,
- 00:21:17.826 --> 00:21:19.594
- But if you actually look
- 00:21:19.594 --> 00:21:20.495
- And look at it, there are many times
- 00:21:20.495 --> 00:21:22.330
- Where you can see what is clearly a rifle.
- 00:21:22.330 --> 00:21:24.766
- Now, as far as a assembly, what we believe
- 00:21:24.766 --> 00:21:29.003
- Is that he actually had the barreled action
- 00:21:29.003 --> 00:21:32.173
- Separated from the stock.
- 00:21:32.173 --> 00:21:34.175
- And when when he was walking around
- 00:21:34.175 --> 00:21:36.111
- With that barreled action down his leg.
- 00:21:36.111 --> 00:21:37.846
- So that's just the action of the barrel,
- 00:21:37.846 --> 00:21:39.647
- The part that holds it all together.
- 00:21:39.647 --> 00:21:41.216
- Well, not really
- 00:21:41.216 --> 00:21:42.016
- The part that holds all together,
- 00:21:42.016 --> 00:21:43.118
- But the stock, the part that we is separate from it.
- 00:21:43.118 --> 00:21:45.420
- So he can make it more compact
- 00:21:45.420 --> 00:21:46.788
- And carry it to the shooting location.
- 00:21:46.788 --> 00:21:48.890
- Here's some great examples of pictures that i pulled,
- 00:21:48.890 --> 00:21:51.693
- Where you can actually see that he clearly
- 00:21:51.693 --> 00:21:54.929
- Has something much longer.
- 00:21:54.929 --> 00:21:56.064
- The problem is, is that this video footage is so poor.
- 00:21:56.064 --> 00:22:00.368
- And then on top of that, it's zoom.
- 00:22:00.368 --> 00:22:01.703
- So it's, you know, it's cropped so far in that it is very
- 00:22:01.703 --> 00:22:05.407
- Difficult to see this.
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- And i understand why people are confused by that.
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- But all it takes is two screws to put the
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- The action of the barrel action back onto the stock itself.
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- And it's not going to affect accuracy or anything like that.
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- It would take less than a minute.
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- And it's not that complicated, not that hard.
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- But people have tried to over complicate it.
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- Yeah. this was fantastic.
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- Gary, we're going to have you on again soon.
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- Gary milton, paramount tactical.
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- Thank you.
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- As this year draws to an end,
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- I'd like to express my
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- Heartfelt gratitude to our partners, the fellowship
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- Of christians and jews.
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- And i'd like to say thank you to our audience
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- Who have supported them in prayer, with finances
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- And standing strong for the people of israel.
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- The fellowship is one of america's
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- Most beloved
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- Organizations, spanning more than 40 years of ministry,
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- Providing tangible help
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- And comfort to the people of israel
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- In the ukraine and across the former soviet union.
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- This holiday season and every day of the year,
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- The fellowship is called to serve
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- The elderly jewish people,
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- Many of whom are holocaust survivors who are now
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- Living in the shadow of past wars, poverty and loneliness.
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- During this christmas time, join me and fulfill
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- The prophet isaiah as cry to comfort.
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- Comfort my people, says your god.
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- To find out how. visit ifg.
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- Org. that's if c.j. dawg.
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