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Charlie Kirk Today | James Orr & Daniel Ogaloma: October 22, 2025 | Charlie Kirk Today | October 22, 2025
- Brought to you in part by the
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- International fellowship of christians and jews.
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- Andrew
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- Calvert here, executive producer of this fine show.
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- Honored to be with you.
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- You know, president trump is putting up win after win.
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- And, you know, it just occurs to me
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- That this is exactly what democracy looks like.
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- So, if you guys could just play, that clip, please,
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- This is what tomorrow.
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- This is what democracy looks like.
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- Here's what democracy looks like.
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- This is what democracy looks like.
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- Yes, this is what democracy looks like.
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- And with that, let's play 151
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- And deportation numbers hitting record highs
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- Since president trump's return to office, his administration
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- Booting more than 515,000 illegal migrants so far,
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- 1.6 million illegals have left the country on their own,
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- With immigration agents arresting 485,000 dhs saying
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- That trump is set to shatter
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- The us deportation record by the end of 2025.
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- What does that this is what democracy looks like
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- Until we get it again.
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- I just straighten my back.
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- She looks right.
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- Yes, it looks like this is what democracy looks like.
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- This is what democracy looks like.
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- Yeah. record deportations.
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- Gentlemen, that is exactly right.
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- Because what democracy looks like,
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- That is what this is what democracy looks like.
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- And, you know, i will say that this this was perfectly on
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- Cue with, what charlie often talked about.
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- He was very passionate about this issue.
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- So let's put it in charlie's own words.
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- Cut. 156.
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- You should not have to compete
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- Against a foreigner for your job.
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- American college graduates should come first.
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- And that starts
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- With president donald trump.
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- And this will affect everybody
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- In this room, regardless of age.
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- It is time for the largest deportation
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- Effort this country has ever seen.
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- We if you are here illegally, you are deported
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- From the united states of america.
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- Period.
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- No amnesty.
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- Repeat after me.
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- No amnesty period.
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- End of story.
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- We will not put up with any exceptions, any carve outs,
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- Any loopholes, any exceptions, any asterisks, any iota.
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- I don't care if it's ten years or 15 years.
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- We voted for mass deportations.
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- We did not vote for mass amnesty.
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- And we expect our leaders to deliver it
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- And bring back our country
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- To a place of citizenship and americans being put first.
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- I mean, i just love watching the he was so firm and clear
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- And he was really channeling the base energy.
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- This is what democracy looks like.
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- Mike mcconnell charlie hated the word democracy.
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- Actually.
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- He loved he loved, well, he preferred
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- Talking about america as a constitutional republic,
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- Which is exactly what it is, what it is.
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- And we have a republic of states.
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- They they agreed to be part of a union, right?
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- The states made america
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- When they agreed
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- To join together into the united states of america.
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- And we have this constitution
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- That governs the way the country works.
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- And the democrats love to say that we are
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- Anti-constitutional, that we're just empowering
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- Trump and egging him on to do everything he wants.
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- And we better watch it, because when the democrats in power,
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- That is not what's happening here.
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- That is not what's happening here.
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- What we have is now you see this from the circus
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- Court of appeals.
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- It's often referred to that
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- That is over the western united states.
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- It is not a, traditionally a conservative court.
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- Now, it was a split decision, but they still did an emergency
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- Stay, a motion that says, yes, president trump can,
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- Deploy the national guard in portland.
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- Right.
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- Because they said that, yes, he's within his his,
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- Authority to do so, which means the same thing
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- Is probably going to hold true in chicago and other places.
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- And again, this is what the democratic process
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- In a constitutional republic looks like he's hemmed in on.
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- He has bounds to his power, but it would not be
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- Against the rules for him to declare the insurrection act.
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- He's even been teasing that he might declare
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- The insurrection act and actually,
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- Democrats might
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- Be surprised to understand that 33%, about about,
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- One third of presidents
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- Have declared the insurrection act in the united states.
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- If democrats really were pro democracy,
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- They would realize and acknowledge
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- That president trump
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- Was elected by the electoral college
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- And the popular vote for, as charlie said,
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- Not mass amnesty, but mass deportations.
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- So he is fulfilling the mandate that was given to him
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- By voters to deport people.
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- And border crossings are 99.9% down,
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- Which is a huge we voted for this.
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- We voted for this.
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- He is he is more pro-democracy than they are.
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- And if they're going to go around and chant no kings,
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- They don't understand
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- That he is fulfilling
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- The mandate that the voters placed him to do so.
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- And and so this is something that i'm cheering on.
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- And that speech that charlie
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- Gave us from our student action summit,
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- And that room was all full of this students.
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- Yeah.
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- And so he sees these students that are graduating colleges
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- With degrees and tons of debt
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- To go get jobs that don't exist
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- Because illegal immigrants intake and get this.
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- So check that this clip. let's let's look at this.
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- This is president trump signaling that he could it's
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- Within his power to declare the insurrection act.
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- And the insurrection act obviously comes
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- From the whiskey rebellion.
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- When the country was just getting started,
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- George washington sent troops up to quell an insurrection.
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- They were rebelling against, taxes on, on, on whiskey.
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- That's why they where it gets its name.
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- Let's go ahead and play cut 150 and don't forget.
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- And i haven't used it.
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- But don't forget i can use the insurrection act.
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- 50% of the
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- Presidents almost have used that.
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- And that's unquestioned power.
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- I choose not to.
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- I'd rather do this, but i'm met constantly by,
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- Fake politicians,
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- Politicians that think that, you know, it's not like
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- The part of the radical left movement to have safety.
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- These cities have to be safe.
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- Our cities that are democrat run
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- Exclusively just about are unsafe cities.
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- And of course, he's 100% right, mike.
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- I mean, it's like you are, you know,
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- You're safer to walk the streets of some,
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- You know, probably some war torn areas of the world.
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- You're probably safer in kiev. probably. yeah.
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- And south chicago, i mean, oh, walk, i haven't
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- That's why they got chirac right.
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- So he, you know so his focusing
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- On this crime problem is, is totally justified.
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- We don't have to live this way. it's insane.
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- In genesis
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- 12 three, god made a powerful promise
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- To abraham, the father of the jewish people.
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- I will bless those who bless you.
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- The christian bible tells us
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- That we have been grafted into god's family tree.
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- The rich olive tree of israel,
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- The very foundations of the christian faith,
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- The bible and jesus, whom christians call
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- The messiah, are deeply rooted in israel.
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- Supporting israel aligns christians with god's
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- Prophetic timeline.
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- It demonstrates our willingness to be instruments of
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- God's blessing, uplifting his chosen people,
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- And it calls us to confront and heal
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- The centuries old wounds of anti-semitism.
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- The scripture says how good and how
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- Pleasant it is when brethren dwell together.
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- You can be part of this historic movement
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- Doctor james
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- Or welcome back to the charlie kirk show.
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- So let me just try and set the plate
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- Here to set the table for everybody.
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- What's going on at oxford uni?
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- Because it is a it's a whole other country for us. right.
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- You know where america first show.
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- But we have a special place in our heart for this story,
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- Because charlie was there just before he was taken from us.
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- And it was a really big deal.
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- And he actually debated
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- This gentleman that ended up becoming the president elect.
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- And when charlie was assassinated, this gentleman,
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- It was leaked, these whatsapp group chats or whatever,
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- Where he is celebrate. he's gleeful.
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- He said, let's effing
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- Go after learning about it, which is disgraceful.
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- You passed the human decency test, and then he calls a
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- No confidence vote on himself a true act of humility
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- And virtue
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- From this gleeful celebrator of death and destruction.
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- So they had the vote.
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- There it is.
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- There's charlie actually
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- Debating sweatpants, bro, as we call him,
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- Because you know it.
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- Why wear a suit at the hallowed halls of oxford
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- Union, the epicenter of free speech
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- And debate within europe, in the uk.
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- And he has been ousted.
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- But wait, there's more now he's contesting it.
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- Doctor james, or please explain what's going on.
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- Doctor james are, of course
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- From cambridge, which is another university.
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- But, we want to know all the details. please.
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- Well, andrew and mickey, it's great to be with you.
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- Yes, i am now at cambridge, but i once upon a time
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- I was at oxford.
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- And in fact, i've been a member
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- Of the oxford union since 1997, when i first went up
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- As a fresh faced undergraduate, aged 18.
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- And so i've been taking
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- A very close personal interest in this,
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- Not just because charlie was such a dear friend,
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- And i know he was thrilled to have
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- Had the opportunity to debate there as well as at cambridge.
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- And my goodness, didn't he do well, up
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- Against, sweat pants, bro, as you call him.
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- Who should never really have been
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- Admitted to the university of oxford.
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- Just to be clear.
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- I mean, difficult to translate the his his admissions
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- Grades, but they were very, very poor.
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- I've certainly never let a student in
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- With grades that bad.
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- I'm afraid it's, looked like it looks like he was a,
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- A diversity admission.
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- And this is a the kind of the admissions
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- Process, sadly, in oxford is, is is pretty corrupt.
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- And i'm very glad that this case,
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- If nothing else, has drawn attention to that.
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- Yes.
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- Look, we may be another country,
- 00:11:20.070 --> 00:11:22.072
- But my goodness, the rules of the oxford union
- 00:11:22.072 --> 00:11:25.842
- Are labyrinthine, byzantine, pretty arcane.
- 00:11:25.842 --> 00:11:28.845
- It's very hard for us brits to follow what's going on?
- 00:11:28.845 --> 00:11:32.215
- But yes, i should stress, it does look as if,
- 00:11:32.215 --> 00:11:35.986
- Sweat pants, bro, eat remains president elect.
- 00:11:35.986 --> 00:11:40.190
- But now of the oxford union, even though he lost by 70%,
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- The a vote of no confidence, which he called in himself,
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- On himself.
- 00:11:48.765 --> 00:11:49.666
- So before anyone talks about this being,
- 00:11:49.666 --> 00:11:52.602
- An example of cancel culture, he called the vote nobody else.
- 00:11:52.602 --> 00:11:56.339
- And, the, almost, sadly not unanimous,
- 00:11:56.339 --> 00:12:00.877
- But the overwhelming majority of those who voted
- 00:12:00.877 --> 00:12:04.514
- Decided that he was not a fit and proper person
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- To uphold the institutional ethos and values,
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- Of the oxford union.
- 00:12:10.487 --> 00:12:11.755
- But he has contesting the vote, he is appealing to
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- Wait for it.
- 00:12:15.725 --> 00:12:16.660
- Rule 47, subsection h, subsection five,
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- Which, which
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- Which invokes the rule that where there may have been some,
- 00:12:24.334 --> 00:12:28.205
- Disciplinary issues with the way in which the proxy
- 00:12:28.205 --> 00:12:31.508
- Votes were cast, he's claiming that some were tampered with.
- 00:12:31.508 --> 00:12:35.378
- And so for now, until,
- 00:12:35.378 --> 00:12:38.615
- That investigation is complete, he remains president elect.
- 00:12:38.615 --> 00:12:41.618
- But, look, i think his his days are numbered.
- 00:12:41.618 --> 00:12:44.054
- And what a sorry saga.
- 00:12:44.054 --> 00:12:45.889
- How how far the oxford union, has fallen.
- 00:12:45.889 --> 00:12:49.926
- And it fills me with shame and embarrassment.
- 00:12:49.926 --> 00:12:52.929
- And i know all of my friends on both left and right,
- 00:12:52.929 --> 00:12:56.066
- From oxford and beyond.
- 00:12:56.066 --> 00:12:58.468
- Delighted that that he seems to be, on his way out.
- 00:12:58.468 --> 00:13:02.572
- I mean, i, i've got 1 or 2 friends.
- 00:13:02.572 --> 00:13:04.207
- Lord toby young, general secretary of the
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- The free speech union is a dear friend of mine is taking
- 00:13:06.910 --> 00:13:10.146
- A very absolutist line here saying that he should not be
- 00:13:10.146 --> 00:13:12.916
- Penalized by the union or the university, for saying
- 00:13:12.916 --> 00:13:16.453
- Something offensive but lawful, and that that's free speech.
- 00:13:16.453 --> 00:13:19.289
- You know, i understand that, but i do think that,
- 00:13:19.289 --> 00:13:22.926
- You do not have the right to,
- 00:13:22.926 --> 00:13:24.761
- To be president of the oxford union,
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- If you think, as i think was obvious from his reaction
- 00:13:26.429 --> 00:13:30.200
- And from what
- 00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:31.234
- He said in those private text, if you think that,
- 00:13:31.234 --> 00:13:33.870
- That violence and assassination are justified,
- 00:13:33.870 --> 00:13:37.474
- I think that just,
- 00:13:37.474 --> 00:13:39.175
- You know, he claimed that he did not represent his and
- 00:13:39.175 --> 00:13:42.212
- His values,
- 00:13:42.212 --> 00:13:43.179
- But i think actually, you know, it's when we
- 00:13:43.179 --> 00:13:44.714
- It's in the heat of the moment that very often
- 00:13:44.714 --> 00:13:46.416
- We reveal who we are and what we think.
- 00:13:46.416 --> 00:13:49.352
- And, you know, i think he was roundly
- 00:13:49.352 --> 00:13:51.821
- Defeated by charlie in that debate.
- 00:13:51.821 --> 00:13:53.556
- And, i, you know, i think he, he nursed some grievances and,
- 00:13:53.556 --> 00:13:57.327
- And unexpressed his, his true feelings.
- 00:13:57.327 --> 00:13:59.562
- So, you know, i'm looking forward to him being,
- 00:13:59.562 --> 00:14:02.132
- You know, formally stepping aside.
- 00:14:02.132 --> 00:14:04.034
- It's probably going to take another few days, but but,
- 00:14:04.034 --> 00:14:06.937
- I don't think there's
- 00:14:06.937 --> 00:14:08.071
- Any realistic chance of, of this disciplinary inquiry
- 00:14:08.071 --> 00:14:11.741
- Finding that the vote was, was not conducted properly.
- 00:14:11.741 --> 00:14:16.179
- And even if it turns out that there
- 00:14:16.179 --> 00:14:18.748
- Were some irregularities,
- 00:14:18.748 --> 00:14:19.950
- The vote will simply be held again.
- 00:14:19.950 --> 00:14:21.217
- And i suspect he would lose by an even greater margin.
- 00:14:21.217 --> 00:14:24.054
- All right.
- 00:14:24.054 --> 00:14:24.821
- We have, more coming.
- 00:14:24.821 --> 00:14:28.191
- We need to get back to, we're going to take a quick
- 00:14:28.191 --> 00:14:30.126
- Break to welcome our next guest in.
- 00:14:30.126 --> 00:14:31.928
- And, we we'll be right back.
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- Let's welcome daniel into the conversation.
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- We're talking about oxford union,
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- Which many believe is the most prestigious debate society
- 00:15:44.335 --> 00:15:48.005
- On the planet, certainly within the uk and within europe.
- 00:15:48.005 --> 00:15:51.575
- And charlie was just there,
- 00:15:51.575 --> 00:15:52.877
- And they're trying to put in place.
- 00:15:52.877 --> 00:15:54.612
- Or they were a man who celebrated charlie's death.
- 00:15:54.612 --> 00:15:57.548
- Charlie actually debated him at oxford union. why?
- 00:15:57.548 --> 00:16:00.384
- This is a big deal.
- 00:16:00.384 --> 00:16:01.652
- And please bring bringing
- 00:16:01.652 --> 00:16:03.254
- All of our guests here really quick.
- 00:16:03.254 --> 00:16:04.622
- On the visual,
- 00:16:04.622 --> 00:16:05.790
- Why this is a big deal is because if we allow this
- 00:16:05.790 --> 00:16:08.659
- To stand, we
- 00:16:08.659 --> 00:16:09.894
- We we understand in america that we probably wouldn't exist
- 00:16:09.894 --> 00:16:12.530
- In our current form.
- 00:16:12.530 --> 00:16:13.364
- We definitely wouldn't have
- 00:16:13.364 --> 00:16:14.732
- If it wasn't for what we inherited from england
- 00:16:14.732 --> 00:16:17.735
- And from the commonwealth.
- 00:16:17.735 --> 00:16:20.471
- You know, the christian society that we inherited here.
- 00:16:20.471 --> 00:16:23.274
- We have to maintain this, posture,
- 00:16:23.274 --> 00:16:27.311
- I think globally, doctor.
- 00:16:27.311 --> 00:16:28.979
- Or and, daniel, i think that it's important
- 00:16:28.979 --> 00:16:31.649
- Because if we start becoming an island
- 00:16:31.649 --> 00:16:33.684
- With the only place where we have
- 00:16:33.684 --> 00:16:35.352
- The first amendment that people believe in free speech,
- 00:16:35.352 --> 00:16:38.255
- Then we are going to be increasingly pressed upon
- 00:16:38.255 --> 00:16:41.192
- By this
- 00:16:41.425 --> 00:16:42.293
- Transatlantic alliance where we're going
- 00:16:42.293 --> 00:16:44.128
- To have our speech curtailed.
- 00:16:44.128 --> 00:16:45.563
- And we've seen that already,
- 00:16:45.563 --> 00:16:47.264
- Especially in joe biden's tenure.
- 00:16:47.264 --> 00:16:49.100
- So we need to insist that a robust free speech
- 00:16:49.100 --> 00:16:54.105
- Ecosystem exist within western allies in western countries.
- 00:16:54.105 --> 00:16:58.509
- And that being said, celebrating somebody's
- 00:16:58.509 --> 00:17:00.544
- Death is completely across the line.
- 00:17:00.544 --> 00:17:02.980
- Nobody's saying he needs to go to prison.
- 00:17:02.980 --> 00:17:04.782
- Nobody's saying that he's
- 00:17:04.782 --> 00:17:05.783
- Going to get a knock on the door
- 00:17:05.783 --> 00:17:07.118
- Because he tweeted
- 00:17:07.118 --> 00:17:08.219
- About migrants or something like happens in the uk.
- 00:17:08.219 --> 00:17:10.621
- We're just saying he's not fit to serve
- 00:17:10.621 --> 00:17:12.456
- In this prestigious role.
- 00:17:12.456 --> 00:17:13.791
- And i just want to present this to you, davo.
- 00:17:13.791 --> 00:17:15.626
- I want our audience to understand davo.
- 00:17:15.626 --> 00:17:17.194
- It's an acronym
- 00:17:17.194 --> 00:17:18.229
- For deny, attack, reverse victim and offender.
- 00:17:18.229 --> 00:17:21.765
- It's a manipulative tactic used by people
- 00:17:21.765 --> 00:17:24.301
- That have done something wrong or perpetrated.
- 00:17:24.301 --> 00:17:26.470
- An an ill or, evil to avoid responsibility.
- 00:17:26.470 --> 00:17:30.541
- So it does not surprise me that he would deny
- 00:17:30.541 --> 00:17:33.410
- That he did apologize. i will say that.
- 00:17:33.410 --> 00:17:35.212
- But then he will reverse victim and say that now he's
- 00:17:35.212 --> 00:17:37.414
- The victim of racial attacks and this old,
- 00:17:37.414 --> 00:17:40.384
- You know, white institution or whatever he's saying.
- 00:17:40.384 --> 00:17:43.420
- But that's that is the that is the sequence of events
- 00:17:43.420 --> 00:17:47.525
- That we're seeing.
- 00:17:47.525 --> 00:17:48.425
- That is the pattern that is unfolding.
- 00:17:48.425 --> 00:17:49.793
- Doctor james, or do you believe that, george is
- 00:17:49.793 --> 00:17:54.165
- A, a victim of something here, you know, this institution?
- 00:17:54.165 --> 00:17:57.902
- Well, listen, yeah.
- 00:17:57.902 --> 00:17:59.436
- Look. yeah.
- 00:17:59.436 --> 00:18:00.237
- Look, nobody is victimizing him.
- 00:18:00.237 --> 00:18:02.173
- Nobody.
- 00:18:02.173 --> 00:18:03.107
- He called a vote of no confidence himself.
- 00:18:03.107 --> 00:18:06.043
- The reason the members have taken the view that they have
- 00:18:06.043 --> 00:18:09.513
- Is precisely because it is such an important
- 00:18:09.513 --> 00:18:12.616
- Cradle of free speech and any such important
- 00:18:12.616 --> 00:18:15.386
- And credible needs somebody at the helm
- 00:18:15.386 --> 00:18:18.455
- Who is publicly, celebrating the values
- 00:18:18.455 --> 00:18:21.959
- And the institutional ethos of the oxford union.
- 00:18:21.959 --> 00:18:25.196
- If you are celebrating the violent assassination
- 00:18:25.196 --> 00:18:28.699
- Of a free speech hero, somebody whose free speech
- 00:18:28.699 --> 00:18:32.803
- Credentials, well, obvious to everyone
- 00:18:32.803 --> 00:18:34.805
- And certainly obvious
- 00:18:34.805 --> 00:18:36.240
- To everyone here because he debated him himself,
- 00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:39.410
- Then that is simply that
- 00:18:39.410 --> 00:18:40.778
- That undermines the interest institution.
- 00:18:40.778 --> 00:18:42.913
- It brings the, reputational shame on the institution.
- 00:18:42.913 --> 00:18:46.584
- And so i just one more thing i want to say,
- 00:18:46.584 --> 00:18:48.719
- Andrew's that i don't what you we mustn't think of,
- 00:18:48.719 --> 00:18:52.122
- Of, of is, conduct as representative
- 00:18:52.122 --> 00:18:55.893
- Of the attitudes of brits and particularly young brits
- 00:18:55.893 --> 00:18:59.463
- Towards charlie kirk.
- 00:18:59.463 --> 00:19:01.098
- I was, with my son and a few students
- 00:19:01.098 --> 00:19:03.701
- Opposite downing street
- 00:19:03.701 --> 00:19:04.802
- On whitehall two days after charlie's assassination.
- 00:19:04.802 --> 00:19:08.272
- It was so moving
- 00:19:08.272 --> 00:19:09.707
- And there were
- 00:19:09.707 --> 00:19:10.841
- Thousands of people there with pictures of charlie.
- 00:19:10.841 --> 00:19:13.277
- There was candles everywhere.
- 00:19:13.277 --> 00:19:15.980
- There was worship music. there was prayer.
- 00:19:15.980 --> 00:19:17.681
- There was it was a celebration of his life.
- 00:19:17.681 --> 00:19:20.284
- And the following day at this,
- 00:19:20.284 --> 00:19:21.719
- Big rally
- 00:19:21.719 --> 00:19:22.620
- In, in, controversial rally in london,
- 00:19:22.620 --> 00:19:24.722
- Really was just a celebration of charlie.
- 00:19:24.722 --> 00:19:27.091
- And, it was just wonderful and very moving
- 00:19:27.091 --> 00:19:29.126
- To see
- 00:19:29.126 --> 00:19:30.261
- What an impact he'd had so many thousands of miles away
- 00:19:30.261 --> 00:19:33.397
- On, on young brits, people on, on the left and the right.
- 00:19:33.397 --> 00:19:37.801
- People had enormous respect for him.
- 00:19:37.801 --> 00:19:39.637
- So let's not let this incident, make your viewers think
- 00:19:39.637 --> 00:19:44.108
- That somehow this is anything other than a terrible anomaly
- 00:19:44.108 --> 00:19:47.745
- In terms
- 00:19:47.745 --> 00:19:48.812
- Of how charlie was celebrated, how he was, respected,
- 00:19:48.812 --> 00:19:52.583
- And how grieved so many of us are on
- 00:19:52.583 --> 00:19:55.119
- This side of the country, this side of the atlantic
- 00:19:55.119 --> 00:19:57.388
- In the mother country, at, at his, shocking death.
- 00:19:57.388 --> 00:20:01.892
- Daniel, i would love for you to chime in on that.
- 00:20:01.892 --> 00:20:04.228
- You know, are you seeing that love for charlie
- 00:20:04.228 --> 00:20:06.630
- At a more sort of grassroots level, closer to the people?
- 00:20:06.630 --> 00:20:09.667
- Yeah, this is a bad anomaly, a bad example.
- 00:20:09.667 --> 00:20:12.069
- But tell us what charlie has sort of meant more,
- 00:20:12.069 --> 00:20:15.439
- More broadly for young people in and around oxford.
- 00:20:15.439 --> 00:20:18.375
- But all over the uk.
- 00:20:18.375 --> 00:20:21.712
- First they'll start when,
- 00:20:22.279 --> 00:20:24.348
- You know, charlie was announced that
- 00:20:24.348 --> 00:20:25.683
- He'll be speaking at oxford.
- 00:20:25.683 --> 00:20:27.184
- You know,
- 00:20:27.184 --> 00:20:27.851
- The first thing that people
- 00:20:27.851 --> 00:20:28.952
- Were saying, most of the students were
- 00:20:28.952 --> 00:20:30.287
- Saying was, why is he coming to oxford?
- 00:20:30.287 --> 00:20:32.423
- Why is the president platform in him?
- 00:20:32.423 --> 00:20:34.992
- And you could almost see the tension in the room.
- 00:20:34.992 --> 00:20:38.796
- I mean, even outside the gate when i was arriving to be,
- 00:20:38.796 --> 00:20:41.799
- You know,
- 00:20:41.799 --> 00:20:42.766
- To be part of the speech, there was police
- 00:20:42.766 --> 00:20:43.701
- There, there were protesters,
- 00:20:43.701 --> 00:20:45.669
- And there was so much tension in the room.
- 00:20:45.669 --> 00:20:47.371
- But what i realized,
- 00:20:47.371 --> 00:20:48.672
- When charlie was debating, is that he's not trying to
- 00:20:48.672 --> 00:20:51.542
- Make anybody look silly, because i know we've, you know,
- 00:20:52.643 --> 00:20:55.079
- We've shown a clip here where he's saying,
- 00:20:55.079 --> 00:20:56.413
- Give me 1,000 pounds and i'll show you.
- 00:20:56.413 --> 00:20:57.815
- He's literally
- 00:20:57.815 --> 00:20:58.949
- Just trying to get his point across and showed people
- 00:20:58.949 --> 00:21:01.352
- That, look, what i'm saying is actually right.
- 00:21:01.352 --> 00:21:04.054
- You are just a little bit confused.
- 00:21:04.054 --> 00:21:05.889
- He's trying to get you on his side.
- 00:21:05.889 --> 00:21:08.392
- And i think we saw that with the we saw the, you know,
- 00:21:08.392 --> 00:21:12.162
- An ease of the tension with the results.
- 00:21:12.162 --> 00:21:13.931
- You know, we got 92
- 00:21:13.931 --> 00:21:15.366
- People, 92 students who voted for the opposition.
- 00:21:15.366 --> 00:21:18.969
- And, you know, we were really surprised
- 00:21:18.969 --> 00:21:20.437
- When the vote wasn't was announced.
- 00:21:20.437 --> 00:21:23.140
- And i
- 00:21:23.374 --> 00:21:24.241
- Think it just goes to show that people on
- 00:21:24.241 --> 00:21:27.911
- People don't have issues with charlie's views.
- 00:21:27.911 --> 00:21:30.614
- I think
- 00:21:30.614 --> 00:21:31.782
- What they have issues with is the fact that he's right.
- 00:21:31.782 --> 00:21:33.984
- And they have issues with the fact that he's right
- 00:21:33.984 --> 00:21:38.122
- Most of the time.
- 00:21:38.122 --> 00:21:39.356
- And, you know, one thing i'll say is a lot of young people
- 00:21:39.356 --> 00:21:42.159
- Respect charlie for being a bastion
- 00:21:42.159 --> 00:21:45.662
- Of free speech and creating platforms as a personality.
- 00:21:45.662 --> 00:21:50.200
- That is transcending him, you know?
- 00:21:51.001 --> 00:21:53.203
- And that's something
- 00:21:53.203 --> 00:21:54.138
- That we have to also see with mr., george
- 00:21:54.138 --> 00:21:57.341
- Abernethy, everybody saying that he's not stepping down.
- 00:21:57.341 --> 00:22:00.511
- But i think what we need to do
- 00:22:00.511 --> 00:22:02.079
- Is focus on the platform, which is oxford union.
- 00:22:02.079 --> 00:22:04.047
- We need to uphold oxford union as a credible,
- 00:22:04.047 --> 00:22:06.884
- Society and forget the personality.
- 00:22:06.884 --> 00:22:09.453
- And i think that's something that we saw with charlie.
- 00:22:09.453 --> 00:22:11.221
- He focused on turning point usa and yes, he was the main man.
- 00:22:11.221 --> 00:22:14.691
- But look, turning point is here today.
- 00:22:14.691 --> 00:22:16.894
- Charlie kirk charlie kirk show is still going on
- 00:22:16.894 --> 00:22:19.296
- And platform trumps personality.
- 00:22:19.296 --> 00:22:21.732
- And i think that's what charlie kirk pushed.
- 00:22:21.732 --> 00:22:23.634
- And i think that's what a lot of young people
- 00:22:23.634 --> 00:22:25.436
- Respect him for.
- 00:22:25.436 --> 00:22:26.370
- Well said daniel. well said.
- 00:22:26.370 --> 00:22:27.771
- I remember
- 00:22:27.771 --> 00:22:29.139
- Being around a lot of british kids, french kids, german kids
- 00:22:29.139 --> 00:22:32.509
- That wanted to get selfies with charlie,
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- And they knew him from his videos online,
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- And they followed him.
- 00:22:36.547 --> 00:22:37.714
- And i think that his, it was almost providential
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- That, i see i would say almost i'm going to take that up.
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- It was providential
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- That charlie visited the uk when he did and that he left
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- That, his, his imprint is imprint on that country.
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- Because actually, deep down,
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- Charlie like to complain and kvetch about the uk
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- And what it's become and all the stuff.
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- But he loved it
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- And he respected it and he respected the heritage
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- And the history. so, so glad that happened.
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- I have to say goodbye to you, gentlemen now.
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- I wish we could have more time.
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- I wish we could just go forever.
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- Forever with this, because i just really love
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- Talking with both of you.
- 00:23:12.616 --> 00:23:13.617
- And i know mikey, you share that sentiment.
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- But, thank you, gentlemen, for for making the time.
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- Great to be with you both.
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- Thank thank you, daniel. you.
- 00:23:21.358 --> 00:23:24.862
- We truly are living in a historic time.
- 00:23:25.662 --> 00:23:28.532
- After 738 days, the 20 living israeli hostages
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- Have been released from captivity
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- And those who were killed will finally rest in peace near
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- Their loved ones. praise god!
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- In this time of celebration, our good friends
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- At the international fellowship of christians and jews
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- Send their deepest gratitude for your prayers
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- And unwavering support.
- 00:23:46.416 --> 00:23:47.684
- Thanks to you, the fellowship has provided
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- $300 million in emergency aid since october 7th,
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- Including millions in direct support for the hostages
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- And their families.
- 00:23:56.793 --> 00:23:57.861
- Of course, the road ahead is still a long one.
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- Much needs to be done to restore
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- And revive these victims of terrorism.
- 00:24:02.232 --> 00:24:04.535
- But that's exactly what the fellowship does.
- 00:24:04.535 --> 00:24:06.603
- For example,
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- They're assisting returned hostages,
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- Along with their families and friends, with immediate
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- Medical, psychological and financial support.
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- They're also providing
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- Mental health care for israelis of all ages.
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- To find out how you can help, visit ifc.org.
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- That's ifc.org.
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