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I was taken
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By a, release from spencer pratt.
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Okay, i've been watching that campaign very closely,
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And he's got a really, really fascinating and,
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I think, compelling plan to combat homelessness,
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Which is,
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I think, one of the more
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Intractable problems that many big cities face.
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And it's their own choice, certainly here to help us
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Unpack that right at the jump is jason rants.
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He's host of the jason ranch
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Show on seattle red 7070 up in seattle.
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He's a west coaster, through and through
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And is just a glutton for punishment.
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He's
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Also the author of the book what's killing america?
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Jason, welcome back to the show, my friend.
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Good to see you.
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Yeah. thanks for having me back.
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So you had you had homework?
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I said you got to watch this video.
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Spencer pratt, because, yes, spencer pratt is running
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A really remarkable campaign in many ways.
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And i'd love to just get your your initial reaction to that.
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But he's using media in ways that nobody's done before. i,
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You know, organic creators in la in the movie
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Space are making their own spencer pratt campaign ads.
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This.
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So we'll get into the homeless piece.
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But just on the top of it, as a west coast urban american,
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What's it like to see somebody
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Like spencer pratt emerge on the scene
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And actually, apparently have a legitimate chance? maybe not.
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Maybe he's not favored yet, but he could become mayor
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Of l.a.
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He could.
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Look, he's gaining momentum, and he's doing it
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In a way
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That i think
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Really reaches folks who don't normally
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Pay attention to politics. there are a lot of folks.
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This is really the issue with donald trump
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And even to another extent, like zoran mamdani,
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Where they were able to speak to people
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And energize people who maybe don't normally vote.
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Now, one case didn't like that they were able to do that.
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But for president trump,
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We're obviously a fan of him getting those folks to vote.
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And i think spencer pratt
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Is really connecting with people who
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Look at a lot of these issues
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And say they're not inherently political.
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When we're talking about
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Public safety and homelessness, drug use on our streets,
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The average person, no matter how it is they vote.
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They don't look at this and say, well,
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That's a democratic issue or that's a republican issue.
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They just see it as common sense.
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And, you know, spencer pratt is able to connect
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Republican policies with common sense approaches.
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And that's really why i'm so excited
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For what he's able to do.
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Jason, what you just said,
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I think is really the model for how conservatives,
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Let's just call them, not even conservatives.
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It's call them common sense americans call them in
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In an urban environment on the local.
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It's all local, actually,
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As a matter of fact, like as much as i love
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The president,
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The worst thing that could have happened
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To spencer
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Pratt was president trump going, i heard he's maga.
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You know, like it's like, just leave him alone.
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Let him let him cook. right.
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You know, and so, i would just say,
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Like what you said, i think is really,
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Really, important because we've
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So many of our american cities, you see this up
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Close in
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Seattle, have gotten away from the bread and butter of
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Just making the trains run on time,
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Like cleaning up the filth, making sure people can walk
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The streets safely.
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It's gotten so ideology, ideological
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That they've lost sight of just basic commonsense stuff.
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And i feel like that's the magic
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To the spencer pratt campaign. yes.
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He's charismatic. yes, he's good with media.
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Yes. he's like a social media campaign.
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But it's getting back to the bread and butter stuff
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Where common sense americans are going like, yeah,
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That makes sense.
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You can put out a lot of really well produced videos,
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I or otherwise, but if they're not talking
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About the issues, the way that people see them,
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It doesn't really matter.
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And that's what like makes the most sense to explain
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Why he's taking off the way that he has, it's
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Because he's talking about issues
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That people see and experience every single day.
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He can get to the emotional arguments
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By simply saying to a parent, do you want to feel
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The way you do
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When you're walking in a park with your kid
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And you're seeing someone smoking fentanyl or using,
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You know, a playground as a toilet,
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And you don't have to lean into the emotion beyond
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Just telling people what it is
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They're currently experiencing.
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And it allows them to get emotional on their own.
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And those are the best kinds of ads.
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He's obviously very clever.
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He is very charismatic in these, in these pitches,
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But he's just he's talking about things
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The way the average person sees them.
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And there's not a single person, again,
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Regardless of how they vote, who say, who says themselves.
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Yeah,
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I like the idea
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Of going to a park that's been completely
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Taken over by the homeless.
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No one holds those positions
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Except, i guess, radicals on the left.
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I totally agree.
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And you know, it's interesting
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So much of our modern political discourse between left
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And right just feels like, are you for the third world?
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Are you for the first world?
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Do you want america to look like a first world
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Country or a third world country?
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I mean, and you've got in your city,
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You've got a socialist mayor
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That just basically called on everybody to boycott starbucks,
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Like one of the established
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Corporate entities, the the heartbeat of the city.
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You drive past downtown, south of, downtown.
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You see that hq right there with the with the logo on it.
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She's calling to boycott start now.
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She's walking that back now.
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Says she, it did more harm than good.
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Imagine that.
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Truly remarkable.
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And i want to i want to play this spencer pratt, mashup.
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If we have it loaded.
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And then i want to get your reaction on the other,
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Other side.
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I don't know if we're going to get it in time here.
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Oh. it is. it's loaded.
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It's ten. let's go ahead and run it.
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Jason, rant and your reaction on the other side.
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Los angeles doesn't have a homeless problem.
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We have a drug problem.
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Treat medical teams,
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Administer narcan to reverse opioid overdoses.
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It blocks
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The opioid receptors in the brain
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So that it can shoot up as much heroin as they want.
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It won't do a thing.
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The problem is, narcan only lasts for a day or two,
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And it doesn't break the addiction cycle.
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There is a longer lasting anti narcotic drug called vivitrol
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That does what narcan does, but it lasts for 30 days,
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Giving a much better chance of breaking the addiction.
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The problem is the attic must be sober for 7 to 14 days
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Before it can be administered.
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So we have this donut hole
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Between the 48 hours of protection with the narcan
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And the two weeks of sobriety
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Needed to administer the vivitrol.
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Step one break the cycle.
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No more distribution of drug paraphernalia.
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Karen bass and nikki rothman currently pay ngos
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Millions of dollars to increase drug usage
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And profit off the misery of these drug addicts.
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I'm putting an end to this profiteering currently.
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Step two we have the laws.
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We just need to use them.
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Step three and the body brokering.
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Many of the addicts you see around
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Your neighborhood are bussed in from other states.
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In order for local ngos to profit off their addiction.
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Step four bring in the dea.
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We have international cartels operating in the open
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On our streets.
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Step five a modern treatment facility.
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I've already made plans with several high profile
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Developers who want to donate resources
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To build a large, modern and safe campus
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Where we can administer rehab
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Outside of our residential neighborhoods.
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Going to continue unpacking, because this is the first time
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I've ever seen anybody actually have a plan.
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Five steps that feels like it could work
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For for a modern la or modern seattle.
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So we're going to cover that on the other side
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Is break jason rant.
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Is break jason rant.
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The five points just to reiterate them
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For those that we're trying to keep track online
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Or as they were watching break the cycle.
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So stop distributing drug paraphernalia.
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No more free needles or, crack pipes.
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Uphold the law.
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So place illicit drug users on a 550 hold for 72 hours.
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It's involuntary. it's a psychiatric hold.
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Step three.
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Stop boat body brokers.
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These are the ngos that blake and i rail against
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Basically every day on this show that are,
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We think, ruining america.
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They're fleecing the taxpayers, getting rich on it.
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Whatever. bring in the dea.
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Let's target international drug cartels in the streets
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And then build modern treatment
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Facilities outside of
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Residential community
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So they don't bear the brunt of having a bunch of,
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Like, homeless crackheads
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Walking around the schools in the parks.
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Okay, so he's got a whole plan to build those outside.
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What what do you make of this five point plan?
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Jason rants
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Is brilliant for one simple reason.
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The left to oftentimes talk about how we have to get
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Innovative and all these
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None of what he just said is innovative.
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It's just basic stuff.
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It's common sense is doing what
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Every single person knows needs to be done.
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Like, let's not hand out cracked pipes.
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I know that that is crazy.
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That how dare someone actually say that?
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That's literally what's going on.
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You know, last year i went to the king
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County seattle public health office and i went in
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And i got a whole bunch of drug materials,
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Drug paraphernalia.
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I got a crack pipe.
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I was given tinfoil to smoke fentanyl,
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All these different things.
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Perhaps we should stop giving that out to drug addicts.
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And we should actually treat them.
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This whole idea that we should be handing out
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Narcan, not because they want to get people into treatment,
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But so that they can continue to use
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Without dying from an overdose.
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They like to say
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All the time that we don't want to stigmatize drug addiction.
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I do want to stigmatize drug use, simple as that.
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I want to stigmatize
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That because it's going to kill these people.
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And i would rather have someone harmed,
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Quote unquote,
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Because they had their feelings hurt,
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That we called them out for being a drug user,
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That have them die on our streets.
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And so everything that he is
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Proposing, there is going to be seen
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As controversial to the folks who make a whole lot of money
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When you've got drug addicts on our streets
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That there's there's
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A homeless industrial complex that is real, that exists,
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And they're the ones who are pushing it.
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The harm reduction model for those of don't no harm
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Reduction is essentially a strategy, they say,
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To reduce the harm of illicit substance abuse
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So that you can get someone into treatment.
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The problem, of course, on paper, that sounds great.
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In reality, they never get anyone into treatment.
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They don't push treatment,
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They simply push, making it quote unquote,
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Safer to continue to use drugs
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Because they don't want to stigmatize the drug user.
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It is a failed policy, and it's exactly why
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We're seeing the crisis
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On the ground as bad as we're seeing it across the country.
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Yeah, the third world of the united states starts
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With allowing chaos, drug use, crime, filth to reign supreme.
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And if you look at just spending totals,
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You would think that the democrats really do care
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Because they do throw a lot of money.
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I assure you they care.
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They care because,
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As you said, the homeless industrial complex,
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Like last year, los angeles, they paid
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They spent about $418
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Million on stuff that you'd say is homeless related.
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Well,
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If you just run the numbers by the addicts, it's
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Something like 15 to $20,000 a time.
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This person, some, dependency.
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You can take it over long times
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And all the stuff that goes into it.
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Billions. certainly billions.
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If you include
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What the hospitals have to pay for it,
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What a lot of institutions
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End up shelling out, but just the government there.
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And that money is obviously
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Not going to the homeless individuals.
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It's going to these ngos that are fighting homelessness.
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I'd i'd be tempted to add a sixth point to this,
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Which you probably won't, but a six point
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Friend in homelessness might as well be cut.
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Anti homelessness spending two zero.
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You can have law enforcement budget.
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You can have drug enforcement budget.
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You can have treatment centers for people who are addicted.
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But anything that's going
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To be branded as fighting homelessness
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I would posit that there is a direct relationship.
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The more you spend on fighting homelessness,
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The more homeless people you have.
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You are funding an apparatus of parasitic individuals
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Who don't want to end homelessness,
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Who want to enable all of those suicidal behaviors
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L.a spent over the past decades
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Billions of dollars fighting homelessness.
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What's the result?
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They have 60,000 homeless people in la county, 60,000
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Residents in 40,000.
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In los angeles itself.
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That would be the
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I think it would be the second largest city in the state.
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I'm from south dakota, so.
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So what's interesting, though, is his tone.
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He's saying, you would never do this to your son or daughter.
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You would never do this, to a family member.
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You would never enable their addiction.
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And he's saying, guess what?
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We're going to use the laws on the books to mandate
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Like these. arrest.
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Basically
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There's he's saying that the laws are exist
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Where we can take these people off the streets,
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Force them to get clean, use these better drugs to force,
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You know, that they don't relapse.
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But we're not doing that right now. he calls it a donut hole.
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So it's compassion with practical, you know,
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Accountability and application of the current laws.
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Wouldn't that that not the thing.
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Yeah.
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You don't really have to
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Do anything beyond what you can do right
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Now, but you're choosing not to the arguably
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The only thing you need to do is maybe put
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Some more resources into detox facilities,
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Because unfortunately,
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They have chosen not to do that up until this point.
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But you've got all the laws on the books that you need.
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You just need enforcement.
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You need actual enforcement.
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And oftentimes, you know, every once in a while
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There'll be like a sweep
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Of some homeless encampment, whether it's l.a.
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Or seattle or anywhere else.
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But you're not pushing them into treatment,
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You're just pushing them literally,
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In some cases across the street for them to reset a new camp.
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And then you say, oh, look, we've we've made our contact.
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We've offered them resources,
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But they're not going to take
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You up on your resources if you make it so easy
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To continue to be a homeless drug addict,
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You actually have to have a carrot
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And stick approach in every single jurisdiction
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That has done that.
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And that includes san diego in some cases.
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Austin, marysville, washington.
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They actually take a harder line approach to this
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And they see actual data.
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Orange county is another great example.
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If you are right now
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In this nonprofit space
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And you're working with the homeless
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And you're getting these big contracts,
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I'm okay with nonprofits getting the contracts.
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You have to you have to show that you have results.
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And so if you've been in charge this entire time
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And homelessness has gotten worse,
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You do not get to continue cashing those checks.
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I want these groups to understand
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They need to put themselves out of business.
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But you've got a lot of groups that continue
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To get a whole lot of money,
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Because they know that homelessness doesn't
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Have to get better under their watch.
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They have job security.
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I want to take away that job security.
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And the most dedicated people are the ones who know
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That they're going to try to put themselves out of work
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When they approach
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Homelessness, with the actual end goal of ending it.
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Well, listen, i think spencer pratt
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Is running a great campaign.
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Jason, check them out at seattle red.com.
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Keep up the good fight my friend.
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Seattle's got an uphill battle ahead of it.
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We'll be right back.
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We'll be right back.
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Let me, bring in rich barris big data.
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Paul.
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He's also the author of the book
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Burn it down, which is, quite the title,
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But rich, you've been doing okay,
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So i've wanted to have you on, the show
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Because there's been so much made
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Of this massive fight, and you've been kind
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Of waving the banner out there, saying, increasingly
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There is this discussion between america first and maga,
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Those who identify as america first versus maga.
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Now, i have a perspective
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On this and what's really happening.
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But i want to i want to pick your brain.
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What do you think is driving more and more people
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Identifying as america first, as opposed to maga?
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Well, andrew, and as always, thanks for having me on.
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I think the i think the massie, defeat,
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Settled a lot of this, for me.
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And what's going on?
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Look, i think that maga has changed,
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And, you know, who identifies as maga has changed
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In the case of thomas massie, that was,
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That was a problem for him because they changed into older
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White voters who tend to vote at higher rates in primaries.
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And if you are still wanting
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If you're not
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A traditional republican and you lean to the right,
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You may be mad and upset about some
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Things that have been going on.
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So when you get the chance, you'll identify as america
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First instead.
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And i think that is a, an issue for the republican party.
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A midterm was always going to be tough.
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And andrew, we talked so much in 24
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About the low prop voters getting these low
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Proposition voters out, propensity voters out,
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And under 45 millennials and down were so key to donald
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Trump winning okay.
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And that was always going to be a challenge. yes.
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This is what i want to get into here okay.
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Because yeah, i would
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I texted you and we talked a little bit
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And i said i'm tempted,
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Rich, to say you were wrong about massie
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And you like, i wasn't wrong.
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And, i mean, no, but but okay.
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Because you had to did about 5050 to be fair.
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You calling it either way.
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But what happened that surprised you in that race?
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Okay, so this is why i called it at 5050.
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Even though any pollster has pulled
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Republican primaries, knows that you should drop out
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Younger people and make sure
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The old electorate why we didn't do
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That was the entire point is because kentucky four
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Is filled with young voters who do vote in primaries.
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They have vote history.
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So we gave them the benefit of the doubt
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And kept them in there. all right.
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So it goes to what i'm what i'm saying here.
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I guess it
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I was wrong because the problem with young
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Voters is worse than i thought it was,
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Which isn't what people want to hear.
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But we have seen this in other races.
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And that's why i was, you know, telling my people
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As we were doing
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The poll and doing the videos, was really reluctant.
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Like i was pretty certain at that would, you know, that
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This would be my first miss because it is my first miss.
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All right.
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So let me let me,
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I'm just going to make sure
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I'm translating it for the layman at home.
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So you were looking at the numbers,
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And we saw this, that every group
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Under 65 favored massie significantly.
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Like, it wasn't even close, actually,
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But over 65 that you call them the boomer cons.
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You could call the fox cons, whatever you want to call them.
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They it.
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That group favored goran by like a sizable margin.
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It was like a tale of two of two electorates.
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It was over 65 and under 65.
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You're saying what happened was
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You were including in your poll predictions,
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Was that the younger voters were going to turn out.
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It's something similar to what we saw in the midterm,
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Because massey had great appeal with young people.
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You figured that massie would be enough
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To overcome the nihilism. but he wasn't.
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They still did with turn up and turnout for this primary.
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And why do you think they didn't show up?
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So and
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What ended up happening, it was, over 65, over indexed.
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They they punched above their weight.
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20 points. 20 points, guys. wow.
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So they're 25% of registered republicans, 65 and above.
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They're going to come in at 45%.
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The generation x.
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And this was the trump people that they do this this like mo.
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And they're very good at it.
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They target specifically that 62 and above.
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And then if they're hitting
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Gen x it's low propensity gen x that they know
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Are loyal to the president.
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So and i mean on the older end of that guy.
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So like the 55 to 61 right.
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So they nailed it. and they did incredible.
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So even getting that side of gen x out
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See you can even see this there.
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Even gen x supported massey slightly.
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But i think we're going to learn
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That they probably slightly
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Supported goren because the trump campaign did
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Such a good job getting out just their gen xers.
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And this is the risk i took.
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Rather, this was the risk
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I took $35 million, almost like let's call it
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32, spent in a primary, which is ungodly.
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Sometimes when you're doing that, it can backfire
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And you target those ads to the old fox boomer cons.
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But because the race gets
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So much national attention, it ends up backfiring
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And you wind up driving higher turnout up anyway.
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The 18 to 20 nines 5% of the vote
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They're going to fall to like two.
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Andrew i'm not even kidding.
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So, they don't even normally it's a rich person
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In a republican primary.
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That's a that 18 to 29 in that race was an 8020 split.
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It's 80% in favor of massey, 20% for goren.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You're telling me they're going to
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They're only gonna account for 2% of the
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The primary electorate there?
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I'm telling i'm telling you, when all this is said and done,
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They're usually 6 to 8 and in some cases could rise
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As high as ten.
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They make up 14% of the overall registered vote.
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But they did not vote.
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It's 30 to 44.
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They're like 23.
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And i guess i bet you they come in at like 11.
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And. sorry, i don't mean to talk over you, rich.
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I'm just so fast.
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Yeah. sorry.
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It's topic so obviously a turning point.
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That's what we're focused on the young people.
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And i've been warning people i've been trying to like
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Shake people saying like, we've got nihilism setting it.
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It's not that a lot of it's not that it's not our kids,
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It's the kids are interacting with the tabling.
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Right?
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It's the kids that come up to their booth
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And they they go defend epstein, defend the iran war.
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And it's like, yeah, it's like you're talking to a wall.
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It so so my point is, like the larger
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Gen z electorate is,
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Is it just that you're seeing that they opt out and you
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You were actually a little bit more optimistic, like,
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Hey, they still believe because it's massey.
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Is it. it's massey.
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Yeah.
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It's it's so nihilistic because it's
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So black pilled that they're just like, screw it.
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Yeah.
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I mean, i think that guys, this primary answer that there was
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105,000 votes, 65 plus is, is going to end up
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Being, you know, a ridiculous share of that.
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There are only 72,000 of them registered in that district.
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They voted at extremely high rates, and people under 45
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Did not.
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I mean, if they're not going to come out for massey,
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We have a huge problem.
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And this is not something that hasn't happened elsewhere.
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We've actually seen this in primaries and and specials.
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Now for the last two almost going i was going to ask
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Yeah rich what about like indiana primaries
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Where where we got rid of all those,
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Those the rhinos like, is the same thing there.
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What about, the what about the paxton cornyn?
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Wesley hunt? okay.
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Yeah.
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I mean, meaning old. they weren't
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It wasn't a terrible turnout for republicans.
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And this is what i was trying to explain to people
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When i saw that democrats outvoted republicans in texas.
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It's not that
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It was a terrible, normal
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Primary turnout in texas for republicans.
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It was terrible compared to what we knew
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We needed to do with the coalition after 24.
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And there were challenges like,
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You can't going along to get along
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Without donald trump on the ballot is not going to work.
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We have to start to see evidence that without trump
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On the ballot, these younger people still come out.
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These nonwhite people still vote. they're not.
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I mean, if we gave you this stat before
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Because why don't race matters to because the younger
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And you guys know this, you know, older america is whiter.
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Younger america is less white.
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So when you see in 2,442% of,
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Hispanics in georgia pulled democratic, ballads.
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Now, compared to last tuesday, 75% of hispanics
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Toppled on top of new jersey,
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Which we saw this two coupled on top of texas,
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Which we got blown out in trump's
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Hispanic southern texas counties.
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This is a massive problem.
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You can't drive with hispanics men.
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What's what's driving hispanics
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What they wanted domestic agenda andrew.
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