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Charlie Kirk Today | Jake Posobiec & Libby Emmons: March 17, 2026 | Charlie Kirk Today | March 17, 2026
- We got
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- A a very contentious war going on in iran.
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- And i think what the best thing that we can do on this show
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- Is how to walk through this
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- Very tumultuous moment
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- That we're living in, where i think a lot of us
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- Just want to focus on domestic issues.
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- We want to focus on nation building at home.
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- Unfortunately, that's
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- Not exactly the most obvious thing for any of us
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- To do because of so much noise that's going around.
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- Blake, i'm going to throw to you.
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- First and foremost, you ask the question, what is maga?
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- Define it for us.
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- What is maga right now, in this moment with iran,
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- With, like i said, the e drama and so much else?
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- Well, i mean, part of the reason,
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- The reason, you know, we titled that way is we did of course,
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- We've seen, we saw friction over the weekend.
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- We won't get
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- Into the full details of it because it's a little silly.
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- But, you know, megyn kelly was in a fight with mark levine
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- That's obviously rooted in the iran stuff.
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- And, you know, obviously personality friction as well.
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- And what happened last night was the president on truth
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- Social decided to weigh in on it personally.
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- And he took the side he didn't name meghan,
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- But he took he supported mark levine.
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- And one of the lines he said at the end of his post
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- Was basically that people who are bashing levine,
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- Going after him, those people are not maga, i am.
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- That's what he said.
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- And one interpretation of maga is it basically is
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- It is the people who support it.
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- It is president trump, president trump,
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- He ran on that slogan.
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- He has the power to define what that slogan is.
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- But does everyone feel that way?
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- Because a lot of people have tried
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- To articulate a maga agenda in terms of issues,
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- Whether that's on immigration, whether
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- That's on interventionism, whether that's on trade,
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- And a lot of other stuff.
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- And so that's kind of why it's an open question,
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- Because i think there is is there
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- Is there a maga that stands separately
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- From the president himself and the president himself?
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- I think, you know, unsurprisingly, given trump's
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- Personality,
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- He does mostly see it in terms of his personal branding.
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- Yeah.
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- And so, jack, i think,
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- You know, that is one contention, right?
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- This is something that
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- The president has said over and over again, i am maga.
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- And those who kind of come at me right now,
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- They're not loyal to the cause.
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- You are an og 2016 2015 maga.
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- You know, i would call you one of the leaders
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- On the social media side,
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- And you've been that way for about a decade now.
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- You know,
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- There does seem to be fraying at the, at the, at the fringes
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- Here, especially about foreign policy.
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- So what do you do when everything's up in tumult?
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- People are confused which way to go and what to make of it.
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- How are you approaching this moment?
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- Yeah.
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- So there's,
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- You know, these definitional, questions come up a lot.
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- And at the same time, i would also point out that,
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- You know, maga, the coalition, the people who have voted
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- For trump, that has changed over time as well.
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- So the 2024 coalition, the coalition
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- That charlie worked so hard to put together,
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- The turning point action worked on, that's different
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- Than the 2016 coalition.
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- And the groups.
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- Obviously, it was much more successful in 24, 2016.
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- You know, you can't take anything away
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- From the historic nature of that.
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- It was obviously something that was unprecedented.
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- But 2024,
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- Just in terms of sheer raw numbers, point on the board.
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- Victory was bigger.
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- And the difference, i guess i would say, is that in 2024,
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- It was this coalition that came together where
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- Instead of just, you know, 2016 was sort of like the anti
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- Neocons, the bernie bro's,
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- And you're sort of like traditional republicans.
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- But in 2024 and of course the anti neocons
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- Are obviously you have a lot of consternation.
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- Right now.
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- And so the 2024 coalition
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- Was even broader and bigger than that
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- Because now you got maha, now you've got the libertarians.
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- Now you of course you have the anti neocons.
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- And of course there's a lot of overlap
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- With the with the, you know, libertarian crowd
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- There as well.
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- You've got people who were motivated by covid,
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- You've got to end lockdowns, you got people
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- Who were motivated by die by wokeness.
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- I mean, you just got so many people coming in in 2024
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- That inevitably there was going to be
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- Some friction points between the massive,
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- You know, the massive parts of the massive coalition.
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- And of course, now you've also,
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- In 24, got the zoomers on board,
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- Which is like a whole different,
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- You know, quotient in and of itself.
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- And that was the part that charlie and tp
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- Usa had worked so hard on all through those years.
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- So if you look at it right, like if you were in high school
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- When trump first ran,
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- You know, 2020 4th may have been the first time
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- You voted for,
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- You know, somewhere, you know, voted for president at least.
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- And so you're just doing the math.
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- So this was like the charlie kirk coalition in 2024.
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- And so
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- The way you work on things like this is very simple.
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- Look, donald trump
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- Is the president of united states,
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- Donald trump is the founder of the maga movement.
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- But just like any coalition,
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- They're going to be different elements within that movement.
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- And so,
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- You know, you can get caught up in these definitional games.
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- But i do think that ultimately we're better served by people
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- Just sort of saying like, this is what i stand for.
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- This is what i think the best policy is,
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- And just arguing it out
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- In those terms rather than trying to say,
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- You know, one person is this and one
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- Person isn't allowed to be that.
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- I think that's i think that leads to subtraction.
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- And we all know that victories through addition.
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- Yeah.
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- I mean, i think what you're getting at this coalition all,
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- Truth that we need to build a coalition,
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- There is no more contentious issue on the right.
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- There's just simply not been foreign policy
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- Because the divide between the neocons
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- And the interventionist is not just a divide, it's a chasm.
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- And so, in one sense, as soon as the iran conflict
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- Started, there should be no surprise
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- That this has become
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- So contentious, president trump said.
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- For weeks,
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- He said he willing to move that timeline up or back.
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- So we we kind of are still in that that time of uncertainty.
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- We don't know how this is going to play out.
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- There's a very positive way this could play out.
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- There's a more negative way this could play out,
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- Which is why charlie warned against regime change in iran.
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- Right.
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- We don't know all of the ancillary side effects.
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- We don't know how this,
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- But this could devolve into some sort of civil war,
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- Sectarian strife when within iran,
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- The strait of hormuz is proving particularly tricky
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- And difficult.
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- We're going to get into
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- What the president is trying to do
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- In the strait of hormuz, build a coalition,
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- Of different countries to come in and clear up
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- The strait of hormuz, where allowing indian and chinese,
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- I it sounds like vessels, tankers to go through
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- The strait of hormuz.
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- Yeah. which is, which is fascinating.
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- It seems like the world is sort of flipping,
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- Upside down in many ways, which is why a lot of us
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- Are trying to make sense of it.
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- We're going to continue on this because i think it's
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- The most important conversation
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- That we can have on the right, right now.
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- That we can have on the right, right now.
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- Welcome in libby emmons.
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- She's the editor in chief of the post millennial
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- And human events. welcome, libby.
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- Thanks so much. glad to be here, andrew.
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- And we're joined by jack.
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- But so we're asking a question, libby.
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- And i'd love to get you in on this.
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- You know what is maga, right?
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- We look across the conservative landscape
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- And it's a mess out there right now.
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- And i think, you know, i'm
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- Thinking of the kipling poem where it's like,
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- You know, if you can keep your head
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- When everybody else is losing theirs.
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- But president trump defines it as,
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- You know, this is he's the founder of this movement.
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- And so get in line.
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- He's been very consistent to his credit
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- About iran over the years.
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- A lot of us harbor skepticism
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- About regime change in the middle east.
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- So what do you make of this moment?
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- As you know, everything seems to be a mess out there.
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- Yeah, everything does seem to be a mess out there.
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- And i disagree with trump that maga is trump.
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- I think trump captured an ethos that was already out there.
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- I think
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- He tapped into something that so many americans were feeling,
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- And i think maga has more to do with a set
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- Of values and perspectives than it does a single man.
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- Otherwise it would not be a movement that would continue.
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- And that's a movement that continued
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- Throughout biden's four years.
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- And i think it's a movement
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- That will continue after trump is gone.
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- I think maga has to do with
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- Putting america
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- First american priorities in terms of the domestic
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- Situation, in terms
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- Of prosperity and equal access to opportunity.
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- In a lot of cases,
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- You know, for americans, which means
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- That your schools are decent and you can go to them
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- And attend them, which means that
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- You're getting a fair shake in the housing market.
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- And it's not all being bought up by corporations,
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- You know, which means that
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- When you go to apply for a job or go to apply to college,
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- Your merit is
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- What's taken into consideration,
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- Not some random identity factors.
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- And i think that maga
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- Has to be a set of values more than it can be,
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- Possibly just one man.
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- Otherwise you can't stand for anything right?
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- You can't stand on
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- Shifting sands of perspectives and and ideas.
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- You have to stand for something
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- Or else you know, as they say, you'll fall for anything.
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- Jack, i want to get you back in on this,
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- Because i think, like.
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- By the way, libby, you you probably articulated,
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- Blake's pov pretty well, i would think.
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- But, i'll let blake answer that.
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- Just go ahead. go ahead.
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- Well, no, no. it's great.
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- It's just, now, let's let jack go.
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- Let's look at jack go here.
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- Yeah.
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- Jack, i want to get you to respond to that.
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- But, you know, you are the kind of foreign intel analyst.
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- You're watching this space all the time, but yet
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- You are domestic in your focus as well.
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- How do you marry the two of these right now?
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- Yeah, that's a great point.
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- So, you know, this is obviously like i do
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- A lot of geo poll analysis and, i actually was
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- A navy intelligence officer, you know, and,
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- You know, so this is something that's always,
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- You know, of
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- Great interest when,
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- When we have these things come up, i'm like, finally.
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- So everyone understands why i post maps
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- About chokepoints and maritime trade routes so much.
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- It seems like totally arcane until it everyone finds out
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- How much it really, really matters in the world.
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- And, you know, that being said, the
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- The questions of what will be successful politically
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- Are certainly different from how the world economy operates
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- And how the world economics operate back and forth.
- 00:10:44.039 --> 00:10:47.375
- And so, you know, i i've always said that look,
- 00:10:47.375 --> 00:10:49.511
- I thought that when i was in the united states navy
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- And when i was
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- In the intelligence community serving as i did, that,
- 00:10:53.849 --> 00:10:56.318
- I started to get
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- The feeling that perhaps our focus as a country
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- Was to abroad.
- 00:11:00.622 --> 00:11:02.124
- Our focus was not enough on our own issues,
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- On things that actually mattered
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- To us, on things that actually affected us and our country.
- 00:11:06.728 --> 00:11:09.231
- Like the southern border, like the cartels, like,
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- The issues of problems
- 00:11:12.634 --> 00:11:13.969
- And crime in our city, the issues of mass migration,
- 00:11:13.969 --> 00:11:16.571
- All of those issues are the issues that built
- 00:11:16.571 --> 00:11:20.108
- The maga movement.
- 00:11:20.108 --> 00:11:21.510
- That's what brought us all on board
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- And brought us all together in 2015 and 2016
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- With, of course, the leader and singular
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- Man of that movement being donald j.
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- Trump.
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- And when he came down
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- The golden escalator, that's exactly what he talked about.
- 00:11:33.054 --> 00:11:35.824
- And so certainly it's been this idea
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- That we are going to shift the focus.
- 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:39.561
- And you may or you may kind of say that just analytically,
- 00:11:39.561 --> 00:11:43.498
- I guess you could say that
- 00:11:43.498 --> 00:11:44.866
- If there is a split anymore, it's not within maga.
- 00:11:44.866 --> 00:11:47.569
- The split is more maga.
- 00:11:47.569 --> 00:11:48.937
- And then america first, right?
- 00:11:48.937 --> 00:11:51.006
- So maga is more we back trump.
- 00:11:51.006 --> 00:11:54.242
- We want trump to be, you know, you know he's our guy 100%.
- 00:11:54.242 --> 00:11:58.547
- You know, we may have certain, you know,
- 00:11:58.547 --> 00:11:59.948
- Certain differences on tactics here and there.
- 00:11:59.948 --> 00:12:02.150
- But he we're going to stand with trump.
- 00:12:02.150 --> 00:12:03.552
- Then america first is this group that says
- 00:12:03.552 --> 00:12:06.488
- We don't want to do you know anything foreign?
- 00:12:06.488 --> 00:12:09.891
- It's domestic.
- 00:12:09.891 --> 00:12:10.859
- Only domestic has to be the in the front.
- 00:12:10.859 --> 00:12:12.794
- And that movement is something that interestingly enough,
- 00:12:12.794 --> 00:12:16.164
- You start to see democrats dipping into,
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- You start to see mondaire me
- 00:12:17.933 --> 00:12:19.434
- Talk about this and we when we did
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- The debate analysis, we we talked about that,
- 00:12:21.102 --> 00:12:23.405
- You start to see things like gavin
- 00:12:23.405 --> 00:12:25.240
- Newsom talk about this, where he's saying,
- 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:27.442
- Oh, i want to focus here and not abroad.
- 00:12:27.442 --> 00:12:29.110
- So it's it's become this sort of jump ball i feel right now.
- 00:12:29.110 --> 00:12:33.281
- And i think the democrats are going to try
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- Their next move is going to be to say,
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- Oh, well, you guys are for foreign intervention.
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- We are the true america first.
- 00:12:41.156 --> 00:12:42.824
- So watch for that.
- 00:12:42.824 --> 00:12:43.658
- Blake, i invoked your name earlier.
- 00:12:43.658 --> 00:12:45.694
- I want to give you a chance to come in.
- 00:12:45.694 --> 00:12:46.962
- No, i think that's reasonable.
- 00:12:46.962 --> 00:12:48.530
- I think i think they're all on good points that
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- Especially those of us who've been
- 00:12:51.566 --> 00:12:53.902
- Around this movement a long time.
- 00:12:53.902 --> 00:12:55.871
- There is a strong sense.
- 00:12:55.871 --> 00:12:57.072
- Oh, maga, we want maga to last beyond trump.
- 00:12:57.072 --> 00:13:00.775
- One reason you don't want to say magazines
- 00:13:00.775 --> 00:13:02.711
- Trump is trump will not be around forever.
- 00:13:02.711 --> 00:13:04.980
- Trump will eventually be gone.
- 00:13:04.980 --> 00:13:06.381
- And we still want a movement that is not neocon gop.
- 00:13:06.381 --> 00:13:09.584
- That is not george bush, gop that is not the gop of old.
- 00:13:09.584 --> 00:13:13.588
- But it is also very much the case that
- 00:13:13.588 --> 00:13:18.093
- Through
- 00:13:18.326 --> 00:13:19.261
- Kind of repeated trials, repeated events,
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- Maga has ended up being, for lack of a better term,
- 00:13:21.630 --> 00:13:25.700
- Like like trump has oscillated in different directions.
- 00:13:25.700 --> 00:13:28.737
- He's caught us off guard and he's always stuck around.
- 00:13:28.737 --> 00:13:32.507
- And the movement has really become very much
- 00:13:32.507 --> 00:13:36.578
- How to put this.
- 00:13:36.978 --> 00:13:39.714
- I will say president trump has a point.
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- If he says like, i am maga, and to some extent
- 00:13:42.150 --> 00:13:44.552
- The movement is basically what i say it is because he's
- 00:13:44.552 --> 00:13:47.355
- Repeatedly defined it that way, and he is kind of bashed away
- 00:13:47.355 --> 00:13:50.692
- And like battered off every single challenger
- 00:13:50.692 --> 00:13:53.728
- Who would suggest it was anything else.
- 00:13:53.728 --> 00:13:55.730
- And so i think jack has a point that maybe you need
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- To articulate another phrase
- 00:13:58.033 --> 00:13:59.467
- Like america first or whatever, you want to take
- 00:13:59.467 --> 00:14:02.904
- This package of views.
- 00:14:02.904 --> 00:14:04.339
- So that is not 100% identical to one person.
- 00:14:04.339 --> 00:14:08.677
- And this is the thing about the right.
- 00:14:08.677 --> 00:14:09.811
- The right is more hierarchical.
- 00:14:09.811 --> 00:14:11.479
- We are more inclined to
- 00:14:11.479 --> 00:14:14.849
- Basically get in line behind our guy if he says
- 00:14:14.849 --> 00:14:18.119
- This is the right thing to do,
- 00:14:18.119 --> 00:14:19.187
- If he says, this is what we need to be doing, and
- 00:14:19.187 --> 00:14:23.758
- So, yeah, i think,
- 00:14:24.192 --> 00:14:25.160
- You know, it might be a good idea
- 00:14:25.160 --> 00:14:26.328
- To have another label for the issues that we care about,
- 00:14:26.328 --> 00:14:29.764
- You know?
- 00:14:30.065 --> 00:14:31.166
- So i've gotten attacked, i think, blake, you and i
- 00:14:31.166 --> 00:14:33.268
- On this show for being, you know,
- 00:14:33.268 --> 00:14:35.070
- I think they took a clip out of context.
- 00:14:35.070 --> 00:14:36.972
- The internet did and said we were
- 00:14:36.972 --> 00:14:38.907
- We were departing from charlie's view on iran.
- 00:14:38.907 --> 00:14:41.409
- He was super antiwar.
- 00:14:41.409 --> 00:14:42.978
- And, yeah, charlie was super anti-war.
- 00:14:42.978 --> 00:14:45.780
- But,
- 00:14:45.981 --> 00:14:47.482
- You know, we were warning against the
- 00:14:47.482 --> 00:14:49.818
- The perils of regime change
- 00:14:49.818 --> 00:14:51.219
- In the middle east as well before the lead up.
- 00:14:51.219 --> 00:14:52.921
- But, charlie,
- 00:14:52.921 --> 00:14:54.122
- Sort of in this divide that you're, you're,
- 00:14:54.122 --> 00:14:56.157
- You're mentioning here, jack, it was his decision was always,
- 00:14:56.157 --> 00:15:00.595
- Listen, i worked my butt off to get president trump elected.
- 00:15:00.595 --> 00:15:04.399
- Even when i privately
- 00:15:04.399 --> 00:15:06.267
- Have differences of opinion, i'm going to back the guy
- 00:15:06.267 --> 00:15:08.536
- Because there's been
- 00:15:08.536 --> 00:15:09.537
- No other fighter that we have in the modern era
- 00:15:09.537 --> 00:15:12.340
- That has so embodied the values that i care most about.
- 00:15:12.340 --> 00:15:16.311
- And so i'm going to get behind him
- 00:15:16.311 --> 00:15:18.146
- And we're going to hope for the best.
- 00:15:18.146 --> 00:15:19.381
- I'm going to argue his points.
- 00:15:19.381 --> 00:15:20.548
- There's a there's a point to be made.
- 00:15:20.548 --> 00:15:22.384
- And so i you know, that's kind of what we do here.
- 00:15:22.384 --> 00:15:24.652
- A couple of things i can't abide by.
- 00:15:24.652 --> 00:15:26.287
- I cannot abide by not supporting our troops.
- 00:15:26.287 --> 00:15:28.890
- I cannot abide by not wishing success on this country.
- 00:15:28.890 --> 00:15:32.327
- I cannot abide by any of that stuff.
- 00:15:32.327 --> 00:15:34.329
- I can't abide abide by the the brain rot where you're
- 00:15:34.329 --> 00:15:36.898
- Trying to scapegoat people.
- 00:15:36.898 --> 00:15:38.500
- So, listen.
- 00:15:38.500 --> 00:15:39.834
- Yeah, this these are perilous, gut wrenching times
- 00:15:39.834 --> 00:15:43.271
- That make us all sort of,
- 00:15:43.271 --> 00:15:44.639
- You know, wonder how it's going to work out.
- 00:15:44.639 --> 00:15:47.108
- But we've been here before with president trump.
- 00:15:47.108 --> 00:15:49.077
- Charlie understood this, and,
- 00:15:49.077 --> 00:15:51.379
- He ultimately did place his trust and his support
- 00:15:51.379 --> 00:15:54.115
- Behind the president when he made tough calls.
- 00:15:54.115 --> 00:15:56.051
- So i think we're just sort of stuck in this this time.
- 00:15:56.051 --> 00:15:59.220
- You know, president trump said 4 to 5 weeks.
- 00:15:59.220 --> 00:16:01.022
- Okay. we're in the 4 to 5 weeks here.
- 00:16:01.022 --> 00:16:02.857
- Buckle up everybody. here we go.
- 00:16:02.857 --> 00:16:04.793
- Let's hope this ends well.
- 00:16:04.793 --> 00:16:05.860
- And let's pray for the success of our troops.
- 00:16:05.860 --> 00:16:07.695
- Libby.
- 00:16:07.695 --> 00:16:08.596
- What am i missing now?
- 00:16:08.596 --> 00:16:10.598
- I agree with you on that. to a certain extent, yes.
- 00:16:10.598 --> 00:16:13.101
- And now that we're in this war, i want us to win it.
- 00:16:13.101 --> 00:16:15.336
- I want us to win it decisively.
- 00:16:15.336 --> 00:16:16.771
- And i want our troops to come home and be out of harm's way.
- 00:16:16.771 --> 00:16:19.874
- That's a huge deal.
- 00:16:19.874 --> 00:16:20.742
- I support our troops 100%.
- 00:16:20.742 --> 00:16:22.710
- I do think that it's difficult to look at this entanglement
- 00:16:22.710 --> 00:16:26.614
- As someone who is, pretty much anti war
- 00:16:26.614 --> 00:16:29.851
- And come away with,
- 00:16:30.318 --> 00:16:31.352
- You know, and come away with the perspective
- 00:16:31.352 --> 00:16:33.421
- That this was the right thing to do at the right time.
- 00:16:33.421 --> 00:16:36.424
- I'm not sure about that.
- 00:16:36.424 --> 00:16:37.792
- You know, and i think time will tell.
- 00:16:37.792 --> 00:16:39.127
- And certainly history will let us know.
- 00:16:39.127 --> 00:16:43.011
- And certainly history will let us know.
- 00:16:43.011 --> 00:16:47.909
- Going to play, cut 26.
- 00:16:48.376 --> 00:16:50.545
- Charlie, talking about this very exact dynamic.
- 00:16:50.545 --> 00:16:54.216
- Cut 26.
- 00:16:54.216 --> 00:16:55.383
- Let me tell you what president trump has in front of him.
- 00:16:55.383 --> 00:16:57.919
- And this is the stuff of what statements statesmen are made.
- 00:16:57.919 --> 00:17:01.423
- A statesman is a man at the highest moment
- 00:17:02.324 --> 00:17:05.193
- When you have the weight of the shoulders,
- 00:17:05.193 --> 00:17:06.995
- Like churchill or lincoln of the world on your shoulders,
- 00:17:06.995 --> 00:17:10.232
- You act with prudence and not on ideological fervor.
- 00:17:10.232 --> 00:17:13.935
- President donald trump is a man made for this moment.
- 00:17:15.003 --> 00:17:17.506
- This is why
- 00:17:17.506 --> 00:17:19.074
- President trump was elected president of the united states.
- 00:17:19.074 --> 00:17:22.244
- It's the man in the arena that counts.
- 00:17:22.244 --> 00:17:24.379
- But i encourage you, as you view the next couple of days,
- 00:17:24.379 --> 00:17:27.849
- To not view things overly ideological.
- 00:17:27.849 --> 00:17:31.653
- In fact, we should resist ideological fervor.
- 00:17:31.653 --> 00:17:34.623
- Resist ideological fervor.
- 00:17:34.623 --> 00:17:36.391
- The man in the arena.
- 00:17:36.391 --> 00:17:37.993
- I am still on this point that yes,
- 00:17:37.993 --> 00:17:41.263
- I was not pro and you know, regime change in iran.
- 00:17:41.263 --> 00:17:44.933
- But i will back president trump's play here.
- 00:17:44.933 --> 00:17:47.569
- He's earned our trust.
- 00:17:47.569 --> 00:17:48.904
- He is the man in the arena right now.
- 00:17:48.904 --> 00:17:50.572
- And we have to must pray for the success
- 00:17:50.572 --> 00:17:53.942
- Of our troops and our country, that this ultimately
- 00:17:53.942 --> 00:17:56.511
- Would work out in a way
- 00:17:56.511 --> 00:17:57.712
- That would benefit america first as we try to define it.
- 00:17:57.712 --> 00:18:01.183
- But listen, the longer this goes on, there's no doubt
- 00:18:01.183 --> 00:18:04.186
- That this will become more and more difficult.
- 00:18:04.186 --> 00:18:07.022
- All right, libby,
- 00:18:07.022 --> 00:18:08.190
- I'm going to get to your, why we actually brought you
- 00:18:08.190 --> 00:18:10.959
- On to the show today, and that is that the oscars,
- 00:18:10.959 --> 00:18:13.295
- The oscars took a swipe at the all-american
- 00:18:13.295 --> 00:18:16.031
- Halftime show yesterday, and so we got to play it.
- 00:18:16.031 --> 00:18:18.934
- Cut 17.
- 00:18:18.934 --> 00:18:19.968
- I should warn you, tonight could get political.
- 00:18:19.968 --> 00:18:22.804
- Okay.
- 00:18:22.804 --> 00:18:23.605
- And if that makes you uncomfortable,
- 00:18:23.605 --> 00:18:25.507
- There's an alternate oscars being hosted by kid rock.
- 00:18:25.507 --> 00:18:29.177
- Yeah, it's at the dave and busters down the street.
- 00:18:29.177 --> 00:18:32.647
- A lot of tickets for that.
- 00:18:33.215 --> 00:18:34.649
- All right, libby, we see that.
- 00:18:34.649 --> 00:18:36.451
- We see
- 00:18:36.451 --> 00:18:37.819
- Snl is got tucker carlson, you know, making fun of him.
- 00:18:37.819 --> 00:18:41.656
- And we are living through a remarkable cultural moment
- 00:18:41.656 --> 00:18:45.260
- That we need to pause and appreciate.
- 00:18:45.260 --> 00:18:47.696
- And that's why i brought you on here.
- 00:18:47.696 --> 00:18:49.598
- What do you make of this,
- 00:18:49.598 --> 00:18:51.132
- The oscars, what do you make of snl?
- 00:18:51.132 --> 00:18:53.702
- All of it.
- 00:18:53.702 --> 00:18:55.470
- Yeah.
- 00:18:55.470 --> 00:18:56.605
- So, you know, the thing with the thing with the oscars,
- 00:18:56.605 --> 00:18:59.374
- Conan o'brien.
- 00:18:59.374 --> 00:19:00.342
- Somebody didn't tell him that
- 00:19:00.342 --> 00:19:01.610
- 25 million people actually streamed the turning point.
- 00:19:01.610 --> 00:19:04.579
- No. i'm so libby. yes.
- 00:19:04.579 --> 00:19:07.482
- The way that nielsen rates it, we had over 50 million people.
- 00:19:07.482 --> 00:19:11.353
- Oh. well, okay.
- 00:19:11.353 --> 00:19:12.721
- I was just tracking back this morning
- 00:19:12.721 --> 00:19:14.456
- Through my previous notes, and i didn't see that.
- 00:19:14.456 --> 00:19:16.625
- So amazing. congratulations again.
- 00:19:16.625 --> 00:19:18.927
- Thank you. yeah. someone didn't tell conan that.
- 00:19:18.927 --> 00:19:21.029
- Someone didn't tell conan
- 00:19:21.029 --> 00:19:22.097
- That americans are moving away from the box office.
- 00:19:22.097 --> 00:19:25.333
- You know, like never before.
- 00:19:25.333 --> 00:19:26.568
- I took a look
- 00:19:26.568 --> 00:19:27.636
- At some of the stats and american beauty, which won
- 00:19:27.636 --> 00:19:30.972
- The best picture back in 2000, made about the same
- 00:19:30.972 --> 00:19:34.109
- As sinners, which, sort of came in second place this year.
- 00:19:34.109 --> 00:19:37.712
- So it's not like things are going better
- 00:19:37.712 --> 00:19:39.848
- For hollywood than they were even 26 years ago.
- 00:19:39.848 --> 00:19:43.184
- Nobody's really interested in that.
- 00:19:43.184 --> 00:19:45.320
- People don't like watching the oscars.
- 00:19:45.320 --> 00:19:47.155
- You know,
- 00:19:47.155 --> 00:19:49.257
- So i think that i think that's something to recognize.
- 00:19:49.257 --> 00:19:52.127
- Timothy charlemagne's recent comments about opera
- 00:19:52.127 --> 00:19:54.829
- And ballet being dying art forms could just as easily
- 00:19:54.829 --> 00:19:57.832
- Be applied to the cinema, that these hollywood people
- 00:19:57.832 --> 00:20:01.903
- Should recognize that, and instead they just lament
- 00:20:01.903 --> 00:20:04.272
- That more people should go to the box office.
- 00:20:04.272 --> 00:20:05.940
- If you look at some of the
- 00:20:05.940 --> 00:20:07.175
- Oscars speeches or the sag speeches, the golden globes
- 00:20:07.175 --> 00:20:09.878
- Speeches this year during the whole awards
- 00:20:09.878 --> 00:20:12.747
- Season, you'll see multiple multiple directors,
- 00:20:12.747 --> 00:20:15.583
- Writers, actors telling people to bring your kids
- 00:20:15.583 --> 00:20:18.253
- To the movies.
- 00:20:18.253 --> 00:20:19.287
- These are the same kinds of
- 00:20:19.287 --> 00:20:20.322
- Comments that i heard when i was a kid.
- 00:20:20.322 --> 00:20:21.823
- Bring your kids to the theater.
- 00:20:21.823 --> 00:20:23.291
- Bring your kids to the opera.
- 00:20:23.291 --> 00:20:25.193
- Let them know.
- 00:20:25.193 --> 00:20:26.461
- Bring them to the ballet, you know, like all of this stuff.
- 00:20:26.461 --> 00:20:28.697
- And instead,
- 00:20:28.697 --> 00:20:29.564
- These are still just dying art forms,
- 00:20:29.564 --> 00:20:31.132
- And eventually they will disappear
- 00:20:31.132 --> 00:20:33.168
- To a certain extent or become niche or whatever.
- 00:20:33.168 --> 00:20:35.837
- And as for snl, yeah, they had some funny jokes.
- 00:20:35.837 --> 00:20:39.140
- Yeah,
- 00:20:39.140 --> 00:20:39.674
- I've actually snl actually
- 00:20:40.241 --> 00:20:41.876
- Had a great, my hospital like my home.
- 00:20:41.876 --> 00:20:44.946
- We, i think we played it in the cold though,
- 00:20:45.880 --> 00:20:47.115
- But it was actually funny.
- 00:20:47.115 --> 00:20:48.116
- Jack, you people don't know this, but you have
- 00:20:48.116 --> 00:20:51.286
- You have your own, critic, you know, background
- 00:20:51.286 --> 00:20:55.023
- Film critic, tv critic background here. true.
- 00:20:55.023 --> 00:20:57.659
- So what do you make of this cultural moment?
- 00:20:57.659 --> 00:20:59.394
- We're living it.
- 00:20:59.394 --> 00:21:00.228
- It does feel a bit like we're such a
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- Our side is so completely messed up
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- In somebody's ways
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- That that we're giving them lots of fodder.
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- But what's your take?
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- Well, first of all, you know,
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- I got to respond on the halftime show
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- Because our ratings clearly, clearly,
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- If you look at
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- What the turning point events team,
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- If you look at what the turning
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- Point action team
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- And everyone coming together did to get the ratings
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- For the number one american youtube live stream in history,
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- 40 million households day, viewing in the first 24 hours.
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- And if you computed it the way, as you say, computer,
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- The way nielsen does household,
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- You'd probably be looking at 50 to 60 million people
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- Because they always use the multiplier
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- For the super bowl viewership.
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- And we know that there were people
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- At at least twos
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- And threes and fours watching our halftime show, so.
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- Oh, so i'd love to go back.
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- And conan,
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- You have not had anything that's rated in 20 plus years.
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- You went down to haiti and we're trying to like,
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- Talk about how great haiti is and walking around sipping mai
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- Tais while you got cannibals named barbecue running around.
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- So no conan, turning point usa blue
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- Absolutely blew the oscars out of the water, and i can't
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- Wait to see their overnights because i know it's lower.
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- When you look at the cultural moment,
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- You know, i'm just going to say it.
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- I tweeted this morning about the oscars
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- That the oscars
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- Has now become a contest
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- Of who can make the most anti-white movie.
- 00:22:21.876 --> 00:22:24.612
- So you've got sinners, which is basically from dusk
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- Till dawn with with blm killing white people.
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- Then you've got, the, the, the leo
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- Leonardo dicaprio movie,
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- And it's an antifa raid on an ice facility.
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- I mean, it's like the most insane,
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- One fight after another.
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- And so it's just the most insane liberal,
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- Far left anti-white stuff gets the most awards.
- 00:22:45.700 --> 00:22:49.437
- You know, i tweeted out that i didn't even know
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- That it was going on last night because i didn't.
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- I was busy
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- Hanging out with my kids, and, i was sent the clip, and
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- I just said i didn't realize it was going on.
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- But it's very clear that we live
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- Rent free in their minds because they all noticed it.
- 00:23:00.482 --> 00:23:03.451
- And i just want to say one last thing.
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- While the world is losing its mind, we're going to keep ours.
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- And that's why we do things like the halftime show.
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- That's why the two largest cultural touchpoint moments
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- Of the last six months or charlie's memorial
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- And the halftime show.
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- We are going to keep building, keep moving forward
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- Because the only way through is through.
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