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Charlie Kirk Today | Harmeet Dhillon: December 11, 2025 | Charlie Kirk Today | December 11, 2025
- Brought to you in part by the
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- International fellowship of christians and jews.
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- Here we are in studio.
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- Lots going on.
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- And by the way, some really, really great news.
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- Yes. huge news,
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- For erica and the team and really for charlie.
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- We have just got the wall street
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- Journal published it this morning.
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- Charlie kirk's newest
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- Book is a hit, and it it's out of stock on amazon.
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- Here you go. yep.
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- That's the that's the graphic from the wall street journal.
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- The story. and here of course, is the book.
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- Stop in the name of god.
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- Why?
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- Honoring the sabbath will transform your life.
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- Erica has been doing an amazing job.
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- She, of course, is on the show yesterday, promoting it in
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- Charlie stead and i want to play a couple clips from erica
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- Being on the fire yesterday just because it was so, it was
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- I mean, i don't remember the last time i saw
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- Kind of like, a guest host,
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- On the fire especially, you know, promoting a book.
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- So thank you to, the five and jesse
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- And greg and dana and even jessica tarlov.
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- She was very sweet.
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- 219 girls, jesse and greg are in a bible study
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- Group together.
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- Are they really because of charlie kirk?
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- Okay, that is really cool.
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- So every morning that is really cool.
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- Every morning we wake up and we read a passage
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- And then we text about it. okay.
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- And it is because of charlie, i love that.
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- Wait a minute.
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- So what are you saying?
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- It was harold, jesse and greg.
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- So harold the liberal, and jesse and greg are not,
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- And they're all in a bible study because of charlie.
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- So we found that out yesterday, which was.
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- Which was amazing.
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- Here's erica
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- Kirk telling the five about how president trump
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- Has been there for her in this time.
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- 220 when donald trump secured peace in the middle east
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- The next day, he flew back siddiq
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- To deliver my husband's medal of freedom to me.
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- He didn't have to do that.
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- So a lot of people i understand there's a lot of policy
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- And everything involved.
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- But also, i am very proud
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- To have donald trump as our president, i really am.
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- He's a good man.
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- So good man.
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- And you know, two,
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- Two, three, three put that picture back up.
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- Stop in the name of tops number one on amazon
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- Bestseller list.
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- Book it out like it's sold out on amazon.
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- They're going have to print more.
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- Yeah. and it's just it's just phenomenal.
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- So, congratulations to eric and the team,
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- The team, winning team, publishing 45 books.com.
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- If you want to get your copy.
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- Eric was actually it was funny because,
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- This morning,
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- I've been
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- Texting with a bunch of people with, you know,
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- Eric is going to do
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- Glenn beck's show tomorrow morning, and then,
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- So we got to do a conversation
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- With glenn's team, and then,
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- So glenn's actually going to join us
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- At the top of the show tomorrow. awesome.
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- Which will be great.
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- And we can talk about that many other things.
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- But, there's another big news story
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- That was near and dear to charlie's heart.
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- This is this is love,
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- And it's near and dear to blake's heart.
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- So we're going to hit it at our one.
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- We're also going to bring harmeet
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- Dhillon, from the doj civil rights department on
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- At the second half of this hour to talk about it.
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- But that is, of course,
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- The rolling back of disparate impact,
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- Standards within the doj, within the federal government.
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- But like, what is disparate impact,
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- If you had to boil it down
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- Already, so disparate impact is more
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- People are thankfully becoming aware of it.
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- But it's been around for half a century at this point.
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- And disparate impact is sort of the it's the spearhead
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- For a lot of what we call the dei regime the agenda, the
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- Diaby i.d.
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- Dictatorship of america, which is where
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- Instead of things coming down to merit,
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- Coming down to measurable ability, where we reduce things
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- To quotas, to favoritism, to discrimination based on race
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- Or sex or national origin, or who who knows what, and,
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- You know, i think this is actually
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- A good opportunity, for to bring in, charlie,
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- Because he was talking about this in april
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- When there was a trump
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- Executive order concerning this.
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- And we're going to get to the follow up in a second.
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- But this was, charlie summing it up.
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- Let's play.
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- 236 in 1971,
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- There was a supreme court case, griggs v duke power company.
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- Duke power was sued because for people
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- To get certain jobs at the company,
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- They required them to either have a high school diploma
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- Or pass an aptitude test.
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- Black applicants were less likely to have a diploma,
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- And they don't.
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- They didn't do as well on the aptitude test.
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- The supreme court ruled
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- That duke's job requirements were, quote,
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- Justified, were not justified by business necessity,
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- And so they were illegally discriminatory.
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- And thus the doctrine of disparate impact was born.
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- The idea was this was a neutral test,
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- Just having a high school diploma
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- Or taking this aptitude test, no one could realize
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- There was no one actually coming in and saying,
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- Oh, don't hire black people, but they were just less
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- Likely to do well as well on this test.
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- And the court said, well,
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- We don't think this test is close
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- Enough to what you need employees
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- To do at this company.
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- And because it doesn't have an equal outcome
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- Between these two groups, it's discriminatory.
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- So it's what took our law from what most people think of
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- When they think of discrimination,
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- Where you're deliberately discriminating against people
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- And they're saying anything you do.
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- If it has an unequal outcome,
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- Can be labeled illegal, can be labeled
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- Illegal, discrimination can get you sued.
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- And what that's turned into is you essentially anything
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- Can be illegal
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- Because newsflash, andrew, everything has unequal
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- Outcomes, everything in the world.
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- No one actually, i think we have this as well.
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- Let's do 237 before the break.
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- Literally every standard imaginable
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- Has created has some sort of disparate
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- Impact against a group.
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- Nobody on this planet has ever designed a test
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- Or a standard that men, women, blacks, whites,
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- Asians, hispanics, catholic, jews, gays, straights
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- Do so equally well.
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- The very idea is an absurd fantasy.
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- You're going to have different outcomes.
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- But what disparate impact does it says
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- The test itself is wrong.
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- It is a loophole that you could drive a semi-truck through.
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- It's a little sliver and you say, oh, disparate impact.
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- Well, what's the big deal here?
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- No, no, no, no, this has been exploited
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- By dei actors for the last 30 years.
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- 30 last 50 years.
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- Yeah.
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- And again, one of the things
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- I want to get into the next segment is aptitude test.
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- We used to require these to get a job
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- In the federal government, for example.
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- And the one of the best examples of this was the nypd.
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- I brought it up before class of chiefs, the 1939.
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- Now, this had controversy because they claimed
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- It was anti semitic or anti-jewish.
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- But here's what's interesting.
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- They had so many applicants, they just selected candidates
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- From the top scores on the civil service exam.
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- It's a great way to pick people to retirement
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- Or rank performance than any other year.
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- We'll be right back.
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- The wounds from
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- October 7th didn't fade when the headlines did.
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- Behind me rises
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- A new rehabilitation home for israel's wounded soldiers.
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- One of many urgent projects israel needs right now.
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- Entire communities shattered.
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- Families displaced.
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- And each day,
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- The impact of the need grows even more overwhelming.
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- But the bible says it clearly.
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- The righteous will live by faith and by faith.
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- The fellowship is rolling up our sleeves
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- And stepping into this immense challenge.
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- Helping mothers who don't know where to begin again.
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- Standing with paralyzed heroes.
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- Fighting to take their first steps.
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- Building centers of healing for the wounded
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- And the traumatized.
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- Bringing food and comfort to elderly israelis
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- Who have no one else to care for them.
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- To see the life saving work of the fellowship.
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- Unfolding across israel right now.
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- Visit ifc's dawg.
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- Visit ifc's dawg.
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- Recommend everybody check
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- Out thomas soul's book discrimination and disparities.
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- It's one of charlie's favorite books to to quote.
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- And in in it so challenges single factor explanations.
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- And what that means is
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- There is disparities in racial outcomes.
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- Blacks and hispanics tended not to do as well on certain
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- Aptitude test.
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- We can we can ask questions why that is.
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- So they got
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- Rid of aptitude tests largely
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- In order to get into the federal government.
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- You had to pass or you had to take a test,
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- Which was what is it stand for, political and political or.
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- No, no, it's a professional
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- Civil and career examination and administrative career exam.
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- Yeah.
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- And so we still have some tests in the federal government,
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- But they've been they've been removed.
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- That's that's the important thing about disparate impact.
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- It doesn't actually ban tests there.
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- So for example, the maybe unless they got rid
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- Of the state
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- Department had long had a test to to get in and for example.
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- But what when we say i said disparate impact
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- Makes everything illegal.
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- It literally does make everything illegal.
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- And what that means is that you have government by vibes.
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- So for example with disparate impact a company,
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- If they say we're just going to give
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- Every job applicant an iq test and hire the top scorers.
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- Yeah, they'll get historically they would get a very
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- Questionable look from the federal government.
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- It would feel legally risky to do.
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- But if they say
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- You need this or that college diploma to be hired by us,
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- It's very unlikely that they would be,
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- Questioned, even if that diploma isn't
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- Super directly related to what they're hiring for.
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- Both of those things have a disparate impact.
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- You know, whites
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- And asians are more likely to have college diplomas
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- Than black americans, for example.
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- So why is one looked at negatively and the other isn't?
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- It basically just comes down to how the bureaucrats feel.
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- It's vibes based and government bureaucrats and lawyers
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- Like colleges. they like diplomas.
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- They like liberal colleges
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- Dispensing these job granting credentials
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- To people that you have to pay a ton of money for.
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- And they don't like iq tests.
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- And so you get this vibes based government.
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- And then you also get, that's what also drives that ratchet
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- That charlie would talk so much about,
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- Which is you avoid getting the government
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- After you by doing all these big, loud,
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- Expensive signals that you're not racist, that you're
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- Not sexist
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- Because everyone's breaking the law
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- Because everything's illegal.
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- So you just are trying to say, don't eat me
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- Because they can't eat everyone.
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- This all loops around to why we're talking about this today.
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- Because one of the great things
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- Going on in this administration,
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- Just yesterday, we had a great announcement
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- From the department of justice, a civil rights division,
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- Where they're going after the traditional
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- Disparate impact prioritization in their office.
- 00:10:49.498 --> 00:10:53.335
- The quote they had from their division,
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- The prior disparate impact regulations
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- Encourage people to file lawsuits challenging racially
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- Neutral policies
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- Without evidence of intentional discrimination.
- 00:11:02.377 --> 00:11:05.347
- Our rejection of this theory will restore true equality
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- Under the law by requiring proof of actual discrimination,
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- Rather than just enforcing
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- Race or sex based quotas or assumptions.
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- And the other thing that we had yesterday because of this,
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- The civil rights division
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- Is a bunch of employees of the doj's civil
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- Rights decision, a division have released an open letter
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- Denouncing the direction
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- That the department has been headed in.
- 00:11:29.938 --> 00:11:31.340
- And it turns out about 75% of lawyers
- 00:11:31.340 --> 00:11:35.144
- Of career lawyers in the doj's civil rights division
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- Have left
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- Because they are outraged at the direction
- 00:11:38.881 --> 00:11:40.315
- The trump administration is taking it.
- 00:11:40.315 --> 00:11:41.717
- God bless america.
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- Yeah, this this is better than dodge.
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- This is better.
- 00:11:45.020 --> 00:11:46.121
- You know, like 75% of a of a single of a weaponized
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- Bureaucracy like the woke commissars, as charlie
- 00:11:50.092 --> 00:11:53.195
- Like to say, get them out, get them out.
- 00:11:53.195 --> 00:11:56.064
- Former doj staff criticized leadership
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- For abandoning civil rights mission.
- 00:11:58.867 --> 00:12:01.303
- That's a that's a good thing.
- 00:12:01.303 --> 00:12:03.005
- It's an amazing thing. stand up and clap.
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- And we are going to we're going to give harmeet
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- Dhillon her her, kudos and a and a warm,
- 00:12:06.942 --> 00:12:11.780
- Congratulatory, welcome on to the show because
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- It's listen, you're losing 75 attorneys
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- That are leaving the doj civil rights for 275%.
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- Yeah, 75%. sorry.
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- More than 200 former employees.
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- Yeah.
- 00:12:25.694 --> 00:12:26.695
- Criticize what they call an ongoing destruction
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- Of the civil rights division.
- 00:12:28.530 --> 00:12:29.798
- This is the this is bigger and more impactful
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- Than most people could possibly realize because,
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- Yeah, you know, charlie said 30 years
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- This has been going on for 50 years
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- In our federal government.
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- When you
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- See a sliding of standards, when you see an abandonment
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- Of meritocracy, when you see that like,
- 00:12:45.914 --> 00:12:49.451
- I think there's this prevailing fog over the country
- 00:12:49.451 --> 00:12:51.987
- Where it just feels like things don't matter anymore.
- 00:12:51.987 --> 00:12:54.122
- It's like, oh, well, people just get away with crap
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- And nobody gets held accountable.
- 00:12:56.158 --> 00:12:57.926
- This is one of the root causes for that, where it's like
- 00:12:57.926 --> 00:13:00.596
- Charlie used to say, it was like, whose line is it
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- Anyway?
- 00:13:02.531 --> 00:13:03.732
- Where the points are made up and the rules don't matter.
- 00:13:03.732 --> 00:13:04.867
- That's what modern society is starting to feel like.
- 00:13:04.867 --> 00:13:06.869
- Why does it feel that way?
- 00:13:06.869 --> 00:13:08.370
- Part of the root cause of of this is disparate impact.
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- It's and by the way,
- 00:13:11.773 --> 00:13:13.342
- The legal profession getting infected
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- With dei in critical theory and all of these things,
- 00:13:15.143 --> 00:13:18.013
- It floods out into the wider,
- 00:13:18.013 --> 00:13:20.249
- Culture and the wider society, government bureaucracies,
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- Civil order and things fall apart over time.
- 00:13:23.552 --> 00:13:26.755
- Things disinfect everything by grade.
- 00:13:26.755 --> 00:13:28.790
- And so
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- If you want to get to root causes,
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- You have to get rid of disparate impact.
- 00:13:31.727 --> 00:13:33.562
- This is a huge, huge development.
- 00:13:33.562 --> 00:13:35.664
- And we're going to talk about it with harmeet dhillon
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- Next. don't go anywhere.
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- That christmas morning.
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- Wise men brought gifts from outside the holy land.
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- But now that the war is over,
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- This holy land and her people
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- Are still carrying deep wounded.
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- Many of the elderly are alone and suffering
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- Like the wise men or wise women.
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- When you open your heart and give a special holiday food
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- Box to someone here in israel
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- This christmas chronicles season.
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- People like hannah who can't buy food.
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- That's where the fellowship is called to feed the hungry.
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- Please call, scan or go online now to help rush emergency
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- Food and healing to elderly jews
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- And their christian neighbors struggling
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- To rebuild their lives from the war.
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- What will happen when we make this holy day season?
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- Holy indeed.
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- Holy indeed.
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- Welcome to the show.
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- Harmeet dhillon,
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- Assistant attorney general for the civil rights division.
- 00:14:54.945 --> 00:14:57.648
- Think this is the first time
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- We've had you back, if i'm not mistaken.
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- In this, brave new world that we're living in.
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- So welcome. we're honored to have you.
- 00:15:03.654 --> 00:15:06.023
- Thanks for having me.
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- It's always an honor to be on this show.
- 00:15:06.924 --> 00:15:08.993
- Yeah, absolutely.
- 00:15:08.993 --> 00:15:09.960
- I, told the audience, harmeet,
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- That we were going to give you a very warm welcome
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- Because, you have
- 00:15:15.265 --> 00:15:17.634
- You have done what i think even doge was not able to do.
- 00:15:17.634 --> 00:15:21.005
- And, you you are.
- 00:15:21.005 --> 00:15:23.707
- I'm i'll let you describe it the way you want to,
- 00:15:23.707 --> 00:15:26.143
- Because i know these things can be sensitive
- 00:15:26.143 --> 00:15:27.644
- In the actual official halls of power, but,
- 00:15:27.644 --> 00:15:30.414
- You're clean cleaning house at the doj.
- 00:15:30.414 --> 00:15:34.251
- Civil rights division.
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- There's a report this morning.
- 00:15:35.219 --> 00:15:36.687
- We celebrate these changes.
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- And also there's news on disparate impact.
- 00:15:38.655 --> 00:15:41.025
- The floor is yours, harmeet.
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- Well, thank you so much, andrew.
- 00:15:42.993 --> 00:15:44.428
- And so, yes, i'm in the news this week
- 00:15:44.428 --> 00:15:46.630
- Because there are hundreds of disgruntled former
- 00:15:46.630 --> 00:15:50.367
- Civil rights division lawyers who voluntarily quit.
- 00:15:50.367 --> 00:15:54.038
- I didn't fire them
- 00:15:54.038 --> 00:15:55.406
- After i told them that their job was going to be to protect
- 00:15:55.406 --> 00:15:58.842
- The civil rights of all americans,
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- Not just the chosen few and their pet projects
- 00:16:00.811 --> 00:16:03.947
- That they had been pursuing for decades.
- 00:16:03.947 --> 00:16:05.849
- Here in the civil rights division,
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- 200 of them are so immediately quit and took a five month
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- Payout.
- 00:16:11.021 --> 00:16:11.922
- So over $100,000 worth of severance pay.
- 00:16:11.922 --> 00:16:14.858
- And then over the last few months, another, close to a.
- 00:16:14.858 --> 00:16:18.262
- Have quit.
- 00:16:18.562 --> 00:16:19.763
- And yet, you know, they're writing in the press.
- 00:16:19.763 --> 00:16:22.166
- Reuters covered it.
- 00:16:22.166 --> 00:16:23.300
- And they want they say that i'm trashing the doj.
- 00:16:23.300 --> 00:16:26.703
- I've changed its mission.
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- I'm making them
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- Making attorneys do stuff they don't want to do.
- 00:16:29.807 --> 00:16:31.942
- And it's,
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- It's against the storied, historic, vision of the doj.
- 00:16:33.110 --> 00:16:36.580
- But i completely disagree.
- 00:16:36.580 --> 00:16:39.016
- I'm really proud of the work that we're doing.
- 00:16:39.016 --> 00:16:40.484
- And obviously, it seems obvious to me
- 00:16:40.484 --> 00:16:42.653
- That the united states department of justice
- 00:16:42.653 --> 00:16:45.522
- Should be justice for all americans,
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- Not just some americans or some winners
- 00:16:48.492 --> 00:16:51.095
- Of a victimhood sweepstakes.
- 00:16:51.095 --> 00:16:52.563
- And i think that actually is very popular with americans.
- 00:16:52.563 --> 00:16:55.399
- And we're continuing to do the core focus of our work.
- 00:16:55.399 --> 00:16:57.835
- We're protecting people with disabilities.
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- We're even protecting prisoners.
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- We're protecting the rights of
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- Students in schools, employees in the workplace,
- 00:17:02.873 --> 00:17:06.877
- Contractors, people who are discriminated
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- Against, hate crimes, anti-semitism, actually
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- All the same stuff that we did before.
- 00:17:13.350 --> 00:17:14.852
- We're doing it, but we're just doing it
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- For everybody, not just for some.
- 00:17:16.220 --> 00:17:17.855
- And we're going to keep doing it that way.
- 00:17:17.855 --> 00:17:19.389
- So if you don't like it, too bad.
- 00:17:19.389 --> 00:17:22.059
- This is how it's going to be for the balance
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- Of this administration.
- 00:17:24.428 --> 00:17:25.696
- And hopefully beyond, because shouldn't the doj
- 00:17:25.696 --> 00:17:28.832
- Be for all americans? so i'm really proud of that.
- 00:17:28.832 --> 00:17:30.868
- And yeah, this criticism just shows
- 00:17:30.868 --> 00:17:32.503
- That we're over the target andrew.
- 00:17:32.503 --> 00:17:34.071
- It's amazing. and so it's amazing.
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- Yeah.
- 00:17:35.906 --> 00:17:37.107
- Like trust me we are this news we they're like standing up
- 00:17:37.107 --> 00:17:41.078
- And clapping before when when we saw it i'm telling you.
- 00:17:41.078 --> 00:17:44.781
- So again, just to reiterate, about 75% of attorneys left
- 00:17:44.781 --> 00:17:48.318
- The doj civil rights division and claim amid claims
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- Of a coordinated effort to drive them out.
- 00:17:51.121 --> 00:17:52.789
- No, they quit on their own accord.
- 00:17:52.789 --> 00:17:54.625
- You did not fire them,
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- And they claim that you're abandoned abandoning
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- The civil rights mission of the doj.
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- I think this is great.
- 00:18:01.165 --> 00:18:02.833
- Is it safe to say, harmeet,
- 00:18:02.833 --> 00:18:04.234
- That that the doj civil rights division is now hiring?
- 00:18:04.234 --> 00:18:07.671
- There is, some spots opened up.
- 00:18:07.671 --> 00:18:09.973
- So. okay, so thank you for mentioning that.
- 00:18:09.973 --> 00:18:12.276
- I was itching to say that.
- 00:18:12.276 --> 00:18:13.343
- And so to be clear, we have a huge agenda.
- 00:18:13.343 --> 00:18:16.947
- So it isn't just sort of there's no goal to shrink
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- The civil rights division.
- 00:18:20.651 --> 00:18:21.618
- We actually have a huge affirmative agenda.
- 00:18:21.618 --> 00:18:23.554
- I'm suing 14 states.
- 00:18:23.554 --> 00:18:25.022
- Right now, and they're going to be more
- 00:18:25.022 --> 00:18:26.390
- On that list by the end of the week.
- 00:18:26.390 --> 00:18:28.358
- A lot of exciting litigation.
- 00:18:28.358 --> 00:18:29.660
- We just sued minneapolis for, discriminating against,
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- Teachers who are not minorities and,
- 00:18:33.230 --> 00:18:35.599
- You know, on and on and on.
- 00:18:35.599 --> 00:18:36.833
- And so we are hiring and so lawyers with at least
- 00:18:36.833 --> 00:18:40.871
- 18 months experience who are interested
- 00:18:40.871 --> 00:18:43.073
- In serving a tour of duty to help their country
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- Can apply at usa jobs.gov and look for civil rights division.
- 00:18:45.842 --> 00:18:50.280
- We are hiring as fast as we can.
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- Qualified candidates who are willing to do the work.
- 00:18:52.282 --> 00:18:55.319
- I just articulated enforce all of our federal civil
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- Rights statutes with a lens of all americans
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- And this administration's priorities.
- 00:19:01.825 --> 00:19:03.594
- You know, i get it. okay.
- 00:19:03.594 --> 00:19:04.995
- It was like let's say it was 83% white country.
- 00:19:04.995 --> 00:19:08.165
- Now we're basically 50%.
- 00:19:08.165 --> 00:19:09.900
- We're on track to, you know, i think the last census had
- 00:19:09.900 --> 00:19:12.736
- Whites at, what, 56, 57% of the population.
- 00:19:12.736 --> 00:19:15.939
- You give that another ten years, it's going to be,
- 00:19:15.939 --> 00:19:18.575
- Probably under 50%, maybe right around 50%.
- 00:19:18.575 --> 00:19:21.845
- I mean, that's what we're kind of like
- 00:19:21.845 --> 00:19:22.980
- Losing every ten years at a ten year clip.
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- When i was, born, i think we were around 80% white still.
- 00:19:25.082 --> 00:19:28.452
- But as this happens, you're going to see,
- 00:19:28.452 --> 00:19:32.022
- I don't know, some of this old way of thinking
- 00:19:32.022 --> 00:19:34.091
- About how white equals bad, oppressive majority.
- 00:19:34.091 --> 00:19:36.693
- Like, it's it's got to necessarily
- 00:19:36.693 --> 00:19:39.763
- We've got to rethink the way this is happening.
- 00:19:39.763 --> 00:19:41.598
- Because if you're just going to say that another
- 00:19:41.598 --> 00:19:43.333
- One of the minorities in this country would like,
- 00:19:43.333 --> 00:19:45.302
- I mean, it might be minority majority, but like, still,
- 00:19:45.302 --> 00:19:48.105
- It's not the same dynamics as it was in the past.
- 00:19:48.105 --> 00:19:51.141
- And and we have to
- 00:19:51.141 --> 00:19:52.242
- We have to make sure everybody is getting protected.
- 00:19:52.242 --> 00:19:54.611
- And one of the ways that you do that sorry.
- 00:19:54.611 --> 00:19:57.014
- If you want to chime in there harmeet, feel free.
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- Yeah. so let me talk about that.
- 00:19:59.650 --> 00:20:01.018
- I mean, like, let's be very frank here.
- 00:20:01.018 --> 00:20:03.086
- We have a history of discrimination in our country.
- 00:20:03.086 --> 00:20:05.622
- There are slaves.
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- They are not white.
- 00:20:06.623 --> 00:20:08.025
- And they were
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- Then kept down
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- By mainly southern but not exclusively southern states.
- 00:20:10.627 --> 00:20:14.264
- And so the civil rights act of 1964 included
- 00:20:14.264 --> 00:20:17.701
- A very important law that i personally use
- 00:20:17.701 --> 00:20:19.636
- For most of my career, title seven, and the supreme court
- 00:20:19.636 --> 00:20:23.373
- In 1971 issued a case called, duke power versus griggs.
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- And this is about a janitor who allegedly was impacted
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- Negatively by some policies and hiring at, duke power.
- 00:20:31.415 --> 00:20:35.185
- And that started this concept of disparate impact.
- 00:20:35.185 --> 00:20:38.255
- So, in other words, you no longer necessarily had to prove
- 00:20:38.255 --> 00:20:41.792
- In your discrimination case, whatever the context was,
- 00:20:41.792 --> 00:20:44.895
- That you were actually being
- 00:20:44.895 --> 00:20:46.396
- The victim of intentional discrimination,
- 00:20:46.396 --> 00:20:48.665
- We have now issued a guidance that says that this 50 years
- 00:20:48.665 --> 00:20:52.235
- Of discrimination against, frankly, law
- 00:20:52.235 --> 00:20:56.406
- Abiding practices in businesses and and recipients is over.
- 00:20:56.406 --> 00:21:00.010
- It is harming a lot of people.
- 00:21:00.010 --> 00:21:01.812
- It is wrong.
- 00:21:01.812 --> 00:21:03.080
- And you should go back to having
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- To prove intentional discrimination.
- 00:21:04.981 --> 00:21:06.616
- By the way, there may be statistical
- 00:21:06.616 --> 00:21:08.352
- Cases to be brought there
- 00:21:08.352 --> 00:21:09.619
- That so we're not banning the use of statistics.
- 00:21:09.619 --> 00:21:12.389
- What we're saying
- 00:21:12.389 --> 00:21:13.457
- Is we're not going to let people use statistics
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- To assume a default of discrimination,
- 00:21:15.859 --> 00:21:18.428
- And people are going to have to prove their cases.
- 00:21:18.428 --> 00:21:20.897
- And that includes the government.
- 00:21:20.897 --> 00:21:21.965
- Sometimes that includes me.
- 00:21:21.965 --> 00:21:23.600
- If i have to bring a case against a school
- 00:21:23.600 --> 00:21:26.770
- District or against a university,
- 00:21:26.770 --> 00:21:29.606
- I have to use my evidence
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- And prove the case, not just have a default
- 00:21:32.743 --> 00:21:35.612
- Assumption of discrimination,
- 00:21:35.612 --> 00:21:36.980
- Because that has hurt so many people in our country.
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- It has eroded merit based hiring.
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- It has put companies on the defensive.
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- It has encouraged and now institutionalized
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- Quotas from every institution,
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- Including the boardrooms
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- Of america's largest corporations,
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- Because they're all government contractors.
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- And so this is so damaging.
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- And if we can just reverse that back
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- To an assumption that americans are good,
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- Generally speaking, we follow the law.
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- If something bad happened to you, prove it
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- With intentional discrimination evidence.
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- I think that is really a great development for all americans.
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- Well, god bless you.
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- Harmeet k dhillon, assistant
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- Attorney general at civil rights, division of the doj.
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- Thank you so much for all your great work.
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- You are crushing it.
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- And we are so, proud to to have you on this show.
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- Go get a job.
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- If you're a lawyer out there, go work with harmeet
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- And help make the country a better place.
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- God bless you. yeah, usa job gov.
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- As this year draws to an end,
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- I'd like to express my
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- Heartfelt gratitude to our partners, the fellowship
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- Of christians and jews.
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- And i'd like to say thank you to our audience
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- Who have supported them in prayer, with finances
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- And standing strong for the people of israel.
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- The fellowship is one of america's
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- Most beloved
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- Organizations, spanning more than 40 years of ministry,
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- Providing tangible help
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- And comfort to the people of israel
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- In the ukraine and across the former soviet union.
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- This holiday season and every day of the year,
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- The fellowship is called to serve
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- The elderly jewish people,
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- Many of whom are holocaust survivors who are now
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- Living in the shadow of past wars, poverty and loneliness.
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- During this christmas time, join me and fulfill
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- The prophet isaiah as cry to comfort.
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- Comfort my people, says your god.
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- To find out how. visit ifg.
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- Org. that's if c.j. dawg.
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