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We want to give you a quick
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Update on the status of the fragile cease fire.
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We knew it was fragile.
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Has anything updated since yesterday?
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Well, vice president vance is out front and,
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I mean, you rarely see him this frustrated.
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Now we know why i think this is interesting
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Is because vice president vance, we know from that
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Blockbuster exposé by swann, maggie haberman,
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That vice president vance was very against going into war.
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He was very vocal about it internally.
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We've known this from reporting,
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That he was against going into iran.
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I think he's now going to be having
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A very prominent position
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In the negotiations in islamabad
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This friday, saturday over the weekend.
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So he's being asked about different aspects of this.
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And the clips are,
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I think, very telling,
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Very important to give us a framework
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Through which to process everything that's going on.
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And one of the main keys is what's happening in lebanon,
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What's happening in the strait of hormuz.
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Those are those seem to actually be the two keys.
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I'll say.
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Let's go ahead and start, that one.
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I think the iranians thought that the cease fire included
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Lebanon, and it just didn't we never made that promise.
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We never indicated that was going to be the case.
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What we said is that the cease fire would be focused on iran,
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And the cease fire would be focused on america's
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Allies, both israel and the gulf arab states.
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A lot of ceasefires really traditionally would be written.
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And, you know, it would have a
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Clear provisions on what it covers.
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It seems this one was more ad hoc, maybe more of a 90,
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90 minutes
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Before the 90 minutes before verbal deal, handshake deal,
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What have you.
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That is a way president trump often likes to do things,
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But you do see where there can be issues there
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Because you come out of the deal
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And then everyone is immediately arguing
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About what deal was actually made.
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Well, and to be fair, i mean, hezbollah is supposed
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To be a separate entity, but this sort of exposes
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That they are a proxy for the iranian regime.
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Okay.
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So then the issue of the ten point plan.
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So getting more and more clarity,
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We saw this from caroline
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Leavitt yesterday during the press conference
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That this was
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The previously reported on ten point
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Plan is not the one that they're talking about.
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I'm hearing people call, b.s.
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On this a little bit that this is a matter of semantics,
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But the other people are pushing
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Back in the admin saying that the ten point plan
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That was agreed to as a basis upon which to start
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Negotiations was significantly different
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Than the ten point plan previously reported on.
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Vice president vance goes pretty hardcore on
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This point as well.
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Sought to
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There are three different ten point proposals,
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At least, that i've seen floating around.
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The first ten point proposal
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Was something that was submitted,
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And we think, frankly, was probably written by chatgpt
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That was submitted to steve wyckoff and jared kushner.
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That immediately went in the garbage and was rejected.
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There was a second ten point proposal
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That was much more reasonable.
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That was based on some back and forth between us,
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Between the pakistanis.
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And that is the ten point proposal that the president
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Was referencing in his truth yesterday.
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And then, frankly, i've seen a 13 point proposal
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That's even more maximalist
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Than the first ten point proposal
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That's been floating around various social media channels.
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Yeah.
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And there seems to be a particular
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Ire that the white house is pointing and directing
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To cnn, new york times j.d.
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Vance continues on this theme song seven is that i've seen
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Various organs the new york times, cnn, others
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Pick up and run the original ten point proposal
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Based on little more than a random yahoo in iran
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Submitting it to public access television
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In the country of iran,
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And then them saying
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That somehow represents the negotiating position
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Of the government.
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It's the equivalent of somebody in, let's say,
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A democratic councilman in boise, idaho,
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Saying something crazy, the local public access tv,
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Picking up that crazy statement,
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And then the new york times running that as the position
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Of the president of the united states.
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It doesn't make an ounce of sense.
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So where does that leave us?
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I think it leaves us in a position
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Where the state is currently not operating.
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Still, the strait of hormuz is not closed.
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And as we remember, as you might recall, it is closed.
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Yes, it is closed.
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As you might recall, we have president trump's
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Expletive laced truth social saying open
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The also really laced. it was just one.
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It was just, yeah.
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Well fair enough. open the effing strait.
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Open the strait.
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And so that is not open yet.
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And that was a key,
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I guess,
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Pillar of establishing this two week ceasefire.
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So it's unclear what's going to happen.
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It seems that momentum is racing towards islamabad
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On sunday and friday and saturday this weekend.
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President trump has indicated that jd vance, steve whitcomb,
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Jared kushner are going to be leading those negotiations
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And it seems to be that the calculation is
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Even though the strait has not been open back up,
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You see a little bit of saber rattling on truth
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Social from the president saying we're armed and ready.
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Everybody's getting ready to go.
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If we have to.
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But they want to see if this peace proposal
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Can play itself out and actually
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Get some good results for the country.
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So it looks like we're sort of ignoring the strait
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For the time being, at least for the next two days.
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It appears until a peace, negotiation is
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Able to play itself out.
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So we're going to see what happens.
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But fragile peace, to say the least.
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And it does not seem that the iranian regime
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Is is buckling necessary.
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They they well defiant
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I the reason we got here is
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We attempted to do regime change and it didn't succeed.
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Let's be frank.
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And we we turned over the top of the iranian regime.
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But yeah, the
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The irgc,
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The regime is still in power, still entrenched
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In that country, still running things. it's very clear.
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So we're going to see how this plays out.
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This is the trump,
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Truth is, is all u.s ships, aircraft and military personnel
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With additional ammunition, weaponry and anything else
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That is appropriate and necessary
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For the lethal prosecution and destruction of an already
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Substantially degraded enemy will remain in place in
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And around iran until such time as the real agreement.
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All caps no noted reached is fully complied with.
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If for any reason it is not, which is highly unlikely, then
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The shooting starts
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Bigger and better and stronger than the last time, he said.
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The shooting starts was floyd a palooza, remember?
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He said, the looting starts, the shooting start.
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Oh, is that right?
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Yes he did.
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That's a good it's a phrase of his.
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It's a good recall.
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It was agreed a long time ago.
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And despite all the fake
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Rhetoric to the contrary, no nuclear weapons
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In the strait of hormuz will be open and safe.
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In the meantime,
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Our great military is loading up and resting,
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Looking forward actually, to its next conquest.
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Conquest is quite the word there.
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I'm not sure if.
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What what if he's referencing cuba or some other,
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Situation or around itself.
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So lots of moving pieces, as they say.
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It's a complex situation.
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Here's where i'm at.
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I agree, actually, and letting the peace talks
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Go forward, i think we need to declare victory.
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Get out.
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If even if it's a fragile peace, that's fine.
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In the first
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Moments of this ceasefire, it's always a fragile peace.
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So let's move forward, put our good
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Faith effort forward and see if we can get in and get out.
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And let's focus on nation building back here at home.
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So even if it's not perfect,
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As long as you get the nukes, you can declare victory.
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You can say, hey, we came, we saw, we took care
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Of their military industrial base,
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Took care of their missiles, took care of all that,
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And we got the nukes. yeah, it's not perfect.
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Yeah, there's there's some questions about the straight,
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But america, i'm telling you the the
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We need to focus back on domestics
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If we're going to have any hope in the midterms.
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And in 2028, which we do, we do have hope.
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And in 2028, which we do, we do have hope.
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Welcoming now to the show is our dear friend libby emmons.
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She's the editor in chief of the post
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Millennial and human events.
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We've got lots to go over with.
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Libby, thank you for joining us. libby.
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I hope you're doing well.
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Yeah. you too.
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Nice to see you guys.
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It's great to see you.
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So i, i saw this clip, out of virginia.
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So, abigail spanberger, we.
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She's been governor of virginia for about 12 weeks
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Now, and apparently her poll numbers are slumping.
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And she got asked about this, and it was just too delicious.
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We had to play it. sat six.
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There was a poll out that had your numbers a little
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Unfavorable on your numbers. what do you attribute that to?
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I would say
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If everybody hated me, why is everybody
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Putting my face on their
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Mailers for the referendum would be, question number one.
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Well, don't ever out virginia.
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So creeps me out. here's the details on the poll.
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We have another site here for you, libby.
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So we to be fair, she's about 5050.
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All right.
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But when you compare it to past governors of virginia
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At this state, she's not doing so good.
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Okay.
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Sop 15 glenn youngkin had great approval ratings.
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But look at hers.
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She's three months in and her approval
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Rating is almost what it is for disapproval.
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About 50% like her and 50% don't like her.
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But if you compare that to to approval ratings for past
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Governors, nobody else, was where she was at this point
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And in their, candidacy or in their governorship.
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And so she was asked about this yesterday and she defended.
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She's she's not doing well because she ran as a moderate
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And she's gone full commie over in virginia.
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Your take libby evans.
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Yeah, she sure has.
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This is something i've talked to
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Some of our staffers at the post
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Millennial who live in virginia about this, and they say that
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They are so sick of all of this gerrymandering stuff
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That she had previously said that she would not back
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Gerrymandering in the state of virginia.
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And now she's going full force on that.
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They're also telling me
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That there have been a number of illegal immigrant
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Murders in the in the state, just since she's taken office.
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We saw
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An absolutely brutal murder in fairfax, virginia, of a mom
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Who was just at a bus stop and this psychopathic illegal
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Immigrant came off the bus and stabbed her to death.
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Absolutely. her horrifying.
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And these are people
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Who have no business in the country
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And in many cases, are people who have a criminal record
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In the state and should not be in the state.
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They should not be in the country,
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And they certainly shouldn't be going around stab women.
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There's also she's also reversed course,
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The cooperation of virginia police with ice.
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So that's an issue as well, especially when you consider
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These illegal immigrant murders.
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So i think people are
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Looking around and they're saying, well,
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You know,
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We elected this woman who said she was going to be a moderate
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And instead she is a far-left crazy progressive.
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And we're looking at a 5050.
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So while democrats, for the most part,
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Continue to support her,
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She's not making any inroads with republicans in the state.
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And that's going to be a problem.
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Well, and by the way, the mailers that her face,
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Is being plastered on, a lot of those are against
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The redistricting effort that they're leading.
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So we have to hit that.
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We're hitting this really hard,
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Because if you're in virginia, the final vote is next week.
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Next week, tuesday, i believe we get the results.
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Virginia's redistricting.
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They're trying to take it from pretty even house 6 to 10 one.
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They're trying to make it ten democrats, one republican
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This very easily could decide the house next fall.
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Either way, five seats is a ton.
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This matters a lot. and i know we lost that.
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Virginia's race wasn't super close last fall,
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But the polling shows this is very close.
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There have only been three polls on it.
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One is yes, up by eight.
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One is no up by eight.
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One is yes up by five.
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So right there.
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Not only that, if you get into the crosstabs
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The highest propensity voters are actually the most skeptical
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About it.
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The ones who have already voted
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Are the most likely to say no.
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I don't support this.
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And we are seeing evidence of higher turnout
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In the republican parts of the state.
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So this is a dead heat, as we like to say.
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If you haven't voted yet.
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Yeah, go, go vote right now.
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I don't know why you didn't listen the last two times
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We told you to do that, but do it now.
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And i think the last day is probably this saturday.
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If you don't do it by then, make sure you vote tuesday.
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This matters exactly.
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And this is a state that kamala took by six points.
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So it was this is a pretty close state, right.
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And so they had six five maps.
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They're going to try and go to ten one
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Maps, a total total disaster by the way.
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And it does have national implications.
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And what's
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Also infuriating about this, you said this, libby,
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That she ran against doing this.
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Now she's all in favor because they lie.
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And secondly, before this, they had a+ maps.
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They were rated a+ for being fair, okay,
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To the voting electorate.
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So, i mean, it's
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A bastardization of the
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Of the sort of special election
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Process which i think is getting,
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Litigated, but nevertheless, the vote is going forward.
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So vote, vote, vote vote vote.
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Yeah.
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Libby, you also, used to live in the city of new york.
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You have a special,
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Place in your heart for the city of new york.
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I think it's safe to say.
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And, mom, donnie is getting a dismal report card.
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New report out from the new york post.
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Mom, danny gets dismal report card from new yorkers
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After less than 100 days in office.
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What are you hearing?
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Yeah, so i was looking at this poll as well.
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He's got a 48% approval rating, which is substantially lower
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Than eric adams.
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It's more on par with bill de blasio's approval rating.
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And he was one of the worst mayors the city has ever seen,
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Ever, in the history of the city.
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And that's really saying something.
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He's got a 3,330% disapproval rating.
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Mamdani has, and as he's had his 100 days
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In office, it's been pretty,
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The far left ism has been really pretty rampant.
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And also, he's been breaking some campaign promises.
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He's already walking back the free busses things
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Because it turns out, golly gee, it's not that affordable.
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Who would have known that?
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I don't know, perhaps the entire city knew that.
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And then they elected him for it anyway,
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They got on board, so he's trying to walk that back.
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He's also proposing some plans based on some equity reporting
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That went into that was, conducted after george floyd.
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This was put into place 2022 by the city council.
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Hey, let's get on board with some of this blm equity stuff.
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And he's noticed that there are racial disparities
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In terms of income and various
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Other things, housing in the city.
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And he's decided that this is all based on prejudice
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And racism, not choices that people make.
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So that's, something that people are looking at now.
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He's complaining that white households earn something
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Like 200,000 average black households, around 20,000.
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We have he's claiming that this is all racism.
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And this is a study where
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Everybody, all 45 agencies of the city,
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Had to look at practices and policies
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Through the lens of critical race theory.
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The idea was go look for racism.
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And if you're going to put on glasses
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That are covered with racism,
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That's all you're going to find.
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Well, surprise, surprise, we have two examples of far
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Left governance that are not it's not popular
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Because it doesn't work. surprise, surprise.
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Because it doesn't work. surprise, surprise.
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Final segment of the day.
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We are with libby evans
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From the post millennial and human events.
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Want you guys to check out the both of those.
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They do great work.
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And obviously,
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Jack posobiec show that is on right after hours.
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Human events daily with jack sobek.
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All right, blake, you got a story on the pope
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That everybody's talking about.
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Jd vance is getting asked about it.
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Yeah, it's it's just interesting.
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I'm not entirely sure how to react to it.
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This is a reporting from the free press.
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That's barry weiss, his outfit that supposedly the pentagon,
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Supposedly the pentagon and one of our officials
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There, elbridge colby, summoned cardinal christophe pierre,
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Who's the vatican's ambassador to the united states,
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For a meeting in january.
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And this is in the
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Wording of the free press that he told
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That he told this cardinal that the united states
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Has the military power to do, quote,
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Whatever it wants and that the pope,
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The american pope, leo, had, quote, better take its side.
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And supposedly in this confrontation in the
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Us went so far as to invoke the avignon papacy.
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And that raises my eyebrow.
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That sounds a little unlikely to me, to be frank,
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For the 99% of you who have no idea what that's
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A reference to.
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In the 1300s, the king of france forcibly
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Relocated the pope to a town in france called avignon.
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And that's where the pope was instead of rome.
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For a little under 100 years.
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And for a period there were even two popes.
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There was a pope in avignon and a pope in rome.
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Very complicated business.
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It was very important 700 years ago.
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It all sounds very unlikely to me.
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Well, but yes, so a spokesman for the department of defense
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Told, newsweek that the, free press's
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Characterization of the meeting was highly exaggerated
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And distorted. distorted.
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The meeting between pentagon and vatican officials
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Was a respectful
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And reasonable discussion, the spokesman said.
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We have nothing but the highest regard
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And welcomed continued dialog with the holy see.
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Yeah. now, we should be frank.
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There has been a lot of friction
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Between the new papacy and the admin.
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I'll be frank, i think the pope has been
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A little annoying with his rhetoric on
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Migration and immigration and stuff like that.
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I it bothers me because i just,
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I don't think it really
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Is in line
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With traditional christian views on things like that.
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And it's annoying.
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You used to have the pope would say things that are annoying.
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You go, oh, well, he said it in italian
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And it's getting translated weird.
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Now we have this pope from chicago
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And he just says stuff and it sounds like
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A lib commentator on msn now,
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And you're just it's frustrating and annoying.
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That said,
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I also don't think
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You want to be picking fights with the vatican.
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They are institution with a long legacy,
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A lot of moral legitimacy.
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We don't need to spar with them either.
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We can respectfully disagree with them.
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That's what i hope anyway.
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Libby.
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Yeah, i mean, i think that it's i think it's been interesting
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To see the pope.
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This is the first american pope. i'm catholic.
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So full disclosure there.
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Fun fact about the avignon papacy.
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I believe that that's where we got the wine.
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The chateauneuf de pop that came from the avignon papacy.
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But, yeah, i've been following leo on x coming out all of
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The time, speaking against war, speaking in favor
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Of being nice to migrants and and to a certain regard.
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I really respect what he's doing.
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He's saying no war.
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That's really a pretty catholic perspective at this point.
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No war.
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Be nice to migrants. that's you know,
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Of course we should be kind to these people.
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And this is, of course, not the first time
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That a religious leader like the pope,
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A religious catholic leader, has come into conflict
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With the big military powers of the world.
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It kind of speaks to a certain sense of balance.
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And it makes sense.
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I mean, the papacy is not here to back
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The american government. that's not what it's for.
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It's supposed to guide catholics in their view.
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So that's i think that's what matters here
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Is the speaking to catholics about how they should behave.
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Should catholics be in favor of war?
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Probably not.
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But that doesn't mean that you don't back
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Your united states come hell or high water no matter what.
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And i'm frankly very comfortable
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With that, you know, potential contradiction.
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And the same thing is true with the migration.
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I think that it makes a lot of sense
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To be kind to migrants, to be kind to people
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Who are intent on leaving their own nations.
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But that doesn't mean they have to come to the united states.
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There is a separation there certainly, between faith in
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Jesus christ and what you think is best for your nation.
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They're not always
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Going to necessarily be the same thing, right?
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I mean,
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I don't think that we should let our nation be overrun,
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Because that would certainly get in the way of faith
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And expressing faith and all of that stuff, too.
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So there has to be a balance.
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But i think leo is doing what
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He thinks is the right thing to do.
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I think america is doing what america thinks
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Is the
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Right thing to do, and it's
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Okay if those two things are not always aligned.
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I'm perfectly comfortable with that.
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There's this push that's been made to
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Frame the pentagon under pete hegseth, who is a protestant,
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As actively anti-catholic in some capacity.
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There was a story
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That they had a good friday service on good friday,
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And that they sent out a notice where it said
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Protestant service, no catholic mass.
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And this was hyped up by a lot of people
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As them actively rooting for some good friday.
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Yeah, it was ridiculous that you literally
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Do not have a mass on good friday.
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We just don't do that.
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Yeah, it's the only day of the year.
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I actually went to a service on good friday.
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You still have the eucharist because they'll
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Prepared in advance, but they just distribute it.
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They don't do the whole wait, you just said they don't.
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They don't have a service, but you went to one.
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Well,
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So we have a service
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We don't have like a specific good friday mass.
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I mean, there's mass every day
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Show be your church at like eight in the morning. god
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It's important sacrament stuff.
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Yeah, yeah. got it.
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I listen, i'm a cradle catholic, but
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I'm obviously a little rusty on some of the particulars,
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But i can guarantee you
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That pete headset has nothing but love for the catholic
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Church and catholics serving in the military.
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But it it's something
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We actually talked about with michael knowles.
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It does feel like there is some sort of effort to drive
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A wedge between catholics and protestants
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And evangelicals specifically in this country.
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I don't know where that's
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Coming from exactly, but i don't feel it
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Innately myself.
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It just feels like there's forces
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That are trying to drive a wedge between
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Catholics and protestants.
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And i, i genuinely i don't resonate with it at all.
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Well,
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What i would say is catholics and evangelicals and different
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Brands of protestant,
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They have different beliefs about christianity,
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And we shouldn't ignore those things.
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I think if you go too far on mannerism, you miss that.
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You kind of end up imagining that doctrine isn't important
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And that, oh, it's just we're all kind of
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Some of us just like ceremony a bit more than others.
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And it is more than that that's going on.
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Getting back to the big picture,
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I think it's pretty
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It seems pretty obvious there's going to be friction
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Between this admin and the pope.
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The pope might bash the president a bit.
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I would say in contrast to most world leaders,
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The president probably shouldn't bash the pope back.
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He's just it's not a fight that's worth
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Picking out where that there's there's a good exchange.
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I remember, i think there was a tech leader who was making
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Fun of the pope, and a guy just said, don't mock the pope.
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Don't mock the pope.
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And if they did say something about
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We have military power,
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I find it unlikely that this administration did that.
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But i do remember the supposed line by joseph stalin.
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How many divisions does the pope have?
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And then
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The church played a big role in bringing down communism
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In eastern europe.
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You just.
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Well, but my point is, i'm not saying the doctrinal
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Doctrinal issues don't matter.
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They certainly can and do sometimes.
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But in general,
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We have way more in common than we do that separates us.
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Namely jesus christ. yes, is our lord.
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And so yes.
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So. amen.
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Libby evans, thank you for joining us.
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The post millennial and human events.
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Thanks for making the time, libb
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Libby Emmons: April 10, 2026 | Charlie Kirk Today

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