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Charlie Kirk Today | Helen Andrews: May 07, 2026 | Charlie Kirk Today | May 7, 2026
  • We're joined now by one of our favorite writers
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  • And thinkers about the modern state of america.
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  • We're joined by helen andrews.
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  • Helen, are you there?
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  • I am, thanks a lot like to be here.
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  • Great to have you. great to have you.
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  • You can find her work all over the place.
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  • She writes a lot for compact.
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  • She writes a lot of great stuff on x,
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  • And she's the author of the excellent book.
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  • I can highly recommend boomers all about the men and women
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  • Who promised paradise and brought disaster.
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  • I might have mangled the title there i bit,
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  • But helen andrews boomers check it out.
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  • But we wanted
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  • To have you on today for, another worthy topic.
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  • There was
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  • News, in the economic press recently that it happened.
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  • It's happened briefly in the past
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  • During covid, but it's becoming more
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  • Permanent now that more women than men
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  • Are going to work every day, that they're on payrolls.
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  • We're becoming a majority women economy, which has got to be
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  • Basically unprecedented in the western world.
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  • And helen, you're one of the best commentators.
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  • And what does that mean for society?
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  • What world are we building when we have a majority
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  • Of women on payrolls?
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  • You said it.
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  • Unprecedented is the only word for it.
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  • As far back as we have data,
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  • It has been not just it's never happened.
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  • It's been unimaginable that we would have a world
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  • Where more women are employed than men.
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  • It has happened briefly, as you said before,
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  • And little blips, usually around recessions.
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  • It happened after the 2008 financial crisis.
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  • And that's because men were more likely
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  • To be in jobs like construction.
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  • That can be kind of turned off at times of economic crisis.
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  • But then, male employment
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  • Usually rebounds pretty quickly.
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  • The difference this time is that
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  • This is, a more sustainable situation.
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  • Well, not sustainable in the sense
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  • Of, you know, will lead to good outcomes.
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  • But this is this these are long term trends,
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  • Of declining male workforce participation
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  • And what does that mean for our country?
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  • It means bad things
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  • Because this is not a sustainable situation.
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  • When you see the numbers showing
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  • That men are doing really badly in the workforce
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  • And women are doing, comparatively well,
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  • You might think that that's good for women
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  • Because women are earning more money, but it's actually
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  • Bad not just for the men, but even for the women,
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  • Because, data shows that women don't pair off with
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  • Or marry
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  • Men who make less money than they do,
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  • Who are less educated than they are.
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  • They definitely don't pair off
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  • With and marry men who are unemployed.
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  • So if we are now, living in a country
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  • Where most of the time more women have jobs than men,
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  • That spells disaster for marriage rates, birth rates.
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  • And, you know, it's
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  • Kind of a long term sustainability of our society.
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  • Yeah. that's a that's another data point.
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  • I saw,
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  • You were posting about an ex just, the other day that
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  • I think this
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  • Is data from australia, but we're much like australia,
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  • Where overall men still earn more than women on average.
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  • But in that key window where you'd be getting married,
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  • Starting families in your early 20s, we now
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  • Have a female wage premium that women do outearn men
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  • And yet it seems that in our discourse, it's
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  • Still the narrative.
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  • The narrative from politicians is entirely about the wage gap
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  • Hurting women, that we need more initiatives to help women.
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  • But it seems the opposite is true.
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  • We still
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  • We actually have widespread anti male discrimination.
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  • If you
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  • If you run the blind studies they prefer to hire women.
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  • Is that really the case.
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  • Absolutely.
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  • And i think
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  • That's the core fact about this strange new development
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  • To internalize is that it is artificial.
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  • This is not unnatural result of women
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  • Just going out there and kicking butt in the workplace
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  • And being really great employees.
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  • It exists, rising female workforce participation
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  • And greater female promotion in the workplace.
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  • That's not happening naturally.
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  • That's happening because the law incentivizes it.
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  • A few months ago, i wrote, an article
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  • Called the great feminization that went very viral.
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  • And there were a lot of things i said in there
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  • That got me in trouble, with the usual suspects
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  • That were were pretty controversial,
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  • But the line that was objected
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  • To most frequently was where i claimed exactly this.
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  • I said that companies hire
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  • Women that they wouldn't otherwise have hired,
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  • And give women promotions
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  • That would otherwise have gone to men,
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  • Because those companies know if you don't have enough women
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  • In your workforce overall and in your upper management,
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  • That can be grounds for a lawsuit.
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  • The laws against gender discrimination are so loose
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  • That a single disgruntled employee,
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  • Who doesn't think that she's
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  • Gotten ahead the way that she wanted to,
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  • If she can identify a statistical disparity
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  • And can say you have twice as many men as women
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  • In your upper management or whatever
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  • Kind of statistics she can come up with,
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  • If she can bring that to a courtroom and say,
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  • This is proof that this company discriminated against me
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  • As a woman, she has a very good likelihood of success.
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  • So some people out there responding to this article
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  • Doubted that, but it's just absolutely 100% the case.
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  • Companies are very, very worried
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  • About lawsuits, around gender discrimination.
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  • I mean, even goldman sachs had to pay out $215
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  • Million over, a gender discrimination lawsuit.
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  • And goldman sachs
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  • Is obviously not a fly by night corporation.
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  • They have a lot of, you know, they really try and avoid
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  • Any kind of legal liability like that.
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  • But even corporations like that
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  • Are getting stuck with gender discrimination lawsuits.
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  • So companies absolutely do try and boost women
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  • As much as they possibly can to get their numbers up.
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  • And that leads to situations like we have now where
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  • Men are unfairly disadvantaged.
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  • I want to loop.
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  • We had lost andrew for a second, but,
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  • We're bringing andrew, our, co-host, back in here.
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  • Andrew, i'm thinking here, obviously, this is
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  • I think i agree with helen
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  • That this is artificial and it's having big impacts
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  • On marriage and as a result, on fertility.
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  • But i'm really interested in the big long term picture.
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  • If this continues for
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  • Ten years, 20 years, 50 years, what sort of society are we?
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  • Are we going to build it?
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  • Yeah. andrew, what do you think about that?
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  • Well, listen, i mean, i happen to think
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  • Helen andrews is a national treasure.
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  • So whoever's coming after you, helen, i want, i want names,
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  • I want to know because i think what you're
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  • What you've unlocked with this great feminization,
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  • Article in compact magazine, i think will be looked back
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  • At as a massive, massive inflection because
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  • We were able to directly draw a line between wokeism
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  • And the feminization
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  • Of the workforce, of industries, of institutions.
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  • I think the feminist lies pumped into the brains of young
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  • Women is one of the existential
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  • Threats to western civilization.
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  • I think it's like the dark triad.
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  • Basically, it's it's open borders.
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  • It's wokeism.
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  • It's in it's feminism or maybe islam ification
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  • Because woke ism, feminism are redundancies now.
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  • But my point is, helen,
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  • We there's this graph that's been going around everywhere.
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  • Young women have become much more liberal,
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  • While men have basically stayed the same.
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  • I want you to diagnose why this is this is a graph 152.
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  • If you can throw it up. what is behind this
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  • And are these topics we're talking about?
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  • Are they interrelated?
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  • Absolutely.
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  • One of the most fundamental differences
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  • Between men and women
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  • That shows up in study after study is that
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  • Women are more consensus oriented.
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  • When women are deciding, what do i believe?
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  • What do i think about this or that?
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  • They're just more likely to pull their friends to gauge
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  • What the people around them are thinking?
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  • Whereas men are more likely to be individualistic,
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  • A man is much more willing to say, well,
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  • Nobody else
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  • Or none of my peers agree with me on this,
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  • But i've crunched
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  • The numbers in my own head and to my own satisfaction,
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  • And my conscience tells me i think something different.
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  • And that's just going to have
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  • To be okay with everybody around me.
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  • There are lots of evolutionary psychological stories
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  • You could talk
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  • You could talk about in terms of why that's the case,
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  • But that's just demonstrably true.
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  • And the problem with that is that women oh, please go ahead.
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  • Well, i got to take a quick break here.
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  • Because we got this show clock.
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  • But, you know, you've heard of that movie a few good men.
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  • Or when you listen to helen andrews and how much sense
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  • She makes, i think we now need to have a few good women.
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  • And, you are one of them, helen.
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  • So they get mad because they can't handle the truth.
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  • Yeah, because you're too smart for them.
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  • Yeah, because you're too smart for them.
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  • Helen,
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  • I happen to think that one of the big things
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  • That's really going on underneath the surface is that
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  • Women have gotten everything they were told
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  • They were supposed to want, and it's making them miserable
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  • And bitter.
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  • And, there's a podcaster, rachel wilson, author
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  • Of a cult feminism, who said, i thought put it very well.
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  • I want to get your reaction to this clip on the other side.
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  • Sat 21 women just overall reporting dissatisfaction,
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  • Unhappiness, a feeling of, being really torn,
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  • Trying to have it all,
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  • Trying to have a career and be a career
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  • Woman and also have a family and do all of that.
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  • Women don't know what to do with relationships,
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  • Because on the one hand, they want men
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  • Who make more than they do.
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  • They want, men who are higher achieving than they are.
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  • Yet this creates a paradox.
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  • Whereas women
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  • Have become the number one earners of college degrees,
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  • They have, now got salaries that compete with men,
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  • And they've got more equality than ever before.
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  • They're finding that the men are not suitable to marry.
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  • They're finding that, you know,
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  • They just can't find a guy who's on their level or higher,
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  • Which is what they really want.
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  • All right, so here's
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  • The great set up, then, helen, you've got high achieving
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  • Women, at least professionally, who are deeply miserable.
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  • They're on anxiety meds, they're upset, they're bitter,
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  • And the men are not making enough money
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  • Until they're past, like mating age and
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  • And fertility, prime fertility years.
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  • What's the solution? like what?
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  • What what would be your prescription
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  • For how to get us out of this death spiral?
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  • Well, i'm very sensitive to the problem that,
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  • The podcaster that you just showed is talking about.
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  • I'm very lucky.
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  • I've got three kids at home, and right now
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  • I'm in the leaning out phase of my career.
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  • I don't have a day job. i just take care of them.
  • 00:10:47.688 --> 00:10:49.824
  • It's really wonderful.
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  • I really don't want to miss these precious years,
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  • So when you see any high achieving woman who's
  • 00:10:53.627 --> 00:10:57.131
  • Been given a lot of the artificial breaks,
  • 00:10:57.131 --> 00:10:59.967
  • Promotions that might otherwise have gone to a man, you're
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  • You might think that's great for her,
  • 00:11:03.437 --> 00:11:05.740
  • But there are lots of men in the picture.
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  • The men who didn't get those promotions.
  • 00:11:08.142 --> 00:11:10.377
  • And those men probably have wives at home,
  • 00:11:10.377 --> 00:11:14.048
  • Who are wishing that they could stay home
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  • With their own kids,
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  • And have a little lean out phase of their own.
  • 00:11:18.085 --> 00:11:20.154
  • And they can't because their husband
  • 00:11:20.154 --> 00:11:22.022
  • Has been thwarted at work by these, artificial feminist
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  • Rules that make it hard
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  • In terms of what to do about it.
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  • I think fixing student loans
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  • Is probably going to be a big part of the picture.
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  • Most people know that the majority of student
  • 00:11:34.468 --> 00:11:37.004
  • Loans are held by women, but it's not just by a little bit,
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  • It's by a lot.
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  • Two thirds of the student debt out there is held by women.
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  • And a lot of that never gets paid off.
  • 00:11:43.744 --> 00:11:46.781
  • Because these women are in fields
  • 00:11:47.548 --> 00:11:49.617
  • That don't earn a lot of money,
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  • Or they're working in nonprofits,
  • 00:11:50.818 --> 00:11:52.419
  • Which is a field that has student loan debt forgiveness.
  • 00:11:52.419 --> 00:11:55.156
  • So you work at a nonprofit for ten years,
  • 00:11:55.156 --> 00:11:57.091
  • And then your student loans are written off.
  • 00:11:57.091 --> 00:11:59.126
  • So these,
  • 00:11:59.126 --> 00:12:01.529
  • Women are being educated essentially on our dime
  • 00:12:01.529 --> 00:12:05.633
  • Because we, the taxpayer, are, paid to send them to school.
  • 00:12:05.633 --> 00:12:09.103
  • And then they didn't pay us back with that student debt.
  • 00:12:09.103 --> 00:12:12.206
  • So we're subsidizing their educations and their jobs,
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  • And it's creating this imbalance, artificially.
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  • I have a thought, and i wonder what you make of it.
  • 00:12:19.180 --> 00:12:22.316
  • So one result of this that we've seen because
  • 00:12:22.316 --> 00:12:25.119
  • Of this divergence, ideological and economic, is
  • 00:12:25.119 --> 00:12:28.722
  • We have a much wider fertility gap between conservatives
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  • And liberals.
  • 00:12:32.193 --> 00:12:32.860
  • They used to be pretty similar
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  • Now among people, i think in their 30s, conservative
  • 00:12:34.128 --> 00:12:37.631
  • Women are having, i think, twice
  • 00:12:37.631 --> 00:12:38.933
  • As many children as far left liberal women on average.
  • 00:12:38.933 --> 00:12:43.237
  • Do you think that that is going to continue and expand?
  • 00:12:43.237 --> 00:12:46.273
  • And one, is it possible this becomes
  • 00:12:46.273 --> 00:12:49.009
  • Sort of self-correcting that will end up
  • 00:12:49.009 --> 00:12:51.679
  • The future, will be occupied by people who value more
  • 00:12:51.679 --> 00:12:55.049
  • Traditional norms for their own sake.
  • 00:12:55.049 --> 00:12:57.785
  • Or is that not going to be enough?
  • 00:12:57.785 --> 00:13:00.788
  • We need a systemic fix that will enable even liberal
  • 00:13:00.788 --> 00:13:04.458
  • Women to have kids again,
  • 00:13:04.458 --> 00:13:06.627
  • I think you're absolutely right
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  • About this being self-correcting.
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  • I think the people that we have to care about and sort of
  • 00:13:09.997 --> 00:13:14.201
  • Make policy around
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  • Are the people in the middle who are the,
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  • Have conservative dispositions.
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  • They're the people
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  • Who don't really buy into this self extinguishing liberalism.
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  • They like humanity
  • 00:13:23.544 --> 00:13:24.678
  • And want to carry it on, and they want to have kids.
  • 00:13:24.678 --> 00:13:26.981
  • They just feel trapped by the financial incentives
  • 00:13:26.981 --> 00:13:31.085
  • That make it harder for women to take a break
  • 00:13:31.085 --> 00:13:34.154
  • From the workforce and go home and have kids and raise them,
  • 00:13:34.154 --> 00:13:37.057
  • Or to pair off with men in the first place.
  • 00:13:37.057 --> 00:13:39.693
  • So if we just tweak it a little bit,
  • 00:13:39.693 --> 00:13:42.062
  • Make it a little bit easier for women to do that,
  • 00:13:42.062 --> 00:13:44.732
  • And for men to succeed enough to allow women to do that,
  • 00:13:44.732 --> 00:13:47.868
  • Then i think we can take care of those folks in the middle
  • 00:13:47.868 --> 00:13:50.004
  • Who aren't the crazy liberals.
  • 00:13:50.004 --> 00:13:51.538
  • They're just just trying to survive in the crazy world
  • 00:13:51.538 --> 00:13:54.275
  • The liberals have made for the rest of us.
  • 00:13:54.275 --> 00:13:56.543
  • Helen, i mentioned, your book boomers,
  • 00:13:56.543 --> 00:13:59.580
  • Which came out a few years ago.
  • 00:13:59.580 --> 00:14:00.714
  • Very good people should read it. highly entertaining.
  • 00:14:00.714 --> 00:14:02.783
  • You get profiles of, steve jobs and some,
  • 00:14:02.783 --> 00:14:05.886
  • I think, was camille paglia one of them, too?
  • 00:14:05.886 --> 00:14:09.123
  • Yeah. yeah, great.
  • 00:14:09.123 --> 00:14:10.090
  • Great stuff.
  • 00:14:10.090 --> 00:14:10.724
  • Different,
  • 00:14:10.724 --> 00:14:11.992
  • Profiles of the boomer thing, but i thought i'd ask.
  • 00:14:11.992 --> 00:14:14.094
  • We have a couple minutes left.
  • 00:14:14.094 --> 00:14:16.430
  • I know you mentioned not working a day job right now,
  • 00:14:16.430 --> 00:14:19.433
  • But i think you are working on more books in the future.
  • 00:14:19.433 --> 00:14:22.569
  • What's, first of all, what might we be able
  • 00:14:22.569 --> 00:14:25.973
  • To look forward to from you?
  • 00:14:25.973 --> 00:14:27.041
  • What are your big ideas floating around right now?
  • 00:14:27.041 --> 00:14:28.842
  • And also, what are your thoughts on
  • 00:14:28.842 --> 00:14:30.311
  • The general issue of, turning the tide?
  • 00:14:30.311 --> 00:14:33.480
  • Cultural?
  • 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:34.581
  • What do we need to be producing more work like yours
  • 00:14:34.581 --> 00:14:36.684
  • In the conservative sphere?
  • 00:14:36.684 --> 00:14:38.852
  • Well, i am working on a book project.
  • 00:14:39.653 --> 00:14:41.588
  • Good guess.
  • 00:14:41.588 --> 00:14:42.623
  • The nature of it is confidential at this time.
  • 00:14:42.623 --> 00:14:45.359
  • I can't wait till it's ready to share
  • 00:14:45.359 --> 00:14:46.961
  • With everybody, but it's just not.
  • 00:14:46.961 --> 00:14:48.395
  • Come on just yet.
  • 00:14:48.395 --> 00:14:51.098
  • Can you message me privately?
  • 00:14:51.098 --> 00:14:52.433
  • I want to know.
  • 00:14:52.433 --> 00:14:53.267
  • You guys will be the first to know.
  • 00:14:53.267 --> 00:14:55.302
  • I'll give you that breaking story
  • 00:14:55.302 --> 00:14:57.137
  • When it's ready, i promise.
  • 00:14:57.137 --> 00:14:58.472
  • We'd love to help you.
  • 00:14:58.472 --> 00:14:59.373
  • So i, i do think books.
  • 00:14:59.373 --> 00:15:01.342
  • Books are important.
  • 00:15:01.342 --> 00:15:02.409
  • Books are the missing piece right now.
  • 00:15:02.409 --> 00:15:04.144
  • People like you have done such a wonderful job,
  • 00:15:04.144 --> 00:15:07.681
  • Fostering good conservative intellectual work
  • 00:15:07.681 --> 00:15:10.417
  • In the podcasting sphere, in the radio sphere,
  • 00:15:10.417 --> 00:15:12.653
  • Organizing people in real life.
  • 00:15:12.653 --> 00:15:14.922
  • There are some great conservative
  • 00:15:14.922 --> 00:15:16.357
  • Magazines out there,
  • 00:15:16.357 --> 00:15:17.358
  • And i've worked at many of them,
  • 00:15:17.358 --> 00:15:18.592
  • And they do terrific, a terrific job.
  • 00:15:18.592 --> 00:15:20.694
  • The biggest gap
  • 00:15:20.694 --> 00:15:23.063
  • In conservative media, as far as i can see, is books.
  • 00:15:23.063 --> 00:15:27.234
  • So that's what we need more of,
  • 00:15:27.234 --> 00:15:28.769
  • And that's what i'm trying to supply.
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  • Amen, amen.
  • 00:15:31.338 --> 00:15:32.473
  • It's it's very real.
  • 00:15:32.473 --> 00:15:33.907
  • I think there's articles are great,
  • 00:15:33.907 --> 00:15:35.976
  • Segments are great, but there's a real power to
  • 00:15:35.976 --> 00:15:38.545
  • If you can have 200 pages, 300 pages on a specific thing
  • 00:15:38.545 --> 00:15:42.883
  • That can lay out, lay out a narrative.
  • 00:15:42.883 --> 00:15:44.718
  • And we think of how many myths you think of white fragility.
  • 00:15:44.718 --> 00:15:48.355
  • That was a book by robin diangelo.
  • 00:15:48.355 --> 00:15:50.090
  • And suddenly everyone had to read it.
  • 00:15:50.090 --> 00:15:51.525
  • And this was the left wing explanation for the world.
  • 00:15:51.525 --> 00:15:54.094
  • We need to have on the right a book that we can say.
  • 00:15:54.094 --> 00:15:56.597
  • This explains the reality that we're in.
  • 00:15:56.597 --> 00:15:59.066
  • Well,
  • 00:15:59.066 --> 00:16:00.534
  • And i and i just want to say,
  • 00:16:00.534 --> 00:16:02.503
  • Your the, the, the, the article
  • 00:16:02.503 --> 00:16:06.006
  • That we had you on previously about about the workforce
  • 00:16:06.006 --> 00:16:09.743
  • Becoming feminized and becoming woke.
  • 00:16:09.743 --> 00:16:12.379
  • I genuinely believe that is such an important contribution
  • 00:16:12.379 --> 00:16:15.582
  • To the discourse.
  • 00:16:15.582 --> 00:16:16.817
  • I saw there was clips about, adam corolla that i just saw
  • 00:16:16.817 --> 00:16:20.287
  • Talking about it. he was in la.
  • 00:16:20.287 --> 00:16:22.956
  • The people
  • 00:16:23.257 --> 00:16:24.391
  • Had read this article and they're like,
  • 00:16:24.391 --> 00:16:25.959
  • Yeah, of course everybody sent me this, this article.
  • 00:16:25.959 --> 00:16:28.762
  • So what you're doing is truly important.
  • 00:16:28.762 --> 00:16:31.131
  • Helen.
  • 00:16:31.131 --> 00:16:31.965
  • And, i want to underscore again,
  • 00:16:31.965 --> 00:16:34.835
  • I'll reframe my top three.
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  • I think it's open borders, mass migration.
  • 00:16:37.905 --> 00:16:40.774
  • It's feminism and islam ification.
  • 00:16:40.774 --> 00:16:43.577
  • That's my top three threats to western civilization.
  • 00:16:43.577 --> 00:16:46.146
  • And you have a unique ability to to address the feminism one.
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  • So thank you for your contribution.
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  • We'll have you on again
  • 00:16:51.618 --> 00:16:53.053
  • Soon when you could talk about your book. my goodness.
  • 00:16:53.053 --> 00:16:55.189
  • We're waiting on bated breath.
  • 00:16:55.189 --> 00:16:57.691
  • We'll be right back.
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  • We'll be right back.
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  • This blew my mind.
  • 00:17:07.430 --> 00:17:09.165
  • Okay. ted turner.
  • 00:17:09.165 --> 00:17:10.300
  • Okay, so when he passed, we started looking into it.
  • 00:17:10.300 --> 00:17:13.903
  • Blake actually put this in one of our chats,
  • 00:17:13.903 --> 00:17:15.872
  • And i was like, this is extraordinary stuff.
  • 00:17:15.872 --> 00:17:18.274
  • At the same time, mr.
  • 00:17:18.274 --> 00:17:19.876
  • Turner was developing a damaging reputation
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  • For philandering, drunkenness and public misconduct.
  • 00:17:23.012 --> 00:17:26.850
  • His tumultuous first marriage to giuliani, with whom he had
  • 00:17:26.850 --> 00:17:30.286
  • Two children, laura and teddy jr, ended in the early 1960s.
  • 00:17:30.286 --> 00:17:34.557
  • Short. shortly after, mr.
  • 00:17:34.557 --> 00:17:35.925
  • Turner competed against his wife in a yacht race.
  • 00:17:35.925 --> 00:17:40.296
  • Seeing she was on the verge of winning, he rammed
  • 00:17:40.296 --> 00:17:43.366
  • Her boat with his.
  • 00:17:43.366 --> 00:17:46.169
  • That is so savage.
  • 00:17:46.603 --> 00:17:48.872
  • I don't have words for it.
  • 00:17:48.872 --> 00:17:50.440
  • Like ted turner was cut from a different, different cloth.
  • 00:17:50.440 --> 00:17:54.077
  • They broke the mold.
  • 00:17:54.077 --> 00:17:55.111
  • Like i said, he was,
  • 00:17:55.111 --> 00:17:56.312
  • He's the kind of guy
  • 00:17:56.312 --> 00:17:57.413
  • Where you could read ike any story about him,
  • 00:17:57.413 --> 00:17:59.649
  • And it might be a little believable.
  • 00:17:59.649 --> 00:18:00.617
  • So i literally just was looking at
  • 00:18:00.617 --> 00:18:02.018
  • What are fun ted turner stories.
  • 00:18:02.018 --> 00:18:03.586
  • He apparently he owned the atlanta braves.
  • 00:18:03.586 --> 00:18:06.022
  • Notably, he apparently tried to manage them for one
  • 00:18:06.022 --> 00:18:08.892
  • Night, a game they lost.
  • 00:18:08.892 --> 00:18:10.326
  • And then major league baseball came in and said,
  • 00:18:10.326 --> 00:18:12.829
  • You are the owner.
  • 00:18:12.829 --> 00:18:13.696
  • You are not allowed
  • 00:18:13.696 --> 00:18:14.797
  • To keep doing that, which i'm very disappointed in.
  • 00:18:14.797 --> 00:18:17.467
  • They 100% should have let him keep managing the team.
  • 00:18:17.467 --> 00:18:20.737
  • That would be, that would have been highly entertaining.
  • 00:18:20.737 --> 00:18:23.439
  • You can see why he also went into pro wrestling.
  • 00:18:23.439 --> 00:18:26.709
  • He he funded the movie.
  • 00:18:26.709 --> 00:18:28.978
  • I believe he funded the movie
  • 00:18:28.978 --> 00:18:29.946
  • Gettysburg for anyone who liked that.
  • 00:18:29.946 --> 00:18:31.414
  • He was a big fan of american history.
  • 00:18:31.414 --> 00:18:33.249
  • Great film of our civil war heritage.
  • 00:18:33.249 --> 00:18:34.984
  • So obviously we have a lot of differences with him.
  • 00:18:34.984 --> 00:18:37.554
  • Creating cnn is a big one.
  • 00:18:37.554 --> 00:18:39.522
  • He was very well.
  • 00:18:39.522 --> 00:18:40.757
  • He criticized
  • 00:18:40.757 --> 00:18:41.491
  • The life supporters a lot,
  • 00:18:41.491 --> 00:18:42.692
  • But i do like his appreciation of our history.
  • 00:18:42.692 --> 00:18:45.695
  • Well, so president trump's truth address is the cnn thing,
  • 00:18:45.695 --> 00:18:49.899
  • Said ted turner, one of the greats of all time just died.
  • 00:18:49.899 --> 00:18:53.369
  • He founded cnn, sold it, and was personally devastated
  • 00:18:53.369 --> 00:18:57.473
  • By the deal
  • 00:18:57.473 --> 00:18:58.675
  • Because the new ownership took cnn his baby and destroyed it.
  • 00:18:58.675 --> 00:19:01.811
  • It became woke and everything that he is not all about.
  • 00:19:01.811 --> 00:19:05.181
  • Maybe the new buyers, wonderful
  • 00:19:05.181 --> 00:19:06.449
  • People, will be able to bring it back
  • 00:19:06.449 --> 00:19:07.750
  • To its former credibility and glory regardless.
  • 00:19:07.750 --> 00:19:10.320
  • However, one of the great,
  • 00:19:10.320 --> 00:19:11.521
  • Greats of broadcast history and a friend of mine,
  • 00:19:11.521 --> 00:19:14.190
  • Whenever i needed him, he was there,
  • 00:19:14.190 --> 00:19:15.892
  • Always willing to fight for a good cause.
  • 00:19:15.892 --> 00:19:17.560
  • President donald j. trump.
  • 00:19:17.560 --> 00:19:19.596
  • So he he addressed this.
  • 00:19:19.596 --> 00:19:20.964
  • I mean, because cnn is what i think of with ted turner.
  • 00:19:20.964 --> 00:19:24.133
  • I don't think about tbs or tnt or any of that stuff.
  • 00:19:24.133 --> 00:19:28.137
  • I think cnn and, you know, it's
  • 00:19:28.137 --> 00:19:31.140
  • It's probably not his, his, favorite piece of his legacy.
  • 00:19:31.140 --> 00:19:34.777
  • But, rest in peace to ted turner.
  • 00:19:34.777 --> 00:19:37.947
  • Are there any other,
  • 00:19:37.947 --> 00:19:38.881
  • Fun stories you uncovered there, blake?
  • 00:19:38.881 --> 00:19:40.416
  • Let me see you. what else do we have?
  • 00:19:40.416 --> 00:19:42.318
  • The story is just the yacht story is really incredible.
  • 00:19:42.318 --> 00:19:46.289
  • He. i think he helped us reclaim the america's cup.
  • 00:19:46.289 --> 00:19:48.758
  • He was.
  • 00:19:48.758 --> 00:19:49.626
  • He didn't just ram his wife, scott.
  • 00:19:49.626 --> 00:19:51.594
  • He also beat
  • 00:19:51.594 --> 00:19:52.495
  • Sinister australian yachts to reclaim
  • 00:19:52.495 --> 00:19:54.998
  • Major yachting trophies.
  • 00:19:54.998 --> 00:19:56.432
  • I like the story about cnn.
  • 00:19:56.432 --> 00:19:58.067
  • When they went on air, he said they would keep broadcasting.
  • 00:19:58.067 --> 00:20:00.903
  • They opened with the star spangled banner,
  • 00:20:00.903 --> 00:20:02.438
  • And then he said, we will keep broadcasting
  • 00:20:02.438 --> 00:20:04.107
  • Until the end of the world.
  • 00:20:04.107 --> 00:20:05.308
  • So they have a video in the cnn archives,
  • 00:20:05.308 --> 00:20:08.378
  • Which is the marine corps band, playing taps.
  • 00:20:08.378 --> 00:20:10.580
  • And it says on it
  • 00:20:10.580 --> 00:20:11.814
  • Only play this if the world is about to end.
  • 00:20:11.814 --> 00:20:14.150
  • And so if we're ever facing armageddon, if,
  • 00:20:14.150 --> 00:20:18.488
  • You know, the world is about to explode,
  • 00:20:18.488 --> 00:20:20.123
  • We will, we'll we'll be able to see that clip on cnn.
  • 00:20:20.123 --> 00:20:22.925
  • Not that any of us would want to spend
  • 00:20:22.925 --> 00:20:24.427
  • Our last moments watching cnn.
  • 00:20:24.427 --> 00:20:25.828
  • I suspect.
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  • You know, he seems to me cut from that old that old mold.
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  • You know, it's like, you
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  • You kind of get a sense of the gilded age,
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  • Those american, men of industry, of
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  • Of great wealth
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  • That actually poured
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  • Their money back into the into the country
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  • That cared about its founding values.
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  • A real titan, an aggressive individual,
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  • That was wildly creative, wildly pioneering,
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  • And was willing to take massive risks and, you know,
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  • It's interesting.
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  • You know, we're just talking with mike collins,
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  • And he said he was in southern georgia.
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  • I've been to southern georgia once,
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  • And i was actually near a, town called thomasville,
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  • Which is famous for being surrounded by these,
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  • Huge, huge properties that are they don't even have
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  • Roads on them.
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  • There's some of the biggest undeveloped parcels of land
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  • In the country, like 100,000 acre parcels kind of thing.
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  • And you do hunting and like kind of in the old mall mode.
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  • And i actually went to one of them to do a hunt,
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  • And it was i found out it was previously owned by ted turner.
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  • So, i know
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  • And apparently there was all sorts of wild stories.
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  • He would go visit the property like twice a year to
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  • Do these big quail hunts.
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  • And they do it with dogs and
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  • Foxes, and they, they have people that hand
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  • You the gun and load it for you.
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  • I mean, it's
  • 00:21:43.206 --> 00:21:44.374
  • Kind of like old english style down there in thomasville.
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  • And he used to own one of those properties.
  • 00:21:46.342 --> 00:21:47.877
  • So it just absolutely never ending, almost,
  • 00:21:47.877 --> 00:21:51.547
  • Insatiable, insatiable, desire.
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  • And appetite for new adventures.
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  • And really, you know, for all of his faults,
  • 00:21:56.152 --> 00:21:59.956
  • Which it appears there were many
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  • You have to admire that just pure americana,
  • 00:22:01.858 --> 00:22:04.861
  • That drive,
  • 00:22:04.861 --> 00:22:06.095
  • That man of industry that that animated so much of his life.
  • 00:22:06.095 --> 00:22:09.599
  • And you could tell that that's why president trump likes him.
  • 00:22:09.599 --> 00:22:12.735
  • And 100% he's you can see this world
  • 00:22:12.735 --> 00:22:15.438
  • Where i mean, you could listen, he was once
  • 00:22:15.438 --> 00:22:17.140
  • The largest private landowner in the united states.
  • 00:22:17.140 --> 00:22:19.075
  • He really popularized
  • 00:22:19.075 --> 00:22:20.510
  • The bison, you know, because he wanted bison burgers
  • 00:22:20.510 --> 00:22:23.679
  • For, a restaurant chain that he created
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  • One thing after another and one you can see.
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  • This used to be, i think more of america's
  • 00:22:30.520 --> 00:22:32.588
  • Tycoons were like this.
  • 00:22:32.588 --> 00:22:33.656
  • If you read american history, the the
  • 00:22:33.656 --> 00:22:35.391
  • The hunt brothers, for example, have this flamboyant streak.
  • 00:22:35.391 --> 00:22:38.628
  • Carnegie rockefeller they were very is centric.
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  • Today we have elon musk is a little like this
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  • And of course, donald trump himself is like this.
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  • You could imagine a world where
  • 00:22:46.102 --> 00:22:47.537
  • Ted turner maybe was a donald trump
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  • Like figure, but running on the center left,
  • 00:22:50.039 --> 00:22:53.109
  • You obviously we disagree with him on a lot of things,
  • 00:22:53.109 --> 00:22:55.778
  • But he's the sort of character who made america america.
  • 00:22:55.778 --> 00:22:59.315
  • And so, you know, as he's passed
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  • On, we should remember him for that.
  • 00:23:01.317 --> 00:23:03.286
  • Well, this is why we ultimately,
  • 00:23:03.286 --> 00:23:04.754
  • You know, have a special place
  • 00:23:04.754 --> 00:23:06.756
  • In our heart for president trump.
  • 00:23:06.756 --> 00:23:08.057
  • He's kind of that he's he you know,
  • 00:23:08.057 --> 00:23:09.725
  • Maybe he trump is the last of a of a of a breed.
  • 00:23:09.725 --> 00:23:12.795
  • So to speak.
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  • It was been a fun show.
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  • Thank you to real america's voice
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  • For hosting me in their d.c. studio.
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  • I will be here again tomorrow.
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  • Until then, thanks.
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  • It was great show. blake, talk to you guys tomorrow.
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