Charlie Kirk Today

Jack Posobiec & Megan Basham: October 24, 2025 | Charlie Kirk Today

October 24, 2025 | 25:2

Join Jack Posobiec & Megan Basham as they breaks down the biggest news, challenges the mainstream narrative, and delivers fearless commentary on faith, culture, and politics. No spin. No censorship. Just the TRUTH.

#News #Media #Government #Politics #Culture #Faith #Legacy #Humaninterest #PersonalStory

Closed captions

Show Timecode

Charlie Kirk Today | Jack Posobiec & Megan Basham: October 24, 2025 | Charlie Kirk Today | October 24, 2025

Brought to you in part by the
00:00:00.790 --> 00:00:02.492
International fellowship of christians and jews.
00:00:02.492 --> 00:00:14.904
I'm andrew
00:00:15.205 --> 00:00:16.172
Collett, executive producer of this show.
00:00:16.172 --> 00:00:18.575
And today i am joined by magazine main man.
00:00:18.575 --> 00:00:22.579
That's right.
00:00:22.579 --> 00:00:23.847
The number the most important influencer in the maga world.
00:00:23.847 --> 00:00:28.184
And that is, of course,
00:00:28.184 --> 00:00:29.119
Jack posobiec, host of human events daily.
00:00:29.119 --> 00:00:31.788
That's right. jack, take a bath.
00:00:31.788 --> 00:00:33.890
Yeah, okay.
00:00:33.890 --> 00:00:34.724
I did not write the atlantic piece.
00:00:34.724 --> 00:00:37.060
I respectfully disagree with the atlantic,
00:00:37.060 --> 00:00:40.563
Naming the magazine's,
00:00:40.563 --> 00:00:43.133
Most important influencer, next top influencer.
00:00:43.133 --> 00:00:46.336
I respectfully disagree.
00:00:46.336 --> 00:00:48.238
The name of magazine's most important
00:00:48.238 --> 00:00:51.508
Influencer is charles james kirk.
00:00:51.508 --> 00:00:55.145
And that's all i'm going to say about that. well.
00:00:55.145 --> 00:00:56.779
Well said.
00:00:56.779 --> 00:00:58.014
Listen, there's another story about keeping records, jack.
00:00:58.014 --> 00:01:00.617
And this is, of course,
00:01:00.617 --> 00:01:01.818
The democrats on the oversight committee in the house
00:01:01.818 --> 00:01:05.288
Are going.
00:01:05.588 --> 00:01:06.723
They've announced a plan to roll out a master online
00:01:06.723 --> 00:01:09.926
Ice tracker.
00:01:09.926 --> 00:01:10.827
So. and this corresponds with a really creepy story
00:01:11.861 --> 00:01:14.731
That we covered at tp, usa front lines.
00:01:14.731 --> 00:01:17.700
About this.
00:01:17.700 --> 00:01:18.735
Basically, it antifa hit list.
00:01:18.735 --> 00:01:20.470
I want to know
00:01:20.470 --> 00:01:21.604
What the heck is going on
00:01:21.604 --> 00:01:22.872
With democrats keeping lists all of a sudden and so.
00:01:22.872 --> 00:01:26.543
Well, it's amazing, right?
00:01:26.543 --> 00:01:27.510
So there's no there's no daylight whatsoever
00:01:27.510 --> 00:01:31.147
Between what you see at the antifa level
00:01:31.147 --> 00:01:33.683
And what you see at the democrat level in the house.
00:01:33.683 --> 00:01:36.553
And this is something where, you know,
00:01:36.553 --> 00:01:38.388
Harry sisson asked me the other day, said does,
00:01:38.388 --> 00:01:40.690
You know, does you know, are there any high ranking
00:01:40.690 --> 00:01:43.026
Democrats who call republicans fascists? and hillary?
00:01:43.026 --> 00:01:45.428
I said, yeah, kamala harris did.
00:01:45.428 --> 00:01:47.030
When you were campaigning for they all do.
00:01:47.030 --> 00:01:49.132
Joe biden, you go down the list, right?
00:01:49.132 --> 00:01:51.167
So what, what katie davis caught and tp
00:01:51.167 --> 00:01:53.870
Usa front lines were able to uncover on the ground in
00:01:53.870 --> 00:01:57.440
They've gone through seattle, they've gone through portland,
00:01:57.440 --> 00:01:59.409
They've been infiltrating oakland,
00:01:59.409 --> 00:02:00.743
California, infiltrating these antifa cells.
00:02:00.743 --> 00:02:03.413
And they found hit lists of prominent,
00:02:03.413 --> 00:02:06.349
Influencers, reporters, media
00:02:06.349 --> 00:02:09.619
Figures, conservatives that if you see these people
00:02:09.619 --> 00:02:13.823
That you are essentially to fight them, to attack them.
00:02:13.823 --> 00:02:17.760
And and i'm just going to kill them, right?
00:02:17.760 --> 00:02:20.063
These are kill orders that got put out,
00:02:20.063 --> 00:02:22.031
Certainly after the murder of charlie kirk
00:02:22.031 --> 00:02:24.701
And certainly
00:02:24.701 --> 00:02:25.668
After that white house roundtable that we held
00:02:25.668 --> 00:02:27.470
Talking about antifa.
00:02:27.470 --> 00:02:29.138
And that's what they're doing now.
00:02:29.138 --> 00:02:30.406
And so you can actually see there are certain members
00:02:30.406 --> 00:02:33.176
Of the turning point front lines team,
00:02:33.176 --> 00:02:35.812
Like jonathan cho and doctor
00:02:35.812 --> 00:02:37.313
Carnivore sancho, who joined them as well,
00:02:37.313 --> 00:02:39.449
That were on the list, even as they themselves were.
00:02:39.449 --> 00:02:42.719
They're taking the photos and were infiltrating.
00:02:42.719 --> 00:02:45.321
So they're sitting there taking a picture of, of their
00:02:45.321 --> 00:02:48.891
Own mug shots essentially from this terrorist group.
00:02:48.891 --> 00:02:52.829
And again, it really just goes to show you that
00:02:52.829 --> 00:02:55.198
Whenever you hear the media,
00:02:55.198 --> 00:02:56.699
Whenever you hear the democrats say
00:02:56.699 --> 00:02:58.268
That they don't exist, that antifa doesn't exist,
00:02:58.268 --> 00:03:00.570
They have hit lists, they have cells,
00:03:00.570 --> 00:03:02.505
They have book fairs, they have communes.
00:03:02.505 --> 00:03:04.440
They have command centers in seattle that you can go into
00:03:04.440 --> 00:03:07.010
And infiltrate, like turning point front lines did.
00:03:07.010 --> 00:03:09.212
And god bless them for going in there,
00:03:09.212 --> 00:03:11.080
Putting themselves in harm's way like this.
00:03:11.080 --> 00:03:12.682
They literally go to the front lines,
00:03:12.682 --> 00:03:14.517
And that's why they're called that.
00:03:14.517 --> 00:03:15.752
Those are the guys who should be called the top influencers.
00:03:15.752 --> 00:03:18.087
Those are the guys
00:03:18.087 --> 00:03:19.255
Who are the most important, the ones that are actually
00:03:19.255 --> 00:03:20.957
Putting themselves in harm's way.
00:03:20.957 --> 00:03:22.625
So you look at all this,
00:03:22.625 --> 00:03:24.627
And then you combine that with the fact
00:03:24.627 --> 00:03:25.962
That now we have house
00:03:25.962 --> 00:03:27.096
Members that want to target ice officers, the same ones
00:03:27.096 --> 00:03:30.566
Who want to bring up january 6th.
00:03:30.566 --> 00:03:31.968
Every time they get a chance, they bring up jan six,
00:03:31.968 --> 00:03:34.203
Jan six, jan six.
00:03:34.203 --> 00:03:35.438
And now you are
00:03:35.438 --> 00:03:36.439
The ones that are physically doxing, harassing
00:03:36.439 --> 00:03:39.375
And targeting federal agents on the street who, by the way,
00:03:39.375 --> 00:03:42.545
Are enforcing the laws that were passed by congress.
00:03:42.545 --> 00:03:46.582
That's what federal agents do.
00:03:46.582 --> 00:03:48.918
Well, yeah, i need to get people killed.
00:03:48.918 --> 00:03:51.154
Yeah. let me let me play some of these clips.
00:03:51.154 --> 00:03:52.889
This is rep, robert garcia.
00:03:52.889 --> 00:03:55.124
He's a top democrat on the oversight committee,
00:03:55.124 --> 00:03:57.660
And he's announcing this plan.
00:03:57.660 --> 00:03:59.095
Cut 243 i shared this with the mayor.
00:03:59.095 --> 00:04:01.464
Over the course of the next couple of weeks,
00:04:01.464 --> 00:04:04.133
The oversight committee will be launching
00:04:04.133 --> 00:04:05.501
On their website a master ice tracker
00:04:05.501 --> 00:04:09.405
Where we can
00:04:09.739 --> 00:04:10.973
We're going to be essentially tracking every single instance
00:04:10.973 --> 00:04:13.910
That we can verify that the community
00:04:13.910 --> 00:04:15.812
Will soon be able to send us information on. yeah.
00:04:15.812 --> 00:04:18.014
And you saw,
00:04:18.014 --> 00:04:19.215
Karen bass there,
00:04:19.215 --> 00:04:20.416
And then we have another disgraced big city mayor.
00:04:20.416 --> 00:04:23.286
This is, lori lightfoot just getting in on the action.
00:04:23.286 --> 00:04:25.855
290 we start the process of unmasking the agents.
00:04:25.855 --> 00:04:29.926
Even though they're wearing masks.
00:04:29.926 --> 00:04:31.661
Every single one of them has a towel.
00:04:31.661 --> 00:04:33.162
You say unmasking.
00:04:33.162 --> 00:04:34.197
They're going to say you're going to dox them.
00:04:34.197 --> 00:04:35.531
And that's why threats against them are up.
00:04:35.531 --> 00:04:37.200
They are on public property out in the open.
00:04:37.200 --> 00:04:39.902
We have an absolute right under our constitution
00:04:39.902 --> 00:04:43.473
To be able to document what's happening.
00:04:43.473 --> 00:04:46.175
Every single one of those agents height, weight, hair
00:04:46.175 --> 00:04:49.145
Color, they wear their vests in a particular way.
00:04:49.145 --> 00:04:52.115
They're wearing insignias.
00:04:52.115 --> 00:04:53.816
Even the masks that they wear, the shoes that they wear,
00:04:53.816 --> 00:04:56.819
The cars that they're driving, we have a right to,
00:04:56.819 --> 00:04:59.922
Compile that information.
00:05:00.490 --> 00:05:02.325
So she's claiming she has a constitutional right
00:05:02.325 --> 00:05:04.494
To essentially dox track and endanger
00:05:04.494 --> 00:05:08.030
Ice agents that are enforcing federal immigration law.
00:05:08.030 --> 00:05:10.800
And, by the way, that we're just this this policy of mass
00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:14.437
Deportations, that
00:05:14.437 --> 00:05:15.338
Which is voted on by the american people
00:05:15.338 --> 00:05:17.140
After joe biden let in 10 million
00:05:17.140 --> 00:05:19.142
Plus illegals, streaming to this country.
00:05:19.142 --> 00:05:22.078
And so now they're they're doing it.
00:05:22.078 --> 00:05:23.713
So you're seeing it.
00:05:23.713 --> 00:05:24.547
This is the at the federal level.
00:05:24.547 --> 00:05:25.681
You're seeing this at the local level.
00:05:25.681 --> 00:05:27.450
There's letitia james who's
00:05:27.450 --> 00:05:29.085
Who's getting in on the action here.
00:05:29.085 --> 00:05:30.553
Jack 288. let's play that cut.
00:05:30.553 --> 00:05:32.588
They new portal
00:05:32.588 --> 00:05:33.856
Where residents can send photos and videos of ice operations.
00:05:33.856 --> 00:05:37.093
James
00:05:37.093 --> 00:05:37.760
As a portal is meant to review
00:05:37.760 --> 00:05:39.061
And investigate legal violations by agents.
00:05:39.061 --> 00:05:41.831
And her statement referenced tuesday's
00:05:41.831 --> 00:05:43.533
Immigration raid in chinatown in new york city.
00:05:43.533 --> 00:05:46.269
Meantime, house democrats say
00:05:46.269 --> 00:05:47.737
They will launch their own similar ice tracker.
00:05:47.737 --> 00:05:50.706
U.s. attorney general pam bondi criticizing that effort,
00:05:50.706 --> 00:05:54.177
So so jack, we've got two different,
00:05:54.177 --> 00:05:56.779
Efforts here, to track ice agents.
00:05:56.779 --> 00:05:59.515
And stephen miller is livid.
00:05:59.515 --> 00:06:01.951
He's saying how much more blood
00:06:01.951 --> 00:06:03.453
Has to be spilled by democrats before this madness stops.
00:06:03.453 --> 00:06:06.656
And that's exactly where my head goes.
00:06:06.656 --> 00:06:08.958
We just exactly right, by the way, just on
00:06:08.958 --> 00:06:11.828
You hear this violent
00:06:11.828 --> 00:06:13.996
Rhetoric and you hear this violent.
00:06:14.764 --> 00:06:16.599
And again, these are taking steps.
00:06:16.599 --> 00:06:18.334
So when you when you talk about the
00:06:18.334 --> 00:06:19.936
It's like
00:06:19.936 --> 00:06:20.803
When you talk to lawyers about what it,
00:06:20.803 --> 00:06:21.838
You know, how do you constitute a conspiracy.
00:06:21.838 --> 00:06:23.506
Well there's a conspiracy to commit violence.
00:06:23.506 --> 00:06:25.441
Well, taking steps in furtherance of a conspiracy
00:06:25.441 --> 00:06:28.478
Is how you move from just talking about something
00:06:28.478 --> 00:06:31.280
Like, oh, i hate that. i hate that guy so much.
00:06:31.280 --> 00:06:33.316
You know? you know, i could murder amber, right?
00:06:33.316 --> 00:06:35.585
That's free speech.
00:06:35.585 --> 00:06:36.519
But when you take steps
00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:37.987
In furtherance
00:06:37.987 --> 00:06:38.921
Of the conspiracy,
00:06:38.921 --> 00:06:40.223
That's when it crosses into a legal action.
00:06:40.223 --> 00:06:42.725
And so
00:06:42.725 --> 00:06:43.960
What they're saying out there at the low level are saying
00:06:43.960 --> 00:06:45.828
We are going to kill the ice agents.
00:06:45.828 --> 00:06:47.129
We are going to shoot at them. they have shot at them.
00:06:47.129 --> 00:06:49.332
This guy, down in dallas had the anti ice
00:06:49.332 --> 00:06:53.302
Written on the bullet casings.
00:06:53.302 --> 00:06:54.804
And now what do we see.
00:06:54.804 --> 00:06:56.439
They're giving lists.
00:06:56.439 --> 00:06:58.040
They're trying to put out addresses.
00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:00.009
They want another killer.
00:07:00.009 --> 00:07:01.911
They're taking steps in furtherance of the conspiracy.
00:07:01.911 --> 00:07:08.751
In genesis
00:07:09.051 --> 00:07:09.952
12 three, god made a powerful promise
00:07:09.952 --> 00:07:12.588
To abraham, the father of the jewish people.
00:07:12.588 --> 00:07:15.791
I will bless those who bless you.
00:07:15.791 --> 00:07:18.995
The christian bible tells us
00:07:18.995 --> 00:07:20.530
That we have been grafted into god's family tree.
00:07:20.530 --> 00:07:23.499
The rich olive tree of israel,
00:07:23.499 --> 00:07:25.902
The very foundations of the christian faith,
00:07:25.902 --> 00:07:28.304
The bible and jesus, whom christians call
00:07:28.304 --> 00:07:30.907
The messiah, are deeply rooted in israel.
00:07:30.907 --> 00:07:34.377
Supporting israel aligns christians with god's
00:07:34.377 --> 00:07:37.013
Prophetic timeline.
00:07:37.013 --> 00:07:38.381
It demonstrates our willingness to be instruments of
00:07:38.381 --> 00:07:41.617
God's blessing, uplifting his chosen people,
00:07:41.617 --> 00:07:45.187
And it calls us to confront and heal
00:07:45.187 --> 00:07:47.490
The centuries old wounds of anti-semitism.
00:07:47.490 --> 00:07:50.526
The scripture says how good and how
00:07:50.526 --> 00:07:52.962
Pleasant it is when brethren dwell together.
00:07:52.962 --> 00:07:56.265
You can be part of this historic movement
00:07:56.265 --> 00:07:59.802
Of bringing light to our world.
00:07:59.802 --> 00:08:02.572
Learn more by going to ifc.
00:08:02.572 --> 00:08:04.707
J.org today.
00:08:04.707 --> 00:08:08.001
J.org today.
00:08:08.001 --> 00:08:13.945
Jack posobiec, who is remote,
00:08:14.579 --> 00:08:16.447
Not in the studio, but he's holding it down
00:08:16.447 --> 00:08:19.216
With us here, and we thank him for that.
00:08:19.216 --> 00:08:20.985
So, jack,
00:08:20.985 --> 00:08:22.153
I mean, i'm just i'm looking at a list of stories here
00:08:22.153 --> 00:08:23.921
That i want to get to with you.
00:08:23.921 --> 00:08:25.022
So we got to
00:08:25.022 --> 00:08:25.823
We got we got to move here because
00:08:25.823 --> 00:08:27.558
I want to get to all of them.
00:08:27.558 --> 00:08:28.492
We got the pentagon media credential list.
00:08:28.492 --> 00:08:31.495
I think you're
00:08:31.495 --> 00:08:32.663
You're important for that just from a media perspective.
00:08:32.663 --> 00:08:33.965
We got this nba thing about that.
00:08:33.965 --> 00:08:35.800
Yeah that the nba sports betting scandal
00:08:35.800 --> 00:08:40.037
That just happened this morning
00:08:40.037 --> 00:08:41.272
With, fbi arrested like 34 people,
00:08:41.272 --> 00:08:44.342
And there's mafia ties up there, you know, good.
00:08:44.342 --> 00:08:46.877
Goodell's back, and, bad bunny,
00:08:46.877 --> 00:08:49.580
You know, jen serkis coming after ushe and jd vance.
00:08:49.580 --> 00:08:53.250
There's a cdl story, another cdl story
00:08:53.250 --> 00:08:56.754
Out of, california.
00:08:56.754 --> 00:08:59.190
Another guy named, wasn't.
00:08:59.190 --> 00:09:00.925
It's another illegal alien from india.
00:09:00.925 --> 00:09:03.160
Yeah.
00:09:03.160 --> 00:09:03.961
And this is, sing sing sing sing.
00:09:03.961 --> 00:09:06.764
Yeah, yeah, i was like, that doesn't sound right. patel's.
00:09:06.764 --> 00:09:09.100
Because the fbi thing is more
00:09:09.100 --> 00:09:10.668
So, you're you've got all your you've got
00:09:10.668 --> 00:09:13.237
All your stories are blurring together.
00:09:13.237 --> 00:09:14.572
They're blurring together.
00:09:14.572 --> 00:09:15.539
So, jack, tell us about this pentagon thing.
00:09:15.539 --> 00:09:17.208
The way i understand it is that the pentagon
00:09:17.208 --> 00:09:20.077
And this is, of course, you know, our good friend pete
00:09:20.077 --> 00:09:23.414
Hedges said who charlie fought real hard to get, confirmed.
00:09:23.414 --> 00:09:27.251
And, they, they basically put out
00:09:27.952 --> 00:09:30.554
New press guidelines saying that you cannot ask
00:09:30.554 --> 00:09:33.357
Members of, staff, pentagon officials to go off the record.
00:09:33.357 --> 00:09:37.328
And essentially everybody in the,
00:09:37.328 --> 00:09:40.965
Press corps that covers the pentagon walked out,
00:09:40.965 --> 00:09:43.968
Except for groups like tp, usa, the national polls.
00:09:43.968 --> 00:09:47.872
Tell us about this story from give you just give us your
00:09:47.872 --> 00:09:51.275
Media perspective on this.
00:09:51.275 --> 00:09:53.411
Yeah.
00:09:53.644 --> 00:09:54.845
So, you know, i would when i was reached out to about the,
00:09:54.845 --> 00:09:57.515
New pentagon press corps by the department of war
00:09:57.515 --> 00:10:01.652
And their press office, i jumped at the chance.
00:10:01.652 --> 00:10:03.621
I mean, why wouldn't i want human events
00:10:03.621 --> 00:10:05.289
And our entire team from there and the post millennial
00:10:05.289 --> 00:10:07.925
To get in on the stories to embed with, as new media
00:10:07.925 --> 00:10:12.797
For any of these things, like i just did with,
00:10:12.797 --> 00:10:14.999
The secretary of war as well as the president down
00:10:14.999 --> 00:10:17.835
To the navy to 50th.
00:10:17.835 --> 00:10:19.270
And i had the opportunity to go to the marine corps 250
00:10:19.270 --> 00:10:21.839
As it didn't work out
00:10:21.839 --> 00:10:22.907
Time wise with, with the vice president advance.
00:10:22.907 --> 00:10:25.810
And so you want to be able
00:10:25.810 --> 00:10:26.744
To do that coverage now, the media,
00:10:26.744 --> 00:10:28.279
Of course, they prior to this administration,
00:10:28.279 --> 00:10:32.016
They were given free rein of the pentagon.
00:10:32.016 --> 00:10:34.719
They were allowed to walk around the halls.
00:10:34.719 --> 00:10:37.555
They were allowed, you know, access
00:10:37.555 --> 00:10:39.423
Like just just a complete an, honestly,
00:10:39.423 --> 00:10:42.460
I can understand from the pentagon's
00:10:42.460 --> 00:10:43.761
Perspective, perhaps inappropriate
00:10:43.761 --> 00:10:45.563
Level of access, because what have they been dealing with?
00:10:45.563 --> 00:10:47.765
Leaks.
00:10:47.765 --> 00:10:48.599
They've been dealing with very bad
00:10:48.599 --> 00:10:49.934
Political leaks, the likes of which
00:10:49.934 --> 00:10:51.702
Have turned into impeachments, like the one
00:10:51.702 --> 00:10:54.772
That started with a guy on the national security council
00:10:54.772 --> 00:10:56.941
Leaking to the, leaking to the press.
00:10:56.941 --> 00:11:00.978
Specifically david ignatius in the washington post.
00:11:00.978 --> 00:11:03.514
And then you saw, the general flynn case started with leaks.
00:11:03.514 --> 00:11:06.016
So they've been dealing
00:11:06.016 --> 00:11:07.118
With all of these leaks over the years.
00:11:07.118 --> 00:11:08.486
What they're trying to do is fight those leaks.
00:11:08.486 --> 00:11:11.188
Look, the press is the press.
00:11:11.188 --> 00:11:12.389
The press has the first amendment.
00:11:12.389 --> 00:11:13.657
And we at human events and the post millennial
00:11:13.657 --> 00:11:16.560
Are certainly going to exercise our first amendment rights.
00:11:16.560 --> 00:11:18.963
No one ever tells us what to write.
00:11:18.963 --> 00:11:20.865
Never, never tells me what to say.
00:11:20.865 --> 00:11:22.333
And i would honestly bristle if anyone did.
00:11:22.333 --> 00:11:24.335
And they know that's not how this game works.
00:11:24.335 --> 00:11:26.070
But at the same time, we're
00:11:26.070 --> 00:11:27.271
Going to tell what we hear and what we find out
00:11:27.271 --> 00:11:30.241
Publicly and honestly,
00:11:30.241 --> 00:11:31.942
And we are not going to put any spin on it.
00:11:31.942 --> 00:11:34.078
And people can go
00:11:34.078 --> 00:11:35.146
And look at my record all the way through, the,
00:11:35.146 --> 00:11:37.715
You know, the strikes in iran or the israel,
00:11:37.715 --> 00:11:41.385
You know, the israel conflict with hamas in gaza.
00:11:41.385 --> 00:11:44.288
And we covered it here with charlie every single day.
00:11:44.288 --> 00:11:46.924
When all of that was going on,
00:11:46.924 --> 00:11:48.192
We had a massive live stream about it, telling everybody
00:11:48.192 --> 00:11:51.195
What, what was going to happen and what our analysis was.
00:11:51.195 --> 00:11:53.764
So we are going to stick to that.
00:11:53.764 --> 00:11:56.133
And if the mainstream media is upset that,
00:11:56.133 --> 00:12:00.037
That the pentagon is actually taking these leaks
00:12:00.037 --> 00:12:01.972
Seriously, then i think they kind of seem
00:12:01.972 --> 00:12:04.475
To have forgotten what their actual role is.
00:12:04.475 --> 00:12:07.211
Yeah.
00:12:07.444 --> 00:12:07.878
I mean, i just,
00:12:07.878 --> 00:12:08.646
You know, i have worked in press
00:12:08.646 --> 00:12:10.781
And media, from a pr perspective,
00:12:10.781 --> 00:12:13.784
You know, i did all of charlie's
00:12:13.784 --> 00:12:15.419
Crisis pr and booked him on all the media hits like crazy
00:12:15.419 --> 00:12:19.323
And really never had anything and handled profiles, etc.
00:12:19.323 --> 00:12:22.193
And i will tell you that, you know, there are good
00:12:22.193 --> 00:12:25.896
People in the press corps that are at the national level,
00:12:25.896 --> 00:12:28.566
Legacy media level.
00:12:28.566 --> 00:12:30.534
And there are a pit of vipers, that will make up
00:12:30.534 --> 00:12:33.304
The remainder.
00:12:33.304 --> 00:12:34.471
And you have to understand, this is the most entitled,
00:12:34.471 --> 00:12:38.175
Pretentious,
00:12:38.509 --> 00:12:40.744
I would say career that one might choose,
00:12:40.744 --> 00:12:44.481
Or just the disposition of those people
00:12:44.481 --> 00:12:46.383
That, tend to occupy that career in that profession.
00:12:46.383 --> 00:12:49.954
And. yeah, to your point, it doesn't seem like, listen,
00:12:49.954 --> 00:12:52.890
You can work outside of the halls of the pentagon
00:12:52.890 --> 00:12:55.759
And still ask for something on background or off the record.
00:12:55.759 --> 00:12:58.429
They're just saying, like, while you're in this building,
00:12:58.429 --> 00:13:00.965
You cannot do that.
00:13:00.965 --> 00:13:02.199
And that that's the new rule.
00:13:02.199 --> 00:13:03.801
I don't see what the big deal is.
00:13:03.801 --> 00:13:04.935
Post millennial human events and national polls.
00:13:04.935 --> 00:13:07.271
Gateway pundit you know, it's going to be a whole new day
00:13:07.271 --> 00:13:10.774
At the pentagon, and the press is just going to opt out.
00:13:10.774 --> 00:13:13.477
Don't be surprised
00:13:13.477 --> 00:13:14.645
When you don't get the don't get the stories more of a
00:13:14.645 --> 00:13:17.448
Replace the press pool. exactly.
00:13:17.448 --> 00:13:19.717
We are the media now. we'll be right back.
00:13:19.717 --> 00:13:24.355
One out of every five pregnancies in the us
00:13:25.256 --> 00:13:28.325
And an abortion.
00:13:28.325 --> 00:13:30.060
Did you know that
00:13:30.060 --> 00:13:31.061
When a mother sees her baby on an ultrasound
00:13:31.061 --> 00:13:33.163
And hears the heartbeat for the first time,
00:13:33.163 --> 00:13:35.532
It increases the chance you'll choose life to 80%.
00:13:35.532 --> 00:13:39.536
An ultrasound is what saves lives.
00:13:39.536 --> 00:13:42.106
They need your help to make free ultrasounds.
00:13:42.106 --> 00:13:44.475
Excessive all through preborn.
00:13:44.475 --> 00:13:46.977
Preborn is a nonprofit organization.
00:13:46.977 --> 00:13:49.680
They save 200 babies a day, but they need your help
00:13:49.680 --> 00:13:53.150
To save more precious lives.
00:13:53.150 --> 00:13:54.852
For only $28.
00:13:54.852 --> 00:13:57.154
Your generous donation provides a free, life
00:13:57.154 --> 00:13:59.723
Saving ultrasound to a woman in need.
00:13:59.723 --> 00:14:02.693
It was like instant love.
00:14:02.693 --> 00:14:04.662
Like i just felt already like, i love you so much.
00:14:04.662 --> 00:14:08.499
Preborn continues to help mothers
00:14:08.499 --> 00:14:10.534
Throughout their pregnancy
00:14:10.534 --> 00:14:12.002
And for up to two years after the child is born.
00:14:12.002 --> 00:14:14.905
You can help rescue these innocent preborn children
00:14:14.905 --> 00:14:17.474
By visiting preborn.com/life
00:14:17.474 --> 00:14:20.511
Or call 1855601 baby to donate today.
00:14:20.511 --> 00:14:25.002
Or call 1855601 baby to donate today.
00:14:25.002 --> 00:14:34.030
We have a third person going to be joining
00:14:34.898 --> 00:14:37.233
Us, the great megan basham from she.
00:14:37.233 --> 00:14:41.104
Let's go.
00:14:41.104 --> 00:14:42.339
She is the author of the new york times best selling book.
00:14:42.339 --> 00:14:47.143
They couldn't keep her off shepherds for sale.
00:14:47.143 --> 00:14:49.846
So, megan, you, you had this.
00:14:49.846 --> 00:14:52.682
Really?
00:14:52.682 --> 00:14:53.350
I think just,
00:14:53.350 --> 00:14:54.517
You know, sometimes you see somebody, they crystallize
00:14:54.517 --> 00:14:57.721
Something for you in a moment, in a tweet, in a thought.
00:14:57.721 --> 00:15:02.058
And this has been something
00:15:02.058 --> 00:15:03.760
That's really been bothering me, actually.
00:15:03.760 --> 00:15:05.528
And i had i didn't have words for it.
00:15:05.528 --> 00:15:07.564
But, you know, obviously when charlie, was murdered,
00:15:07.564 --> 00:15:11.434
There was this amazing outpouring of support and love
00:15:11.434 --> 00:15:14.804
And rightly so.
00:15:14.804 --> 00:15:15.705
And so, like, i'm not here to
00:15:15.705 --> 00:15:17.340
To hold people like i don't i'm not trying to be a jerk.
00:15:17.340 --> 00:15:20.944
I don't want to be like you. didn't you?
00:15:20.944 --> 00:15:22.579
You weren't 100% on board before.
00:15:22.579 --> 00:15:24.848
And so now you can't say anything nice.
00:15:24.848 --> 00:15:26.316
Now that's what i'm saying.
00:15:26.316 --> 00:15:27.550
I actually think that's a good thing.
00:15:27.550 --> 00:15:28.651
Like i want you. it was megan. not on board.
00:15:28.651 --> 00:15:30.520
Get her off the show.
00:15:30.520 --> 00:15:31.688
Yeah, so this is a debate. megan, we're about to host.
00:15:31.688 --> 00:15:34.124
I was always like, you it right now, but you said this.
00:15:34.124 --> 00:15:37.460
Let's go ahead and throw this up to 92.
00:15:37.460 --> 00:15:39.896
Charlie kirk, two young men.
00:15:39.896 --> 00:15:41.197
You need to go to a bible study instead of a bar.
00:15:41.197 --> 00:15:44.000
And yet, our evangelical leadership
00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:46.069
Class kept him at arm's distance
00:15:46.069 --> 00:15:48.204
Because he was an outspoken conservative
00:15:48.204 --> 00:15:50.073
And trump supporter.
00:15:50.073 --> 00:15:51.374
All caps.
00:15:51.374 --> 00:15:52.042
That's what the problem is.
00:15:52.042 --> 00:15:54.644
And i just thought that was so well put in.
00:15:54.644 --> 00:15:57.947
Well, a point well made, megan, because like, yes, everybody
00:15:57.947 --> 00:16:02.452
Could, you know, especially in evangelical circles,
00:16:02.452 --> 00:16:04.921
We're not talking about antifa. here are the far left wackos.
00:16:04.921 --> 00:16:07.457
Of course they said this is terrible.
00:16:07.457 --> 00:16:09.192
We condemn this. this is how tragic.
00:16:09.192 --> 00:16:11.261
And our heart goes out, all this stuff.
00:16:11.261 --> 00:16:12.762
But you're right that in life
00:16:12.762 --> 00:16:15.965
I mean, by the way, our our faith chapters,
00:16:15.965 --> 00:16:19.669
Our network of churches has doubled.
00:16:19.669 --> 00:16:21.471
So there's this is this is a mixed bag.
00:16:21.471 --> 00:16:23.373
There's good there's good stories here.
00:16:23.373 --> 00:16:24.641
But there is in big eva, as we call it.
00:16:24.641 --> 00:16:27.210
I was meeting with a pastor yesterday that said
00:16:27.210 --> 00:16:29.746
Big eva is under god's judgment in his opinion.
00:16:29.746 --> 00:16:32.882
Okay. you can take. great.
00:16:32.882 --> 00:16:34.117
I agree okay. so so maybe start there.
00:16:34.117 --> 00:16:36.686
And what is the what is the issue here.
00:16:36.686 --> 00:16:39.923
That is holding big eva back.
00:16:40.557 --> 00:16:42.392
What is getting in their way from an embrace wholeheartedly.
00:16:42.392 --> 00:16:45.261
Somebody like charlie.
00:16:45.261 --> 00:16:47.130
Yeah.
00:16:47.130 --> 00:16:47.931
I'm so glad that you invited me on
00:16:47.931 --> 00:16:49.566
To talk about this, andrew, because it drives me nuts.
00:16:49.566 --> 00:16:51.734
And if you follow me on x,
00:16:51.734 --> 00:16:53.236
You probably have picked up how much it drives me nuts.
00:16:53.236 --> 00:16:56.072
That there is this double standard about embracing
00:16:56.072 --> 00:16:59.509
Somebody, who is doing evangelism, who is speaking
00:16:59.509 --> 00:17:03.413
In the christian space, but who is politically connected,
00:17:03.413 --> 00:17:07.183
Because you will have an organization
00:17:07.183 --> 00:17:09.219
Like the gospel coalition.
00:17:09.219 --> 00:17:10.820
It's a media outlet.
00:17:10.820 --> 00:17:12.322
They also have their, keller center for cultural engagement
00:17:12.322 --> 00:17:16.025
And their fellows, they're it's extremely well known.
00:17:16.025 --> 00:17:19.362
And what they do is they will bring on people like,
00:17:19.362 --> 00:17:22.899
Michael ware,
00:17:22.899 --> 00:17:24.334
Who is a democratic operative
00:17:24.334 --> 00:17:25.869
Who worked in the obama administration,
00:17:25.869 --> 00:17:28.371
And they will put him forward as somebody who is doing faith
00:17:28.371 --> 00:17:31.708
And politics combined very well.
00:17:31.708 --> 00:17:34.444
They will also have someone
00:17:34.444 --> 00:17:35.678
Like justin gibney of the and campaign,
00:17:35.678 --> 00:17:38.548
Someone who our friend allie beth stuckey has covered a lot,
00:17:38.548 --> 00:17:41.784
Who is a democratic activist, even as he kind of tours
00:17:41.784 --> 00:17:45.855
To these,
00:17:45.855 --> 00:17:47.023
Concert allegedly conservative churches and conferences.
00:17:47.023 --> 00:17:49.592
So they're happy to welcome him.
00:17:49.592 --> 00:17:51.327
But they were never happy to welcome charlie.
00:17:51.327 --> 00:17:53.796
You never saw charlie spoken well of on the gospel
00:17:53.796 --> 00:17:57.367
Coalition.
00:17:57.367 --> 00:17:58.501
You never saw him being invited to their conferences.
00:17:58.501 --> 00:18:01.638
And, i don't know if you have this.
00:18:01.638 --> 00:18:03.406
I sent this over to you,
00:18:03.406 --> 00:18:04.741
But this was the attitude that they took with charlie,
00:18:04.741 --> 00:18:07.310
In 2021, one of their primary writers
00:18:07.310 --> 00:18:10.980
And, vice president over at the conservative christian
00:18:10.980 --> 00:18:14.784
Publisher crossway said something like, you know,
00:18:14.784 --> 00:18:18.655
You don't have to give charlie kirk more views, right?
00:18:18.655 --> 00:18:22.458
Yeah. 331 put that put that up. yeah.
00:18:22.458 --> 00:18:25.028
It's a it's a tweet.
00:18:25.028 --> 00:18:26.162
331 there you go.
00:18:26.162 --> 00:18:29.199
That perfectly encapsulates
00:18:29.199 --> 00:18:31.267
Sort of the attitude that they took towards charlie.
00:18:31.267 --> 00:18:34.103
You did not see him getting invited to, chapels
00:18:34.103 --> 00:18:38.107
To speak at, say, wheaton or biola
00:18:38.107 --> 00:18:41.511
Or even grove city or any of these colleges
00:18:41.511 --> 00:18:44.647
That are supposed to be conservative,
00:18:44.647 --> 00:18:46.716
Christian colleges, orthodox colleges.
00:18:46.716 --> 00:18:48.618
So they were happy to have the democratic operatives
00:18:48.618 --> 00:18:51.354
On, but they were not happy to have charlie on.
00:18:51.354 --> 00:18:54.524
And then even further, you know,
00:18:54.524 --> 00:18:56.392
When charlie was assassinated, when he was martyred.
00:18:56.392 --> 00:18:59.596
And i want to use that word very specifically,
00:18:59.596 --> 00:19:03.299
They were put in an awkward position
00:19:03.299 --> 00:19:05.101
Because suddenly people who hadn't been paying
00:19:05.101 --> 00:19:07.704
Attention that closely saw an outpouring of love
00:19:07.704 --> 00:19:11.908
For the lord, a strong, bold christian witness.
00:19:11.908 --> 00:19:16.446
And i
00:19:16.679 --> 00:19:17.914
Think that served as a rebuke to the sort of squishy faith
00:19:17.914 --> 00:19:20.550
That has been embraced
00:19:20.550 --> 00:19:23.286
And the kind of compromises that we've seen
00:19:23.286 --> 00:19:26.022
In big evangelicalism.
00:19:26.022 --> 00:19:27.624
So suddenly there was this stark, contrast
00:19:27.624 --> 00:19:31.027
To what they had been doing, and that put them, i think,
00:19:31.027 --> 00:19:34.731
In a difficult position.
00:19:34.731 --> 00:19:35.732
So you did see some well-wishes after that,
00:19:35.732 --> 00:19:38.134
But just as quickly as you saw the well-wishes
00:19:38.134 --> 00:19:40.637
And you saw the the la manson thing,
00:19:40.637 --> 00:19:42.272
We're very sorry that this happened.
00:19:42.272 --> 00:19:43.773
They were very careful not to praise his politics.
00:19:43.773 --> 00:19:47.510
And after that you started to even see,
00:19:47.510 --> 00:19:50.046
I mean, maybe it took
00:19:50.046 --> 00:19:50.980
Maybe a week, two weeks before the heavily
00:19:50.980 --> 00:19:53.416
Critical article started to come out.
00:19:53.416 --> 00:19:54.951
So then christianity today ran, you know, something on.
00:19:54.951 --> 00:19:59.255
Well, the black voices in our churches are not so happy
00:19:59.255 --> 00:20:02.659
That we are lamenting charlie kirk's death.
00:20:02.659 --> 00:20:05.862
And by the way, i also want to add christianity
00:20:05.862 --> 00:20:07.997
Today to those who were
00:20:07.997 --> 00:20:09.165
Very dismissive of charlie before his death,
00:20:09.165 --> 00:20:12.035
But if you went to some of these organizations
00:20:12.035 --> 00:20:14.304
And asked them, why don't you include charlie
00:20:14.304 --> 00:20:16.806
In some of your events, why don't you invite him?
00:20:16.806 --> 00:20:18.808
I mean, he's the most popular and persuasive
00:20:18.808 --> 00:20:22.612
Speaker on conservative campuses and all
00:20:22.612 --> 00:20:25.848
Campuses, really bringing a gospel message.
00:20:25.848 --> 00:20:28.584
Why would you not invite him and include him?
00:20:28.584 --> 00:20:30.420
And what they would tell you is that third way thing,
00:20:30.420 --> 00:20:32.655
Which is, well, we don't want to be political.
00:20:32.655 --> 00:20:35.024
We don't want to throw up a political obstacle
00:20:35.024 --> 00:20:36.893
To people coming to christ.
00:20:36.893 --> 00:20:38.194
And yet one that wasn't true because they would have left
00:20:38.194 --> 00:20:41.831
Wing, quote unquote christians.
00:20:41.831 --> 00:20:44.000
I question the faith of some of those people,
00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:45.968
But they would have people who worked
00:20:45.968 --> 00:20:47.370
In the obama administration.
00:20:47.370 --> 00:20:48.604
They would have people
00:20:48.604 --> 00:20:49.238
Who are democratic activists
00:20:49.238 --> 00:20:50.973
Coming and being a part of their organization.
00:20:50.973 --> 00:20:52.909
So that wasn't true.
00:20:52.909 --> 00:20:54.610
And then the other thing was, i think that charlie,
00:20:54.610 --> 00:20:57.180
And i didn't have time to grab a clip of this,
00:20:57.180 --> 00:20:59.482
But it's circulating out there on social media.
00:20:59.482 --> 00:21:01.551
He wasn't afraid
00:21:01.551 --> 00:21:02.752
To call out their sins, the big evangelical machine sense.
00:21:02.752 --> 00:21:06.289
And i think that is
00:21:06.289 --> 00:21:07.190
Another reason that they didn't want him,
00:21:07.190 --> 00:21:08.491
Because who knows what he might say.
00:21:08.491 --> 00:21:11.227
You know, he he kind of boldly called out biola,
00:21:11.227 --> 00:21:14.163
Which is a well known evangelical, institution
00:21:14.163 --> 00:21:17.433
School.
00:21:17.433 --> 00:21:18.167
He said, look, biola is lost.
00:21:18.167 --> 00:21:20.203
They have brought in transgender ideology.
00:21:20.203 --> 00:21:22.905
They are teaching queer theory.
00:21:22.905 --> 00:21:25.007
And for that reason i cannot recommend their school.
00:21:25.007 --> 00:21:27.944
Now, that is not how you know, the associational games
00:21:27.944 --> 00:21:31.414
Are played in big evangelicalism.
00:21:31.414 --> 00:21:33.616
So charlie didn't play the game.
00:21:33.616 --> 00:21:35.151
And so, you know, they didn't invite him
00:21:35.151 --> 00:21:36.919
For that reason,
00:21:36.919 --> 00:21:37.887
Even though he was more effective
00:21:37.887 --> 00:21:40.556
At bringing young people to christ
00:21:40.556 --> 00:21:42.258
Than anyone else in our generation.
00:21:42.258 --> 00:21:44.127
And, you know, i've seen it in my own life.
00:21:44.127 --> 00:21:45.661
Just this week, my husband has a young trainer,
00:21:45.661 --> 00:21:48.831
You know, buff belt, 20 something, tatted up,
00:21:48.831 --> 00:21:52.635
And he came to us a couple of weeks ago
00:21:52.635 --> 00:21:54.771
After charlie's death and just said, hey,
00:21:54.771 --> 00:21:56.539
Can i come to church with you?
00:21:56.539 --> 00:21:57.640
I am feeling really affected by all this,
00:21:57.640 --> 00:21:59.709
And you've been inviting me, and i want to come.
00:21:59.709 --> 00:22:01.778
This these are testing moments in our culture.
00:22:02.678 --> 00:22:04.914
These are testing moments.
00:22:04.914 --> 00:22:06.149
And you either pass the test or you fail it.
00:22:06.149 --> 00:22:08.985
And the gospel
00:22:08.985 --> 00:22:10.019
Will march forward and the revival that charlie's
00:22:10.019 --> 00:22:12.655
Martyrdom has sparked will march forward.
00:22:12.655 --> 00:22:15.358
And, the question is, do you want to be a part of it
00:22:15.358 --> 00:22:17.960
Or not? megan basham this was excellent.
00:22:17.960 --> 00:22:19.896
I so enjoyed this and we'll see you tomorrow.
00:22:19.896 --> 00:22:22.965
Thanks so much.
00:22:22.965 --> 00:22:25.835
We truly are living in a historic time.
00:22:26.702 --> 00:22:29.572
After 738 days, the 20 living israeli hostages
00:22:29.572 --> 00:22:33.709
Have been released from captivity
00:22:33.709 --> 00:22:35.945
And those who were killed will finally rest in peace near
00:22:35.945 --> 00:22:38.381
Their loved ones. praise god!
00:22:38.381 --> 00:22:40.183
In this time of celebration, our good friends
00:22:40.183 --> 00:22:42.385
At the international fellowship of christians and jews
00:22:42.385 --> 00:22:45.121
Send their deepest gratitude for your prayers
00:22:45.121 --> 00:22:47.457
And unwavering support.
00:22:47.457 --> 00:22:48.724
Thanks to you, the fellowship has provided
00:22:48.724 --> 00:22:50.827
$300 million in emergency aid since october 7th,
00:22:50.827 --> 00:22:54.831
Including millions in direct support for the hostages
00:22:54.831 --> 00:22:57.834
And their families.
00:22:57.834 --> 00:22:58.901
Of course, the road ahead is still a long one.
00:22:58.901 --> 00:23:01.604
Much needs to be done to restore
00:23:01.604 --> 00:23:03.272
And revive these victims of terrorism.
00:23:03.272 --> 00:23:05.575
But that's exactly what the fellowship does.
00:23:05.575 --> 00:23:07.643
For example,
00:23:07.643 --> 00:23:08.544
They're assisting returned hostages,
00:23:08.544 --> 00:23:10.446
Along with their families and friends, with immediate
00:23:10.446 --> 00:23:13.115
Medical, psychological and financial support.
00:23:13.115 --> 00:23:15.852
They're also providing
00:23:15.852 --> 00:23:16.819
Mental health care for israelis of all ages.
00:23:16.819 --> 00:23:19.622
To find out how you can help, visit ifc.org.
00:23:19.622 --> 00:23:23.493
That's ifc.org.
00:23:23.493 --> 00:23:23.493

Jack Posobiec & Megan Basham: October 24, 2025 | Charlie Kirk Today

October 24, 2025 | 25:2

Closed captions

Share