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  • Brought to you in part by the
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  • International fellowship of christians and jews.
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  • Here we are in studio.
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  • Lots going on.
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  • And by the way, some really, really great news.
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  • Yes. huge news,
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  • For erica and the team and really for charlie.
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  • We have just got the wall street
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  • Journal published it this morning.
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  • Charlie kirk's newest
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  • Book is a hit, and it it's out of stock on amazon.
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  • Here you go. yep.
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  • That's the that's the graphic from the wall street journal.
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  • The story. and here of course, is the book.
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  • Stop in the name of god.
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  • Why?
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  • Honoring the sabbath will transform your life.
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  • Erica has been doing an amazing job.
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  • She, of course, is on the show yesterday, promoting it in
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  • Charlie stead and i want to play a couple clips from erica
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  • Being on the fire yesterday just because it was so, it was
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  • I mean, i don't remember the last time i saw
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  • Kind of like, a guest host,
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  • On the fire especially, you know, promoting a book.
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  • So thank you to, the five and jesse
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  • And greg and dana and even jessica tarlov.
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  • She was very sweet.
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  • 219 girls, jesse and greg are in a bible study
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  • Group together.
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  • Are they really because of charlie kirk?
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  • Okay, that is really cool.
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  • So every morning that is really cool.
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  • Every morning we wake up and we read a passage
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  • And then we text about it. okay.
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  • And it is because of charlie, i love that.
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  • Wait a minute.
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  • So what are you saying?
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  • It was harold, jesse and greg.
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  • So harold the liberal, and jesse and greg are not,
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  • And they're all in a bible study because of charlie.
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  • So we found that out yesterday, which was.
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  • Which was amazing.
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  • Here's erica
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  • Kirk telling the five about how president trump
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  • Has been there for her in this time.
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  • 220 when donald trump secured peace in the middle east
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  • The next day, he flew back siddiq
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  • To deliver my husband's medal of freedom to me.
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  • He didn't have to do that.
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  • So a lot of people i understand there's a lot of policy
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  • And everything involved.
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  • But also, i am very proud
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  • To have donald trump as our president, i really am.
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  • He's a good man.
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  • So good man.
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  • And you know, two,
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  • Two, three, three put that picture back up.
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  • Stop in the name of tops number one on amazon
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  • Bestseller list.
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  • Book it out like it's sold out on amazon.
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  • They're going have to print more.
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  • Yeah. and it's just it's just phenomenal.
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  • So, congratulations to eric and the team,
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  • The team, winning team, publishing 45 books.com.
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  • If you want to get your copy.
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  • Eric was actually it was funny because,
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  • This morning,
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  • I've been
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  • Texting with a bunch of people with, you know,
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  • Eric is going to do
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  • Glenn beck's show tomorrow morning, and then,
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  • So we got to do a conversation
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  • With glenn's team, and then,
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  • So glenn's actually going to join us
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  • At the top of the show tomorrow. awesome.
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  • Which will be great.
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  • And we can talk about that many other things.
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  • But, there's another big news story
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  • That was near and dear to charlie's heart.
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  • This is this is love,
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  • And it's near and dear to blake's heart.
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  • So we're going to hit it at our one.
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  • We're also going to bring harmeet
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  • Dhillon, from the doj civil rights department on
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  • At the second half of this hour to talk about it.
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  • But that is, of course,
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  • The rolling back of disparate impact,
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  • Standards within the doj, within the federal government.
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  • But like, what is disparate impact,
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  • If you had to boil it down
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  • Already, so disparate impact is more
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  • People are thankfully becoming aware of it.
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  • But it's been around for half a century at this point.
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  • And disparate impact is sort of the it's the spearhead
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  • For a lot of what we call the dei regime the agenda, the
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  • Diaby i.d.
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  • Dictatorship of america, which is where
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  • Instead of things coming down to merit,
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  • Coming down to measurable ability, where we reduce things
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  • To quotas, to favoritism, to discrimination based on race
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  • Or sex or national origin, or who who knows what, and,
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  • You know, i think this is actually
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  • A good opportunity, for to bring in, charlie,
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  • Because he was talking about this in april
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  • When there was a trump
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  • Executive order concerning this.
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  • And we're going to get to the follow up in a second.
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  • But this was, charlie summing it up.
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  • Let's play.
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  • 236 in 1971,
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  • There was a supreme court case, griggs v duke power company.
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  • Duke power was sued because for people
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  • To get certain jobs at the company,
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  • They required them to either have a high school diploma
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  • Or pass an aptitude test.
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  • Black applicants were less likely to have a diploma,
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  • And they don't.
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  • They didn't do as well on the aptitude test.
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  • The supreme court ruled
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  • That duke's job requirements were, quote,
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  • Justified, were not justified by business necessity,
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  • And so they were illegally discriminatory.
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  • And thus the doctrine of disparate impact was born.
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  • The idea was this was a neutral test,
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  • Just having a high school diploma
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  • Or taking this aptitude test, no one could realize
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  • There was no one actually coming in and saying,
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  • Oh, don't hire black people, but they were just less
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  • Likely to do well as well on this test.
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  • And the court said, well,
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  • We don't think this test is close
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  • Enough to what you need employees
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  • To do at this company.
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  • And because it doesn't have an equal outcome
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  • Between these two groups, it's discriminatory.
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  • So it's what took our law from what most people think of
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  • When they think of discrimination,
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  • Where you're deliberately discriminating against people
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  • And they're saying anything you do.
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  • If it has an unequal outcome,
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  • Can be labeled illegal, can be labeled
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  • Illegal, discrimination can get you sued.
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  • And what that's turned into is you essentially anything
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  • Can be illegal
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  • Because newsflash, andrew, everything has unequal
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  • Outcomes, everything in the world.
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  • No one actually, i think we have this as well.
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  • Let's do 237 before the break.
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  • Literally every standard imaginable
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  • Has created has some sort of disparate
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  • Impact against a group.
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  • Nobody on this planet has ever designed a test
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  • Or a standard that men, women, blacks, whites,
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  • Asians, hispanics, catholic, jews, gays, straights
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  • Do so equally well.
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  • The very idea is an absurd fantasy.
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  • You're going to have different outcomes.
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  • But what disparate impact does it says
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  • The test itself is wrong.
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  • It is a loophole that you could drive a semi-truck through.
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  • It's a little sliver and you say, oh, disparate impact.
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  • Well, what's the big deal here?
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  • No, no, no, no, this has been exploited
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  • By dei actors for the last 30 years.
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  • 30 last 50 years.
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  • Yeah.
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  • And again, one of the things
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  • I want to get into the next segment is aptitude test.
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  • We used to require these to get a job
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  • In the federal government, for example.
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  • And the one of the best examples of this was the nypd.
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  • I brought it up before class of chiefs, the 1939.
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  • Now, this had controversy because they claimed
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  • It was anti semitic or anti-jewish.
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  • But here's what's interesting.
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  • They had so many applicants, they just selected candidates
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  • From the top scores on the civil service exam.
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  • It's a great way to pick people to retirement
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  • Or rank performance than any other year.
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  • We'll be right back.
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  • The wounds from
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  • October 7th didn't fade when the headlines did.
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  • Behind me rises
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  • A new rehabilitation home for israel's wounded soldiers.
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  • One of many urgent projects israel needs right now.
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  • Entire communities shattered.
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  • Families displaced.
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  • And each day,
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  • The impact of the need grows even more overwhelming.
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  • But the bible says it clearly.
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  • The righteous will live by faith and by faith.
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  • The fellowship is rolling up our sleeves
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  • And stepping into this immense challenge.
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  • Helping mothers who don't know where to begin again.
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  • Standing with paralyzed heroes.
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  • Fighting to take their first steps.
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  • Building centers of healing for the wounded
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  • And the traumatized.
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  • Bringing food and comfort to elderly israelis
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  • Who have no one else to care for them.
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  • To see the life saving work of the fellowship.
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  • Unfolding across israel right now.
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  • Visit ifc's dawg.
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  • Visit ifc's dawg.
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  • Recommend everybody check
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  • Out thomas soul's book discrimination and disparities.
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  • It's one of charlie's favorite books to to quote.
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  • And in in it so challenges single factor explanations.
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  • And what that means is
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  • There is disparities in racial outcomes.
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  • Blacks and hispanics tended not to do as well on certain
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  • Aptitude test.
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  • We can we can ask questions why that is.
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  • So they got
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  • Rid of aptitude tests largely
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  • In order to get into the federal government.
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  • You had to pass or you had to take a test,
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  • Which was what is it stand for, political and political or.
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  • No, no, it's a professional
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  • Civil and career examination and administrative career exam.
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  • Yeah.
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  • And so we still have some tests in the federal government,
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  • But they've been they've been removed.
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  • That's that's the important thing about disparate impact.
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  • It doesn't actually ban tests there.
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  • So for example, the maybe unless they got rid
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  • Of the state
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  • Department had long had a test to to get in and for example.
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  • But what when we say i said disparate impact
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  • Makes everything illegal.
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  • It literally does make everything illegal.
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  • And what that means is that you have government by vibes.
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  • So for example with disparate impact a company,
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  • If they say we're just going to give
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  • Every job applicant an iq test and hire the top scorers.
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  • Yeah, they'll get historically they would get a very
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  • Questionable look from the federal government.
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  • It would feel legally risky to do.
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  • But if they say
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  • You need this or that college diploma to be hired by us,
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  • It's very unlikely that they would be,
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  • Questioned, even if that diploma isn't
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  • Super directly related to what they're hiring for.
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  • Both of those things have a disparate impact.
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  • You know, whites
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  • And asians are more likely to have college diplomas
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  • Than black americans, for example.
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  • So why is one looked at negatively and the other isn't?
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  • It basically just comes down to how the bureaucrats feel.
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  • It's vibes based and government bureaucrats and lawyers
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  • Like colleges. they like diplomas.
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  • They like liberal colleges
  • 00:10:02.351 --> 00:10:04.019
  • Dispensing these job granting credentials
  • 00:10:04.019 --> 00:10:07.056
  • To people that you have to pay a ton of money for.
  • 00:10:07.056 --> 00:10:08.924
  • And they don't like iq tests.
  • 00:10:08.924 --> 00:10:11.193
  • And so you get this vibes based government.
  • 00:10:11.193 --> 00:10:14.163
  • And then you also get, that's what also drives that ratchet
  • 00:10:14.163 --> 00:10:17.466
  • That charlie would talk so much about,
  • 00:10:17.466 --> 00:10:18.967
  • Which is you avoid getting the government
  • 00:10:18.967 --> 00:10:21.070
  • After you by doing all these big, loud,
  • 00:10:21.070 --> 00:10:23.138
  • Expensive signals that you're not racist, that you're
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  • Not sexist
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  • Because everyone's breaking the law
  • 00:10:27.009 --> 00:10:28.777
  • Because everything's illegal.
  • 00:10:28.777 --> 00:10:29.978
  • So you just are trying to say, don't eat me
  • 00:10:29.978 --> 00:10:32.514
  • Because they can't eat everyone.
  • 00:10:32.514 --> 00:10:34.383
  • This all loops around to why we're talking about this today.
  • 00:10:34.383 --> 00:10:37.152
  • Because one of the great things
  • 00:10:37.152 --> 00:10:38.921
  • Going on in this administration,
  • 00:10:38.921 --> 00:10:40.723
  • Just yesterday, we had a great announcement
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  • From the department of justice, a civil rights division,
  • 00:10:42.991 --> 00:10:45.728
  • Where they're going after the traditional
  • 00:10:45.728 --> 00:10:49.498
  • Disparate impact prioritization in their office.
  • 00:10:49.498 --> 00:10:53.335
  • The quote they had from their division,
  • 00:10:53.335 --> 00:10:55.304
  • The prior disparate impact regulations
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  • Encourage people to file lawsuits challenging racially
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  • Neutral policies
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  • Without evidence of intentional discrimination.
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  • Our rejection of this theory will restore true equality
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  • Under the law by requiring proof of actual discrimination,
  • 00:11:08.117 --> 00:11:12.121
  • Rather than just enforcing
  • 00:11:12.121 --> 00:11:13.622
  • Race or sex based quotas or assumptions.
  • 00:11:13.622 --> 00:11:16.391
  • And the other thing that we had yesterday because of this,
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  • The civil rights division
  • 00:11:20.329 --> 00:11:21.463
  • Is a bunch of employees of the doj's civil
  • 00:11:21.463 --> 00:11:24.166
  • Rights decision, a division have released an open letter
  • 00:11:24.166 --> 00:11:27.770
  • Denouncing the direction
  • 00:11:28.303 --> 00:11:29.938
  • That the department has been headed in.
  • 00:11:29.938 --> 00:11:31.340
  • And it turns out about 75% of lawyers
  • 00:11:31.340 --> 00:11:35.144
  • Of career lawyers in the doj's civil rights division
  • 00:11:35.144 --> 00:11:37.913
  • Have left
  • 00:11:37.913 --> 00:11:38.881
  • Because they are outraged at the direction
  • 00:11:38.881 --> 00:11:40.315
  • The trump administration is taking it.
  • 00:11:40.315 --> 00:11:41.717
  • God bless america.
  • 00:11:41.717 --> 00:11:43.018
  • Yeah, this this is better than dodge.
  • 00:11:43.018 --> 00:11:45.020
  • This is better.
  • 00:11:45.020 --> 00:11:46.121
  • You know, like 75% of a of a single of a weaponized
  • 00:11:46.121 --> 00:11:50.092
  • Bureaucracy like the woke commissars, as charlie
  • 00:11:50.092 --> 00:11:53.195
  • Like to say, get them out, get them out.
  • 00:11:53.195 --> 00:11:56.064
  • Former doj staff criticized leadership
  • 00:11:56.064 --> 00:11:58.867
  • For abandoning civil rights mission.
  • 00:11:58.867 --> 00:12:01.303
  • That's a that's a good thing.
  • 00:12:01.303 --> 00:12:03.005
  • It's an amazing thing. stand up and clap.
  • 00:12:03.005 --> 00:12:05.007
  • And we are going to we're going to give harmeet
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  • Dhillon her her, kudos and a and a warm,
  • 00:12:06.942 --> 00:12:11.780
  • Congratulatory, welcome on to the show because
  • 00:12:11.780 --> 00:12:15.250
  • It's listen, you're losing 75 attorneys
  • 00:12:15.250 --> 00:12:18.554
  • That are leaving the doj civil rights for 275%.
  • 00:12:18.554 --> 00:12:21.490
  • Yeah, 75%. sorry.
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  • More than 200 former employees.
  • 00:12:23.425 --> 00:12:25.694
  • Yeah.
  • 00:12:25.694 --> 00:12:26.695
  • Criticize what they call an ongoing destruction
  • 00:12:26.695 --> 00:12:28.530
  • Of the civil rights division.
  • 00:12:28.530 --> 00:12:29.798
  • This is the this is bigger and more impactful
  • 00:12:29.798 --> 00:12:34.536
  • Than most people could possibly realize because,
  • 00:12:34.536 --> 00:12:37.606
  • Yeah, you know, charlie said 30 years
  • 00:12:37.606 --> 00:12:39.208
  • This has been going on for 50 years
  • 00:12:39.208 --> 00:12:40.843
  • In our federal government.
  • 00:12:40.843 --> 00:12:41.677
  • When you
  • 00:12:41.677 --> 00:12:42.878
  • See a sliding of standards, when you see an abandonment
  • 00:12:42.878 --> 00:12:45.914
  • Of meritocracy, when you see that like,
  • 00:12:45.914 --> 00:12:49.451
  • I think there's this prevailing fog over the country
  • 00:12:49.451 --> 00:12:51.987
  • Where it just feels like things don't matter anymore.
  • 00:12:51.987 --> 00:12:54.122
  • It's like, oh, well, people just get away with crap
  • 00:12:54.122 --> 00:12:56.158
  • And nobody gets held accountable.
  • 00:12:56.158 --> 00:12:57.926
  • This is one of the root causes for that, where it's like
  • 00:12:57.926 --> 00:13:00.596
  • Charlie used to say, it was like, whose line is it
  • 00:13:00.596 --> 00:13:02.531
  • Anyway?
  • 00:13:02.531 --> 00:13:03.732
  • Where the points are made up and the rules don't matter.
  • 00:13:03.732 --> 00:13:04.867
  • That's what modern society is starting to feel like.
  • 00:13:04.867 --> 00:13:06.869
  • Why does it feel that way?
  • 00:13:06.869 --> 00:13:08.370
  • Part of the root cause of of this is disparate impact.
  • 00:13:08.370 --> 00:13:11.773
  • It's and by the way,
  • 00:13:11.773 --> 00:13:13.342
  • The legal profession getting infected
  • 00:13:13.342 --> 00:13:15.143
  • With dei in critical theory and all of these things,
  • 00:13:15.143 --> 00:13:18.013
  • It floods out into the wider,
  • 00:13:18.013 --> 00:13:20.249
  • Culture and the wider society, government bureaucracies,
  • 00:13:20.249 --> 00:13:23.552
  • Civil order and things fall apart over time.
  • 00:13:23.552 --> 00:13:26.755
  • Things disinfect everything by grade.
  • 00:13:26.755 --> 00:13:28.790
  • And so
  • 00:13:28.790 --> 00:13:29.925
  • If you want to get to root causes,
  • 00:13:29.925 --> 00:13:31.727
  • You have to get rid of disparate impact.
  • 00:13:31.727 --> 00:13:33.562
  • This is a huge, huge development.
  • 00:13:33.562 --> 00:13:35.664
  • And we're going to talk about it with harmeet dhillon
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  • Next. don't go anywhere.
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  • That christmas morning.
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  • Wise men brought gifts from outside the holy land.
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  • But now that the war is over,
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  • This holy land and her people
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  • Are still carrying deep wounded.
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  • Many of the elderly are alone and suffering
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  • Box to someone here in israel
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  • This christmas chronicles season.
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  • People like hannah who can't buy food.
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  • Please call, scan or go online now to help rush emergency
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  • Food and healing to elderly jews
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  • And their christian neighbors struggling
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  • To rebuild their lives from the war.
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  • What will happen when we make this holy day season?
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  • Holy indeed.
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  • Holy indeed.
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  • Welcome to the show.
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  • Harmeet dhillon,
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  • Assistant attorney general for the civil rights division.
  • 00:14:54.945 --> 00:14:57.648
  • Think this is the first time
  • 00:14:57.648 --> 00:14:58.582
  • We've had you back, if i'm not mistaken.
  • 00:14:58.582 --> 00:15:00.284
  • In this, brave new world that we're living in.
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  • So welcome. we're honored to have you.
  • 00:15:03.654 --> 00:15:06.023
  • Thanks for having me.
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  • It's always an honor to be on this show.
  • 00:15:06.924 --> 00:15:08.993
  • Yeah, absolutely.
  • 00:15:08.993 --> 00:15:09.960
  • I, told the audience, harmeet,
  • 00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:11.862
  • That we were going to give you a very warm welcome
  • 00:15:11.862 --> 00:15:14.832
  • Because, you have
  • 00:15:15.265 --> 00:15:17.634
  • You have done what i think even doge was not able to do.
  • 00:15:17.634 --> 00:15:21.005
  • And, you you are.
  • 00:15:21.005 --> 00:15:23.707
  • I'm i'll let you describe it the way you want to,
  • 00:15:23.707 --> 00:15:26.143
  • Because i know these things can be sensitive
  • 00:15:26.143 --> 00:15:27.644
  • In the actual official halls of power, but,
  • 00:15:27.644 --> 00:15:30.414
  • You're clean cleaning house at the doj.
  • 00:15:30.414 --> 00:15:34.251
  • Civil rights division.
  • 00:15:34.251 --> 00:15:35.219
  • There's a report this morning.
  • 00:15:35.219 --> 00:15:36.687
  • We celebrate these changes.
  • 00:15:36.687 --> 00:15:38.655
  • And also there's news on disparate impact.
  • 00:15:38.655 --> 00:15:41.025
  • The floor is yours, harmeet.
  • 00:15:41.025 --> 00:15:42.993
  • Well, thank you so much, andrew.
  • 00:15:42.993 --> 00:15:44.428
  • And so, yes, i'm in the news this week
  • 00:15:44.428 --> 00:15:46.630
  • Because there are hundreds of disgruntled former
  • 00:15:46.630 --> 00:15:50.367
  • Civil rights division lawyers who voluntarily quit.
  • 00:15:50.367 --> 00:15:54.038
  • I didn't fire them
  • 00:15:54.038 --> 00:15:55.406
  • After i told them that their job was going to be to protect
  • 00:15:55.406 --> 00:15:58.842
  • The civil rights of all americans,
  • 00:15:58.842 --> 00:16:00.811
  • Not just the chosen few and their pet projects
  • 00:16:00.811 --> 00:16:03.947
  • That they had been pursuing for decades.
  • 00:16:03.947 --> 00:16:05.849
  • Here in the civil rights division,
  • 00:16:05.849 --> 00:16:07.618
  • 200 of them are so immediately quit and took a five month
  • 00:16:07.618 --> 00:16:11.021
  • Payout.
  • 00:16:11.021 --> 00:16:11.922
  • So over $100,000 worth of severance pay.
  • 00:16:11.922 --> 00:16:14.858
  • And then over the last few months, another, close to a.
  • 00:16:14.858 --> 00:16:18.262
  • Have quit.
  • 00:16:18.562 --> 00:16:19.763
  • And yet, you know, they're writing in the press.
  • 00:16:19.763 --> 00:16:22.166
  • Reuters covered it.
  • 00:16:22.166 --> 00:16:23.300
  • And they want they say that i'm trashing the doj.
  • 00:16:23.300 --> 00:16:26.703
  • I've changed its mission.
  • 00:16:26.703 --> 00:16:27.871
  • I'm making them
  • 00:16:27.871 --> 00:16:29.807
  • Making attorneys do stuff they don't want to do.
  • 00:16:29.807 --> 00:16:31.942
  • And it's,
  • 00:16:31.942 --> 00:16:33.110
  • It's against the storied, historic, vision of the doj.
  • 00:16:33.110 --> 00:16:36.580
  • But i completely disagree.
  • 00:16:36.580 --> 00:16:39.016
  • I'm really proud of the work that we're doing.
  • 00:16:39.016 --> 00:16:40.484
  • And obviously, it seems obvious to me
  • 00:16:40.484 --> 00:16:42.653
  • That the united states department of justice
  • 00:16:42.653 --> 00:16:45.522
  • Should be justice for all americans,
  • 00:16:45.522 --> 00:16:48.492
  • Not just some americans or some winners
  • 00:16:48.492 --> 00:16:51.095
  • Of a victimhood sweepstakes.
  • 00:16:51.095 --> 00:16:52.563
  • And i think that actually is very popular with americans.
  • 00:16:52.563 --> 00:16:55.399
  • And we're continuing to do the core focus of our work.
  • 00:16:55.399 --> 00:16:57.835
  • We're protecting people with disabilities.
  • 00:16:57.835 --> 00:16:59.570
  • We're even protecting prisoners.
  • 00:16:59.570 --> 00:17:01.371
  • We're protecting the rights of
  • 00:17:01.371 --> 00:17:02.873
  • Students in schools, employees in the workplace,
  • 00:17:02.873 --> 00:17:06.877
  • Contractors, people who are discriminated
  • 00:17:06.877 --> 00:17:11.248
  • Against, hate crimes, anti-semitism, actually
  • 00:17:11.248 --> 00:17:13.350
  • All the same stuff that we did before.
  • 00:17:13.350 --> 00:17:14.852
  • We're doing it, but we're just doing it
  • 00:17:14.852 --> 00:17:16.220
  • For everybody, not just for some.
  • 00:17:16.220 --> 00:17:17.855
  • And we're going to keep doing it that way.
  • 00:17:17.855 --> 00:17:19.389
  • So if you don't like it, too bad.
  • 00:17:19.389 --> 00:17:22.059
  • This is how it's going to be for the balance
  • 00:17:22.059 --> 00:17:24.428
  • Of this administration.
  • 00:17:24.428 --> 00:17:25.696
  • And hopefully beyond, because shouldn't the doj
  • 00:17:25.696 --> 00:17:28.832
  • Be for all americans? so i'm really proud of that.
  • 00:17:28.832 --> 00:17:30.868
  • And yeah, this criticism just shows
  • 00:17:30.868 --> 00:17:32.503
  • That we're over the target andrew.
  • 00:17:32.503 --> 00:17:34.071
  • It's amazing. and so it's amazing.
  • 00:17:34.071 --> 00:17:35.906
  • Yeah.
  • 00:17:35.906 --> 00:17:37.107
  • Like trust me we are this news we they're like standing up
  • 00:17:37.107 --> 00:17:41.078
  • And clapping before when when we saw it i'm telling you.
  • 00:17:41.078 --> 00:17:44.781
  • So again, just to reiterate, about 75% of attorneys left
  • 00:17:44.781 --> 00:17:48.318
  • The doj civil rights division and claim amid claims
  • 00:17:48.318 --> 00:17:51.121
  • Of a coordinated effort to drive them out.
  • 00:17:51.121 --> 00:17:52.789
  • No, they quit on their own accord.
  • 00:17:52.789 --> 00:17:54.625
  • You did not fire them,
  • 00:17:54.625 --> 00:17:55.926
  • And they claim that you're abandoned abandoning
  • 00:17:55.926 --> 00:17:58.462
  • The civil rights mission of the doj.
  • 00:17:58.462 --> 00:18:01.165
  • I think this is great.
  • 00:18:01.165 --> 00:18:02.833
  • Is it safe to say, harmeet,
  • 00:18:02.833 --> 00:18:04.234
  • That that the doj civil rights division is now hiring?
  • 00:18:04.234 --> 00:18:07.671
  • There is, some spots opened up.
  • 00:18:07.671 --> 00:18:09.973
  • So. okay, so thank you for mentioning that.
  • 00:18:09.973 --> 00:18:12.276
  • I was itching to say that.
  • 00:18:12.276 --> 00:18:13.343
  • And so to be clear, we have a huge agenda.
  • 00:18:13.343 --> 00:18:16.947
  • So it isn't just sort of there's no goal to shrink
  • 00:18:16.947 --> 00:18:20.651
  • The civil rights division.
  • 00:18:20.651 --> 00:18:21.618
  • We actually have a huge affirmative agenda.
  • 00:18:21.618 --> 00:18:23.554
  • I'm suing 14 states.
  • 00:18:23.554 --> 00:18:25.022
  • Right now, and they're going to be more
  • 00:18:25.022 --> 00:18:26.390
  • On that list by the end of the week.
  • 00:18:26.390 --> 00:18:28.358
  • A lot of exciting litigation.
  • 00:18:28.358 --> 00:18:29.660
  • We just sued minneapolis for, discriminating against,
  • 00:18:29.660 --> 00:18:33.230
  • Teachers who are not minorities and,
  • 00:18:33.230 --> 00:18:35.599
  • You know, on and on and on.
  • 00:18:35.599 --> 00:18:36.833
  • And so we are hiring and so lawyers with at least
  • 00:18:36.833 --> 00:18:40.871
  • 18 months experience who are interested
  • 00:18:40.871 --> 00:18:43.073
  • In serving a tour of duty to help their country
  • 00:18:43.073 --> 00:18:45.842
  • Can apply at usa jobs.gov and look for civil rights division.
  • 00:18:45.842 --> 00:18:50.280
  • We are hiring as fast as we can.
  • 00:18:50.280 --> 00:18:52.282
  • Qualified candidates who are willing to do the work.
  • 00:18:52.282 --> 00:18:55.319
  • I just articulated enforce all of our federal civil
  • 00:18:55.319 --> 00:18:58.355
  • Rights statutes with a lens of all americans
  • 00:18:58.355 --> 00:19:01.825
  • And this administration's priorities.
  • 00:19:01.825 --> 00:19:03.594
  • You know, i get it. okay.
  • 00:19:03.594 --> 00:19:04.995
  • It was like let's say it was 83% white country.
  • 00:19:04.995 --> 00:19:08.165
  • Now we're basically 50%.
  • 00:19:08.165 --> 00:19:09.900
  • We're on track to, you know, i think the last census had
  • 00:19:09.900 --> 00:19:12.736
  • Whites at, what, 56, 57% of the population.
  • 00:19:12.736 --> 00:19:15.939
  • You give that another ten years, it's going to be,
  • 00:19:15.939 --> 00:19:18.575
  • Probably under 50%, maybe right around 50%.
  • 00:19:18.575 --> 00:19:21.845
  • I mean, that's what we're kind of like
  • 00:19:21.845 --> 00:19:22.980
  • Losing every ten years at a ten year clip.
  • 00:19:22.980 --> 00:19:25.082
  • When i was, born, i think we were around 80% white still.
  • 00:19:25.082 --> 00:19:28.452
  • But as this happens, you're going to see,
  • 00:19:28.452 --> 00:19:32.022
  • I don't know, some of this old way of thinking
  • 00:19:32.022 --> 00:19:34.091
  • About how white equals bad, oppressive majority.
  • 00:19:34.091 --> 00:19:36.693
  • Like, it's it's got to necessarily
  • 00:19:36.693 --> 00:19:39.763
  • We've got to rethink the way this is happening.
  • 00:19:39.763 --> 00:19:41.598
  • Because if you're just going to say that another
  • 00:19:41.598 --> 00:19:43.333
  • One of the minorities in this country would like,
  • 00:19:43.333 --> 00:19:45.302
  • I mean, it might be minority majority, but like, still,
  • 00:19:45.302 --> 00:19:48.105
  • It's not the same dynamics as it was in the past.
  • 00:19:48.105 --> 00:19:51.141
  • And and we have to
  • 00:19:51.141 --> 00:19:52.242
  • We have to make sure everybody is getting protected.
  • 00:19:52.242 --> 00:19:54.611
  • And one of the ways that you do that sorry.
  • 00:19:54.611 --> 00:19:57.014
  • If you want to chime in there harmeet, feel free.
  • 00:19:57.014 --> 00:19:59.650
  • Yeah. so let me talk about that.
  • 00:19:59.650 --> 00:20:01.018
  • I mean, like, let's be very frank here.
  • 00:20:01.018 --> 00:20:03.086
  • We have a history of discrimination in our country.
  • 00:20:03.086 --> 00:20:05.622
  • There are slaves.
  • 00:20:05.622 --> 00:20:06.623
  • They are not white.
  • 00:20:06.623 --> 00:20:08.025
  • And they were
  • 00:20:08.025 --> 00:20:09.459
  • Then kept down
  • 00:20:09.459 --> 00:20:10.627
  • By mainly southern but not exclusively southern states.
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  • And so the civil rights act of 1964 included
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  • A very important law that i personally use
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  • For most of my career, title seven, and the supreme court
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  • In 1971 issued a case called, duke power versus griggs.
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  • And this is about a janitor who allegedly was impacted
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  • Negatively by some policies and hiring at, duke power.
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  • And that started this concept of disparate impact.
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  • So, in other words, you no longer necessarily had to prove
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  • In your discrimination case, whatever the context was,
  • 00:20:41.792 --> 00:20:44.895
  • That you were actually being
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  • The victim of intentional discrimination,
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  • We have now issued a guidance that says that this 50 years
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  • Of discrimination against, frankly, law
  • 00:20:52.235 --> 00:20:56.406
  • Abiding practices in businesses and and recipients is over.
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  • It is harming a lot of people.
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  • It is wrong.
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  • And you should go back to having
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  • To prove intentional discrimination.
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  • By the way, there may be statistical
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  • Cases to be brought there
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  • That so we're not banning the use of statistics.
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  • What we're saying
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  • Is we're not going to let people use statistics
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  • To assume a default of discrimination,
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  • And people are going to have to prove their cases.
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  • And that includes the government.
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  • Sometimes that includes me.
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  • If i have to bring a case against a school
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  • District or against a university,
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  • I have to use my evidence
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  • And prove the case, not just have a default
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  • Assumption of discrimination,
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  • Because that has hurt so many people in our country.
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  • It has eroded merit based hiring.
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  • It has put companies on the defensive.
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  • It has encouraged and now institutionalized
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  • Quotas from every institution,
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  • Including the boardrooms
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  • Of america's largest corporations,
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  • Because they're all government contractors.
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  • And so this is so damaging.
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  • And if we can just reverse that back
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  • To an assumption that americans are good,
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  • Generally speaking, we follow the law.
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  • If something bad happened to you, prove it
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  • With intentional discrimination evidence.
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  • I think that is really a great development for all americans.
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  • Well, god bless you.
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  • Harmeet k dhillon, assistant
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  • Attorney general at civil rights, division of the doj.
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  • Thank you so much for all your great work.
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  • You are crushing it.
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  • And we are so, proud to to have you on this show.
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  • Go get a job.
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  • If you're a lawyer out there, go work with harmeet
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  • And help make the country a better place.
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  • God bless you. yeah, usa job gov.
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  • I'd like to express my
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