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Jack Posobiec: December 24, 2025 | Charlie Kirk Today

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Charlie Kirk Today | Jack Posobiec: December 24, 2025 | Charlie Kirk Today | December 24, 2025

Brought to you in part by the
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International fellowship of christians and jews.
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So we've got a jam packed show.
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We figured
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Let's just throw the kitchen sink at it today
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And we're going to have a lot of guests.
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So we've starting off with jack posobiec,
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Host of human events daily.
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We're going to talk epstein,
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Because,
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With all the craziness around amp fest
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And just kind of processing and fest and our straw poll,
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We have not
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I mean, i personally i have not
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Had a chance to really dive in.
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So jack is going to be our, our our, our expert
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On that, and, and kind of give us the updates on that.
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I saw that there's a third tranche of, files from the doj
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Following the passage of through that.
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So, jack, without further ado, just 30,000ft view for us.
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What's going on with epstein?
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How did we get here? what have we learned?
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Okay, so this is the response to that legislation
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That was passed by the house a while back.
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It was a
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Bipartisan piece of legislation regarding the epstein files,
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Which some of us, like myself, have been calling
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For since day
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One of president trump returning to the white house.
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And what we've got now are actual files coming out
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Now, what we have today, this is so
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There were files released during am fast
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Because of course, it
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Couldn't be a turning point event
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Without epstein files getting released, separately.
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And and then now we've got more epstein files
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That are being released as part of this tranche.
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And i believe that one of the things
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That's going on right now
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Is that a lot of these files that are coming out,
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These are investigative files,
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These are things that came up as evidence.
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And there are a lot of redactions in these,
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Some of which we're told are redactions
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For, victims on, on personal information
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That people don't want out for those who are being accused
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Of a crime or people who are, like i said,
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Victims of epstein and of his network
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And potentially even under age, depending on who it is.
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Obviously we can't
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We can't tell in many
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Of these cases, but
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There are so many more files that are coming out
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And also that people are saying there have been back
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And forths of the doj that said,
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Wait a minute, you put some stuff out,
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Then you put out the stuff in redacted.
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So there are people even this is a very live situation
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Where people are responding to the doj release legally
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And saying, hey, i want that redacted.
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Hey, i want that redacted.
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So that being said,
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What we do actually have, i'm just going to say it,
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These photos that are released are absolutely disgusting.
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They make me sick to my stomach.
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Looking at some of these, i talked about this
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On, on, newsmax last night that when there were peop
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There have been a lot of people.
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So there's been this narrative that like, okay, epstein
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Maybe wasn't involved in, like, really bad stuff,
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And maybe it's all just overblown.
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No, no, it's actually disgusting.
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And there's a lot of photos.
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It just has to be said truthfully,
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There are a lot of photos of him with bill clinton.
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Bill clinton in a hot tub, him and bill clinton on planes,
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Him and bill clinton wearing, you know, matching matching
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Shirts of some kind at, like, some kind of party.
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So, again, what you're not finding
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Are images of donald trump in a hot tub.
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And so the democrats
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Are sitting there going like, wait, what's
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You know, what's what's happening?
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Because we were told trump would be the one in there.
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And yes, there were some time
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There were some instances where they said, okay,
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We found some records of trump flying on the plane.
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But what was interesting is, of course, not only did
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They still not find trump and just be truthful,
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They did not find trump flying to the island.
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But trump was also flying on the plane with his family.
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So like with his wife and children.
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So again,
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Like not a situation where, were anything untoward.
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Those were those were mostly in the 90s.
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Right, jack? so. oh, yeah. yeah.
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This is way, way, way like we're talking 30,
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30 or 40 years ago in some instances.
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So where it's like just or 30 years ago.
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So instances where long before any of these,
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Any of his crimes had come to life, long before
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We know the rest of the story.
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We've been over it so many times.
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Where he was evicted from mar-a-lago for his behavior.
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And then trump actually goes
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To the lawyers of the victims to say,
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How can i help you
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To put this guy away because he's a bad guy.
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And what we're seeing again over and over are pictures
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Of him, of epstein, as well as some emails
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With, prince or i should say former prince andrew.
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A fake passport is something that just came out,
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Which is something that's really interesting.
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I mean, this this is happening all live.
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It was an austrian passport.
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Talked about businesses in west africa and saudi arabia.
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I mean, really just a lot of, just a lot of
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Random things that were coming out
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Like crazy, like crazy right now.
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Let's go ahead and get, president
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Trump was asked about this.
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Let's play 191.
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I know there are a lot of people
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That are angry
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About all of the pictures of other people,
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You know, but i think it's terrible.
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Look,
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No, i don't like the pictures of bill clinton being shown.
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I don't like the pictures of other people being shown.
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I think it's a terrible thing.
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I think, both legs, a big boy, he can handle it.
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But you probably have pictures being exposed of other people
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That innocently met jeffrey epstein years ago.
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Many years ago.
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And they're, you know, highly respected
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Bankers and lawyers and others.
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And they'll end up
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Because of guys like marcy, who's a real lowlife.
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What this whole thing is with
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Epstein is a way of trying to deflect
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From the tremendous success that the republican party has.
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You know, this feels pretty consistent with trump's
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Original kind of objection to this, you know,
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And we have to remember that if they had something on trump,
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It would have been weaponized by the biden administration,
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You know, ten times over.
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So to turn that around,
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If they have something on clinton,
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I feel like the trump admin would probably want to.
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He has a big, pretty big beef with the clintons.
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And can we turn that around as well?
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Actually, trump trump is saying, listen,
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I've always gotten along with bill.
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He's been good to me. i've been good to him.
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I actually don't
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Kind of getting inside the psyche of president trump.
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I actually don't think he has like a
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A bone to pick with, bill clinton per se.
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Maybe hillary more so.
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But, yeah, i think trump trump knows a lot of these guys
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Kind of knows the situation that, some of the innocent
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Ones are put in.
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It just feels like he's being consistent.
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But, you know, the admin was pressured.
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You know,
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He he takes a shot at thomas massie
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Right there to be more transparent.
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So he's doing he's doing what he's gotta do politically.
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But i think he
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He actually seems to be fairly disgusted with the fact that
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One of
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Well,
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Before we end the segment, one thing i should mention is
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There is a very strange letter to larry nassar.
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Larry nassar, who we know also went to prison
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And is in prison
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For these same type of crimes, that epstein
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Wrote a letter to him saying, as you know by now,
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I have taken the short route home. good luck.
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We shared one thing our love and caring for young ladies
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And the hope they'd reach their full potential.
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And then he also he makes a lewd reference to trump
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And then he writes, life is unfair.
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Yeah, very, very fascinating.
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More with jack purcell becoming events daily.
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On the other side of this break,
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More revelations from the epstein document drop.
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We will be right back.
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The wounds from
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October 7th didn't fade when the headlines did.
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Behind me rises
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Families displaced.
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And each day,
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The impact of the need grows even more overwhelming.
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But the bible says it clearly.
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Welcome back to the charlie kirk show.
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Blake neff is threatening to upset
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Everybody in the audience.
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I don't know if we're ready for that yet.
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But why don't we just start here?
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Let's go. 199.
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This is, joe scarborough.
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On his reaction to the epstein files.
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One of the great mysteries to me and a lot of other people is
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We've had reporting for some time.
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Donald trump is not on epstein's list.
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There's nothing in there that's really damning
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About donald trump.
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And as susie wilde says,
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Not damning about donald trump running to the chief or,
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A bill clinton.
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So one of the great mysteries all along
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And there's not been like, what's donald trump hiding?
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What did he do that did, say why,
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If he's not in these files, which all the reporting says
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He's not,
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Why is he so obsessed on blocking access to the files?
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Is he trying to protect somebody?
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So, i mean, what do you think, blake?
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I guess what i would say is,
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I feel like that's
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Actually the case for a lot of the people in this.
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I'm seeing the stuff that's going viral and
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What a lot of this is, it's photographs of people
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Hanging out, and then they blackout the faces.
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And that's used to create the implication.
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There is a super savage, sinister crime.
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But what you're basically just have is you have
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Bill clinton getting photos with people.
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You have bill gates getting photos with people.
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You have people having photos with epstein.
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And i think it gets back to
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What president trump said, which i think is reasonable.
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He's pointed out a lot of people met epstein.
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He was a huge socialite.
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And when you just release a giant pile of photographs,
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You can of someone who has become an infamous figure.
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You basically tar everyone by association.
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And i guess i would caution everyone
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To take a step back and think, what do we really have
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Proof of?
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What has actually been litigated in court?
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Because, for example, a lot of these cases,
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When they have gone to court, people have either
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They've gone to court like alan dershowitz was able to sue,
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Virginia guthrie.
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And she had to admit she just was lying about him.
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Or we have cases
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Where a lot of this has been a funny pattern
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That's been going on throughout the case this year,
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Where a lot of the victims have just been saying
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They've been saying, release the names, release the names,
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But they won't name names themselves.
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And i think of justifiable reason for skepticism.
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There is
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They don't
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Want to name names themselves because they actually don't
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Have evidence,
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And they're basically worried about getting sued
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For defamation, and they wanted others
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To do the work for them to justify allegations
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That they could kind of
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Get away with making without being as facing as much risk
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Of actual defamation.
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It just the whole thing feels very off to me.
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Jack, you you're kind of a
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Contrarian voice in this space a little bit as well.
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I mean you,
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I mean where,
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Where would you put yourself on the spectrum of like he was
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This mastermind international
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Pedophile ringleader with compromised on the world's
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Leaders versus
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He was just kind of like a
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Kinky, gross, disgusting thing, like sex, you know, pests.
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That was connected to a few international leaders.
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Maybe he was working with cia, mossad, whatever, where?
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Like there's so many options of what the truth is here.
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It's hard to make sense of it.
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Yeah.
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Look,
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I see what the doj is putting out,
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But i also watch mike benz
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And all the stuff that he's putting out as well.
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He's very well-documented.
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These links between epstein and intelligence.
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He talks about his connections to iran contra his connections
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To adnan khashoggi, the money that was being run around.
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Yes, that's right, the father of jamal khashoggi.
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And so it's it's really interesting
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When you look at some of this stuff
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And the networks that he was in,
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And then certainly there are questions onto
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Who was running, who was he an asset?
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Was he an operative?
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But i really do think that there's there's
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A lot more to this that i think than meets the eye.
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But when it comes to what blake is saying,
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I can appreciate what blake saying.
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Because when you go to court,
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You absolutely need evidence, and you need to be able
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To stand these things up on evidence.
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So what i would also say, though, is
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If the doj has this evidence, then we should put it out
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Or at least make it available to any of the victims
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Should they want to sue.
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And i believe
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That a number of the victims are getting restitution
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From the estate of epstein, and i think they deserve that.
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But if there are people
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Out there like former prince andrew or others
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Who are involved in crimes, then absolutely
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You have to use the evidence like that's the whole point.
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We have the government as a whole point.
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We have the department of justice.
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You investigate the crimes, you don't make
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The victim have to investigate themselves. right?
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That's the point.
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That's why we have the government check.
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One more question here before we get to go.
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What what do you make of this video
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That was circulating around yesterday?
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It seemed to show.
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And the timestamp lined up with his his suicide or murder,
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However you want to look at it, whether it showed him
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Potentially committing suicide, that that that we.
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You checked into that? yeah. yeah.
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I think that ended
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Up being a recreation that was not an actual video.
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That was,
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Something that probably was done as a recreation
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Cgi kind of thing to say.
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You know, if he did it, here's a way
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He possibly anatomically could have done it,
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Possibly something they were looking at during the autopsy.
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Different things like that can be created,
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When you're on ongoing.
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Yeah, because it was,
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But i don't know, it was in the doj file.
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It was in the you could actually access it online.
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It was very interesting.
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Yeah. yeah, i guess it was a recreation.
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Jack posobiec, thanks for walking us through that.
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Lots of lots to parse through there.
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Merry christmas. jack, thanks for everything you're doing.
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Merry christmas.
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Big special coming up this,
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This christmas break, when human events resumes.
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We'll be right
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That christmas morning.
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Wise men brought gifts from outside the holy land.
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But now that the war is over,
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This holy land and her people
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Are still carrying deep wounded.
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Many of the elderly are alone and suffering
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Like the wise men or wise women.
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When you open your heart and give a special holiday food
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Box to someone here in israel
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This christmas chronicles season.
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People like hannah who can't buy food.
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That's where the fellowship is called to feed the hungry.
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Please call, scan or go online now to help rush emergency
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Food and healing to elderly jews
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And their christian neighbors struggling
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To rebuild their lives from the war.
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What will happen when we make this holy day season?
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Holy indeed.
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Holy indeed.
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All right without further ado, we're going to talk
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Some family business with sean davis.
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He is the right guy to do it because, you know
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There's a lot of johnny come lately.
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There's a lot of there's a lot of new blood
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In the movement and that's a good thing.
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But sometimes they don't know how to.
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They don't know how the sausage is made.
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They don't know how
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The coalition came together in the first point.
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In the first part.
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So sean davis, from the federalist,
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One of the good guys out there,
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Man, does he know how to tweak the left?
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Sean, welcome to the show.
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Thank you for having me. merry christmas.
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Yeah, well, i tried to get you to go
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To amvets, but you were adamant that you had other plans.
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It's not for me to divulge what you were doing
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Instead of coming to am fest, but i wanted to get you.
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I mean, if you want to go there, it's fine.
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It's fine with me.
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But, something to do with bambi.
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I don't know,
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But if you were on the outside looking in and you got to see
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All the reactions to it,
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The reactions to the speeches, to the disagreements,
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All of these things i want
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I wanted your help to make sense of it. sean.
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What what do you make of the reactions?
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But the good and the bad?
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Office.
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I love the energy i love, the number of people
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You can get in there.
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Just like the
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The logistical feat of pulling something like that
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Off, let alone in a year like this really blows my mind.
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But the thing that i have always loved about it,
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About charlie in particular, and kind of the whole tp
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Usa vibe, is how ecumenical it is.
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He will have, or had people all the time where i was like,
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Yeah, i don't really like that guy.
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And then there would be people
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Who would be like, oh yeah, that guy's awesome.
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And i think that's kind of what makes the movement great
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Is that we don't have to always agree on everything
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All the time for the same reasons.
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And so i like having the people
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Up there who can disagree, who can do it respectfully.
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Because the whole point here is to build a coalition
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That can win elections and then do what needs
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To be done to save our country,
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So that that's what i loved about this year in particular,
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After everything that's happened, is
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It would have been easy to just retreat in on yourself
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And become very kind of self referential and self focused,
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And instead the focus stayed on the country
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And the movement and everyone who's within it,
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Even the people i don't agree with all the time.
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And blake, i want to bring you in for this as well.
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I mean, there just seems to be the this there's a rising tide
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Of voices that are calling for denouncing certain voice,
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Other people that they want to see
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The disavowal very publicly.
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They want to see, you know, it just seems like
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We hadn't been in that that posture.
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You hadn't heard as much of that tone.
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And all of a sudden
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There's there's a lot of voices saying,
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We got to disavow this.
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We got to say this. we gotta we gotta block this.
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And i think a lot of it
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Is a proxy war, with jd ahead of 2028.
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But i'll leave it to you guys. blake.
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You first.
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What what do you make of this? this?
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I mean, because you have a you have
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A little bit of sympathy, i think, for that as well.
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But you're much more reserved and restrained.
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Well i, you know, i let's just say the elephant in the room,
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A lot of people are reacting specifically to what
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Ben shapiro said immediately after, erica spoke
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And i don't think ben was saying
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We need to aggressively cancel people.
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I think he was
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Saying he was disappointed in how a lot of people had,
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Handled certain topics.
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And i think in response to that,
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Many people said, oh, he's trying to cancel us.
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I think ben was going about it in the way ben does.
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Ben is a very blunt guy.
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He's going to say exactly what he means
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And exactly what he's angry about.
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And i think that's going to
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Some people are going to really like that.
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Some people are going to find it really irritating.
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And that's just that's part of his brand.
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That's been his brand, for a decade.
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But i think on the ground among attendees,
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We saw a lot of people who, frankly, they enjoyed
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What ben said and what meghan said, what tucker said.
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And i think that's really how a lot of the base feels.
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I think the people who are getting angry enough to, boot
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Others out are kind of
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A pretty small slice of the coalition overall.
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Sean, let me know.
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What you think here.
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So i think a lot of these battles just sort of
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Got to make it serious.
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For the last three minutes we have here.
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A lot of these battles
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Are just a proxy about foreign policy.
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Why is that issue in particular?
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Is it just because the military industrial complex?
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Is it because there's so much money involved?
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It's like, you know, people's tribalism on display.
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What what drives the foreign policy debate
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When we have a whole country together?
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Why is that always such a big deal?
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Yeah, it's such a good question. not obviously.
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I think the money involved is a big thing.
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You know
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How many trillions of dollars did we spend
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In iraq and afghanistan?
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And then when those were finally wound down,
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It magically was transferred to like half $1 trillion
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To ukraine.
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Now we're
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Suddenly talking about
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Maybe regime change in venezuela,
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Which obviously would be a terrible idea.
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So money is a huge thing.
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I also think there is a very large
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I don't want to say it's totally moral blackmail,
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But people really enjoy patting themselves on the back
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For being,
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Compassionate and willing to spend other people's lives
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And other people's money to do things
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Which they think are morally, right to do.
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It's kind of the, the covid nannying,
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But taken to a foreign policy extent.
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And i'm not doing this to help myself.
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I'm trying to keep you safe.
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I think there is a large segment,
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Of people who really, really enjoy the moralizing,
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Aspect of it, almost like the the stolen moral valor
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Aspect of it.
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So i think it's that plus the, plus the money.
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And then also there are people who just genuinely
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Think we need to be involved everywhere.
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Why are we big and powerful, and why do we have this role
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If we're not just going to go be the world police?
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I think there are people who legitimately believe that.
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Yeah.
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You know, charlie used to rail against people being,
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Fixated and fascinated about, you know, foreign abstractions.
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It's somehow i think, honestly, when you get into
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A position of power or a political office,
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It's easier to sort of
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Think about others far and away and ignore the problems
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Right at your doorstep, because those are harder
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And and, and,
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You know, it might reflect poorly on your own self.
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So, blake, take us on one minute left in this segment.
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Yeah.
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I think, i think sean's exactly right.
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People do get they get fixated on these big abstract thing.
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I think, honestly, it's almost
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I think it's a lot of people who get into politics
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And get into government are kind of nerds and dorks,
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And they remember being kids, and they liked the idea of,
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Oh, i'm moving these like big the i can move these armies.
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It'd be so cool if i was alexander the great.
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It'd be so cool if i was napoleon.
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And then they get into government
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And they kind of get to fill these
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Fantasies.
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That sounds like the wrong word,
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But it's like a gun that comes to mind.
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Yeah.
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God. complex or just self-importance?
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A lot of self-importance.
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And you certainly see that in dc all the time.
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And it's really annoying and it will persist forever.
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This christmas season.
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We remember that, jesus came to earth.
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He's god, and we are not him.
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So that's my message to all the god like complex folks.
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Thanks, sean. we'll see you soon.
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Merry christmas, merry christmas.
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As this year draws to an end,
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I'd like to express my
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Heartfelt gratitude to our partners, the fellowship
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Of christians and jews.
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And i'd like to say thank you to our audience
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Who have supported them in prayer, with finances
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And standing strong for the people of israel.
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The fellowship is one of america's
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Most beloved
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Organizations, spanning more than 40 years of ministry,
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Providing tangible help
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And comfort to the people of israel
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In the ukraine and across the former soviet union.
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This holiday season and every day of the year,
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The fellowship is called to serve
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The elderly jewish people,
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Many of whom are holocaust survivors who are now
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Living in the shadow of past wars, poverty and loneliness.
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During this christmas time, join me and fulfill
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The prophet isaiah as cry to comfort.
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Comfort my people, says your god.
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To find out how. visit ifg.
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Org. that's if c.j. dawg.
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Jack Posobiec: December 24, 2025 | Charlie Kirk Today

December 24, 2025 | S25 E1224 | 25:2

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