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Charlie Kirk Today | Isabel Brown: April 7, 2026 | Charlie Kirk Today | April 7, 2026
- Blake, that was the big news over the weekend.
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- This rescue mission, we had the f-15 e
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- That was shot down in iran, and then we got one.
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- We got the pilot back.
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- But the wizo is a new term that everybody now is aware of,
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- Which is the weapon systems operator was not,
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- Rescued or recovered immediately.
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- And it was this harrowing, almost two day journey
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- Where we learned that this gentleman
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- Hiked up a 7000ft mountainous region in iran.
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- He climbed into a crevice and then activated his beacon.
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- He was injured while doing all of this.
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- Then the united states military was concerned
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- That it could have been a ploy
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- By the iranians to lure in more american troops.
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- They then determined that it was not that it was
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- Actually the authentic beacon from this wizo, this,
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- Weapon systems operator, a colonel.
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- They then proceed to initiate a recovery mission, the likes
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- Of which i have never heard of in living memory.
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- At least
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- It was absolutely remarkable the details of this story.
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- Blake, i don't know if you have any
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- Thoughts before we play some of the
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- The play by play here, but we lost some aircraft.
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- But what we also established is that the united states
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- Military will leave no man behind.
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- I don't care what you think of operation epic fury.
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- What these brave men and women did in our military
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- Was absolutely amazing, heroic.
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- And i, you know, i think, former centcom
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- Commander, retired general frank mckenzie, said it.
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- And i think he said it really well, listen,
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- It takes one year to build a military aircraft.
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- It takes 200 years to establish
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- A culture where we leave no american servicemen behind.
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- And i think that's beautiful, but.
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- Oh, absolutely.
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- It's, it's a big win for the armed forces,
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- No matter how you put it.
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- It apparently, yeah.
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- We lost a lot of equipment, and you find people
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- Dunking on us for this, but that really is the message.
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- There's something very special about a country
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- That will sacrifice a bunch of equipment to get one pilot.
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- It's, very great for the morale of our own
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- Soldiers to know that they're treated as valuable.
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- And it's demoralizing to the enemy.
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- They, had an american in their own territory,
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- Deep in their own territory, and they're shown
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- They don't have mastery of it.
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- They don't have control of it.
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- Apparently, they were offering, like, a $30,000
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- Reward or thereabouts for catching him,
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- And they were unable to do so, or so it seems.
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- Well, that's that's what's so funny about this.
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- So danny was actually showing me
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- A bunch of these, european twitter takes.
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- Takes.
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- And they were they were creating giant european.
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- We should put that in quotes. well, exactly.
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- Who knows?
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- Who knows where these people are from?
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- What bot farm in pakistan they're from, actually.
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- But, you know, the european mind was unable to grasp
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- That we would be willing to sacrifice
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- Military equipment to save one serviceman.
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- And that's the that's the amazing part about this
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- Is that we have established a culture where,
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- Yeah, there it is.
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- It's they can't imagine that we would sacrifice equipment
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- To save one man.
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- And i want to also underscore the fact that it wasn't
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- Just about one man.
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- This was about this was about,
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- The fact that we are demoralizing the enemy.
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- Imagine if this, weapon systems operator
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- Would have been captured,
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- The added leverage that they would have had over
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- President trump and the trump administration
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- Is we're trying to negotiate a potential peace.
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- We're hearing
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- Rumors of a 45 day peace plan that's going back and forth.
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- President trump is saying, hey, you got 48 hours.
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- He extended that, to, i believe, 8 p.m.
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- Eastern, tuesday.
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- So he's giving them time.
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- And it sounds like president
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- Trump is willing to start targeting additional targets.
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- That would be more infrastructure based
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- Bridges, power plants, this sort of thing.
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- I want to i, i'm hoping and praying that this is just,
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- Saber rattling.
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- We should probably read the message.
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- It's, it was quite colorful.
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- We can't read all of it, but this was the president's
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- Easter message.
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- Tuesday will be power
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- Plant day and bridge day all wrapped up in one.
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- In iran, there will be nothing like it.
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- Open the expletive straight,
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- You crazy bastards, or you'll be living in hell.
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- Just watch.
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- And, slight eyebrow raise, he said.
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- Praise be to allah at the end of it.
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- That that might be the, that might be one of the most.
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- That's probably in the top ten of strange trump tweets.
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- Highly memorable one.
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- But he was certainly sending the message that he
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- He remains prepared to blow things up.
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- Yeah.
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- Well, and listen, i, i,
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- I hope, like i said, for the sake of the iranian
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- People in the future, that this is saber rattling,
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- That president trump here's, here's, here's the leverage
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- As i see it, this is
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- You've got
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- The iranians who clearly understand
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- That the patience of the american people will wear thin
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- If this drags out.
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- President trump seems to know that there was clips of him
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- During this, easter egg roll at the white house
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- Where he's saying, listen, i would love to take the oil,
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- But i want to get out.
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- The american people don't understand that
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- Because and i want to keep the american people happy.
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- So we're, you know, we're going to get out.
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- So the iranian people, the iranian regime,
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- I should say, understands
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- That there is a time limit to our patience here
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- And the amount of leash that we're given the president.
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- And there's political calculations now.
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- So they're basically saying
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- We're going to hunker in, our leaders
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- Are going to continue getting killed.
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- We're going to get all this stuff blown to smithereens.
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- We're just going to wait it out,
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- And there's not much you can do about it.
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- The leverage point that president trump has
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- Is that we have air superiority, air dominance.
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- We're going to blow up a bunch of stuff.
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- And in essence, they're their, linchpin
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- Here is the strait of hormuz that they think that they can,
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- Use that to keep leverage over the entire world.
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- So there is this push pull here,
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- And we're not sure where it's going to work out
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- And where it's going to end up.
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- But hopefully saner minds will come to the fore
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- And we'll get a peace deal.
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- I'm not sure that, as you say, all the time, blake,
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- You can you can choose when you start a war.
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- You can't always choose when you get out of it.
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- And the strait of hormuz being this point of leverage
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- That they have over the united states
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- Is a huge point of leverage.
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- It's a huge a huge obstacle to getting this done.
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- And, you know, the problem
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- With the strait of hormuz is you can block it
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- With relatively unsophisticated means.
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- Small boats that float around drop mines,
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- And then you lock down 20% of the world's oil trade.
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- That's that's been the whole problem with the war.
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- It's been,
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- You know, we have to lob missiles that cost $50 million.
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- But a lot of modern warfare is mines
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- You can make for a few thousand dollars.
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- Drones that are the price of a honda civic.
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- And it's a lot of it is about how much,
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- How quickly you can manufacture things,
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- How quickly you can get them to the front.
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- And so we're we're seeing that challenge unfold.
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- But hopefully we're on the brink of a peace deal.
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- But easter is a time of making peace.
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- So hopefully that message might even spread to
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- The mountains of iran.
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- Was truly, truly historic.
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- It i mean, again, whatever you think of this conflict,
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- What our men and women, in service in the, in the military
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- Did here was truly, truly remarkable.
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- Special forces up and down the line.
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- Special forces up and down the line.
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- All right isabel, welcome back to the charlie kirk show.
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- It's good to see you.
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- You and
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- I were cracking up over text because i just felt like
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- You got yourself embroiled in one of those classic charlie
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- Controversies where you said something like, pretty based,
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- And then
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- You got featured on the view,
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- And i was like, what are they like?
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- Isabel, this is like, great pr this is wonderful for isabel
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- Because you had the great take.
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- So i just we knew we had to get it.
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- It we our schedules were not, overlapping perfectly.
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- So now we got you here. but i think it was so great.
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- So i got to start with the clip, and we'll get
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- We'll have you fill in the blanks.
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- If there was anything left unsaid. saturnine.
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- You're not encouraging your children to grow up
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- And have the courage to get married
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- And have kids, more kids
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- Than they can afford before they think they're ready.
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- It is high time to start.
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- It is these choices, like deleting our dating apps
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- And putting birth
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- Control pills and saying i do at the altar.
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- That ultimately trickled down into the political policies
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- That we will see save our country.
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- You're such a chauvinist, isabel.
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- What are you trying to say here?
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- Well, i right?
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- Yeah. fill in the blanks here for us.
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- Well, andrew, as you can see, that was a clip
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- Taken from cpac, which happened a little over a week ago
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- Now, and i was asked to speak on a panel
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- With four people total, all women, about the importance
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- Of the family as the center of american society.
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- It's hardly a new topic or particularly
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- A controversial one in the conservative movement,
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- Especially, as, you know, with charlie
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- Refocusing conservatism really on that foundation
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- Of faith and family over these past few years.
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- For young people,
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- That was the last answer that
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- I gave on a 30 minute panel to the last question,
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- Asking me
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- To give a message to the audience of advice
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- For how to save american culture.
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- If you've ever been to c pac,
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- You'll probably know that the average age in
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- The audience is a little bit older than myself.
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- So i was speaking to people my parents age
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- And saying, hey, you need to tell your adult
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- Children the real way
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- We're going to save our country is to have the courage
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- To fall in love and get married.
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- I had no idea this was going to be
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- Such a controversy across our country.
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- I certainly never thought
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- The view would be taking it up for an entire segment.
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- But a week ago today, i logged on after receiving
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- A dm from a reporter asking me to comment
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- On what the view had to say and learned.
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- The ladies of the left
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- Are so deeply offended by the idea of having children.
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- If you remotely suggest this, good luck to you.
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- You'll be smeared all over national television.
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- Yeah, well,
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- They they said that
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- You were wrapping up a woman's worth into her ovaries,
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- Which, you know, is it.
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- Take, saturn. what?
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- What is she.
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- What the what what what what what?
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- Well, so my ultimate beef with this
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- Is that it wraps a woman's worth up in her ovaries.
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- The fact that we keep putting this on women,
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- That their only worth in society, politics, policies
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- Is if they produce a baby or have a husband
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- Is the stupidest,
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- Most old fashioned thing we have come too far
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- Is the call to responsibility for the men
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- Who make me, who help make these children right.
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- I am.
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- I don't know why.
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- It's always people lecturing women what they have to do.
- 00:10:49.573 --> 00:10:54.511
- Bottom line, if you're not paying my bills,
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- You don't get to tell me what i do with my uterus.
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- I don't know.
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- Ana navarro is probably like, please don't procreate.
- 00:11:00.784 --> 00:11:03.386
- That if you're if you're like that,
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- We're not suggesting you should procreate.
- 00:11:04.921 --> 00:11:07.891
- What do you take about this?
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- This whole.
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- Because it kind of it gives way to a larger discussion
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- About a woman's role in society right now.
- 00:11:13.964 --> 00:11:17.501
- I would think that, you know, you you do a podcast,
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- But that gives you
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- A lot of leeway and flexibility with your schedule
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- To be basically a stay at home mom who does work, obviously.
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- But explain this dynamic for people at home that,
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- That don't understand the controversy.
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- Yeah.
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- Well, first,
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- I'll just address some of those comments
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- Right there,
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- Because every time i hear
- 00:11:36.486 --> 00:11:37.621
- This clip replayed over and over, the more frustrated
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- I get.
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- First of all, obviously never said a woman's only worth
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- Is wrapped up in our reproductive system.
- 00:11:43.794 --> 00:11:46.096
- But i do think that we treat women and pregnancy
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- The most beautiful thing that women get to experience.
- 00:11:49.132 --> 00:11:51.568
- The only time that humanity is invited
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- Into creating new life right alongside god.
- 00:11:54.371 --> 00:11:57.574
- We treat this as something like a disability or something
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- That's going to destroy the rest of your life.
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- It's going to maybe kill you.
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- That's certainly how it's presented
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- On tiktok to the women of my generation,
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- Instead of what it really is.
- 00:12:07.951 --> 00:12:09.519
- And that's a super power.
- 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:10.787
- Like, nothing would make me happier.
- 00:12:10.787 --> 00:12:12.422
- Having experienced pregnancy, childbirth,
- 00:12:12.422 --> 00:12:14.424
- And raising my daughter through her first year of life
- 00:12:14.424 --> 00:12:16.760
- This last year,
- 00:12:16.760 --> 00:12:17.861
- Nothing would make me happier than seeing more women
- 00:12:17.861 --> 00:12:20.297
- Encouraged to embrace this joy, this purpose and fulfillment
- 00:12:20.297 --> 00:12:23.967
- That is unlike anything else that humanity really
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- Has to offer.
- 00:12:26.503 --> 00:12:27.437
- It's not a disability, it's a super power.
- 00:12:27.437 --> 00:12:29.539
- That said, i think it's been funny
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- This last week
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- To see how many people are upset with me
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- For what i had to say from various angles.
- 00:12:33.677 --> 00:12:35.645
- For some,
- 00:12:35.645 --> 00:12:36.813
- I'm this extreme trad wife that's barefoot and pregnant
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- In the kitchen.
- 00:12:40.150 --> 00:12:40.784
- And how dare she say
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- That people can balance both,
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- And nobody ultimately will be happy with this.
- 00:12:43.453 --> 00:12:45.589
- But i really do
- 00:12:45.589 --> 00:12:46.790
- Think that we are underselling women's capacity for greatness
- 00:12:46.790 --> 00:12:50.493
- So much in the modern discourse about motherhood
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- Is having both extremely difficult. yes.
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- And there will be sacrifices that have to be
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- Made along the way to prioritize your family,
- 00:12:58.268 --> 00:13:00.904
- Which, of course is the most important thing,
- 00:13:00.904 --> 00:13:02.672
- Far more important to your life than a paycheck.
- 00:13:02.672 --> 00:13:05.208
- But to tell women that it's impossible for them
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- When they're facing pregnancy in their life,
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- To graduate from college, or to start their own business,
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- Or to be a successful attorney or politician or doctor.
- 00:13:12.616 --> 00:13:15.852
- That's just not true, objectively.
- 00:13:15.852 --> 00:13:18.121
- And i think we should be speaking life
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- Into this next generation of women
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- The same way that charlie spoke so much life into my family
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- And my husband and i,
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- That it takes a great team to raise a beautiful family.
- 00:13:25.562 --> 00:13:28.365
- But it's possible. and it's worthy
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- For saving society for the next generation.
- 00:13:30.533 --> 00:13:33.003
- Not just, yeah,
- 00:13:33.003 --> 00:13:33.837
- Not just possible, but literally
- 00:13:33.837 --> 00:13:35.672
- The future will only belong to the people who show up for it.
- 00:13:35.672 --> 00:13:39.576
- And i just find it bizarre that you've encountered
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- This sort of hostility,
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- And you try to get inside the head of the ladies
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- At the viewer or wherever, and you ask,
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- What do they envision society looking like in 50 years
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- Or 100 years, or a thousand years,
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- If they're going to have this
- 00:13:54.991 --> 00:13:56.092
- Attitude that motherhood and parenting and families
- 00:13:56.092 --> 00:13:59.796
- Are this optional lifestyle accessory that
- 00:13:59.796 --> 00:14:03.233
- Apparently most people don't need to go for.
- 00:14:03.233 --> 00:14:06.369
- That's a great question, and honestly worth asking,
- 00:14:06.369 --> 00:14:08.672
- Because every single one of the women
- 00:14:08.672 --> 00:14:10.774
- Sitting around that table last week
- 00:14:10.774 --> 00:14:12.342
- Smearing me for being a mom and encouraging other
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- Gen z women to become moms is a mother themselves.
- 00:14:14.611 --> 00:14:17.681
- They have children,
- 00:14:17.681 --> 00:14:18.748
- And they have these beautiful, thriving careers
- 00:14:18.748 --> 00:14:21.017
- Where they get to sit on multi-million dollar
- 00:14:21.017 --> 00:14:22.986
- Beautiful sets in new york.
- 00:14:22.986 --> 00:14:24.521
- Just beautiful is, is an adjective i'm
- 00:14:24.521 --> 00:14:26.556
- Not sure i would use for it, but that's fine.
- 00:14:26.556 --> 00:14:28.224
- They have careers.
- 00:14:28.224 --> 00:14:29.993
- And maybe it's an argument against women having careers.
- 00:14:29.993 --> 00:14:32.162
- You ever think of that? ladies of the view?
- 00:14:32.162 --> 00:14:33.863
- Maybe you're enough.
- 00:14:33.863 --> 00:14:34.698
- Maybe you're a
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- Living embodiment against it.
- 00:14:36.499 --> 00:14:38.134
- So i do want to play you reference charlie.
- 00:14:38.134 --> 00:14:40.403
- So let's let's, this is his show.
- 00:14:40.403 --> 00:14:43.006
- It will always be his show. sat 22
- 00:14:43.006 --> 00:14:45.575
- Children is more important than having a good career.
- 00:14:45.575 --> 00:14:47.143
- I have two kids.
- 00:14:47.143 --> 00:14:48.044
- I also have an amazingly blessed career.
- 00:14:48.044 --> 00:14:49.980
- Our podcast is doing great,
- 00:14:49.980 --> 00:14:51.114
- But my kids matter way more than
- 00:14:51.114 --> 00:14:53.016
- How many social media followers that i have.
- 00:14:53.016 --> 00:14:54.751
- And i would also tell young ladies,
- 00:14:54.751 --> 00:14:56.286
- You can always go back to your career later
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- That there is a window
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- Where you primarily should pursue marriage
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- And having children, and that is a beautiful thing.
- 00:15:02.225 --> 00:15:03.893
- This is not about shaming.
- 00:15:03.893 --> 00:15:05.095
- It's not about ridiculing. it's i'm about moralizing.
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- It's about lifting up what is beautiful.
- 00:15:07.330 --> 00:15:09.699
- And by the way,
- 00:15:09.699 --> 00:15:10.934
- We look at the mental health data, young women are not okay.
- 00:15:10.934 --> 00:15:13.603
- Half that is right.
- 00:15:13.603 --> 00:15:14.637
- Half of liberal white women say that they have
- 00:15:14.637 --> 00:15:17.273
- Some form of mental health issue
- 00:15:17.273 --> 00:15:19.075
- That has been diagnosed by a doctor.
- 00:15:19.075 --> 00:15:21.311
- What is the number one thing that mental health
- 00:15:21.311 --> 00:15:23.413
- Professionals will tell you
- 00:15:23.413 --> 00:15:24.280
- When it comes to mental health issues?
- 00:15:24.280 --> 00:15:25.582
- Loneliness does not help.
- 00:15:25.582 --> 00:15:27.117
- So maybe we should solve the loneliness epidemic
- 00:15:27.117 --> 00:15:28.785
- By encouraging young ladies to get married and have children.
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- It's good for them.
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- It's good for america,
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- And it's good
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- For our future. it's and it's kind of why
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- I reference your particular career.
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- I do think
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- There are some careers that lend themselves
- 00:15:38.862 --> 00:15:39.929
- Well to still being a mom and not.
- 00:15:39.929 --> 00:15:42.098
- But when we kind of imagine the average
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- You, let's say middle management in a cubicle
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- Like that's really hard to still be raising your kids.
- 00:15:47.404 --> 00:15:49.773
- And when we look at the life cycle of a mom, you graduate,
- 00:15:49.773 --> 00:15:54.110
- You're not married, you don't or you're not married yet.
- 00:15:54.110 --> 00:15:56.046
- Right?
- 00:15:56.046 --> 00:15:57.113
- You you're you're probably looking for a career.
- 00:15:57.113 --> 00:15:59.682
- You start a career, but then you have a family, right?
- 00:15:59.682 --> 00:16:02.218
- And there's this window.
- 00:16:02.218 --> 00:16:03.686
- And it's so short when you start having families.
- 00:16:03.686 --> 00:16:06.356
- I mean, i've got three little kids
- 00:16:06.356 --> 00:16:08.224
- That the window and i can already tell
- 00:16:08.224 --> 00:16:09.826
- From my eight year old daughter
- 00:16:09.826 --> 00:16:10.860
- That it's like it's such a short window
- 00:16:10.860 --> 00:16:13.096
- When they're really little and really reliant on you
- 00:16:13.096 --> 00:16:15.899
- And when they need you around all the time.
- 00:16:15.899 --> 00:16:17.667
- And i just think, listen, if it's a five year gap,
- 00:16:17.667 --> 00:16:20.570
- If it's a ten year gap, what could be more important
- 00:16:20.570 --> 00:16:23.606
- And valuable than a mom devoting her life
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- To, to raising her children and her husband children?
- 00:16:26.776 --> 00:16:30.613
- I want to get into that because this seems to be
- 00:16:30.613 --> 00:16:32.615
- Where all of this goes to
- 00:16:32.615 --> 00:16:34.017
- Is this work life balance situation.
- 00:16:34.017 --> 00:16:39.008
- Is this work life balance situation.
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- We are continuing on with
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- Isabel brown, host of the isabel brown show.
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- You can find out on x and all the socials instagrams.
- 00:16:49.532 --> 00:16:52.769
- You're very good at that.
- 00:16:52.769 --> 00:16:53.670
- And tiktok, you were one of the people
- 00:16:53.670 --> 00:16:55.138
- That encouraged charlie get on on tiktok.
- 00:16:55.138 --> 00:16:57.407
- It was a big it was a bad kick in, the kick in the rear.
- 00:16:57.407 --> 00:17:00.543
- He didn't want to do it at first
- 00:17:00.543 --> 00:17:01.678
- And then, it became quite the thing.
- 00:17:01.678 --> 00:17:03.780
- So kudos to you.
- 00:17:03.780 --> 00:17:05.248
- So because we got to meet
- 00:17:05.248 --> 00:17:06.716
- Students where they're at and a lot of them are on, tiktok.
- 00:17:06.716 --> 00:17:09.252
- So let's get back to this
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- Conversation about work life balance.
- 00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:13.089
- And because
- 00:17:13.089 --> 00:17:14.424
- There's a certain wing of the conservative movement
- 00:17:14.424 --> 00:17:16.860
- That's like, listen,
- 00:17:16.860 --> 00:17:17.861
- If you're not encouraging women to stay at home
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- And raise their children, you're
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- You're not conservative at all.
- 00:17:21.197 --> 00:17:23.166
- And then there's this other wing.
- 00:17:23.166 --> 00:17:24.534
- You know, i got i had kind of a back and forth
- 00:17:24.534 --> 00:17:26.302
- Lisa boos actually from fox news where
- 00:17:26.302 --> 00:17:28.571
- I guess she doesn't have kids.
- 00:17:28.571 --> 00:17:30.106
- And she was saying that that pov is turning off
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- Women in the conservative movement.
- 00:17:33.143 --> 00:17:34.544
- So where
- 00:17:34.544 --> 00:17:35.678
- How do we strike a balance here that actually resembles
- 00:17:35.678 --> 00:17:37.847
- Pragmatic ism?
- 00:17:38.181 --> 00:17:39.015
- The truth lived experience?
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- I think that's an important nuance to your question
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- About turning off or turning on women
- 00:17:43.620 --> 00:17:45.488
- In the conservative movement, because truly, in 2026,
- 00:17:45.488 --> 00:17:48.858
- It is so, so important for us
- 00:17:48.858 --> 00:17:50.660
- To be strategic in how we are messaging to young women.
- 00:17:50.660 --> 00:17:53.696
- Young men of my generation have been incredibly privileged
- 00:17:53.696 --> 00:17:56.533
- To have the voices of charlie kirk,
- 00:17:56.533 --> 00:17:58.368
- And i'm thinking of other men like brandon tatum
- 00:17:58.368 --> 00:18:00.470
- And matt walsh and michael knowles, jordan peterson,
- 00:18:00.470 --> 00:18:02.705
- People who have been
- 00:18:02.705 --> 00:18:03.706
- Feeding into masculinity and reviving god given
- 00:18:03.706 --> 00:18:06.476
- Manhood for the last several years, really decade or so.
- 00:18:06.476 --> 00:18:09.546
- And culture, women have yet to really have that upswing.
- 00:18:09.546 --> 00:18:12.982
- And you're watching the cultural attack on womanhood
- 00:18:12.982 --> 00:18:15.785
- Gets so much stronger
- 00:18:15.785 --> 00:18:16.986
- And so much louder than it ever was.
- 00:18:16.986 --> 00:18:18.821
- Calling masculinity toxic.
- 00:18:18.821 --> 00:18:20.557
- For us, it's erasing womanhood altogether,
- 00:18:20.557 --> 00:18:23.193
- Calling you a birthing person trying to outsource
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- Pregnancy to birth robots
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- They're currently making in china,
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- Making new babies in petri
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- Dishes, in laboratories and startup companies
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- In san francisco and everything else.
- 00:18:34.137 --> 00:18:35.905
- I mean,
- 00:18:35.905 --> 00:18:37.040
- Just the most dystopian stuff you've ever heard of,
- 00:18:37.040 --> 00:18:38.408
- Ironically, from the same people
- 00:18:38.408 --> 00:18:39.776
- Who often scream at you
- 00:18:39.776 --> 00:18:40.743
- About the handmaid's tale as a conservative.
- 00:18:40.743 --> 00:18:43.379
- And so i think there's this confusion
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- Among young women in society.
- 00:18:45.048 --> 00:18:46.449
- What is my life supposed to look like?
- 00:18:46.449 --> 00:18:48.318
- Am i supposed to embrace the new wave of this girlboss
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- Thing, where the only thing that matters is my career,
- 00:18:51.888 --> 00:18:54.924
- And i'm essentially mocked and ridiculed?
- 00:18:54.924 --> 00:18:56.793
- If i even want to get married or have kids,
- 00:18:56.793 --> 00:18:59.429
- Or is there a different path that i may take where either
- 00:18:59.429 --> 00:19:02.198
- I can choose to be a stay at home mom,
- 00:19:02.198 --> 00:19:04.000
- Or i can work as a mom?
- 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:05.501
- But either way, my family is the more central
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- Part of my identity.
- 00:19:08.404 --> 00:19:09.706
- My faith in
- 00:19:09.706 --> 00:19:10.473
- My family will ultimately matter
- 00:19:10.473 --> 00:19:11.674
- So much more than my computer screen and my cubicle.
- 00:19:11.674 --> 00:19:15.078
- If the right can learn how to message
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- Effectively in that regard, i think we have nothing
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- But opportunity
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- To connect with young women who, of course, instinctually
- 00:19:20.817 --> 00:19:23.519
- Want to commit their life to a beautiful man
- 00:19:23.519 --> 00:19:26.022
- Who loves them and lays his life down for them
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- For the rest of their lives in marriage
- 00:19:27.957 --> 00:19:29.759
- And of course, wants to bring new life into the world.
- 00:19:29.759 --> 00:19:32.095
- We have a natural motherhood instinct
- 00:19:32.095 --> 00:19:34.664
- That society is trying to get us to ignore.
- 00:19:34.664 --> 00:19:37.000
- And you saw it on full display with the view
- 00:19:37.000 --> 00:19:38.801
- Last week, essentially saying, if you even want kids,
- 00:19:38.801 --> 00:19:41.437
- That's the wrong decision, and you're only putting women
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- Back into a box of their ovaries.
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- In the past.
- 00:19:46.142 --> 00:19:47.877
- Yeah.
- 00:19:47.877 --> 00:19:48.511
- And i just want to revisit
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- This idea, and i'd love blake's pov
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- As somebody that's kind of
- 00:19:51.281 --> 00:19:52.548
- Not in this cycle yet in the season of his life yet,
- 00:19:52.548 --> 00:19:54.717
- But that i'm telling you, there is something about the ouch,
- 00:19:54.717 --> 00:19:59.088
- Which is let's try to do it the nice way.
- 00:19:59.088 --> 00:20:01.457
- Paul is always persecuted over here.
- 00:20:01.457 --> 00:20:04.027
- Yeah, listen, blake's
- 00:20:04.027 --> 00:20:05.728
- Blake's going to find his special someone, i believe it.
- 00:20:05.728 --> 00:20:07.930
- So here's the deal.
- 00:20:07.930 --> 00:20:09.032
- I just, again, whether it's five years or ten years
- 00:20:09.032 --> 00:20:11.734
- This season of a of a woman and a mother's life,
- 00:20:11.734 --> 00:20:15.271
- Where if they can find a way for her to stay home
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- And be with the kids full time, i just
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- I really want to lift that up as as an ideal.
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- It's not going to happen for everybody,
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- Whether finances preclude it, whether,
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- You know, what other situations.
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- But to have it as an ideal, i think is a beautiful thing.
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- And you're somebody that, like i said, you have a
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- If you can get a situation where
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- You can kind of work from home and you can make that work
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- And be full time with your kids, still,
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- I think that's great, too.
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- I'm there's not a one size fits all.
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- But i do think lifting up an ideal is really
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- I think it's so precious because that clip charlie said
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- It's it's beautiful. it's god given.
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- It's amazing thing for the season
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- Where they're so reliant on you,
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- And it's the formative years where so much of
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- The rest of their life is going to be shaped.
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- I have zero, problem lifting that up as the ideal,
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- Because i think that, that your kids will be blessed,
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- Your marriage will be blessed.
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- I think the mother will be blessed.
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- And you can always go back to work.
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- You can always go back to your career
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- If you are able and blessed like you, to have a career
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- Where you can kind of have find a fusion of the two.
- 00:21:15.631 --> 00:21:18.067
- I think that's amazing too.
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- But anyways, i maybe i'm as a man, i'm mansplaining,
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- But that's how i feel about it.
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- Honestly,
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- I don't know if blake if that resonated at all or not, but
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- I mean it all. it all makes sense.
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- It all makes sense to me.
- 00:21:29.645 --> 00:21:30.947
- I think in the end, it's a question of values.
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- We talk a lot about how to
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- Encourage families, and i think the focus often ends up just,
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- Oh, try to throw them money for more accessible
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- Daycare or something.
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- And what you really need to do
- 00:21:47.130 --> 00:21:48.464
- Is you need to win the fight on values.
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- You need to sell the narrative that having children
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- Is a core part of certainly married life
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- And ideally almost everyone's life.
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- And it's just something your you do because that is
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- What is valuable
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- To society, for civilization and for your own flourishing.
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- And we just have to sell that at all times.
- 00:22:09.986 --> 00:22:11.521
- And once you make that a core thing that you do,
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- And it's not just a lifestyle choice,
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- That is what drives it to happen the most.
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- And we've seen it fade away so much
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- Because we've just turned it
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- Into an accessory, a lifestyle choice.
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- Because if it's just a choice, it's one
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- A lot of people won't make
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- Because it's annoying or difficult and expensive.
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- Isabelle, final.
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- 45 seconds to you take us away.
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- Yeah, i would just add that we are missing so much purpose
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- In our lives right now, especially as a generation.
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- And in the midst of trying to ask,
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- Who am i and what am i doing here?
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- We're also facing the greatest mental
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- Health crisis the world has ever seen.
- 00:22:45.087 --> 00:22:47.190
- Married moms under 35 years old are three times
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- Happier than their unmarried, childless counterparts.
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- And there's something to that, because it's a reason
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- To jump out of bed in the morning
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- And to realize our lives
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- Are not supposed to be just about ourselves.
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- In this malignant narcissism, we find real
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- Meaning and purpose in serving and loving others.
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- And there is no more beautiful way
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- To do that than in your family.
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- So i reiterate, ladies of the view
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- Get married, have kids, more kids.
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- When you think you're ready for
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- More than you think you can afford. amen.
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- Well said.
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- Get married. have babies.
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- It's pretty simple.
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- We'll see you guys tomorrow. thank you. isabel.
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