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  • Brought to you in part by the
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  • International fellowship of christians and jews.
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  • Andrew corbett, joined by blake neff
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  • And tyler boyer, ceo of turning point action.
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  • There was one bright spot.
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  • There was a there was a.
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  • Okay, listen,
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  • There was actually a few, maybe bright spots,
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  • One extraordinarily bright spot.
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  • And that was here in mesa, arizona.
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  • And the turning point action team led the charge on that.
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  • The grass roots rose up and and ousted in a
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  • In a really difficult scenario.
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  • Pillsbury who was the republicans
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  • For kamala leader in the state of arizona.
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  • So tyler boyer, why don't you tell us, the back story there?
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  • Yeah.
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  • I mean, this is this is covered by the new york times.
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  • I'm dropping in the chat
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  • If we want to throw it at politico.
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  • Brought this up.
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  • This is a huge race.
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  • Essentially what happened was,
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  • The face of republicans for kamala.
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  • So you want to talk about soros type, funded ventures.
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  • You had this entire mind,
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  • F whatever you want to call it,
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  • That happened in 2020 or 2024,
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  • Where they funded these fake republicans for biden
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  • And then republic and later became republicans for harris,
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  • Or conservatives for harris and all the key swing states.
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  • So the face of this organization in many ways
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  • Was the mayor of mesa, arizona.
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  • His name is john giles.
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  • He got termed out and so was done this last year.
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  • And his former vice mayor, julie pillsbury,
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  • Who both were lds, both were mormon,
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  • And they were running the as the face of this
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  • National operation that was abandoned.
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  • Trump if you're a republican and vote against him in 2024,
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  • So what are the lessons here from this local race
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  • That we can extrapolate to the national scene?
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  • So this is the heart of the i mean, these types of, of,
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  • Psyops some people call them these type of,
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  • These type of things that happen with
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  • The politics are at the heart of how
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  • They control the narrative around these elections.
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  • So we ran, but we didn't run it.
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  • The grassroots ran it.
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  • We supported it fully.
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  • Was removing this person from office to recall or remove
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  • Someone from office is
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  • One of the most difficult things
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  • That you can do with in politics.
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  • But this is so important to do
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  • When people try to run these type of operations.
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  • And it was hard work.
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  • You have to go out, recruit all of the people to do it.
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  • You have to
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  • Collect the petitions and then ultimately win the election.
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  • This lady last year, the significance of this
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  • In arizona, arizona,
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  • This is one of the biggest cities in america.
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  • It's like top 35 cities.
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  • This is a actually maricopa
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  • Is like the fifth largest metro area of all in
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  • Not i know not mesa specifically,
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  • But people need to understand how big this.
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  • It's the fourth largest
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  • Metropolitan area in the country
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  • And it's and the phoenix metro area.
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  • So phoenix mesa is usually how it's referred to
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  • Is the most conservative out of the big metro area.
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  • So this is like
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  • Target number one for the democrats to topple.
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  • The democrats won a term.
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  • Maricopa county blew
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  • For obvious reasons that we all know, all the,
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  • Hankie panky that's gone on with elections
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  • And everything else that's getting somewhat corrected.
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  • Not fully as much as we'd like, but getting in there.
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  • This is the target prime.
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  • Target number one.
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  • And so this is why they choose people
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  • Like this to lead the face of these type of operations.
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  • And this is why it's so important
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  • To remove these people
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  • From office because it's part of it.
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  • They were recruit a mormon to do this too.
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  • So i just want to like
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  • I want to crystallize this for everybody.
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  • This is a recall election where it's an r versus an r.
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  • That's the toughest type of election
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  • To educate a population that's kind of checked out.
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  • It's an off cycle, off year election, you see.
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  • Which are am i choosing. right.
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  • And so you have to
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  • Then do the grassroots
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  • Work, the doorknocking in order to get this over the top.
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  • And because one one this is how they do it, right.
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  • So one is like a fraudulent republican
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  • That's that has the backing
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  • Of all the democrats, a republican for kamala.
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  • Yeah.
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  • It's all the backing of all the democrat party.
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  • So basically,
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  • To win this election, you have to overcome the establishment.
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  • Some people refer it to as the unit party.
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  • And then you have to also tackle the democrat party.
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  • Yeah.
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  • So they're not going to run a democrat
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  • In this district because it's so conservative.
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  • So they're they're
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  • They're putting a wolf in sheep's clothing
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  • To come and do this in a place like mesa.
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  • Yeah. and because they're trying to flip mesa. right.
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  • Like over time they want to make mesa blue.
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  • And so they've, they've
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  • They've been fairly successful at this in years past.
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  • And, you're basically even in a place where it's
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  • 60% republican, that's, that's like this district,
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  • This district's like 50, 55, 60% republican.
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  • But again, it's like 30 plus
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  • Percent, 40% democrat.
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  • You have to again win.
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  • Basically, all the republicans educate
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  • All the republicans to vote against their.
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  • So so yesterday
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  • That was the huge bright spot was this leader.
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  • This was a national leader in a swing state,
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  • A national leftist leader in his swing.
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  • So let me just back that up.
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  • There was axios, there was politico,
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  • There was new york times.
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  • They were all out here on a on a city council race
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  • Well, you have to look at how they react.
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  • Politico has a headline a few days ago.
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  • This is like the first test of turning point as an actual.
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  • Yeah, they want to know muscle in politics.
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  • You you have to blink in order to to flip the state
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  • Because if it where as phoenix goes, the phoenix metropolitan
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  • Area goes, arizona goes as arizona goes,
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  • Statistically the presidency goes. yeah.
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  • And also when people don't realize this is that
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  • These things are so critical because if you lose them,
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  • It gives it emboldens the left to spend millions more dollars
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  • In your swing state to win the next big election.
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  • Today the democrats woke up going, wow, they mean business.
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  • Maybe we should
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  • Invest the millions
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  • More dollars into that state next election cycle
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  • Because it's not worth it. we need to come up
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  • With a different strategy to win in 2028.
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  • That is exactly what we want them to do.
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  • Well, if you run the models there, it's like, what is it
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  • Like 70% of the democrat models to win a nationwide
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  • Presidential race go through arizona?
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  • That's right.
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  • So if you break the backs of the democrat party
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  • In this state,
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  • You demoralize them and you let them know,
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  • Like, hey, there's a new sheriff in town.
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  • We're not going to be messed with, and we're going to pour
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  • A ton of resources and manpower to the state.
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  • Well, guess what?
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  • Their models get a lot trickier, a lot more difficult.
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  • And so that's why we're we're
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  • We are not going anywhere in the state of arizona
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  • Is matter of fact,
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  • Tyler, it's safe to say we are doubling tripling down,
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  • In the future. yes, sir.
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  • That's right.
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  • And we have, more on this.
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  • I think we should share some of these videos
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  • After we come out of the break here.
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  • Yeah, well, it's going to be pretty great.
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  • Yeah, we could do, let's go to 9290 real quick.
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  • Yeah.
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  • Look, i people are always saying that they wish
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  • They had better candidates that would run for office.
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  • I don't think that's true.
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  • Because when good people run
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  • For office, just because i want to serve my community.
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  • And then this is what happens to me.
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  • Why would anyone want to run
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  • When you have groups like turning point
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  • That can go out there and put up thousands of signs?
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  • Too bad, so sad.
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  • We'll be right back.
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  • In genesis
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  • 12 three, god made a powerful promise
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  • To abraham, the father of the jewish people.
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  • I will bless those who bless you.
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  • The christian bible tells us that we have been grafted
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  • Into god's family tree, the rich olive tree of israel.
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  • The very foundations of the christian faith,
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  • The bible and jesus, whom christians call
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  • The messiah, are deeply rooted in israel.
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  • Supporting israel aligns christians with god's
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  • Prophetic timeline.
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  • It demonstrates our willingness to be instruments of
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  • God's blessing, uplifting his chosen people,
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  • And it calls us to confront and heal
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  • The centuries old wounds of anti-semitism.
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  • The scripture says how good and how
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  • Pleasant it is when brethren dwell together.
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  • You can be part of this historic movement
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  • Of bringing light to our world.
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  • Learn more by going to ifc.
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  • J.org today.
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  • J.org today.
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  • Andrew corbett,
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  • Executive producer of this fine show,
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  • Joined by pastor greg laurie pastor, you are
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  • One of the most i'm going to say you're going to
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  • You don't have to sit, but
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  • You're one of the most famous evangelists in the country.
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  • You do.
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  • You harvest
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  • Crusades in angel stadium all over the country as well.
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  • Thousands and thousands of people
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  • Come to faith in jesus christ.
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  • You know, you knew charlie.
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  • You you came to our events.
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  • You've you've been supportive.
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  • You you do things the right way.
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  • You have a long history
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  • And a really thriving church in southern california.
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  • Multiple campuses.
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  • I've known you for years.
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  • I just want you to help make sense of this moment.
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  • You know, a lot of people talk about revival.
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  • We've seen revival.
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  • We've also seen opposition.
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  • The floor is yours.
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  • I mean, help us put eyes to this.
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  • Well,
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  • I'm reminded of that first line of a tale of two cities.
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  • It was the best of times. it was a worst of times. you know,
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  • Both things can happen simultaneously.
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  • And these are dark times, but they're very bright times.
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  • And there are signs of revival.
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  • And i don't say that lightly, because i was around
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  • For the last great spiritual awakening, the jesus movement.
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  • You know, i didn't realize it at the time, andrew,
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  • But i had a front row seat to an actual spiritual awakening,
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  • The last great awakening in, of all places in california.
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  • And so, you know, looking back
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  • People say, do you think we're having
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  • Another jesus revolution?
  • 00:10:07.709 --> 00:10:09.177
  • I said, well, i see promising signs.
  • 00:10:09.177 --> 00:10:11.512
  • But now, looking at the last just few months,
  • 00:10:11.512 --> 00:10:13.815
  • I would say i see more than promising signs.
  • 00:10:13.815 --> 00:10:16.117
  • I see things happening
  • 00:10:16.117 --> 00:10:17.752
  • That have not happened for a long time,
  • 00:10:17.752 --> 00:10:20.388
  • And things that have never happened at all.
  • 00:10:20.388 --> 00:10:22.256
  • Take baptisms, for instance.
  • 00:10:22.256 --> 00:10:24.225
  • You know, back in the heyday of the jesus movement,
  • 00:10:24.225 --> 00:10:26.894
  • We would go to a little spot
  • 00:10:26.894 --> 00:10:28.129
  • Called pirates cove and baptize a lot of people.
  • 00:10:28.129 --> 00:10:31.032
  • But in the last just few years, we've seen over
  • 00:10:31.032 --> 00:10:34.402
  • 20,000 people baptized at that same spot.
  • 00:10:34.402 --> 00:10:37.939
  • The movie had a little cause, an effect.
  • 00:10:37.939 --> 00:10:39.907
  • It was sort of like a case of,
  • 00:10:39.907 --> 00:10:41.676
  • You know, they see a movie or whatever.
  • 00:10:41.676 --> 00:10:43.611
  • Art imitates life.
  • 00:10:43.611 --> 00:10:44.712
  • In this case, life is imitating art, imitating life.
  • 00:10:44.712 --> 00:10:47.715
  • People said, oh, i want to be baptized in that spot.
  • 00:10:47.715 --> 00:10:50.051
  • But this is a phenomenon.
  • 00:10:50.051 --> 00:10:52.019
  • And of course, since charlie was killed in
  • 00:10:52.019 --> 00:10:56.224
  • I hate to say that, but, you know,
  • 00:10:56.224 --> 00:10:57.759
  • We have to say this, and i think
  • 00:10:57.759 --> 00:10:59.427
  • It's more than just saying he died.
  • 00:10:59.427 --> 00:11:01.329
  • He was murdered.
  • 00:11:01.329 --> 00:11:02.196
  • And we all know that.
  • 00:11:02.196 --> 00:11:03.798
  • But, and i'm, you know, i'm humbled and honored
  • 00:11:03.798 --> 00:11:06.567
  • To be in the studio where he would sit in the seat
  • 00:11:06.567 --> 00:11:09.036
  • Right next to me and and do what he did so well.
  • 00:11:09.036 --> 00:11:12.940
  • But, but it's like rocket fuel has been poured
  • 00:11:12.940 --> 00:11:16.144
  • On a preexisting fire, and i see it intensifying.
  • 00:11:16.144 --> 00:11:19.747
  • In fact, wall street journal, you probably saw this article,
  • 00:11:19.747 --> 00:11:22.784
  • Even commented on the upsurge of bible sales.
  • 00:11:22.784 --> 00:11:25.920
  • And they directly attribute this to to charlie's death.
  • 00:11:25.920 --> 00:11:29.490
  • And so,
  • 00:11:29.490 --> 00:11:30.258
  • You know, andrew,
  • 00:11:30.258 --> 00:11:31.459
  • You may remember that our son christopher died
  • 00:11:31.459 --> 00:11:34.228
  • In an automobile accident 16 years ago.
  • 00:11:34.228 --> 00:11:37.698
  • And so i
  • 00:11:37.965 --> 00:11:39.066
  • Think when something tragic happens to christians
  • 00:11:39.066 --> 00:11:41.335
  • Like that, we try to like, why why did god let this happen?
  • 00:11:41.335 --> 00:11:46.207
  • And sometimes some christians, well-meaning
  • 00:11:46.207 --> 00:11:48.876
  • But i think misdirected, will try to find cause
  • 00:11:48.876 --> 00:11:51.078
  • And in fact like this happened.
  • 00:11:51.078 --> 00:11:52.480
  • So this other thing will happen.
  • 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:54.182
  • I think we need to separate them.
  • 00:11:54.182 --> 00:11:55.817
  • Then look at them together.
  • 00:11:55.817 --> 00:11:57.785
  • Charlie, being killed was a horrible tragedy.
  • 00:11:57.785 --> 00:12:01.722
  • The end.
  • 00:12:01.989 --> 00:12:03.324
  • But despite a horrible tragedy, god is doing a mighty work.
  • 00:12:03.324 --> 00:12:07.195
  • And we could look at stephen, which is a direct parallel.
  • 00:12:07.195 --> 00:12:10.198
  • The death of stephen was a tragedy and to the point
  • 00:12:10.198 --> 00:12:13.267
  • We even read that godly men mourned over him, you know.
  • 00:12:13.267 --> 00:12:17.271
  • So it was it was a tragedy for the church.
  • 00:12:17.271 --> 00:12:19.774
  • Yet the gospel went out with greater power
  • 00:12:19.774 --> 00:12:23.477
  • After the death of stephen,
  • 00:12:23.477 --> 00:12:25.012
  • Because the church finally got the memo.
  • 00:12:25.012 --> 00:12:26.948
  • Oh, yeah.
  • 00:12:26.948 --> 00:12:27.548
  • We're not supposed
  • 00:12:27.548 --> 00:12:28.583
  • To hang around in jerusalem in a holy huddle.
  • 00:12:28.583 --> 00:12:31.285
  • We're supposed to spread
  • 00:12:31.285 --> 00:12:32.420
  • Across the world and preach the gospel.
  • 00:12:32.420 --> 00:12:34.622
  • And that's what happened after stephen's death.
  • 00:12:34.622 --> 00:12:37.325
  • So we can see a horrible tragedy that god is using.
  • 00:12:37.325 --> 00:12:40.928
  • Not long before charlie was killed,
  • 00:12:40.928 --> 00:12:43.931
  • He was asked, what is your favorite bible passage?
  • 00:12:43.931 --> 00:12:46.868
  • And you remember it's romans 828.
  • 00:12:46.868 --> 00:12:49.003
  • God cannot
  • 00:12:49.003 --> 00:12:49.837
  • Can cause all things to work together
  • 00:12:49.837 --> 00:12:51.639
  • For good to those that love god.
  • 00:12:51.639 --> 00:12:53.608
  • And as joseph said to his brothers who betrayed him,
  • 00:12:53.608 --> 00:12:56.744
  • You meant for evil, but god meant it for good.
  • 00:12:56.744 --> 00:12:59.013
  • So we see god working despite the tragedy.
  • 00:12:59.013 --> 00:13:02.717
  • And i like to make that distinction.
  • 00:13:02.717 --> 00:13:04.151
  • Despite the tragedy and do it.
  • 00:13:04.151 --> 00:13:06.721
  • And i'm thinking, if i'm charlie in heaven,
  • 00:13:06.721 --> 00:13:09.290
  • I would rejoice
  • 00:13:09.290 --> 00:13:11.058
  • Knowing that this was happening after i was called home
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  • To glory.
  • 00:13:13.928 --> 00:13:14.896
  • You know, and and so i think that's probably
  • 00:13:14.896 --> 00:13:17.865
  • The greatest tribute that, that, you know, this is a man
  • 00:13:17.865 --> 00:13:21.302
  • That lived a godly life,
  • 00:13:21.302 --> 00:13:22.536
  • A life of integrity, a life of passion,
  • 00:13:22.536 --> 00:13:25.406
  • A life of purpose,
  • 00:13:25.406 --> 00:13:27.074
  • And and a lot of people who never even heard his name
  • 00:13:27.074 --> 00:13:29.810
  • Before are now going, who is this guy?
  • 00:13:29.810 --> 00:13:31.979
  • And what did he actually believe?
  • 00:13:31.979 --> 00:13:33.347
  • And they're not believing the caricature
  • 00:13:33.347 --> 00:13:35.383
  • Of charlie presented by people that hate him
  • 00:13:35.383 --> 00:13:37.985
  • And hate what he stands for.
  • 00:13:37.985 --> 00:13:39.453
  • But they're
  • 00:13:39.453 --> 00:13:40.354
  • Checking out his own videos and seeing
  • 00:13:40.354 --> 00:13:42.156
  • He was actually very civil, very patient.
  • 00:13:42.156 --> 00:13:44.692
  • People would insult him to his face
  • 00:13:44.692 --> 00:13:46.894
  • And he would just listen,
  • 00:13:46.894 --> 00:13:48.396
  • And then he would patiently respond.
  • 00:13:48.396 --> 00:13:51.399
  • And, you know, so they're seen what
  • 00:13:51.399 --> 00:13:52.800
  • This guy really stood for.
  • 00:13:52.800 --> 00:13:54.602
  • And so i think that we are seeing revival,
  • 00:13:54.602 --> 00:13:58.005
  • Like things happen right now.
  • 00:13:58.005 --> 00:14:00.207
  • And there's no question that charlie's death
  • 00:14:00.207 --> 00:14:03.577
  • Has had an effect on this.
  • 00:14:03.577 --> 00:14:06.047
  • There's a lot of blessings right now.
  • 00:14:06.047 --> 00:14:08.849
  • There's a lot of, momentum.
  • 00:14:08.849 --> 00:14:11.085
  • But then you see these distractions
  • 00:14:11.085 --> 00:14:13.220
  • And you see, you know, people, all they want to talk about is
  • 00:14:13.220 --> 00:14:16.524
  • They want to talk about israel.
  • 00:14:16.524 --> 00:14:17.625
  • They want to talk about foreign policy.
  • 00:14:17.625 --> 00:14:19.226
  • There's this infighting
  • 00:14:19.226 --> 00:14:20.428
  • That you're seeing within the within the church,
  • 00:14:20.428 --> 00:14:23.464
  • Within the conservative movement.
  • 00:14:23.464 --> 00:14:24.665
  • And, you know, i couldn't help but think about that
  • 00:14:24.665 --> 00:14:26.200
  • As the results were coming in last night.
  • 00:14:26.200 --> 00:14:27.969
  • Is that man, if we could focus some of this energy.
  • 00:14:27.969 --> 00:14:30.004
  • Yeah.
  • 00:14:30.004 --> 00:14:30.671
  • On winning elections or,
  • 00:14:30.671 --> 00:14:33.507
  • You know, building unity as opposed to division.
  • 00:14:33.507 --> 00:14:36.344
  • So, lucas, you are at in some ways
  • 00:14:36.344 --> 00:14:39.013
  • At the tip of the spear when it on
  • 00:14:39.013 --> 00:14:40.781
  • Some of this church based stuff.
  • 00:14:40.781 --> 00:14:43.517
  • Right.
  • 00:14:43.517 --> 00:14:44.085
  • And there are factions,
  • 00:14:44.085 --> 00:14:44.885
  • There are people that that want,
  • 00:14:44.885 --> 00:14:46.754
  • You know, this group
  • 00:14:46.754 --> 00:14:47.655
  • To say this in this group to proclaim
  • 00:14:47.655 --> 00:14:49.790
  • This and draw a line in the sand and this.
  • 00:14:49.790 --> 00:14:51.192
  • How are you navigating this?
  • 00:14:51.192 --> 00:14:52.960
  • Because there's there's just a lot of infighting.
  • 00:14:53.961 --> 00:14:55.496
  • You know, anytime you work with pastors across different
  • 00:14:55.496 --> 00:14:57.732
  • Denominations, you have certain hot button issues
  • 00:14:57.732 --> 00:15:01.302
  • That make unity difficult. okay.
  • 00:15:01.302 --> 00:15:04.138
  • I shared with my staff, we all got together
  • 00:15:04.138 --> 00:15:06.974
  • At the night of the memorial.
  • 00:15:06.974 --> 00:15:08.009
  • Afterwards, we got together for a dinner
  • 00:15:08.009 --> 00:15:09.710
  • And just fellowship together
  • 00:15:09.710 --> 00:15:10.878
  • And just kind of cried and prayed together.
  • 00:15:10.878 --> 00:15:12.747
  • And i told them,
  • 00:15:12.747 --> 00:15:13.948
  • I said, this moment of unity that we're seeing right now,
  • 00:15:13.948 --> 00:15:16.317
  • I want to prepare you for the enemy does not want
  • 00:15:16.317 --> 00:15:19.720
  • To see this continue.
  • 00:15:19.720 --> 00:15:20.888
  • And there's a potential for,
  • 00:15:20.888 --> 00:15:22.523
  • You know,
  • 00:15:22.523 --> 00:15:23.657
  • The next phase is going to be factions and division
  • 00:15:23.657 --> 00:15:25.593
  • And everything else that can potentially get
  • 00:15:25.593 --> 00:15:27.128
  • The enemies, the enemies predictable.
  • 00:15:27.128 --> 00:15:28.963
  • We're not unaware of his schemes in that way.
  • 00:15:28.963 --> 00:15:31.098
  • And so we're seeing this, you know, the issue of israel
  • 00:15:31.098 --> 00:15:33.134
  • Is obviously one of those you have
  • 00:15:33.134 --> 00:15:34.602
  • You know, there's other things like,
  • 00:15:34.602 --> 00:15:36.203
  • You know, views of spiritual gifts and,
  • 00:15:36.203 --> 00:15:38.272
  • You know, once saved, always say
  • 00:15:38.272 --> 00:15:39.874
  • Calvinism versus arminian ism.
  • 00:15:39.874 --> 00:15:41.375
  • You know, we could look at those things.
  • 00:15:41.375 --> 00:15:42.843
  • But i think this issue of
  • 00:15:42.843 --> 00:15:43.844
  • Israel has become a very big dividing point,
  • 00:15:43.844 --> 00:15:46.714
  • You know, for people right now.
  • 00:15:46.714 --> 00:15:48.249
  • And unfortunately,
  • 00:15:48.249 --> 00:15:49.216
  • The conversation is being driven
  • 00:15:49.216 --> 00:15:51.118
  • Really by people that aren't very theological.
  • 00:15:51.118 --> 00:15:53.387
  • They don't have a doctrinal approach to this.
  • 00:15:53.387 --> 00:15:56.057
  • They see this is there's only 1 or 2 options.
  • 00:15:56.057 --> 00:15:58.392
  • You're either, you know,
  • 00:15:58.392 --> 00:15:59.627
  • Taking money from israel and you're bought and paid for,
  • 00:15:59.627 --> 00:16:03.297
  • And that's why
  • 00:16:03.297 --> 00:16:04.331
  • Your dispensation analysts or your replacement
  • 00:16:04.331 --> 00:16:06.600
  • Theology and israel doesn't matter at all.
  • 00:16:06.600 --> 00:16:08.669
  • And there's nothing
  • 00:16:08.669 --> 00:16:09.503
  • That from a theological standpoint,
  • 00:16:09.503 --> 00:16:11.338
  • There's actually a wide spectrum.
  • 00:16:11.338 --> 00:16:13.007
  • You have,
  • 00:16:13.007 --> 00:16:14.008
  • You know, radical dispensation is on one side,
  • 00:16:14.008 --> 00:16:16.243
  • And you have replacement theology on the other side.
  • 00:16:16.243 --> 00:16:18.312
  • And, and, you know, across the spectrum
  • 00:16:18.312 --> 00:16:20.514
  • From a christian vantage point, all of those views
  • 00:16:20.514 --> 00:16:23.317
  • Would actually have support for israel.
  • 00:16:23.317 --> 00:16:25.086
  • They would actually have, you know, a positive view.
  • 00:16:25.086 --> 00:16:28.022
  • I'm so glad you're saying this.
  • 00:16:28.022 --> 00:16:29.356
  • And i don't mean to cut you off.
  • 00:16:29.356 --> 00:16:30.524
  • And so i'm sorry, lucas, but this idea
  • 00:16:30.524 --> 00:16:33.260
  • That you're either for or against the nation of.
  • 00:16:33.260 --> 00:16:36.397
  • I'm like,
  • 00:16:36.397 --> 00:16:37.498
  • Do you have any idea how off putting that binary is?
  • 00:16:37.498 --> 00:16:40.267
  • And that the people on both ends of the spectrum
  • 00:16:40.267 --> 00:16:42.403
  • That are pushing you to accept one or the other?
  • 00:16:42.403 --> 00:16:44.305
  • And i'm like, there's about 100 iterations
  • 00:16:44.305 --> 00:16:46.040
  • Between 100%, you know, it's like,
  • 00:16:46.040 --> 00:16:48.375
  • And so i just i think the whole discourse
  • 00:16:48.375 --> 00:16:50.444
  • Has been, really tainted and corrupted
  • 00:16:50.444 --> 00:16:53.180
  • And it's not productive, actually.
  • 00:16:53.180 --> 00:16:55.683
  • Yeah.
  • 00:16:55.683 --> 00:16:56.550
  • The question is obviously, you know,
  • 00:16:56.550 --> 00:16:57.651
  • Defining israel is is a thing we have to do,
  • 00:16:57.651 --> 00:17:00.554
  • Recognizing their purpose and place in history,
  • 00:17:00.554 --> 00:17:03.257
  • All these sorts of things.
  • 00:17:03.257 --> 00:17:04.492
  • And theologically, we have answers for that
  • 00:17:04.492 --> 00:17:06.360
  • Throughout this spectrum.
  • 00:17:06.360 --> 00:17:07.595
  • And and so when we say,
  • 00:17:07.595 --> 00:17:08.963
  • You know, the idea of what's god's view of israel,
  • 00:17:08.963 --> 00:17:11.232
  • The unifying view is this, you know,
  • 00:17:11.232 --> 00:17:13.534
  • Because we're not going to get dispensationalism
  • 00:17:13.534 --> 00:17:15.870
  • Theology guys who agree on everything theologically.
  • 00:17:15.870 --> 00:17:18.572
  • But what we can't agree with is god loves people.
  • 00:17:18.572 --> 00:17:21.242
  • He he's faithful.
  • 00:17:21.242 --> 00:17:22.543
  • He wants to see promises fulfilled,
  • 00:17:22.543 --> 00:17:24.912
  • And he wants to win over people for the sake of the gospel.
  • 00:17:24.912 --> 00:17:28.782
  • And when you start with that framework
  • 00:17:28.782 --> 00:17:30.484
  • And then start building from there,
  • 00:17:30.484 --> 00:17:32.353
  • These things start making a lot more sense
  • 00:17:32.353 --> 00:17:34.021
  • As you navigate through it.
  • 00:17:34.021 --> 00:17:39.059
  • Where are the tears or
  • 00:17:39.527 --> 00:17:41.762
  • From the pain of the life that she lived?
  • 00:17:41.762 --> 00:17:44.732
  • She's a survivor of auschwitz.
  • 00:17:45.332 --> 00:17:48.736
  • The years that they would just beat her
  • 00:17:48.736 --> 00:17:51.105
  • Ears, that she didn't have food and felt hungry.
  • 00:17:51.105 --> 00:17:54.775
  • And our answer is love.
  • 00:17:55.276 --> 00:17:58.946
  • With a gift of only $25.
  • 00:17:59.480 --> 00:18:01.749
  • You'll deliver a life
  • 00:18:01.749 --> 00:18:02.917
  • Saving food box into the hands of an elderly jew in need
  • 00:18:02.917 --> 00:18:07.421
  • Of a in you saying people have a heart.
  • 00:18:07.421 --> 00:18:10.658
  • There are good people today.
  • 00:18:10.658 --> 00:18:12.493
  • Call, scan or go online now.
  • 00:18:12.493 --> 00:18:15.229
  • And the international
  • 00:18:15.229 --> 00:18:16.363
  • Fellowship of christians
  • 00:18:16.363 --> 00:18:17.631
  • And jews will rush your food box today.
  • 00:18:17.631 --> 00:18:20.401
  • Love you. this is a holy moment.
  • 00:18:20.401 --> 00:18:23.270
  • What you're doing is not simply being kind.
  • 00:18:23.270 --> 00:18:26.674
  • You are prophetically stepping into the scriptures
  • 00:18:26.674 --> 00:18:30.511
  • And being part of their redemption and our own.
  • 00:18:30.511 --> 00:18:33.981
  • Please call, scan or go online now.
  • 00:18:33.981 --> 00:18:37.020
  • Please call, scan or go online now.
  • 00:18:37.020 --> 00:18:43.659
  • There's a lot of young people that are very skeptical
  • 00:18:44.727 --> 00:18:47.763
  • About our foreign policy when it comes to israel.
  • 00:18:47.763 --> 00:18:50.199
  • Right.
  • 00:18:50.199 --> 00:18:50.833
  • And so we understand that
  • 00:18:50.833 --> 00:18:52.001
  • Theology can end up playing a role in foreign policy.
  • 00:18:52.001 --> 00:18:54.971
  • And, and there's an i'm just trying to be ecumenical here.
  • 00:18:54.971 --> 00:18:58.641
  • Right.
  • 00:18:58.841 --> 00:18:59.842
  • So we've got 8000 churches in our movement.
  • 00:18:59.842 --> 00:19:02.245
  • There's there's a lot of people,
  • 00:19:02.245 --> 00:19:03.813
  • Probably 1000 views of, of israel, probably.
  • 00:19:03.813 --> 00:19:06.515
  • Exactly.
  • 00:19:06.515 --> 00:19:07.650
  • So, so how do we in this moment where this has become
  • 00:19:07.650 --> 00:19:11.020
  • Such a flashpoint, by the way, our voters are telling us
  • 00:19:11.020 --> 00:19:15.057
  • They're screaming at us
  • 00:19:15.057 --> 00:19:16.792
  • That they want to focus on the economy,
  • 00:19:16.792 --> 00:19:18.261
  • That they want to focus on affordability of housing.
  • 00:19:18.261 --> 00:19:20.062
  • They're sick of talking about foreign policy.
  • 00:19:20.062 --> 00:19:22.231
  • They're sick of us seemingly focusing on it.
  • 00:19:22.231 --> 00:19:24.700
  • Now, i think there's arguments that you need to bring,
  • 00:19:24.700 --> 00:19:27.737
  • You need to bring peace abroad so that you can sort of
  • 00:19:27.737 --> 00:19:31.841
  • Have a you can focus on domestic issues
  • 00:19:31.841 --> 00:19:35.378
  • And domestic tranquility.
  • 00:19:35.378 --> 00:19:36.646
  • That's, jd vance
  • 00:19:36.646 --> 00:19:37.913
  • Actually tweeted out something like that.
  • 00:19:37.913 --> 00:19:39.181
  • Hey, we do need peace abroad so that we can really focus on.
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  • Okay, so whatever.
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  • So we got three years left in the in the in the trump,
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  • Trump 2.0 administration.
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  • We got to focus on domestic issues.
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  • But this is this issue is not going away.
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  • So how within the church circles, within faith
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  • Circles do we bring
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  • What should
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  • Our heart posture be towards our brothers in the church
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  • That have different, differing opinions about israel?
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  • Well, there's room for disagreement on this,
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  • And i have plenty of friends
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  • That don't see things the way that i see them.
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  • But i do believe, you know, the next event in the prophetic
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  • Calendar is what is called the rapture.
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  • The church will be caught up to meet the lord in the air.
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  • I think an antichrist figure is going to come.
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  • The tribulation
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  • Period is going to happen, i believe then the second
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  • Coming takes place and so forth.
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  • But but i think
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  • Israel is a fulfillment of what ezekiel prophesied
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  • Of the people returning to their homeland.
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  • And it happened on the heels of the holocaust, however.
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  • Okay, so maybe you would say, oh, well,
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  • I don't see that in the quite that way. okay, fine.
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  • But but there's no room for anti-semitism, okay.
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  • And that is what is growing, you know, right now,
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  • It's going from everywhere, from ivy league universities to
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  • The world of podcasting.
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  • We're hearing about it more and more,
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  • And i hear people addressing theological issues
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  • Who don't seem to understand.
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  • To your point, lucas,
  • 00:21:01.063 --> 00:21:02.365
  • What the bible actually says about these.
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  • However, there's room for difference in that.
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  • But, certainly that's the only democracy in the middle east.
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  • And we want to and i do believe the promise of god
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  • That says, god will bless those that bless you and curse
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  • Those that curse you.
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  • I believe one of the reasons the lord has blessed
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  • America is because we have stood by the jewish people
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  • And the nation, israel.
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  • And and president truman was we were the first
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  • To come out and say, we
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  • We stand by this new nation that is now declared itself.
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  • But but, you know, yes, in the church
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  • We have to find we can disagree agreeably.
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  • What does that saying, lucas?
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  • You would though, it in in essentials.
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  • Unity in non-essentials.
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  • Charity, charity.
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  • No non-essentials.
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  • There's another word and all things charity.
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  • Yes. yeah. the non-essentials.
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  • Liberty. liberty.
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  • Yeah. it's so.
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  • Okay, so let's call this a nonessential.
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  • Let's see. it's the have liberty here.
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  • We can disagree, but not for antisemitism.
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  • But maybe you have differing views on
  • 00:22:05.961 --> 00:22:07.563
  • How much support we should send to the state of israel.
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  • Okay, we can talk about that.
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  • But but we still understand
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  • Everything we have is come to us
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  • Through the jewish people, including our bible.
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  • And god has established a covenant with them.
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  • However, we don't want that to divide over those things.
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  • Well, i mean, i get how people conclude different things on.
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  • There's a lot i'm saying there's a lot there.
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  • And i understand how people of good faith
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  • Come to different conclusions.
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  • But where i totally 1,000% agree with you on
  • 00:22:32.121 --> 00:22:35.658
  • This is that there is no place for jew hate.
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  • And charlie was adamant about this there.
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  • And you can feel it on people.
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  • You can feel it in the way they they frame their arguments.
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  • And so i,
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  • I totally agree with that.
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  • And, i think we need to
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  • We need to have unity on on that.
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  • And i think, you know, we have to remember that
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  • Our savior is a is a semite.
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  • You know, it's like, you know, he's a jewish person.
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  • So, i think that's a good place to end it.
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  • Pastor greg laurie,
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  • Thank you for your wisdom and just your your consistency,
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  • Your steadiness, your focus on bringing people to a saving,
  • 00:23:05.254 --> 00:23:08.757
  • Faith in jesus christ.
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  • And in california, you're, you're holding it down.
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  • So, thank you so much for joining us.
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  • And, lucas, thank you for, making it happen. so good.
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  • Thank you. andrew.
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  • All right.
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  • God bless you.
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  • We truly are living in a historic time.
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  • After 738 days, the 20 living israeli hostages
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  • Have been released from captivity
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  • And those who were killed will finally rest in peace near
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  • Their loved ones. praise god!
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  • In this time of celebration, our good friends
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  • At the international fellowship of christians and jews
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  • Send their deepest gratitude for your prayers
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  • And unwavering support.
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  • Thanks to you, the fellowship has provided
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  • $300 million in emergency aid since october 7th,
  • 00:23:46.595 --> 00:23:50.599
  • Including millions in direct support for the hostages
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  • And their families.
  • 00:23:53.569 --> 00:23:54.670
  • Of course, the road ahead is still a long one.
  • 00:23:54.670 --> 00:23:57.373
  • Much needs to be done to restore
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  • And revive these victims of terrorism.
  • 00:23:59.074 --> 00:24:01.343
  • But that's exactly what the fellowship does.
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  • For example,
  • 00:24:03.412 --> 00:24:04.280
  • They're assisting returned hostages,
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  • Along with their families and friends, with immediate
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  • Medical, psychological and financial support.
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  • They're also providing
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  • Mental health care for israelis of all ages.
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  • To find out how you can help, visit ifc.org.
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  • That's ifc.org.
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